@@Hannari-xt6nr True story. The phone function has become more a technical formality now. And those few who still make calls do so veeery strangely. What's this crazy idea about holding the phone horizontally in front of you and then yap on for dear life into the microphone?
I thought him pompous and intolerant of a anyone who thought differently than himself. He created his own class with just he in it between the servant and the servee's. He discouraged anyone improving themselves and his treatment of the other Butler was a key reason he got the bathtub water so so bloody. Wonderful guy, right.
If you think about it, the servants had difficulties with it because those technologies posed a literal existential threat to them. With electric mixers you didn't need a lot more extra kitchen maids, with telephones - extra servants/hall boys to run small errands and with refrigerators, all those dairy maids and even cooks were becoming obsolete.
Electricity in 1912 (season one) was actually rare to have in the countryside. Big British cities and towns had their own electricity companies, but smaller towns and villages didn't have it until after the first world war. This is why Downton has it's own generator to light the electric lights there as mentioned by Robert at 3:15
I can imagine such battles happened on a regular basis in the post-Victorian Era as older people tried to understand such newfangled devices as the telephone or the electric light. I remember how my paternal grandfather was completely befuddled by the desktop computer my parents bought in the early 1990s. He was born in 1918 and the closest thing to a “computer” they had in those days was an NCR cash register, haha.
The first scene is totally not believable. By the time this is set, 1915ish plus. Phones had been around for 20-25 years. They were hardly new. And the Dowager would have used one by now. We even had them in Melbourne, Australia in the 1880’s.
@xr6lad phones in private houses weren't widespread in the UK until the 1950s and 60s. People mostly used payphones in the first half of the century. My grandmother didn't have one when she first got married in 1955 and they weren't poor.
Before WW2, everyone in Europe was CONDITIONED to be an Imperialist and Traditionalist as they saw technology fairs as waste of perfectly good servants (slaves) and honor-bound ideals (lethal sword battles on pettiness).
"Daisy, may I ask *why* you have purchased a vibrating massage instrument?" -"It's... for me shoulder. I think I've pulled it." "I see. Well, I shall hope that this device will suit your needs." -"Yes, Mr. Carson. I'm sure it will. Thank you."
I seem to remember a similar scene in MadMen when a certain young woman was asked to test a product. It didn't at all behave itself in an appropriate manner.
"Why does every day involve a fight with an American?" 😂😂😂 Poor Violet, every day she has to struggle with Cora, also when Mrs Levinsons goes for a visit, and now an american invention 😂😂😂
"No, this is not the Chinese takeaway. This is a private, pearl white slimline telephone with last number redial, with no connection to the trades whatsoever."
Love Maggie Smith as the Dowager, I've watched her and all Downton over and over and see their brilliant acting every time. Edith-Laura said she had to fight to contain her laughter in the phone scene, she did well to hold herself together!
So true! At the same time I envy Laura, who had a chance to see such a wonderful acting in person. My grandmother is nearly 100 years old and she talks exactly like the Dowager did on a phone, even my grandma is a Japanese!
Love those old candlestick phones. I actually have two, one of which is genuine (sadly it probably doesn’t work)! The other is a more modern phone from the 70s or 80s designed to LOOK like a candlestick phone.
They young always embrace technology and drag along their unentusuastic elders, at least until such a time as the young are the elders and being dragged along. The older I get, the more my sympathies lie with the elder members of the house.
Watching Downton Abbey gave me an idea of the life style of my grandparents. They would have been age peers of Mary, Edith, and Sybil, having been born in 1889, 1890, 1891, and 1901. My mother’s parents were married in June 1912, 2 months after the Titanic’s sinking. My Dad’s parents married in 1917, just before Grampa was deployed to France.
Laura Carmichael does so well to keep it together in that first scene. Passing off what looked to be developing into a fairly catastrophic break of character as a smile of exasperation in-character. Oscar-worthy 😂
I can certainly relate to their resistance. I don't like the current tech in the 21th century. I still don't have an alexa in my house. It also took me years to get used to DVDs and ipods.
"Darkness called!!!!... But I was on the phone, so I missed him. I tried to *69-Darkness, but his machine picked up. I yelled "Pick up the phone, Darkness!," but he ignored me. Darkness must have been screening his calls."
The opening scene reminds me of the Bucket woman. I'm sorry, "Bouquet". 😂 "No, this is not the Chinese takeaway. This is a private, pearl white slimline telephone with last number redial, with no connection to the trades whatsoever."
I am deeply saddened by the loss of Dame Maggie Smith.. but what a life she has led! Incredible... and her 'one liners' on Downton are brilliant. So grateful there was no mention of PH and MM in CA. I've removed them from my watch list. Because they're aren't 'news', just tacky gossip. Love to know about the great work the RF are doing. Ignoring CA!
2:30 And now we are using our telephones to look at photos of people's pets or argue with other people on the Internet while we're, shall we say, biologically required to sit down for a few minutes.
The first scene is totally not believable. By the time this is set, 1915ish plus. Phones had been around for 20-25 years. They were hardly new. And the Dowager would have used one by now. We even had them in Melbourne, Australia in the 1880’s.
You could argue that it was how Downton was run, trying to remain as it was. I find that the series has a lot of those themes of the future creeping up on people who are afraid of change. Also, I don't remember, was it said how many year has passed since the former Earl, Robert's father, has passed? It could be that Robert and Cora were the ones who brought change to Downton, and that's why the telephone is a new thing in the House. The Dowager seems like the kind of women who wouldn't like her life to be disturbed by the "silly" things as the telephone.
The way the dowager speaks on the phone. Brilliant acting by Maggie Smith ...
"Is this an instrument of communication or torture?!?"
The Leeeeds Gennrall Infuuuuurm'arry... lol
Edith thought so too I was watching her expression.
I totally agree. She is a Marvel
why do british lords and ladies have such funny nicknames?
"Well my lady, I wouldn't mind getting rid of me corset."
And the patience in Cora's eyes... it was priceless.
2:33 "The telephone is not a toy!" .... Och, Mr. Carson, if only you were still around to see the year 2024... 😂😂
Just think how people in 2124 will be amused by watching us and our technology ;)
@@Hannari-xt6nr True story. The phone function has become more a technical formality now. And those few who still make calls do so veeery strangely. What's this crazy idea about holding the phone horizontally in front of you and then yap on for dear life into the microphone?
How lovely Granny is ,struggling with a telephone!
I love her so much!
Not much has changed “is this a instrument of communication or torture “
You can tell Laura Carmichael is trying with all her might not to crack up watching Maggie Smith on the phone and who can blame her? 😂
Specially in 0:20; 0:25 you can see she was about to laugh but held back with all her might 😂
In fact she said she corpsed in that scene but they thought Edith would find it funny so they left it there
"Well I daresay the things you do sound stupid to other people!"
True words, Mr. Carson. True words.
Mr. Carson's voice is like a fire. Warm and embracing. But rather dangerous as well
I thought him pompous and intolerant of a anyone who thought differently than himself. He created his own class with just he in it between the servant and the servee's. He discouraged anyone improving themselves and his treatment of the other Butler was a key reason he got the bathtub water so so bloody. Wonderful guy, right.
Dame Maggie was given absolutely the best lines in the history of scriptwriting
If you think about it, the servants had difficulties with it because those technologies posed a literal existential threat to them. With electric mixers you didn't need a lot more extra kitchen maids, with telephones - extra servants/hall boys to run small errands and with refrigerators, all those dairy maids and even cooks were becoming obsolete.
Yes they were expressing Luddism.
only to be absorbed into Britain's urban industrial class and an army of clerical staff needed to manage and run a modern welfare state.
Electricity in 1912 (season one) was actually rare to have in the countryside. Big British cities and towns had their own electricity companies, but smaller towns and villages didn't have it until after the first world war. This is why Downton has it's own generator to light the electric lights there as mentioned by Robert at 3:15
In Rural America most homes didnt have electricity until after World War 2.
Downton's Entire Cast is Absolutely PRICELESS ❤👍❤
I can imagine such battles happened on a regular basis in the post-Victorian Era as older people tried to understand such newfangled devices as the telephone or the electric light. I remember how my paternal grandfather was completely befuddled by the desktop computer my parents bought in the early 1990s. He was born in 1918 and the closest thing to a “computer” they had in those days was an NCR cash register, haha.
The first scene is totally not believable. By the time this is set, 1915ish plus. Phones had been around for 20-25 years. They were hardly new. And the Dowager would have used one by now. We even had them in Melbourne, Australia in the 1880’s.
@xr6lad phones in private houses weren't widespread in the UK until the 1950s and 60s. People mostly used payphones in the first half of the century. My grandmother didn't have one when she first got married in 1955 and they weren't poor.
Before WW2, everyone in Europe was CONDITIONED to be an Imperialist and Traditionalist as they saw technology fairs as waste of perfectly good servants (slaves) and honor-bound ideals (lethal sword battles on pettiness).
"Daisy, may I ask *why* you have purchased a vibrating massage instrument?" -"It's... for me shoulder. I think I've pulled it." "I see. Well, I shall hope that this device will suit your needs." -"Yes, Mr. Carson. I'm sure it will. Thank you."
I seem to remember a similar scene in MadMen when a certain young woman was asked to test a product. It didn't at all behave itself in an appropriate manner.
@@Robert08010The Relax-a-Cizor!
"Why does every day involve a fight with an American?" 😂😂😂
Poor Violet, every day she has to struggle with Cora, also when Mrs Levinsons goes for a visit, and now an american invention 😂😂😂
One of the funniest lines in the entire series imo😂. (Maybe because I’m not American, though 😂)
Carson reminded me a bit of the Bucket Woman... oh pardon me, Mrs Bouquet answering her telephone.
it’s bouquet 💐 lady of the house speaking
"No, this is not the Chinese takeaway. This is a private, pearl white slimline telephone with last number redial, with no connection to the trades whatsoever."
@@kellicoffman8440 Its Mr. Carson, Butler of the house speaking!
@@Robert08010 lol 😂
@@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER Doesn't she add something about it being a highly desirable neighborhood?
The fact that I can quote everything they say as they say it should tell me I've watched this show way too many times
Don’t feel bad! I’ve watched this entire series an ungodly amount of times 😂
I boast to quoting the script better than Julian Fellowes himself.
I'm watching this on my useful and valuable tool preventing me from going back to work.
I love the excitement displayed by the ones who are embracing this exciting new technology.
Carson and Lady Grantham's fightd against technology were the best of Dowton Abbey 😂😂
Love Maggie Smith as the Dowager, I've watched her and all Downton over and over and see their brilliant acting every time. Edith-Laura said she had to fight to contain her laughter in the phone scene, she did well to hold herself together!
So true! At the same time I envy Laura, who had a chance to see such a wonderful acting in person.
My grandmother is nearly 100 years old and she talks exactly like the Dowager did on a phone, even my grandma is a Japanese!
The older I get, the more I seem to relate to Carson.
You aren't the only one. 😊
Mrs. Patmore and Mrs. Byrd were awesome running the kitchen together!
The older you get the more you empathize 😅
RIP Mrs Hughes you would've loved air fryers
"I wouldn't touch that thing with a 10 foot pole."
Love how, despite being resigned to having to deal with an American invention, she's damned if she lets them beat her (with a chair no less)
Love those old candlestick phones. I actually have two, one of which is genuine (sadly it probably doesn’t work)! The other is a more modern phone from the 70s or 80s designed to LOOK like a candlestick phone.
Fabulous series and movies 👍👍👍
I ADORE Maggie Smith 😊
They young always embrace technology and drag along their unentusuastic elders, at least until such a time as the young are the elders and being dragged along. The older I get, the more my sympathies lie with the elder members of the house.
Amen to that!! I’m 56 and it took me years to get a smart phone
Well, when you realize that the inventions of that age will likely be the end of us, you aren't wrong.
That's as it should be. Carson would definitely tell you that.
@@princessofarchetypes3870my first cell phone = $24.95(USD)/month for 30 minutes/month. It’s a better world in most aspects.
Watching Downton Abbey gave me an idea of the life style of my grandparents. They would have been age peers of Mary, Edith, and Sybil, having been born in 1889, 1890, 1891, and 1901.
My mother’s parents were married in June 1912, 2 months after the Titanic’s sinking. My Dad’s parents married in 1917, just before Grampa was deployed to France.
never realized an electric Singer was already realized in the early 20th century, thought it was still either foot-pedaled or hand-cranked
Singer introduced the first practical electric machine in 1889
Awesome Show 👏👏👏
Laura Carmichael does so well to keep it together in that first scene. Passing off what looked to be developing into a fairly catastrophic break of character as a smile of exasperation in-character. Oscar-worthy 😂
Carson: Well what are you wearing?
Them: A cardigan?
Carson: Get off my phone!
I can certainly relate to their resistance. I don't like the current tech in the 21th century. I still don't have an alexa in my house. It also took me years to get used to DVDs and ipods.
Mrs Patmore was never keen on modern changes
"But she can take it over to the laundry, or Better still chuck it out all together."
As Thomas pointed out: She is not exactly a futurist 🤣🤣🤣
@@thomasplinguidy4588 Exactly
She wasn't wrong about most of them being out of a job though.
3:07 Our favorite moment. Long live the Lady Dowager Countess of Grantham!
Oh God she is always so good!!!!!👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I'd like to see a video of William Mason. He was pushed around badly by Thomas.
"Darkness called!!!!... But I was on the phone, so I missed him. I tried to *69-Darkness, but his machine picked up. I yelled "Pick up the phone, Darkness!," but he ignored me. Darkness must have been screening his calls."
When Carson came in at the end. Even Lady Rose left.
The opening scene reminds me of the Bucket woman. I'm sorry, "Bouquet". 😂
"No, this is not the Chinese takeaway. This is a private, pearl white slimline telephone with last number redial, with no connection to the trades whatsoever."
I am deeply saddened by the loss of Dame Maggie Smith.. but what a life she has led! Incredible... and her 'one liners' on Downton are brilliant. So grateful there was no mention of PH and MM in CA. I've removed them from my watch list. Because they're aren't 'news', just tacky gossip. Love to know about the great work the RF are doing. Ignoring CA!
These scenes are so cute 😂
2:30 And now we are using our telephones to look at photos of people's pets or argue with other people on the Internet while we're, shall we say, biologically required to sit down for a few minutes.
Torture yes Telephones turned out to be the Dark Mirror! What cha think Lady Dowager? Frightful ? Yes!
She was spot on it still is
What is this insipid device? It is most provoking and vexatious and frankly makes us Quite Cross! 🎉 🏆. LOL from DownTURN abbey 😉
Carson was such a hypocrite with that phone 😂
Imagine If Carson was around for the TV 😏
And people think I'm backwards because I won't buy the latest cell phone.
can relate
Maggie Smith was perfect as Violet.
We are at the same point with Aliens making Contact with Humans.
I am happy that we still use phones, for now.
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😂😂😂 U will only get a shock when u r going to listen it
The first scene is totally not believable. By the time this is set, 1915ish plus. Phones had been around for 20-25 years. They were hardly new. And the Dowager would have used one by now. We even had them in Melbourne, Australia in the 1880’s.
You could argue that it was how Downton was run, trying to remain as it was. I find that the series has a lot of those themes of the future creeping up on people who are afraid of change. Also, I don't remember, was it said how many year has passed since the former Earl, Robert's father, has passed? It could be that Robert and Cora were the ones who brought change to Downton, and that's why the telephone is a new thing in the House.
The Dowager seems like the kind of women who wouldn't like her life to be disturbed by the "silly" things as the telephone.
So funny
😊 💙 💯
We are all about to be replaced by AI, so this hasn't changed much.
Shrimpy?
The nickname of lady Rose's father
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Vapors seeping about.