@@MercenaryPen Wasn't this eventually downgraded to a people mover to get from the platforms to the bus stop ? I think it was heavily delayed due to the inability to find level access at both ends.
Hello Geoff Loving the end of line videos. We just arrived in London today from Canada and we did your Hatton Cross airport hack of tapping out and back in. We added three more tube stations used to 85 during our trips here. I take a picture of the roundel to every station we get off or on at. The purple train is on our to do lists. Every time we mention say purple train we say as if we are singing it with you on opening day. As we are staying right beside Battersea power station it is one of the new roundels added today. That station opened on the day we left London on our last visit. Thanks for the great videos. Take Care Chris and Sandra of Canada.
There is a Stanmore in Sydney. Also in relation to this 'end of the line series' - there are two Epping stations in Australia (one in Sydney and one in Melbourne). Epping in Sydney is rather large and unique with platforms built underneath the station to allow the new metro driverless trains to be built and functioned as a terminus for the new Macquarie Line (until the extension was built out further in the north west region)
Indeed there were plans early on to extend the Metropolitan line north of Stanmore. It's why the station is built like Edgware with the potential of extending the tracks under it. For anyone who is interested, there is information about this in "Beyond Edgware by Tube" by Tony Beard, pp.21-22. Btw: there are also some interesting modern houses in Kerry Avenue, including one by Reginald Uren, who designed a number of London Underground stations.
Watford is the same. Built with an option. To extend under the road. There was a LT Bus garage opposite Watford on land bought in preparation. That was sold for housing. So maybe that car park at Stanmore will also end up as housing. The 152 bus that links Stanmore and Watford is one of the oldest routes, originally started before WW1 by the LNWR.
@@quantisedspace7047 Not strictly true. He could use the wonderful black and white dots, dashes and squiggly bits used in pocket diaries of old and other publications when colour printing was deemed too expensive. Great idea though but might need a bit of an artist to do it. As an epilogue to this epistle, here's a tube challenge for our host: Not wishing to get too big headed, but I went through my own 'mid-life crisis' in my twenties and had a map of the globe on my head, ice cap and all. The small matter of a few colourful lines should be a fun thing to do on a wet weekend afternoon.
Coming from outside of London, Stanmore is amazing, Drive down to London, park up at Stanmore, and straight into central London, concerts or a good day out, you name it, perfect start for it all!
Stanmore area is very suburby and nice (if you avoid going further into Harrow or Edgware along the main roads). Next to my old high school at Bentley Wood there’s a really nice woodland! I remember we went there for Geography where our teacher showed us the oldest tree in Middlesex?
My mum uses crutches so the stair and the ‘pathway’ (even though there still are stairs required) situation are so inconvenient for her and can be painful :( I hope they add a lift soon! Harrow-on-the-hill has brand new lifts, you know!
I know in total they’ve done a fair bit over the last 10 years, but the accessibility upgrades are nevertheless so frustratingly slow. I’d love it if they were better funded (of course, basically nothing is properly funded in the country at the moment…), I’m sure everything could’ve gotten done in 10 years if they had much more money to hire more people and equipment to do the work.
Agree. I was a patient at the nearby National Orthopaedic hospital and when you are on crutches and in plaster, that ridiculous step free journey is no joke, particularly the last bit which Geoff didn't show us, which is the slope up from the car park to street level where I used to catch the hospital bus 😒
I approve of what the Berlin underground map did in this regard, having two different symbols for "fully accessible" and "ramp available" - because while a ramp might technically grant access, it's just not an option for anyone with decreased mobility but without the advantage of being on wheels, due to just how _long_ the paths become. Marking all stations where you can avoid steps the same way is frustratingly misleading. Though in the long run full accessibility at all stations is of course the only acceptable goal.
Spent 6 months in a wheelchair in the 60's and no easy access back then, used the train to and from school with both stations atop embankments meaning many stairs up to either the station or platform level. Had to phone ahead from home or school to both statons to inform of arrival or the train I would be on so that staff were available to carry me in the chair up and down the stairs and to push the chair in and out of the train baggage van, the only wheelchair accessible part of a train. At school two burly prefects carried me up and down the stairs, the girls staircase as wider than the boys, one of whom put me in the wheelchair to start with by an illegal tackle playing Rugby. Everything was segregated, the girls sat on one side of the class boys the other and separate playgrounds and entrances. Being in the chair meant I sat in a corner at the front as the isles between desks were too narrow for the chair. A big relief to finally get out and onto crutches for another 3 months, no more Rugby though.
0:33 You are absolutely correct Geoff, there is a Stanmore Station in Sydney. Located on the T2 Inner West & Leppington line, it serves the suburb of Stanmore and gets a train roughly every 15 minutes to both the City Circle and Parramatta. Stanmore has 6 tracks, however, only three of them have a platform (one island and a side platform), however, only the side platform and one side of the island platform is used for trains, and the other (Platform 1) hasn't been used since the early 1980s (in my 34 years of living in Sydney, I don't think I've ever seen a train stop at Platform 1, a bit like Mudchute).
Also, the suburb of Stanmore and train station was named after the 1st Earl of Stanmore. Secondly, there is a major road called Stanmore road that is linked to Edgeware Road in Enmore. Finally, there is also a Cannon street in Stanmore.
Hi Geoff, from Sydney! Stanmore station is 4 stops from Central on the T2 line (north/west) and has been my local station for 43 years. It's a lovely old station, built in the late 19th century. Cheers!
Sydneysider here - Stanmore definitely exists and is on the train network. It's between Redfern and Strathfield, two of the main interchanges in the area, on the main suburban line - only Inner West Line "all stops" type services tend to stop there; platform 1 is mostly unused according to most schedules, with only 2 and 3 serving most services, despite at least 6 lines running through the area. Apparently the buildings are heritage listed too. The more you know.
There is indeed a Stanmore Station in Sydney, on the T2 line. I went through it a few days ago on my way to visit a friend who lives near Petersham Station. A few stops after Sydney Central was Stanmore, then Petersham, and if I'd stayed on the train the next stop would have been Lewisham and, three stops after that, Croydon. It's a bit disorienting for someone like me who grew up in the London suburbs.
Sydney's Stanmore station is older than the Underground one. It was opened in 1879 and the main building is a lovely Victorian era one from 1886 which would fit into London very well.
Yes, Stanmore is an inner west suburban station in Sydney. It sits on the main line west from Sydney (well, there isn't one to the east!) although those trains don't stop at Stanmore; the station serves the commuter line from the city centre to Parramatta and Leppington. The Sydney suburb of Stanmore was owned and named by a settler who came from the original London Stanmore.
As I live in Leicestershire, I find Stanmore station car park very handy. When stopping over in London I always leave the car there (I avoid it when there is an event on at Wembley!). The parking is very good value for money, so I would consider it a great loss if the car park was sold off for housing. One other point: the station has toilets between platform one and two, however the stench of ammonia from the gents is absolutely appalling- the smell could knock an ox out. TFL: if you are going to fit water free urinals then you need to maintain them.
I know Stanmore - when travelling from the north to a game at Wembley, it’s perfect for parking - straight off the M1, on to the tube, straight to Wembley Park :-D
Wood Farm Country Park is a former farm that was ceded as a park. A lot of the buildings were demolished when it became the park. My understanding is this was a condition of approval of planning for the development of ultra posh, ultra expensive faux-farm houses in one corner of the wood farm site opposite the entrance to Stanmore Orthopoeadic hospital/Aspire.
Great video Geoff, as a train enthusiast from Sydney, Australia, I can confirm that we do have a Stanmore as well located in the Inner West of Sydney. :)
Lived in Harrow Weald for many years in my youth, used Stanmore tube quite often as a route into work (a long one, but could walk it from home). No disability access ramps when I last used it!
Yes Geoff, Stanmore is on Sydney Trains' T2 Inner West & Leppington Line served by trains between City Circle and Homebush as well as Parramatta (Weekdays only) via Strathfield
I spent a night at Stanmore Station testing out the CCTV system used by the drivers on the Jubilee line to check everyone is clear of the doors. We moved a train in and out of the station many times during the night one weekend. The report is available on line still I think.
Stanmore, New South Wales - 4.67 km from Sydney. Opened in 1878. (The line it's on opened 26 Sep 1855, duplicated 1 Jun 1856, quad 18 Mar 1892, sextuple 28 May 1928, electified 27 Apr 1928.) Three pairs of tracks: Local (southmost) - Suburban - Main. Platforms: № 3: down side of down Local, and island № 2 and № 1 between up up Local and down Suburban (№ 1 not in use). Accounting number for the station is 6. Many, many trains pass through Stanmore every day, but only the Local line trains stop.
The excursion into the country park showed how you can sometimes quickly get from the outskirts to some sort of open countryside beyond the sprawl of London. The view from the top proved that you were still in the metropolis though.
From the 1934 LT Engineering Committee: Metropolitan Line (Stanmore Branch) - Proposed Extension Mr. Cooper submitted a memorandum, reporting that the proposed extension of the Stanmore Line to join the projected route of the Edgware Extension just south of Elstree Station would have to be run in tunnel as shown previously. The scheme was noted as feasible, and it was decided that selling any of the property under which this extension might pass, the Estate Agents reserve easements in general terms without disclosing any definite proposal or line of route.
As a Sydney resident and train enthusiasts I can confirm that there is a Stanmore in the inner west of Sydney on the T2 and T3 lines of Sydney trains network
As Steve Shahbazian commented earlier, there was a plan to extend the line beyond Stanmore. This is very much my "local manor" and my daughter and l had a walk during the pandemic from our house next to Canons Park Station, up through the Country Park, past the view point and then across Stanmore Hill, into Priory Drive and down through the Bentley Priory Open Space, back down the hill into Stanmore and home (about 5 miles). I looked into the possible plans for an extension a couple of years ago when we used to do the walk a lot because the layout of Kerry Avenue just screams line extension, especially the big grid of manhole covers at the top of the hill next to the gate into the Country Park at the top of Kerry Avenue which you featured in your video I would love to go up there with a set of heavy duty manhole cover lifters and take a look at what's under there. I now can't find the email I received from someone with an old map of an idea which never attained the status of an official plan.
Hello Geoff, yes there is a Stanmore Station in Sydney. There is also an Epping Station in Melbourne and Sydney. I could continue, but I think you get my point! 🙂
Hello Geoff I’m in Melbourne, but I have looked up, you are correct. There is a station in Sydney named stanmore. In Melbourne we have a Richmond, Bayswater, Epping, South Kensington, Mitcham and Stratford.
An excellent video! I often visit Stanmore Station on my way, too, and from the Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital. I was told that had the Northern Heights actually been completed, it would have connected with the Stanmore branch that would have been extended to Brockley Hill Station. Also it was good to briefly meet you amongst the second hand books on the Friday of the last Open Day.
Hi Geoff. I can tell you, there were two early plans by the LPTB, to POSSIBLY extend beyond Stanmore. One was to initially Elstree South, meeting up with the Northern Line trains from Edgware. This would then have seen Metropolitan line services (as it was that line that served Stanmore in 1934), continue to Aldenham or Bushey. This would've complimented the northern heights plan. In 1936, another plan would've seen Met trains continue north of Stanmore to Elstree, on a different alignment, but meeting up with Northern line trains at Elstree, as District and Central line trains do at Ealing Broadway. Both plans needed a tunnel north of Stanmore, the first needing a 1.2 mile long double track tunnel, the second a 500m long tunnel. Neither plan was included in the LPTB new works programme, and so never proceeded with, but Stanmore was designed to allow a northwards extension id so desired.
This station is the one that we used for family trips in to London when I was a kid. So this is a nostalgic video for me! Been looking forward to this one.
Stanmore Station in Sydney - Yep. Just down the road from where I live. There's a great little shop right next door that does the best hamburgers in the area. Win Win !!
Stanmore is my ‘local’ tube station. I use it most times I visit London - it may not technically be the closest tube station to my house but it is the easiest to get to - I live in Wolverhampton and the station is about five minutes off the M1 - TFL, please don’t sell off the car park for housing!
Being an orthopaedic surgeon, and having been to Stanmore where the Royal national Orthopaedic Hospital ( RNOH), the premier orthopaedic centre in UK is located, I feel it's ironic that there isn't a lift, considering that thousands of patients with mobility issues come there from around the world!
In more than a decade of residence near Sydney and frequent rail use, I must have passed Stanmore on hundreds of occasions (albeit almost exclusively on expresses tearing past on separate tracks) and, despite noticing and still remembering it today, I'm not sure it ever occurred to me that it had a namesake on the LU. Unlike Epping... Also, for vinyl enthusiasts, Stanmore = "Tone Arms"?
Most place names in Australia can be put into 3 categories 1. Places in Europe (and especially Britain) 2. European explorers and their backers. 3. Aboriginal Names.
As per my previous comments on Edgware, you might garner I live locally! Edgware and Stanmore are actually near each other (indeed, historically Edgware part of Greater Stanmore). So a few interesting items. Yes, the Metropolitan did want to go beyond Stanmore, hence why it resembles a through station. The ultimate destination was Watford (it would have meant that the Metropolitan would have gone to Watford Junction via Stanmore and via Croxley Green), as was the GNR at Edgware (the rights passed to London Transport, and hence, the Northern Heights scheme), and at High (or as the locals say, Chipping) Barnet, onwards to Potters Bar. The Canons Estate runs from where Canons Park station is to where Stanmore station is, yes the Duke of Chandos had a huge estate! The only remaining part are the gates at the entrance at Canons Drive (Edgware). In fact, London Road, that Stanmore station sits on was a diversion road, so the road from Stanmore to Edgware bypassed his estate. Now that's serious political and financial clout. A small error. Canons Park station opened later, it wasn't there initially. From the Wood Farm viewing point one can also see across all of central London, and quite clearly the spire of Harrow on the Hill. Great place. Also, by it, is a Roman settlement (or rather, the remains thereof). Did Stanmore station kill Stanmore Village station? I'd disput that. The station was never popular, and had a reverse curve to London, basically being a line to Harrow & Wealdstone. You can still walk and see much of it. The curve sat where an industrial estate now sits, afterwards a nice walk to Belmont, and thence onwards to Stanmore Village (the station is now a private house). Also, Stanmore Village station was on the far side of Stanmore from Stanmore Tube, so a quite a distance betwixt the two. BTW, did you see the 142 bus outside? Quite an old bus route from Watford Junction to Brent Cross, although re-routed within Edgware. Basically, from the old Roman Road, London Road split in Stanmore, with one arm to Uxbridge, and the other to Watford and beyond to Birmingham! Stanmore has some wonderful ancient buildings, worth looking at.
You may well realise that it's really quite normal for roads to screech to a halt, turn sharp left, then right, right and left again. There's usually a Lodge or two on the right, a high wall, or if you're lucky some Estate Fencing and Deer beyond. Occasionally you get a chance to see the big 'ouse too. Anywhere around this lime green at the moment country can you experience this, but especially in the South West. The longest brick wall around an Estate is indeed in Dorset. It was always a marker for me on the way to Grandma's house.
I used to deal with a company in Stanmore. I discovered that Bletchley had a youth hostel and was within cycling distance of Stanmore. I arrange with the Co. to visit them as it would be a good excuse to skive off to visit Bletchley Park too. Happy thought but never came to pass.
Hello Geoff, You faded the Belmont Rattler just a little early at 1:12. Whilst the passenger service between Belmont & Stanmore Village was withdrawn on 15 September 1952, trains continued to run between Harrow & Wealdstone & Belmont until 5th October 1964. From 1954 to 1956, I was a train-spotter at H & W, the memory of which prompted me to bunk off from school & take one return trip to Belmont, sometime in summer 1957. A wheezy tank engine provided the motive power for 2 carriages of compartment stock. I had a compartment to myself. IIRC, only 4 passengers including me, alighted at Belmont & the same number made the return journey. I collected my bicycle at H & W, station & cycled home to Pinner. For the next 2 years, on summer term Wednesday sports afternoons at Byron recreation ground, I would pause at the crease & watch from the train trundle past Wealdstone cemetery. Used to disconcert the bowler no end!
I have been told by a friend from London that the exposed part of the station is a notorious sun trap in hot weather. So, I suppose you could go there to get more tans.....😉
Me and my Dad have used Stanmore Station a number of times to get to Wembley Stsdium for the NFL after driving from Durham to get to Stanmore and then take the Underground line to Wembley Park, the trains go past Barnet FC's stadium as well
All those steps - no wonder I never put on any weight. 1960 to 1965 I went to school in Elstree via a school bus from Stanmore, after a 140 bus from Northolt and then a Bakerloo line train from Queensbury to Stanmore. If you missed the school bus, despite one waiting for latecomers, you were very late for school!
You were quite near to an area where there was a quite severe ground collapse, under both tracks at Canons Park towards Queensbury in 2011. The northbound wasn't as bad as the southbound. I worked in this area every night for over two years doing amber survey works (track geometry surveys). The ground there has since been reinforced, via embankment strengthening works. You can still see how bad it was when you leave Canons Park on the southbound, when you look out of the window at the cable run. You can clearly see how low it is compared to the track, plus the raises and dips indicate how much the track dropped. Considering the cable runs are normally quite high up and very level. It is definitely worth a look. I am really enjoying the end of the line series, as I have worked at all of these locations in my 25+ years on the underground.
Hi Geoff - love the videos. I'd love it if you could do a video or two about what's going on at Oxford, both in terms of the planned station upgrade and the unplanned bridge repairs!
Hi Geoff from Spain. As I have mentioned before, I first went to Stanmore back in October 1957 when I went to the Met Office training school which was just a short walk from the station. Buying a newspaper from the paper shop, I found out that the Russians had launched Sputnik !, the first ever artificial satellite. To me Stanmore was and always will be the end of the Bakerloo line. No need for a waiting room? We used to walk along the platform, most got into the train and the last one in pressed the external 'Close Doors' button on the end of the carriage and hopped inside during the slight delay.
Some really nice walking in the area, as the green belt basically starts after Stanmore. I imagine a lot of people just outside London drive to the station car park to travel into London.
Its nice the way that the metropolitan built their terminus stations in a more domestic style! Theres another station they built on a proposed extension which i cant remember, which reverted to shop use, no-one would ever have suspected it of wanting to be a station!
It's uncanny how many End of the Line stations have specific relevance to my life... I live in Watford... I go through Harrow and Wealdstone most evenings (and worked at Woolworths stores in both Harrow AND Wealdstone)... I work in Uxbridge.... I used to drive past Cockfosters station on a regular basis... and when my family first moved to the Watford area we lived in Bushey Heath and Stanmore was our local station and route into London! I guess I'm an end of the line kind of guy!
Oh dear. I think that you're one of those suburban people one hears about occasionally. I'm joking, I'm joking! You, lucky bugger, get the fresh air, I get the particulates and perverts puking and peeing on my street. Swings and Hanger Lane Gyratories I s'pose.
Hi Geoff, I was in Sydney for a few years and yes there is a Stanmore station (although it’s; spelt different?…(?) IDK) I used to catch trains there regularly. But I would never use it as a direct route. It’s best used ( at least in my case) in conjunction with other transport modes as it’s not really useful; Sydney’s hilly (& from memory it was mainly this issue that made it not so useful for people like me but very useful for other people: I found that in the inner west it became in the way for everyone doing stuff on Leichhardt/Balmain peninsula ( from memory again! (Sorry!)) as it’s a little away from all the usefulness around there. I hope this helps? 😢 IDK
Lol. The step free access is ridiculous. It takes you to the car park , with a lot of ramps, and away from the main road and bus stops (and to exit the car park on foot is a significant incline). Hugely inconvenient. As a mum with a buggy, I would bump the buggy down the main steps of the station and hope someone would help me carry the buggy back up when exiting.
Hi Geoff, great video but as others have pointed out, not having proper step-free access at Stanmore is even more of an issue because it’s the nearest station to the Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital so many people in wheelchairs or who can’t walk well use it - and there is also no TFL bus up the hill - it’s further on from the viewpoint you went to! I work at Aspire which has one of the few 100% accessible leisure centres in the country and is on the site of the RNOH and another reason more suitable step-free access is needed at Stanmore.
I am sure Belmont Station stayed open much later since I lived in Harrow & Wealdstone area and went to what was then Harrow Weald Grammar School in the late 50’s/early 60’s. If I recall correctly, the number 18 bus took you past Belmont Circus and the station.
Unfortunately, the proposed Stanmore Platforms & Stanmore Entrance Railway was axed in 1941 due to wartime economies.
but what about the proposed Stanmore Waiting Room and Stanmore Car Park Joint railway which failed to get parliamentary approval in the 1870s?
@@MercenaryPen Wasn't this eventually downgraded to a people mover to get from the platforms to the bus stop ? I think it was heavily delayed due to the inability to find level access at both ends.
Charles Yerkes?
Bit like the Blackpool Town Car Park to Pleasure Beach Cable Car plan.
Except this one's real!
As an old Stanmore resident, I confirm no one uses that waiting room 😂
i have a picture that contradicts this
I have
I seriously made out with a fellow railway nerd in that waiting room!
@@crapmalls Well at least someone appreciates being able to sit somewhere out of the wind and rain so it is not a complete waste.
@@nomadMik that’s a sentence I never expected to see
Hello Geoff
Loving the end of line videos. We just arrived in London today from Canada and we did your Hatton Cross airport hack of tapping out and back in. We added three more tube stations used to 85 during our trips here. I take a picture of the roundel to every station we get off or on at. The purple train is on our to do lists. Every time we mention say purple train we say as if we are singing it with you on opening day. As we are staying right beside Battersea power station it is one of the new roundels added today. That station opened on the day we left London on our last visit. Thanks for the great videos. Take Care Chris and Sandra of Canada.
This is so heartwarming to hear this ! ❤️
There is a Stanmore in Sydney. Also in relation to this 'end of the line series' - there are two Epping stations in Australia (one in Sydney and one in Melbourne). Epping in Sydney is rather large and unique with platforms built underneath the station to allow the new metro driverless trains to be built and functioned as a terminus for the new Macquarie Line (until the extension was built out further in the north west region)
As a northerner, Stanmore is my park and ride for getting into London, I’ve been waiting for this episode! 😄
Indeed there were plans early on to extend the Metropolitan line north of Stanmore. It's why the station is built like Edgware with the potential of extending the tracks under it. For anyone who is interested, there is information about this in "Beyond Edgware by Tube" by Tony Beard, pp.21-22. Btw: there are also some interesting modern houses in Kerry Avenue, including one by Reginald Uren, who designed a number of London Underground stations.
Just mentioned that, two early plans, one to meet up with the Northern at Elstree South, the other to meet in central Elstree.
Watford is the same. Built with an option. To extend under the road. There was a LT Bus garage opposite Watford on land bought in preparation. That was sold for housing. So maybe that car park at Stanmore will also end up as housing. The 152 bus that links Stanmore and Watford is one of the oldest routes, originally started before WW1 by the LNWR.
Petition for Geoff to use temporary dye on his blonde strip to make it the colour of whatever tube line he’s talking about in the video
This means he won't be able to do anything regarding the Northern Line
@@quantisedspace7047 that’s very true but I’d still love to see him do it for the others
@@quantisedspace7047 Not strictly true. He could use the wonderful black and white dots, dashes and squiggly bits used in pocket diaries of old and other publications when colour printing was deemed too expensive.
Great idea though but might need a bit of an artist to do it.
As an epilogue to this epistle, here's a tube challenge for our host:
Not wishing to get too big headed, but I went through my own 'mid-life crisis' in my twenties and had a map of the globe on my head, ice cap and all.
The small matter of a few colourful lines should be a fun thing to do on a wet weekend afternoon.
YES YES YES! Sign me up!👍
he's in a midlife crisis
Coming from outside of London, Stanmore is amazing, Drive down to London, park up at Stanmore, and straight into central London, concerts or a good day out, you name it, perfect start for it all!
Stanmore area is very suburby and nice (if you avoid going further into Harrow or Edgware along the main roads). Next to my old high school at Bentley Wood there’s a really nice woodland! I remember we went there for Geography where our teacher showed us the oldest tree in Middlesex?
As someone who used to live in Stanmore, I agree 100% on that.
Bentley Priory or the Harrow Weald Common?
Its the master oak on Bentley priory. Still there to this day.
Ooohhh the horror stories that would come out of that girls school…
@@quintuscrinis bentley priory!
The sound of the train at the end after the litter bin count gives me such a throwback to when I lived in Stanmore
My mum uses crutches so the stair and the ‘pathway’ (even though there still are stairs required) situation are so inconvenient for her and can be painful :( I hope they add a lift soon! Harrow-on-the-hill has brand new lifts, you know!
I know in total they’ve done a fair bit over the last 10 years, but the accessibility upgrades are nevertheless so frustratingly slow.
I’d love it if they were better funded (of course, basically nothing is properly funded in the country at the moment…), I’m sure everything could’ve gotten done in 10 years if they had much more money to hire more people and equipment to do the work.
Agree. I was a patient at the nearby National Orthopaedic hospital and when you are on crutches and in plaster, that ridiculous step free journey is no joke, particularly the last bit which Geoff didn't show us, which is the slope up from the car park to street level where I used to catch the hospital bus 😒
They did try to ge lifts installed with the new housing development, but it got blocked.
I approve of what the Berlin underground map did in this regard, having two different symbols for "fully accessible" and "ramp available" - because while a ramp might technically grant access, it's just not an option for anyone with decreased mobility but without the advantage of being on wheels, due to just how _long_ the paths become. Marking all stations where you can avoid steps the same way is frustratingly misleading.
Though in the long run full accessibility at all stations is of course the only acceptable goal.
Spent 6 months in a wheelchair in the 60's and no easy access back then, used the train to and from school with both stations atop embankments meaning many stairs up to either the station or platform level. Had to phone ahead from home or school to both statons to inform of arrival or the train I would be on so that staff were available to carry me in the chair up and down the stairs and to push the chair in and out of the train baggage van, the only wheelchair accessible part of a train. At school two burly prefects carried me up and down the stairs, the girls staircase as wider than the boys, one of whom put me in the wheelchair to start with by an illegal tackle playing Rugby. Everything was segregated, the girls sat on one side of the class boys the other and separate playgrounds and entrances. Being in the chair meant I sat in a corner at the front as the isles between desks were too narrow for the chair. A big relief to finally get out and onto crutches for another 3 months, no more Rugby though.
I used to use Stanmore all the time when I lived in Watford. I miss it so much. The sound of the Jubilee 95 stock pulling away is so nostalgic
It's actually 96 stock but that sound is from the AC motors. The 96 stock was the first on the Underground to use AC motors.
Yes, there is a Stanmore station in Sydney. It’s on the T2 Inner West Line. We also have a Richmond station at the end of the T1 Richmond branch line.
0:33 You are absolutely correct Geoff, there is a Stanmore Station in Sydney. Located on the T2 Inner West & Leppington line, it serves the suburb of Stanmore and gets a train roughly every 15 minutes to both the City Circle and Parramatta. Stanmore has 6 tracks, however, only three of them have a platform (one island and a side platform), however, only the side platform and one side of the island platform is used for trains, and the other (Platform 1) hasn't been used since the early 1980s (in my 34 years of living in Sydney, I don't think I've ever seen a train stop at Platform 1, a bit like Mudchute).
When the T2 line is having trackwork they've been known to use Platform 1 for trains heading west. Same thing with Summer Hill.
Also, the suburb of Stanmore and train station was named after the 1st Earl of Stanmore. Secondly, there is a major road called Stanmore road that is linked to Edgeware Road in Enmore. Finally, there is also a Cannon street in Stanmore.
Hi Geoff, from Sydney! Stanmore station is 4 stops from Central on the T2 line (north/west) and has been my local station for 43 years. It's a lovely old station, built in the late 19th century. Cheers!
Sydneysider here - Stanmore definitely exists and is on the train network. It's between Redfern and Strathfield, two of the main interchanges in the area, on the main suburban line - only Inner West Line "all stops" type services tend to stop there; platform 1 is mostly unused according to most schedules, with only 2 and 3 serving most services, despite at least 6 lines running through the area. Apparently the buildings are heritage listed too. The more you know.
There is indeed a Stanmore Station in Sydney, on the T2 line. I went through it a few days ago on my way to visit a friend who lives near Petersham Station. A few stops after Sydney Central was Stanmore, then Petersham, and if I'd stayed on the train the next stop would have been Lewisham and, three stops after that, Croydon. It's a bit disorienting for someone like me who grew up in the London suburbs.
Yes, Stanmore is in between Newtown and Petersham on the Inner West and South line in Sydney Australia.
I liked the "Geoff reflected in the puddle" shot! But what a palaver to get to the car park!
good shot isnt it? Reminding us he DOES turn round to check on his camera!
It's really not that far - Geoff was messing around!
Sydney's Stanmore station is older than the Underground one. It was opened in 1879 and the main building is a lovely Victorian era one from 1886 which would fit into London very well.
Why are there so many Aussies in this video talking about Sydney's Stanmore?
Yes, Stanmore is an inner west suburban station in Sydney. It sits on the main line west from Sydney (well, there isn't one to the east!) although those trains don't stop at Stanmore; the station serves the commuter line from the city centre to Parramatta and Leppington. The Sydney suburb of Stanmore was owned and named by a settler who came from the original London Stanmore.
As I live in Leicestershire, I find Stanmore station car park very handy. When stopping over in London I always leave the car there (I avoid it when there is an event on at Wembley!). The parking is very good value for money, so I would consider it a great loss if the car park was sold off for housing. One other point: the station has toilets between platform one and two, however the stench of ammonia from the gents is absolutely appalling- the smell could knock an ox out. TFL: if you are going to fit water free urinals then you need to maintain them.
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I’m sorry you have to go through it, I hope everything goes well
Get well soon
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That’s very kind of you to say Chris, thanks. Wishing you all the best for recovery! 👍
@@geofftech2 thank you 🙏
I know Stanmore - when travelling from the north to a game at Wembley, it’s perfect for parking - straight off the M1, on to the tube, straight to Wembley Park :-D
Wood Farm Country Park is a former farm that was ceded as a park. A lot of the buildings were demolished when it became the park. My understanding is this was a condition of approval of planning for the development of ultra posh, ultra expensive faux-farm houses in one corner of the wood farm site opposite the entrance to Stanmore Orthopoeadic hospital/Aspire.
Great video Geoff, as a train enthusiast from Sydney, Australia, I can confirm that we do have a Stanmore as well located in the Inner West of Sydney. :)
Lived in Harrow Weald for many years in my youth, used Stanmore tube quite often as a route into work (a long one, but could walk it from home). No disability access ramps when I last used it!
Brings back a lot if good memories both personal & professional Geoff.
Beautiful area.
Surely the best anagram of Stanmore is "A Monster"
Could also be MONSTERA, which otherwise known as the Swiss Cheese Plant
you're a SMART ONE
Enjoying the series so far! I hope we'll see end of the line DLR branches and end of the line tram branches!
Very creative shot at 4.58 walking past puddle and looking back reflection. Also waste bin spreadsheet comment made me laugh.
Yes Geoff, Stanmore is on Sydney Trains' T2 Inner West & Leppington Line served by trains between City Circle and Homebush as well as Parramatta (Weekdays only) via Strathfield
We all like the classic noise of the jubilee line..
I spent a night at Stanmore Station testing out the CCTV system used by the drivers on the Jubilee line to check everyone is clear of the doors. We moved a train in and out of the station many times during the night one weekend. The report is available on line still I think.
0:15 The way you said "Stanmore" is really catchy !
Stanmore, New South Wales - 4.67 km from Sydney. Opened in 1878. (The line it's on opened 26 Sep 1855, duplicated 1 Jun 1856, quad 18 Mar 1892, sextuple 28 May 1928, electified 27 Apr 1928.)
Three pairs of tracks: Local (southmost) - Suburban - Main. Platforms: № 3: down side of down Local, and island № 2 and № 1 between up up Local and down Suburban (№ 1 not in use).
Accounting number for the station is 6.
Many, many trains pass through Stanmore every day, but only the Local line trains stop.
The excursion into the country park showed how you can sometimes quickly get from the outskirts to some sort of open countryside beyond the sprawl of London. The view from the top proved that you were still in the metropolis though.
Lobe see my old stomping ground showcased in such an excellent way. Thanks Geoff. Great vlog, as always.
From the 1934 LT Engineering Committee: Metropolitan Line (Stanmore Branch) - Proposed Extension
Mr. Cooper submitted a memorandum, reporting that the proposed extension of the Stanmore Line to join the projected route of the Edgware Extension just south of Elstree Station would have to be run in tunnel as shown previously. The scheme was noted as feasible, and it was decided that selling any of the property under which this extension might pass, the Estate Agents reserve easements in general terms without disclosing any definite proposal or line of route.
As a Sydney resident and train enthusiasts I can confirm that there is a Stanmore in the inner west of Sydney on the T2 and T3 lines of Sydney trains network
0:33 Correct there is a Stanmore station in Sydney, along with places like Penrith, Salisbury and Ipswich in Australia
Thanks!
Wow.
As Steve Shahbazian commented earlier, there was a plan to extend the line beyond Stanmore. This is very much my "local manor" and my daughter and l had a walk during the pandemic from our house next to Canons Park Station, up through the Country Park, past the view point and then across Stanmore Hill, into Priory Drive and down through the Bentley Priory Open Space, back down the hill into Stanmore and home (about 5 miles). I looked into the possible plans for an extension a couple of years ago when we used to do the walk a lot because the layout of Kerry Avenue just screams line extension, especially the big grid of manhole covers at the top of the hill next to the gate into the Country Park at the top of Kerry Avenue which you featured in your video I would love to go up there with a set of heavy duty manhole cover lifters and take a look at what's under there.
I now can't find the email I received from someone with an old map of an idea which never attained the status of an official plan.
Hello Geoff, yes there is a Stanmore Station in Sydney. There is also an Epping Station in Melbourne and Sydney. I could continue, but I think you get my point! 🙂
Yes Stanmore is on the innerwest line in Sydney. Usually all stations trains will stop here.
Yes Geoff there is a Stanmore Station In Sydney Australia which is very close to where i live
8:47 Let us remember this moment of history as the ‘Bin Census (Binsus) of 2023’
Hello Geoff
I’m in Melbourne, but I have looked up, you are correct. There is a station in Sydney named stanmore. In Melbourne we have a Richmond, Bayswater, Epping, South Kensington, Mitcham and Stratford.
Wow, so many stations with the same names!! I had no idea, thanks for telling us!
@@sara.othman no worries
I lived in Stanmore in Sydney. Riding the underground in London is like riding the Inner West line in Sydney: So many stations with the same name!
An excellent video! I often visit Stanmore Station on my way, too, and from the Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital.
I was told that had the Northern Heights actually been completed, it would have connected with the Stanmore branch that would have been extended to Brockley Hill Station.
Also it was good to briefly meet you amongst the second hand books on the Friday of the last Open Day.
Hi Geoff. I can tell you, there were two early plans by the LPTB, to POSSIBLY extend beyond Stanmore. One was to initially Elstree South, meeting up with the Northern Line trains from Edgware. This would then have seen Metropolitan line services (as it was that line that served Stanmore in 1934), continue to Aldenham or Bushey. This would've complimented the northern heights plan.
In 1936, another plan would've seen Met trains continue north of Stanmore to Elstree, on a different alignment, but meeting up with Northern line trains at Elstree, as District and Central line trains do at Ealing Broadway. Both plans needed a tunnel north of Stanmore, the first needing a 1.2 mile long double track tunnel, the second a 500m long tunnel.
Neither plan was included in the LPTB new works programme, and so never proceeded with, but Stanmore was designed to allow a northwards extension id so desired.
Yes, there is a Stanmore station here in Sydney. But unlike the one in London, Stanmore is just 10 minutes out of the city.
This station is the one that we used for family trips in to London when I was a kid. So this is a nostalgic video for me! Been looking forward to this one.
Stanmore Station in Sydney - Yep. Just down the road from where I live. There's a great little shop right next door that does the best hamburgers in the area. Win Win !!
Stanmore is my ‘local’ tube station. I use it most times I visit London - it may not technically be the closest tube station to my house but it is the easiest to get to - I live in Wolverhampton and the station is about five minutes off the M1 - TFL, please don’t sell off the car park for housing!
Being an orthopaedic surgeon, and having been to Stanmore where the Royal national Orthopaedic Hospital ( RNOH), the premier orthopaedic centre in UK is located, I feel it's ironic that there isn't a lift, considering that thousands of patients with mobility issues come there from around the world!
Loved the shot of you looking back via the puddle!! Genius!
Yes, there is a Stanmore Station in Sydney.
In more than a decade of residence near Sydney and frequent rail use, I must have passed Stanmore on hundreds of occasions (albeit almost exclusively on expresses tearing past on separate tracks) and, despite noticing and still remembering it today, I'm not sure it ever occurred to me that it had a namesake on the LU. Unlike Epping... Also, for vinyl enthusiasts, Stanmore = "Tone Arms"?
Most place names in Australia can be put into 3 categories
1. Places in Europe (and especially Britain)
2. European explorers and their backers.
3. Aboriginal Names.
As per my previous comments on Edgware, you might garner I live locally! Edgware and Stanmore are actually near each other (indeed, historically Edgware part of Greater Stanmore). So a few interesting items.
Yes, the Metropolitan did want to go beyond Stanmore, hence why it resembles a through station. The ultimate destination was Watford (it would have meant that the Metropolitan would have gone to Watford Junction via Stanmore and via Croxley Green), as was the GNR at Edgware (the rights passed to London Transport, and hence, the Northern Heights scheme), and at High (or as the locals say, Chipping) Barnet, onwards to Potters Bar.
The Canons Estate runs from where Canons Park station is to where Stanmore station is, yes the Duke of Chandos had a huge estate! The only remaining part are the gates at the entrance at Canons Drive (Edgware). In fact, London Road, that Stanmore station sits on was a diversion road, so the road from Stanmore to Edgware bypassed his estate. Now that's serious political and financial clout.
A small error. Canons Park station opened later, it wasn't there initially.
From the Wood Farm viewing point one can also see across all of central London, and quite clearly the spire of Harrow on the Hill. Great place. Also, by it, is a Roman settlement (or rather, the remains thereof).
Did Stanmore station kill Stanmore Village station? I'd disput that. The station was never popular, and had a reverse curve to London, basically being a line to Harrow & Wealdstone. You can still walk and see much of it. The curve sat where an industrial estate now sits, afterwards a nice walk to Belmont, and thence onwards to Stanmore Village (the station is now a private house). Also, Stanmore Village station was on the far side of Stanmore from Stanmore Tube, so a quite a distance betwixt the two.
BTW, did you see the 142 bus outside? Quite an old bus route from Watford Junction to Brent Cross, although re-routed within Edgware. Basically, from the old Roman Road, London Road split in Stanmore, with one arm to Uxbridge, and the other to Watford and beyond to Birmingham! Stanmore has some wonderful ancient buildings, worth looking at.
You may well realise that it's really quite normal for roads to screech to a halt, turn sharp left, then right, right and left again. There's usually a Lodge or two on the right, a high wall, or if you're lucky some Estate Fencing and Deer beyond.
Occasionally you get a chance to see the big 'ouse too.
Anywhere around this lime green at the moment country can you experience this, but especially in the South West. The longest brick wall around an Estate is indeed in Dorset. It was always a marker for me on the way to Grandma's house.
I used to deal with a company in Stanmore. I discovered that Bletchley had a youth hostel and was within cycling distance of Stanmore. I arrange with the Co. to visit them as it would be a good excuse to skive off to visit Bletchley Park too. Happy thought but never came to pass.
Those anagrams are hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hello Geoff,
You faded the Belmont Rattler just a little early at 1:12. Whilst the passenger service between Belmont & Stanmore Village was withdrawn on 15 September 1952, trains continued to run between Harrow & Wealdstone & Belmont until 5th October 1964. From 1954 to 1956, I was a train-spotter at H & W, the memory of which prompted me to bunk off from school & take one return trip to Belmont, sometime in summer 1957. A wheezy tank engine provided the motive power for 2 carriages of compartment stock. I had a compartment to myself. IIRC, only 4 passengers including me, alighted at Belmont & the same number made the return journey. I collected my bicycle at H & W, station & cycled home to Pinner. For the next 2 years, on summer term Wednesday sports afternoons at Byron recreation ground, I would pause at the crease & watch from the train trundle past Wealdstone cemetery. Used to disconcert the bowler no end!
I have been told by a friend from London that the exposed part of the station is a notorious sun trap in hot weather. So, I suppose you could go there to get more tans.....😉
The Car Park at Stanmore be like: “Men may come, Men may go but I go on forever.”
By the time you get to the far end of the car park you’re almost at cannons park! 😂
You really should take a trip to Sydney and check out the Stations there!
Great to see an end of the line I’ve been to!
hi Geoff yes that is true in Sydney Australia there is Stanmore station.
Me and my Dad have used Stanmore Station a number of times to get to Wembley Stsdium for the NFL after driving from Durham to get to Stanmore and then take the Underground line to Wembley Park, the trains go past Barnet FC's stadium as well
Yep there's a Stanmore station in Sydney it's 4 stops from central station (the king's Cross station of Sydney)
All those steps - no wonder I never put on any weight. 1960 to 1965 I went to school in Elstree via a school bus from Stanmore, after a 140 bus from Northolt and then a Bakerloo line train from Queensbury to Stanmore. If you missed the school bus, despite one waiting for latecomers, you were very late for school!
48 steps - equivalent to a 15-storey building
True, there is a Stanmore Station not far from Sydney, New South Wales.
I’ve been waiting for this!
Stanmore Station in Sydney is located on the T2 Inner-west & Leppington line.
You were quite near to an area where there was a quite severe ground collapse, under both tracks at Canons Park towards Queensbury in 2011. The northbound wasn't as bad as the southbound.
I worked in this area every night for over two years doing amber survey works (track geometry surveys).
The ground there has since been reinforced, via embankment strengthening works.
You can still see how bad it was when you leave Canons Park on the southbound, when you look out of the window at the cable run. You can clearly see how low it is compared to the track, plus the raises and dips indicate how much the track dropped. Considering the cable runs are normally quite high up and very level.
It is definitely worth a look.
I am really enjoying the end of the line series, as I have worked at all of these locations in my 25+ years on the underground.
Hi Geoff - love the videos. I'd love it if you could do a video or two about what's going on at Oxford, both in terms of the planned station upgrade and the unplanned bridge repairs!
Omg yes Geoff. It needs a lift. I go to the Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital up the hill, and like many travellers face a long wheel around!
That litter bin count 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Geoff. Your video is very great and impecable. Overall, the End of the Line series is sooooooo good and great.😊
Yes, I used to live in Sydney and yes there is a Stanmore train station
Hi Geoff from Spain. As I have mentioned before, I first went to Stanmore back in October 1957 when I went to the Met Office training school which was just a short walk from the station. Buying a newspaper from the paper shop, I found out that the Russians had launched Sputnik !, the first ever artificial satellite. To me Stanmore was and always will be the end of the Bakerloo line. No need for a waiting room? We used to walk along the platform, most got into the train and the last one in pressed the external 'Close Doors' button on the end of the carriage and hopped inside during the slight delay.
Thank you for your memories. Evocative!
That Stanmore county park looks great! I don’t think I’ve been there yet, didn’t even know it existed! 🤔
Over the road and continue up the main road of the estate. Only about 5 minutes from the station forecourt.
Me neither. I should have visited when I was working in the office block next door when it was AMP.
I didn’t know either and I lived in close by Bushey Heath for 24 years growing up! 😂
Some really nice walking in the area, as the green belt basically starts after Stanmore. I imagine a lot of people just outside London drive to the station car park to travel into London.
I went there a couple of months ago to collect an Ebay havy package, with a shopper trolley-bag, gosh that 'step free' route seemed endless.
Stanmore, Sydney is the stop next to my local Newtown! (I’m a Brit on exchange in Syd)
and of course Stanmore is home to the best sounding trains on the network!
Yes there is a Stanmore station on the inner west line of Sydney Trains
Its nice the way that the metropolitan built their terminus stations in a more domestic style! Theres another station they built on a proposed extension which i cant remember, which reverted to shop use, no-one would ever have suspected it of wanting to be a station!
It's uncanny how many End of the Line stations have specific relevance to my life... I live in Watford... I go through Harrow and Wealdstone most evenings (and worked at Woolworths stores in both Harrow AND Wealdstone)... I work in Uxbridge.... I used to drive past Cockfosters station on a regular basis... and when my family first moved to the Watford area we lived in Bushey Heath and Stanmore was our local station and route into London! I guess I'm an end of the line kind of guy!
Oh dear. I think that you're one of those suburban people one hears about occasionally.
I'm joking, I'm joking!
You, lucky bugger, get the fresh air, I get the particulates and perverts puking and peeing on my street.
Swings and Hanger Lane Gyratories I s'pose.
Hi Geoff,
I was in Sydney for a few years and yes there is a Stanmore station (although it’s; spelt different?…(?) IDK) I used to catch trains there regularly. But I would never use it as a direct route. It’s best used ( at least in my case) in conjunction with other transport modes as it’s not really useful; Sydney’s hilly (& from memory it was mainly this issue that made it not so useful for people like me but very useful for other people: I found that in the inner west it became in the way for everyone doing stuff on Leichhardt/Balmain peninsula ( from memory again! (Sorry!)) as it’s a little away from all the usefulness around there. I hope this helps?
😢 IDK
I recommend Bus or Light Rail: what you’d call tram!
Lol. The step free access is ridiculous. It takes you to the car park , with a lot of ramps, and away from the main road and bus stops (and to exit the car park on foot is a significant incline). Hugely inconvenient. As a mum with a buggy, I would bump the buggy down the main steps of the station and hope someone would help me carry the buggy back up when exiting.
Thanks Geoff. I really enjoyed that.
Loving these series Geoff. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Hi Geoff, great video but as others have pointed out, not having proper step-free access at Stanmore is even more of an issue because it’s the nearest station to the Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital so many people in wheelchairs or who can’t walk well use it - and there is also no TFL bus up the hill - it’s further on from the viewpoint you went to! I work at Aspire which has one of the few 100% accessible leisure centres in the country and is on the site of the RNOH and another reason more suitable step-free access is needed at Stanmore.
I visited this station when on holidays in London as it had the same name as the Sydney station 😆
In addition to Stanmore in Sydney, here in Melbourne is a South Kensington
And Richmond, Bayswater, Epping, Stratford and Mitcham
@@chiefpred9982 oh, yes, agreed, although Stratford is well outside Melbourne.
Geoff there is a train station in Sydney called Stanmore not many people use it though and it's only use by 4,040 passengers daily
I am sure Belmont Station stayed open much later since I lived in Harrow & Wealdstone area and went to what was then Harrow Weald Grammar School in the late 50’s/early 60’s. If I recall correctly, the number 18 bus took you past Belmont Circus and the station.