Making Records with Eric Valentine - Slash (feat. Andrew Stockdale) "By The Sword"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- In this episode I deconstruct the recording and production of "By The Sword" by Slash and Andrew Stockdale. I also talk about the differences in how I approach mixing a song like this now versus when the album was worked on 10 years ago. There is tons of info about recording mixing rock drums, bass and guitar, drum micing, drum phasing issues, guitar phasing when blending amps, EQing guitars and a general update about my travels over the holidays!! #slash #andrewstockdale #wolfmother
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Hey, I made that plugin (AR-1)! Thanks for the kind words Eric!!
man your stuff is awesome. and I just got that amazing AR-1 what a greeat tip from Eric :D:D:D
@@gius_taakstudio Thanks, I truly appreciate the support!
@@TheHouseofKushTV I have all of them, really impressive and I appreciate!!
I'm hoping to get some Kush plugins later on in the year.
Gregory Kush has the best mixing TH-cam channel on the youtube but he only wears one outfit.
Am I the only one who still can't believe that this is on the internet for free for everyone to consume and learn from?! You're doing the lord's work, Eric! What an epic episode!
+1 ;)
I feel the same this is incredible
Well said ✌🏻
25:00 - Mix bus
38:49 - Drum bus
42:58 - Drum miking
47:40 - Kick
54:30 - Snare
56:00 - Overheads
1:03:40 - Toms
1:10:28 - Bass Guitar
1:13:40 - Acoustic Guitar
1:17:13 - Electric 12 String
1:22:45 - Electric Guitar
1:37:38 - Guitar Solo
1:43:30 - Vocal
Thanks
I think this session is a perfect example of why the SOURCE was, is, and always will be KING. The players, the rooms, the performance, the instruments. The things you’re actually recording. Yes the audio gear helps, yes Soothe is amazing, but ultimately you’re just highlighting those fantastic raw tracks so they blend together. Imagine if you had been monitoring with your current setup while tracking! (That’ll keep you up at night). Amazing work as always!
wow, the tone the unfairchild brings to the mix is unreal.
I remember discovering this album when i was like 13. Definitely one of the pieces of music that got me into guitar and shaped my music taste in general. Really glad you made this video dude!
Hog Blockula haha exactly same for me
Yes! Been waiting for some Slash! Happy New Year Eric!
This was excellent - thank you! I've used numerous songs from this album as mix references over the years, due to the outstanding definition and overall attitude of the mixes. Nonetheless, it is so refreshing to hear someone with your industry kudos and recognition be so brutally honest and humble in acknowledging that you are continuing to grow and search. Very heartening!
No summing mixer this time then? I think this comparative could be the perfect example of how the debate of ITB vs OTB, hybrid vs Console is no longer relevant. It's amazing how you improved an old mix (done with loads of great analog gear) just with plugins and a great analog bus compressor. You put the light on the most important stuff: technique and how you listen is way more important than gear. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and hats off to your clever, flexible and humble approach to the art of mixing.
Yeah I think if I was actually mixing this for release I probably would use my passive summing mixer but its a pretty subtle difference. I'm pretty darn happy with the ITB version and just H/W insert for the UnFairchild :)
Thanks for the master class! :) The amount detail you put into this stuff is really paramount to what makes the record go. And the original mixes on the whole album are just phenomenal and no need to sell it short or "could be better"... just a great album all the way around top to bottom. You could deconstruct all the tunes from that record as far as I'm concerned. Just a big thanks from me. Also want to mention great job on the general flow of the video. That was a TON of stuff to cover and you did it very well.
"it's fucking Slash man, it should be loud"... made me laugh. Thanks for all these excellent videos!!!
me too XD LOL
The new mix sounds incredible. Too bad we cant get a version of this mix
Everytime I think my mixes are decent, I watch EV and have to start over! Thanks EV for making me rethink what sounds good and how to get there. Its amazing some of the things you do I would never really think about doing. My mixes have improved just doing some of the cool stuff you have shown.
These videos are like a private lesson. Thank you so much for sharing, Eric.
Another great mix breakdown! Thanks Eric:-) TH-cam is very lucky to have you willing to share. Happy New Year to you and the family! Come on 100.000 subs!
Those drums sound incredible!
The best rock record of the century! You're an awesome producer! Cheers from Argentina!
jeepers....this was like a masterclass on incredible huge tones!!!! I can't remember when I've ever heard a kick drum that was THAT huge in a mix ever before!!!!
Great video, thanks so much Eric. That overheard technique sounds very similar to what people call the "recorderman technique" these days and I use that all the time. Easily my favorite OH configuration.
Holly Molly, the differene is huge, not only the mid-range, in the low end too. Happy New Year!
Really enjoy these videos Eric, it's great hearing about why you make these choices and the insight into the recordings. I've gained so much knowledge from these videos!
These videos are SO GOOD for learning techniques about drum mixing
I know I'm meticulous ...but hats off to you!
Really inspiring to see how no detail escapes your attention...and whatever it takes, gets done :)
I’ve been on a deep dive with all your vids, I’m finding them so incredibly inspiring and endlessly informative. Thank you for being so generous with us!
From an artistic view I think both mixes sound equally as great. The old mix does possess a a more surreal and chewy feeling, manly because of how the vocal effect tickles the mind hehe. But the clarity, size and sense of groove really comes through on the new mix. I found this comparison really exciting and inspiring. Thank you!
Thank you so much for making these videos Eric. I have learned an incredible amount from you. You are genuinely inspiring.
Man I remember listening to this album and this song in particular on repeat when I was like 15 ! You're the man Eric !
Yes!! It was so good to see you go through this in Hertfordshire. Thank you!!
1:39:53 This specific bend...mmm...sooo good!!!🎸🤟
the title music for your channel is the greatest thing I've ever heard
What a great channel! Listening to your perspective and absorbing your infinite wisdom invokes a great feeling of gratitude in me. Thank you. 🙏🏻
I've watched this 3 times already. I wish this version was available to listen to in full.
I can’t thank you enough for how much I’ve learned from your sharing these videos! Quick questions regarding this track: 1) I see you’ve done the bar/beat tempo map, was this recorded to a click? What are your thoughts on using a click vs tracking to a loop? 2) you didn’t mention what mics you used on the guitars, which sound amazing. Thx again, happy 2020!
Genius! Love your videos so much, every track with details. No one done it so well like you.
They’re releasing all the hounds, What is lost can still be found”. Words to live by!
5 mikes and an amazing drummer.
Don't need nothing else.
So much mojo, very Zeppelin-esque.
Always loved this song AND the mix (both the original and this one), so interesting to see this.
Thanks Eric!
Definately send this new mix on to Slash! I've been employing generous lashings of Sie-Q,Soothe,and Kush in my soundtrack music thanks to thee,Cheers for your generous output and Happy New Decade!
Sounds incredible, thank you for sharing Eric!
Amazing as usual, Eric. Thank you!!! FYI, you can option-click the notification tab to turn on do not disturb. 🤘
I was going to goto bed until this gem popped up. See ya in two hours.
CHRISTMAS MOON SOUNDS INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!! Wtf- please god do a deconstruction- You and Grace HAVE to do an entire album that sounds like that- i feel like I finally got to hear a clean Phil Specter recording - the backing vocals are UNBELIEVABLE
Thank you so much, so helpful!
Again a fantastic job! this album made me know his work many years ago! Congratulations and thank you.
at 33 minutes and 59 seconds it's just exellent as the unfairchild gives another dimmenssion to the bass drum and makes all the bottom warmer and more understanding !!! Wow this is great!! Ar1 is also very close to the unfair!!
Holy crap that ar1 plug-in sounds great! I bought because of this video! Thanks for these! Happy new year!
Wish I could afford that unfairchild!
This was and is one of my all-time favorite albums. Just the whole thing was amazing through and through. Perfect band, perfect guests, perfect songwriting, performances and mixing. When it came out I was still in the hospital due to the lymphedema in my legs. I was constantly getting infections and almost died about three times. It was just a really rough period emotionally, physically and financially. This album brought a ton of light into my life. It gave me the inspiration to get back into playing guitar and any time I'd feel down it was one of the albums I'd go back to and listen to (the others being T-Ride, the second Gorillaz album and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road).
Amazing.. Just amazing.. Thanks again for this masterclass Eric! That drum sounds so good with so little mic's! Very inspiring.
Just done an A/B between the album version and this new mix. The diference in the mid, and low mids is remarkable. Thank you for sharing! cheers
those drums..... ! You really nailed that Zep sound. Just massive! And the most tasteful solo playing I've heard from Slash, particularly in the beginning with his volume knob down low.
One of my favorite mixes right now! Thanks
Nice one! I can really the upper mids blossom with the Unfairchild engaged in the Shoot-out. They're both doin the thing! But the hardware UF is stellar! Keep the geeky-tech dialogue going as well? Very cool! The warmest of Holiday Wishes to you and your family!
That kick drum is ridiculous. Love it.
Happy New Year and thx for the vids so far, looking forward to the next year of vids. Always looking forward to them, Thx.
Amazing how you can make the total greater than the sum of he parts. I was expecting the guitar tracks to have the full meat of the final mix, but actually they’re pretty light in bottom end compared with how they feel in the finished product!
11:00 to skip the preamble ramble. :D
I read comments for guys like you, Thanks !
The room is evolving nicely Eric.
This is the song I subscribed in anticipation for!!!!!! Thank you!!
the width and how the instruments come up front is amazing with the Unfairchild vs the UA and AR1. wow.
Man I'm not a drummer.....but that snare....so rewarding.
This is so amazing! Thank you for sharing and Happy new year to all!
This is an insanely good song too, I wonder if we can hear this mix of it anywhere. Would be a great remix album!
Happy New Year Eric for you and your family!!!!
MAKING RECORDS with ERIC VALENTINE I feel you on the side chain delay compensation. The only way to access it unfortunately is to have an HDX card and use the HDX driver. They’ve made it an HDX feature only. I personally do not like the HDX driver. I feel like I get a lot of CPU errors with it compared to the built in output. I use pro tools ultimate as well. I like doing the gate trigger with this. I can’t attest if it’s sample accurate, but it’s sounds like it’s working ok. I like using it with waves in-phase to align the close mics to overheads and rooms with the side chain delay compensation. I love your videos and am a huge fan of the 3eb self titled record you did. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. They’ve helped me a lot.
That was interesting comparing the UAD Fairchild against the UnFairchild. The bloom was 100% noticeable and THAT is the thing I care about more than any gain in bass, etc. though- what the hardware is doing to the bass is really sweeeet.
Damn you! Got to start saving for a UnFairchild :)
note that UBK had the sidechain hpf engaged, the Uad didn't. The "lack of bass" probably is due to that
Hey! Thanks for all the content man, such a powerfull info and pro work!
Great episode! I agree, the new mix sounds a lot better. It's kind of peculiar, it has more of everything: low end, presence, separation and depth. Cheers!
Those drums! Those drums!!! Thanks and happy new year 🥳
Great discussion, as always. Happy new year, Eric!
Awesome video Eric! 👌🏻👍🏻🤘🏻🥳
Great stuff!! Thanks Eric🤘
This is Great Eric! I wish you have showed us the GNR November Rain mix 😉
This kind of videos you're uploading really break all the rules from the "secrecy of audio association" that many many years gave us just poorly and loose writen material, mostly untranspolable for someone looking for real examples and insight information! ...and... FOR FREE!? (and with a really high profile artist!) Jeezzz... just Thank You Eric!
I'm curious to hear what Slash thinks of the new mix if he checks it out. Great episode, as always!
That new mix is killer 😍
Thanks Eric, Happy new year!
This stuff is gold... Thank you!
Pre liked :)
Increible, Muchas Gracias
What a great way to see out the year. One question, how do you attach the what`s-it to the who`s-it? I nearly put my back out!
I think first you attach the thingamajig to the thingamabob, and then hold on for dear life as the whatchamacallit goes. They don't really explain it clearly
A very happy New Year indeed!
Hey Eric! Hope all is well and great video man!
I like the old mix' snare. So PHAT.
Making Records is my new Netflix :-D
Hey Eric, this is so good thanks ! So did you end-up sending it to Slash ? any reaction ? even a possibility to put this version out ? that'd be so useful.
Another great breakdown. Thanks so much for sharing this Eric! Learned lots as usual. Who would have thought moving something 2 samples would make such a difference? I recently had to move a track 1600 samples before it sounded best. I'll probably have to rerecord it if it's that off though.
Just watching this again for the nth time and had some questions!
1) when the AC30 is used is it with its matching cab (the combo) or a different cab?
2) with the wah guitar did you put the wah pedal before your DI? Or was it after the reamp out and would have to be redone later?
Original is genius.......new version is more genius. I hope Slash has kept is receipt for the original.....ha ha. Thanks Eric, learnt sooooo much form this.
This is sooo good to watch. Can definitely hear Levee in those drums. I really hoped if GnR did a new album you’d be called. I really didn’t find the Baskette album pleasing sonically. No offence to him obviously as he’s a very talented cat. I think in regard to you trying to ‘better’ your old mix, you obviously pushed it to a place where you felt something and we felt it too. Perfection comes from imperfection.
I am not done watching yet. But, holy shit, this sounds so good!
If you see this Eric you should take a look at positive grid's tube compressor. I believe it's the best Fairchild based emulation that's currently available as it has many variables. I'm in no way affiliated with positive grid dude. I just love their plugins!
Awesome 👏
Have good year my friend!!btw, no comparison with the plugin. Unfairchild all the way. Not the same, but for me still the Smart C1 cant be reached in no way by any ssl plugin on the mixbus
THANKS EV!
Plugins are getting better and better, but I'm starting to use them less and less the more I learn (the UBK is great btw) :)
Happy New Year!MR.EV
Thank You !!!
Kick drum sounds amazing
Really great song and mix, Eric. I would love a shot at remixing this one man. While I think the drums are powerful, I would love to hear them treated with a bigger roomy sound, ala Bonham or Cozy Powell!
Thanks god, It's Christmas !
Something about the old mix's snare I like. I feel it suits the song more. But the rest of the newer mix is better.