Question of the Day 💡What do you think about the Grayl UltraPress? Let us know! * Check out the Ultrapress Filtered Water Bottle HERE 👉 bit.ly/3lE2Y0w (grayl.com)
I have a grayl and absolutely love it. It really shines as a tool for day hiking allowing you easily fill up with water at every source you come across. Much better than carrying 5-6 hours worth of water from the start!
This guy brings an extra container and really sits there pressing this thing lol while someone like me scoops and hangs my setup in a tree while I have a snack and remove everything that will harm me. Sawyer Squeeze for the win. Can also be cleaned. Don’t be stupid.
This guy is supposed to be a guru? Didn’t mention anything about the media it uses and didn’t tear it apart or stress test it with cloudy or turbid water. What a sham.
I used one on a 4 day float on the Missouri, which specifically states to bring your own water because the river water isn't potable. So many cows poop in it, not to mention the herbicides, fertilizers, etc. from farming and ranching. I used the Grayl and it worked pretty well. The filtered water was clear and tasted good. I bought a replacement filter after putting only 4 gallons through the first one. The filter slowed down toward the end because the river water truly was nasty and dirty.
Thanks for sharing! One thought is that it might have clogged quickly due to the presence of suspended solids and/ or sediment. If the eater is brown, it indicates lots of this. A quick fix to extend the life of filters would be to first filter through a shirt or other cloth to remove the larger particles that clog the Grayl filter 🙂
There is a larger version of this bottle with nearly double of the total water purifying capacity before needing a new filter which is far better value for money if you plan to use water cleaning heavily during travel, whatever hike or international, the difference in filter prices between filters for UltraPress and larger GeoPress are negligible despite the huge gap in the amount of (claimed) total purified water. As for claims of other producers which often did not provide the same level of water purification (filter with smaller holes or more filtering layers likely gets clogged faster if other parameters are the same), these claims are likely just false advertising, as many companies whose systems have often much smaller filters tends to claim a much higher total amount of filtered/purified water before the need for filter replacement, likely hoping that nobody will ever put their products into any kind of longevity test, as you really should replace these filters after the end of hiking season each year anyway, especially if they cannot be backflushed because stuff trapped inside start decomposing and further clogging filter with the growth of various nasty stuff. Thus also the claims from Grayl about using the same filter for 3 years are rather questionable even with some kind of boiled water treatment to somewhat disinfect already used filters. Use of leftover water filters from the previous year that may or may not work as intended should be similarly to used condoms reserved for people you are trying to get rid of without making local police too much suspicious about you... Anyway, it would be nice if you test some of these highly portable systems with overly optimistic filter lifespans if they can approach anywhere near their claimed amount of total cleaned water. My intuition tells me... NO WAY. Perhaps you will strike a nice viral video and a bunch of new subscribers from hiking, prepping, and military-oriented community which tend to care if their equipment will keep them alive even if things did not go according to plan...
Thanks for your awesome comment! Great info. Happy to let you know we'll be putting together a big hiking/ backcountry/ travel filters project and video this summer! So stay tuned for that
Great review! As an immunocompromised person, I have been looking for a water filtration system for hiking that filters viruses, and Grayl is the only one I have found so far. Do you find that to be true? TIA
@@waterfilterguruis that safe, even when it’s not technically time to replace the filter? Honestly, I bought it just because our tap water is nasty and I’d rather just simply have the cleanest water I can. This question raised a red flag for me because I could be doing myself more harm than good. Curious on your thoughts on the fact that we are just centralizing bacteria/possible viruses in a tiny bottle attached to the end of what I’d be drinking from everyday.
@theinterstellarcollection this would be overkill for tap water. Tap water is treated so, in most cases, there is not risk of microbiological contaminants. If you will be filtering tap water, I'd recommend something else like the Clearly Filtered bottle filter geni.us/eo1oEIs which is capable of reducing common contaminants found in treated tap water
@@smellybearc7411 I’m hoping I’m wrong, as I have zero knowledge in regards to filters. I don’t want to spread false information but it’s definitely something I’ve thought of.
Great video, and I agree with you. But I don't see Grayl as a water filter but as a water purifier. I use both the Grayl and the Lifestraw with 2-stage filters. I like to minimize the risk of chemicals in my water - and like a neutral taste.
You can extend your Grayl filter by pre filtering your water before using the Grayl. It is slower process but will extend your filter. Great option if your in a survival or bushcrafter.
Great callout! This is absolutely correct. If you pre-filter to get rid of as much sediment as you can, you will extend the life of the filter cartridge. This is especially important if you are going to be filtering water that isn't clear to begin with.
What is the best filter? I have a Sawyer and another straw type that has a carbon filter. I got the straw because it claims 5 stage when everything else is 4. My question is how do you know they do what they claim? What filter is good for chemicals I have family going to Ohio? What would you recommend if it was your family?
It all depends on the source water being filtered. Not every type of filter is suitable for every application, and there is no one size fits all solution. You can know a system does what it claims if the brand provides third-party lab testing data, or even better if the product holds and official certification from the NSF, WQA, IAPMO or similar certification body. We've done some lab testing of our own on products, but this is 'real world' testing and is neither comprehensive, nor conclusive, but still cool to see how products perform in the wild. Finally, I'd recommend the Clearly Filtered pitcher for the trip to Ohio. Bar far one of the best, and is nice and portable geni.us/VsUZHW1
Could you make a video about what's the best filter water bottle tested? Now im confused was about to get the grayl but I mostly going to use it to drink tap water internationally like Bali... What other brand would you recommend for that? thanks
Nice video, that’s really helpful! I have a a question still though. Are there any other water purifiers for hiking /camping trips out there which protect us from chemicals and heavy metals? So far this is the only one I found that does that besides protection from viruses and bacteria etc. Thanks!
I just got the Ultrapress covert in olive green in today. I haven't used it yet, but attached the filter according to the directions, and you can feel the quality in it all around. I know already it was a good investment. looking forward to hitting the woods with it!
Looking for a water bottle for my pregnant wife. Overkill isn’t in my vocabulary I’d rather be safe than sorry while traveling. Is this my best option or are there other ones that filter viruses as well? Great content probably just going to buy one of the ultra presses lol.
Having just found your channel, I find your videos informative and interesting. What is your opinion on the KataDyn Pocket filter, back in the 80s I started out with he now discontinued Pure Explorer and have switched to the KATADYN POCKET FILTER.
Hey thanks for your comment, glad to hear you're enjoying the videos. I've not tested that one, but I'll add it to my list of outdoor filters to try out. Do you use it for hiking? Camping?
@@waterfilterguru We have used the Pure Explorer, a MSR and now the KATADYN for back packing, hiking and canoe trips since the 1980s. The Katadyn has been the top-rated filter for years. However after watching your review of the Burkey with the silver impregnation, it makes me wonder as the Katadyn have boasted about their silver content.
I have been using the Grayl Geopress for a year now and I love it. MB or hiking in the Ozarks ,I fill it from running streams so I get quite some use out of the filter. A friend of mine took it overseas with questionable water ,even in the hotels .
Can you do a video on water filtration for a bug out bag when you largely have access to brackish or questionable water like SW Florida after a hurricane? It is highly likely to contain bacteria, blue-green algae, and pesticide runoffs. I see a lot of products that are designed for access to mountain streams, but we have to consider every body of water could have gators or snakes in it. Let alone possibly salt water. Also, this may be our only water source for a few days until bottled water can be brought in, if our home is destroyed.
This is a great idea! Thank you, we'll work on putting a project like this together in the future. This is a great use case, and great point you bring up.
If you check the tech specs on their product page here geni.us/0FTg you'll see they claim to reduce 99.99% of viruses, 99.9999% of bacteria, 99.9% of protozoan cysts, microplastics and PFAs. That said, I don't have any independent firsthand data to confirm these claims.
@@georgelomas2894 No hack that I know of, just hold it tight. If you are just trying to vent the bottle while pressing it, do not fully unscrew and remove the cap. Just a half twist or so to loosen it will be sufficient to let the air out.
@@waterfilterguru just from The ship I believe, I highly do doubt I'm gonna drink water at the other countries, it's Jamaica, Mexico and one other island can't remember the name
If you're just drinking water from the ship, then we can assume it's already been treated so a bottle filter that targets treated water would be better. Check out the Clearly Filtered bottle geni.us/eo1oEIs but keep in mind that one should NOT be used with untreated water that might be microbiologically unsafe
One of the better reviews on this filter. After using one since 2020, I agree whole with your thoughts except I do use it for my everyday office bottle. But that's because I already own it so I might as well use it. Very good review overall!
@@sweetbeep yes. We have tap water. There are very few filter stations. The building is older and we have had questionable water in the past. Plus it doesn't taste all that good.
@@Reuben_hikes ok thanks so much. I'm thinking about using it all day every day for months and years to filter from either tap water or the brand Crystal Geyser spring water in those plastic jugs. Do you have any thoughts about that? I travel all the time .. in my vehicle
@sweetbeep I use mine everyday unless i know where the water is coming from is clean. Not all water filter stations get cleaned. And not all municipalities have the same quality. In most places in the US the Grayl is overkill, but you never know until after the fact. It also filters out micro plastics that can develope in bottle waters. It definitely makes a difference for making your coffee taste better.
I have been using my Grayl for when I travel to other countries. Only problem I have is that the container leaks in my backpack. So I always have to pour it into another container.
Excellent review and recommendations. Bought the GeoPress a couple years ago for a back country canoe trip up here in central Canada and camped in a Northern Boreal forest region. Our water is tannin stained and by the end of a 3 day trip the filter was basically done. Read the instructions and advises against tannin stained water. Another strike at $40 CDN or more per 3 day trip. Love the concept, not the performance even in the short term. Back to the Katadyn Base Camp!
So glad you found it helpful. Yeah water high in turbidity or tannins or sediment will clog this one up in no time. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@sweetbeep Going to give it one more chance with a millbank bag, yes. Bought a replacement filter and if this doesn’t work it’s a failed experiment. Nothing one can do when the entire Northern Boreal has tannin stained water. As it is this is adding a pain-in-the-butt step but willing to see it through.
This is a purifier not just filter. The geo press is 240z. This model ithe ultra press I s the smaller at 16.9 oz. For long storage you do need press 2 to 3 Tim’s to assure a liquid is pressed out the store pull out of the container. Great handheld water purifier.
I am considering this bottle for an upcoming backpacking trip that will include Central America, Europe, and possibly SE Asia (some hiking, but nothing extreme). I like this model because I can filter water and share it with my sister so we'll only need one. My biggest question - how do you know when it's time to change the filter? Is there a bottle you recommend better for this intended purpose? Thank you!!
This is the best bottle for that use case! I'd definitely recommend bringing multiple replacement filter cartridges. A good indicator its time to replace is when it becomes noticeably harder to press
I need a good water filter for a friend who lives in Africa. He is drinking water from a swamp well. In this moment he is boiling the water before drinking. What is your recommendation? Which water filter can you recommend in order to not boil the water before drinking. Thanks!
Disinfection is vital here. It would be best to first disinfect the water before filtering, whether that continues to be through boiling or with chemical disinfection. Disinfection will protect from waterborne illness. To physically remove microbiological contaminants with physical filtration, you could look for a system that employs a ceramic filter or hollow fiber membrane.
Thanks for the video. I have one and I would choose something else if I had to purchase again. Side question, where are your field shots from in the video? It's beautiful!
Curious, what would you choose instead? What is your main use case for a portable filter like this? Most of the shots were taken at Gilpin Lake, Colorado!
@@waterfilterguru Thought it was CO! I’m out here for a few weeks and bought the Grayl purifier to hike the Black Canyon. I came to your YT for recommendations. I was getting ready to buy the Sawyer squeeze but bought the Grayl on a recommendation of the Fly shop. I dislike the empty weight and the rubber base makes it an absolute nightmare to push down into my backpack. In hindsight, I Wanted something light I can use to refill my bottles then pack away. I was hooked by the ease of use of this, but the weight and cost have me regretting the purchase. Honestly, I could get used to it if it didn’t have the rubber bottom. I hate having to empty my pack to get it back in the bottom since it won’t slide back down into its cubbyhole - the rubber grips everything.
Curious on your thoughts on using this as a dedicated tap water bottle? Here’s the thing though - I mean primarily using it in the US. I know it’s overkill, but besides that, do people just use this let’s say at their office job, in their own homes or when they travel within the US to hotels? I don’t really trust our water is as clean as it’s being told to us, so I’m wondering if this would solve that. Also, I responded earlier today to another comment regarding whether it’s concern to be centralizing bacteria/potentially viruses in a filter attached to the bottom of this water bottle that I plan on drinking from daily. Thoughts on that? I know about replacing the filter according to the directions, but I’m wondering your thoughts on the fact that we are storing this harmful stuff right there on the bottle itself. I wouldn’t want to cause more harm than good. I did see your recommendations at the end, but I’m not afraid to spend more money if it means it’s the best of the best. Since this does viruses, too (even if not necessary), that’s what brought me to it. Thanks!
This would be overkill for tap water. Tap water is treated so, in most cases, there is not risk of microbiological contaminants. If you will be filtering tap water, I'd recommend something else like the Clearly Filtered bottle filter geni.us/eo1oEIs which is capable of reducing common contaminants found in treated tap water
@@waterfilterguru thanks so much for the response. This still makes me wonder though, what’s now in the water from the treatment? This is, I’m sure, a very uneducated question I am asking, but it still makes me wonder. If there are possibilities of viruses in our tap water, then this wouldn’t be overkill. But how can we be certain? Is it really overkill if it’s not that expensive to manage (replacing as needed)? I’m also still wondering about how we centralize the bad stuff in a filter, yet we still drink from it. I know that’s crazy to say because it’s literally a filter, but it still once again makes me wonder. All i ever hear about anymore, at least in my area, is how the water is nasty. Or the water is a dirty color because of lead, etc… thanks so much for your time. I know my questions are pretty dumb but I feel you’d know best.
@@theinterstellarcollection The disinfection process at the treatment plant, typically using chlorine or chloramine chemicals, destroys/ inactivates microbiological contaminants including bacteria, viruses, and parasites. This is why you can drink the tap water in the US without getting sick immediately, like in other countries around the world. That said, there are a whole host of other inorganic and organic impurities that can be present in tap water, which pose risk with long-term consumption. Learn all about that here waterfilterguru.com/common-drinking-water-contaminants/ As for your question about pathogens building up inside the filter - yes, this would happen. However no, they should not escape out of the filter into the filtered water, as long as you are replacing the filter according to the manufacturer's instructions.
@waterfilterguru Which water purifier would you recommend? @ about the 5 minute mark you mentioned that you would prefer others over the Grayl, but didn't mentioned them. Which options would you recommend? Thanks for making such great videos. I followed your recommendations for installing a full house water conditioner at my mom's house a few months ago.
Depends on the application! Where would you be using the portable filter? Extended backpacking trip? Car camping? Emergency preparedness? Daily on the go filtration with municipally treated water? There are a few options in the description, actually.
@@waterfilterguru At the moment it'll just be used for "long" hikes, or could be considered extended backpacking trips. I'll be drinking water from lakes up in the mountains.
@@juvehe Honestly for day hiking, the Grayl bottle is awesome. I use it for day hikes. Extended backpacking you might want to consider something lighter weight, like the Sawyer micro squeeze bit.ly/3rPaf0E (rei.com)
I have used mine in Bolivia and I had diarrhea for more than 2 weeks. Ofcourse I'm not sure if it was from the water, but now I'm scared to use it again.
@@waterfilterguru not raw streetfood, but I ate fried food. Difficult to know what it was. I have planned a trip to Sri Lanka and Vietnam and not sure if I can trust the filter.
The fact that it filter viruses is a huge +, While I understand that most of the time you don't really need virus filtration in the backcountry, it simply cannot get compared to most other filtration device, it would be like comparing apple to oranges.
Great review, spot on with details. Much appreciated. Using this to go to Portugal for Camino. Fits the bill perfectly. I particularly like how it filters out more contaminants. Tap water there is not always good. Not unusual to get sick. For this it's perfect. Backpacking I have the Befree.
I prefer the new Life Straw Peak Series... I just used it on a 20 mile backpacking trip and it was awesome. It works just like a CamelBak, except you can toss water from any source into it and filter as you sip.
Hi, this is Alex from Perú, i actually work in a travel agency, and one of my passenger gave me this filter Walter as a gift, and i use this thing to drink water easily from the tap, and i was wondering if it is safe to do this. Cause i dont dont how good is this filter and if i am not perhaps getting sick for domingo this. I really apreciatte your answer. Regards
The filter should be removing microbes found in your tap water. The filter element will need to be replaced every couple of months, however. How long have you been using it? Have you replaced the filter? Are you able to get filter replacements in your country?
Great review! Bought one on sale today and going to bring it with me for hiking this summer! Got it because i wanted a pufifier, from what i read a water filter is not enough in my country because of potential viruses and heavy metals. 150L is good for a vacation and i bring a befree as a backup :-)
Always wondered this about these filtration devices. If you're dunking your hands and bottle into supposedly contaminated water, pressing down near the drinking outlet with your now contaminated hands, then storing the now contaminated bottle in your pack, isn't it all kind of futile? Especially for microbes that can exist on surfaces for hours or days. I'm imagining a survival scenario where you may not have access to hand sanitizer etc.
This is a valid concern. The drinking spout does have a waterproof cap that creates a seal. You have to crack it when pressing to allow air to escape, so it would be hard to get contaminated water up inside. That said you do raise a good point of a potential risk and why it's important to ensure you use a water filter like this properly
Sure is. I love that the pump is battery powered, and the battery can be recharged with solar panels. This allows for high production rate of hundreds of gallons a day.
Is there a specific reason not to use the grail with treated city water? I live in Detroit and we are persistently lied to about the quality of our tap water. Boil warnings are frequent and city government is not trustworthy. I need an every day filter option that I can take with me and use with city water.
There are better more capable options if you are primarily drinking treated city water while not under a boil water advisory. Basically you don't need a filter which reduces bacteria if you are filtering water that's already been disinfected as that would be redundant. It might be more prudent to invest in a system that's more capable of dealing with contaminants found in treated city water with a higher capacity
You forgot one important information, this one also filters viruses (0,02ym). I'm not sure if the others you recommend do as well, at least I could not find any hint. The Sawyer does defenitely not.
Great callout. The MSR Guardian we recently tested th-cam.com/video/Dz9uysZ93XU/w-d-xo.html also has a 0.02 micron pore size, but it does not have the additional filtration media capable of reducing chemical contaminants like the Grayl does
@sweetbeep the grayl is better and I think it has charcoal in the filter to filter out some chemicals. If I was going to unknown areas I'd get the grayl. I hike mostly in Maine so the Katadyn is good to go. A small issue with the katadyn filter is if there is water in it and it's freezes, it will break. I'm not sure about the grayl. Good luck on your journeys.
Got one for $75. It's bulky and a little heavy. Provides about a cup of water. I bought this to travel to Medida Yucatan. I like the Portawell for a disaster.
I carry one in my backpack when I go ride my motorbike offroad because I've been caught out before and had to drink river water. We were fine but now I carry it with me on rides.
While not certified, they are independently tested by a certified laboratory to meet or exceed NSF/ANSI protocol 42 and 53 for pathogen and chemical removal; meets the the United States Environmental Protection Agency's Guide Standard and Protocol for testing microbiological water purifiers
Thanks for the request! Well noted, and we will be sure to do so!
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Protip: When do you know it's time to change the filter? By blowing air in to it. I found this earlier when I was attempting to make it dry faster. When you have a new filter, you hardly can get any air through. I was using Geopress daily for several months in a base camp. Tip not based on actual science. 👨🔬
Do you know of a water filter system that removes that 0.001 % of whatever all these filter systems can't seem to remove? If they could hook up with all these other systems, or just 1 other system, you'd be swinging for the fence with every swallow!!
For me these are useless. Actually if you live in the uk it is pretty much useless. You cant use them with bleaches/chemicals so tap water and river water no good. You cant use them with salt water so thats also a no for saline rivers (salt mix). Also, you cant use them in peaty water which rules out any hill rivers and lochs/lakes in much of the Uk and basically all of Scotland. In fact, if it isn’t glacial water you probably can’t use the press on it. I was just travelling the john muir way and stopped by a stream to top up my 4 small water bottles and the first was nearly clear and by the fourth it was dirt brown. If you see that, your filter has been destroyed by the tannins. Much better off with a paper type filter and replacing it when needed as these don’t become ’broken’ by the water. Ive told their marketing to tell the truth but they just rephrase everything i say back to me as if im a one off case. Its the water, not me. Their statement is this, ‘GRAYL… make clean drinking water anywhere on earth!’. Well, that’s just bull. Overpriced and broken by Scottish hill water in its first use. Feeling VERY ripped off. P.s. Grayl consider their ‘instruction manual’ (that you presumably read after purchase) to be their disclaimer so 2 things- read it, then send your Grayl back to the reseller. Bear in mind, they don’t refer to peaty water etc, they refer to tannins, so watch carefully because if you get poisoned, they will just place blame on you for not properly reading their instructions. No good if you are stuck miles from a healthy water source. Fortunately, peaty water is actually healthy for you. You just gotta be careful that an animal didn’t die in the water upstream.
Question of the Day 💡What do you think about the Grayl UltraPress? Let us know! * Check out the Ultrapress Filtered Water Bottle HERE 👉 bit.ly/3lE2Y0w (grayl.com)
So is this basically the original Ultralight with a sport cap? So if I buy a replacement cap will it fit the OG bottle?
@@stevejackson9952 Honestly I'm not sure, I would reach out to Grayl with this question
I have a grayl and absolutely love it. It really shines as a tool for day hiking allowing you easily fill up with water at every source you come across. Much better than carrying 5-6 hours worth of water from the start!
🙌 right on! I love mine for day hiking too, it's just so convenient when you know you'll have a water source available to easily fill up
This guy brings an extra container and really sits there pressing this thing lol while someone like me scoops and hangs my setup in a tree while I have a snack and remove everything that will harm me. Sawyer Squeeze for the win. Can also be cleaned. Don’t be stupid.
Also you'll want to pre-filter with a cloth you don't want to clog this filter with sediment
Great call out!
@@waterfiltergurupre filter is an absolute must. This purifier clogs very easily and is not really recommended for hiking it’s more for traveling imo
This guy is supposed to be a guru? Didn’t mention anything about the media it uses and didn’t tear it apart or stress test it with cloudy or turbid water. What a sham.
New subscriber here, I have been using a Grayl for over a year now. I love it, works as advertised!
Thanks for subbing and thanks for sharing your experience!
I used one on a 4 day float on the Missouri, which specifically states to bring your own water because the river water isn't potable. So many cows poop in it, not to mention the herbicides, fertilizers, etc. from farming and ranching. I used the Grayl and it worked pretty well. The filtered water was clear and tasted good. I bought a replacement filter after putting only 4 gallons through the first one. The filter slowed down toward the end because the river water truly was nasty and dirty.
Thanks for sharing! One thought is that it might have clogged quickly due to the presence of suspended solids and/ or sediment. If the eater is brown, it indicates lots of this. A quick fix to extend the life of filters would be to first filter through a shirt or other cloth to remove the larger particles that clog the Grayl filter 🙂
@@waterfilterguru I definitely abused it.
A filter is cheaper than a doctors visit.
@@GTFBITKor an hospital stay, not to mention the antibiotics and other meds. The grayl geo press is awesome.
There is a larger version of this bottle with nearly double of the total water purifying capacity before needing a new filter which is far better value for money if you plan to use water cleaning heavily during travel, whatever hike or international, the difference in filter prices between filters for UltraPress and larger GeoPress are negligible despite the huge gap in the amount of (claimed) total purified water. As for claims of other producers which often did not provide the same level of water purification (filter with smaller holes or more filtering layers likely gets clogged faster if other parameters are the same), these claims are likely just false advertising, as many companies whose systems have often much smaller filters tends to claim a much higher total amount of filtered/purified water before the need for filter replacement, likely hoping that nobody will ever put their products into any kind of longevity test, as you really should replace these filters after the end of hiking season each year anyway, especially if they cannot be backflushed because stuff trapped inside start decomposing and further clogging filter with the growth of various nasty stuff. Thus also the claims from Grayl about using the same filter for 3 years are rather questionable even with some kind of boiled water treatment to somewhat disinfect already used filters. Use of leftover water filters from the previous year that may or may not work as intended should be similarly to used condoms reserved for people you are trying to get rid of without making local police too much suspicious about you...
Anyway, it would be nice if you test some of these highly portable systems with overly optimistic filter lifespans if they can approach anywhere near their claimed amount of total cleaned water. My intuition tells me... NO WAY.
Perhaps you will strike a nice viral video and a bunch of new subscribers from hiking, prepping, and military-oriented community which tend to care if their equipment will keep them alive even if things did not go according to plan...
Thanks for your awesome comment! Great info. Happy to let you know we'll be putting together a big hiking/ backcountry/ travel filters project and video this summer! So stay tuned for that
wow. u know what u are talking about.. what bottle filter would u suggest best?
Love my Grayl utrapress and take it on all my travels. Have travelled through Peru and Cuba with it - I use it to purify dodgy tap water.
Thanks for sharing! This is a great use case. I've used mine in Mexico!
Great review! As an immunocompromised person, I have been looking for a water filtration system for hiking that filters viruses, and Grayl is the only one I have found so far. Do you find that to be true? TIA
The MSR Guardian does geni.us/Yv6IZmj
Which one is recommended between Graly Geopress and MSR water purify? Thanks in advance.
What is your primary use case? Single or multi-day trips outdoors? International travel? Emergency preparedness? Something else?
What happens to viruses and bacteria after its filtered does it just hang out in the filter or what ?
Yes, which is why it's so important to replace the filter according to the manufacturer's instructions
@@waterfilterguruis that safe, even when it’s not technically time to replace the filter? Honestly, I bought it just because our tap water is nasty and I’d rather just simply have the cleanest water I can. This question raised a red flag for me because I could be doing myself more harm than good. Curious on your thoughts on the fact that we are just centralizing bacteria/possible viruses in a tiny bottle attached to the end of what I’d be drinking from everyday.
@theinterstellarcollection this would be overkill for tap water. Tap water is treated so, in most cases, there is not risk of microbiological contaminants. If you will be filtering tap water, I'd recommend something else like the Clearly Filtered bottle filter geni.us/eo1oEIs which is capable of reducing common contaminants found in treated tap water
@@theinterstellarcollectionGood point. And the same problem may be present in other portable filters. I guess boiling water is still the king
@@smellybearc7411 I’m hoping I’m wrong, as I have zero knowledge in regards to filters. I don’t want to spread false information but it’s definitely something I’ve thought of.
Have you compared this to the LifeStraw filter?
Not yet, but we will do that this summer!
Great video, and I agree with you. But I don't see Grayl as a water filter but as a water purifier. I use both the Grayl and the Lifestraw with 2-stage filters. I like to minimize the risk of chemicals in my water - and like a neutral taste.
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it.
Do these help with heavy metals?? What are some good water bottles that remove lead, cobalt, chlorine, and plastics.
The powdered activated carbon (PAC) media in the filter should be capable of reducing some heavy metals.
Thank you for your honest feedback/ review
Thanks for watching!
Great video, very detailed and covers lots of aspects I hadn’t considered. Thank you
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment
All the reviews on this bottle boast this bottle is the greatest. but once th bs removed it's not as great as the youtubers suggest
You can extend your Grayl filter by pre filtering your water before using the Grayl. It is slower process but will extend your filter. Great option if your in a survival or bushcrafter.
Great callout! This is absolutely correct. If you pre-filter to get rid of as much sediment as you can, you will extend the life of the filter cartridge. This is especially important if you are going to be filtering water that isn't clear to begin with.
What is the best filter? I have a Sawyer and another straw type that has a carbon filter.
I got the straw because it claims 5 stage when everything else is 4.
My question is how do you know they do what they claim?
What filter is good for chemicals I have family going to Ohio? What would you recommend if it was your family?
It all depends on the source water being filtered. Not every type of filter is suitable for every application, and there is no one size fits all solution.
You can know a system does what it claims if the brand provides third-party lab testing data, or even better if the product holds and official certification from the NSF, WQA, IAPMO or similar certification body. We've done some lab testing of our own on products, but this is 'real world' testing and is neither comprehensive, nor conclusive, but still cool to see how products perform in the wild.
Finally, I'd recommend the Clearly Filtered pitcher for the trip to Ohio. Bar far one of the best, and is nice and portable geni.us/VsUZHW1
@@waterfilterguru thank you for the reply and the help
@@richardhenry1969 Sure thing! Let us know if you have any more questions
There’s a fantastic TH-cam series by @GearSceptic about different filter types and what all the numbers mean.
@@seankelleher4222 hey thanks that is a amazing study he has done. I’ve still got 2 more videos to watch.
Could you make a video about what's the best filter water bottle tested? Now im confused was about to get the grayl but I mostly going to use it to drink tap water internationally like Bali... What other brand would you recommend for that? thanks
Thanks for the request! I've got this on my to-do list.
Is the tap water in Bali treated?
Nice video, that’s really helpful! I have a a question still though. Are there any other water purifiers for hiking /camping trips out there which protect us from chemicals and heavy metals? So far this is the only one I found that does that besides protection from viruses and bacteria etc. Thanks!
The Grayl is the best I've come accross!
I just got the Ultrapress covert in olive green in today. I haven't used it yet, but attached the filter according to the directions, and you can feel the quality in it all around. I know already it was a good investment. looking forward to hitting the woods with it!
Right on!
Looking for a water bottle for my pregnant wife. Overkill isn’t in my vocabulary I’d rather be safe than sorry while traveling. Is this my best option or are there other ones that filter viruses as well? Great content probably just going to buy one of the ultra presses lol.
This is your best bet, just make sure to get plenty of replacement filters
@@waterfilterguru thanks so much!
Having just found your channel, I find your videos informative and interesting. What is your opinion on the KataDyn Pocket filter, back in the 80s I started out with he now discontinued Pure Explorer and have switched to the KATADYN POCKET FILTER.
Hey thanks for your comment, glad to hear you're enjoying the videos. I've not tested that one, but I'll add it to my list of outdoor filters to try out. Do you use it for hiking? Camping?
@@waterfilterguru We have used the Pure Explorer, a MSR and now the KATADYN for back packing, hiking and canoe trips since the 1980s. The Katadyn has been the top-rated filter for years. However after watching your review of the Burkey with the silver impregnation, it makes me wonder as the Katadyn have boasted about their silver content.
I have been using the Grayl Geopress for a year now and I love it. MB or hiking in the Ozarks ,I fill it from running streams so I get quite some use out of the filter. A friend of mine took it overseas with questionable water ,even in the hotels .
Love to hear about it! I use mine for day hikes all the time - it's just so convenient when you know you'll be near a water source
Can you do a video on water filtration for a bug out bag when you largely have access to brackish or questionable water like SW Florida after a hurricane? It is highly likely to contain bacteria, blue-green algae, and pesticide runoffs. I see a lot of products that are designed for access to mountain streams, but we have to consider every body of water could have gators or snakes in it. Let alone possibly salt water. Also, this may be our only water source for a few days until bottled water can be brought in, if our home is destroyed.
This is a great idea! Thank you, we'll work on putting a project like this together in the future. This is a great use case, and great point you bring up.
Warning: Grayl isn't designed to handle cyanobacteria!
What is your opinion on the Sawyer water filters?
Great, portable filters to make water microbiologically safe!
I just purchased the GRAYL Geopress. I plan to take it kayak camping this year based on others' positive useage.
Right on, I'd love to hear what you think about it after you use it
how do you know it is time to replace the filter? there is no way i will keep a log book :)
When it becomes noticeably harder to press
I just ordered one Grayl. I was hoping in filtered out microplastics and viruses and bacteria along with the forever particles. Yes?
If you check the tech specs on their product page here geni.us/0FTg you'll see they claim to reduce 99.99% of viruses, 99.9999% of bacteria, 99.9% of protozoan cysts, microplastics and PFAs. That said, I don't have any independent firsthand data to confirm these claims.
Any diy or hack to make sure we don't drop the cap. Thanks.
Which cap? The main lid, or the drinking spout cap?
@@waterfilterguru the drinking spout part.
@@georgelomas2894 No hack that I know of, just hold it tight.
If you are just trying to vent the bottle while pressing it, do not fully unscrew and remove the cap. Just a half twist or so to loosen it will be sufficient to let the air out.
Should I get something different for cruise ships or is the personal water filter by American Red Cross good enough?
Will you be filtering the water just from the ship? Or from the places you disembark as well?
@@waterfilterguru just from The ship I believe, I highly do doubt I'm gonna drink water at the other countries, it's Jamaica, Mexico and one other island can't remember the name
If you're just drinking water from the ship, then we can assume it's already been treated so a bottle filter that targets treated water would be better. Check out the Clearly Filtered bottle geni.us/eo1oEIs but keep in mind that one should NOT be used with untreated water that might be microbiologically unsafe
One of the better reviews on this filter. After using one since 2020, I agree whole with your thoughts except I do use it for my everyday office bottle. But that's because I already own it so I might as well use it. Very good review overall!
Thanks for the feedback. Really appreciate it!
Can I ask, is that because there is no purified water at your office?
@@sweetbeep yes. We have tap water. There are very few filter stations. The building is older and we have had questionable water in the past. Plus it doesn't taste all that good.
@@Reuben_hikes ok thanks so much. I'm thinking about using it all day every day for months and years to filter from either tap water or the brand Crystal Geyser spring water in those plastic jugs. Do you have any thoughts about that? I travel all the time .. in my vehicle
@sweetbeep I use mine everyday unless i know where the water is coming from is clean. Not all water filter stations get cleaned. And not all municipalities have the same quality. In most places in the US the Grayl is overkill, but you never know until after the fact. It also filters out micro plastics that can develope in bottle waters. It definitely makes a difference for making your coffee taste better.
I have been using my Grayl for when I travel to other countries. Only problem I have is that the container leaks in my backpack. So I always have to pour it into another container.
I do that too, but so I can have a larger volume of filtered water on hand
@@waterfilterguru Yours doesn't leak?
@@bellychic8 If there is water in the unfiltered cannister, yes it will leak. It does not leak from the filtered clean water vessel.
Excellent review and recommendations. Bought the GeoPress a couple years ago for a back country canoe trip up here in central Canada and camped in a Northern Boreal forest region. Our water is tannin stained and by the end of a 3 day trip the filter was basically done. Read the instructions and advises against tannin stained water. Another strike at $40 CDN or more per 3 day trip. Love the concept, not the performance even in the short term. Back to the Katadyn Base Camp!
So glad you found it helpful. Yeah water high in turbidity or tannins or sediment will clog this one up in no time. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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Could you use a filter bag first tho?
@@sweetbeep Going to give it one more chance with a millbank bag, yes. Bought a replacement filter and if this doesn’t work it’s a failed experiment. Nothing one can do when the entire Northern Boreal has tannin stained water. As it is this is adding a pain-in-the-butt step but willing to see it through.
@@canesser1 ok good. What is the tannin from?
This is a purifier not just filter. The geo press is 240z. This model ithe ultra press I s the smaller at 16.9 oz. For long storage you do need press 2 to 3 Tim’s to assure a liquid is pressed out the store pull out of the container. Great handheld water purifier.
Agreed! It is super nice you can purge the filter and store it to be used again after a period of time. Great call out!
It is technically a purifier, but 3 log removal of protozoa and cysts isn’t actually enough to be safe if you’re drinking contaminated water
I am considering this bottle for an upcoming backpacking trip that will include Central America, Europe, and possibly SE Asia (some hiking, but nothing extreme). I like this model because I can filter water and share it with my sister so we'll only need one. My biggest question - how do you know when it's time to change the filter? Is there a bottle you recommend better for this intended purpose? Thank you!!
This is the best bottle for that use case! I'd definitely recommend bringing multiple replacement filter cartridges. A good indicator its time to replace is when it becomes noticeably harder to press
Very well done vid review! Been considering the Grayl for short term quuck use. Your review was very balanced and informative. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the feedback
I need a good water filter for a friend who lives in Africa. He is drinking water from a swamp well. In this moment he is boiling the water before drinking.
What is your recommendation? Which water filter can you recommend in order to not boil the water before drinking.
Thanks!
Disinfection is vital here. It would be best to first disinfect the water before filtering, whether that continues to be through boiling or with chemical disinfection. Disinfection will protect from waterborne illness.
To physically remove microbiological contaminants with physical filtration, you could look for a system that employs a ceramic filter or hollow fiber membrane.
@@waterfilterguru thanks!
Just wondering if it can be used to turn ocean water into drinking water????
No, it cannot remove sodium chloride (salt) from water. You would need reverse osmosis for that
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Thank you
@@cordellkent4790 Happy to help! Here is an article you might find helpful too waterfilterguru.com/how-to-remove-salt-from-water/
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Thanks. It was an interesting read.
So I could still get dissentary?
Not if it's used according to the manufacturer's instructions
Thanks for the video. I have one and I would choose something else if I had to purchase again. Side question, where are your field shots from in the video? It's beautiful!
Curious, what would you choose instead? What is your main use case for a portable filter like this?
Most of the shots were taken at Gilpin Lake, Colorado!
@@waterfilterguru Thought it was CO! I’m out here for a few weeks and bought the Grayl purifier to hike the Black Canyon. I came to your YT for recommendations. I was getting ready to buy the Sawyer squeeze but bought the Grayl on a recommendation of the Fly shop. I dislike the empty weight and the rubber base makes it an absolute nightmare to push down into my backpack. In hindsight, I Wanted something light I can use to refill my bottles then pack away. I was hooked by the ease of use of this, but the weight and cost have me regretting the purchase. Honestly, I could get used to it if it didn’t have the rubber bottom. I hate having to empty my pack to get it back in the bottom since it won’t slide back down into its cubbyhole - the rubber grips everything.
@@srt5321 Thanks for sharing! Your absolutely right, the rubber base does make it annoying to get into a backpack side pocket - too grippy!
@@waterfiltergurubut not likely to fall out in case you take a tumble.
Curious on your thoughts on using this as a dedicated tap water bottle? Here’s the thing though - I mean primarily using it in the US. I know it’s overkill, but besides that, do people just use this let’s say at their office job, in their own homes or when they travel within the US to hotels? I don’t really trust our water is as clean as it’s being told to us, so I’m wondering if this would solve that. Also, I responded earlier today to another comment regarding whether it’s concern to be centralizing bacteria/potentially viruses in a filter attached to the bottom of this water bottle that I plan on drinking from daily. Thoughts on that? I know about replacing the filter according to the directions, but I’m wondering your thoughts on the fact that we are storing this harmful stuff right there on the bottle itself. I wouldn’t want to cause more harm than good. I did see your recommendations at the end, but I’m not afraid to spend more money if it means it’s the best of the best. Since this does viruses, too (even if not necessary), that’s what brought me to it. Thanks!
This would be overkill for tap water. Tap water is treated so, in most cases, there is not risk of microbiological contaminants. If you will be filtering tap water, I'd recommend something else like the Clearly Filtered bottle filter geni.us/eo1oEIs which is capable of reducing common contaminants found in treated tap water
@@waterfilterguru thanks so much for the response. This still makes me wonder though, what’s now in the water from the treatment? This is, I’m sure, a very uneducated question I am asking, but it still makes me wonder. If there are possibilities of viruses in our tap water, then this wouldn’t be overkill. But how can we be certain? Is it really overkill if it’s not that expensive to manage (replacing as needed)? I’m also still wondering about how we centralize the bad stuff in a filter, yet we still drink from it. I know that’s crazy to say because it’s literally a filter, but it still once again makes me wonder. All i ever hear about anymore, at least in my area, is how the water is nasty. Or the water is a dirty color because of lead, etc… thanks so much for your time. I know my questions are pretty dumb but I feel you’d know best.
@@theinterstellarcollection The disinfection process at the treatment plant, typically using chlorine or chloramine chemicals, destroys/ inactivates microbiological contaminants including bacteria, viruses, and parasites. This is why you can drink the tap water in the US without getting sick immediately, like in other countries around the world.
That said, there are a whole host of other inorganic and organic impurities that can be present in tap water, which pose risk with long-term consumption. Learn all about that here waterfilterguru.com/common-drinking-water-contaminants/
As for your question about pathogens building up inside the filter - yes, this would happen. However no, they should not escape out of the filter into the filtered water, as long as you are replacing the filter according to the manufacturer's instructions.
Are you doing reviews of ones like the Sweet Water Guardian or Sawyer mini or Sawyer squeeze. Tried looking at your list and didn't notice them.
Yes, more tests of these types of filers coming this summer!
@@waterfilterguru Excellent, looking forward to them.
MSR Guardian video is live! th-cam.com/video/Dz9uysZ93XU/w-d-xo.html
@waterfilterguru Which water purifier would you recommend? @ about the 5 minute mark you mentioned that you would prefer others over the Grayl, but didn't mentioned them. Which options would you recommend? Thanks for making such great videos. I followed your recommendations for installing a full house water conditioner at my mom's house a few months ago.
Depends on the application! Where would you be using the portable filter? Extended backpacking trip? Car camping? Emergency preparedness? Daily on the go filtration with municipally treated water?
There are a few options in the description, actually.
@@waterfilterguru At the moment it'll just be used for "long" hikes, or could be considered extended backpacking trips. I'll be drinking water from lakes up in the mountains.
@@juvehe Honestly for day hiking, the Grayl bottle is awesome. I use it for day hikes. Extended backpacking you might want to consider something lighter weight, like the Sawyer micro squeeze bit.ly/3rPaf0E (rei.com)
@@waterfilterguru awesome! Thank you so much!
One question how many leaks. It can be done
GeoPress® One-Way Drink Mix
Sorry, is this a question?
I have used mine in Bolivia and I had diarrhea for more than 2 weeks. Ofcourse I'm not sure if it was from the water, but now I'm scared to use it again.
Oof thanks for sharing and sorry to hear that. Were you eating street food?
@@waterfilterguru not raw streetfood, but I ate fried food.
Difficult to know what it was.
I have planned a trip to Sri Lanka and Vietnam and not sure if I can trust the filter.
Love your content, and I would really like to see you test the Pro One filters that offer a Berkey replacement filter. Thanks
Coming soon! ProOne project is currently in the works - just waiting on the lab results!
ProOne test published! th-cam.com/video/5h87z2rA6Og/w-d-xo.html
@@waterfilterguruwow did you keep that comment starred somehow to come back to it?
@@sweetbeep Yes 😅
@@waterfilterguru wow nice. Is there a way to keep track of certain comments in TH-cam , or did you just do it on your own?
The fact that it filter viruses is a huge +, While I understand that most of the time you don't really need virus filtration in the backcountry, it simply cannot get compared to most other filtration device, it would be like comparing apple to oranges.
Yep, there are few out there capable of addressing virus in addition to other microbiological contaminants
Yes, I am looking for a filter that does everything. Sawyers are nice up in the mountains but here in the valley you never know what is in the water.
Great review, spot on with details. Much appreciated. Using this to go to Portugal for Camino. Fits the bill perfectly. I particularly like how it filters out more contaminants. Tap water there is not always good. Not unusual to get sick. For this it's perfect. Backpacking I have the Befree.
Glad it was helpful! I use mine for traveling abroad as well. Make sure to bring an extra filter cartridge!
I prefer the new Life Straw Peak Series... I just used it on a 20 mile backpacking trip and it was awesome. It works just like a CamelBak, except you can toss water from any source into it and filter as you sip.
Thanks for sharing! Love to hear about what others are using 🤙
Hi, this is Alex from Perú, i actually work in a travel agency, and one of my passenger gave me this filter Walter as a gift, and i use this thing to drink water easily from the tap, and i was wondering if it is safe to do this.
Cause i dont dont how good is this filter and if i am not perhaps getting sick for domingo this.
I really apreciatte your answer.
Regards
The filter should be removing microbes found in your tap water. The filter element will need to be replaced every couple of months, however.
How long have you been using it?
Have you replaced the filter?
Are you able to get filter replacements in your country?
@@waterfilterguruwhy would tap water have microbes in it? Don't they add chlorine and stuff to kill microbes in tap water?
@@sweetbeep Many developing countries (like Peru in this instance) lack the infrastructure to provide water disinfection
@@waterfilterguru so people drink it anyway or they boil it first?
@@sweetbeep No, they drink purified water that's provided in large jugs. Or just bottled water..
How does this work with urine?
No idea - haven't tried. Let me know how it goes haha
Great review! Bought one on sale today and going to bring it with me for hiking this summer! Got it because i wanted a pufifier, from what i read a water filter is not enough in my country because of potential viruses and heavy metals.
150L is good for a vacation and i bring a befree as a backup :-)
Right on! It's perfect for hiking. Use mine for that exact purpose 😁
Always wondered this about these filtration devices. If you're dunking your hands and bottle into supposedly contaminated water, pressing down near the drinking outlet with your now contaminated hands, then storing the now contaminated bottle in your pack, isn't it all kind of futile? Especially for microbes that can exist on surfaces for hours or days. I'm imagining a survival scenario where you may not have access to hand sanitizer etc.
This is a valid concern. The drinking spout does have a waterproof cap that creates a seal. You have to crack it when pressing to allow air to escape, so it would be hard to get contaminated water up inside. That said you do raise a good point of a potential risk and why it's important to ensure you use a water filter like this properly
Have you done a video on the "PORTA WELL" ????
Video is still pending, but I have the Portawell and love it! One of the best emergency prep systems out there
Thanks... Looking forward to it, seems like a good filter to have !@@waterfilterguru
Sure is. I love that the pump is battery powered, and the battery can be recharged with solar panels. This allows for high production rate of hundreds of gallons a day.
I LOVE my grayl, but for much need huge quantities I use a survivor pro x electric but I am not a gram weenie...kek
Yep bottle filters sure aren't the best providing large quantities of water, you're absolutely right
The big diverence is that the Grayl filter out virusses. Other small filters only do bacteria. That is why i got the Grayl. Or am i wrong?
There are many other portable filters capable of reducing viruses
What would be the best voor hiking?@@waterfilterguru
Is there a specific reason not to use the grail with treated city water? I live in Detroit and we are persistently lied to about the quality of our tap water. Boil warnings are frequent and city government is not trustworthy. I need an every day filter option that I can take with me and use with city water.
There are better more capable options if you are primarily drinking treated city water while not under a boil water advisory. Basically you don't need a filter which reduces bacteria if you are filtering water that's already been disinfected as that would be redundant. It might be more prudent to invest in a system that's more capable of dealing with contaminants found in treated city water with a higher capacity
Excellent piece of kit
Yeah it makes a great addition to a survival kit!
Thanks.
You should check out the Lifesaver filters. The Liberty and the Wayfarer. They also do Jerry Cans.
Thanks for the request! I'll add these to our list to look into
They now have 24 oz bottles
Good call out!
You forgot one important information, this one also filters viruses (0,02ym). I'm not sure if the others you recommend do as well, at least I could not find any hint. The Sawyer does defenitely not.
Great callout. The MSR Guardian we recently tested th-cam.com/video/Dz9uysZ93XU/w-d-xo.html also has a 0.02 micron pore size, but it does not have the additional filtration media capable of reducing chemical contaminants like the Grayl does
In my area my katadyn befree is my day hike filter. My multiday is a grayl. I have a bigger pack because of the bulk.
Thanks for sharing!
Does the katadyn filter everything that a Grayl does?
@sweetbeep the grayl is better and I think it has charcoal in the filter to filter out some chemicals. If I was going to unknown areas I'd get the grayl. I hike mostly in Maine so the Katadyn is good to go.
A small issue with the katadyn filter is if there is water in it and it's freezes, it will break. I'm not sure about the grayl.
Good luck on your journeys.
@@GTFBITK thanks. Does the Grayl filter pharma drugs from water?
@@sweetbeep it probably filters out some, but probably not most. Their website doesnt name pharmaceuticals specifically.
Got one for $75. It's bulky and a little heavy. Provides about a cup of water. I bought this to travel to Medida Yucatan. I like the Portawell for a disaster.
Perfect use case for each! I used my Ultrapress in Costa Rica recently
So is this a water filter or a water purifier? You say filter a lot! Thanks
I know they call it a purifier because it reduces bacteria and viruses
Nice review. I also enjoyed your more detailed review on your web site.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad your found the video and written reviews helpful!
this feels more like a in case of emergency use
Yeah these are a solid choice for emergency prep. Keep one in your car, etc.
I carry one in my backpack when I go ride my motorbike offroad because I've been caught out before and had to drink river water. We were fine but now I carry it with me on rides.
As opposed to what?
But they aren't nsf certified. I just bought a few but I'm concerned hope it is not another berkey
While not certified, they are independently tested by a certified laboratory to meet or exceed NSF/ANSI protocol 42 and 53 for pathogen and chemical removal; meets the the United States Environmental Protection Agency's Guide Standard and Protocol for testing microbiological water purifiers
Do more portable devices please
Thanks for the request! Well noted, and we will be sure to do so!
Protip: When do you know it's time to change the filter? By blowing air in to it. I found this earlier when I was attempting to make it dry faster. When you have a new filter, you hardly can get any air through. I was using Geopress daily for several months in a base camp. Tip not based on actual science. 👨🔬
Right on, thanks for sharing!
I’ll stick with my Katadyn Vairo
Fair enough! The Katadyn Vario is a solid filter
They are two different uses though one is more quick use and carry one is more for larger amounts of water
The Vario is a filter, this is a purifier. Yours doesn’t protect against viruses, etc. Apples and oranges comparison.
Just get stronger, it's not that heavy
Backpackers count every ounce
Do you know of a water filter system that removes that 0.001 % of whatever all these filter systems can't seem to remove? If they could hook up with all these other systems, or just 1 other system, you'd be swinging for the fence with every swallow!!
Reverse osmosis or distillation are the best methods to purify water. Not portable though
12oz is heavy?? How weak is someone
In regards to backpacking specifically, every oz counts
loosen the cap first
Yes! gotta loosen the cap to allow the pressure to release as you are pressing
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Cheers, thanks for watching!
For me these are useless. Actually if you live in the uk it is pretty much useless. You cant use them with bleaches/chemicals so tap water and river water no good. You cant use them with salt water so thats also a no for saline rivers (salt mix). Also, you cant use them in peaty water which rules out any hill rivers and lochs/lakes in much of the Uk and basically all of Scotland. In fact, if it isn’t glacial water you probably can’t use the press on it. I was just travelling the john muir way and stopped by a stream to top up my 4 small water bottles and the first was nearly clear and by the fourth it was dirt brown. If you see that, your filter has been destroyed by the tannins. Much better off with a paper type filter and replacing it when needed as these don’t become ’broken’ by the water. Ive told their marketing to tell the truth but they just rephrase everything i say back to me as if im a one off case. Its the water, not me. Their statement is this, ‘GRAYL… make clean drinking water anywhere on earth!’. Well, that’s just bull. Overpriced and broken by Scottish hill water in its first use. Feeling VERY ripped off. P.s. Grayl consider their ‘instruction manual’ (that you presumably read after purchase) to be their disclaimer so 2 things- read it, then send your Grayl back to the reseller. Bear in mind, they don’t refer to peaty water etc, they refer to tannins, so watch carefully because if you get poisoned, they will just place blame on you for not properly reading their instructions. No good if you are stuck miles from a healthy water source. Fortunately, peaty water is actually healthy for you. You just gotta be careful that an animal didn’t die in the water upstream.
Sorry to hear that and thanks for sharing
@@waterfilterguru well, it is important for people to hear. I would hate for any of your viewers to get ill from using the miracle filter.
Seems like it could easily cross contaminate itself with the dirty vs clean water. It seems veery gimmicky
We'll be lab testing one later this summer - interested to see if hat happens!
It definitely will if not careful. If you're not messy or clumsy, it stays clean.