These 5 Common Mistakes DISQUALIFY Preachers from Ministry

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  • We MUST watch out for these sorts of preachers… In this video, Allen Parr discusses 5 common mistakes that DISQUALIFY preachers from serving in the Church, ranging from physical violence to sexual immorality.
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    TIME STAMPS
    00:00 - Do The Scriptures Teach It's Possible To Be Disqualified From Ministry?
    02:59 - What Does It Mean To Be "Above Reproach?"
    04:53 - What Does A "Husband of One Wife" Mean?
    06:44 - Does Spiritual Abuse Disqualify A Pastor From Ministry?
    07:28 - Rod Parsley Spiritually Abusing Staff
    09:38 - What Does "Manage Your Household" Mean?
    10:05 - Should A Pastor Who Has Been Abusive Be Disqualified From Ministry?
    10:44 - Can A Pastor Drink Alcohol And Be Fit For Ministry?
    11:02 - Should A Pastor Be Disqualified For False Doctrine?
    11:39 - Disqualification Question #1
    13:49 - Disqualification Question #2
    15:32 - Disqualification Question #3
    17:15 - Disqualification Question #4
    18:49 - Disqualification Question #5
    20:18 - Final Remarks

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  • @Just_a_Reflection
    @Just_a_Reflection 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment.
    James 3:1

  • @lelanicampher4813
    @lelanicampher4813 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    In regard to having his own house in order. You do see pastors whose own families are not cared for and lacking in good relationships with their spouses and children who think that they can pastor a church. If you can't be faithful with a little, you can't be faithful with much.

  • @Rev_rider775
    @Rev_rider775 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    One issue I have seen is a pastor is removed. They don't seek repentance. They move on and start a new fellowship.

  • @juliem.3936
    @juliem.3936 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Pastors disqualifying themselves from ministry will continue to happen because it has been written that in the last days there will be a falling away. Sad, but true. Some of these are not as subjective as they seem. I think Paul was pretty clear about what type of a man's character qualifies him for ministry.

    • @WMPBLSD
      @WMPBLSD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It is important to remember that although a person can be disqualified from ministry, they will never be disqualified from the cross.

    • @juliem.3936
      @juliem.3936 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@WMPBLSD If they repent.

    • @PatrickInCayman
      @PatrickInCayman วันที่ผ่านมา

      Correct, Paul did, and we call these men Bishops and Presbyters ordained through successive Apostolic consecration.

  • @dpsm373
    @dpsm373 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I understand no one's perfect and even the most faithful can stumble but once a pastor does something out of line, don't care if it's just once, my trust and respect ain't gonna be the same anymore. 😕

    • @user-rs6bz9so3g
      @user-rs6bz9so3g วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Physical or mental abuse or fooling around on your wife or getting drunk constantly is hardly a stumble those are all conscious decisions

  • @Smart_nap
    @Smart_nap 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I’ve really really struggled with a pastor that I really trusted and thought I got to know quite personally, him and his wife and kids, and even helped them when they moved to my country as missionaries… only to find a year after that he was caught in adultery and had absolutely no repentance. In fact, he then left his wife and kids and went to be with this other woman. And then started to post pics of him celebrating occasions such as Halloween with his new family etc…. It was a 180 it seemed and just so hard to watch and see and so terribly confusing. He was removed from ministry as soon as the adultery was found out …. But it’s just so heavy on my heart. I can’t even try to understand what on earth happened…..!

    • @py20
      @py20 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He is unrepentant and deserves to remain out of ministry. But don't stop praying for him. Also, don't let his sinful behavior discourage you. Christ alone is our example; look to Him only, not any man, and follow in His lead, one day at a time. Blessings to you.

  • @sallyjane8274
    @sallyjane8274 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    I could NEVER trust a pastor that had an affair. Period.

    • @nickjones1314
      @nickjones1314 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I could never trust any man to speak and or write on behalf of a god.

    • @whoaitsally7676
      @whoaitsally7676 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @sallyjane8274 me either. That shows such a lack of control and morals and boundaries.... like the pastor in SC who's wife just passed... he had had several affairs and divorces. Never should've been pastor.

    • @henning439
      @henning439 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      If David was of this time, I would not stand a chance with you.

    • @davidpmilligan1965
      @davidpmilligan1965 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@henning439David was a king , not an elder/pastor. Apples and oranges

    • @henning439
      @henning439 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@davidpmilligan1965 So adultery has another meaning because David was a king? He slept with someone's wife and plotted his murder, yet God forgave him. Be very careful in your radical approach. You saying that you would never trust a pastor that had an affair is completely unbiblical because you suggest that they cannot change and do not deserve a second chance.

  • @sajj2473
    @sajj2473 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Reading alot of the comments here and just in my own life experience, I think the mistake we keep making is that we put our faith in man, who will always let us down. We need to put our faith in the ONE who has overcome the world, we need to put our Faith in Jesus. Love you all.

    • @vickieadams6648
      @vickieadams6648 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      True, tell that to the people expecting an elderly unsaved millionaire to rescue them instead of Jesus.

  • @bhcm1962
    @bhcm1962 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I totally agree!! I left my church because I couldn’t look at nor listen to the word coming from my previous Pastor.

  • @RuslanKD
    @RuslanKD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Great analysis.

  • @michealcheng6021
    @michealcheng6021 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If the situation is still QUESTIONABLE after many years of pastoral restoration……it’s best for the minister to step down.

  • @kateonly29
    @kateonly29 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Family is your first ministry. If you cannot raise God fearing and God loving children who had been with you since they were babies, how can you lead any other ministry?

    • @MarkMay-cr6bv
      @MarkMay-cr6bv 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Spot-on comment. Thank you.

    • @ntabile
      @ntabile 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It is tricky. Because there is one Pastor in the US where the son rebels and becomes apostate. I saw the son's video, and he is totally the opposite of the father.

    • @Tye-pf8vi
      @Tye-pf8vi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Deuteronomy 24: 16 says, "Parents shalt not be put to death for their children, nor children be put to death for their parents; each will die for thier own sins. Everyone is accountable for their actions."

    • @lawrenceehrbar8667
      @lawrenceehrbar8667 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pastors with unruly, rebellious, worldly, and spoiled children seem to be commonplace. Especially with those pastors who are very charismatic and treated like roylalty. In fact, it seems that these pastors create such an aura about themselves that congregants start idolizing them and begin wanting to "hover" around the pastor. This causes the pastor to create a protective inner circle of confidants to guard himself from his "subjects." It becomes self perpetuating. We see the same thing in the world. You've heard the stories. About celebrity such-and-such who place an "edict" that subordinates aren't to ever look the celebrity in the eye. This is almost commonplace in some churches.

    • @MoonlitShoreWalk
      @MoonlitShoreWalk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I think it's referring to when children are still in their parents' household. While they're being raised, the pastor/wife should be raising them well, in love, in the knowledge of God and His Word, and with patient discipline. If they've done that well, to the best of their ability, then what their kids do as adults should not disqualify the pastor. After all, you can do everything right raising a child and s/he can become apostate, while other families do everything wrong (kids raised in abusive homes, no God, no church, taught to do drugs at an early age, etc.), and those kids can turn out to be Christians, even pastors. Each adult is accountable for their own actions.

  • @joshuawhite8114
    @joshuawhite8114 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Great video.! I was always curious if I was disqualified as a minister due to my past. This was so encouraging..thanks Allen!

  • @geekgazette
    @geekgazette 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I am listening to you and how you are dividing the Word of Jesus Christ as mentioned in the Book of James and your lessons from Study The Bible series for doing exactly what you are doing now sir. Righteously defining the meaning of key words from Greek is a life lesson. I am trying to do this on my young TH-cam channel but no where is well as you, sir. I thank you for all that you are doing for the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. Be blessed and I will pay $20.00 dollars using the dollar symbol because I know that you have a family and staff to support, pastor Parr. Be blessed always by Him Who can do immeasurably more than anyone else can do…to Him be the praise and glory always in Jesus Christ. Amen.

    • @Beanmachine91
      @Beanmachine91 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Know thyself and such

  • @jkdm27
    @jkdm27 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Luckily I did not choose to go into ministry. I'm definitely not qualified. I'm just grateful for God's forgiveness, but all I can do is to serve in a lesser capacity.

  • @robbiesedgeman8698
    @robbiesedgeman8698 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    This was helpful in thinking through these types of situations… Thank you!

  • @joycecarter2868
    @joycecarter2868 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thanks for bringing some clarity to a very delicate and serious situations.

  • @ericsjaunirsjoekoer8535
    @ericsjaunirsjoekoer8535 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Have been through a few pastors like this. Said goodbye to their church. "Feed the sheep not beat them"!

  • @MSLILLY4533
    @MSLILLY4533 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    You know Allen if its a bad character issue I think ministry is not the place for that individual. We all sin it doesn't make it right but as long as we're attached to this flesh we have problems. For me I choose to show mercy and pray for the person because eventually I'll need mercy also.

    • @david4unthank
      @david4unthank 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      You are correct in what you say, however, the office of Pastor is not the same as everyday Christian. It has higher standards and when those standards are not met, then disqualification applies and the Pastor is no longer qualified for that office.

    • @Jaydubbayoutwo
      @Jaydubbayoutwo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@david4unthankis the standard perfection for leadership? Or what standards are there to determine when a leader crossed the line? Is there a sin limit? Is there a category of sin that leaders commit that automatically disqualifies them?

    • @shanteladams7613
      @shanteladams7613 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Jaydubbayoutwothere is also the fact that sexual abuse is a crime. This man is roaming free and not paid for his actions. After that, maybe the next steps could be taken, but no one should get away with this

    • @dahliaherrod4301
      @dahliaherrod4301 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@JaydubbayoutwoI think it depends on your duties and the type of sin. For example, if it's confirmed an elder stole money from the church and defrauded them then remove them from access to the money and place them elsewhere. You don't have to kick them out or keep them from ministry forever. It may be a particular duty is just not appropriate for them. This protects the church and the elder too who may be struggling with a chronic sin issue

  • @kevinandbeckyguinn4209
    @kevinandbeckyguinn4209 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Managing household well--includes managing finances and things related to the home

  • @ImationX3
    @ImationX3 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Todd Friel talked about this and I am inclined to agree with his assessment. If you are sinning as a pastor--while there is grace and forgiveness in Christianity--you should not be back behind the pulpit. There are many examples he brings out from Church History that agree that the one who errs should be removed from the pulpit. They need to get themselves into a good Bible preaching church under a Godly pastor and learn in submission.

  • @Just_a_Reflection
    @Just_a_Reflection 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, Allen. As a long-time subscriber who has been hacked and canceled in a similar fashion that you have, I have your back 100 percent.

  • @praiselujahradio-show
    @praiselujahradio-show 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great job, Allen! This is so necessary. Thanks for covering this!

  • @karlinwilliamson9329
    @karlinwilliamson9329 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You broke it down as good as I've heard. This is not an easy topic. Thank you for your clarity

  • @user-zj4ct2mi4j
    @user-zj4ct2mi4j วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really got a lot from this. The information distinguishing a 1 time incident verses an ongoing issue was insightful. Thanks!

  • @cahillrebel
    @cahillrebel 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is gonna be a long question for Pastor Parr but I would like for his advice.
    What about an individual who was deep in a sin, never confessed it to a person, but confessed to God, asked for forgiveness and surrendered to Christ? Then they were delivered from it?
    Could someone who never was in ministry but had a sin they were delivered from in the past be in ministry?
    This was me. Early age I fell to the video sin (you know what I mean). It was horrid. I wasn’t in church anymore during this time. But after high school and then college, I had this urge to be in church more. Almost got stuck in a oneness church but I was led to another college in another town that was more biblically sound. I met my future wife the same day at the new college when the semester began. And a second time at the college church fellowship sponsored by the local church. Same week. God led me back to church and yet still had the sin (but this was a step in His purpose for me). I’d be mad at myself and beating myself up. But I prayed more and more because I wanted to be with Him. I was saved as a little kid but fell into all that mess. I felt as though I was condemned because I was not listening to the right voice. I asked God to forgive me and I fought so long. At some point I surrendered everything to Jesus and I never do those specified things again. Now, I am resisting the temptation to look at parts of a woman’s body, and I feel I still beat myself down when I do so by accident and unintentionally, but Jesus has helped me through this mess and I do my best to follow Him (letting Him work in my life).
    The Holy Spirit has helped sanctified me so much with more self-control and also reassuring me that God loves me and has a purpose for me. I feel detached from the world and I don’t like it. I long to see God and not do the sin others do. I want to do His will. I’ll never be perfect but I want to follow my Savior, my Shepherd. Temptation stings but Jesus Christ is worth my praise. To Him be all the glory amen.
    This is my confession to you all. And the reason I say this is because God has put into my head the idea of ministry and I have a tugging in my soul to do so. But I’ve been fighting back because of my past and my perceived ability to do something like it. I don’t think I’m worthy enough to do ministry and yet the tugging remains. There was something someone said regarding our abilities at the time and God’s purpose for us. “God doesn’t choose the prepared. God prepares the chosen.”
    This very quote has repeatedly worn away my fears over time. But I need advice to pursue what I feel God is leading me to.
    This same thing happened a year ago when out of the blue the idea of teaching was put in my head. Told my wife countless times I couldn’t fathom the idea of teaching (she’s a teacher). But that idea entered my head, I prayed about it with my wife who said it’d be a miracle if I got hired in a month since schools were about to open again. I got all my provisional licensure and prereqs done, and hired, in four weeks. Including masters program so I can teach and do classes for it. It was a miracle that I can only give God the complete credit. I know this feels similar to what I’m now experiencing but this is a bigger leap.

  • @cassandrarae3464
    @cassandrarae3464 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this! This was an answered prayer from God for me since my husband and I was having this discussion and we have different opinions but this definitely helped me to see how there is subjectivity to the list that is given in 1 Timothy.

  • @warholcow
    @warholcow 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I agree and I’m glad that you’re going over these and clearing up things because this is obviously something that’s really relevant. I will say, however, that in our day and age with social media and access to information, that we should not be too quick to draw conclusions because people can make accusations that are false. It doesn’t mean that people need to have this specific proof in order to prove that something did happen, but to think that people don’t bare false witness is also not entirely correct. So we should be cautious, make sure that we’re ensuring the safety of (alleged and confirmed) victims, but also make sure that we gather information before fully coming to a conclusion if the situation may call for it. This isn’t the case for everything, but those cautionary tales where people’s lives can be ruined because of things that end up not being true, are important because those are still peoples lives. However, often times there’s lots of evidence and if it’s a pattern, then that’s way different.

  • @bilandshark
    @bilandshark 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    @allenparr what I’m yet to understand is Robert Morris was one of Pastor Mark Driscoll personal accountability Pastors. Yet, He’s been totally silent on this RM child abuse issue. And since he is very vocal about other men. I find it curious he’s now silent.

    • @johndibert5509
      @johndibert5509 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Get over it, I think enough people have piled on RM

    • @bilandshark
      @bilandshark 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johndibert5509 pathetic reply. Seriously. Wasn’t talking to you anyway. People like you enable abusers.

    • @bilandshark
      @bilandshark 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johndibert5509 Get over a pedophile Mega Church Pastor? I’ll pray for your salvation.

  • @jayjones4191
    @jayjones4191 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you Mr. Parr

  • @Why_U_Geh
    @Why_U_Geh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    the best kind of ministry is being a youtuber...no accountability..no elders no financial burdens..no committees 😂😂😂

    • @tic8259
      @tic8259 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You hit the nail on the head with this comment. You can have people send you money and have your own captive audience and following, free of accountability....if that's what you want 🤦🏾‍♀️. This day and age we live in, I wonder should the Timothy 3 guidelines apply to TH-camrs too.

  • @alfredoalva9240
    @alfredoalva9240 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for the information. It would be a nice follow up on how members of the church should deal with pastors who should be disqualified and yet refuse to step down from ministry. Blessed with your videos and content.

  • @Slipy300000
    @Slipy300000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The husband of one wife could mean only married once and faithful. Also not divorced.

    • @EDFCentral
      @EDFCentral 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is what I was taught it meant in every single church I've ever been in. It literally says husband of ONE wife. I personally think it means not married to multiple women like they used to do back in the time it was written. I don't think it means divorce and the reason I say this is because I know a wonderful pastor whose wife left him for another man. He tried to resign because he had always been taught that "husband of one wife" meant he couldn't be divorced. The church refused to let him resign and he has gone on to be an effective pastor and church planter to this day. God still uses him in a pastoral role and he is now married to a wonderful Godly woman.

    • @eli-bt4he
      @eli-bt4he วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A man who remarries after a divorce, except in the case of adultery by the wife, is committing adultery, and is disqualified permanently from being a pastor. However, I would only apply this to men who got remarried while already a Christian.

  • @reed3625
    @reed3625 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great and timely word of insight, big bro. Thanks for all that you do to inform and build up the body.

  • @memunatusaffa9216
    @memunatusaffa9216 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good questions to get answered Pastor Allen. Thx 🙏 and God bless you

  • @lindasmith6668
    @lindasmith6668 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You shared appropriately. Thank you

  • @geraldwilliamsjr1825
    @geraldwilliamsjr1825 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, brother Allen!! God bless you and your ministry!

  • @ChristianCareerJoy
    @ChristianCareerJoy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this video Allen! In a time where people are speaking in opinions, you are equipping the saints! Very helpful video, especially as the LORD seems to be separating the wheat from the chaff right before our eyes!

  • @kristellw5929
    @kristellw5929 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im so impressed with the redemption work the lord has done in Carl lentz life and his family. The pod cast he started is very supporte and healing and amazing testimony of the lord. He takes FULL responsibility

  • @isaac-walterhurd71
    @isaac-walterhurd71 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great Teaching Man Of God!!! 🕊️✌️✌️🕊️

  • @dahliaherrod4301
    @dahliaherrod4301 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think a lot of these qualifications are subjective because it's really up to each church community. I think if a group has set the rules for engagement then the leader violated them, the church is well within their rights to remove him from leadership. He's subject to whatever consequences they've already set up.
    I think a major issue is that most churches never set consequences in place for violations. God sets rules with consequences. So do parents and businesses. Churches should do the same. This way people know what they're signing up for when joining a church community and it's easier to hold each other accountable.

  • @krystalmakiha6786
    @krystalmakiha6786 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    9:22 Did he just say that if this has been a pattern, the leader needs to step away so that they can experience some sort of "humiliation" plan?

  • @johniejoyce8876
    @johniejoyce8876 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The recordings starting at 7:30 remind me of what it was like to serve in ministry during my time at Liberty University. Especially after being ordained at a church several miles north of campus, I was treated like this, and then blamed for everything. Calling them on it got me in big trouble, leading to a contract not getting renewed. Amen, Allen! Ministers need to quit acting like that!

  • @michaelroots6931
    @michaelroots6931 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good balanced teaching. Thanks Allen.

  • @DebbieKaradeema
    @DebbieKaradeema วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are absolutely right on all points.

  • @geekgazette
    @geekgazette 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Thanks, Pastor Parr for all that you do, sir. Blessings to you and your family always in Christ Jesus. Amen.

    • @lectron307
      @lectron307 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where can you make donations to Brother Parr ?

    • @geekgazette
      @geekgazette 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lectron307 The dollar symbol and 'Thanks' is beside it to the far right of the thumbs up icon. Be blessed.

    • @LoveWisdomCourage
      @LoveWisdomCourage 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Amen! Thanks for your generosity!

  • @willwatson8394
    @willwatson8394 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very good lesson. Greatly appreciated

  • @anabelasoares2835
    @anabelasoares2835 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks 👍 you were very informative.

  • @CinemaSermons
    @CinemaSermons 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, Allen! This is actually part of the reason why I stopped doing the "sermon" part of Cinema Sermons. I've shared with you some of my struggles in our personal conversations and there's some other things I'm actively working to overcome, but I just wanted to make sure that I don't give the gospel black eye in any way. I want to make sure that the same guy doing videos at the same guy that they'll see out doing karaoke on a saturday. So I'm just enjoying making videos about movies and trying to be the best coach I can, and when I feel the time is right and that the Lord approves of it I'll start doing the sermon part again. Well done as always, my friend!

    • @thebeatagp
      @thebeatagp  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Good to see you on here! Thanks for the clarification. God bless you!

    • @CinemaSermons
      @CinemaSermons 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thebeatagp God bless you as well!

  • @user-ts8sn5ts2z
    @user-ts8sn5ts2z วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Involvement with an underage child, sexually should be a disqualifer even when there is true repentance.

  • @cjunker66
    @cjunker66 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m glad this is stuff with Rod Parsley is finally coming out

  • @kiggundufrancis5225
    @kiggundufrancis5225 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Mr Allen

  • @gailnowaski7336
    @gailnowaski7336 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very fair and clear , thank you👏🙏

  • @DH-wm8pd
    @DH-wm8pd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Keep these videos coming brother you are truly a blessing shout out from Toledo Ohio✊🏿✊🏿🙏🏿

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just heads up; think your phone rearranged your words. My phone does that all the time ☹️ Just letting you know ✌️

    • @travarusmart24
      @travarusmart24 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ayeee Ohio in the house

    • @DH-wm8pd
      @DH-wm8pd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gohawks3571 thanks 🙏🏿✊🏿

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DH-wm8pd YW👍👍👍 I knew what you meant 😉

  • @TheBlessingReport
    @TheBlessingReport 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Talk that talk

  • @emmanueldedmon6690
    @emmanueldedmon6690 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video

  • @alvincobbs92
    @alvincobbs92 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I always thank God for your TH-cam channel. I wanted to take my Bible study to a new level. I prayed about it and I came across your TH-cam channel, please keep up the good work

  • @joshuamartinpryce8424
    @joshuamartinpryce8424 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks

  • @ColourfulXO
    @ColourfulXO 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There is an example of, Charles Stanley... He was unfaithful and him and his wife decided to divorce. He stepped down from preaching. But, soon after the church "overwhelmingly voted" for him to continue being the Pastor. And he vowed to remain celibate and focus on feeding the flock! I think in that situation it ended up being the right choice.

  • @blayladavis8592
    @blayladavis8592 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I definitely agree that when someone stays in the pulpit while living a double/sinful lifestyle that is a big deal and they like should not be restored

  • @SistaSueK
    @SistaSueK 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So half-truths would be considered a lie and not repentance?

  • @dukedp78
    @dukedp78 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think my only question is what is of the congregation is regards to forgiveness? Yes trust is broken, that is understood. But does that have us to continue to hold a person’s past against them moving forward?
    No, they may not be restored to their position or title, but sometimes I feel like the Church even suppress the gifting too

  • @BWell247
    @BWell247 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

    Thought provoking information as always. I believe child abuse would be a non-negotiable disqualification.

    • @ftmb1022
      @ftmb1022 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Exactly.

    • @thebeatagp
      @thebeatagp  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I would 100% agree!

    • @jesusprofessor314
      @jesusprofessor314 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does that include biblical spanking? The liberals have broadened the definition of abuse to include that in many places.

    • @laurykristensen6239
      @laurykristensen6239 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes, thats why he and others had to misrepresent the truth. His earning potential was irresistible to all of them.

    • @cailewilkinson8362
      @cailewilkinson8362 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thebeatagphey brother a friend of mine a brother in Christ committed child sa before he got saved, now he is a legitimate repentant follower of Christ and is in ministry. What are your thoughts on that? Should the people he ministers to be concerned?

  • @jacobgrantphotography
    @jacobgrantphotography วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well said, Allen.

  • @richardaguirre3719
    @richardaguirre3719 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can a pastor who committed sexual assault of a minor be restored to the ministry?

    • @oldschool5
      @oldschool5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure. Im sure some of your favorite pastors have done much worse that you are unaware of. There are whole nations of people who are now Christians because of slave masters. If we can accept Christianity from a slave master than im sure we can get the word from a pedophile.

  • @WillJennings-xr9cb
    @WillJennings-xr9cb 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm not a pastor but I believe these guideposts should be strickly listed and remembered for all who will themselves to be followers of Jesus Christ.
    What is required for ministry of pastors should seriously be adopted as requirements to lead a Christian life pleasing to our Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @LadyJpraise2024unbound
    @LadyJpraise2024unbound 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I know a pastor no one knew was abusive but he truly was saved. The couple ended up starting a marriage ministry and ministering to others. His reputation is solid and he gives his testimony to others.. I say if they get caught in a sin yet don't repent and get help then there is a problem. If it is a pattern that he can't break then stepping down may b best option. This Christian walk is hard and support to truly walk free and in His work limited to none

  • @CynHicks
    @CynHicks 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Above reproach is actuality failry specific and objective. Essentially, if there's anyone in the community (Christian or otherwise)that has a legitimate social debt to correct from them then they aren't above reproach. Have they wronged someone and not made ammends? They aren't above reproach.

  • @Jaydubbayoutwo
    @Jaydubbayoutwo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very good point, especially when it comes to subjective opinions.

  • @heatherburke-townsend4638
    @heatherburke-townsend4638 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great teaching Allen!! Thank you! God bless you & your Family… my schoolmate!!
    Go Steelers🖤💛 😊

  • @sabrinajohnson9579
    @sabrinajohnson9579 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Allen I was waiting 4 u to speak on this about pastors

  • @IndianaJoe0321
    @IndianaJoe0321 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    At 4:25, pastor says, "Nothing that you did before you came to Christ disqualifies you from ministry."
    What about sexually abusing kids?

    • @thebeatagp
      @thebeatagp  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Great question. I guess as I mentioned, we'd have to consider whether God disqualified the Apostle Paul for killing Christians. It's a tough situation. For me personally, I would not feel comfortable knowing my pastor had that type of past even if it was in his past but that's just me personally.

    • @dank2476
      @dank2476 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thebeatagp Would God have chosen Paul if he was sexually abusing children when as Saul?

    • @eli-bt4he
      @eli-bt4he วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would argue that true repentance would include turning yourself into law enforcement. Which, in most cases, would likely give you a legal status that makes you legally unable to serve as a pastor.

    • @IndianaJoe0321
      @IndianaJoe0321 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cops cannot be pastors,@@eli-bt4he ?

  • @EM4Christ7
    @EM4Christ7 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are your thoughts on Proverbs 6:27-33? (33) being the focus because you said there is no indication of permanent disqualification, just asking for your thoughts.

  • @jesusprofessor314
    @jesusprofessor314 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The verbs in 1 Timothy 3 are all in the present tense. Some obviously reflect on past behavior, but it is a stretch to use present tense verbs to claim permanent disability. Trust of the sheep is important for shepherding, but the levels and kind of trust needed depends on the local situation. My view tends to be that local elders direct the affirs of their church. So if one set of elders applies 1 Tim 3 differently from another, that's OK. It is wrong however, to insist that the elders of other churches apply 1 Timothy 3 the same way you would. Your elders direct the affairs of your church. Their elders direct the affairs of their church. Kinda like it's wrong for parents to criticize parents of other children for debatable child raising practices.

  • @fbwag1
    @fbwag1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What happens with Repeat offenders such as, Jamal Bryant who is not held accountable by the church board or church members.

  • @kimberlygover7703
    @kimberlygover7703 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These were good guidelines to build on Church leaders should call on him to set rules within the church or leadership conferences over a group of churches

  • @BoldFollower
    @BoldFollower 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    What if someone fell and was restored 20 years ago, but then the history came back up and the church calls for the guy to get removed... even though they already were restored 2 decades ago? They didn't slip or fall since, BUT because someone brought it back up, now people are upset and want to leave. Should the Elders support the pastor or support the congregation in this situation?

    • @ScarlettAdiel
      @ScarlettAdiel 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      👀

    • @eurekahope5310
      @eurekahope5310 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      I don't believe pastors should be restored. Once a pastor has had an affair he is no longer "above reproach." It is a high calling and God warned that pastors ought to be few.

    • @SistaSueK
      @SistaSueK 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      The Elders need to support the victim.

    • @Angelface11
      @Angelface11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Sexually abusing a child means somebody should be in prison

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I agree with the responses. Even if it wasn't child abuse; say, an adulterer - they should not be a pastor. Or anyone in authority. Should be in church, yes, absolutely! Unless they're unrepentant and sinning. Their testimony would be so helpful. But! They should not have authority.
      As a victim of SA, I would not want to go to a church with my rapists or molesters in there, esp in a place of power! I believe people can change, but they have that character flaw that they are fighting against. They shouldn't be in a place of temptation, which any place of power would be that.

  • @all4christ1
    @all4christ1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video, but is 1 Cor 9 talking about disqualification of pastors? Didn’t Paul encourage the church to run in such a way to obtain the prize? What is the prize for a Christian? He then used himself as an example in light off “run in such a way to obtain”. In ch10 didn’t he use the Israelites as an example of not walking in obedience and perishing?
    I don’t think there are examples of ministers who were disqualified in the bible. They were either false teachers whom the church were encouraged to stay away from.
    Paul said to remove one person for sexual sins and to hand them over to Satan but after a while he told them to bring him back.
    If you were to stand before God would you confidently say you have not committed any sin that would “disqualify” you from ministry?
    Should John Macurthur be disqualified for the case the woman whose husband abused his children made against the church.
    I struggle with this because there’s no clear instruction on disqualification, restoration though I agree it’s good in principle.

  • @mrsheatherteske
    @mrsheatherteske วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel a restoration would be okay with me, crime woukd be a different issue though.... however, its really up to the elders and ifnthe elders allow them back yhem congregation just have to make a choice to stay or go.

  • @Encourager-Purpose-Destiny
    @Encourager-Purpose-Destiny วันที่ผ่านมา

    Galatians 6:1: Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

  • @janpendergast5236
    @janpendergast5236 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Pastor Parr,!! You are a Godly you man, that seems to know the scriptures, as well as having common sense. I’m I. Agreement with you. My thought is o. Some of these issues are - if you are in moral sin before you ever get to the pulpit and still in sin as you are preaching, I ask the question - “ Did God call then into ministry while they were operating in sin. I say NO, that is not the characteristics or ways of our Holy God. If they have repented before being called, then I would say that could definitely be God calling them, since we all sin. However, God lets us know the Dangerous sins, which are rarely being preached!! God gave .Adam & Eve one warning promise, they broke the covenant (His warning promise) God kept HIS WARNING PROMISE, Rev. 22:18-19 - “ “if you add anything to this book, or take away anything from this book, I will take away your name from the BOOK OF LIFE!!!” We all need to hear the full truth from our leaders!!! At 85, I can tell you life is very short and very serious. We need to hear the full council of God, then it is our CHOICE, and when we blow it, leaders need emphasis TRUTH, SIN, & REPENTANCE!!!❤️❤️ ❤️❤️❤️😊

  • @fernandoformeloza4107
    @fernandoformeloza4107 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fallen leader shouldn't go to treatment for their sin for the purpose of going back to ministry; the purpose of treatment is to treat the sin. If that is the objective for treatment, they are side stepping their sin

  • @davidheroplays7296
    @davidheroplays7296 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What is your opinion on healing?

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'm not Allen, but I do believe in healing. But that doesn't mean it's right for everyone. Paul had that thorn in his side to keep him humble (Idk if it was physical or social or something, just an example of not perfect things in life). Some of the people Jesus healed suffered for years! The blind man was born that way to glorify God. He wasn't a baby, he was a man! God puts us in whatever place we need to be to improve spiritual life. Everything is meant to get you to an endpoint. Like Paul being in jail. Most of the New Testament was written there. If he wasn't in jail, he would have simply spoken the messages.
      Hope that helps. God has guided me by using my health too. It sure hasn't been fun, but He is guiding my life a certain direction.

    • @maricruzlopezrdh
      @maricruzlopezrdh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @gohawks3571 Amen 🙏🏽

  • @LifeOnHoth
    @LifeOnHoth 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm agreeing with your logic on this. It challenges me a bit tho. I'm in a setting where the division between teacher and the people being taught isn't that clear. Like a small house church. I really don't care to dig in anyone's past. I dig in my own tho. So even tho I'm not a pastor, I'm not a teacher, I really sometimes wonder if I'm unfit to do what I do - I study a lot, right now I have a little pause, but usually I study a lot, and people in my circle, I know they appreciate my opinion on matters when it comes to learning how to read the bible in context and offer insight on matters.
    Sometimes I feel like a teacher, but I'm not. And sometimes I feel like I'm unfit, or doing something I shouldn't, because of sins I did before I became a christian. And that's like 30 years ago. I take it seriously, but I think I take it too seriously too. I just don't wanna do anything that's not right towards my friends, and I don't wanna condemn myself also by teaching when I shouldn't. Meh, this is complicated and what I write is just my random thoughts coming up as I watch the video.

    • @user-iz8np3vv4i
      @user-iz8np3vv4i 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service, even though I was previously a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief; and the grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the faith and love which are found in Christ Jesus. It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost. Yet for this reason I found mercy, so that in me as the foremost sinner Jesus Christ might demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those who would believe in Him for eternal life.
      -excerpt 1 Timothy 1
      -words of Paul

  • @samonethompson5373
    @samonethompson5373 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great insight as usual. Why is there a video of Pastor Earl McClellan included in this video?

  • @ambernectar3158
    @ambernectar3158 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Able to teach means that you can break it down for the congregation.
    It is clear what characteristic is needed. Be tougher in your preaching please, Truth is truth.
    In these last days speak with a double edge sword amen

  • @byronwastaken
    @byronwastaken 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The video editor🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @johnbaird8805
    @johnbaird8805 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are many pastors who have had more than one with and nobody bats an eye. The fact that this was admitted from this video kind of proves that point. It’s treated like God was saying no polygamy, meanwhile ignoring the fact that divorce and remarriage is adultery.

  • @ambernectar3158
    @ambernectar3158 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its not repeated pattern. It is OH NO I GOT CAUGHT.

  • @nowfaithis9799
    @nowfaithis9799 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I keep hearing people say step down for a "season". What are we calling a season, or is that dependent upon the infraction?

  • @keaobakamaine469
    @keaobakamaine469 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My question is: Whst should a Pastor do when they are falsely accused of all the wrong doings? Which can ruin their reputation instead of disqualification?

    • @eurekahope5310
      @eurekahope5310 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think we use the example God sets in Scriptures for two or three lines of witness. For example, if a pastor is accused by a woman of an affair and the elders search his phone, his finances, his schedule, looks for witnesses, and find absolutely no corroborating evidence, they should not permanently remove him. If there is an accusation and his phone history, another witness, finances, or some other religion able evidence affirm the accusation, he needs to be removed.

  • @michellecisneros3191
    @michellecisneros3191 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2 men come to mind when discussing a domineering attitude, Greg Locke and Mark Driscoll. Both of them are disqualified with their actions in just the last year while in the pulpit. This is why, IMO, we are seeing a decline in church attendance. There are so many hypocrites preaching.

  • @lauravarela8803
    @lauravarela8803 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I believe that a pastor that has issues with church money should step down ministry indefinitely. Maybe assume a role that doesn’t involve management of church resources?

  • @teresaedmondson4749
    @teresaedmondson4749 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello Allen, I love your videos. I have a longtime friend who has been deceived by the TV show Shepherd’s Chapel. She kept watching it, after I told her that Arnold Murray is a false teacher and that the teaching in this show is blasphemous. Can you make a video about Shepherd’s Chapel, there is a lot of online information as to why the content of this show is devoid of Biblical truth? After four years of telling her to stay away from this TV show and praying for her, I finally told her that she needs to repent of the sin of worshipping a counterfeit gospel. She has studied this false teaching for over 10 years. Now this counterfeit gospel has become apart of who she is in Christ, it comes out of her mouth when she talks about the Bible. I contacted a pastor about Shepherd’s Chapel, he told me that this has been a major problem for many pastors to counter and correct in their congregations. I appreciate everything that you do for our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you and God bless you. Sincerely, Teresa

  • @bw8905
    @bw8905 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about those unknowingly or knowingly involved in the occult or New Aged practices?

  • @brittanykrieger5828
    @brittanykrieger5828 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I committed sorcery, idolatry, witchcraft, and swearing during the pandemic. I have repented but I think that I would not fit the ministry role because of my past sins.

    • @user-iz8np3vv4i
      @user-iz8np3vv4i 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service, even though I was previously a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief; and the grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the faith and love which are found in Christ Jesus. It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost. Yet for this reason I found mercy, so that in me as the foremost sinner Jesus Christ might demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those who would believe in Him for eternal life.
      -excerpt 1 Timothy 1
      -words of Paul

  • @Ginoch3
    @Ginoch3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Allen,
    Great video as always.
    With due respect, how do you select which responses to your videos you give likes to? From going through the many responses and comments, in this and other videos, correct me if I am wrong, but it seems you only acknowledge those who in some way or another agree with you or support you? Also, being fair to everyone, you have been very critical and harsh on false teachers, mostly the ones who are rich, famous and have these mega-churches, why were you kinder or accepting with Evans. You know him, because he is black?
    Just curious sir.

  • @rudyvrobertsjr2893
    @rudyvrobertsjr2893 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Any pastor or leader that commits adultery or pedo
    Isn’t worthy of teaching
    Priest and prophets and apostles were held to higher standards
    Even the scripture says
    Teachers will have a stricter judgement because they knew better

  • @clarkkent5442
    @clarkkent5442 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so you believe in confession? to whom?

  • @wspivey4443
    @wspivey4443 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pastor Daniel Muir needs to be in this category