For point-to-point, you have to build two launch pads close to two large cities. That seems very difficult. If you’ve seen a Starship launch in person, you know how much clear space is needed. That is difficult to find close to large cities.
@@mattrawson1311 It would still be faster probably, but a few hours added to each end of the trip makes it less amazing. Some cities might not even have a suitable launch site within a two or three hour bus ride. Hopefully some do.
great video. I have been lobbying the shadow science minister Paul Fletcher, for some time t advocate for the construction of a catch tower in Australia. Makes so much sense - for SpaceX, less concerns due to lighter shipping and air traffic, different orbital inclination, Australia stable politically, not far from equator etc., etc. for Australia, will really boost local space industry, one of (if not the) the fastest growing industries.
Howard government wanted to have a spaceport in FNQ, environmental influences kyboshed it. NT would probably be wiser, or across south west of Broome. Tie it to where sea based shipping terminals are, and materials resources flow through, add in some Sun City & Tesla power generation and storage, and put a Steel Mill in the same area, then convince businesses to save money and oil costs by shipping proccessed high grade ingots to international customers instead of raw iron ore.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes I like your imagination, but it's not realistic. Australia has been progressively closing steelworks nationwide, with only 2 hot plants left, and this will not be reversed by either side of politics, at a state or federal level - you said environmental influences stopped a space port on Cape York, well, just try building a steelworks in the Kimberley.... There is zero practical incentive for any project in Australia to use Australian made steel. Australia imports about 4 times more in steel products (by dollar value) than it exports. As for power generation, a blast furnace or rolling mill cannot stop and start based on the weather. Batteries and Solar will just not do it - not if you want the steel products to be affordable. I'd love to see value adding and manufacturing return to Australia, but until enough of us can convince the governments to incentivise it, and while labour costs are so high, it'll never happen.
@@cerealport2726 Sadly, you're most likely correct on the polotics side. Solar Thermal might be worth a read, where the Sun is used to heat a molten salt, and it's heat gets the steam going for turbines. Use a big enough thermal mass, keep the turbines spinning constantly. Once there is the power generation, the financial models will change for the corporations - once it is cheaper for them to export value added product, the change would drive itself. Elon wanting to assemble Starships with locally made Stainless Steel, rather then pay the shipping from the US, would certainly incentivise that.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Australia imports virtually all its stainless steel, except maybe for some niche companies. Besides...the Technology Safeguards Agreement (TSA) with the USA says that there is zero technology transfer with Australia. all rocket components and personnel are to be brought in from the USA, with everything done in isolation from Australians. It's possible this could change, but I wouldn't hold my breath. This does not help Aussie industry at all. Helps the USA nicely though... and we can thank both Labor and Liberal federal governments for that disastrous decision that they both hailed as a triumph. There hasn't been a financially successful molten salt solar plant anywhere they've been tried. At best, it'd be a government employment scheme that would only last until the next change in federal government. It'd be really good if at some point we didn't need to burn fossil fuels for reliable electricity, but the reality is, that wont be viable unless we go nuclear and that has its own problems, and is even less likely to progress with the way things are. There are so many optimistic Aussies with great ideas, and people with knowledge and skills, plus the desire to do things for Australia, in Australia, but it seems none of them can be found in any of our parliaments.
Two of my three favorite Space News people in one video! Great information!! Thanks! (Felix at WAI is my other favorite by the way 🙂) Go Australia Space!!
Marcus-you’re forgetting Australia’s significant involvement in Apollo ground tracking stations. Dying for you to do a deep dive on that including the lost Apollo 11 landing tapes. It’s been done before but you seem to be able to always add something interesting.
My father was the station director at Woomera and developed Muchea in WA. After which we moved to the U.S. where he continued to manage tracking at Merritt Island in Florida. Woomera was a fun place to live back then with Abbos and Roos wandering into town on occasion.
Difference is, when you get some oddball eccentric who wants to do crazy shit, NZ cheers them on, Australia cuts them down, the whole 'tall poppy' thing, of bogan heads not wanting to see someone else do better then they can. That shit's gotta change.
As an Englishman living in Australia, I find it weird that there isnt a launch complex here. Cause there are low population areas, and plenty of ocean for failures.
If you went to Australia for 1 month you would pick up the accent. When I was in western Australia in the 80's, my ship (US Navy west pact) spent 9 days there and everyone on the bridge spoke like an australian without even thinking about it. It was hillarious!😄
@@MarcusHouse Ain't that the truth, Aussie actors doing yank accents, it's not good. BTW, if you need a camo with streaming gear for a WA trip, I'm in Melbs. Was thinking about Cocos (Keeling) Islands, might be able to see re-entry over the Indian Ocean, share a feed back to Ellie, EDA, NSF and WAI. "Hey Hey, we here live watching for Re-Entry,..."
It's a loooooong way from Brisbane to NQ, It's the best part of 13 hours from Brisbane to the planned launch site in Bowen, that's if you can drive 13 hrs non stop (I can't, I'd need at least a few stops)
Wow, the Opera House, it's so beautiful. I love this island country, it has such a lovely vibe. My family lives there, thanks. Congrats to SpaceX, this is going to be a great event. ❤️👏👏👏🌟💥🔥🚀💫🌹🌿
Marcus Is fantastic Ellie, and as an Aussie, and a person who went to tassie for their honeymoon, Tasmania is a beautiful place to visit. Late September through to Christmas, around fruit and berry picking seasons, absolutely gorgeous. Couldn’t recommend the place and the people with anything other than 100% enthusiasm. You should go down there for a holiday some time!! Thanks to yourself and Marcus for a great segment. Greetings from the land down under!!
seems like perfect place to do a test point to point for space force, land in drink..then if spot on land out back on flip down legs..space force does want point to point abilities. Ty Ellie
As someone who lives in Perth Western Australia, I did wonder if it over shot it could come down somewhere in Western Australia. I was also thinking, why not attempt to land one in the WA desert and film it. Btw I think the answer to why not somewhere else is that it's doing a suborbital flight without restarting it's engine. And off Western Australia happens to be where it comes down.
The first orbital launch from Australia was in 1971: the British rocket Black Arrow launched satellite Prospero to LEO from Woomera in South Australia. Starting in 1969 there were a total of 4 launches of Black Arrow from Woomera, the first 1968 demo flight failed, the March 1970 demo flight succeeded, the September 1970 flight with a satellite payload failed and the 1971 orbital flight succeeded. It wouldn't surprise me if Australia becomes a hot bed of commercial launch from multiple companies like Gilmour Space, Rocket Lab and SpaceX.
Another reason to put Starship Stage Zeroes in Australia: to fill up the orbital fuel station, Stage Zero will need LOTS of propellant in a short amount of time (eg. 15 launches within a day). Unless they mobilize all the tanker trucks in western USA for the job, they're going to run out of fuel. Launch facilities spread out throughout the world are going to be needed. Luckily, Australia has a lot of east coast.
Darwin in the Northern Territory has a LNG plant which probably could produce Liquid Methane & or there are plans to set-up an immense solar power farm there hint Carbon capture grants are available to produce Methane via subatia process
I saw a vid of news people with animals last night ! Guess who was the first new person on the video? Yep you ! You did a good job and your still doing it !
Oh my God, I'm so happy, it's going to be amazing to have a base in Australia, along with Norway, and Canada, it's the most beautiful place in the world, and what wonderful people.❤️👏👏👏💥🔥🚀🌬️🌊🗽
TH-camrs interviewing each other is not my prefered videos. Just to avoid misunderstandings, I love you both and see all your videos, but I prefer when you interview politicians and technical experts (in reverse priority :-))
Nice tie up. Worth noting ITAR doesn't mean "can't go overseas from the USA".. but it can mean hyper security only with very select partners. The AUKUS sub deal shows Australia (or elements of the Australian government) is a "select partner", I'm sure that helps with SpaceX, if nothing else a ton of protocols have already been agreed... Being a Brit, I'm just hoping one day we get to see Starships landing somewhere round the UK coastline!
@@gfopt scotland.. where we have a spaceport being developed ( it's currently intended for smaller/medium rockets, the location is useful for polar orbits)
Would love to see Space X collaborate Star Ship activities with Australia. It would be the beginning of a world wide endeavor of point to point landings. BTW, love the braids Ellie !
Love Marcus. I've been watching him for a long time. Would love to see you do live colab together. I know he would love to visit Starbase sometime. Nice interview BTW.
Ellie Marcus is right in terms of the type of rocket used to put a satellite in orbit in the 60’s but the organisation launching it was called ELDO - European Launch Development Organisation- a sort of predecessor to the present ESA. There was also a heavy emphasis on Britain’s involvement. So Australia, being part of the British Commonwealth, provided the launch base at Woomera (BTW a woomera is an Australian Aboriginal hand held device that could launch spears with much more power - so the rocket launching base was well named) I don’t know what happened to ELDO but France’s French Ghiana in Sth America geographically provided a more opportune position in terms of closeness to the equator for launches, which suited ESA and was much closer to Europe compared to Australia.
Australia has a proud history of being in the launch-support industry. Do not forget the Blue Streak/Europa launches in the 1970s from Woomera. And when developing a space telecommunications industry, it had a highly credible start with AUSSAT in the 1980s which was highly regarded for its professional approach. And then there was the seminal role played by Australia in the Apollo lunar missions. Not as shabby as Marcus was intoning!
2:00 I didn't realise Australia was close to the equator.. immediately googled it. But yes its much closer than any US launch site. Point to point starship from Texas to Australia makes a lot of sense for transporting goods and materials.
Marcus could have taken the opportunity to give companies like Equatorial Launch Australia a plug, but I'm splitting hairs. Always great stuff from him.
Ellie/Marcus You are right, Gilmour space are waiting on paperwork to launch at rocket here in Bowen Nth Qld. It has been ready since May this year, Gilmour space has built a launch site at Bowen.
Hey hey, it's Marcus House... But seriously, the US already has military support for rocketry and flight testing in the Woomera prohibited area in the middle of Australia. I work at a copper mine within the area and there are often military exercises carried out that close roads, and sometimes require all mining staff to leave the site for a period of time. Can't imagine it would be too hard to allow Space X to land some hardware offshore and tow it into port.
This is so much fun speculating on things that StarShip can do, and how it will do them! Elon has charged us up to think of the possibility in the future !
I'm just going to say this 1) Ellie is so cute and smart. makes me happy watching her new vlog posts.. 2) you learn a lot. 3) We are all space nerds.. :):):)
Cheers Ellie... ! Actually you did OK on the accent..! It is hard to replicate. Any spaceX article being recovered in Australia will be AWESOME...!! Hopefully it will happen..! BTW the "algorithm" must have unsubscribed me...
You are so beautiful and friendly Ellie, you bring super interesting interviews with such a cool vibe, I love it. Thank you very much, I loved it.❤️🌹🌿👏👏👏🌟💫🌬️🌊😉
Could the tower transports from the Cape to Boca Chica have been, among other things, concept testing for the long distance transport of Starship components? While I imagine that production ships could easily be delivered to Australia from orbit, the superheavy or superheavies won't have that capability. Also, what ship would you use for this given the superheavy's bulk? Something like the Pegasus barge, loaded onto a semi-submersible heavy lift ship for the occasion or maybe lease the ship used to transport Arianes to French Guiana (assuming Starship and superheavy fit)?
If they land on a ship, it will always be on a tower, for later launch near a city, for the purpose of rapid inter city transportation, far from the shore to conform with local regulations. The pax will probably be ferried using Voith Schneider propellers to preciselly maneuver to the ship even in windy conditions, tried and proven with the ferries on lago di Como in Italia. The same ferries can ship the methane, local ship air separation units will provide the LNO2 and Lox. This way with minimum added infrastructure a practical continent spanning point to point transportation can be organized.
Getting a couple countries or a trio working with space X, they have a wider window of entry and launch options. Also with international ops, Elon would have options should a government tries to dictate to the company. The time savings for point to point would be of limited use due to cost but might be a option with space tourism as a factor. The less than an hour around the world to be a selling point in general is yet far off as they would need a site for every airport and the Starships would need to be as common as a Boeing or Airbus jet.
Great Video ! Back in the last Century there was talk of a Space Port in the North East corner of the country in a wildlife park... Any progress on a space port ? tjl
Space shuttles take up space for runways spacex doesnt want to do that and plus this vehicle is for mars landings using a airplane design wont work in mars little to no atmosphere
Well done on the accent! 😂 It would be awesome if we had a catch tower in Australia and we could also launch. That might make sense for the most efficient utilization of Starship If we launched from here and landed in Texas.
I have to disagree with Marcus on the viability of Point2Point. Starship could easily hold 150 people and a sub-orbital flight uses far less fuel. A ticket price could be no more than a business class fare and be under an hour gate to gate. Catching the morning rocket could easily be a thing.
Loved it. Guess the Aussie thingy is inevitable for short flights half way round Earth. Hope I live long enough to see it. Not as important as 1st Mars landing though!
29 November 1967 Australia was the third nation ever to launch a satellite - Weapons Research Establishment (WRE), which managed the Woomera Range, and the University of Adelaide. WRESAT was launched from South Australian launch facility Woomera on 29 November 1967- the British government complained to Australian Prime minister at the time - Robert Menzies who then dismantled the rocket launch facility - USSR first launch then the USA then Australia
I think OZ needs to find its own path. NZ already has a viable option and is way smaller. Space exploration is a huge business opportunity ready to take off for the brave ones.
" Ozz tray lee aaa " Also, probs not landing in Oz, more likely they'll build a tower on Diego Garcia. For Marcus, towing it back is easy - Starship is sealed tanks, float it heat-sheild down, hook a couple of lines to the lift/catch mounts under the forward fins, then tow it with a Sea Cat, so the starship sits in the smooth water of the wake.
Diego Garcia. Tom Mueller had very bad things to say about the environment on Omelek. And that was when they were throwing away rockets. I think truly reusable rockets will need arid environments. The Australian Outback is the best place on the planet that isn’t politically impossible.
@@gfopt Sure, but,... Australian governments are staffed with morons for the last couple of decades, and Diego Garcia is a UK owned landmass covered with a US military base end to end. It's secure, closer to Middle East, Africa, India and China, and it's the same level regarding sea water as Boca Chica. It's also a similar distance from the Equator.
@@gfopt It's an Island in the middle of the Indian Ocean, a little over 7 degrees South of the Equator, so much closer to the Equator then Boca Chica or KSC are. The West end of the island would be ideal for a Space Force installation of a tower and tank farm. Starship flights three and four would have passed just south of it as Re-Entry began, and most of that should have been visible from the ground there. Frankly I expected an official video release from there, or from the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.
Will be great if Australia can play one small part in SpaceX's endeavours. Appreciate your Aussie accent attempt, Ellie, but it sounded like Cockney to me. The broadest Aussie version of how to say our country is "Straya".
Sandboxx News wrote an article about SpaceX new Starship contract with US Pentagon. Sandboxx also has a yt channel that did a video about SpaceX point to point military project.
I absolutely love the fact that all my favorite space channels get together on occasion and collaborate!
Yes! I’m glad we were able to coordinate between Texas and Australia
Darn timezones are always the tricky bit. 😆
I find youtubers interviewing each other boring.
@@aaaaa5272 Yeah they should do it in person, Ellie should have flown to Tassie for the interview....
I really hope this initial collaboration with Australia leads to the tantalising first steps towards point-to-point Starship flights in the future🤞
For point-to-point, you have to build two launch pads close to two large cities. That seems very difficult. If you’ve seen a Starship launch in person, you know how much clear space is needed. That is difficult to find close to large cities.
@@gfoptwouldn't a bus trip be nothing compared to a normal plane taking like 16 hours
Also an underground airport would seem appropriate
@@mattrawson1311 It would still be faster probably, but a few hours added to each end of the trip makes it less amazing.
Some cities might not even have a suitable launch site within a two or three hour bus ride. Hopefully some do.
Oil-rig launchpads. They’ll get there. All in good time.
its always a pleasure to see you interview Marcus
Remember when Australia sent us a $400 fine for littering when part of Skylab landed there on reentry?😮
We hate littering lol.
Still hasn't been paid..
Maybe paying the fine us part of the deal😂
that was 1979. 45 years ago
@@davidwilson448 Interest on it should just about pay for a Flame Trench.
So cool to see Marcus here, i am from Tasmania also, love the guy and the fact he's got us Australia wise.
Go Marcus, whooooo.
👋
great video. I have been lobbying the shadow science minister Paul Fletcher, for some time t advocate for the construction of a catch tower in Australia. Makes so much sense - for SpaceX, less concerns due to lighter shipping and air traffic, different orbital inclination, Australia stable politically, not far from equator etc., etc.
for Australia, will really boost local space industry, one of (if not the) the fastest growing industries.
Howard government wanted to have a spaceport in FNQ, environmental influences kyboshed it. NT would probably be wiser, or across south west of Broome. Tie it to where sea based shipping terminals are, and materials resources flow through, add in some Sun City & Tesla power generation and storage, and put a Steel Mill in the same area, then convince businesses to save money and oil costs by shipping proccessed high grade ingots to international customers instead of raw iron ore.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes I like your imagination, but it's not realistic. Australia has been progressively closing steelworks nationwide, with only 2 hot plants left, and this will not be reversed by either side of politics, at a state or federal level - you said environmental influences stopped a space port on Cape York, well, just try building a steelworks in the Kimberley....
There is zero practical incentive for any project in Australia to use Australian made steel. Australia imports about 4 times more in steel products (by dollar value) than it exports.
As for power generation, a blast furnace or rolling mill cannot stop and start based on the weather. Batteries and Solar will just not do it - not if you want the steel products to be affordable.
I'd love to see value adding and manufacturing return to Australia, but until enough of us can convince the governments to incentivise it, and while labour costs are so high, it'll never happen.
@@cerealport2726 Sadly, you're most likely correct on the polotics side.
Solar Thermal might be worth a read, where the Sun is used to heat a molten salt, and it's heat gets the steam going for turbines. Use a big enough thermal mass, keep the turbines spinning constantly.
Once there is the power generation, the financial models will change for the corporations - once it is cheaper for them to export value added product, the change would drive itself.
Elon wanting to assemble Starships with locally made Stainless Steel, rather then pay the shipping from the US, would certainly incentivise that.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Australia imports virtually all its stainless steel, except maybe for some niche companies. Besides...the Technology Safeguards Agreement (TSA) with the USA says that there is zero technology transfer with Australia. all rocket components and personnel are to be brought in from the USA, with everything done in isolation from Australians. It's possible this could change, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
This does not help Aussie industry at all. Helps the USA nicely though... and we can thank both Labor and Liberal federal governments for that disastrous decision that they both hailed as a triumph.
There hasn't been a financially successful molten salt solar plant anywhere they've been tried. At best, it'd be a government employment scheme that would only last until the next change in federal government.
It'd be really good if at some point we didn't need to burn fossil fuels for reliable electricity, but the reality is, that wont be viable unless we go nuclear and that has its own problems, and is even less likely to progress with the way things are.
There are so many optimistic Aussies with great ideas, and people with knowledge and skills, plus the desire to do things for Australia, in Australia, but it seems none of them can be found in any of our parliaments.
13th upvote. This intro is funny! Glad you’re getting significant traction Ellie! And Marcus I love your stuff too.
Yay! Thank you!
Cheers! ❤
Two of my three favorite Space News people in one video! Great information!! Thanks! (Felix at WAI is my other favorite by the way 🙂) Go Australia Space!!
Did you see Ellie’s interview with Felix?
Marcus-you’re forgetting Australia’s significant involvement in Apollo ground tracking stations. Dying for you to do a deep dive on that including the lost Apollo 11 landing tapes. It’s been done before but you seem to be able to always add something interesting.
Scot Manley has really good vid on this❤
My father was the station director at Woomera and developed Muchea in WA. After which we moved to the U.S. where he continued to manage tracking at Merritt Island in Florida.
Woomera was a fun place to live back then with Abbos and Roos wandering into town on occasion.
Oh yes, our comm tracking stuff is amazing. Just forgot to mention it.
@@chipsrafferty8362careful - the kangaroos might get offended 😊
And the UK black arrow rockets
No mention of the NZ space industry next door. They are building rockets in Auckland and launching them in NZ.
You get plenty bro, you have more than we do bro
Kiwis punch above their weight in everything...
Difference is, when you get some oddball eccentric who wants to do crazy shit, NZ cheers them on, Australia cuts them down, the whole 'tall poppy' thing, of bogan heads not wanting to see someone else do better then they can. That shit's gotta change.
Rocket Lab are amazing, but this video was talking specifically about the news around Australia being involved in Starship recovery.
Awesome interview with Marcus again. Whoa…you’re up to 123K subscribers already? Great! Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
As an Englishman living in Australia, I find it weird that there isnt a launch complex here. Cause there are low population areas, and plenty of ocean for failures.
In the past Woomera
Well done! I start my Saturday mornings watching Marcus!
Next one coming shortly. Big vid this week. Finalising the editing right now.
If you went to Australia for 1 month you would pick up the accent. When I was in western Australia in the 80's, my ship (US Navy west pact) spent 9 days there and everyone on the bridge spoke like an australian without even thinking about it.
It was hillarious!😄
Yanks might think that, you'd be wrong. Even Meryl Steep can't do the accent. To the locals you would have sounded like you were taking the piss.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Same reason I don't try an American accent. 🤣
@@MarcusHouse Ain't that the truth, Aussie actors doing yank accents, it's not good.
BTW, if you need a camo with streaming gear for a WA trip, I'm in Melbs. Was thinking about Cocos (Keeling) Islands, might be able to see re-entry over the Indian Ocean, share a feed back to Ellie, EDA, NSF and WAI. "Hey Hey, we here live watching for Re-Entry,..."
Roight mate‼️👍🏾😂
@@myownboss1 That would be Sydney accent.
How cool, my family lives in Queensland, in Brisbane, a beautiful and fantastic coastal city.👏👏❤️🌹🌿🌬️🌊
You are up there with Tony Bela (@InfographicTony).
It's a loooooong way from Brisbane to NQ, It's the best part of 13 hours from Brisbane to the planned launch site in Bowen, that's if you can drive 13 hrs non stop (I can't, I'd need at least a few stops)
Wow, the Opera House, it's so beautiful. I love this island country, it has such a lovely vibe. My family lives there, thanks. Congrats to SpaceX, this is going to be a great event. ❤️👏👏👏🌟💥🔥🚀💫🌹🌿
Ha ha, this island country is the size of the USA 😁
But it does have a great video 👌
Marcus Is fantastic Ellie, and as an Aussie, and a person who went to tassie for their honeymoon, Tasmania is a beautiful place to visit. Late September through to Christmas, around fruit and berry picking seasons, absolutely gorgeous. Couldn’t recommend the place and the people with anything other than 100% enthusiasm. You should go down there for a holiday some time!! Thanks to yourself and Marcus for a great segment. Greetings from the land down under!!
Yep. Best time is late spring / early Autumn in my opinion. When everything is nice and green. We have a beautiful state for sure.
We visited Tasmania for Christmas 2008 it was hot in Adelaide so I didn't pack a jacket, got one in Mole Creek.
@@scottbaker9066 Haha. I grew up very close to Mole Creek as it happens.
seems like perfect place to do a test point to point for space force, land in drink..then if spot on land out back on flip down legs..space force does want point to point abilities.
Ty Ellie
Space Force will want a tower on Diego Garcia.
Landing the starship in australia is a very good idea...Space X has just to add the small landing feet as for SN10
Love the accent! 🤣
Thanks for the chat Ellie.
I’m glad you could laugh at my terrible rendition
Thank you for giving us some of your time! You da man!
Future add, “We have a presale special of vacation tickets to SPACEPORT AUSTRALIA” To and from flights will be aboard the “STAR SHIP” from SPACEX.
It is a bit of a long flight so please be prepared to set aside an hour for the flight.
As someone who lives in Perth Western Australia, I did wonder if it over shot it could come down somewhere in Western Australia.
I was also thinking, why not attempt to land one in the WA desert and film it.
Btw I think the answer to why not somewhere else is that it's doing a suborbital flight without restarting it's engine. And off Western Australia happens to be where it comes down.
Western Australia has terrain like Mars anyway, so yeah, why not. Good practice.
Its so great to see you getting out there! Awesome!
The first orbital launch from Australia was in 1971: the British rocket Black Arrow launched satellite Prospero to LEO from Woomera in South Australia. Starting in 1969 there were a total of 4 launches of Black Arrow from Woomera, the first 1968 demo flight failed, the March 1970 demo flight succeeded, the September 1970 flight with a satellite payload failed and the 1971 orbital flight succeeded.
It wouldn't surprise me if Australia becomes a hot bed of commercial launch from multiple companies like Gilmour Space, Rocket Lab and SpaceX.
Nice reporting & Marcus is the best!
I love that part of the world I stayed in Auckland!! Loved it !!
The distance from the Starship splashdown to Auckland is about the same as the distance from Hawai'i to Greenland.
Blue streak was launched from Australia back in th day
Another reason to put Starship Stage Zeroes in Australia: to fill up the orbital fuel station, Stage Zero will need LOTS of propellant in a short amount of time (eg. 15 launches within a day). Unless they mobilize all the tanker trucks in western USA for the job, they're going to run out of fuel. Launch facilities spread out throughout the world are going to be needed. Luckily, Australia has a lot of east coast.
Darwin in the Northern Territory has a LNG plant which probably could produce Liquid Methane & or there are plans to set-up an immense solar power farm there hint Carbon capture grants are available to produce Methane via subatia process
4:35 You got to ride horses around starbase! Thats so cool🤩
Marcus house is great source ❤thanks for sharing ❤
Great video. It makes sense now.
I saw a vid of news people with animals last night ! Guess who was the first new person on the video? Yep you ! You did a good job and your still doing it !
lol must be the llama outtake :-)
Thank you so much
I’ve def evolved a lot over time
Especially in my space knowledge
STILL LEARNING
I'm in perth Western Australia so this is super exciting news!
Oh my God, I'm so happy, it's going to be amazing to have a base in Australia, along with Norway, and Canada, it's the most beautiful place in the world, and what wonderful people.❤️👏👏👏💥🔥🚀🌬️🌊🗽
TH-camrs interviewing each other is not my prefered videos.
Just to avoid misunderstandings, I love you both and see all your videos, but I prefer when you interview politicians and technical experts (in reverse priority :-))
Nice tie up. Worth noting ITAR doesn't mean "can't go overseas from the USA".. but it can mean hyper security only with very select partners. The AUKUS sub deal shows Australia (or elements of the Australian government) is a "select partner", I'm sure that helps with SpaceX, if nothing else a ton of protocols have already been agreed... Being a Brit, I'm just hoping one day we get to see Starships landing somewhere round the UK coastline!
Large areas with no people? In UK??
@@gfopt scotland.. where we have a spaceport being developed ( it's currently intended for smaller/medium rockets, the location is useful for polar orbits)
Would love to see Space X collaborate Star Ship activities with Australia. It would be the beginning of a world wide endeavor of point to point landings. BTW, love the braids Ellie !
Love Marcus. I've been watching him for a long time. Would love to see you do live colab together. I know he would love to visit Starbase sometime. Nice interview BTW.
Ellie Marcus is right in terms of the type of rocket used to put a satellite in orbit in the 60’s but the organisation launching it was called ELDO - European Launch Development Organisation- a sort of predecessor to the present ESA. There was also a heavy emphasis on Britain’s involvement. So Australia, being part of the British Commonwealth, provided the launch base at Woomera (BTW a woomera is an Australian Aboriginal hand held device that could launch spears with much more power - so the rocket launching base was well named) I don’t know what happened to ELDO but France’s French Ghiana in Sth America geographically provided a more opportune position in terms of closeness to the equator for launches, which suited ESA and was much closer to Europe compared to Australia.
Australia has a proud history of being in the launch-support industry. Do not forget the Blue Streak/Europa launches in the 1970s from Woomera. And when developing a space telecommunications industry, it had a highly credible start with AUSSAT in the 1980s which was highly regarded for its professional approach. And then there was the seminal role played by Australia in the Apollo lunar missions. Not as shabby as Marcus was intoning!
2:00 I didn't realise Australia was close to the equator.. immediately googled it. But yes its much closer than any US launch site. Point to point starship from Texas to Australia makes a lot of sense for transporting goods and materials.
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So. For testing, the Starship's payload could be it's own inflatable life raft, making it easier to recover?
Brilliant idea! An original Roadster could be the cherry for the sundae.
And an outboard motor
Thank you, Ellie!
Marcus could have taken the opportunity to give companies like Equatorial Launch Australia a plug, but I'm splitting hairs. Always great stuff from him.
Ellie/Marcus You are right, Gilmour space are waiting on paperwork to launch at rocket here in Bowen Nth Qld. It has been ready since May this year, Gilmour space has built a launch site at Bowen.
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But seriously, the US already has military support for rocketry and flight testing in the Woomera prohibited area in the middle of Australia.
I work at a copper mine within the area and there are often military exercises carried out that close roads, and sometimes require all mining staff to leave the site for a period of time.
Can't imagine it would be too hard to allow Space X to land some hardware offshore and tow it into port.
I like to see the decommissioned Sydney Tangara trains have the stainless steel exterior recycled into Starships.
They should build one in outback Australia in secret. Launch and then recover it in boca chica. It would surprise everyone
Landing permits with the FAA would let the cat out of the bag.
This is so much fun speculating on things that StarShip can do, and how it will do them! Elon has charged us up to think of the possibility in the future !
Hopefully a similar collab between US and UK is also possible...
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Cheers Ellie... ! Actually you did OK on the accent..! It is hard to replicate. Any spaceX article being recovered in Australia will be AWESOME...!! Hopefully it will happen..! BTW the "algorithm" must have unsubscribed me...
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North Western Australia has lots of LNG as well for starship fuel..Put it down on land
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They should build a facility in Australia. Plenty of space
Would love to see Starship in Australia!!!
It'd have to be able to land upside down though right? 😛
Why not land it with mini legs like SN15 on a huge concrete surface in the aussi dessert?
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UK launched an orbital rocket 🚀 from the Woomera test range in 1969.
Apart from that omission, good interview Ellie and Marcus.
Elli your make up / braids is a great look.
Imagine in the future another starbase located in Australia. You could travel Us to Oz in under an hour!
Crossover are cool ! Please Ellie can you do the same with Angry 🙏
Could the tower transports from the Cape to Boca Chica have been, among other things, concept testing for the long distance transport of Starship components? While I imagine that production ships could easily be delivered to Australia from orbit, the superheavy or superheavies won't have that capability. Also, what ship would you use for this given the superheavy's bulk? Something like the Pegasus barge, loaded onto a semi-submersible heavy lift ship for the occasion or maybe lease the ship used to transport Arianes to French Guiana (assuming Starship and superheavy fit)?
If they land on a ship, it will always be on a tower, for later launch near a city, for the purpose of rapid inter city transportation, far from the shore to conform with local
regulations. The pax will probably be ferried using Voith Schneider propellers to preciselly maneuver to the ship even in windy conditions, tried and proven with the ferries on lago di Como in Italia.
The same ferries
can ship the methane, local ship air separation units will provide the LNO2 and Lox.
This way with minimum added infrastructure a practical continent spanning point to point transportation can be organized.
After flight 4 landed off the coast of Australia there was a private jet circling over the ocean off western Australia This was like 11pm local time
Getting a couple countries or a trio working with space X, they have a wider window of entry and launch options. Also with international ops, Elon would have options should a government tries to dictate to the company. The time savings for point to point would be of limited use due to cost but might be a option with space tourism as a factor. The less than an hour around the world to be a selling point in general is yet far off as they would need a site for every airport and the Starships would need to be as common as a Boeing or Airbus jet.
Thanks Ellie, even if your Aussie accent hurt my ears 🤣
It just makes sense to launch from down under, they can just fall into space!
OMG. I'm in Perth western Australia. I'll be your Boots on the ground here.
Great Video ! Back in the last Century there was talk of a Space Port in the North East corner of the country in a wildlife park... Any progress on a space port ? tjl
I don't understand why Elon doesn't just mount a space shuttle influenced starship on top of the booster and land it like a plane.
Space shuttles take up space for runways spacex doesnt want to do that and plus this vehicle is for mars landings using a airplane design wont work in mars little to no atmosphere
Well done on the accent! 😂
It would be awesome if we had a catch tower in Australia and we could also launch.
That might make sense for the most efficient utilization of Starship
If we launched from here and landed in Texas.
I have to disagree with Marcus on the viability of Point2Point. Starship could easily hold 150 people and a sub-orbital flight uses far less fuel. A ticket price could be no more than a business class fare and be under an hour gate to gate. Catching the morning rocket could easily be a thing.
Loved it. Guess the Aussie thingy is inevitable for short flights half way round Earth. Hope I live long enough to see it. Not as important as 1st Mars landing though!
I'm a kill Tony Redman freak from Australia, I love your work and you xo
29 November 1967 Australia was the third nation ever to launch a satellite - Weapons Research Establishment (WRE), which managed the Woomera Range, and the University of Adelaide. WRESAT was launched from South Australian launch facility Woomera on 29 November 1967- the British government complained to Australian Prime minister at the time - Robert Menzies who then dismantled the rocket launch facility - USSR first launch then the USA then Australia
Elon just heard about the beaches of Western Australia and was looking for any excuse to visit them on the regular..... ; )
I think OZ needs to find its own path. NZ already has a viable option and is way smaller. Space exploration is a huge business opportunity ready to take off for the brave ones.
North Australia is not near the equator. I just looked on google earth. The Philippines are.
Woomera the launch site of choice
Too far south. Too far from a port.
How about near RAF Base Scherger?
Ellie .... Bad Aussie voice.
I've always understood that the Australian accent is known as Strine.
" Ozz tray lee aaa "
Also, probs not landing in Oz, more likely they'll build a tower on Diego Garcia. For Marcus, towing it back is easy - Starship is sealed tanks, float it heat-sheild down, hook a couple of lines to the lift/catch mounts under the forward fins, then tow it with a Sea Cat, so the starship sits in the smooth water of the wake.
Diego Garcia. Tom Mueller had very bad things to say about the environment on Omelek. And that was when they were throwing away rockets. I think truly reusable rockets will need arid environments. The Australian Outback is the best place on the planet that isn’t politically impossible.
@@gfopt Sure, but,... Australian governments are staffed with morons for the last couple of decades, and Diego Garcia is a UK owned landmass covered with a US military base end to end. It's secure, closer to Middle East, Africa, India and China, and it's the same level regarding sea water as Boca Chica. It's also a similar distance from the Equator.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Launch towers require miles of empty space around them. Is there that much free space on Diego Garcia?
@@gfopt It's an Island in the middle of the Indian Ocean, a little over 7 degrees South of the Equator, so much closer to the Equator then Boca Chica or KSC are. The West end of the island would be ideal for a Space Force installation of a tower and tank farm.
Starship flights three and four would have passed just south of it as Re-Entry began, and most of that should have been visible from the ground there. Frankly I expected an official video release from there, or from the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.
that's huge
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Highly doubt a wet landed ship would be reflown, trapped water inside the heat tiles turning to steam will destroy them.
Will be great if Australia can play one small part in SpaceX's endeavours. Appreciate your Aussie accent attempt, Ellie, but it sounded like Cockney to me. The broadest Aussie version of how to say our country is "Straya".
Hopefully we see some rockets down under soon. New Zealand has Rocket Lab, we can't let them have all the fun 😅
Australia did catch Skylab for NASA. 🤣
Sandboxx News wrote an article about SpaceX new Starship contract with US Pentagon. Sandboxx also has a yt channel that did a video about SpaceX point to point military project.
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Had not heard about Space X and Australia. It makes sense as an additional launch venue.
WOW not heard of SpaceX , been a massive thing for years. Glad your finally here
@@rjswas I’m more surprised they also hadn’t ever heard of Australia!
I've been in Australia for nearly 20 years and still can't do the Aussie accent. 😂
Oh no Ellie forgot the sun tan lotion again?
Yes, I bought a giant hat the next day, I've been staying inside. Yikes, it was 60 and overcast but I got incredibly burned, My poor nose
@@ellieinspace So sorry sweety I have same problem.
@@ellieinspace As a Tasmanian, you don't need any of it.