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So there are a few things he didnt mention on this for the Canik. The Salient barrel on the Canik is a fluted match grade barrel, the slide is nitride coated underneath the cerakote, so there is double protection there. The next is that the internals on the Canik like the striker block, trigger bar and a few others are nickle boron coated which will make them nice and slick. As far as things go, I use this as a carry gun, with a RMR HRS, and i train to use my window without the dot if it ever were to fail. ive carried custom glock 17/19s, smith and wesson shield, walther pps and others, this is by far one of the best guns especially for the money. the 509 really doesn't add up.
I have a FN 509 it’s never done me wrong. Never jammed ,always held its weight . Love the 2 24 round mag that come with it. I Can’t say anything bad about Canik.
Watched many of your comparisons and reviews. By far the most educated, well laid out, and quality table top reviews on TH-cam. Between you and nutnfancy, I can stay occupied for hours! I have the tp9sfx and absolutely love it. Although I love my glocks, my canik beats my glock 34 gen 5 all day long out of the box. Awesome video as usual.
I own almost every Canik out just a couple that I don’t have. One of the best shooting pistols out there. The Canik executive is my EDC and I switched to the Canik from the Glock 45 9mm. Can’t say enough about Canik. Too notch equipment in my opinion.
Just got my Elite Combat Executive. Using the AlienGear shapeshift IWB holster for it in appendix carry position. Any particular holsters or compensators you have tested?
@@ericchatman7220 - You could always buy 18 round mags for the elite sc (in stock at grab a gun, made by century arms) along with mag sleeves for them from bloody wheels. That's what I did.
Completely agree on your decision. I have seen these elite combats going for $650.00 street price. You are getting a damn nice pistol for that price point, accurate, nice trigger, sights, magwell. This was a no brainer for me for the price tag alone. Good review
Just picked one up used for $500 everything in original box included with a vortex viper red dot sight. I just robbed my local gun store essentially 🤣. Cant wait to range test this badass fucker
I have just bought the canik sfx. I would have to say for what I spent on it. It is by far one of the best guns out there Evan at full price. No need to improve. Smooth shooting great trigger.
This video was for me. I can only have one. I chose the CANIK. Price had nothing to do with it. I do plan on carrying the canik during the winter months. Right now I carry SIG 365. Thank you for the video.
Love your videos. I’ve been shooting for a lot of years, especially from the time I was in the military. But really have only built up a good collection of guns over the last 5 years. It’s struck me that we live in a time where there are just *so many* good firearms. It’s amazing. Thanks for your videos- very much enjoy them. One wish - would like to see more comparisons between CZ and Sig pistols. Both awesome lines. Anyway thanks and happy 2019!
I completely agree that there are a lot of great guns out there! Makes it tough to decide sometimes, lol. As for CZs vs Sigs, we shall see what 2019 has in store. Thank you and cheers Eric!
I have a Canik and it has never had a malfunction, with low powered ammo or carry ammo it doesn't matter it fires it all. I have no complaint with these guns
@@dougsmith2658 What do you base that off of ? I have never heard of anyone having problems with a Canik even with thousands of rounds through them. Why in every comment section does there have to be at least one dick like you?
At the opening of your video the way you said ehhh about the canik made me think you was going with the 509... glad you made the right chose 😂😂 love my canik
I went with the Canik. I don’t regret getting it and am very pleased with it. I’m sure the 509 is a great pistol too and I understand why there is a price difference. My Elite Combat is a great pistol and your video helped me decide on which one to buy.
Great comparison. I just added a Canik TP9 elite tactical to my collection to replace my previous ccw. So far I love it. It came with a Vortex viper and between that and the Salient barrel you basically get the rest of the gun for nearly free. Mine came 1/2x28 out of the box so I wanted to point out that Canik offers 2 thread pitch options, 1 being the metric 13mm x (I can't remember) and the SAE 1/2 x 28. Just throwing that out there.
Super video for two super handgun :) thanks a lot @KSGunGuy, I was waiting for this comparison so hard. I have TP9 SFx and TP9 Elite Combat, I love them, but I also fell in love with 509, another super gun which is full of full with features. Thank you again for the satisfying review. But please feel free if you want to make another review for their internal, mechanical comparison :)
I will jump in as the owner of the FN 509 Compact MRD pistol. It’s an extremely accurate pistol, but be prepared to replace the striker pin with the Apex striker pin, as mine broke after 100 rounds. It’s also recommended that you don’t dry fire the pistol. The trigger is nothing to get excited about, but if you want to replace it, you will need a special harness as the trigger pin is not meant to be pulled out. I have also been waiting for months for the shim to be in stock for the Trijicon plate. Salient arms picked a winner with the Canik pistol.
@@chltmdwp If it’s new 509CC then they installed a new trigger, if it’s the one with brake in the shoe then you may have the old style one. I ended up with a 20 dollar spring upgrade from MCarbo.
The Canik TP9sf Elite Combat Executive is a black on black version of the Elite Combat that comes with TiN coated, gold colored barrel that’s threaded 1/2x28 from Salient Arms International.
@@domsugar9160 If you've ever owned a Canik you'd understand. I have the TP9SF Elite, stock, and put it up against my friends 509 with the Apex trigger and match grade barrel.... still superior shooting experience with my Canik, superior accuracy too, and the trigger still felt better to me. Plus the Canik comes stock with NATO match grade barrel.
@@tonydo9291 you're right Tony I don't own one and maybe that's why I don't understand I'm not saying it's not a good pistol but I just honestly don't believe it's better than the FN Tactical and by me saying that that pistol is just an upgrade from a Hi-Point maybe that was a little out of hand but I just don't think it's in the same category much less better maybe you could put that pistol in the category as in a Masada better then taurus but not a f&n h&k glock cz or springfield shoot not even a ruger or beretta all these Brands been around for a very long time and they all proven to be good quality give the canik 10 more years and if its still good as u all say it is then it has earned the right to be in those categories but right now it's too early to even be in the category must less you say it's better.
Dom sugar looks like you’re the one smoking crack my man. Just because it isn’t a big name it isn’t better? What kind of foolish logic is that? Thats the point of this gun it can compete with any of the top companies gun a $600-$800 gun that sits with the $1200+ guns. Swallow your pride dude. I own Sig, Glock, and S&W btw. You’re ranking this as if you were 12 years old.
@@domsugar9160 canik has been around much longer than you think, and the quality is right there with all the brands you mentioned and has a better trigger than most of them
Haven’t shot the elite combat, but I have shot the Canik TP9 and FN 509 Tactical and the trigger on just the base TP9 is worlds better than the 509, Canik produces some high quality firearms at a fraction of the cost of other manufacturers. Great video KS!
because its made in Turkey, in Turkeywe have lower employee costs and quality materials are much cheaper than EU or USA so they can lower their price point. Also they are trying to make a name and cutting the price. Buy it while its cheap, it will get higher soon once they make their name heard
The Canik sells almost everywhere for $650. Knowing how responsive Canik is to customers within two years that optics cut will be adjusted so you do not lose your rear site. EDIT: I was correct they fixed the optics cut to keep rear sight on their latest pistol.
The Canik has an AMAZING trigger right out of the box. As soon as I felt one, it made me cry almost. I work hard to create something close to this on a Glock and I was loving the Canik right out of the box. For me....the TP9 is my style. The 509 is just boring in comparison.
I have a TP9SA that is just a tack driver and if I didn't have so many other projects and amazing guns, the Canik/Salient would be top of my list. Out of the box it is worthy of the price tag.
I just bought a Canik Elite Combat and I was pretty happy with the purchase, but after watching review video, after review video it's been all positive, I'm really excited and can't wait to get it to the range.
Should of just sootched it and said love em both cant go wrong .. great companies... no winners or losers here... just keep the free products and sponsors coming... long live the republic
So are you saying I should pick up the apex for my 509ct? I already got the apex striker because I heard of the breaking issue but I was holding off on the trigger. I'm planning on rotating it in with my Glock 19 once it proves itself. People say glock trigger sucks but I have my 19 worn in just right that 509 was hot garbage. Striker cleaned it up a little bit I'm on the fence about the whole kit. I've never really been big on changing internals but I'm also a recovering Glock addict what are your thoughts? Is it worth it for CCW\ small critter control on the farm? Groundhogs are KOS around here!
Love the detail of the video, though I’m not sure that choosing the Canik “as a range toy” really abides by what I would expect of the “if I could only have one” philosophy - if I can only have one, it will answer multiple roles
The concept isn't "if I could only have one gun". It's "if I could only choose one of the two being reviewed"; not that I can't have additional guns, I just don't get to have both the FN and the Canik. It's just a made up game for fun :)
I have the Tp9sa . . mod 2. I've spent serious time with it. I just can't get over the fact that one can buy a pistol this good for the price. I haven't met anyone who has spent time with the Caniks and failed to not be impressed. When someone asks me my opinion . . I tell them . . " buy it"! It's a "no brainer"!
Just got the canik elite combat executive model yesterday. About to go shoot right now. Just FYI newer elite combat models only come with the #1 red dot base plate now not 4 base plates. They are for sale separately though. And they are threaded 1/2×28 now also.
The Canik is a fantastic shooter. I don't have an FN, nor have I ever shot one, but the trigger and sights for the Canik will change the mind of anyone who shoots it. It amazes me that other companies haven't taken the trigger quality as seriously as Canik. Walther has a great trigger as well, but none of the others in the striker fire market have done so. Until the others get on board, I'll be hard pressed to buy anything else. I have three full sized Caniks, but the Elite Combat is on my Christmas list. I can't wait to get my hands on it and throw some lead down range.
LOL, loved the beginning intro! MMM I think the features of the 509 for only $200 more seals the deal. Suppressor height night sights, Co-witness ability and magazines doe it for me.
I own this Canik and I absolutely love it!! I also own a Canik tp9 sf elite wth Odgreen slide which is my edc gun. Ive tried and owned all the big names but i always came back to my Caniks... imo Canik hands down!!!
Own many TP9 pistols and somehow they keep improving. On the fence about this can ready version but now my mind is made up! Thank you for a great review! Subscribed!
I just brought the tp9da home last Monday and already put 1k rounds through it. All different types of ammo from cheap steel and aluminum to the higher prices bras and hollow points not a single issue so far. Only problem with it is the horrible grip. I hate plastic stippling so I had to put rubber grip tape on those areas. Made it so much better
Great comparison. I’ve heard the 509 trigger is a disappointment from two other good sources. Thanks for the honest review. I have a TP9SFX and a PPQ long-slide. It’s hard to have a favorite between the two. Canik has really produced some great and affordable guns that match up to guns in much higher price ranges. Good day.
Great review. The FN is a beast! I view it as an S&W M&P on steroids. Way too big to carry, but great for military and police or perhaps, home defense, but doesn't really appeal to me. I can tell you really don't love it, but like me, appreciate it's quality and just plain awesomeness. It's my choice if I have to pick just one. However, since I'm not a reviewer, I have no idea what I'd do with it...probably, sell it and buy two other guns, or like Dave Gass, below: one really incredible gun. Can't wait for your 2019 comparisons. 👍
Very well said Mean! It’s an awesome gun with all of the bells and whistles. You are very perceptive in that it just doesn’t wow me like some guns. Thank you as always and cheers brother!
what an interesting topic! I am a canik shooter thru and thru just for the value at the price point, but the FN is a "dream gun" for me considering its damn near $1000, and I've wanted to get it in the future when I had that money to burn. With that being said, this is a fantastic video! got a sub here buddy boi
For me it would be the Canuck in every situation! I can’t see paying $250 more for the FN then having to purchase a new trigger just to get the performance close to the Canuck. Buying a third Canuck mag is a lot cheaper to even the mag count. While FN’s are nice weapons overall they are just too pricey for what they are. The Canuck just smokes all the sub $1,000 pistols and I’m getting my Combat Executive next week !
Picked up the Combat Executive today. Has standard threads. But I love the Canik. Picked it over a VP9. Only company that I know of that can compete with Canik as far as trigger is Walther.
That combat executive is just a beautiful gun the amazing trigger just makes it that much sweeter plus they changed the thread pitch to the more common (in the U.S.) 1/2x28.
You did a great thing picking it over the vp9,I shot a tp9sf elite compact along side my vp9sk and the canik was better by alot Shot way way better. Not necessarily accuracy but recoil and staying on target was way softer and better with the canik. Both shot perfect with o malfunctions. I ended up trading the Vp9sk for a cz p10 c.
I actually just picked a 509T up last night but they changed things up and no longer comes with a third magazine nor does it come with the 21 lb spring if you wanted to run a suppressor. So now it just comes with the 17 and 24 round magazine and the two back straps which isn't a deal-breaker but having extra mags always is a plus
Good fair review of the two. I'm one of the suggesters for the topic. I have a TPS SFX and my trigger was a bit gritty. I polished everything and now it is better than my Walther PPQ Q4 trigger. I would have to go with the Canik.
I must say that you have great taste in firearms!!! And I agree with you that the canik is an awesome firearm, I'm actually in the process of purchasing one at cabelas as i write this post...!
That trigger alone on Canik blows that FN out of the water. Even with trigger upgrade 509 still has a long reset travel vs Canik's stock trigger. Much like most FN's other products 509 is overpriced at least by $200 in my opinion.
The prices are the same on both pistols Except you can get the FN for that price with a basic optic on it from Cabela’s/bass pro Not only that the Canik has about a mile of spongey take up on its “awesome trigger”
@@tedpendagast579 I respectfully disagree. Price of FN 509 is around $900. At least that’s what I’ve been seeing. On the other hand, I got my Canik TP9SF Combat Elite for below $700. So that’s at least $200 difference give or take. But that’s not even the real difference maker. The real difference is industry leading among (striker fire pistols) Canik’s legendary trigger. No way FN’s stock trigger can do better than Canik. And I’m not the only one who says this. Pretty everyone who has any experience with Caniks can confirm this.
@@SOBIsHobbies just about everyone raving about the trigger are one of ten million New gun owners Prices right now 999 at Cabela’s for a 509 tactical with sight And $900 for a combat elite without a sight Not last year Not a few months ago when you bought your gun Right now
@@tedpendagast579 so that means it’s a testament to Canik’s continuous success since their prices are gradually going up. I remember these Caniks could’ve been gotten for around $600 not in too distant past. Meanwhile 509 has always been selling around $1000 since its inception or maybe even more. Out of most FN owners I know how much overpriced FN products are. I own several of their higher end products (SCAR 16S, 17S, 20S and FNX 45 Tactical). I own them because well… because I can. But that doesn’t go without saying that in average their products are overpriced by 20%. Not saying they’re unreliable or unworthy, not at all (otherwise I wouldn’t have owned them myself). However, I wouldn’t refrain myself from saying that they’re absolutely overpriced by at least 20%. With all that said if it was my OWN money and if I could buy only one I would go with Canik everyday and twice on Sundays. And I always recommend Canik to everyone who wants to get best bang for their hard earned bucks.
Anyone that can watch your videos and say that you're biased in any way is in need of a mental eval. Lol. Another great one buddy. Thanks for all you do.
My buddy got the same deal and shortly thereafter I was looking for fn tact at LGS I had the FN in my hand ready to buy when LGS owner says “have you held the canik?” And the rest is history got my tp9 EC for 659.99 and can’t wait to show my buddy this video!
For a range gun many the Canik. I own one of each. For every day carry it's no brainier for me 509m just not really ready to trust my life with my caniks yet. fan has been a proven manufacturer for years serving military and law enforcement for years
that's a cool mistake between these two from " the proven" point. Investigate Nato compliance norms and who prooves it then let us talk again. Also, it is not a self proven sidearm that the 2nd biggest army of Nato uses it. Range gun LOL. Also you own them. Comeooon
Just picked up the Canik TP9 elite combat. New ($699 Mar 22’) and love it. Had to have it just because of the trigger, and mag release. Out the box feels as good as a loaded aftermarket competition gun.
I had just bought the 509, before watching this video. I agree about the trigger, I'll be changing mine out, (I'm on hold & don't have it in hand yet) but the trigger was something I noticed while examining for purchase (not the worst trigger, but can be better)...Other than that, through Bass Pro, the one I've purchased, comes with a Vortex Venom Red Dot ($225), already mounted & for $999....& yes, with the red dot attached, You can use the iron sites... The 509 is a big gun that feels really good in the hand, not really a CCW for someone my size ...the Canik has to be a Hog Leg of a gun, it's definitely bigger all the way around... FN 509 is produced right here in the good ole USA...No knock on Canik, but I'm a Homer, not a Turk supporter... I can live with my purchase, even though I could've save a couple hundred buckaroos. The video would have influenced me none, although it did open my eyes to another great product & the fierce fight for excellence when it comes to great quality firearms.
you cant use it in the way it was made for. Almost no one has a left hand twist on their suppressors, if you put a red dot on it you lose your backup sight, If you don't put a red dot on it you cant see over your suppressor to know what your shooting and 1 extended mag.. what is that? after buying the suppressor adapter changing the sights and buying an extra extended range mag your looking at more then what you can get a 509 for.
Some pistol makers don’t include the length of the suppressor ready pistol to barrel length in their description which adds over a half inch in most cases. A 4 1/2 “ barrel becomes over 5” with Suppressor cap add on.
Good Review! i was supposed to pick up my sig p320 m-17 tomorrow. Not Happening! i had changed my mind reading the description within moments. hopped on you tube to see if my gut was steering me right and i'm just stocked that i didnt buy that sig. To all who forget, mil spec/issue sounds cool but its definition is exceptable standards by the lowest bidder. So ill take the $610 cash and done canik over that m-17's $650 base price all day. Cant wait Fugly extendo mags or clean cut. How wide is your hand. I am a little worried about my pinky finger floating in space after i had the subcompact XDM. Also was i imagining a lubricatiion treated iower: NiB, orblack nitride???
That salient arms barrel and the trigger alone makes canik a winner imo
I agree and i luv fn
Apparently you’ve never heard how amazing FN barrels are
@@italianrelic own both there are both really nice no complaints out of either...pretty much preferences
What about the prices?
Canik for the win.! I have a sfx and I love it.! FN is way to pricey
Canik Elite Combat has so many great features right out of the box. Amazing trigger. My choice for the price. Got one today.
This would have been my reply, exactly. Great choice, Nice gun. Love the black with the gold barrel.
So there are a few things he didnt mention on this for the Canik. The Salient barrel on the Canik is a fluted match grade barrel, the slide is nitride coated underneath the cerakote, so there is double protection there. The next is that the internals on the Canik like the striker block, trigger bar and a few others are nickle boron coated which will make them nice and slick. As far as things go, I use this as a carry gun, with a RMR HRS, and i train to use my window without the dot if it ever were to fail. ive carried custom glock 17/19s, smith and wesson shield, walther pps and others, this is by far one of the best guns especially for the money. the 509 really doesn't add up.
I have a FN 509 it’s never done me wrong. Never jammed ,always held its weight . Love the 2 24 round mag that come with it. I Can’t say anything bad about Canik.
Watched many of your comparisons and reviews. By far the most educated, well laid out, and quality table top reviews on TH-cam. Between you and nutnfancy, I can stay occupied for hours! I have the tp9sfx and absolutely love it. Although I love my glocks, my canik beats my glock 34 gen 5 all day long out of the box. Awesome video as usual.
Thank you very much for the kind words! I do agree that the Canik is awesome. They make great guns at a reasonable price. Cheers Conrad!
I own almost every Canik out just a couple that I don’t have. One of the best shooting pistols out there. The Canik executive is my EDC and I switched to the Canik from the Glock 45 9mm. Can’t say enough about Canik. Too notch equipment in my opinion.
How comfortable is it to conceal?
Have the SC ELITE but want more rounds was thinking about the executive for carry
Just got my Elite Combat Executive. Using the AlienGear shapeshift IWB holster for it in appendix carry position. Any particular holsters or compensators you have tested?
@@ericchatman7220 - You could always buy 18 round mags for the elite sc (in stock at grab a gun, made by century arms) along with mag sleeves for them from bloody wheels. That's what I did.
@@ikigai47 yea what I did was start carry my mag from my SFX as a back up
Do you open carry the executive?
Completely agree on your decision. I have seen these elite combats going for $650.00 street price. You are getting a damn nice pistol for that price point, accurate, nice trigger, sights, magwell. This was a no brainer for me for the price tag alone. Good review
Totally agreed Hurt! There’s a lot to love with this Canik. I have been very impressed. Thank you and cheers brother!
I just got one for $650 out the door.
Just picked one up pretty much brand new in box only shot a few times for 550
Just picked one up used for $500 everything in original box included with a vortex viper red dot sight. I just robbed my local gun store essentially 🤣. Cant wait to range test this badass fucker
Gunbroker new $360!
I have just bought the canik sfx. I would have to say for what I spent on it. It is by far one of the best guns out there Evan at full price. No need to improve. Smooth shooting great trigger.
Congrats on the purchase! I do agree that they are awesome for the money. Thank you and cheers!
Definitely taking the canik. Better overall out of the box imo. Great video. Keep it up !
Right on! Thank you and cheers Trayvon!
This video was for me. I can only have one. I chose the CANIK. Price had nothing to do with it. I do plan on carrying the canik during the winter months. Right now I carry SIG 365. Thank you for the video.
Love your videos. I’ve been shooting for a lot of years, especially from the time I was in the military. But really have only built up a good collection of guns over the last 5 years. It’s struck me that we live in a time where there are just *so many* good firearms. It’s amazing. Thanks for your videos- very much enjoy them. One wish - would like to see more comparisons between CZ and Sig pistols. Both awesome lines. Anyway thanks and happy 2019!
I completely agree that there are a lot of great guns out there! Makes it tough to decide sometimes, lol. As for CZs vs Sigs, we shall see what 2019 has in store. Thank you and cheers Eric!
I have a Canik and it has never had a malfunction, with low powered ammo or carry ammo it doesn't matter it fires it all. I have no complaint with these guns
That’s awesome Kevin! They are great guns indeed. Thank you and cheers brother!
Never had a failure.
Probably put a box of rounds a yr through it
@@dougsmith2658 probably not, I have 4 caniks and have put about 2k rounds through them and no problems
@@dougsmith2658 What do you base that off of ? I have never heard of anyone having problems with a Canik even with thousands of rounds through them. Why in every comment section does there have to be at least one dick like you?
same here , purchased a month ago and have had no malfunctions so far. put around 400 rounds through it
😂😂 I knew you were going to pick the Canik. I just had a feeling.
It’s your fault. You’ve got me hooked back on them, lol. Thank you and cheers Matteo!
Just bought the Canik...shoots great & the trigger is awesome. Reset is shortest of any gun I have. Great review & I agree 100%.
At the opening of your video the way you said ehhh about the canik made me think you was going with the 509... glad you made the right chose 😂😂 love my canik
Excellent review! Just purchased my Canik TP9 Elite Comat. Can't wait to shoot it for break in. Its my second Canik. Fully in love....
I went with the Canik. I don’t regret getting it and am very pleased with it. I’m sure the 509 is a great pistol too and I understand why there is a price difference. My Elite Combat is a great pistol and your video helped me decide on which one to buy.
Great comparison. I just added a Canik TP9 elite tactical to my collection to replace my previous ccw. So far I love it. It came with a Vortex viper and between that and the Salient barrel you basically get the rest of the gun for nearly free. Mine came 1/2x28 out of the box so I wanted to point out that Canik offers 2 thread pitch options, 1 being the metric 13mm x (I can't remember) and the SAE 1/2 x 28. Just throwing that out there.
Do you cc chambered ?
Super video for two super handgun :) thanks a lot @KSGunGuy, I was waiting for this comparison so hard. I have TP9 SFx and TP9 Elite Combat, I love them, but I also fell in love with 509, another super gun which is full of full with features. Thank you again for the satisfying review. But please feel free if you want to make another review for their internal, mechanical comparison :)
Thank you for the suggestion! I'll see what I can do about an internal look. Thank you and cheers!
Hopefully the Canik Combat Elite will be my next firearm. Great comparison as always.
I think you’ll really like it! Thank you and cheers!
Picked one up. Just a blast to shoot. I may need to sell some others from the safe bc they probably will not get much range time now.
It has a great price as well ❤️❤️❤️
Im sticking to Canik for now
@@MessiahKnight I have one and it's a great gun. Holster and 2 18 round mags and the price. Can't be beat.
I have both i have 2 switch out fn trigger and they r both amazing that can't is on point out the box
I will jump in as the owner of the FN 509 Compact MRD pistol. It’s an extremely accurate pistol, but be prepared to replace the striker pin with the Apex striker pin, as mine broke after 100 rounds. It’s also recommended that you don’t dry fire the pistol. The trigger is nothing to get excited about, but if you want to replace it, you will need a special harness as the trigger pin is not meant to be pulled out. I have also been waiting for months for the shim to be in stock for the Trijicon plate. Salient arms picked a winner with the Canik pistol.
I concur Dr.
My trigger is still fine. I think they fixed it a while back.
@@chltmdwp If it’s new 509CC then they installed a new trigger, if it’s the one with brake in the shoe then you may have the old style one. I ended up with a 20 dollar spring upgrade from MCarbo.
The Canik TP9sf Elite Combat Executive is a black on black version of the Elite Combat that comes with TiN coated, gold colored barrel that’s threaded 1/2x28 from Salient Arms International.
Thanks a lot for your detailed review.
Dude, other than price? This in itself is a huge factor. Good video, thanks for taking the time, a nice polished production."
Price can definitely be a factor my friend. Thank you and cheers!
2 weeks ago I had this debate with myself on which I should pick. I walked away with a canik. Very happy with my purchase
What’s it like finding parts?
@@mustang13990shhh don’t speak
@@mustang13990 exactly why i sold mine and went with the FN for a EDC LOL
Yes. Canik all the way!
Canik over the 509? Smoking some good shit my man
@@domsugar9160 If you've ever owned a Canik you'd understand. I have the TP9SF Elite, stock, and put it up against my friends 509 with the Apex trigger and match grade barrel.... still superior shooting experience with my Canik, superior accuracy too, and the trigger still felt better to me. Plus the Canik comes stock with NATO match grade barrel.
@@tonydo9291 you're right Tony I don't own one and maybe that's why I don't understand I'm not saying it's not a good pistol but I just honestly don't believe it's better than the FN Tactical and by me saying that that pistol is just an upgrade from a Hi-Point maybe that was a little out of hand but I just don't think it's in the same category much less better maybe you could put that pistol in the category as in a Masada better then taurus but not a f&n h&k glock cz or springfield shoot not even a ruger or beretta all these Brands been around for a very long time and they all proven to be good quality give the canik 10 more years and if its still good as u all say it is then it has earned the right to be in those categories but right now it's too early to even be in the category must less you say it's better.
Dom sugar looks like you’re the one smoking crack my man. Just because it isn’t a big name it isn’t better? What kind of foolish logic is that? Thats the point of this gun it can compete with any of the top companies gun a $600-$800 gun that sits with the $1200+ guns. Swallow your pride dude. I own Sig, Glock, and S&W btw. You’re ranking this as if you were 12 years old.
@@domsugar9160 canik has been around much longer than you think, and the quality is right there with all the brands you mentioned and has a better trigger than most of them
FN is my pic as I own one! Thanks for another great video!
Happy New Year!
It’s a grea gun indeed! Happy New Year to you as well brother. Cheers!
Ive always wanted a fn just never pulled the trigger ONE DAY IT WILL BE MINE thanks for another good video almost at 20k bud keep going strong
It will be yours indeed! I think you’ll really like it. Thank you and cheers brother!
Haven’t shot the elite combat, but I have shot the Canik TP9 and FN 509 Tactical and the trigger on just the base TP9 is worlds better than the 509, Canik produces some high quality firearms at a fraction of the cost of other manufacturers. Great video KS!
I totally agree about the triggers Jake! Thank you and cheers brother!
because its made in Turkey, in Turkeywe have lower employee costs and quality materials are much cheaper than EU or USA so they can lower their price point. Also they are trying to make a name and cutting the price. Buy it while its cheap, it will get higher soon once they make their name heard
The Canik sells almost everywhere for $650. Knowing how responsive Canik is to customers within two years that optics cut will be adjusted so you do not lose your rear site. EDIT: I was correct they fixed the optics cut to keep rear sight on their latest pistol.
Good choice, My edc is the Tp9sf Elite and it’s a freaking work horse. I could only image how nice the combat is. But good choice.
I have both, you are spot on in your evaluation.
One important thing - do they fixed firing pin breakages? I hope yes...
The Canik has an AMAZING trigger right out of the box. As soon as I felt one, it made me cry almost. I work hard to create something close to this on a Glock and I was loving the Canik right out of the box. For me....the TP9 is my style. The 509 is just boring in comparison.
Well said Pontoon! Their triggers are insane but yours are no slouches either brother. Thank you and cheers!
I have a TP9SA that is just a tack driver and if I didn't have so many other projects and amazing guns, the Canik/Salient would be top of my list. Out of the box it is worthy of the price tag.
I totally understand and agree about the Elite Combat. I’ll send you mine to play around with.
@@KSGunGuy01 I will take you up.on that
Awesome!
Centerfire always is a nice place to shoot. Good guys that work there and renting by the caliber is nice. Good video, like the detail.
I agree about Centerfire! Thank you and cheers!
I just bought a Canik Elite Combat and I was pretty happy with the purchase, but after watching review video, after review video it's been all positive, I'm really excited and can't wait to get it to the range.
Should of just sootched it and said love em both cant go wrong .. great companies... no winners or losers here... just keep the free products and sponsors coming... long live the republic
I have both and love them both. FN is over priced for the similar/same functions. Canik is an up and comer, but I'm in with it.
Love your reviews. Ever plan to review the shadow systems mr920?
I'm in Overland Park KS, great review!
I have the Elite and I love it, I plan on getting the Combat Elite and the SFX. They are just too good to pass up for the price. Im a Canik Fanatic
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
I have an sfx and I highly recommend it everyone that I let shoot it loves it
Please do one with the Springfield Armory XDM Elite Tactical Optics ready.
You've always been honest in your reviews. I prefer the FN though. Nice job as always.
Thank you Keanon! Both are great for sure. That Canik is a hell of a shooter though. Cheers brother!
So are you saying I should pick up the apex for my 509ct? I already got the apex striker because I heard of the breaking issue but I was holding off on the trigger. I'm planning on rotating it in with my Glock 19 once it proves itself. People say glock trigger sucks but I have my 19 worn in just right that 509 was hot garbage. Striker cleaned it up a little bit I'm on the fence about the whole kit. I've never really been big on changing internals but I'm also a recovering Glock addict what are your thoughts? Is it worth it for CCW\ small critter control on the farm? Groundhogs are KOS around here!
Agree completely. Have shot both and prefer the Canik...in fact just bought the Canik. It's a great shooter!
That's awesome and congrats on the new Canik! Thank you and cheers!
Love the detail of the video, though I’m not sure that choosing the Canik “as a range toy” really abides by what I would expect of the “if I could only have one” philosophy - if I can only have one, it will answer multiple roles
The concept isn't "if I could only have one gun". It's "if I could only choose one of the two being reviewed"; not that I can't have additional guns, I just don't get to have both the FN and the Canik. It's just a made up game for fun :)
Hope you had a Very Merry Christmas KS and I want to wish you a Happy and prosperous New Year!
Indeed and I hope you did as well Vorka! Happy New Year brother. Cheers!
Nice comparison, just got my 509, can't wait to shoot it next week!
Right on and congrats! Thank you and cheers!
CANIK is the winner as usual
MoonMan thanks for spilling the beans you dick
@@andrewbryson3505 lol
Lol u crazy
@@andrewbryson3505 Andrew the Dick Head
Ive sold or traded my Sig, m&p and Cz handguns. Ive have tp9sfx, tp9 elite, tp9sc elite. They are most accurate, for me.
Another great entry in the series! With a surprise ending
Thank you CK! I was frankly a bit surprised as well, lol. Cheers!
Newer production Canik Elite Combats come with the 1/2x28 thread pitch FYI. They heard all the complaints and changed that up a while back.
Nice comparison and nice guns to have.
Thank you very much 32! Cheers!
I have the Tp9sa . . mod 2. I've spent serious time with it. I just can't get over the fact that one can buy a pistol this good for the price. I haven't met anyone who has spent time with the Caniks and failed to not be impressed. When someone asks me my opinion . . I tell them . . " buy it"! It's a "no brainer"!
I completely agree Stephen! They really are great guns for the money, even this one. Thank you and cheers brother!
Trigger is everything for me, I have to go with Canik. I'm looking to get one. I have the TP9Sfx
I just purchased a tp9sfx this week
How is tp9sfx
Just got the canik elite combat executive model yesterday. About to go shoot right now. Just FYI newer elite combat models only come with the #1 red dot base plate now not 4 base plates. They are for sale separately though. And they are threaded 1/2×28 now also.
The Canik is a fantastic shooter. I don't have an FN, nor have I ever shot one, but the trigger and sights for the Canik will change the mind of anyone who shoots it. It amazes me that other companies haven't taken the trigger quality as seriously as Canik. Walther has a great trigger as well, but none of the others in the striker fire market have done so. Until the others get on board, I'll be hard pressed to buy anything else. I have three full sized Caniks, but the Elite Combat is on my Christmas list. I can't wait to get my hands on it and throw some lead down range.
LOL, loved the beginning intro! MMM I think the features of the 509 for only $200 more seals the deal. Suppressor height night sights, Co-witness ability and magazines doe it for me.
Thanks C! I do agree that the FN is fully loaded and at the right deal, a very good bargain. Well said. Cheers!
I own this Canik and I absolutely love it!! I also own a Canik tp9 sf elite wth Odgreen slide which is my edc gun. Ive tried and owned all the big names but i always came back to my Caniks... imo Canik hands down!!!
Same it’s my first gun and have no problems at all
I love the canik also. I also love Sig and h&k. But that Canik is🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🦾🦾🦾🦾
Own many TP9 pistols and somehow they keep improving. On the fence about this can ready version but now my mind is made up! Thank you for a great review! Subscribed!
Watched the intro like 10 times XD so funny XD
Thank you very much! Cheers!
Got a 509c, no complaints. I guess ill have to add a canik to my collection.
have a TP9DA and love it.
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
I just brought the tp9da home last Monday and already put 1k rounds through it. All different types of ammo from cheap steel and aluminum to the higher prices bras and hollow points not a single issue so far. Only problem with it is the horrible grip. I hate plastic stippling so I had to put rubber grip tape on those areas. Made it so much better
I own one too
Another nice comparison as would love to own either but I would lean to the FN.....Good info sir.....Good stuff....
Thank you very much Scott! The FN is a fantastic gun indeed. Cheers brother!
Thanks for the video, the Canik is real similar to the Walther PPQ/P99 guns.
Thanks Glockster! I agree, definitely shares some Walther pedigree. Cheers!
The Canik makes me proud to be Turkish
@U S A says the American, lmao
@@yurauro1900 turkish brand bro. Pronounce: janic
Great comparison. I’ve heard the 509 trigger is a disappointment from two other good sources. Thanks for the honest review. I have a TP9SFX and a PPQ long-slide. It’s hard to have a favorite between the two. Canik has really produced some great and affordable guns that match up to guns in much higher price ranges. Good day.
Thank you! Yes, the FN trigger is pretty rough, although the Apex helps. I agree about Canik. Cheers!
The Trigger on the 509 Tac...
SUCKS..
At that price it should have an amazing Trigger.
Ill be Trading my 509Tac for a Canik
Great review. The FN is a beast! I view it as an S&W M&P on steroids. Way too big to carry, but great for military and police or perhaps, home defense, but doesn't really appeal to me. I can tell you really don't love it, but like me, appreciate it's quality and just plain awesomeness. It's my choice if I have to pick just one. However, since I'm not a reviewer, I have no idea what I'd do with it...probably, sell it and buy two other guns, or like Dave Gass, below: one really incredible gun. Can't wait for your 2019 comparisons. 👍
Very well said Mean! It’s an awesome gun with all of the bells and whistles. You are very perceptive in that it just doesn’t wow me like some guns. Thank you as always and cheers brother!
what an interesting topic! I am a canik shooter thru and thru just for the value at the price point, but the FN is a "dream gun" for me considering its damn near $1000, and I've wanted to get it in the future when I had that money to burn. With that being said, this is a fantastic video! got a sub here buddy boi
Right on! Both are great guns but I agree that the FN is a bit pricey. Thank you and cheers!
For me it would be the Canuck in every situation! I can’t see paying $250 more for the FN then having to purchase a new trigger just to get the performance close to the Canuck. Buying a third Canuck mag is a lot cheaper to even the mag count. While FN’s are nice weapons overall they are just too pricey for what they are. The Canuck just smokes all the sub $1,000 pistols and I’m getting my Combat Executive next week !
Canuck? I love Canadian firearms!!!
Picked up the Combat Executive today. Has standard threads. But I love the Canik. Picked it over a VP9. Only company that I know of that can compete with Canik as far as trigger is Walther.
That combat executive is just a beautiful gun the amazing trigger just makes it that much sweeter plus they changed the thread pitch to the more common (in the U.S.) 1/2x28.
Walther does have great triggers!
Quality over vp9 fit finish polymer quality
Canik makes a lot of walther internal parts
You did a great thing picking it over the vp9,I shot a tp9sf elite compact along side my vp9sk and the canik was better by alot
Shot way way better.
Not necessarily accuracy but recoil and staying on target was way softer and better with the canik.
Both shot perfect with o malfunctions.
I ended up trading the Vp9sk for a cz p10 c.
Just picked up the Canik. I really appreciate that they listened and fixed the thread pitch and got rid of the Sherpa style holster. That trigger...
I actually just picked a 509T up last night but they changed things up and no longer comes with a third magazine nor does it come with the 21 lb spring if you wanted to run a suppressor. So now it just comes with the 17 and 24 round magazine and the two back straps which isn't a deal-breaker but having extra mags always is a plus
Good fair review of the two. I'm one of the suggesters for the topic. I have a TPS SFX and my trigger was a bit gritty. I polished everything and now it is better than my Walther PPQ Q4 trigger. I would have to go with the Canik.
Thank you very much! Glad you got your SFX tuned up. They really are great guns, especially considering the price. Cheers brother!
Canik is the winner, no doubt about it !
I must say that you have great taste in firearms!!! And I agree with you that the canik is an awesome firearm, I'm actually in the process of purchasing one at cabelas as i write this post...!
Thank you! I think you will love it. Cheers!
Very good comparison. Your reviews are fair and balanced.
Going with the Canik.
Look up Taylor Freelance for all your Canik upgrade needs. You're welcome in advance 😏
That trigger alone on Canik blows that FN out of the water. Even with trigger upgrade 509 still has a long reset travel vs Canik's stock trigger. Much like most FN's other products 509 is overpriced at least by $200 in my opinion.
The prices are the same on both pistols
Except you can get the FN for that price with a basic optic on it from Cabela’s/bass pro
Not only that the Canik has about a mile of spongey take up on its “awesome trigger”
@@tedpendagast579 I respectfully disagree. Price of FN 509 is around $900. At least that’s what I’ve been seeing. On the other hand, I got my Canik TP9SF Combat Elite for below $700. So that’s at least $200 difference give or take. But that’s not even the real difference maker. The real difference is industry leading among (striker fire pistols) Canik’s legendary trigger. No way FN’s stock trigger can do better than Canik. And I’m not the only one who says this. Pretty everyone who has any experience with Caniks can confirm this.
@@SOBIsHobbies just about everyone raving about the trigger are one of ten million
New gun owners
Prices right now
999 at Cabela’s for a 509 tactical with sight
And $900 for a combat elite without a sight
Not last year
Not a few months ago when you bought your gun
Right now
@@tedpendagast579 so that means it’s a testament to Canik’s continuous success since their prices are gradually going up. I remember these Caniks could’ve been gotten for around $600 not in too distant past. Meanwhile 509 has always been selling around $1000 since its inception or maybe even more. Out of most FN owners I know how much overpriced FN products are. I own several of their higher end products (SCAR 16S, 17S, 20S and FNX 45 Tactical). I own them because well… because I can. But that doesn’t go without saying that in average their products are overpriced by 20%. Not saying they’re unreliable or unworthy, not at all (otherwise I wouldn’t have owned them myself). However, I wouldn’t refrain myself from saying that they’re absolutely overpriced by at least 20%. With all that said if it was my OWN money and if I could buy only one I would go with Canik everyday and twice on Sundays. And I always recommend Canik to everyone who wants to get best bang for their hard earned bucks.
@@SOBIsHobbies not a combat elite
Another great video. Yes. Canik. Are going 2 do the archon type b. Will love that.
Thank you! Yes, the Archon is on the way soon. Just finished with the testing at the range. Cheers!
Anyone that can watch your videos and say that you're biased in any way is in need of a mental eval. Lol. Another great one buddy. Thanks for all you do.
Thank you very much Jon! That truly means a lot brother. Cheers!
I got my 509 tactical for $620 after taxes online. Brand new. Gun prime.
Fuck me I just bought mine for 800 flat and i thought i got a deal
Definitely beats the Canik at that price
My buddy got the same deal and shortly thereafter I was looking for fn tact at LGS I had the FN in my hand ready to buy when LGS owner says “have you held the canik?” And the rest is history got my tp9 EC for 659.99 and can’t wait to show my buddy this video!
Wow I spent almost 1000 after taxes at a shop🤦🏾♂️
I call BS.
Canik Combat power
Competently agree with you. Great review.
Thanks Anthony! Cheers brother!
Great video definitely comes down to what its purpose is for. 100%
Thank you and I agree about purpose! Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 hey email me at Tnsteyr@gmail i have some to share with you.
Email sent!
Between these two the FN for me ALL THE WAY !!!
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
For a range gun many the Canik. I own one of each. For every day carry it's no brainier for me 509m just not really ready to trust my life with my caniks yet. fan has been a proven manufacturer for years serving military and law enforcement for years
that's a cool mistake between these two from " the proven" point. Investigate Nato compliance norms and who prooves it then let us talk again. Also, it is not a self proven sidearm that the 2nd biggest army of Nato uses it. Range gun LOL. Also you own them. Comeooon
Just picked up the Canik TP9 elite combat. New ($699 Mar 22’) and love it. Had to have it just because of the trigger, and mag release. Out the box feels as good as a loaded aftermarket competition gun.
I’ve heard when you narrate you need to pretend you’re talking to children….you are spot on!
I picked up a TP9 elite Combat brand new for $640. That ended the conversation for me.
Justin R. Where at brother?
Picked up 509 Tac for $700
I just got a 509 tac for the same price a few days ago.
@@SelectNation702 where did you find one that cheap?
I_am_sme11y i got it on grabagun.com and requested a quote for a cheaper price, and it went down.
This was prior to Covid prices lol
Both great guns, money saved by buying the Canik means more ammo and range time
Shooter Industries yep that’s what assholes do
I agree about the money saved. Thank you and cheers!
Hadda watch and man im so glad u said canik but i really wanted more on the shooting experience such as accuracy and durability
Canik durability is well documented
They've been tested to 60k rds and further and still pass nato accuracy specs!!!
Lol this is exactly what I was looking for today after seeing the canik in person today
Glad to help! Thank you and cheers!
Canik is the best
I had just bought the 509, before watching this video. I agree about the trigger, I'll be changing mine out, (I'm on hold & don't have it in hand yet) but the trigger was something I noticed while examining for purchase (not the worst trigger, but can be better)...Other than that, through Bass Pro, the one I've purchased, comes with a Vortex Venom Red Dot ($225), already mounted & for $999....& yes, with the red dot attached, You can use the iron sites...
The 509 is a big gun that feels really good in the hand, not really a CCW for someone my size ...the Canik has to be a Hog Leg of a gun, it's definitely bigger all the way around...
FN 509 is produced right here in the good ole USA...No knock on Canik, but I'm a Homer, not a Turk supporter...
I can live with my purchase, even though I could've save a couple hundred buckaroos. The video would have influenced me none, although it did open my eyes to another great product & the fierce fight for excellence when it comes to great quality firearms.
Awesome review as usual, what about Glock G5 MOS , any input between the 3 ? Thank you and Happy New Year !!!
Great question! I’d lean towards the Glock for the price and ease of modifying. That said, any will serve well. Thank you and cheers!
Buy all three there's nothing wrong with tha!t
Thanks for another honest review.
My pleasure Randolph! Thank you and cheers brother!
The Canik elite..a gun so elite that no one uses it..
Except for those that do, lol. Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 it is gaining popularity at shooting matches...I just worry about spare parts
Lol no one serious anyways
you cant use it in the way it was made for. Almost no one has a left hand twist on their suppressors, if you put a red dot on it you lose your backup sight, If you don't put a red dot on it you cant see over your suppressor to know what your shooting and 1 extended mag.. what is that? after buying the suppressor adapter changing the sights and buying an extra extended range mag your looking at more then what you can get a 509 for.
RockHumper I got one, my edc!
Nice comparison, nice Gus, for me I will go for the FN
Very cool! Thank you and cheers!
Some pistol makers don’t include the length of the suppressor ready pistol to barrel length in their description which adds over a half inch in most cases. A 4 1/2 “ barrel becomes over 5” with Suppressor cap add on.
Well said! Thank you and cheers!
Good Review! i was supposed to pick up my sig p320 m-17 tomorrow. Not Happening! i had changed my mind reading the description within moments. hopped on you tube to see if my gut was steering me right and i'm just stocked that i didnt buy that sig. To all who forget, mil spec/issue sounds cool but its definition is exceptable standards by the lowest bidder. So ill take the $610 cash and done canik over that m-17's $650 base price all day. Cant wait Fugly extendo mags or clean cut. How wide is your hand. I am a little worried about my pinky finger floating in space after i had the subcompact XDM. Also was i imagining a lubricatiion treated iower: NiB, orblack nitride???