Rewatched again thanks man and super congrats on 50k next is 100k it’ll hit you before you know it! And can I say you really deserve so much more your a real hero in this community and a good role model for kids which is everything this hobby needs thanks Drew always!
Awesome vid man! 👌 It's cool to see the comparison. I have a few different types of frames myself. I can totally tell a difference between top and bottom mount. Top just feels more... juicy, I guess. You can definitely tell where you're at home. Last run was SICK!!!
Le drib skylite was so worth it..thanks for a great solid build bro! I've been wrecking it for almost a year now. It's upped my skills big time man. Now when I build my apex I won't aniahlate it:)
So I was talkn fpv at work, Regional manager heard me and said his brother is into it and makes frames or something. Calls him up "what's your company again?"... mqc. Whaaat. Drib flies mqc.. Sweet. Small world
Would love to see a graphic on screen, representing the current draw of each motor. Knowing the relative power draw in comparison to each motor, and with that, a side by of each build, would give me an even clearer picture of what is happening onboard.
That is a great Question to answer. Which kind of Quad. I’ll check, got a top and a bottom mount and I take them everywhere, I’ll go and study their behind the sticks more closely. A nice way to spend a flying session enjoying the differences and challenging myself flying both.
Great content! I've watched you for almost a year probably and you have really progressed, you've always been a great pilot but I see you pushing harder and getting closer to tree gaps and dives, etc. keep them coming bud👍
Haha very nice. What an epic flight again in a tight space. I love it how much you seem to hate how the Remix flies and still are polite about it 😂. I love both my remix and my Alien style frames but it sure flies different.
Wow the last few seconds drew that was clean as fuck and the remix had this accerleration effect look in the GoPro or I guess motion blur that looked really cool ! Great shit man keep it up dude !
I'm with you on having props in frame, but there's something that I really like about how the Remix flies (or at least how the footage looks when you and Tommy are flying it). It's very shoulders-forward, if that means anything, which it doesn't, but maybe you get me anyway.
I'm getting back into FPV. I'm going freestyle this time, and was wondering what the flight characteristics were between different mounts! Thank you for this!
Nice comparison. Started out almost 3 years ago, top mount. Switched to bottom mount about a year and a half ago. Love it. But I just built a Rooster about 8 weeks ago. Hated it at first, now I completely love it. Love that heavier feel now and the hangtime it gets. Freestyle is fun with bottom mount just can't get that good flow and hang as a top mount. Just ordered a 2nd new top mount frame to build. Also the bottom mount does have a quicker better turning ability, next time try a high speed tight 180 around a tree or pole, that's where you can feel it. Rooster definitely wont turn that right or fast. But it makes up for it everywhere else.
I've done top and bottom mount and can definitely feel a difference.. prefer top. Haven't tried mid mount yet but have that remix frame.. Will be trying it sometime soon though
great vid as usual, i was surpriced how stable the skitzo low mount was for the hd footage, very good, would love to see you compare the different flight controllers, Betaflight vs Kiss vs Flight One cos i know you got that kiss setup some where in your collection :)
Dear Drib, on my little printed guy I have top and bottom mount. I tried this recently to see the difference on the same frame. This was very interesting to watch and compare against my own findings. One thing I did note, that is not always said, is not just mount method, but how off center the battery is. I find for acro and hard maneuvers, this to be more noticeable. It may not show up as much on Mini Quads because your power to weight ratio is 10:1 where as my 3 inch micro is about 5:1. The littler motors, having less power show the difference more noticeably. Problematically the high power of mini quads may in fact make it harder to notice. More so noticeable at the end of the battery where the torque delivery is reduced. This would be maybe more to for you guys with respect to the camera balancing an off center battery. Food for thought!
Awesome. Just had this same talk with one of my pilots. Some people swear by bottom mount. Where I also prefer top mount. Not that I can flow like you. But I hate hitting battery trying to squeeze through with a bottom mount.
Great Vid Le Dribby! Honestly, I've never had a chance to fly anything but top mount so I can't, in good faith, give a fair comparison myself. With that said, I'll continue with my OG QAV210 for now. She's a Beast👍
I too have been trying out new setups including a bottom mount. Not sure if it is because I fly it most but I still prefer my fusion w/your motors . I can say that the qav210xs bottom mount allows some tricks with greater easy and the fusion top mount others
i have been patiently waiting this vid since you mentioned it a while ago. :) I have been flying ummagawds remix frame and once i got it tuned in freestyle has been a blast. I'm just not used to going from 45 degree tilt to 30 degree.
Nice flying! I don't know if you covered it yet in any video but would you mind showing some editing techniques and rendering settings? Your footage always look amazing!
Very good comparaison, but I want to put 2 things up: - The tendency to pitch up when doing sharp 180 degres turns with the bottom mount quad is very strange, because I found exactly the opposite! I used to race with lightweight true x bottom mount with 55 degres of tilt, quad flying almost vertically, and it was point and shoot, so precise! But with the top mount battery, heavier and with slightly less tilt due to lack of power due to weight, it was litteraly like grabbed by the nose and pulled up. I also was draining my dinogy 1500 80C to 13V in less that 1min20 with 2600kv dans 5046x3, so I had to de-tilt to avoid burning them every week or so^^ - Don’t forget that with the remix you fly a slightly larger quad with 5,5’’ props, it obvious that it feel differently that a 5’’ if you have the same rates on both quads, it should logical feel more stable due to larger props, more planted in the air, and less fast on roll and flip because larger and lower kV.
Belly busters for life! I used to only fly top mounts for freestyle, but I find that the COG is more neutral with the battery below and the goPro on top, and like Drew said, they tend to be much smaller bodies, so they're lighter and float a lot better. I just can't bonk structures or do skid landings.
My first 5 inch was a bottom mount (Darkmax 220) and I hated it because I would wreck a battery constantly. I rebuilt it on a spartan frame top mount and loved it. Since I destroyed that frame I built it on a Remix frame still haven’t flown it yet due to a ton of technical issues but plan to fly it in the top mount configuration.
Bra you live in bando land! Awsome! But honestly that fusion is bomb. Great for holding a smooth line, especially in some wind. I would say dark matter skitzo is a flip machine, and the remix is definitely the most balanced! Epic flying as usual!
@Le Drib hey wanted to say you helped re inspire me to pick up the sticks again and the progress Ive made watching your videos has been amazing-thank you. I really enjoy your content! How are you getting such good reception with your patch antenna facing away from where youre flying?i have the attitude v6 googles with lumineer double axII 2 long range rhcp and lumenier axII duo patch antenna but dont get very good reception on my flywhoo explorer 4 LR maybe 700 ft or so before loss is more than I can handle. do I just need to bite the bullet and get the rapid fire? Ive been working up to 5" and that was the next planned purchase but would happily follow any advice you're willing to give....
I've been looking for a comparison like this for sometime. My two flying quads are a Spartan and a GepRC Leopard. The Spartan is a top mount battery I like the way it feels and flys better than the Leopard which is a bottom mount. No where near the skill level you are, but I'm advancing my skill a little bit each time. Thanks!
nice comparison...re-mix looks cool, I've got top and bottom mounts. Hey Drew, how about a feature on 3D printing. I just got a MakerBot Replicator + It's a nice tool for FPV
I would prefer a top mount but what I have at the moment is bottom mount. And I don’t mind it a bit. But when I get all my components and do a build to my liking will be an X 250 frame with a top mount.
Yep top mount for me all day...Have flown bottom and top...much prefer top mount for all the same reasons..Still interested in trying a mid mount quad tough.
@Le Drib Hey there bro, look up the "Pendulum rocket fallacy". I didn't know about it either. Apparently there is no possible pendulum effect on a quadcopter (or rocket). The only effect you are looking at is differences in angular momentum (which is still important).
I definitely prefer top mount as well even though the Stingy frame also exhibits a bit of prop exposure when the GoPro is recording in superview. Otherwise I think I’d go mid-mount.
6:17 that wire actually startled me
Rewatched again thanks man and super congrats on 50k next is 100k it’ll hit you before you know it! And can I say you really deserve so much more your a real hero in this community and a good role model for kids which is everything this hobby needs thanks Drew always!
You've grown and improved soooo much. One of my favorites now for sure.
I can't say enough how much I like the vids that have information that helps me fly better. Great post!
Thanks for the continued professional and often times informative videos, we have all come to love.
Man this is just so flawless. I enjoy you flying and video style
I loved seeing you fly all three, thanks for the comparison video.
I so wanted to see a juicy flick up through the dive gap! Nice flying!
That was fun to watch and learn about the different characteristics. Plus you tore that spot up. Awesomeness! 👌🙌💙
You're genius, not only because of flying skill, but because of video editing and montage. Music and footage combination is just perfect.
I enjoyed seeing this warm up process makes me feel like I'm on the right track
That was some seriously badass flying..... great video. Thanks for posting.
great vid as usual drew
your flying has gotten so much better man, rip on ripper!
Nice one man! Glad you mentioned the position of the camera in bottom-mount setups, I think that's often overlooked.
You have some sick spots, i'm slightly jealous :)
Feels so natural commentating. Nice work!
Awesome vid man! 👌
It's cool to see the comparison. I have a few different types of frames myself. I can totally tell a difference between top and bottom mount. Top just feels more... juicy, I guess. You can definitely tell where you're at home. Last run was SICK!!!
Le drib skylite was so worth it..thanks for a great solid build bro! I've been wrecking it for almost a year now. It's upped my skills big time man. Now when I build my apex I won't aniahlate it:)
Great video Drew. Thanks for putting this together.
It’s nice when we can hear the drone sounds. Instead of just music. It helps me to try and mimic ur tricks
What’s up Drew? Love watching your content.. keep up the great work! Hoping to fly with you one day.
Like dancing in the air. Love your style!
You are wizard Drew! Amazing flying.
So I was talkn fpv at work, Regional manager heard me and said his brother is into it and makes frames or something. Calls him up "what's your company again?"... mqc. Whaaat. Drib flies mqc.. Sweet. Small world
Jump on that! Maybe get him to send you some frames! You’re a lucky dude!
Would love to see a graphic on screen, representing the current draw of each motor. Knowing the relative power draw in comparison to each motor, and with that, a side by of each build, would give me an even clearer picture of what is happening onboard.
Sick flying Bro 💖👊
DAMN you fly like a pro!! Awesome and Wicked moves you did there dude...
That is a great Question to answer. Which kind of Quad. I’ll check, got a top and a bottom mount and I take them everywhere, I’ll go and study their behind the sticks more closely. A nice way to spend a flying session enjoying the differences and challenging myself flying both.
Great content! I've watched you for almost a year probably and you have really progressed, you've always been a great pilot but I see you pushing harder and getting closer to tree gaps and dives, etc. keep them coming bud👍
Excellent Rhip Comparison!😎
Never knew about Mid Mount at all thanks for the video.
Haha very nice. What an epic flight again in a tight space. I love it how much you seem to hate how the Remix flies and still are polite about it 😂. I love both my remix and my Alien style frames but it sure flies different.
Wow the last few seconds drew that was clean as fuck and the remix had this accerleration effect look in the GoPro or I guess motion blur that looked really cool ! Great shit man keep it up dude !
Great video. Was wondering about this myself. Thank you.
Sick video D. Cheers!!! Top mount all the way!!
wow fun rides in all of them. Great great down !
you are an amazingly talented pilot
It's crazy how good you are
I'm with you on having props in frame, but there's something that I really like about how the Remix flies (or at least how the footage looks when you and Tommy are flying it). It's very shoulders-forward, if that means anything, which it doesn't, but maybe you get me anyway.
That last run was impresive
such a beast Drib!
solid video, i fly top mount only but i have always been curious about bottom mount.
Sick flying man I made the switch back to top mount awhile ago
I'm getting back into FPV. I'm going freestyle this time, and was wondering what the flight characteristics were between different mounts! Thank you for this!
Awesome flow Drew
Nice comparison. Started out almost 3 years ago, top mount. Switched to bottom mount about a year and a half ago. Love it. But I just built a Rooster about 8 weeks ago. Hated it at first, now I completely love it. Love that heavier feel now and the hangtime it gets. Freestyle is fun with bottom mount just can't get that good flow and hang as a top mount. Just ordered a 2nd new top mount frame to build. Also the bottom mount does have a quicker better turning ability, next time try a high speed tight 180 around a tree or pole, that's where you can feel it. Rooster definitely wont turn that right or fast. But it makes up for it everywhere else.
Dope show bro
Le Drib! Not sure if you'll see this, but I LOVE my remix with your le drib hypetrains and 5544 cyclones. My go to build for sure!
I've done top and bottom mount and can definitely feel a difference.. prefer top. Haven't tried mid mount yet but have that remix frame.. Will be trying it sometime soon though
Nice flying man keep it up cheers 🍻
Awesome video Drew. Ultimately, I just think it comes down to comfort and feel. Fly what feels good. 😆
Interesting comparison. Just goes to prove that, like love, we like what we like. Some great flying and some crazy gaps.
This guy.. put 4 motors on a brick and he still will fly it smooth
Yeah LeDrib could make anything look great.
LeDrib - hold my beer, *put four bricks on a motor and rips*
great vid as usual, i was surpriced how stable the skitzo low mount was for the hd footage, very good, would love to see you compare the different flight controllers, Betaflight vs Kiss vs Flight One cos i know you got that kiss setup some where in your collection :)
Dear Drib, on my little printed guy I have top and bottom mount. I tried this recently to see the difference on the same frame. This was very interesting to watch and compare against my own findings. One thing I did note, that is not always said, is not just mount method, but how off center the battery is. I find for acro and hard maneuvers, this to be more noticeable. It may not show up as much on Mini Quads because your power to weight ratio is 10:1 where as my 3 inch micro is about 5:1. The littler motors, having less power show the difference more noticeably. Problematically the high power of mini quads may in fact make it harder to notice. More so noticeable at the end of the battery where the torque delivery is reduced. This would be maybe more to for you guys with respect to the camera balancing an off center battery. Food for thought!
Overall awesome video!
great video bro
Awesome. Just had this same talk with one of my pilots. Some people swear by bottom mount. Where I also prefer top mount. Not that I can flow like you. But I hate hitting battery trying to squeeze through with a bottom mount.
i expect a flight edit from here. not gonna lie. great little spot!
That was some bad ass flying!!!
Dav right dude !
IKR
Great Vid Le Dribby! Honestly, I've never had a chance to fly anything but top mount so I can't, in good faith, give a fair comparison myself. With that said, I'll continue with my OG QAV210 for now. She's a Beast👍
I too have been trying out new setups including a bottom mount. Not sure if it is because I fly it most but I still prefer my fusion w/your motors . I can say that the qav210xs bottom mount allows some tricks with greater easy and the fusion top mount others
I was just talking to my buddy about this last night! 👍 👍
Crazy how smooth the movements are, even for quick jogs through narrow gaps. Like you've got linear interpolation running on your fingertips
i have been patiently waiting this vid since you mentioned it a while ago. :) I have been flying ummagawds remix frame and once i got it tuned in freestyle has been a blast. I'm just not used to going from 45 degree tilt to 30 degree.
Nice flying! I don't know if you covered it yet in any video but would you mind showing some editing techniques and rendering settings? Your footage always look amazing!
Nice flying drew
Wow you make it look so easy
this video made me twitch like 20 times. crazy flying
Just the video I was looking 4👍
nice one, you should also try a slammed version where the props are in line with the top plate. Thats the only conf I fly these days for freestyle.
Very good comparaison, but I want to put 2 things up:
- The tendency to pitch up when doing sharp 180 degres turns with the bottom mount quad is very strange, because I found exactly the opposite! I used to race with lightweight true x bottom mount with 55 degres of tilt, quad flying almost vertically, and it was point and shoot, so precise! But with the top mount battery, heavier and with slightly less tilt due to lack of power due to weight, it was litteraly like grabbed by the nose and pulled up. I also was draining my dinogy 1500 80C to 13V in less that 1min20 with 2600kv dans 5046x3, so I had to de-tilt to avoid burning them every week or so^^
- Don’t forget that with the remix you fly a slightly larger quad with 5,5’’ props, it obvious that it feel differently that a 5’’ if you have the same rates on both quads, it should logical feel more stable due to larger props, more planted in the air, and less fast on roll and flip because larger and lower kV.
Belly busters for life! I used to only fly top mounts for freestyle, but I find that the COG is more neutral with the battery below and the goPro on top, and like Drew said, they tend to be much smaller bodies, so they're lighter and float a lot better. I just can't bonk structures or do skid landings.
Thanks Drew. I'm still trying to work on shooting smaller gaps. You do it like a wizard. Any suggestions on how i can practice?
My first 5 inch was a bottom mount (Darkmax 220) and I hated it because I would wreck a battery constantly. I rebuilt it on a spartan frame top mount and loved it. Since I destroyed that frame I built it on a Remix frame still haven’t flown it yet due to a ton of technical issues but plan to fly it in the top mount configuration.
Ty for video, I have (2) of your quads, definitely used to a Top mounted battery.
I am scared to try anything else... thanks alot! :P
I never have flew top mount!!! I want too!!!! GREAT CHANNEL!!
👍😀👍
Bra you live in bando land! Awsome! But honestly that fusion is bomb. Great for holding a smooth line, especially in some wind. I would say dark matter skitzo is a flip machine, and the remix is definitely the most balanced! Epic flying as usual!
Top mount FTW!
when you push the MQC it's pretty amazing!
really cool color on your hair! I've always wanted to try but kinda a bit frightened since I've have thin hair
This question bothers me now for a long tine^^ Thanks!
@Le Drib hey wanted to say you helped re inspire me to pick up the sticks again and the progress Ive made watching your videos has been amazing-thank you. I really enjoy your content! How are you getting such good reception with your patch antenna facing away from where youre flying?i have the attitude v6 googles with lumineer double axII 2 long range rhcp and lumenier axII duo patch antenna but dont get very good reception on my flywhoo explorer 4 LR maybe 700 ft or so before loss is more than I can handle. do I just need to bite the bullet and get the rapid fire? Ive been working up to 5" and that was the next planned purchase but would happily follow any advice you're willing to give....
I've been looking for a comparison like this for sometime. My two flying quads are a Spartan and a GepRC Leopard. The Spartan is a top mount battery I like the way it feels and flys better than the Leopard which is a bottom mount. No where near the skill level you are, but I'm advancing my skill a little bit each time. Thanks!
Good stuff
I flew bottom mounts forever. Just recently started really flying top mounts. They seem easier too tune/fly. I think I'm sold on the top mount.
Dope vid! Do another livestream man!
This needed to be a blind test!
Mid mount all day. I like props in the video. It's cool watching them speed up and slow down with the tricks. I think it Kinda adds to it.
Can you make a toturial, how to fly and avoid propwash.
Kind of how you fly, to work around the propwash.
nice comparison...re-mix looks cool, I've got top and bottom mounts. Hey Drew, how about a feature on 3D printing. I just got a MakerBot Replicator + It's a nice tool for FPV
Awesommmmmm!!!!!! maybe one day i`ll flight like him.
very cool man
Make a detailed overview of the camera. Rotor Riot Swift 2 FPV Cam.
I would prefer a top mount but what I have at the moment is bottom mount. And I don’t mind it a bit. But when I get all my components and do a build to my liking will be an X 250 frame with a top mount.
Totally random question but what sunglasses do you have at the beginning, i love them!
Yep top mount for me all day...Have flown bottom and top...much prefer top mount for all the same reasons..Still interested in trying a mid mount quad tough.
@Le Drib
Hey there bro, look up the "Pendulum rocket fallacy". I didn't know about it either. Apparently there is no possible pendulum effect on a quadcopter (or rocket). The only effect you are looking at is differences in angular momentum (which is still important).
I definitely prefer top mount as well even though the Stingy frame also exhibits a bit of prop exposure when the GoPro is recording in superview.
Otherwise I think I’d go mid-mount.