Super happy to see you're still vlogging on top of your new duties within Rotor Riot, Drew! Your vlogs are what got me into freestyle, and I still look forward to new vlogs from LeDribster nearly a year later. Champion effort!
I subscribed to your channel with all my accounts :) Your the reason I have gotten into this hobby, it has changed my life completely. I am a year sober and was searching for a new hobby besides work, I have found what I was searching for my whole life!
People never talk about camera FOV. Increase your FOV by about 20° by using a 1.8mm lens and you can see the ground and do backwards stuff at the same time. I find 40° works perfect for everything.
Been playing with that one a little. At 45° yaw and roll do the same thing so flying is super easy (tend to not need to use the yaw stick) but I prefer 40° as it gives you a little distinction between the two.
Maybe i must change my camera for that. With my Foxeer Monster V2 with the upgraded lens i can fly with max 30° tilt because i want to see the ground for various other tricks.
FOV is a bit of a mystery that cam companies are only starting to spec. A 1.8mm lens on a Runcam swift for example has a much bigger Fov than one on a Foxeer Predator. It's partly down to the sensor size too which is what keeps me away from using cmos cameras. Have a check on their websites to try and compare fovs for your cams.
I did the exact same thing couple of month back when florent won the French freestyle contest (showmewhatyougot#2), and since then switch back and forth between 30deg and 60deg uptilt, it is possible to fly smooth un 60deg even in confined areas like bandos, as soon as your brain learns how your throttle control is linked to the new high tilt camera feedback. I mean, looking at florent's tricks, the precision and spatial awareness, he could totally fly in a bando (he actually tried, fincky has a YT video on it!), so definitely drew keep trying it
Ahah! That's exactly what I thought when I tried flying high up-tilt with Florent for my video! It is so damn confusing!!! One advice that Florent gave me to start practicing backwards flying was to pass close to an object with a high reference point, pitch back and apply throttle to pass it again. Doing that back and forth to kinda get a feel for it and then mixing it with yaw and roll to just kinda have fun with it.
Keep on doing it , it will become natural. I've been at 55deg all of 2018 and love it. I run high kv on 5s and then underprop it. It's explosive responsiveness that's very addictive !! Once you get the hang of it you might be a convert !! You just gotta love the speed !!! To heck with batteries you have to change them after every flight anyway !!! 👍🏻✌🏼
Interesting . The initial flight you described reminded me of when I went from 30 to 35 tilt . Not the same level experience but relatable . . . Now you got me curious while this is all still fairly new to me and I'm still learning anew .
Tried it! Now I fully understand why Drew was freaking out when he started flying with 60 degree tilt - *IT'S* *TOTALLY* *WEIRD* !! I'd have broken more than a prop if I tried it with a real quad. Using FPV Freerider Recharged, the treehouse level in the extra levels pack, it started to look like the 'real thing' of swirling round trees whilst staring at their tops from underneath, but it'll take a lot of practice to stop it feeling so weird.
Man u have mind bending skill and flow with your normal camera angle. You take mind bending to a whole other level with this high uptilt. Mad skills homie. 👍👍
if you use roll and yaw in opposite directions you get a more natural looking roll because the high uptilit kind means that roll and yaw switch, so to turn you use more roll instead of yaw.
Thank you florent_roque, mattystuntz and le drib... without people like florent and Matty the fpv industry would become stagnate and everyone doing the same tricks over and over... this is how you evolve fpv flying and pushing limits! Much respect to all of you!
Great video! I'm glad you said it, because I was thinking the same thing, that you need 2 quads to do all those maneuvers, one quad would be just to hard to fly slow and tight.
Drew awesome vid as usual. you can still find the session on eBay from GoPro. It’s refurbished but at the price they sell them for at times is crazy. I got mine a couple months back for $120. I think they still have some on eBay. If not keep checking I see them come and go. I’m about to order another one soon to have another back up.
Heightened Canvas by Mattystuntz is the video that convinced me of the cinematic value of miniquads, and set me on course to buying one. High uptilt makes straight line footage look furious, like an angry spirit or something. It creates more of a character for the camera, bringing the viewers attention to the fact that it's flying through the scene. It's cool to see you give it a try because I think it's going to fundamentally change the way you fly.
dude, you did great for the first time on 60 degrees uptilt, definitely try it out in some trees or someplace more forgiving. i tried it for a bit last summer and came to the same conclusion. it makes certain inverted mind bending matty ish "easier" but it makes everything else harder. plus every time i crashed it was at a thousand miles an hour to a full yard sale. now i run 48 degrees uptilt and i like it but i still can't do inverted orbits lol
You you should keep the high tilt skitzo with you when you fly and after you get all your normal footage pull it out and see what happens, itd be sick to see you mix that in with your normal fpv footage in a lot of vlogs and full vids. I don’t think anyone else is really mixing the two in one vid
Just thought he was using it because the massive uptilt would be hard with the battery in the way of the gopro mount. Plus the center of gravity change might be in favor of the massive uptilt maneuvers. All this is speculation as I haven't tried massive uptilt...yet. ;-)
It wouldn't be that hard, and it would yield mind blowing results. The viewer wouldn't realize the camera uptilt was changing between maneuvers. Even a building dive could be done with a big uptilt going up, and say none coming down. You could look like you were flying straight and level only up the building's side, then down you'd want it out. OMG a zoom lens to vary the FOV on the fly too. ONE OF YOU FREESTYLE GODS NEED TO DO THIS!!
I have a theory that it is good to switch angles back and forth like this. I believe it separates us from our fixed viewpoint and connects us more with the quad physics if that makes sense. I recently increased to 40 degrees and have found myself flying more slow motion at times than before.
Hey congrats bro on rotor riot much love from a fellow Michigan boy! 810! OCD-FPV Keep up all the great work.also as a business owner I would love to change my occupation.so if you guys are hiring for anything keep me in mind!
add a button to transmitter, add servo to quad, change the angle with pressing a button. If there's value to different angles, fly with all the angles.
I put servo tilt on my first race quad couple years ago, an enhances qav20 clone 6" build. Switching to "landing mode" (15 degrees) worked great. I have a micro servo designed into my current frame, work in progress.
I remember trying high tilt about 2 yrs ago. Definitely way to fast for regular flying. Ur sister seems to have to much fun in ur videos. How come she doesn’t fly with the guys
What would really be interesting would be a camera hinged at the bottom, and pulled back by a servo so you can change the angle on a switch and get both style of tricks in one shot/one quad.
Have you tried 45 degrees? That could be more of your style for high uptilt. It gives you the best of both worlds, with a very neutral control as both sticks move the same amount in a coordinated turn
Drew you're so talented. You looked great. The visual effects you get with this much uptilt aren't possible with what you're running. Here is a rather obvious idea, that I've never seen done in FPV: Be able to change your uptilt while flying. Continuously would be best. You could use the spare knobs that go unused on the RC. One moment you could get extreme uptilt, while the next you could do maneuvers that would look better with much less uptilt. It would make you look like a quad God (Well... even more like one, which I'd think is barely possible.) because the viewer wouldn't know the camera angle has changed. If would REALLY be mind bending. I'm amazed I haven't seen it.
That's how I learned to fly lol hard as hell to land lol then you get used to it .I chilled out with Cricket and he was like slow down you're moving to fast haha turn you're tilt down and my whole style changed crazy what some tilt can do for you .great vid 👍🏽
This may be a stupid comment, but is the GoPro Session 5 really discontinued? Cause there is a lot of them still for sale on Amazon...I bought one or two months ago O.o
Drew, I never was scared during your flight because your control is *almost* boringly precise, I mean, I would get aboard one of your quad without any fear (lol) BUT THIS TIME, I got some adrenaline feeling the weird control as you tried that omfg. Maybe not your confort zone but it was awesome and you should master it by any means... should take a day or two since you're so bad at flying :p Just Drew it. Drib avec le ballon. (nevermind)
I wonder if it would help to switch the transmitter to mode 4 instead of 2 (or 3 instead of 1; or vice-versa if you usually fly the other way around), when the camera angle is very close to 90 degrees...
Not quite. For a high tilt angle mode try mode 4 with INVERSE yaw though, then fly it as if it is Mode 2 (i.e. swap Roll and Yaw channels, set Yaw to inverse, then fly as if still in Mode 2).
Super happy to see you're still vlogging on top of your new duties within Rotor Riot, Drew! Your vlogs are what got me into freestyle, and I still look forward to new vlogs from LeDribster nearly a year later. Champion effort!
I subscribed to your channel with all my accounts :) Your the reason I have gotten into this hobby, it has changed my life completely. I am a year sober and was searching for a new hobby besides work, I have found what I was searching for my whole life!
Thats amazing brother well done. Sending you a high five from me keep strong brother. FPV for life :)
People never talk about camera FOV. Increase your FOV by about 20° by using a 1.8mm lens and you can see the ground and do backwards stuff at the same time. I find 40° works perfect for everything.
True. And if you see it completely technical, 45° might be the perfect angle because its right in the middle.
Been playing with that one a little. At 45° yaw and roll do the same thing so flying is super easy (tend to not need to use the yaw stick) but I prefer 40° as it gives you a little distinction between the two.
I prefer 40° as well
Maybe i must change my camera for that. With my Foxeer Monster V2 with the upgraded lens i can fly with max 30° tilt because i want to see the ground for various other tricks.
FOV is a bit of a mystery that cam companies are only starting to spec. A 1.8mm lens on a Runcam swift for example has a much bigger Fov than one on a Foxeer Predator. It's partly down to the sensor size too which is what keeps me away from using cmos cameras. Have a check on their websites to try and compare fovs for your cams.
I was "Whoa", "Oh no", "Daaaamn" and "Duuuude no way"-ing the whole time during your high-tilt flying. Really trippy perspective.
That is absolutely hilarious!! Loved the initial “shock” of flying 😂 Loooooved the vlog!!!!
That is just nuts. You want to think that the camera is at normal tilt but then you go wait you look upside down but your not. You nailed it drew.
You were amazing. The inverted circle around the supports showed so much talent. I love your videos.
I did the exact same thing couple of month back when florent won the French freestyle contest (showmewhatyougot#2), and since then switch back and forth between 30deg and 60deg uptilt, it is possible to fly smooth un 60deg even in confined areas like bandos, as soon as your brain learns how your throttle control is linked to the new high tilt camera feedback. I mean, looking at florent's tricks, the precision and spatial awareness, he could totally fly in a bando (he actually tried, fincky has a YT video on it!), so definitely drew keep trying it
I really like watching you try new things and explaining how they work.
I like your way of thinking on the subject...different skillset for different flying...perfect
That is awesome, and your videos along with the other rotor riot pilots are why I started fpv. Keep it up I love the videos.
"everything is weird" so cool staying upside down
I think your pids are just perfect.
Very cool to see how the new tilt informed your standard tilt flying.
Absolutely love the night camera up tilt!! I love having to pitch up to gain altitude and it's just a better flight experience for me :).
Great job!. That upside down flying was epic.. Keep going, I cant wait to see where this goes!
Ahah! That's exactly what I thought when I tried flying high up-tilt with Florent for my video! It is so damn confusing!!!
One advice that Florent gave me to start practicing backwards flying was to pass close to an object with a high reference point, pitch back and apply throttle to pass it again. Doing that back and forth to kinda get a feel for it and then mixing it with yaw and roll to just kinda have fun with it.
You know your the man when you can do these tricks with a 30 deg camera tilt you are the man
3:30, i love the little board you've 3d printed to hold the emitter...
Keep on doing it , it will become natural. I've been at 55deg all of 2018 and love it. I run high kv on 5s and then underprop it. It's explosive responsiveness that's very addictive !!
Once you get the hang of it you might be a convert !!
You just gotta love the speed !!!
To heck with batteries you have to change them after every flight anyway !!! 👍🏻✌🏼
It's the landings that are killing me.....Lol
Super funny episode. That was a good watch Drew.
THE MOST INCREDIBLE SPOOOOTTTTT
Interesting . The initial flight you described reminded me of when I went from 30 to 35 tilt . Not the same level experience but relatable . . . Now you got me curious while this is all still fairly new to me and I'm still learning anew .
Ok I'm gonna try that ridiculous uptilt in a sim, because I don't want to destroy a real quad.
Tried it! Now I fully understand why Drew was freaking out when he started flying with 60 degree tilt - *IT'S* *TOTALLY* *WEIRD* !! I'd have broken more than a prop if I tried it with a real quad.
Using FPV Freerider Recharged, the treehouse level in the extra levels pack, it started to look like the 'real thing' of swirling round trees whilst staring at their tops from underneath, but it'll take a lot of practice to stop it feeling so weird.
@@licensetodrive9930 IT mixes the yaw and pitch axis naturally so you can basically turn with just your pitch/tilt stick it weirds me right out
Yeah I fly 55 degrees because it feels natural in the turns, except combining roll and yaw is a little odd at times.
Your reactions when flying this quad are hilarious :)
Man u have mind bending skill and flow with your normal camera angle. You take mind bending to a whole other level with this high uptilt. Mad skills homie. 👍👍
Great flying with the high angle tilt!👍 also Sweet ending dude! 👊👍
That’s up tilt was crazy 😝 looked sketchy and yet interesting to fly 🤙🏻 nice video dude 👍🏻
1:34 - “It has a top mounted frame and is therefore more longer”
😂
Wow the Rouge bridge looks a lot less scary underneath now lol
if you use roll and yaw in opposite directions you get a more natural looking roll because the high uptilit kind means that roll and yaw switch, so to turn you use more roll instead of yaw.
Not quite right. As uptilt angle passes 45 degrees and heads towards 90 degrees, the original yaw axis becomes the INVERSE of the original roll.
Thank you florent_roque, mattystuntz and le drib... without people like florent and Matty the fpv industry would become stagnate and everyone doing the same tricks over and over... this is how you evolve fpv flying and pushing limits! Much respect to all of you!
Matty has one trick and the industry has become stagnant.
Ok very cool... and that flying under bridge messed with my mind... Great video...
Congratulations on the new job mate grate work
The end of this video is my favorite. More of that.
😘
Might make a good RR episode to revisit this.
Awesome! I am maidening my dark matter tomorrow too!
you rock drew
Great video! I'm glad you said it, because I was thinking the same thing, that you need 2 quads to do all those maneuvers, one quad would be just to hard to fly slow and tight.
Nice tats! ;) also amazing flying Drew!
You can buy the session in the woodlands texas
Drew please please share information on the wall brackets you have to hang your quads on. Thank you !
Now you understand why MattyStuntz deserves nothing more than RESPECT...
Nothing less*?
Always learning, great vid Drib
Drew awesome vid as usual. you can still find the session on eBay from GoPro. It’s refurbished but at the price they sell them for at times is crazy. I got mine a couple months back for $120. I think they still have some on eBay. If not keep checking I see them come and go. I’m about to order another one soon to have another back up.
Yes... more angle = more speed. It's a beautiful thing.
Awesome. Frankly, this looks as if you'd been flying with 60° up-tilt a lot before. Looks smooth and very watchable already.
Heightened Canvas by Mattystuntz is the video that convinced me of the cinematic value of miniquads, and set me on course to buying one. High uptilt makes straight line footage look furious, like an angry spirit or something. It creates more of a character for the camera, bringing the viewers attention to the fact that it's flying through the scene. It's cool to see you give it a try because I think it's going to fundamentally change the way you fly.
Great flight and video footage
Love it Drew, im going to follow suit and build out a high angle flier for some diffent practice.
Ya know Drew there's the run cam 3 you could use.
That was a great video great way to explaining how to do other things with a high camera angle
Congrats on the Prez of RR Man
Great video! My mind is still spinning!
uptilt just moved Drib's smoothness down to "all the rest of us" level! LMAO!!!!
dude, you did great for the first time on 60 degrees uptilt, definitely try it out in some trees or someplace more forgiving. i tried it for a bit last summer and came to the same conclusion. it makes certain inverted mind bending matty ish "easier" but it makes everything else harder. plus every time i crashed it was at a thousand miles an hour to a full yard sale. now i run 48 degrees uptilt and i like it but i still can't do inverted orbits lol
10:20 nailed it!
You you should keep the high tilt skitzo with you when you fly and after you get all your normal footage pull it out and see what happens, itd be sick to see you mix that in with your normal fpv footage in a lot of vlogs and full vids. I don’t think anyone else is really mixing the two in one vid
You'll get there!!
Amazing flying
Did anyone else catch a glimpse of Drib's new frame??
Just thought he was using it because the massive uptilt would be hard with the battery in the way of the gopro mount. Plus the center of gravity change might be in favor of the massive uptilt maneuvers. All this is speculation as I haven't tried massive uptilt...yet. ;-)
I tried up tilt one day, it wasn't for me. Great job explaining! Very cool!
Nice Drew! Inspire me to try it too
I’ve gotta challenge for ya! Have the uptilt on a servo😉.
It wouldn't be that hard, and it would yield mind blowing results. The viewer wouldn't realize the camera uptilt was changing between maneuvers. Even a building dive could be done with a big uptilt going up, and say none coming down. You could look like you were flying straight and level only up the building's side, then down you'd want it out. OMG a zoom lens to vary the FOV on the fly too. ONE OF YOU FREESTYLE GODS NEED TO DO THIS!!
I have a theory that it is good to switch angles back and forth like this. I believe it separates us from our fixed viewpoint and connects us more with the quad physics if that makes sense. I recently increased to 40 degrees and have found myself flying more slow motion at times than before.
Hey congrats bro on rotor riot much love from a fellow Michigan boy! 810! OCD-FPV
Keep up all the great work.also as a business owner I would love to change my occupation.so if you guys are hiring for anything keep me in mind!
Great edit, great video. I’d like to hear what matty has to say, any more beef between y’all? Lol 🤣😉👌
finally an explanation that shows you no its NOT 3D all my buddies just cant wrap their brain around it even with the explanation...
Glad you take into consideration what people talk about in your comments ;)
I'll prepare my slow flying rig for that. Can't wait to try flying backwards for so long
I know it's not your style of flying but you still did amazing!!!!!
Mate that was SICK! Gotta try it soon 😬😊
Cheers
WAY COOL ! Great flying
Eres el mas master! Buenos vuelos!
Is that the same bridge where you lost your quad that night? They filled in the swampy area?
Great video, but what software did you use to design the mount? It looked real quick and easy, which is impressive.
They have a session 5 now!
add a button to transmitter, add servo to quad, change the angle with pressing a button. If there's value to different angles, fly with all the angles.
I put servo tilt on my first race quad couple years ago, an enhances qav20 clone 6" build. Switching to "landing mode" (15 degrees) worked great. I have a micro servo designed into my current frame, work in progress.
I remember trying high tilt about 2 yrs ago. Definitely way to fast for regular flying. Ur sister seems to have to much fun in ur videos. How come she doesn’t fly with the guys
Another great video
What would really be interesting would be a camera hinged at the bottom, and pulled back by a servo so you can change the angle on a switch and get both style of tricks in one shot/one quad.
dude...you practice before your vlog...lolll awesome matty style
Have you tried 45 degrees? That could be more of your style for high uptilt. It gives you the best of both worlds, with a very neutral control as both sticks move the same amount in a coordinated turn
What about keeping the high angle on the GoPro with just a little more uptilt than standard on your fpv cam.
Drew you're so talented. You looked great. The visual effects you get with this much uptilt aren't possible with what you're running. Here is a rather obvious idea, that I've never seen done in FPV: Be able to change your uptilt while flying. Continuously would be best. You could use the spare knobs that go unused on the RC.
One moment you could get extreme uptilt, while the next you could do maneuvers that would look better with much less uptilt. It would make you look like a quad God (Well... even more like one, which I'd think is barely possible.) because the viewer wouldn't know the camera angle has changed. If would REALLY be mind bending. I'm amazed I haven't seen it.
I got sea sick with this set up..
That's how I learned to fly lol hard as hell to land lol then you get used to it .I chilled out with Cricket and he was like slow down you're moving to fast haha turn you're tilt down and my whole style changed crazy what some tilt can do for you .great vid 👍🏽
Cool! So thats how matty does it.
I wanna get into arduino coding and brushless motors for ebikes as well
Welcome to Mattystuntz' Wonderland. 💜
Drew they still sell sessions on amazon
Pretty sure he buys from GoPro for thr care package .
Sessions on Amazon are a one break one loss thing . No chance of replacement
What do you mean the GOPRO session is discontinued just looked on amazon its on there ????
That was fun. Next try down-tilt
I fly at this spot when i was in detroit this summer ! That was sick ;)
Nice! I’ve gone for 10 deg when I first started to 30 deg and now 40 deg
Great video buddy
Why is there not a drone with a servo in the tilt and you can adjust the tilt off the throttle/pitch %'s?
This may be a stupid comment, but is the GoPro Session 5 really discontinued? Cause there is a lot of them still for sale on Amazon...I bought one or two months ago O.o
Drew, I never was scared during your flight because your control is *almost* boringly precise, I mean, I would get aboard one of your quad without any fear (lol)
BUT THIS TIME, I got some adrenaline feeling the weird control as you tried that omfg.
Maybe not your confort zone but it was awesome and you should master it by any means... should take a day or two since you're so bad at flying :p
Just Drew it.
Drib avec le ballon. (nevermind)
I wonder if it would help to switch the transmitter to mode 4 instead of 2 (or 3 instead of 1; or vice-versa if you usually fly the other way around), when the camera angle is very close to 90 degrees...
Not quite. For a high tilt angle mode try mode 4 with INVERSE yaw though, then fly it as if it is Mode 2 (i.e. swap Roll and Yaw channels, set Yaw to inverse, then fly as if still in Mode 2).