The G.O.A.T. playing against coke heads, expansion teams, Nike promotion, David Stern, slow ass white boys, Wilt averaged 50, Russell got 11 rings, Oscar Robertson averaged damn near a triple double for his career, Bron has 40,000 now how is Jordan the G.O.A.T. of anything plus Dennis Rodman said in 1996 " This league is filtered and watered down"
great production, really surprised by your subscriber count (not a shot) just think your content is fairly high quality for where your at, probably a new channel but your off to a great start. would also suggest to familiarize yourselves with the audience a little bit, as you guys start posting more at some point it would be kind of nice to get to know you guys other then just your names, yalls personalities are pretty dope would be nice hearing more abt u without getting too off track with the whole basketball subject other then that keep it up will be subscribing
Didn't Mike lock down VC and others at 38 and which Championship did Pippen get without Mike actually what Finals did he get to without Mike and 2nd round of the playoffs don't count😂😂😂😂😂
Well Mike did more with less in less time Jordan never seen a game 7 never been swept I'm the Finals 10x scoring champ 2 time steals leader was leading all SG in blocks before Wade 9 times all First team defense Defensive player of the year and and between 38-40 Mike had back to back 50 point games and had players younger in skates so the comparison is crazy
The disconnect with fans, media and nba players with this "debate" is that everyone views it from different perspectives. Most people that have MJ and Kobe over Lebron is grading the olayer skillset, how much they won, their passion and competitive edge and people that have Lebron over Kobe or #2 to MJ is value stats and the paper resume. If you value winning and how close to flawless the player is individually its hard to value Lebron over MJ and Kobe.
It's no debate cause he just not good enough, he came out of high school started and played 20 years of course his point total gonna be high but you have to watch it to judge it and jordan is the guy if you didn't watch then how can you compare lebron had so many road bumps teaming up with other not just good but great players his 3 pt no defense era jordan just better, we all gotta stop winning at the highest levels matter
Agree that winning matters. Do we act like Bron hasn't won, though? He has 4. Made 8 straight finals. Has avg'd 28-8-8 basically his entire career. I think it is CRAZY to say there's no debate. No problem saying the GOAT is MJ, but no debate at all? Cmon now. - Jeremiah
No disrespect to Kobe. I think he’s unquestionably top 10, but I have him from like 5-7. Me personally I’m taking Tim Duncan over Kobe. I think Kareem does get disrespected. I think he’s solidified as the 3rd best player of all time given. After Bron, MJ, and Kareem, you have: Magic, Bird, Duncan, Kobe, and Shaq at 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 in any order Russell, Steph, Hakeem, Wilt and KD at 9, 10, 11, and 12 in any order. It’s not as black and white, but I feel that it is more tier based
First time watching this podcast. Nothing but a bunch of horrible takes combined with absolutely no basketball knowledge. Dude said Kobe was a better defender than MJ, smh I cant. Other guy said Lebron is the greatest because of 40k points. MJ is the all time leader in points per game for both the regular and playoffs. Thats more impressive than Lebron's longevity stats.
@@threeinthepaint I'm a fan of good basketball and appreciate good basketball analysis. Unfortunately, I didn't hear anything other than casual takes from the 3 of you. Also, FYI most people are MJ fans because he's the concensus GOAT. Nothing you say or do will change that. "But but but 40k points though!!!!" "But but but what about the hamburger" Stop it.
These three really trying to convince themselves that a longevity stat makes Lebron the goat! Also leads in all-time turn-overs, all-time shots taken, and is about to lead in all-time most missed shots! Not to mention "Goats don't get outplayed by the likes of Jayson Terry, and JJ Barrea in the finals, and lose to a heavy underdog Mav's team!" Notice the subscriptions and the thumbs up for these three??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kobe had 3 disastrous Finals series in 2000,2004 & 2008 went 1-2 in those 3. Nobody talks bout that tho since we try and protect our guys huh.. Kobe in 2000/2004/2008 Finals: 21.3 PPG 4.0 RPG 4.5 APG 1.8 SPG 0.7 BPG on 38.4 FG% 23.2 3pt% 45.7 TS% LeBron in the 3 WORST Finals he played in 2007/2011/2015: 25.2 PPG 9.3 RPG 7.5 APG 1.3 SPG 0.5 BPG on 41.1 FG% 27.7 3pt% 48.2 TS%
@@jaybird8192love how you ignored what I actually said bro, here I’ll put to you this way, LeBron has double the Finals MVPs 4x the MVPs 7K more points and higher averages in his 3-worst Finals (25/9/7). Rings aren’t the only thing that makes a player great lol, that’s the worst argument tbh since Bill Russell has 11 Rings, the Finals MVP is NAMED after him. Robert Horry has 7 Rings and has made clutch shots in all 7 finals series but nobody says he’s greater than Kobe.. bc he’s not. Get off the rings argument and back it up with other counter arguments
@@PrinceSlade22 Bro, My point is a longevity stat doesn't make you the GOAT! Lebron is NOT the Goat because it took him all those years to score 40,000 pts. Do I have to tell you who the GOAT is???
Lefraud, lecheat. Lechoke, lefroze, lepad, lequit will never be consider the GOAT . Stat padding is good for the stats standpoint but he will never be better than MJ, get real! How much did u got😂😂😂 when compare their peak, MJ got a huge advantage, plus the rings, the artistry and so on and do forth, it's just nk comparison.
Jock sniffers can only talk atats but the fact of the matter is fundamentals....what is he better at offensively and defwnsivwly than michael and kobe. Thats should be the convo
Jordan had the greatest season and it’s not even close 88. In fact Jimmy highroller did a video to see who had the greatest individual season ever maybe y’all should go watch it and I have not heard any of y’all bring up LeBron‘s 6 finals losses and big meltdown in 11 I guess losses doesn’t matter anymore in sports or does that only apply to LeBron
You guys can’t be taken seriously because you’re already showing your biases When it comes to this debate And when has longevity ever determined who’s the greatest it has always been about winning and other achievements I didn’t hear any LeBron fan say Kareem was the goat when he was the all-time scoring leader so why all of a sudden now that LeBron is the all-time scoring leader he should be considered the goat and no one, with a losing finals record has ever been considered the goat do you see how LeBron fans have to try to change things around that has been consistently the criteria to try and make him the goat it’s just laughable to me 🤷🏽♂️🤣
I take it all into account. I have no issue with people saying MJ is the GOAT or that LeBron is the GOAT. I have an issue with people saying theres NO room for debate at all. - Jeremiah Preciate the comments and input give us a sub!
Plus LeBron also leads all time in Turnovers shots taken and missed shots and has played with way more all stars and super stars than Jordan y'all giving halfway truth on this channel 😂😂😂😂
I’ve got the 👑 1 and Jordan 2 because I am old enough to have watched Jordan play and I’m glad these young guys are starting to do the work and go back and watch the games back in the day and see with their own eyes the level of guard play back then and realize that most of those guys were offensively challenged most could only go one way to their right or dominant hand. When the guys who are my age who are the gate keepers in the media right now are gone it just might not be a debate especially if Lebron wins another title.
@@threeinthepaint King 👑 James Vs Air Jordan… y’all did you guys know that through 15 seasons LeBron’s teams have a higher win% rate in the playoffs + regular season combined, 35 playoff series wins to 30 playoff series wins. James clears him in every total stat but steals including postseason it’s like a 100+ difference. LeBron has more points than Magic AND Bird, more assists than Steve Nash AND more steals than Gary Payton.. Lastly; James is the ONLY player to play 50%+ of his minutes at PG SG SF PF C in a season. He’s got the MOST 4th qtr points, highest 4th qtr PPG (7.4) highest WPA in NBA history & the T-most total buzzer-beater GW (12) including playoffs.
What a trash take, Lebron ain't that guy
What would it take for him to be that guy for you? 6 rings?
Yup he's not only not that guy in basketball but the pos in sports history. #LeBronRetireNow
@@joshuavasquez1able lol you sound like a bitter woman lmao.
The Goat with a losing Finals record. Make it make sense. An entire Hall of fame career separates these two.
The G.O.A.T. playing against coke heads, expansion teams, Nike promotion, David Stern, slow ass white boys, Wilt averaged 50, Russell got 11 rings, Oscar Robertson averaged damn near a triple double for his career, Bron has 40,000 now how is Jordan the G.O.A.T. of anything plus Dennis Rodman said in 1996 " This league is filtered and watered down"
That's crazy lol
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great production, really surprised by your subscriber count (not a shot) just think your content is fairly high quality for where your at, probably a new channel but your off to a great start.
would also suggest to familiarize yourselves with the audience a little bit, as you guys start posting more at some point it would be kind of nice to get to know you guys other then just your names, yalls personalities are pretty dope would be nice hearing more abt u without getting too off track with the whole basketball subject
other then that keep it up will be subscribing
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Didn't Mike lock down VC and others at 38 and which Championship did Pippen get without Mike actually what Finals did he get to without Mike and 2nd round of the playoffs don't count😂😂😂😂😂
Well Mike did more with less in less time Jordan never seen a game 7 never been swept I'm the Finals 10x scoring champ 2 time steals leader was leading all SG in blocks before Wade 9 times all First team defense Defensive player of the year and and between 38-40 Mike had back to back 50 point games and had players younger in skates so the comparison is crazy
He did more with less? Lol He had Scottie
@@threeinthepaint And LeBron had many more superstars
The disconnect with fans, media and nba players with this "debate" is that everyone views it from different perspectives. Most people that have MJ and Kobe over Lebron is grading the olayer skillset, how much they won, their passion and competitive edge and people that have Lebron over Kobe or #2 to MJ is value stats and the paper resume. If you value winning and how close to flawless the player is individually its hard to value Lebron over MJ and Kobe.
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LeBron hasn't played defense since 2018
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It's no debate cause he just not good enough, he came out of high school started and played 20 years of course his point total gonna be high but you have to watch it to judge it and jordan is the guy if you didn't watch then how can you compare lebron had so many road bumps teaming up with other not just good but great players his 3 pt no defense era jordan just better, we all gotta stop winning at the highest levels matter
Agree that winning matters. Do we act like Bron hasn't won, though? He has 4. Made 8 straight finals. Has avg'd 28-8-8 basically his entire career. I think it is CRAZY to say there's no debate. No problem saying the GOAT is MJ, but no debate at all? Cmon now. - Jeremiah
Yall are choosing stats over rings ??
Stop it
No disrespect to Kobe. I think he’s unquestionably top 10, but I have him from like 5-7. Me personally I’m taking Tim Duncan over Kobe.
I think Kareem does get disrespected. I think he’s solidified as the 3rd best player of all time given. After Bron, MJ, and Kareem, you have:
Magic, Bird, Duncan, Kobe, and Shaq at 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 in any order
Russell, Steph, Hakeem, Wilt and KD at 9, 10, 11, and 12 in any order.
It’s not as black and white, but I feel that it is more tier based
This is a good take
First time watching this podcast. Nothing but a bunch of horrible takes combined with absolutely no basketball knowledge. Dude said Kobe was a better defender than MJ, smh I cant. Other guy said Lebron is the greatest because of 40k points. MJ is the all time leader in points per game for both the regular and playoffs. Thats more impressive than Lebron's longevity stats.
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Horrible because you're an MJ fan 😂 got it....
@@Kelvin-jr1mz MJ lovers are crazy 😂
@@threeinthepaint I'm a fan of good basketball and appreciate good basketball analysis. Unfortunately, I didn't hear anything other than casual takes from the 3 of you. Also, FYI most people are MJ fans because he's the concensus GOAT. Nothing you say or do will change that. "But but but 40k points though!!!!" "But but but what about the hamburger" Stop it.
@@nevincuff3621lmaooo there’s MJ fans who weren’t born when he Retired the THIRD time 😂 tf you on about “consensus” goh
Gtfoh goats to quit on their team with 4 mins to go
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I guess you think MJ the goat who took years off in his prime.
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Ive never heard so much 💩 in my life 😂
We appreciate the support either way LOL
Michael Jordan The Goat is the Greatest The Goat 🐐 Period!!!! Lebron Flopping James is not top 10
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These three really trying to convince themselves that a longevity stat makes Lebron the goat!
Also leads in all-time turn-overs, all-time shots taken, and is about to lead in all-time most missed shots! Not to mention "Goats don't get outplayed by the likes of Jayson Terry, and JJ Barrea in the finals, and lose to a heavy underdog Mav's team!" Notice the subscriptions and the thumbs up for these three??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For the record, Leo doesn't believe LBJ is the Goat.
Kobe had 3 disastrous Finals series in 2000,2004 & 2008 went 1-2 in those 3. Nobody talks bout that tho since we try and protect our guys huh..
Kobe in 2000/2004/2008 Finals: 21.3 PPG 4.0 RPG 4.5 APG 1.8 SPG 0.7 BPG on 38.4 FG% 23.2 3pt% 45.7 TS%
LeBron in the 3 WORST Finals he played in 2007/2011/2015: 25.2 PPG 9.3 RPG 7.5 APG 1.3 SPG 0.5 BPG on 41.1 FG% 27.7 3pt% 48.2 TS%
@@PrinceSlade22 And who has more chips??? Kobe or Bron?
Y'all always making it about stats when it's quote: "YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!"
@@jaybird8192love how you ignored what I actually said bro, here I’ll put to you this way, LeBron has double the Finals MVPs 4x the MVPs 7K more points and higher averages in his 3-worst Finals (25/9/7). Rings aren’t the only thing that makes a player great lol, that’s the worst argument tbh since Bill Russell has 11 Rings, the Finals MVP is NAMED after him. Robert Horry has 7 Rings and has made clutch shots in all 7 finals series but nobody says he’s greater than Kobe.. bc he’s not. Get off the rings argument and back it up with other counter arguments
@@PrinceSlade22 Bro, My point is a longevity stat doesn't make you the GOAT! Lebron is NOT the Goat because it took him all those years to score 40,000 pts. Do I have to tell you who the GOAT is???
Without question, the biggest problem with the goat debate is MJ fans need to accept that it's very close. That's what stands out the most.
It’s not close 😂
Lefraud, lecheat. Lechoke, lefroze, lepad, lequit will never be consider the GOAT . Stat padding is good for the stats standpoint but he will never be better than MJ, get real! How much did u got😂😂😂 when compare their peak, MJ got a huge advantage, plus the rings, the artistry and so on and do forth, it's just nk comparison.
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His actual GAME isn’t as polished as other greats. Too mych flaws. Gets away with too much vialations ect ect
Definitely valid. I've heard this from a lot of people. I think we turn a blind eye and romanticize MJ's game though.
People really have no faith in the Knicks
Facts!
Yeh it’s the Knicks
@@PrinceSlade22 you’re living in the past
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Jock sniffers can only talk atats but the fact of the matter is fundamentals....what is he better at offensively and defwnsivwly than michael and kobe. Thats should be the convo
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Jordan had the greatest season and it’s not even close 88. In fact Jimmy highroller did a video to see who had the greatest individual season ever maybe y’all should go watch it and I have not heard any of y’all bring up LeBron‘s 6 finals losses and big meltdown in 11 I guess losses doesn’t matter anymore in sports or does that only apply to LeBron
You guys can’t be taken seriously because you’re already showing your biases When it comes to this debate And when has longevity ever determined who’s the greatest it has always been about winning and other achievements I didn’t hear any LeBron fan say Kareem was the goat when he was the all-time scoring leader so why all of a sudden now that LeBron is the all-time scoring leader he should be considered the goat and no one, with a losing finals record has ever been considered the goat do you see how LeBron fans have to try to change things around that has been consistently the criteria to try and make him the goat it’s just laughable to me 🤷🏽♂️🤣
I take it all into account. I have no issue with people saying MJ is the GOAT or that LeBron is the GOAT. I have an issue with people saying theres NO room for debate at all. - Jeremiah
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Plus LeBron also leads all time in Turnovers shots taken and missed shots and has played with way more all stars and super stars than Jordan y'all giving halfway truth on this channel 😂😂😂😂
Always state facts
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True. I felt that they just do this for the sake of gaining viewers, no depth.
😂😂 what are you talking about
I’ve got the 👑 1 and Jordan 2 because I am old enough to have watched Jordan play and I’m glad these young guys are starting to do the work and go back and watch the games back in the day and see with their own eyes the level of guard play back then and realize that most of those guys were offensively challenged most could only go one way to their right or dominant hand. When the guys who are my age who are the gate keepers in the media right now are gone it just might not be a debate especially if Lebron wins another title.
Facts. There's a debate. That's the point Jeremiah and Mark are tryna make.
Also, could MJ even finish with the left???
@@threeinthepaint King 👑 James Vs Air Jordan… y’all did you guys know that through 15 seasons LeBron’s teams have a higher win% rate in the playoffs + regular season combined, 35 playoff series wins to 30 playoff series wins.
James clears him in every total stat but steals including postseason it’s like a 100+ difference. LeBron has more points than Magic AND Bird, more assists than Steve Nash AND more steals than Gary Payton..
Lastly; James is the ONLY player to play 50%+ of his minutes at PG SG SF PF C in a season. He’s got the MOST 4th qtr points, highest 4th qtr PPG (7.4) highest WPA in NBA history & the T-most total buzzer-beater GW (12) including playoffs.
@@threeinthepaintalso I’d LOVE to come on the pod one day that would be elite
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