You just supplemented my memories big time of visiting communicore in the early 80’s. I decided that I wanted to be a computer programmer from that visit. We got an Atari 800 and I was going to learn Basic. I tried but couldn’t learn on my own. I was 10 years old. Ended up getting a piano degree. But I remember being so blown away by Communicore.
I went to Walt Disney World in middle June 1984 for the first time and stayed on the property at the Club Lake Villa in the Disney Village Resort, which was perfect for our needs in accommodations and atmosphere. It was so incredibly overwhelming that halfway through our seven-night stay, we booked the first week of June the following year at the same accommodations. The EPCOT Communicore East & West were an oasis, giving us a rest while still exploring and interacting. Thank you for these amazingly beautiful and well done memories.
It's great to see the "Complete Ultimate Tribute" series continue. Thanks for all your hard work putting these together, Martin! It's greatly appreciated.
glad Living with the Land and spaceship earth (the ride part) is all there but I miss Horizons, and the original (including the second floor, not just the ride) Imagination Pavilion .... Commonicore ... man i miss the old epcot ... never really cared for Universe of Energy
Xmetal my dad took us the second day Epcot was opened. As many times as we went to Disney that was the one day that I remember everything. Let’s not forget the awesomeness of World of Motion too!
I dunno... ...having the entire west side of Communicore become a character meet and greet doesn’t seem like a necessary change. And now it’s nothing. So... ...yea “progress.”
@@jwprimetime9795 Innoventions was pretty neat in the 90s. Like attending a year round CES. Problem was that the technology evolved too fast to keep up, and Disney thrived on sponsors to showcase their new innovations. Once sponsors were no longer interested, as many other EPCOT attractions also faced, things began to shut down and decay began. I mean, I remember when they updated Spaceship Earth. They wanted us to stare at a touchscreen during the entire decent back down. It probably was pretty futuristic feeling for the time, but by the opening it was already outdated, and we all just missed the previous version.
I L-O-V-E the intro! The timing with the music and the music itself is awesome! So awesome that I watched it so many times and haven’t even began watching the video!
Amazing video!! Thanks, Martin!! I only saw Communicore once, in August 1993, thanks for the memory refresh!! It's funny how some scenes are locked in one's mind, lighting, colors, etc. and this video brought those back.
Comminicore was something we usually bypassed to go on the attractions sadly. I do remember eating at that restaurant though. I have a plush Mickey Mouse in that silver spacesuit I got from the gift shop as a kid. It's easy to take things for granted, and then it's gone.
We went in there I think 2012 and it was horrifying to see what had become of Communicore West! It was literally deserted and only thing in there was a pitch to take a segway around EPCOT for the day.
I always had fond (if vague) memories of the Backstage Magic show, although I misremembered the name of the computer character as "Pixel," not "I/O"... But now I see that's the name of one of the top-spinning robots! I feel like you've given me back a piece of my childhood and I don't know how to thank you other than by saying it: thanks so much for this and all your great videos! 😀
I've seen it twice - in 1994 and in 2012. 1994 was the boom period of when SEGA took over the Communicore West facility and put all their stuff in it like Mega Drive/Genesis etc.
I have been waiting for this video since you did you CC to Innoventions vids. As usual, you have surpassed expectations. I appreciate all your hard work, Martin.
Amazing work! Thank you so very much for putting these together. I remember visiting Epcot in 1983 and was in awe, your video brings back those amazing memories, and provides so much in-depth insight into the history. Thank you!
Another instant classic! I'm leaving for WDW in 5 days- ahhhh! BTW, I picked up a Canon M50 to shoot photos and videos. Thanks for responding to my email, Martin!
1:02:36 whoa so they altered the dedication speech to remove "EPCOT Center" and created a new plaque to put in the front of the park? I really hate how they've ditched the name EPCOT Center. It just sounds so much cooler.
because the original name for it was "Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow", which originally when Walt designed it, it was to be an actual village of sorts where families would live, everybody would have a job no matter what one they got and kids would be taught at a school that was to be built as well as a shopping mall that the train would take them to and from. But, when Walt died (he actually would often or not lay in his hospital bed looking up at the ceiling and imagining more and more of the EPCOT dream), Roy Disney III would take the role BUT instead of what was supposed to be Walt's actual dream ended up being this hence why it was called "EPCOT Centre" and now it's just "EPCOT".
Due to the release of the Internet and other sources, CommuniCore’s facility was completely revolutionized by Innoventions, which featured a futuristic gallery of items that would affect everyday homes instead of scientific exhibits. I am fine with the fact that Disney retired CommuniCore, for the sake of featuring inventions which would not be confusing to guests.
You know, for Disney (and because I love the concept) they should make a career center in EPCOT. Imagine showing all of these young people what jobs exist at Walt Disney World (also just in general).
At the 1:08 minute mark, you'll see EPCOT Outreach and the Teacher's Center, located in Communicore West. EPCOT Outreach was a research library where visitors could explore future Disney expansion plans, including hotels and parks. It also offered resources on Disney trivia, history, and heritage, and even provided information on hydroponic plant growth-covering anything Disney-related, not just EPCOT. The Teacher's Center, meanwhile, featured the latest computer software from Apple, tailored for educators on vacation. It offered complete lesson plans, including instructions on teaching students how to build geodesic domes like EPCOT's Spaceship Earth. - Jake Poore
Man I miss this Exhibitation makes me cry seeing this. So many good memories and I remember FutureCom and FutureChoice theater. FutureChoice Theater was next to MouseGear’s First Entrance entering Innoventions West and Communicore West. All the rides and attractions I remembered and I remember going down the escalators from Epcot’s Computer Central Backstage Magic. I remember Stargate and Pasta Piazza Restaurante and Centorium. I love everything about it. I miss Old Epcot. Guardians of The Galaxy that is not Epcot and Frozen come on bro. Disney needs to be inspired and create there own rides and have new ideas like Communicore, Universe of Energy, etc etc. Character and Meets are Epcot. But come on really frozen and guardian of the galaxy unbelievable. But nonetheless I want old Epcot to return.
I hope one day it does I wasn't alive to experience it but watching so many videos about it it must have been breathtaking seeing some of the tech at Epcot back in the 80s
17:10 Jesus, it's like watching positive futurism die. Just a couple more years, and it would be nothing but people telling us nonstop how we should be fearing the future. :-/
@ 16.17 being that incomplete two months before opening!!! Thats like the time lapse of DIsneyland just a few weeks before opening. Its just hard to believe people weren't freaking out.
in 10 years all of the displays and exhibits were hopelessly outdated EPCOT Centre was an ambitious concept, but was always destined to fail in its delivery of a constantly evolving technological showcase
@Nocturne22 - Frankly, there were aspects of Communicore that were dated by ‘84, when I got to visit (I mean, who hadn’t touched a touchscreen computer at a computer shop by then?) but it was still utterly thrilling, and completely hands-on. All that would’ve been required to stay on top of technology were a series of minor, evolving, yearly updates… say 10% of the space every year. The real problem was a lack of vision at the top, and an unwillingness to part with even the meager funds to accomplish this: Michael Eisner never “got” amusement parks, beyond roller coasters and as billboards for Disney’s own IP. When he was lucky enough to stumble into the company while some visionary directors were making great movies again, faced with the unexpectedly enormous profits rolling in… he sank those into poor misguided Euro Disney, in his attempt to “make his mark,” while skimping on any project which he had not originated, i.e. EPCOT Center. Like all these cookie-cutter CEOs the ‘80s produced, when offered a choice between making long-term investments with a great ROI projection, and financing R&D, and raising employee perks, and improving customer experiences on the one hand, OR… raising his own salary, and that of the board, and engineering stock buybacks and the like on the other… of course he chose the shortsighted route. Because why do something visionary, when you can just build more rolly-coasties and line all your buddies’ pockets with all that sweet, sweet movie money? Remember, Eisner at Disney is the same era which witnessed another cookie-cutter CEO - this one from a sugar-water company, I believe - ousting Steve Jobs from Apple, then nearly bankrupting the company running it like a soda peddler would. Just massive nationwide cases of blind capital consolidation, always at the expense of whatever was personal or human or adventurous or unique… That whole decade was nearly the end of the USA, in a way… or perhaps it _will_ have been the end of the USA, depending on how things continue to go. 😕
I have an important question. At point 1:14:15, what is that lyric? It sounds like he's saying "And although he isn't masculine and feminine..." something??
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This video is an impressive accomplishment. I wish EPCOT was treated with the same loving care that you expressed by making this video.
You just supplemented my memories big time of visiting communicore in the early 80’s. I decided that I wanted to be a computer programmer from that visit. We got an Atari 800 and I was going to learn Basic. I tried but couldn’t learn on my own. I was 10 years old. Ended up getting a piano degree. But I remember being so blown away by Communicore.
I went to Walt Disney World in middle June 1984 for the first time and stayed on the property at the Club Lake Villa in the Disney Village Resort, which was perfect for our needs in accommodations and atmosphere. It was so incredibly overwhelming that halfway through our seven-night stay, we booked the first week of June the following year at the same accommodations.
The EPCOT Communicore East & West were an oasis, giving us a rest while still exploring and interacting.
Thank you for these amazingly beautiful and well done memories.
It's great to see the "Complete Ultimate Tribute" series continue. Thanks for all your hard work putting these together, Martin! It's greatly appreciated.
I know things have to change and evolve but this is the Epcot I’ll always love. So many childhood memories made in this park.
glad Living with the Land and spaceship earth (the ride part) is all there but I miss Horizons, and the original (including the second floor, not just the ride) Imagination Pavilion .... Commonicore ... man i miss the old epcot ... never really cared for Universe of Energy
Xmetal my dad took us the second day Epcot was opened. As many times as we went to Disney that was the one day that I remember everything. Let’s not forget the awesomeness of World of Motion too!
I dunno... ...having the entire west side of Communicore become a character meet and greet doesn’t seem like a necessary change. And now it’s nothing. So... ...yea “progress.”
@@UmmYeahOk that version of Epcot totally sucked ass. But man 1983-early 90’s it was amazing!
@@jwprimetime9795 Innoventions was pretty neat in the 90s. Like attending a year round CES. Problem was that the technology evolved too fast to keep up, and Disney thrived on sponsors to showcase their new innovations. Once sponsors were no longer interested, as many other EPCOT attractions also faced, things began to shut down and decay began. I mean, I remember when they updated Spaceship Earth. They wanted us to stare at a touchscreen during the entire decent back down. It probably was pretty futuristic feeling for the time, but by the opening it was already outdated, and we all just missed the previous version.
Martin, you've done it again! Never failed to amaze us! Can't wait for the next adventure!
Good the music in this is just amazing
You have just rekindled another portion of my childhood.
Thanks for your time. It was nice to see what we missed. Our first trip was 1995.
I wish I could take my son to the late 80s and we could visit Epcot as it use to be. I have such fond memories of going there with my family.
Martin, I can't imagine the amount of work that must go into these amazing vidoes. Thanks for all the hard work!
Ooh, perfect timing. Just the thing to put on this afternoon! Thanks for all your hard work on these!
Great video Martin! Found a lot of the Epcot souvenir video music in this one! 😂😉 Great to hear it and well sourced my friend! 👍👍👍👍
You're the best, Martin! Thanks so much for all of your hard work in keeping the memories alive.
The "wonderful new smart telephone" song sure came true. How funny!
I L-O-V-E the intro! The timing with the music and the music itself is awesome! So awesome that I watched it so many times and haven’t even began watching the video!
Amazing video!! Thanks, Martin!! I only saw Communicore once, in August 1993, thanks for the memory refresh!! It's funny how some scenes are locked in one's mind, lighting, colors, etc. and this video brought those back.
I don’t know how you do these vids, but keep em coming! I live for them! Thank you ❤️
WEDWAY through Communicore? That would have been great! It's sad to see cool ideas on the cutting room floor that were never realized!
Comminicore was something we usually bypassed to go on the attractions sadly. I do remember eating at that restaurant though. I have a plush Mickey Mouse in that silver spacesuit I got from the gift shop as a kid. It's easy to take things for granted, and then it's gone.
We went in there I think 2012 and it was horrifying to see what had become of Communicore West! It was literally deserted and only thing in there was a pitch to take a segway around EPCOT for the day.
Excellent Martin! Another gem in your collection!
I remember making restaurant reservations in Communicore. Great memory.
I always had fond (if vague) memories of the Backstage Magic show, although I misremembered the name of the computer character as "Pixel," not "I/O"... But now I see that's the name of one of the top-spinning robots!
I feel like you've given me back a piece of my childhood and I don't know how to thank you other than by saying it: thanks so much for this and all your great videos! 😀
Fantastic video! Makes me wish I got to see Communicore back in its prime.
I've seen it twice - in 1994 and in 2012. 1994 was the boom period of when SEGA took over the Communicore West facility and put all their stuff in it like Mega Drive/Genesis etc.
I have been waiting for this video since you did you CC to Innoventions vids. As usual, you have surpassed expectations. I appreciate all your hard work, Martin.
Amazing work! Thank you so very much for putting these together. I remember visiting Epcot in 1983 and was in awe, your video brings back those amazing memories, and provides so much in-depth insight into the history. Thank you!
I loved the show backstage maic at communicore and learning about the history of computers.
Really enjoying this! Thank you for creating this video!
Look at all those benches! The ponds were a revelation too. It looked so much less like a six flags back then.
It never really looked like a Six flags
RIP..........Comminicore..........Thank You Martin!
Another instant classic! I'm leaving for WDW in 5 days- ahhhh! BTW, I picked up a Canon M50 to shoot photos and videos. Thanks for responding to my email, Martin!
We went on Backstage Magic about 3 or 4 times between 1988 and 1993. It was an interesting experience.
There is nothing better than retro Epcot concept art
The 'Age of Information' song was pretty much SPOT ON.
Great job I loved it, brought back so many memories thank you so much keep the videos coming.
1:02:36 whoa so they altered the dedication speech to remove "EPCOT Center" and created a new plaque to put in the front of the park? I really hate how they've ditched the name EPCOT Center. It just sounds so much cooler.
because the original name for it was "Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow", which originally when Walt designed it, it was to be an actual village of sorts where families would live, everybody would have a job no matter what one they got and kids would be taught at a school that was to be built as well as a shopping mall that the train would take them to and from.
But, when Walt died (he actually would often or not lay in his hospital bed looking up at the ceiling and imagining more and more of the EPCOT dream), Roy Disney III would take the role BUT instead of what was supposed to be Walt's actual dream ended up being this hence why it was called "EPCOT Centre" and now it's just "EPCOT".
Backstage Magic was definitely a treat to see. Even heard that the EPCOT model at 48:50 is still sitting there backstage.
Due to the release of the Internet and other sources, CommuniCore’s facility was completely revolutionized by Innoventions, which featured a futuristic gallery of items that would affect everyday homes instead of scientific exhibits. I am fine with the fact that Disney retired CommuniCore, for the sake of featuring inventions which would not be confusing to guests.
You know, for Disney (and because I love the concept) they should make a career center in EPCOT. Imagine showing all of these young people what jobs exist at Walt Disney World (also just in general).
Anyone noticed that the music that began at 5:26-15:38, was from the Epcot Center Souvenir video? brought back memories.
At the 1:08 minute mark, you'll see EPCOT Outreach and the Teacher's Center, located in Communicore West. EPCOT Outreach was a research library where visitors could explore future Disney expansion plans, including hotels and parks. It also offered resources on Disney trivia, history, and heritage, and even provided information on hydroponic plant growth-covering anything Disney-related, not just EPCOT. The Teacher's Center, meanwhile, featured the latest computer software from Apple, tailored for educators on vacation. It offered complete lesson plans, including instructions on teaching students how to build geodesic domes like EPCOT's Spaceship Earth.
- Jake Poore
Yep the guy singing the Astuter Computer song is exactly what I imagined
sounds like a Monty Python skit
Oh, why can’t Epcot be like this nowadays?
Agreed, we need attractions that inspire us to have ideas.
For real!
Well it seems to be being fixed now
@@cliptrashbin2389 Unfortunately.
Because money
This footage is like crack!
Gotta have it! Thank you for putting together such great videos for us epcot nerds!
Man I miss this Exhibitation makes me cry seeing this. So many good memories and I remember FutureCom and FutureChoice theater. FutureChoice Theater was next to MouseGear’s First Entrance entering Innoventions West and Communicore West. All the rides and attractions I remembered and I remember going down the escalators from Epcot’s Computer Central Backstage Magic. I remember Stargate and Pasta Piazza Restaurante and Centorium. I love everything about it. I miss Old Epcot. Guardians of The Galaxy that is not Epcot and Frozen come on bro. Disney needs to be inspired and create there own rides and have new ideas like Communicore, Universe of Energy, etc etc. Character and Meets are Epcot. But come on really frozen and guardian of the galaxy unbelievable. But nonetheless I want old Epcot to return.
I hope one day it does I wasn't alive to experience it but watching so many videos about it it must have been breathtaking seeing some of the tech at Epcot back in the 80s
It's apparently coming back!
21:04 the computer 🖥 song 🎶.
17:10 Jesus, it's like watching positive futurism die. Just a couple more years, and it would be nothing but people telling us nonstop how we should be fearing the future. :-/
@ 16.17 being that incomplete two months before opening!!! Thats like the time lapse of DIsneyland just a few weeks before opening. Its just hard to believe people weren't freaking out.
Excellent job. Great footage. Maybe try up-scaling with AI like gigapixel?
Your videos are great, although it'd be great if you did a voiceover instead just screen text. Still great, though.
Are you going to do a complete tribute to Innoventions?
It's funny, that they literally predicted watches to talk to people and other things and now we've got apple watches, samsung watches and fitbits!
31:37-31:55 Cue "The Birth of Tron" from the Tron soundtrack
Can’t believe that Joseph Stalin was Considered for person of the century
What music piece are you using in the end credits?
I've heard some of this music from the L.A. Olympics in 1984.
Those songs on opening day were so corny, love it, lol
in 10 years all of the displays and exhibits were hopelessly outdated
EPCOT Centre was an ambitious concept, but was always destined to fail in its delivery of a constantly evolving technological showcase
@Nocturne22 - Frankly, there were aspects of Communicore that were dated by ‘84, when I got to visit (I mean, who hadn’t touched a touchscreen computer at a computer shop by then?) but it was still utterly thrilling, and completely hands-on.
All that would’ve been required to stay on top of technology were a series of minor, evolving, yearly updates… say 10% of the space every year.
The real problem was a lack of vision at the top, and an unwillingness to part with even the meager funds to accomplish this: Michael Eisner never “got” amusement parks, beyond roller coasters and as billboards for Disney’s own IP.
When he was lucky enough to stumble into the company while some visionary directors were making great movies again, faced with the unexpectedly enormous profits rolling in… he sank those into poor misguided Euro Disney, in his attempt to “make his mark,” while skimping on any project which he had not originated, i.e. EPCOT Center.
Like all these cookie-cutter CEOs the ‘80s produced, when offered a choice between making long-term investments with a great ROI projection, and financing R&D, and raising employee perks, and improving customer experiences on the one hand, OR… raising his own salary, and that of the board, and engineering stock buybacks and the like on the other… of course he chose the shortsighted route.
Because why do something visionary, when you can just build more rolly-coasties and line all your buddies’ pockets with all that sweet, sweet movie money?
Remember, Eisner at Disney is the same era which witnessed another cookie-cutter CEO - this one from a sugar-water company, I believe - ousting Steve Jobs from Apple, then nearly bankrupting the company running it like a soda peddler would. Just massive nationwide cases of blind capital consolidation, always at the expense of whatever was personal or human or adventurous or unique…
That whole decade was nearly the end of the USA, in a way… or perhaps it _will_ have been the end of the USA, depending on how things continue to go. 😕
Opening crew of EPCOT, Communicore East.
Can you list the sources for the videos?
Where’s The Computer Song?
I would of thought IBM would of been a no brainer as a sponsor
whats the name of that song on 13:12
holy crap! only 27% people thought the right to a fair trial was important! Terrifying.
I wonder if when the workers who were chasing communicore to innoventions and got rid of the sign I wonder they kept it or someone hid it
I have an important question. At point 1:14:15, what is that lyric? It sounds like he's saying "And although he isn't masculine and feminine..." something??
1:16:34 there still exists a stairway sign on a door underground that mentions the forum. Little hidden tribute
MrAwesomedude808 yes
Why did it change to Innoventions after that? Also I would love to see a tribute to Innoventions!
Should be a two part Innoventions tribute somewhere in this channel :)
Communicure was better
Does anybody know what song is playing at 30:29?
Over a year later and I found it! th-cam.com/video/_JdDOszI9vA/w-d-xo.html
Have you found more footage of the astuter Computer Revue? I've been looking everywhere.
Dontdriveat88 nope :(
@@marni1971 You just took my metaphorical heart and shredded it.
It just popped up a week ago. th-cam.com/video/fxnSSvFilGY/w-d-xo.html
The time when we thought technology would bring us utopia.
Communicore is back! Kinda... Ok not really... It's only communicore in name, not concept or execution. 😥
who wants to go to a business fair, or educational.. whatever, on vacation... not anyone cool or fun, thats for sure
😂😂😂😂🤦🏼♀️
castmembers had some ugly costumes back then