I love it because its so unique, so 'Avant-garde'. A Citroen badge would not look out of place on this vehicle and thats why I would buy it. There are too many EVs now that all look the same so there is no passion or desire to buy them.
When I saw the huge door opening, I assume that the side impact would be a disaster, but then I saw it is made by Zeekr/Geely, then yep, nothing to worry about.
this is basically a almost luxury 4 seater +1... but very interesting proposition... let's see if it reaches Europe one day... but that width and weight are really three down points for me
An excellent vehicle! Zeekr deserves all the kudos that they can get for making this vehicle. Unique design, ultra-fast charging, *great* interior, and super solid turning radius. Can’t wait to be able to buy a Zeekr in the US. I know it will happen. It will just take some time.
@@mr2cqql It’s a lie to say that Chinese car companies “don’t want to do or deal business with USA.” They absolutely want to. There’s a big car market here, and Zeekr has visited the US several times with their cars, most recently for their NYSE listing where they had their whole lineup in New York City for everyone to see. Chinese car companies like Zeekr will enter the US market, eventually. There was tons of resistance against Japanese automakers entering the US market in the 70s, but that did not stop the inevitable. The fittest Chinese car companies like BYD and Geely (including Zeekr) are coming. The political shenanigans are just speed bumps. Also, now isn’t necessarily the time for them to enter the US anyway. The car market in China has *way* too many players on the field, and there needs to be a lot of consolidation. That goes for both unprofitable Chinese startups like NIO, and struggling legacy automakers like Nissan. Once the dust settles, I see things moving a lot faster in terms of entering the US market
@@waynelewis9110 you are correct that chinese car maker are willing to enter us market but wrong that it will happen. sadly as sean siad in the video, your politican has decided for you to not get any chinese cars specially in usa.
@@jahangirfds It *will* happen. The fittest Chinese EV makers will enter the US market. It is an inevitability. Politicians come and go. Things change. Also, there will be open space considering the eventual bankruptcy of some legacy automakers like Nissan, Stellantis (at least some of their brands like Chrysler), and possibly even Honda.
@@waynelewis9110 It wasn't the Chinese EV makers who doesn't want to go into the US market but the white house constantly putting sanctions and heavy tariffs on those vehicles which makes them unable to compete to local brands in pricing that stops us from the US; While the trade war still seems to have a long way to go as how the world is today, and the white house won't give up these measures until the very last moment of this zero-sum "game" that US thinks it's in w/ CN while CN on the other hand doesn't like to see.
Ideally those pillars would be narrower, the loading lip for the boot would be about 20cm lower and the rear seat should fold fully flat. Plus about 400kg less kerb weight. Looks good though.
If they had an alternate configuration to use that space, a flexible 7 seater (for heavens sake, it its that wide you could even try get 3 rows of 3, 9 seater!) that you could fold 2 passenger rows to turn it into a _van_ , or drop last row and have massive boot for ikea/bike trips, that would be killer practical. But then if I wanted that, I'm waiting for the Telos truck :P
Great review. For 4:43 on joint B pillars it could be worse for side collision from (wear on mechanized) joints, etc but exciting for automotive design if this works out (for both sides even… maybe some connecting locking mechanism between them for structural integrity if there isn’t.. or they could could overlap to interlock… also subject to wear and tear.. right now it seems like they could wedge on and warp each other).
Love the comment "tough luck". It is even more pertinent as it is a slap in the face to buyers who would like to have this vehicle, but gave their decision power away to someone else that they voted for with absolutely no say in the matter. Talking about USA, Canada and Europe of course.
Not my market segment, but the very minimal exterior design aesthetic without too much ornament looks nice. Unfortunately, the curb weight of EVs appears to be getting out of hand. Even with zero tariffs, there is also zero chance this car would cost 33k € in the EU, like literally every other Chinese-brand car available in the European market not having a one-for-one converted price tag.
You'd never have a 1 to 1 price conversion, the base tarrif was 10% already, there're also added taxes IIRC. This would cost closer or above to the current Zeekr X top trim which is 50k euros, so around 55k maybe.
@@jwickerszh I. Know. You also have to factor in the differences in economic indicators like median income, disposable household income, GDP per capita etc. between the different markets/economies. Yet for some reason, prices are always stated as one-for-one conversions from Renminbi.
@@gummibando in Europe you have countries with much lower everything (income, GDP,etc) like Portugal vs Luxembourg and yet prices for cars are virtually the same... probably in Portugal are even higher due to specific taxes (on ice vehicles) and 23% vat... don't see auto manufacturers having lower prices, by the contrary
Im in australia, and as good as mix is id still rather be able to buy a Baojun Cloud, they make them in right hand drive for Indonesia and India, i want one here in Tasmania.
Even in the Philippines we are paying practically a significant amount for everything. And we don’t get much choices. EVs may be awesome but we would pay so much that the “no tarrif benefits” the government claims is practically lip service.
Nah we got the worlds true ev sales leader here! The first ever batter giga factory that opened in late 2016. We have more renewable energy and nuclear power per capita than even China does. We have more GDP. And our industry which makes the entire world tremble when it cranks up? Is only now just waking up! See admiral yamamato sneaking away from pearl harbor. "for I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant. And filled him with a terrible resolve"
For those who envy us Chinese for such EVs and say, "Sucks being Western", many of us Chinese wish to emigrate to the West. We have been doing so for years and are willing to risk our life in order not to live under communism. We have to use a VPN (illegal according to the CCP) to use TH-cam or even say: We wish we had basic human rights, not be subject to CCP propaganda (there is only one source of official news 联播) and censorship, the freedom to vote, use international social media, own guns, freely worshp, etc.
I couldn't help but feel they sacrificed everything for that rotating chair. It was quite a disappointment to see a van-shaped EV that was supposed to do space magic but achieved neither three rows nor a trunk to fit the entire family's bikes and stuffs (they didn't even show us the trunk! That tells how unimpressive it is). This car is undoubtedly designed specificly for premium taxi services. The ultimate Alphard-killer. The in-law hauler, maybe
100% the car that no one wants. In Europe every family had a 5+2 or 7 seater with foldable seats for bigger trunk when required. All they need is space, trays, usb chargers and cup holders. The rest is just adding cost. Practicality gone mad. Like american cars in the 50s and 60s. Lots of stuff no one wanted. All its doing is adding weight which eats battery or takes day to charge at home.
UK doesn’t have tariffs, yet all the Chinese EV’s launched here are double their Chinese prices. Not sure whats going on. Do the Chinese gov remove their subsidies for exports? I read the Chinese manufacturers have wafer thin margins on their Chinese sales and they want fatter ones for their export sales, otherwise they won’t survive. Overheads are definitely higher in the UK (transportation, storage, dealer salaries etc.). I haven’t seen a single compelling Chinese EV launched in the UK so far. Once you factor in their price, the ones that are decent quality fly very close in price to Tesla which has a supercharger network. European incumbents are also improving leaps and bounds. Renaults new EV’s for example are starting to get very good indeed, and I’d prefer one over cheaper Chinese cars like the Omoda 5, which gets terrible reviews.
I see this as an cheating attempt by Waimo. Placing an order and rejecting after the manufacturer has spend a significant amount of money means just trying to discourage.
Maybe your mind still cant comprehend a car like this but its ok you dont loose nothing and there are thousand car some are maybe just for you but not this zeekr😊
I love it because its so unique, so 'Avant-garde'. A Citroen badge would not look out of place on this vehicle and thats why I would buy it. There are too many EVs now that all look the same so there is no passion or desire to buy them.
Dont get me wrong if this car wear apple car badge also look ok😅😂
I agree about Citroen and the Baojun Cloud would make a great Fiat.
thanks for your videos in English . really easy to understand latest Chinese EVs. 👍👍
Content like these makes you appreciate a foreign product more than if it’s just subtitles.
Lucas Sim also does it for me culinary-wise
This car might not be the most worth car to buy, but its definitely the best innovative car since 2020. 10/10.
When I saw the huge door opening, I assume that the side impact would be a disaster, but then I saw it is made by Zeekr/Geely, then yep, nothing to worry about.
Great review and insights as normal, congrats to Geely for coming up and continuing with the development after Waymo collab stopped..
I have already went to see this car in Zeekr home in Beijing yesterday. It’s really cool!
So much better looking and more functional and cheaper than ID buzz
Sean, the Zeekr Mix is gonna send shivers down the chasis of Toyota Vellfire and Alphard.
Rip to the nissan serena, honda stepwagon, toyota voxy
This is awesome for families!
The central seat seems to be quite limited, though.
this is basically a almost luxury 4 seater +1... but very interesting proposition... let's see if it reaches Europe one day... but that width and weight are really three down points for me
11:58 ouch! That was tough!
Chinese cars for china. Easy as that
An excellent vehicle! Zeekr deserves all the kudos that they can get for making this vehicle. Unique design, ultra-fast charging, *great* interior, and super solid turning radius. Can’t wait to be able to buy a Zeekr in the US. I know it will happen. It will just take some time.
No , It will not period. Because most of the major Chinese brands don't want to do or deal business with USA.
@@mr2cqql It’s a lie to say that Chinese car companies “don’t want to do or deal business with USA.” They absolutely want to. There’s a big car market here, and Zeekr has visited the US several times with their cars, most recently for their NYSE listing where they had their whole lineup in New York City for everyone to see.
Chinese car companies like Zeekr will enter the US market, eventually. There was tons of resistance against Japanese automakers entering the US market in the 70s, but that did not stop the inevitable. The fittest Chinese car companies like BYD and Geely (including Zeekr) are coming. The political shenanigans are just speed bumps.
Also, now isn’t necessarily the time for them to enter the US anyway. The car market in China has *way* too many players on the field, and there needs to be a lot of consolidation. That goes for both unprofitable Chinese startups like NIO, and struggling legacy automakers like Nissan. Once the dust settles, I see things moving a lot faster in terms of entering the US market
@@waynelewis9110 you are correct that chinese car maker are willing to enter us market but wrong that it will happen. sadly as sean siad in the video, your politican has decided for you to not get any chinese cars specially in usa.
@@jahangirfds It *will* happen. The fittest Chinese EV makers will enter the US market. It is an inevitability. Politicians come and go. Things change. Also, there will be open space considering the eventual bankruptcy of some legacy automakers like Nissan, Stellantis (at least some of their brands like Chrysler), and possibly even Honda.
@@waynelewis9110 It wasn't the Chinese EV makers who doesn't want to go into the US market but the white house constantly putting sanctions and heavy tariffs on those vehicles which makes them unable to compete to local brands in pricing that stops us from the US; While the trade war still seems to have a long way to go as how the world is today, and the white house won't give up these measures until the very last moment of this zero-sum "game" that US thinks it's in w/ CN while CN on the other hand doesn't like to see.
Great review as always. Not very efficient but still a very nice and intuitive family van
Quite impressive vehicle! Hope to have this here very soon!
Ideally those pillars would be narrower, the loading lip for the boot would be about 20cm lower and the rear seat should fold fully flat. Plus about 400kg less kerb weight. Looks good though.
Can't wait to get my Zeekr!
Love the way this guy covers cars. No nonsense, lots of info.
If they had an alternate configuration to use that space, a flexible 7 seater (for heavens sake, it its that wide you could even try get 3 rows of 3, 9 seater!) that you could fold 2 passenger rows to turn it into a _van_ , or drop last row and have massive boot for ikea/bike trips, that would be killer practical. But then if I wanted that, I'm waiting for the Telos truck :P
Nice Job Sean 👌
Great review. For 4:43 on joint B pillars it could be worse for side collision from (wear on mechanized) joints, etc but exciting for automotive design if this works out (for both sides even… maybe some connecting locking mechanism between them for structural integrity if there isn’t.. or they could could overlap to interlock… also subject to wear and tear.. right now it seems like they could wedge on and warp each other).
Awesome review, as always! A lot of great points in this one, help provide a lot of context to knowing the Mix.
let's have a f2f meeting.
employee: 😑
Zeekr Mix is so sleek and futuristic! Wow! Amazing design! Love it! ❤
Love the comment "tough luck". It is even more pertinent as it is a slap in the face to buyers who would like to have this vehicle, but gave their decision power away to someone else that they voted for with absolutely no say in the matter. Talking about USA, Canada and Europe of course.
中国人说西方人有投票权。“你可以用选票狠狠教训那些你不喜欢的官员。”但事实好像并非如此。
I enjoyed watching you in this spot a lot !
On the upside, zeeker is in Australia and probably other RHD countries, can't wait to see this EV in the mix.
This ZEEKR Mix is fantastic! Very unique event from Geely, haha.
Wow, this brings Chrysler Grand Voyager vibes which i always loved as a family car. Bring back MPVs!
Very very interesting MPV - Love the possibilities , the good ideas . Congratulation 🥰
Such a nice and practical car. Chapeau. 😊
Quality of review is outstanding
This is a great platform in the coming era of autonomous driving.
Thanks for this honest review
this is truly innovative engineering
This is the perfect vehicle for tall people, e.g. basketball & volleyball players.
A minivan of the future! I wish this was available in Canada.
The fun fact is that although these Chinese EVs are subject to significant tariffs, they still remain considerably competitive.
Awesome car and video!!! 👏👏👏👏
Great summary. Holy shit. 2m wide. That's the same as a standard van
This looks like a loaf of bread, but I want one!
It's a comfortable living room on wheels. I love it.
Thank you 👍🏻🔋
hate the ALPHARD vertical front grilles.
Glad to see them gone.
We have Zero tarifs here in Australia, yey😊
Not my market segment, but the very minimal exterior design aesthetic without too much ornament looks nice. Unfortunately, the curb weight of EVs appears to be getting out of hand.
Even with zero tariffs, there is also zero chance this car would cost 33k € in the EU, like literally every other Chinese-brand car available in the European market not having a one-for-one converted price tag.
You'd never have a 1 to 1 price conversion, the base tarrif was 10% already, there're also added taxes IIRC.
This would cost closer or above to the current Zeekr X top trim which is 50k euros, so around 55k maybe.
@@jwickerszh I. Know.
You also have to factor in the differences in economic indicators like median income, disposable household income, GDP per capita etc. between the different markets/economies. Yet for some reason, prices are always stated as one-for-one conversions from Renminbi.
@@gummibando in Europe you have countries with much lower everything (income, GDP,etc) like Portugal vs Luxembourg and yet prices for cars are virtually the same... probably in Portugal are even higher due to specific taxes (on ice vehicles) and 23% vat... don't see auto manufacturers having lower prices, by the contrary
@@freddykrueger79 Point missed. I was not comparing the intra-European differences.
@@gummibando That gives a common point of comparison.
Sean is the best from china..great contents.
Incredible car, wow...lost for words
This has the potential to be the perfect family car
Actually really like it 😊❤
very beautiful car
Additional 20% on the already minimum 10% without conversion losses and no transport
Really a great car! Can you move the back seats and flatten them?
A concept made real
This car looks like it's wearing sunglasses with the earhook and the cutout to put the nose
Im in australia, and as good as mix is id still rather be able to buy a Baojun Cloud, they make them in right hand drive for Indonesia and India, i want one here in Tasmania.
Zeekr translate to "d*ck" in some certain language. I'll leave it at that
Dxck happens to be a common name in English anyway
Geely is owner of some brands outside of China. Maybe a smart #bus?
Hi! Please give me your thoughts comparing it to XPENG X9. Thanks 🙏
If placed in europe i see it being a great taxi or uber car. Much better openning than most cars.
Even in the Philippines we are paying practically a significant amount for everything. And we don’t get much choices. EVs may be awesome but we would pay so much that the “no tarrif benefits” the government claims is practically lip service.
Sucks to be western these days
China's rise today in consumer products reminds me of Japan's rise back in the 80s.
Nah we got the worlds true ev sales leader here! The first ever batter giga factory that opened in late 2016. We have more renewable energy and nuclear power per capita than even China does. We have more GDP. And our industry which makes the entire world tremble when it cranks up?
Is only now just waking up!
See admiral yamamato sneaking away from pearl harbor. "for I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant. And filled him with a terrible resolve"
Compare this with the ID buzz from VW we got for $90K
For those who envy us Chinese for such EVs and say, "Sucks being Western", many of us Chinese wish to emigrate to the West. We have been doing so for years and are willing to risk our life in order not to live under communism. We have to use a VPN (illegal according to the CCP) to use TH-cam or even say: We wish we had basic human rights, not be subject to CCP propaganda (there is only one source of official news 联播) and censorship, the freedom to vote, use international social media, own guns, freely worshp, etc.
Waymo is using this car in America btw
how's the sound proofing?
If this were available in the United States it would be very popular. I like it a lot more than the VW id Buzz
Can you open the front door when the front wheels are turned?
The vehicle will automatically turn the front wheels when the front door open.
1:00 I think it's one bike for anyone who wants to go alone one a short bike trip
I cant relate the video title with the video 😅
Tough luck
This is an amazing car, I would prefer it even over S class.
China won the electric car race 🏆
MIX=MAX!!
My new favorite electric car!
Can you buy it with AWD?
No room for a front motor I’m afraid.
Robotaxi should be bi directional like Zoox.
Slap on a volvo badge, manufacture it in volvo factories outside of china, it will sell like a hot cake
Zeekr is really kicking ass. and the western countries crying instead of inveting. Awesome opponent to the lame ID Buzz
I couldn't help but feel they sacrificed everything for that rotating chair. It was quite a disappointment to see a van-shaped EV that was supposed to do space magic but achieved neither three rows nor a trunk to fit the entire family's bikes and stuffs (they didn't even show us the trunk! That tells how unimpressive it is).
This car is undoubtedly designed specificly for premium taxi services. The ultimate Alphard-killer. The in-law hauler, maybe
100% the car that no one wants. In Europe every family had a 5+2 or 7 seater with foldable seats for bigger trunk when required. All they need is space, trays, usb chargers and cup holders. The rest is just adding cost. Practicality gone mad. Like american cars in the 50s and 60s. Lots of stuff no one wanted. All its doing is adding weight which eats battery or takes day to charge at home.
I mean it’s of very humble size and enlargement would be the easiest thing to do if they want to. They are making this mainly for Chinese market so
Looks awesome but too wide 😅
No tariffs in oz
本身车宽就达2米,侧开门本来是好事,但前门可不止侧开门一样,这门其实要更大的空间才能打开…………,老式小区停车的位置本来就很紧,想想想…………。最好亲自去试试吧。
The next phase or application of this MPV will be robotaxi for China! It could with the flip of a switch. Tesla steps aside please.
极氪的 ceo 说了,极氪不造无聊的车。mix 不是一台概念车,这是量产车,会行驶在中国的大街小巷上。
It'll cost Americans 200% sale price to buy one.
Any 3rd row option?
It seems that this car allows me to use it normally without paying any extra fees for people with leg disabilities like me.
I want this car, bring it to EU❤
12:06 😂
UK doesn’t have tariffs, yet all the Chinese EV’s launched here are double their Chinese prices. Not sure whats going on. Do the Chinese gov remove their subsidies for exports? I read the Chinese manufacturers have wafer thin margins on their Chinese sales and they want fatter ones for their export sales, otherwise they won’t survive. Overheads are definitely higher in the UK (transportation, storage, dealer salaries etc.).
I haven’t seen a single compelling Chinese EV launched in the UK so far. Once you factor in their price, the ones that are decent quality fly very close in price to Tesla which has a supercharger network. European incumbents are also improving leaps and bounds. Renaults new EV’s for example are starting to get very good indeed, and I’d prefer one over cheaper Chinese cars like the Omoda 5, which gets terrible reviews.
Probably the margins your importers demand.
I thought that this car costs around $200k. Well done China.
40000 USD
If you want light geely made for you the galaxy e5
You cannot sleep in it?
5:19 sure, but I don’t wanna have to be the one tryna get out of the car after a side-crash
get out the other side...
The BMW i3 was the same, no issues so far
Most cars cannot open their doors after a severe side collision.
The car has a poor front visibility because you're quite short.
None of these scenarios work because people are not allowed to drive cars on grass next to ponds in China
I see this as an cheating attempt by Waimo. Placing an order and rejecting after the manufacturer has spend a significant amount of money means just trying to discourage.
no such thing as darex or not, do, can do etc any nmw s perfx
is genius creation 👍
1:03 i doubt people who use this car in East Asia (executives with chauffeur) will ever use this configuration 🤣
Seemed over engineered..
Maybe your mind still cant comprehend a car like this but its ok you dont loose nothing and there are thousand car some are maybe just for you but not this zeekr😊
then take a look at the 99th iteration of the honda crv. seems more your alley
Tough luck, lol
nice tech but a not a fan of design
big L to Waymo and US