I totally dig this thing in theory, but one little dent or warp in the wrong spot and the filter will either bind, or allow air bypass. So for my money, I’m gonna stick to the plastic versions and a the TI cook pot that I’m carrying anyway.
@@randyyeagerno the cylinder that you filter through is titanium bottle. but it's titanium.... So part of stainless Steels problem is it's weight, because (when it falls) it hits harder because it weighs more denting itself. titanium so light and strong that it won't Dent as easily as stainless from the same fall. Just don't drop it get a protective sleeve to go over it so if you do drop it it won't there's so many things you can do to prevent that if it's your most important piece of kit that you have just make sure you make it to where it won't put a lanyard so if you drop it it hangs around your neck or something
@@MRNTAT1621exactly titanium is stronger but it also doesn't deform in state deformed as easily I would be more concerned about using it on heat and cooking in it then I would be concerned with denting it by a drop or whatever if I got a titanium one I absolutely would not be boiling water in the cup I would just have it for weight and strength
it has a down side and this is when you use the outer pot to cook. its hard to wash cos of the narrow design and it consume the filter much faster because there is always some left overs in the pot
This is why I love your channel. No bs, fluff or sales push. Just info that we need as consumers. I was a little annoyed to see this just after I pulled the trigger on an ultrapress (it's still in the mail lol) but after seeing your review I can see the Ti version isn't something that will fill a spot in my gear lineup. Thankfully the regular ultrapress is and I can't wait to bring it along on my adventures. It was a hard decision between stealth black and mojave red rock but in the end, the mojave won. Thanks for bringing us these based reviews Aaron.
I asked them a while back to have replaceable carbon blocks. Because these things are so expensive, and carbon is the first to go. Even if you don't use it. Therefore it's only fair to just be able to replace it. So that makes it as my daily driver. pretty impractical basically.
I pre-ordered it when it was announced and it should be arriving next week so I am excited to see how it does for me and I expect it to compliment your review!
very interesting. i may have to look into this next time i feel like i deserve a present. i dont see the point in the d ring. the folding handles would do that job just fine. it would be nice if it was roughly the dimensions of a nalgene bottle
I will stick with my Geopress, but trying to find the out of stock Pathfinder Nesting Cup for it. After all, one is none and two is one. Thanks for the review, always appreciate your content.
@Predbeau101 a month after the Pathfinder x Grayl Geopress Nesting was released, it was sold out everywhere. Have been checking for the last 2 months and can’t even find it on eBay. Hope it was not a limited single run and they get a replenishment at some point. It is what it is, jealous of your position rn lol
FYI, the Ultra Press Ti fits nicely inside of the Snow Peak Ti coffee press. Wrap a quarter folded bandana around the ultra before sliding in the coffee press for a snug fit (and to have a pre filter). The plunger on the metric and imperial calibrated coffee press disassembles - use the top for a lid. Go ahead and brainstorm the possibilities from here. (Also, the Snow Peak is a little bit more stable on a stove.)
I received mine recently and was bummed to find out that the outer shell is too narrow for the MSR Pocket Rocket2. However I picked up the Soto Windmaster and it works like a charm as the pot rests come further into the center when they are collapsed. It does make me a little nervous when it hits that boil. The great thing is the stove, igniter, sponge and cloth will all nest inside of the grayl for carry. Just not the fuel canister. Though there are some alcohol stoves that will fit with fuel for a self contained system, so long as they are narrower than 2.4".
@ 4:30 IMHO the additional D-ring is ridiculous - if your are high above your water source, just attach some paracord around the body and through the butterfly handles - the pull cord starts exactly where the D-ring sits.
Nice idea, a friction lid or screw on like you mentioned is more practical. Needs to be offered in a larger size then I would definitely purchase. Thank you
Threads on the bottom would get carboned up on a fire BUT they could make a silicone lid like snowpeak. Grayl’s could press fit on the bottom when the filter was in the top
I could be wrong but isn’t it problematic to put your purified water back in the outer part where the dirty water is? I mean yes you boil it but it’s so tall that there might be some dirty leftovers at the top?
I had the grayl tbh its just dead weight, and after a month or two of use its al;ready needing replacing, the lifestraw filter 4000 liters, and its free pocket weight.
Dude,I just got a grayl,took it camping a few weeks ago, I love it an now this,this one looks amazing, dang it's 100.00 but I can see myself using it quite frequently an an many uses to,I think yes on a lid that unscrew from the bottom or what not but definitely one that clicks on it like the camp cups ,I love the graphics on the outer bottle too.
They better have it for the geopress. I have a major unquenchable thirst 🤣 but yeah honestly I just want to replace my stainless bottle kits with this. Cool cool!
Regular cup is 89$ that's a pretty gnarly price but it's needs a nesting cup for cooking that's like another 30$ (Amazon titanium cup) doesn't take much more space but will add a little weight or you can spend 200$ get the same thing but now you don't need a nest save a little weight and one less object to carry but I feel nesting is so efficient it didn't really need a replacement I like the idea of fishing water out if you can't physically get there but I can do that already with my nesting cup. Same with not touching water to refill. And it feels like my nest cup adds protection and if it gets slightly dented it is almost 5 times cheaper to replace. Over all though it's a awesome 2 in 1 design but I'll carry my 2 cups unless there's a decent price drop for this style then maybe il consider it.
Some hopefully helpful Grayl tips. Add a fine film of food grade silicone paste to the main O-ring. That alone made mine 10x easier to press which is one of the few complaints with the Grayl. They sell food grade silicone in tiny tubes that will last years. It is often used on scuba equipment. For situations where you can't apply full body weight from above try leaning back and pressing it into your chest with both hands. I don't get leaks once the main O-ring is initially seated into the outer cup. Also, the Ti comes with a fine mesh outer bag. It will have some degree of pre-filter capability but of course nothing like 100 microns.
I do like TI version but titanium is very soft by the nature I do have few different ones and they look great as they are new but after while they just get dented damaged and they look ugly , unfortunately
It seems like a great design but they're quite heavy (12.5 or 16oz) and bulky compared to say, a platypus bladder and a quick draw micro filter (3.3 oz) Also, what happens if it freezes? Does the plastic container crack easily when it gets really cold...how about the filter? This seems like a car camping solution but not ideally suited to backcountry hikers.
Ive been considering getting this filter but i had a question. I do a lot of camping in the winter and having a bottle that I can put hot water into and throw into my sleeping bag is essential for staying warm on cold nights. Is it possible to utilize the inner press bottle without the filter for this purpose?
@@gideonstactical 7:37 looks like you set it in the dirt. I've never used a grayl before so idk how wet the filter end is. Was thinking about the possibility of getting the inside of my pack wet. Also don't know how problematic it might be if it fell over and some grit got stuck to the outside of the inner bottle. Would it get stuck between the outer wall when going back together and could that cause problems?
I has extremely excited when I first heard about this. However I was very disappointed when I found out the titanium model was only available for the small version and not the full size geopress. Second the lack of a lid is a hudge fail, I don't know what they were thinking. So for now I have zero use for it. I will stick with my old geopress matched with the New Pathfinder cup which I absolutely love.
I have both systems, the geopress and pathfinder cup and also the titanium ultrapress and I love them both....I carry the titanium when I want to go ultralight and the size is no problem, as for the lid, I found the PERFECT silicone lid that fits it perfectly. I have a water bottle and coffee cup combo from the British company called cupple and the lid from the cup fits the titanium ultrapress like it was made for it, it sits in it loosely enough to be lifted easily if boiling or cooking, but also allows me to drink hot beverages without burning my lip, and the holes in the lid allow steam to vent when boiling, I ordered another lid from their website because they upgraded to a molded plastic lid that fit the cup better, so I use the original silicone lid as a dedicated lid for my grayl....I don't think they make that version any longer though.
So will the ultrapress filter work on this for replacement or is it different size. I love my new ultrapress grayl,used it for first time several weeks ago at camp an love it,I really the uses of this new grayl,probably go broke,lol getting everyone in my family one.
Just a question, you filter your water, then separate the clean filtered water by puling the filter from the bottom portion. the bottom portion is contaminated because you scooped the nasty water with it. is it safe to put your clean water back in the bottom or the cup portion of the filter to make your clean favorite drink?
Any updates at all yet? I would love to see a 24oz or larger but CS told me thats why they have the other version lol...and no plans for a larger size yet.
The only problem I have with these are the filter lifespans. Only 150 liters. As a prepper I rather use an msr product, particularly my trailshot for 2k liters.
Thanks for this review! I’m wanting to guy some fun/useful items for my sister and her husband for camping. What else would you recommend. In the UK so not in any crazy climates.
Form factor is too small, should have built it on their larger design, stability issues, you could buy a regular Grail, and a Titanium cook pot, and half to cost.
@Mike Cohen is right. Its not designed for prime time. Too small to be stable, under capacity and too much for the cost. The streamline thing is overblown because the Ti cylinder is too tall to vs width. Classic case of nothing beats a proper pot.
If you're thinking of doing another review (after using it more), can you please consider testing how it holds up after being dropped? With a dent, I think it will make it impossible to press down to filter
And, would you be able to replace the cup if it did dent and you couldn't press with it. As of now, it did not see it sold that way on the site. Might be one of those, contact customer service situations if it did happen 🤷🏻♂
even if you can push down, the whole system relies on the seal between the bottle and the shell, which is compromised with the smallest dent in either. Plus warping after multiple rounds of heating. Im not sure this solution is as sustainable as it advertises.
i like it. my questions - what is the chance of re-contaminating the water when pouring it from the filtered container back into the titan one. isn't probably not a big deal but something to consider. also - would it be a problem to clean it in the field after using it as a (instant) coffee mug - or would using it as a filter right after using it as a coffee mug not be an issue at all? and lastly - what was it with the electrolyte thing? totally lost me there.
I think this thing is awesome! The only concern I have is if you dent it, even slightly, it probably doesn't filter water anymore. Also... if it warps from being heated, is that also going to hinder filtration?
Thanks for the review, I have picked one up and very happy with it. One question is that while I’m boiling the water if there was a cap on it that could go in the fire that certainly would allow the water to boil more quickly. Any thoughts on what would make a nice durable cap? I could always use a piece of aluminum, but anything more durable on your mind? Thank you.
I would like to see Grayl release a version where you can boil water and after a few seconds or a few minutes you are able to use the water filter without damaging the filter. I imagine technology like this is a long way off though. Would be good for urban environments in minor flooding situations.
@@stalwart263 Grayl said that for seriously infected water such as flood water it would be best to boil and the filter or filter than boil as they can't guarantee filtered flood water will be safe to drink. Obviously flood water isn't what you should be drinking but if you're caught up in a flood and cut off from help for an extended period of time, including supply from aid workers/organisations, you have to do what you have to do. I myself am not to concerned with the typical survival in the woods type things (whilst good to know) I'm more concerned with urban survival in a SHTF or natural disaster as I live in an urban environment and never go into the bush.
You should just get yourself 2, then pour them back and forth until it cools which would only take a few minutes. Then fill and boil the other one and by the time you're thirsty again, that one would be cooled
Grayl your gonna make me go broke! Lol... You could use Hot lips for the bottom after boiling water. I own the geopress and it works great but i love this idea. Nice breakdown man thanks! Stay safe! Hike on!
All I care about is the water purification of this product! Does it work or not, am I going to get sick or not when I drink water from a stream, creek, river, lake, mud puddle, or other dirty tributaries that might need to be used for a water source! ???
Would be nice if they came out with a 32oz bottle instead of just 16 and 24oz. Although it probably would be quite a bit larger than a normal 32oz bottle.
How many litres can one filter filtrate before it becomes useless? And, far more importantly, how do you know when the filter has reached the end of its life before you start poisoing yourself by continuing to use it? Thank you
From what I have heard, there does not exist a filter that is capable of taking all contaminants out of water and it is wise to boil first, then filter. This set up would allow one to boil, then filter for safest results.
G'day Aaron, great to see a company not resting on their laurels. A couple of points though; Since its already a purification unit you only need to make water hot for drinking coffee, tea, soup. And for meals, I find a tall narrow vessel to be a pain in the backside. So, ..... if one carries something else to cook food, that mug/pot can boil water too. Only real benefit of this version IMO is you can cook in another container and boil water at the same time on an open fire; though with a bottle/mug combo and a "standard" Grayl for purification you can do that anyway Just my 2 cents mate, I reckon it will suit many folks MO, thanks for showing it . Cheers Duke.
The 200.00 price, will be a deal killer for most people. The wait will be another. That thing is really heavy for an ultra lighter. So price and weight just removed this from most hikers list. So who was this marketed for? PS just one dent or any warping you got a 200.00 paperweight! :(
Aaron, thanks for all of your reviews and videos. I think Grayl had a good idea on this, but should have made options other than only 24oz. Unfortunately that is far to small to be really useful to me as a camping or hiking water filter. A 40oz option or larger would have been a more useful alternative. Hopefully they’ll make something larger in the future.
Great review. Its a very nice piece of kit for sure. Ive owned the geo press for quite a few years now with zero complaints. Maybe a future purchase for me...
I have 2 of the 24oz Grayl Geopress filters and am very impressed with their performance. Yes, they are expensive, but considering the ease of use AND that they filter out even viruses they are my go-to water filters. I was initially very interested in buying their titanium filter (I have replaced all of my s.s. cups and pots with titanium), but $200.00 for the 16.9oz version is too expensive. Now if they would offer the titanium cups for the original 24oz. Geopress, I would buy 2!
I have 24 Oz maroon red with orange ,I love it,awesome peice of gear in my buyout bag,was worth every penny, tried it a few ago at camp an it worked beautifully, no regrets, so dang,I'm about to pull the trigger on this new one,when available an make my buddy jealous seeing how he should an talked me into one for wste purification on the first place an it was a grest idea,he my collapse or faint when I tell him the price but then again for the quality, I think he'll be down for it
You don’t. This allows you to filter your water while you’re on the go then when you get to camp, boil your water for your dehydrated meals or coffee. Instead of having to bring a secondary titanium mug, taking out more space and more weight.
!!!!!!!!! $200.00 FKN DOLLARS !!!!!!! SCREW THAT! I’ll take the pathfinder nesting cup…..$100.00 MORE FOR A TITANIUM CUP!!! DO THEY SEND SOME VASALINE WITH IT…..WOWY…..THX GRAYL….
I totally dig this thing in theory, but one little dent or warp in the wrong spot and the filter will either bind, or allow air bypass.
So for my money, I’m gonna stick to the plastic versions and a the TI cook pot that I’m carrying anyway.
I'm pretty sure the ti cup it comes with just goes over the whole grayle. Unless you dent it heavily, it shouldn't effect the way the grayle works.
It's titanium so unless you accidentally hit it with a sledge hammer you should be good lol
If only you had something handy to boil some water in.
Good luck doing that in a plastic one.
@@randyyeagerno the cylinder that you filter through is titanium bottle.
but it's titanium.... So part of stainless Steels problem is it's weight, because (when it falls) it hits harder because it weighs more denting itself.
titanium so light and strong that it won't Dent as easily as stainless from the same fall. Just don't drop it get a protective sleeve to go over it so if you do drop it it won't there's so many things you can do to prevent that if it's your most important piece of kit that you have just make sure you make it to where it won't put a lanyard so if you drop it it hangs around your neck or something
@@MRNTAT1621exactly titanium is stronger but it also doesn't deform in state deformed as easily I would be more concerned about using it on heat and cooking in it then I would be concerned with denting it by a drop or whatever if I got a titanium one I absolutely would not be boiling water in the cup I would just have it for weight and strength
it has a down side and this is when you use the outer pot to cook. its hard to wash cos of the narrow design and it consume the filter much faster because there is always some left overs in the pot
I have the big Grayl and I love it. I highly recommend it to everyone.
This is why I love your channel. No bs, fluff or sales push. Just info that we need as consumers. I was a little annoyed to see this just after I pulled the trigger on an ultrapress (it's still in the mail lol) but after seeing your review I can see the Ti version isn't something that will fill a spot in my gear lineup. Thankfully the regular ultrapress is and I can't wait to bring it along on my adventures. It was a hard decision between stealth black and mojave red rock but in the end, the mojave won. Thanks for bringing us these based reviews Aaron.
Thanks so much brother!! The ultrapress will serve you well!
wow. this looks very interesting, I'm a happy user of the geopress, this is definitely on the list, will be nice in a larger capacity too
Now that is a cool idea. I'm going to have to find the budget for it. Thanks Aaron for a great review.
For sure my friend! 👍
They've made something good, even better! And more expensive! Nice!
Hahah
Lol… great!
I asked them a while back to have replaceable carbon blocks. Because these things are so expensive, and carbon is the first to go. Even if you don't use it. Therefore it's only fair to just be able to replace it. So that makes it as my daily driver. pretty impractical basically.
Very cool system
I hope they also make a titanium version of their larger filter
Great review, I have the Geopress, just ordered the new filter and drink mix valve for our trip to Vietnam next week.
Awesome! Hope you have a great and safe trip. Spent time in Cambodia but that was before Grayl existed otherwise I would have taken it.
I pre-ordered it when it was announced and it should be arriving next week so I am excited to see how it does for me and I expect it to compliment your review!
I like the screw on lid idea. They could even make a screw on flange to widen the base as well, though it wouldn't be as streamlined.
Self Reliance Outfitters has a 24oz stainless nesting cup/pot for the geopress.
I was wondering when they where gonna come out with a fire safe water purifier like that. That's a perfect combination. Im sold
I was looking at this the other day. Looks really good. Love the versatility. And the pack as well. Just need this to be offered in the larger size
Hopefully soon👍
@@gideonstactical I asked them and they said they were planning on offering any larger size, idk why not
meant to tag you, but they said they were not planning on offering a larger size, ugh
@@alpineamanda That’s crazy, I wonder why? It seems like everyone wants the larger size
@@brandong2142 Exactly, idk it was just a CS associate so hopefully they are wrong! if I hear back from them on IG I'll report back.
very interesting. i may have to look into this next time i feel like i deserve a present. i dont see the point in the d ring. the folding handles would do that job just fine. it would be nice if it was roughly the dimensions of a nalgene bottle
I will stick with my Geopress, but trying to find the out of stock Pathfinder Nesting Cup for it. After all, one is none and two is one. Thanks for the review, always appreciate your content.
@Predbeau101 a month after the Pathfinder x Grayl Geopress Nesting was released, it was sold out everywhere. Have been checking for the last 2 months and can’t even find it on eBay. Hope it was not a limited single run and they get a replenishment at some point. It is what it is, jealous of your position rn lol
When grayl first came out they had a stainless steel version that I purchased I might have to pick this one up as well.
Make it bigger like the 24 oz. one and add a lid, and maybe a matching nesting cup.
FYI, the Ultra Press Ti fits nicely inside of the Snow Peak Ti coffee press. Wrap a quarter folded bandana around the ultra before sliding in the coffee press for a snug fit (and to have a pre filter). The plunger on the metric and imperial calibrated coffee press disassembles - use the top for a lid. Go ahead and brainstorm the possibilities from here. (Also, the Snow Peak is a little bit more stable on a stove.)
I received mine recently and was bummed to find out that the outer shell is too narrow for the MSR Pocket Rocket2. However I picked up the Soto Windmaster and it works like a charm as the pot rests come further into the center when they are collapsed. It does make me a little nervous when it hits that boil. The great thing is the stove, igniter, sponge and cloth will all nest inside of the grayl for carry. Just not the fuel canister. Though there are some alcohol stoves that will fit with fuel for a self contained system, so long as they are narrower than 2.4".
@ 4:30 IMHO the additional D-ring is ridiculous - if your are high above your water source, just attach some paracord around the body and through the butterfly handles - the pull cord starts exactly where the D-ring sits.
thanks for the video info on this, id bought this 5 min on their site because of your review, thank you....
Glad I could help
I don’t know why the internals needed to be titanium. A better idea would be a titanium nesting cup and lid for both sizes of grail.
Looks amazing!!!
Nice idea, a friction lid or screw on like you mentioned is more practical. Needs to be offered in a larger size then I would definitely purchase. Thank you
Threads on the bottom would get carboned up on a fire BUT they could make a silicone lid like snowpeak. Grayl’s could press fit on the bottom when the filter was in the top
I could be wrong but isn’t it problematic to put your purified water back in the outer part where the dirty water is? I mean yes you boil it but it’s so tall that there might be some dirty leftovers at the top?
I would like to know if I will be able to separately purchase a titanium outer sleeve for my current GeoPress? Hope so.
Not sure 🤔
I had the grayl tbh its just dead weight, and after a month or two of use its al;ready needing replacing, the lifestraw filter 4000 liters, and its free pocket weight.
can the outer body dent, and thus not able to slide the filtering part?
Dude,I just got a grayl,took it camping a few weeks ago, I love it an now this,this one looks amazing, dang it's 100.00 but I can see myself using it quite frequently an an many uses to,I think yes on a lid that unscrew from the bottom or what not but definitely one that clicks on it like the camp cups ,I love the graphics on the outer bottle too.
Great video keep them coming!
They better have it for the geopress. I have a major unquenchable thirst 🤣 but yeah honestly I just want to replace my stainless bottle kits with this. Cool cool!
I hope so too.
Nice! Love my Geo press. Could run a line from that D ring to a branch to keep from spilling too.
Regular cup is 89$ that's a pretty gnarly price but it's needs a nesting cup for cooking that's like another 30$ (Amazon titanium cup) doesn't take much more space but will add a little weight or you can spend 200$ get the same thing but now you don't need a nest save a little weight and one less object to carry but I feel nesting is so efficient it didn't really need a replacement I like the idea of fishing water out if you can't physically get there but I can do that already with my nesting cup. Same with not touching water to refill. And it feels like my nest cup adds protection and if it gets slightly dented it is almost 5 times cheaper to replace. Over all though it's a awesome 2 in 1 design but I'll carry my 2 cups unless there's a decent price drop for this style then maybe il consider it.
I have the Titan grayl ultrapress & i love it
Some hopefully helpful Grayl tips. Add a fine film of food grade silicone paste to the main O-ring. That alone made mine 10x easier to press which is one of the few complaints with the Grayl. They sell food grade silicone in tiny tubes that will last years. It is often used on scuba equipment. For situations where you can't apply full body weight from above try leaning back and pressing it into your chest with both hands. I don't get leaks once the main O-ring is initially seated into the outer cup. Also, the Ti comes with a fine mesh outer bag. It will have some degree of pre-filter capability but of course nothing like 100 microns.
Thanks for the tips!!
You can lube the o ring with Chapstick as well, in a pinch.
Someone seriously needs to make a 3rd party titanium outer sleeve so we can buy a plastic grayl and a cheap titanium outer. 😊
That would be awesome.
I’m already invested into the OG one and I love it.
Nice!!
I do like TI version but titanium is very soft by the nature I do have few different ones and they look great as they are new but after while they just get dented damaged and they look ugly , unfortunately
It seems like a great design but they're quite heavy (12.5 or 16oz) and bulky compared to say, a platypus bladder and a quick draw micro filter (3.3 oz)
Also, what happens if it freezes? Does the plastic container crack easily when it gets really cold...how about the filter?
This seems like a car camping solution but not ideally suited to backcountry hikers.
Ive been considering getting this filter but i had a question. I do a lot of camping in the winter and having a bottle that I can put hot water into and throw into my sleeping bag is essential for staying warm on cold nights. Is it possible to utilize the inner press bottle without the filter for this purpose?
What do you do with the inner bottle when you're boiling in the outer? Seems like you just have to set the filter down in the dirt...
Or on a rock or back in your pack??
@@gideonstactical 7:37 looks like you set it in the dirt. I've never used a grayl before so idk how wet the filter end is. Was thinking about the possibility of getting the inside of my pack wet. Also don't know how problematic it might be if it fell over and some grit got stuck to the outside of the inner bottle. Would it get stuck between the outer wall when going back together and could that cause problems?
Try using a nesting cup
I has extremely excited when I first heard about this. However I was very disappointed when I found out the titanium model was only available for the small version and not the full size geopress. Second the lack of a lid is a hudge fail, I don't know what they were thinking. So for now I have zero use for it. I will stick with my old geopress matched with the New Pathfinder cup which I absolutely love.
Ultra press is king for its size tho I didn't want to lug around an overly sized bottle when I'm trying to keep my kit to a minimum
I have both systems, the geopress and pathfinder cup and also the titanium ultrapress and I love them both....I carry the titanium when I want to go ultralight and the size is no problem, as for the lid, I found the PERFECT silicone lid that fits it perfectly. I have a water bottle and coffee cup combo from the British company called cupple and the lid from the cup fits the titanium ultrapress like it was made for it, it sits in it loosely enough to be lifted easily if boiling or cooking, but also allows me to drink hot beverages without burning my lip, and the holes in the lid allow steam to vent when boiling, I ordered another lid from their website because they upgraded to a molded plastic lid that fit the cup better, so I use the original silicone lid as a dedicated lid for my grayl....I don't think they make that version any longer though.
Would I be able to press it in a canoe? Considering this for boundry waters but worried about how much pressure to press it.
I don’t canoe much, it does take some pressure
So will the ultrapress filter work on this for replacement or is it different size. I love my new ultrapress grayl,used it for first time several weeks ago at camp an love it,I really the uses of this new grayl,probably go broke,lol getting everyone in my family one.
Ya same size as the original ultrapress filters 👍
@@gideonstactical ,ah ok kool,yeah I showed my buddy your video last night, I'm loving this one too
@@gideonstactical ,I like it,it's solid
That is awesome it does some much with just one piece of kit
Ya it’s nuts!
Great video ! I definitely want one now
Just a question, you filter your water, then separate the clean filtered water by puling the filter from the bottom portion. the bottom portion is contaminated because you scooped the nasty water with it. is it safe to put your clean water back in the bottom or the cup portion of the filter to make your clean favorite drink?
Any updates at all yet? I would love to see a 24oz or larger but CS told me thats why they have the other version lol...and no plans for a larger size yet.
Will the pathfinder nesting cup fit on the titanium grayle?
It will be a little small and bounce around a lot.
The only problem I have with these are the filter lifespans. Only 150 liters. As a prepper I rather use an msr product, particularly my trailshot for 2k liters.
I'll wait for the update on the lid and possibly width. One and done ✔️
Thanks for this review!
I’m wanting to guy some fun/useful items for my sister and her husband for camping. What else would you recommend. In the UK so not in any crazy climates.
Form factor is too small, should have built it on their larger design, stability issues, you could buy a regular Grail, and a Titanium cook pot, and half to cost.
Well not half the cost, maybe $50 less but you are right. That’s where the stream line capabilities come in.
@Mike Cohen is right. Its not designed for prime time. Too small to be stable, under capacity and too much for the cost. The streamline thing is overblown because the Ti cylinder is too tall to vs width. Classic case of nothing beats a proper pot.
If you're thinking of doing another review (after using it more), can you please consider testing how it holds up after being dropped? With a dent, I think it will make it impossible to press down to filter
And, would you be able to replace the cup if it did dent and you couldn't press with it. As of now, it did not see it sold that way on the site. Might be one of those, contact customer service situations if it did happen 🤷🏻♂
even if you can push down, the whole system relies on the seal between the bottle and the shell, which is compromised with the smallest dent in either. Plus warping after multiple rounds of heating. Im not sure this solution is as sustainable as it advertises.
i like it. my questions - what is the chance of re-contaminating the water when pouring it from the filtered container back into the titan one. isn't probably not a big deal but something to consider. also - would it be a problem to clean it in the field after using it as a (instant) coffee mug - or would using it as a filter right after using it as a coffee mug not be an issue at all? and lastly - what was it with the electrolyte thing? totally lost me there.
They added a one way valve so it won’t harm the filter if you use other beverages than water
I like the stove.
I think this thing is awesome! The only concern I have is if you dent it, even slightly, it probably doesn't filter water anymore. Also... if it warps from being heated, is that also going to hinder filtration?
This thing is amazing!
So you fill the outer container with dirty water, filter it, then take out the pure water and pour the pure into the dirty outer container to boil?
I'm waiting for the geopress ti. Hopefully enough people buy the ultra ti that they decide to make it.
Thanks for the review, I have picked one up and very happy with it. One question is that while I’m boiling the water if there was a cap on it that could go in the fire that certainly would allow the water to boil more quickly. Any thoughts on what would make a nice durable cap? I could always use a piece of aluminum, but anything more durable on your mind? Thank you.
Not that I know of any, only looking on Amazon for some lid off another cook set??
I would like to see Grayl release a version where you can boil water and after a few seconds or a few minutes you are able to use the water filter without damaging the filter. I imagine technology like this is a long way off though. Would be good for urban environments in minor flooding situations.
The beauty of the Grayl is that it’s a purifier down to virus size too. There’s no real need to boil before you filter.
@@stalwart263 Grayl said that for seriously infected water such as flood water it would be best to boil and the filter or filter than boil as they can't guarantee filtered flood water will be safe to drink. Obviously flood water isn't what you should be drinking but if you're caught up in a flood and cut off from help for an extended period of time, including supply from aid workers/organisations, you have to do what you have to do. I myself am not to concerned with the typical survival in the woods type things (whilst good to know) I'm more concerned with urban survival in a SHTF or natural disaster as I live in an urban environment and never go into the bush.
Yes I'd definitely agree with you there,maybe we'll see this in a few years, who knows
You should just get yourself 2, then pour them back and forth until it cools which would only take a few minutes. Then fill and boil the other one and by the time you're thirsty again, that one would be cooled
Best solution for that is to use a nesting cup. Honestly it's the perfect set and isn't that big of a burden to justify this new titanium cup.
Grayl your gonna make me go broke! Lol... You could use Hot lips for the bottom after boiling water. I own the geopress and it works great but i love this idea. Nice breakdown man thanks! Stay safe! Hike on!
All I care about is the water purification of this product! Does it work or not, am I going to get sick or not when I drink water from a stream, creek, river, lake, mud puddle, or other dirty tributaries that might need to be used for a water source! ???
Great idea, but a few negatives. $199 is too rich for most people. And no option for the Geopress 24oz. If this was $125, and 24oz. maybe.
Would be nice if they came out with a 32oz bottle instead of just 16 and 24oz. Although it probably would be quite a bit larger than a normal 32oz bottle.
Totally agree with you on that one
Good review.
at 200 bucks for a bottle is a major hold back for many
How many litres can one filter filtrate before it becomes useless? And, far more importantly, how do you know when the filter has reached the end of its life before you start poisoing yourself by continuing to use it? Thank you
Has anyone heard of the anodized aluminum MKettle? I think it's lighter than this. It's cool piece of gear for boiling water check it out.
No I need to check it out.
From what I have heard, there does not exist a filter that is capable of taking all contaminants out of water and it is wise to boil first, then filter. This set up would allow one to boil, then filter for safest results.
Does the filter hold much water after being used?
16oz
I do like your lid design. This should be added!
Only a 1L version would work for me. Some great features put into this version.
Thank you for this review
They need to make a 32-40 oz version
G'day Aaron, great to see a company not resting on their laurels. A couple of points though;
Since its already a purification unit you only need to make water hot for drinking coffee, tea, soup.
And for meals, I find a tall narrow vessel to be a pain in the backside.
So, ..... if one carries something else to cook food, that mug/pot can boil water too.
Only real benefit of this version IMO is you can cook in another container and boil water at the same time on an open fire; though with a bottle/mug combo and a "standard" Grayl for purification you can do that anyway
Just my 2 cents mate, I reckon it will suit many folks MO, thanks for showing it . Cheers Duke.
Is there liquid water on Antarctica?
Hey guys, does this fit in a bicycle water bottle holder?… And does it fit on my BSR titanium stove?
Yes its fits
Thanks for the review, Aaron. Does the Grayl fit in the good ole Stanley Cook Pot?
I want one really bad just the price is crazy, it's worth it just expensive
If you had to lower the bottle to fill it - couldn’t you just tie the rope to the handles? That tab seems unnecessary
You couldn’t use the handles to attach paracord and fish water? That’s weird lol
Going to be a sad day after one dent or the shape warps during heating :/
This would totally be a viable option if I lived in almost any other country than the US
Absolutely
The 200.00 price, will be a deal killer for most people. The wait will be another. That thing is really heavy for an ultra lighter. So price and weight just removed this from most hikers list. So who was this marketed for? PS just one dent or any warping you got a 200.00 paperweight! :(
Aaron, thanks for all of your reviews and videos. I think Grayl had a good idea on this, but should have made options other than only 24oz. Unfortunately that is far to small to be really useful to me as a camping or hiking water filter. A 40oz option or larger would have been a more useful alternative. Hopefully they’ll make something larger in the future.
Yes this is good for ultralight trip and those counting every ounce. The Geopress with the same features will be excellent
this is so new, it's not even on the European grayl site, yet.
(Sigh)… Well… there goes my money! 👍🏼
Great review. Its a very nice piece of kit for sure. Ive owned the geo press for quite a few years now with zero complaints. Maybe a future purchase for me...
This thing doesnt filter water well. I used portapotty water and got sick.
Hahaha
They need to just release a stainless steel version that is half the price
I have 2 of the 24oz Grayl Geopress filters and am very impressed with their performance.
Yes, they are expensive, but considering the ease of use AND that they filter out even viruses they are my go-to water filters.
I was initially very interested in buying their titanium filter (I have replaced all of my s.s. cups and pots with titanium), but $200.00 for the 16.9oz version is too expensive.
Now if they would offer the titanium cups for the original 24oz. Geopress, I would buy 2!
I bought one of these on Amazon today for 40 dollars off. Paid $159 instead of $199
Very nice
I have 24 Oz maroon red with orange ,I love it,awesome peice of gear in my buyout bag,was worth every penny, tried it a few ago at camp an it worked beautifully, no regrets, so dang,I'm about to pull the trigger on this new one,when available an make my buddy jealous seeing how he should an talked me into one for wste purification on the first place an it was a grest idea,he my collapse or faint when I tell him the price but then again for the quality, I think he'll be down for it
Confused as to the need to filter water you just boiled.
You don’t. This allows you to filter your water while you’re on the go then when you get to camp, boil your water for your dehydrated meals or coffee. Instead of having to bring a secondary titanium mug, taking out more space and more weight.
$200 bucks us crazy!
Crazy good 👍
!!!!!!!!! $200.00 FKN DOLLARS !!!!!!! SCREW THAT! I’ll take the pathfinder nesting cup…..$100.00 MORE FOR A TITANIUM CUP!!! DO THEY SEND SOME VASALINE WITH IT…..WOWY…..THX GRAYL….