For point-to-point, you have to build two launch pads close to two large cities. That seems very difficult. If you’ve seen a Starship launch in person, you know how much clear space is needed. That is difficult to find close to large cities.
@@mattrawson1311 It would still be faster probably, but a few hours added to each end of the trip makes it less amazing. Some cities might not even have a suitable launch site within a two or three hour bus ride. Hopefully some do.
Difference is, when you get some oddball eccentric who wants to do crazy shit, NZ cheers them on, Australia cuts them down, the whole 'tall poppy' thing, of bogan heads not wanting to see someone else do better then they can. That shit's gotta change.
No orbital launches from Aus? Marcus, have you forgotten about Woomera and the strangled-at-birth UK space industry? Don't get me started on contemptible civil servants and politicos who think a degree in "classics" or "greats" (WTF are "greats") are of more value than a degree in science or engineering, looking at *you* Greasy-Smog.
Marcus-you’re forgetting Australia’s significant involvement in Apollo ground tracking stations. Dying for you to do a deep dive on that including the lost Apollo 11 landing tapes. It’s been done before but you seem to be able to always add something interesting.
My father was the station director at Woomera and developed Muchea in WA. After which we moved to the U.S. where he continued to manage tracking at Merritt Island in Florida. Woomera was a fun place to live back then with Abbos and Roos wandering into town on occasion.
great video. I have been lobbying the shadow science minister Paul Fletcher, for some time t advocate for the construction of a catch tower in Australia. Makes so much sense - for SpaceX, less concerns due to lighter shipping and air traffic, different orbital inclination, Australia stable politically, not far from equator etc., etc. for Australia, will really boost local space industry, one of (if not the) the fastest growing industries.
Howard government wanted to have a spaceport in FNQ, environmental influences kyboshed it. NT would probably be wiser, or across south west of Broome. Tie it to where sea based shipping terminals are, and materials resources flow through, add in some Sun City & Tesla power generation and storage, and put a Steel Mill in the same area, then convince businesses to save money and oil costs by shipping proccessed high grade ingots to international customers instead of raw iron ore.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes I like your imagination, but it's not realistic. Australia has been progressively closing steelworks nationwide, with only 2 hot plants left, and this will not be reversed by either side of politics, at a state or federal level - you said environmental influences stopped a space port on Cape York, well, just try building a steelworks in the Kimberley.... There is zero practical incentive for any project in Australia to use Australian made steel. Australia imports about 4 times more in steel products (by dollar value) than it exports. As for power generation, a blast furnace or rolling mill cannot stop and start based on the weather. Batteries and Solar will just not do it - not if you want the steel products to be affordable. I'd love to see value adding and manufacturing return to Australia, but until enough of us can convince the governments to incentivise it, and while labour costs are so high, it'll never happen.
@@cerealport2726 Sadly, you're most likely correct on the polotics side. Solar Thermal might be worth a read, where the Sun is used to heat a molten salt, and it's heat gets the steam going for turbines. Use a big enough thermal mass, keep the turbines spinning constantly. Once there is the power generation, the financial models will change for the corporations - once it is cheaper for them to export value added product, the change would drive itself. Elon wanting to assemble Starships with locally made Stainless Steel, rather then pay the shipping from the US, would certainly incentivise that.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Australia imports virtually all its stainless steel, except maybe for some niche companies. Besides...the Technology Safeguards Agreement (TSA) with the USA says that there is zero technology transfer with Australia. all rocket components and personnel are to be brought in from the USA, with everything done in isolation from Australians. It's possible this could change, but I wouldn't hold my breath. This does not help Aussie industry at all. Helps the USA nicely though... and we can thank both Labor and Liberal federal governments for that disastrous decision that they both hailed as a triumph. There hasn't been a financially successful molten salt solar plant anywhere they've been tried. At best, it'd be a government employment scheme that would only last until the next change in federal government. It'd be really good if at some point we didn't need to burn fossil fuels for reliable electricity, but the reality is, that wont be viable unless we go nuclear and that has its own problems, and is even less likely to progress with the way things are. There are so many optimistic Aussies with great ideas, and people with knowledge and skills, plus the desire to do things for Australia, in Australia, but it seems none of them can be found in any of our parliaments.
As an Englishman living in Australia, I find it weird that there isnt a launch complex here. Cause there are low population areas, and plenty of ocean for failures.
If you went to Australia for 1 month you would pick up the accent. When I was in western Australia in the 80's, my ship (US Navy west pact) spent 9 days there and everyone on the bridge spoke like an australian without even thinking about it. It was hillarious!😄
@@MarcusHouse Ain't that the truth, Aussie actors doing yank accents, it's not good. BTW, if you need a camo with streaming gear for a WA trip, I'm in Melbs. Was thinking about Cocos (Keeling) Islands, might be able to see re-entry over the Indian Ocean, share a feed back to Ellie, EDA, NSF and WAI. "Hey Hey, we here live watching for Re-Entry,..."
Wow, the Opera House, it's so beautiful. I love this island country, it has such a lovely vibe. My family lives there, thanks. Congrats to SpaceX, this is going to be a great event. ❤️👏👏👏🌟💥🔥🚀💫🌹🌿
You are so beautiful and friendly Ellie, you bring super interesting interviews with such a cool vibe, I love it. Thank you very much, I loved it.❤️🌹🌿👏👏👏🌟💫🌬️🌊😉
It's a loooooong way from Brisbane to NQ, It's the best part of 13 hours from Brisbane to the planned launch site in Bowen, that's if you can drive 13 hrs non stop (I can't, I'd need at least a few stops)
All this talk and maneuvering around landing the starship is getting away from the rapid reusability of the rockets. Building a landing site around Starbase makes more sense economically. After all Elon's idea of having reusable rockets and quickly launching them from StarBase can only be done if a landing zone is nearby.
Oh c'mon, Ellie. That was a satellite view of New Guinea, not Australia. Then, you show footage of the Booster, not the , discussing the landing of Starship in Australia. You can do better.
TH-camrs interviewing each other is not my prefered videos. Just to avoid misunderstandings, I love you both and see all your videos, but I prefer when you interview politicians and technical experts (in reverse priority :-))
Two of my three favorite Space News people in one video! Great information!! Thanks! (Felix at WAI is my other favorite by the way 🙂) Go Australia Space!!
As someone who lives in Perth Western Australia, I did wonder if it over shot it could come down somewhere in Western Australia. I was also thinking, why not attempt to land one in the WA desert and film it. Btw I think the answer to why not somewhere else is that it's doing a suborbital flight without restarting it's engine. And off Western Australia happens to be where it comes down.
Oh my God, I'm so happy, it's going to be amazing to have a base in Australia, along with Norway, and Canada, it's the most beautiful place in the world, and what wonderful people.❤️👏👏👏💥🔥🚀🌬️🌊🗽
Space shuttles take up space for runways spacex doesnt want to do that and plus this vehicle is for mars landings using a airplane design wont work in mars little to no atmosphere
Getting a couple countries or a trio working with space X, they have a wider window of entry and launch options. Also with international ops, Elon would have options should a government tries to dictate to the company. The time savings for point to point would be of limited use due to cost but might be a option with space tourism as a factor. The less than an hour around the world to be a selling point in general is yet far off as they would need a site for every airport and the Starships would need to be as common as a Boeing or Airbus jet.
2:00 I didn't realise Australia was close to the equator.. immediately googled it. But yes its much closer than any US launch site. Point to point starship from Texas to Australia makes a lot of sense for transporting goods and materials.
Another reason to put Starship Stage Zeroes in Australia: to fill up the orbital fuel station, Stage Zero will need LOTS of propellant in a short amount of time (eg. 15 launches within a day). Unless they mobilize all the tanker trucks in western USA for the job, they're going to run out of fuel. Launch facilities spread out throughout the world are going to be needed. Luckily, Australia has a lot of east coast.
Darwin in the Northern Territory has a LNG plant which probably could produce Liquid Methane & or there are plans to set-up an immense solar power farm there hint Carbon capture grants are available to produce Methane via subatia process
seems like perfect place to do a test point to point for space force, land in drink..then if spot on land out back on flip down legs..space force does want point to point abilities. Ty Ellie
Cheers Ellie... ! Actually you did OK on the accent..! It is hard to replicate. Any spaceX article being recovered in Australia will be AWESOME...!! Hopefully it will happen..! BTW the "algorithm" must have unsubscribed me...
29 November 1967 Australia was the third nation ever to launch a satellite - Weapons Research Establishment (WRE), which managed the Woomera Range, and the University of Adelaide. WRESAT was launched from South Australian launch facility Woomera on 29 November 1967- the British government complained to Australian Prime minister at the time - Robert Menzies who then dismantled the rocket launch facility - USSR first launch then the USA then Australia
The first orbital launch from Australia was in 1971: the British rocket Black Arrow launched satellite Prospero to LEO from Woomera in South Australia. Starting in 1969 there were a total of 4 launches of Black Arrow from Woomera, the first 1968 demo flight failed, the March 1970 demo flight succeeded, the September 1970 flight with a satellite payload failed and the 1971 orbital flight succeeded. It wouldn't surprise me if Australia becomes a hot bed of commercial launch from multiple companies like Gilmour Space, Rocket Lab and SpaceX.
I saw a vid of news people with animals last night ! Guess who was the first new person on the video? Yep you ! You did a good job and your still doing it !
Land in Australia, refuel the birds, be prepared for minor repairs, launch the birds. Military, Commercial Cargo, VIP Travel applications initially. Commercial Passenger Service piggy backs on cargo when cost per passenger pound reaches $25.00
If australia, wants to have an orbital rocket?? Why don't they copy SpaceX like Japan is doing?? Honistly, space X wants to have a relationship. Make it contingent to have ausie engineer's come to boca and learn from, the best, in my opinion? That way the ausdie government can compeet agenst Japan, ESA, CSA, and whoever is shipping rockets to French Guiana! An AUS, USA, collaborative would put the rest of the space race, far behind. Not to destroy relatins with those countries, i see benifits, uch as racist tension. Possably eliminate it, for the Human race.
That's not a rocket, thiissss... is a rocket! (Paul Hogan voice, pulling out a Starship 🙂) On a side note, the British launched a satellite from Australia, once (1971), and then the British space launch effort was cancelled (actually it had already been cancelled by the time of the successful launch). Black Arrow was the rocket, about the size of the Electron rocket.
As an Australian I'll ask what is really on our minds in regard to this subject. Are we going to be able to order pizza from the U.S .Will Elon get a New Yorker to Australia ????? This could be monumental for hemispherical relations. Pizza for Peace I say.
Marcus could have taken the opportunity to give companies like Equatorial Launch Australia a plug, but I'm splitting hairs. Always great stuff from him.
Could the tower transports from the Cape to Boca Chica have been, among other things, concept testing for the long distance transport of Starship components? While I imagine that production ships could easily be delivered to Australia from orbit, the superheavy or superheavies won't have that capability. Also, what ship would you use for this given the superheavy's bulk? Something like the Pegasus barge, loaded onto a semi-submersible heavy lift ship for the occasion or maybe lease the ship used to transport Arianes to French Guiana (assuming Starship and superheavy fit)?
After watching this video I realise that Marcus House knows little or nothing about Australia's involvement in space flights and technology. In fact some of his comments belittled our more than 60 years of significant Aerospace achievements. To suggest that P2P transport will only be useful for military transport purposes shows a rather shallow and shortsighted point of view. And having no idea where the Starship came down in the Indian Ocean left me rather disappointed with his knowledge. A bit of a shame really, as this was my first Ellie video and the first time seeing Marcus. And he has over half a million subscribers...
Hey hey, it's Marcus House... But seriously, the US already has military support for rocketry and flight testing in the Woomera prohibited area in the middle of Australia. I work at a copper mine within the area and there are often military exercises carried out that close roads, and sometimes require all mining staff to leave the site for a period of time. Can't imagine it would be too hard to allow Space X to land some hardware offshore and tow it into port.
Would love to see Space X collaborate Star Ship activities with Australia. It would be the beginning of a world wide endeavor of point to point landings. BTW, love the braids Ellie !
Hey there Ellie. Good to see you establishing yourself as a serious space industry reporter, it's great to see a new entry into that space (lol). Yes, I still like your cleavage and your pretty face, but I truly do now watch your work & appreciate your contribution to informing us about important advances in space technology & particularly SpaceX. Mitch, Australia x
Will be great if Australia can play one small part in SpaceX's endeavours. Appreciate your Aussie accent attempt, Ellie, but it sounded like Cockney to me. The broadest Aussie version of how to say our country is "Straya".
With the Australian and US technology transfer occurring with future nuclear submarines being sold to Australia, the possibility of more rocket technology transfers just makes sense. The ITAR restrictions make sense in general, but the issues can obviously be overcome - see the launching of US tech rockets from New Zealand as an example. The English speaking parts of the world need to unite to compete in the future against China, India and potentially others in the future. I say compete in the most open sense of the word. Not military but commerce. Mars will require this type of effort. No reason that English cannot be the first language spoken there other than our collective will to make it happen. No reason that any nation should be frozen out of deep space. There should no barrier to India. They obviously have the desire and can contribute to the effort. No single nation state should control Mars and beyond.
I have to disagree with Marcus on the viability of Point2Point. Starship could easily hold 150 people and a sub-orbital flight uses far less fuel. A ticket price could be no more than a business class fare and be under an hour gate to gate. Catching the morning rocket could easily be a thing.
Ellie/Marcus You are right, Gilmour space are waiting on paperwork to launch at rocket here in Bowen Nth Qld. It has been ready since May this year, Gilmour space has built a launch site at Bowen.
Love Marcus. I've been watching him for a long time. Would love to see you do live colab together. I know he would love to visit Starbase sometime. Nice interview BTW.
If they land on a ship, it will always be on a tower, for later launch near a city, for the purpose of rapid inter city transportation, far from the shore to conform with local regulations. The pax will probably be ferried using Voith Schneider propellers to preciselly maneuver to the ship even in windy conditions, tried and proven with the ferries on lago di Como in Italia. The same ferries can ship the methane, local ship air separation units will provide the LNO2 and Lox. This way with minimum added infrastructure a practical continent spanning point to point transportation can be organized.
Well done on the accent! 😂 It would be awesome if we had a catch tower in Australia and we could also launch. That might make sense for the most efficient utilization of Starship If we launched from here and landed in Texas.
Loved it. Guess the Aussie thingy is inevitable for short flights half way round Earth. Hope I live long enough to see it. Not as important as 1st Mars landing though!
Elon made a huge mistake not starting a massive unmanned cargo airship company decades ago. I think he could've nailed it down good enough, because i know Sergey Brin also entertains himself with such activities but to no practical results, so i have zero hope in Brin and his airship. I understand that Elon already had a lot on his plate, but still could've given it a shot.
The Australian Government has always been more about obstructing progress for Australia even while making noises of being for progress in almost any field of business..... Unless of course the Government is given mountains of money yet even then they demand massive fees for doing bugger all.
I think OZ needs to find its own path. NZ already has a viable option and is way smaller. Space exploration is a huge business opportunity ready to take off for the brave ones.
Great Video ! Back in the last Century there was talk of a Space Port in the North East corner of the country in a wildlife park... Any progress on a space port ? tjl
Its a ship why couldn't it be fitted with inflatable bladders that can be filled with oxygen after it lands in the ocean, during testing stages, for a landing that the ship stays in one peace and sinks assumedly. Once its floated barges could drag it back into port. Probably easier said then done.
Starship is transported this way becuase they are saving money by not making the structure of the ship to lay sideways. The ship spends all its time pointing up.
Marcus Is fantastic Ellie, and as an Aussie, and a person who went to tassie for their honeymoon, Tasmania is a beautiful place to visit. Late September through to Christmas, around fruit and berry picking seasons, absolutely gorgeous. Couldn’t recommend the place and the people with anything other than 100% enthusiasm. You should go down there for a holiday some time!! Thanks to yourself and Marcus for a great segment. Greetings from the land down under!!
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I really hope this initial collaboration with Australia leads to the tantalising first steps towards point-to-point Starship flights in the future🤞
For point-to-point, you have to build two launch pads close to two large cities. That seems very difficult. If you’ve seen a Starship launch in person, you know how much clear space is needed. That is difficult to find close to large cities.
@@gfoptwouldn't a bus trip be nothing compared to a normal plane taking like 16 hours
Also an underground airport would seem appropriate
@@mattrawson1311 It would still be faster probably, but a few hours added to each end of the trip makes it less amazing.
Some cities might not even have a suitable launch site within a two or three hour bus ride. Hopefully some do.
Oil-rig launchpads. They’ll get there. All in good time.
Remember when Australia sent us a $400 fine for littering when part of Skylab landed there on reentry?😮
We hate littering lol.
Still hasn't been paid..
Maybe paying the fine us part of the deal😂
that was 1979. 45 years ago
@@davidwilson448 Interest on it should just about pay for a Flame Trench.
its always a pleasure to see you interview Marcus
I absolutely love the fact that all my favorite space channels get together on occasion and collaborate!
Yes! I’m glad we were able to coordinate between Texas and Australia
Darn timezones are always the tricky bit. 😆
I find youtubers interviewing each other boring.
@@aaaaa5272 Yeah they should do it in person, Ellie should have flown to Tassie for the interview....
No mention of the NZ space industry next door. They are building rockets in Auckland and launching them in NZ.
You get plenty bro, you have more than we do bro
Kiwis punch above their weight in everything...
Difference is, when you get some oddball eccentric who wants to do crazy shit, NZ cheers them on, Australia cuts them down, the whole 'tall poppy' thing, of bogan heads not wanting to see someone else do better then they can. That shit's gotta change.
Rocket Lab are amazing, but this video was talking specifically about the news around Australia being involved in Starship recovery.
No orbital launches from Aus? Marcus, have you forgotten about Woomera and the strangled-at-birth UK space industry? Don't get me started on contemptible civil servants and politicos who think a degree in "classics" or "greats" (WTF are "greats") are of more value than a degree in science or engineering, looking at *you* Greasy-Smog.
13th upvote. This intro is funny! Glad you’re getting significant traction Ellie! And Marcus I love your stuff too.
Yay! Thank you!
Cheers! ❤
Marcus-you’re forgetting Australia’s significant involvement in Apollo ground tracking stations. Dying for you to do a deep dive on that including the lost Apollo 11 landing tapes. It’s been done before but you seem to be able to always add something interesting.
Scot Manley has really good vid on this❤
My father was the station director at Woomera and developed Muchea in WA. After which we moved to the U.S. where he continued to manage tracking at Merritt Island in Florida.
Woomera was a fun place to live back then with Abbos and Roos wandering into town on occasion.
Oh yes, our comm tracking stuff is amazing. Just forgot to mention it.
@@chipsrafferty8362careful - the kangaroos might get offended 😊
And the UK black arrow rockets
great video. I have been lobbying the shadow science minister Paul Fletcher, for some time t advocate for the construction of a catch tower in Australia. Makes so much sense - for SpaceX, less concerns due to lighter shipping and air traffic, different orbital inclination, Australia stable politically, not far from equator etc., etc.
for Australia, will really boost local space industry, one of (if not the) the fastest growing industries.
Howard government wanted to have a spaceport in FNQ, environmental influences kyboshed it. NT would probably be wiser, or across south west of Broome. Tie it to where sea based shipping terminals are, and materials resources flow through, add in some Sun City & Tesla power generation and storage, and put a Steel Mill in the same area, then convince businesses to save money and oil costs by shipping proccessed high grade ingots to international customers instead of raw iron ore.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes I like your imagination, but it's not realistic. Australia has been progressively closing steelworks nationwide, with only 2 hot plants left, and this will not be reversed by either side of politics, at a state or federal level - you said environmental influences stopped a space port on Cape York, well, just try building a steelworks in the Kimberley....
There is zero practical incentive for any project in Australia to use Australian made steel. Australia imports about 4 times more in steel products (by dollar value) than it exports.
As for power generation, a blast furnace or rolling mill cannot stop and start based on the weather. Batteries and Solar will just not do it - not if you want the steel products to be affordable.
I'd love to see value adding and manufacturing return to Australia, but until enough of us can convince the governments to incentivise it, and while labour costs are so high, it'll never happen.
@@cerealport2726 Sadly, you're most likely correct on the polotics side.
Solar Thermal might be worth a read, where the Sun is used to heat a molten salt, and it's heat gets the steam going for turbines. Use a big enough thermal mass, keep the turbines spinning constantly.
Once there is the power generation, the financial models will change for the corporations - once it is cheaper for them to export value added product, the change would drive itself.
Elon wanting to assemble Starships with locally made Stainless Steel, rather then pay the shipping from the US, would certainly incentivise that.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Australia imports virtually all its stainless steel, except maybe for some niche companies. Besides...the Technology Safeguards Agreement (TSA) with the USA says that there is zero technology transfer with Australia. all rocket components and personnel are to be brought in from the USA, with everything done in isolation from Australians. It's possible this could change, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
This does not help Aussie industry at all. Helps the USA nicely though... and we can thank both Labor and Liberal federal governments for that disastrous decision that they both hailed as a triumph.
There hasn't been a financially successful molten salt solar plant anywhere they've been tried. At best, it'd be a government employment scheme that would only last until the next change in federal government.
It'd be really good if at some point we didn't need to burn fossil fuels for reliable electricity, but the reality is, that wont be viable unless we go nuclear and that has its own problems, and is even less likely to progress with the way things are.
There are so many optimistic Aussies with great ideas, and people with knowledge and skills, plus the desire to do things for Australia, in Australia, but it seems none of them can be found in any of our parliaments.
Ellie .... Bad Aussie voice.
I've always understood that the Australian accent is known as Strine.
As an Englishman living in Australia, I find it weird that there isnt a launch complex here. Cause there are low population areas, and plenty of ocean for failures.
In the past Woomera
If you went to Australia for 1 month you would pick up the accent. When I was in western Australia in the 80's, my ship (US Navy west pact) spent 9 days there and everyone on the bridge spoke like an australian without even thinking about it.
It was hillarious!😄
Yanks might think that, you'd be wrong. Even Meryl Steep can't do the accent. To the locals you would have sounded like you were taking the piss.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Same reason I don't try an American accent. 🤣
@@MarcusHouse Ain't that the truth, Aussie actors doing yank accents, it's not good.
BTW, if you need a camo with streaming gear for a WA trip, I'm in Melbs. Was thinking about Cocos (Keeling) Islands, might be able to see re-entry over the Indian Ocean, share a feed back to Ellie, EDA, NSF and WAI. "Hey Hey, we here live watching for Re-Entry,..."
Roight mate‼️👍🏾😂
@@myownboss1 That would be Sydney accent.
Accent fail, very cute though...
With all respect Ellie, that was the most butchered attempt at an Ozzy Accent I have ever heard! Please don't do that again 😂
Wow, the Opera House, it's so beautiful. I love this island country, it has such a lovely vibe. My family lives there, thanks. Congrats to SpaceX, this is going to be a great event. ❤️👏👏👏🌟💥🔥🚀💫🌹🌿
Ha ha, this island country is the size of the USA 😁
But it does have a great video 👌
So cool to see Marcus here, i am from Tasmania also, love the guy and the fact he's got us Australia wise.
Go Marcus, whooooo.
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Oh no Ellie forgot the sun tan lotion again?
Yes, I bought a giant hat the next day, I've been staying inside. Yikes, it was 60 and overcast but I got incredibly burned, My poor nose
@@ellieinspace So sorry sweety I have same problem.
@@ellieinspace As a Tasmanian, you don't need any of it.
You are so beautiful and friendly Ellie, you bring super interesting interviews with such a cool vibe, I love it. Thank you very much, I loved it.❤️🌹🌿👏👏👏🌟💫🌬️🌊😉
Thank you so much! That’s very kind of you
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How cool, my family lives in Queensland, in Brisbane, a beautiful and fantastic coastal city.👏👏❤️🌹🌿🌬️🌊
You are up there with Tony Bela (@InfographicTony).
It's a loooooong way from Brisbane to NQ, It's the best part of 13 hours from Brisbane to the planned launch site in Bowen, that's if you can drive 13 hrs non stop (I can't, I'd need at least a few stops)
All this talk and maneuvering around landing the starship is getting away from the rapid reusability of the rockets. Building a landing site around Starbase makes more sense economically. After all Elon's idea of having reusable rockets and quickly launching them from StarBase can only be done if a landing zone is nearby.
Blue streak was launched from Australia back in th day
Love the accent! 🤣
Thanks for the chat Ellie.
I’m glad you could laugh at my terrible rendition
Thank you for giving us some of your time! You da man!
Oh c'mon, Ellie. That was a satellite view of New Guinea, not Australia. Then, you show footage of the Booster, not the , discussing the landing of Starship in Australia. You can do better.
Landing the starship in australia is a very good idea...Space X has just to add the small landing feet as for SN10
TH-camrs interviewing each other is not my prefered videos.
Just to avoid misunderstandings, I love you both and see all your videos, but I prefer when you interview politicians and technical experts (in reverse priority :-))
Bush Ellie sounds just like Bush Barbie mate. NO, the accent is good, right? 🐨🐨🐨
Two of my three favorite Space News people in one video! Great information!! Thanks! (Felix at WAI is my other favorite by the way 🙂) Go Australia Space!!
Did you see Ellie’s interview with Felix?
As someone who lives in Perth Western Australia, I did wonder if it over shot it could come down somewhere in Western Australia.
I was also thinking, why not attempt to land one in the WA desert and film it.
Btw I think the answer to why not somewhere else is that it's doing a suborbital flight without restarting it's engine. And off Western Australia happens to be where it comes down.
Western Australia has terrain like Mars anyway, so yeah, why not. Good practice.
North Western Australia has lots of LNG as well for starship fuel..Put it down on land
Awesome interview with Marcus again. Whoa…you’re up to 123K subscribers already? Great! Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
Future add, “We have a presale special of vacation tickets to SPACEPORT AUSTRALIA” To and from flights will be aboard the “STAR SHIP” from SPACEX.
It is a bit of a long flight so please be prepared to set aside an hour for the flight.
Why not land it with mini legs like SN15 on a huge concrete surface in the aussi dessert?
Thanks Ellie, even if your Aussie accent hurt my ears 🤣
Oh my God, I'm so happy, it's going to be amazing to have a base in Australia, along with Norway, and Canada, it's the most beautiful place in the world, and what wonderful people.❤️👏👏👏💥🔥🚀🌬️🌊🗽
So. For testing, the Starship's payload could be it's own inflatable life raft, making it easier to recover?
Brilliant idea! An original Roadster could be the cherry for the sundae.
And an outboard motor
I don't understand why Elon doesn't just mount a space shuttle influenced starship on top of the booster and land it like a plane.
Space shuttles take up space for runways spacex doesnt want to do that and plus this vehicle is for mars landings using a airplane design wont work in mars little to no atmosphere
Getting a couple countries or a trio working with space X, they have a wider window of entry and launch options. Also with international ops, Elon would have options should a government tries to dictate to the company. The time savings for point to point would be of limited use due to cost but might be a option with space tourism as a factor. The less than an hour around the world to be a selling point in general is yet far off as they would need a site for every airport and the Starships would need to be as common as a Boeing or Airbus jet.
2:00 I didn't realise Australia was close to the equator.. immediately googled it. But yes its much closer than any US launch site. Point to point starship from Texas to Australia makes a lot of sense for transporting goods and materials.
Another reason to put Starship Stage Zeroes in Australia: to fill up the orbital fuel station, Stage Zero will need LOTS of propellant in a short amount of time (eg. 15 launches within a day). Unless they mobilize all the tanker trucks in western USA for the job, they're going to run out of fuel. Launch facilities spread out throughout the world are going to be needed. Luckily, Australia has a lot of east coast.
Darwin in the Northern Territory has a LNG plant which probably could produce Liquid Methane & or there are plans to set-up an immense solar power farm there hint Carbon capture grants are available to produce Methane via subatia process
Well done! I start my Saturday mornings watching Marcus!
Next one coming shortly. Big vid this week. Finalising the editing right now.
seems like perfect place to do a test point to point for space force, land in drink..then if spot on land out back on flip down legs..space force does want point to point abilities.
Ty Ellie
Space Force will want a tower on Diego Garcia.
Australia did catch Skylab for NASA. 🤣
😊Hey Ellie
Cheers Ellie... ! Actually you did OK on the accent..! It is hard to replicate. Any spaceX article being recovered in Australia will be AWESOME...!! Hopefully it will happen..! BTW the "algorithm" must have unsubscribed me...
29 November 1967 Australia was the third nation ever to launch a satellite - Weapons Research Establishment (WRE), which managed the Woomera Range, and the University of Adelaide. WRESAT was launched from South Australian launch facility Woomera on 29 November 1967- the British government complained to Australian Prime minister at the time - Robert Menzies who then dismantled the rocket launch facility - USSR first launch then the USA then Australia
The first orbital launch from Australia was in 1971: the British rocket Black Arrow launched satellite Prospero to LEO from Woomera in South Australia. Starting in 1969 there were a total of 4 launches of Black Arrow from Woomera, the first 1968 demo flight failed, the March 1970 demo flight succeeded, the September 1970 flight with a satellite payload failed and the 1971 orbital flight succeeded.
It wouldn't surprise me if Australia becomes a hot bed of commercial launch from multiple companies like Gilmour Space, Rocket Lab and SpaceX.
I saw a vid of news people with animals last night ! Guess who was the first new person on the video? Yep you ! You did a good job and your still doing it !
lol must be the llama outtake :-)
Thank you so much
I’ve def evolved a lot over time
Especially in my space knowledge
STILL LEARNING
What makes this a little less exciting, is the context of Us/Australia military security arrangements adversarial to China. Boo boo
Land in Australia, refuel the birds, be prepared for minor repairs, launch the birds. Military, Commercial Cargo, VIP Travel applications initially. Commercial Passenger Service piggy backs on cargo when cost per passenger pound reaches $25.00
Elon just heard about the beaches of Western Australia and was looking for any excuse to visit them on the regular..... ; )
If australia, wants to have an orbital rocket?? Why don't they copy SpaceX like Japan is doing?? Honistly, space X wants to have a relationship. Make it contingent to have ausie engineer's come to boca and learn from, the best, in my opinion? That way the ausdie government can compeet agenst Japan, ESA, CSA, and whoever is shipping rockets to French Guiana! An AUS, USA, collaborative would put the rest of the space race, far behind. Not to destroy relatins with those countries, i see benifits, uch as racist tension. Possably eliminate it, for the Human race.
That's not a rocket, thiissss... is a rocket! (Paul Hogan voice, pulling out a Starship 🙂)
On a side note, the British launched a satellite from Australia, once (1971), and then the British space launch effort was cancelled (actually it had already been cancelled by the time of the successful launch). Black Arrow was the rocket, about the size of the Electron rocket.
As an Australian I'll ask what is really on our minds in regard to this subject. Are we going to be able to order pizza from the U.S .Will Elon get a New Yorker to Australia ????? This could be monumental for hemispherical relations. Pizza for Peace I say.
Marcus could have taken the opportunity to give companies like Equatorial Launch Australia a plug, but I'm splitting hairs. Always great stuff from him.
Could the tower transports from the Cape to Boca Chica have been, among other things, concept testing for the long distance transport of Starship components? While I imagine that production ships could easily be delivered to Australia from orbit, the superheavy or superheavies won't have that capability. Also, what ship would you use for this given the superheavy's bulk? Something like the Pegasus barge, loaded onto a semi-submersible heavy lift ship for the occasion or maybe lease the ship used to transport Arianes to French Guiana (assuming Starship and superheavy fit)?
After watching this video I realise that Marcus House knows little or nothing about Australia's involvement in space flights and technology. In fact some of his comments belittled our more than 60 years of significant Aerospace achievements. To suggest that P2P transport will only be useful for military transport purposes shows a rather shallow and shortsighted point of view. And having no idea where the Starship came down in the Indian Ocean left me rather disappointed with his knowledge. A bit of a shame really, as this was my first Ellie video and the first time seeing Marcus. And he has over half a million subscribers...
Hey hey, it's Marcus House...
But seriously, the US already has military support for rocketry and flight testing in the Woomera prohibited area in the middle of Australia.
I work at a copper mine within the area and there are often military exercises carried out that close roads, and sometimes require all mining staff to leave the site for a period of time.
Can't imagine it would be too hard to allow Space X to land some hardware offshore and tow it into port.
Would love to see Starship in Australia!!!
It'd have to be able to land upside down though right? 😛
Would love to see Space X collaborate Star Ship activities with Australia. It would be the beginning of a world wide endeavor of point to point landings. BTW, love the braids Ellie !
Hey there Ellie. Good to see you establishing yourself as a serious space industry reporter, it's great to see a new entry into that space (lol). Yes, I still like your cleavage and your pretty face, but I truly do now watch your work & appreciate your contribution to informing us about important advances in space technology & particularly SpaceX. Mitch, Australia x
Will be great if Australia can play one small part in SpaceX's endeavours. Appreciate your Aussie accent attempt, Ellie, but it sounded like Cockney to me. The broadest Aussie version of how to say our country is "Straya".
With the Australian and US technology transfer occurring with future nuclear submarines being sold to Australia, the possibility of more rocket technology transfers just makes sense. The ITAR restrictions make sense in general, but the issues can obviously be overcome - see the launching of US tech rockets from New Zealand as an example. The English speaking parts of the world need to unite to compete in the future against China, India and potentially others in the future. I say compete in the most open sense of the word. Not military but commerce. Mars will require this type of effort. No reason that English cannot be the first language spoken there other than our collective will to make it happen. No reason that any nation should be frozen out of deep space. There should no barrier to India. They obviously have the desire and can contribute to the effort. No single nation state should control Mars and beyond.
I have to disagree with Marcus on the viability of Point2Point. Starship could easily hold 150 people and a sub-orbital flight uses far less fuel. A ticket price could be no more than a business class fare and be under an hour gate to gate. Catching the morning rocket could easily be a thing.
Ellie/Marcus You are right, Gilmour space are waiting on paperwork to launch at rocket here in Bowen Nth Qld. It has been ready since May this year, Gilmour space has built a launch site at Bowen.
Love Marcus. I've been watching him for a long time. Would love to see you do live colab together. I know he would love to visit Starbase sometime. Nice interview BTW.
If they land on a ship, it will always be on a tower, for later launch near a city, for the purpose of rapid inter city transportation, far from the shore to conform with local
regulations. The pax will probably be ferried using Voith Schneider propellers to preciselly maneuver to the ship even in windy conditions, tried and proven with the ferries on lago di Como in Italia.
The same ferries
can ship the methane, local ship air separation units will provide the LNO2 and Lox.
This way with minimum added infrastructure a practical continent spanning point to point transportation can be organized.
Well done on the accent! 😂
It would be awesome if we had a catch tower in Australia and we could also launch.
That might make sense for the most efficient utilization of Starship
If we launched from here and landed in Texas.
Highly doubt a wet landed ship would be reflown, trapped water inside the heat tiles turning to steam will destroy them.
Loved it. Guess the Aussie thingy is inevitable for short flights half way round Earth. Hope I live long enough to see it. Not as important as 1st Mars landing though!
Marcus doesn't know Australia is NASA LMAO. 😂
Queenslanders don't know man.
Elon made a huge mistake not starting a massive unmanned cargo airship company decades ago. I think he could've nailed it down good enough, because i know Sergey Brin also entertains himself with such activities but to no practical results, so i have zero hope in Brin and his airship. I understand that Elon already had a lot on his plate, but still could've given it a shot.
oh no please dont do that accent again haha
Bahahaha
That bad huh?😂😂
@@ellieinspace being one of your many aussie fans, it was pretty bad :) but we still love you :)
The Australian Government has always been more about obstructing progress for Australia even while making noises of being for progress in almost any field of business..... Unless of course the Government is given mountains of money yet even then they demand massive fees for doing bugger all.
I think OZ needs to find its own path. NZ already has a viable option and is way smaller. Space exploration is a huge business opportunity ready to take off for the brave ones.
Hopefully we see some rockets down under soon. New Zealand has Rocket Lab, we can't let them have all the fun 😅
Great Video ! Back in the last Century there was talk of a Space Port in the North East corner of the country in a wildlife park... Any progress on a space port ? tjl
Its a ship why couldn't it be fitted with inflatable bladders that can be filled with oxygen after it lands in the ocean, during testing stages, for a landing that the ship stays in one peace and sinks assumedly. Once its floated barges could drag it back into port. Probably easier said then done.
Starship is transported this way becuase they are saving money by not making the structure of the ship to lay sideways. The ship spends all its time pointing up.
Talking about splashdown? .... Building an Australian launch Tower is only $ 120 million or so... That should be the speculation
Imagine in the future another starbase located in Australia. You could travel Us to Oz in under an hour!
OMG. I'm in Perth western Australia. I'll be your Boots on the ground here.
Ellie you are funny.
Doing an aussie accent that sounds like a Pommie.
Love ya work.
They should build a facility in Australia. Plenty of space
Great interview. Please don’t try that accent😂😂 sounds nothing like how we do….
When you started the accent, I thought you were having a stroke until you pointed out you can't do our accent. 😂
North Australia is not near the equator. I just looked on google earth. The Philippines are.
It just makes sense to launch from down under, they can just fall into space!
Great video. It makes sense now.
I've been in Australia for nearly 20 years and still can't do the Aussie accent. 😂
If you ever try to insult us Aussies again by poorly attempting our accent then I'm unsubscribing 🙃😉😆
If it’s gonna launch there, it’ll need to land there so just build a tower to catch it after flying it there.
Hopefully a similar collab between US and UK is also possible...
I'm a kill Tony Redman freak from Australia, I love your work and you xo
Did Elon ever watch those flying robot anime shows as a kid?
Accent, terrible. Funny. Thanks for your interest in Oz
Kriky I hope he lands it at and in Oyster Bay 2225.😜🤪😝🤑🤗
so why is elon musk not launching from china? He would be in mars by now with no rules and a fast team
I would love to see Elon franchise his technology, worldwide.
Hey Marcus 👋 👍
Marcus Is fantastic Ellie, and as an Aussie, and a person who went to tassie for their honeymoon, Tasmania is a beautiful place to visit. Late September through to Christmas, around fruit and berry picking seasons, absolutely gorgeous. Couldn’t recommend the place and the people with anything other than 100% enthusiasm. You should go down there for a holiday some time!! Thanks to yourself and Marcus for a great segment. Greetings from the land down under!!
Yep. Best time is late spring / early Autumn in my opinion. When everything is nice and green. We have a beautiful state for sure.
We visited Tasmania for Christmas 2008 it was hot in Adelaide so I didn't pack a jacket, got one in Mole Creek.
@@scottbaker9066 Haha. I grew up very close to Mole Creek as it happens.