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"BetterHelp" (once a prominent TH-cam sponsor...) is making a comeback on the platform after 6 years, with a massive advertising push in the wake of newly forgotten scandals, and breaches of trust.
While some viewers may not remember the details about this company... that doesn't change their track record, and it certainly does not mean that their business ethics have improved. Today I wanted to re-evaluate this company since it will be appearing on a lot peoples feeds with increasing frequency over the coming months.
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You should check out HisTherapist
An actual therapist who is "red pill" or "manosphere" focused. Seeing him sponsoring someone like you would be awesome.
Actual better help
What happened to "CareDash" users who were seeking care other than therapy?
Where they also redirected somewhere?
TAKE YOUR PRIVACY BACK! sounds like DDGo...
Wow, when Jezebel has the Moral High Ground over a company you know you are dealing with THE WORST!
i'll take a Raid shadow legends sponsor ad over a Betterhelp ad
Raycon too.
Raid and Raycon are actually pretty good
the game isnt that bad. sure its pay to win, but you can have fun with it for free. Its not the worst game of its kind.
id take a crypto gambling ad over better help. at least you have a chance to win back the money you lose lol
@@djbobby224 No! raycons are horrible and way to expensive. just get JBLs.
They are cheap and very good.
the next steps in quality is like 500€ and its just not worth it for outside.
My mom is part of a company for therapists that are suing them because they literally used my mom’s counselor profile without her consent. They are a scam
Was this on CareDash or the BetterHelp site?
Best luck on that lawsuit
I wish more videos and articles would report on this. It’s so highly concerning!
I hope they sue Better Help into bankruptcy, they screwed me at a very vulnerable position in my life as a teenager
Wow that’s shitty
WOW .. fraud, much!?
People taking paid sponsorships should not be allowed to falsely imply that they used a service they didn’t use.
How are you going to prove a TH-camr never used a service, especially if it's supposed to stay private like with BetterHelp?
Even if investigators had magic powers, it would be so easy for these sponsored TH-camrs to "use" these services for like 10 minutes just to be able to say they used that service... As long as the general population will stay dumb and uneducated these companies will continue to make billions.
every mf saying they personally played raid shadow legends and love it
Yeah, as an Australian when I watch a video from someone I know is living in Australia I hate it when I actually check out their sponsor and it turns out that the product they are peddling isn’t even available in Australia. So like how would they know how good the product is if there is no way they could have tried it? It does make it easier to spot a bad product this way at least but this is just one aspect of how bad sponsorships are becoming these days.
@@duffinthemuffin5792fr like ive seen gameplay of raid and it looks so bad its like 480p 💀
exactly
I’m really proud of Danny Gonzalez who, once people told him what better help actually was like, took the sponsor off the video. More people need to do that
Babish is currently advertising it frequemtly and people are commenting always a lot. but some creators have contracts and cannot just leave i suppose. but there should always be a limit what we shoulb tolerate.
@@garcipatBabish himself probably doesn’t even read his own comments.
@@andreeacat7071 sadly and probably true
Meanwhile, Jay Foreman’s only response has been to say that he’s stuck in a contract.
I love Danny 💜
Don't forget the psychological manipulation of making the cancel button say "quit therapy." Seems innocuous to some sure, but that phrase has serious power behind it to anyone who has gone through therapy and deals with psychological issues. It's akin to saying "You need help, but you're actively deciding to not take it."
That's a really good point. A terrible company like this really needs to be exposed as NOT being real therapy. Because people who've never tried therapy before may never try again after this kind of experience.
The button should say, "Quit therapy, you quitter!!!"
Typical corporate manipulation.
yeah I thought that was the bad thing there, "quit therapy" feels like a "give up your life is hopeless" vibe. I thought the don't quit button was pretty straight forward
ye that's a low blow, but granted, therapy its a scam, so you can view it as "exit scam"
Ima be real, if its a sponsor, ill consider it a scam automatically
Same, in my experience, only scammers and grifters spend so much advertising money on TH-cam. 90% of the products advertised on TH-cam always end up being some kind of scam or just overpriced crap.
Amen man.
What about Echelon promoting incogni🤔?
@@Youll_Love_It_At_Levitz Best case scenario: you waste some money.
More realistic scenario: they are selling detailed profiles of all your online activities.
@@Youll_Love_It_At_Levitzas someone who's tried Incogni, its actually pretty sweet. It used to be if i googled my name id be able to find my address, phone number and a bunch of other info from those people finder agregator sites. After paying for it for a month them cancelling now when i google my name none of that comes up anymore.
Too many TH-camr's DO NOT research these companies before accepting the sponsor's paycheck. It's sad 🙄
Frr they take anything they get
@@StillNoClue22at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the TH-camrs just don't care and just accept the sponsor anyway cuz 'its free money!!1!'
@@Caldera_Scarabcould be like the cs2 gambling site ads situation rn where the companies offer youtubers so much money they can "ignore" the problem (which in cs2s case is its a well known thing the biggest consumers of gambling sites are under 18)
Or they,, go back to the exact same sponsor. Veritasium key example.
A bag is a bag
Should be illegal. Glad YT are policing ad blockers instead of looking closer at the ads they are taking cash to promote.
TH-cam blaming me for using an ad blocker when half the "ads" I get are just mobile games with softcore porn
yt forcing me to look at 18+ ads DIRECTED AT CHILDREN despite me reporting them, but giving me a warning for child endangerment on a vine playlist that's existed since 2019. scummy site run by scummy people
insert something between the two comments above, specially the first one
I keep getting those weird 'gacha heat' ads
It is illegal.
fuck im so glad i use crippling alcoholism as a coping mechanism over online mental health alternatives.
Based
I get it .. but it catches up with you.
Like any medication. It's only meant to be a crutch to help you cope until you heal enough that you don't need it. If you stay on any head meds, either prescription or self medication, for too long devastating side effects catch up to you. Doesn't matter if it's SSRI's, benzodiazipenes, alcohol, amphetamines or any of the other 1000s. They're all a band aid patch for your mental health that covers up the symptoms without addressing the actual root cause. Best to just go to therapy (not BetterHelp though) and start eating healthier drinking more water and exercising.
Oh I know friend, ain't it the truth? I used to be severly troubled with mental illness. Now I'm not troubled. Problem solved. :D
@@THE-X-Force not if you use meth to outrun it. boom-tish
I keep getting gambling ads after i started searching for gambling addiction self help videos.
Bruh…
Yep. But that's ai search and modern algorithms at work
TH-cam is evil.
Disable 3rd party cookies and get rid of fakebook ..
I get Miracle Bra and Manscaping on the same video. I must be a mess.
I'm a simple man. I see a Betterhelp sponsorship, I unsubscribe.
This is the way
I make sure to leave a comment so others know as well. It sends a clear message.
i wish i would do that but i doubt i would care.
I do the same for all VPN sponsorships
good on you,
i did the same
The use of the wording "Quit Therapy" is also a psychological angle. There is a much more negative connotation with choosing to quit something like therapy than there is with choosing to cancel your service with a specific provider. If you are quitting then you are giving up on doing something, whilst cancelling a service is just that, cancelling a specific service - in many cases to replace it with another! What Better Help opted to use is a shame tactic to make the client feel just that tiny bit more guilty about hitting that cancel button. This is why they opted to use the exact wording they have when you attempt to cancel your subscription with them. As a mental health app, they know full and well that this is a shame tactic and that their client base includes vulnerable individuals who are susceptible to such exploitative practices, yet they still opted to use them and exploit the mental health struggles of those clients in an attempt to get them not to cancel their subscriptions! That's pretty bloody shady for an app that claims to care about bettering people's mental health, now isn't it? Almost like the shame tactics some abusers try to use when you try to leave them!
Ironic having an incogni sponsorship, considering the fact that they don’t exactly make it easy to cancel their subscription plan either, deliberately.
has there ever been an easy to cancel subscription?
Now another youtuber will make a video 'The "Incogni" TH-cam Virus is BACK' and have BetterHelp as a sponsor.
Well Incogni isn't for mental health so there's that. They're not claiming to give you health care. It's not just about the subscription.
@@oatmeal710all the ones I've ever had. You log in and click "cancel subscription" and it's done.
Almost true, I just sent them an email and they cancelled. They should make it easier, but an email was enough.
The whole "creators need sponsors for money" thing really isnt that clear cut. I need money to survive. Im dirt poor. But if i start selling dangerous drugs on the street that will cause harm to my customers then thats not okay. The viewers are customers and when you're sponsored your essentialy selling us that product or selling us on it using your influence so if that product is harmful then its not justified by "creator need money"
I feel no guilt about using SponsorBlock when channels take sponsorships from shady companies.
exactly this !!! id rather be broke and have basic morals than accept a check that requires me to tell people who might trust my opinion to use a product that has directly hurt so many fuckin people. ill take my food stamps any day if gettin money meant i had to let a company take advantage of vulnerable people
Its also not the creators job to make sure the product is safe and effective. Thats your job.
@@sectionsixty4020 Except... If you are getting paid to advertise something... It is, in fact, your responsibility to make sure you arent advertising legitimate garbage.
Like i'm sorry I'm going to say it but without an audience, no youtuber would have anything to their name at all. Without an audience, youtubers wouldn't even GET sponsorships. so the least they can do it make sure they aren't selling shit that could actively HARM the audience that pays their damn bills.
@@sectionsixty4020a creator still shouldnt sponsor an obviously bad and dangerous sponsorship. In fact, it IS their job to research the sponsorship atleast a LITTLE bit to see if theyre not advertising a… i dunno… scam???
I did a betterhelp session once years ago. My "therapist" forgot my appointment, then talked over his kids the whole time. I think they were at the park. I had to keep repeating myself and it went nowhere. These people are fakes. Don't be fooled.
My "favorite" Better Help horror story was when a Gay individual signed up and SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED a therapist who was comfortable treating gay individuals....and was immediately signed up with one who tried to push Conversion Therapy on them.
Its downright malicious.
Well, technically that person was comfortable to work on gay people. Thier work is just quackery.
Companies that prey upon people's mental health really need to face criminal charges.
Criminal negligence
you cant just banish a quarter to third of the healthcare industry...
@@mugnuz Why not? If it is the peoples will and we're in a democracy and it is passed into law, then why not?
@@jannikheidemann3805 if if if. then do. its just not how it usually goes. would it be rational and nice? sure but its not utopia
@@jannikheidemann3805*Constitutional Republic
If you live in the States
BetterHelp-ing themselves to your wallet. And all the influencers promoting this garbage should be ashamed.
Influencers have no shame. The very word is an accusation yet they are proud of it.
Influncers only care about money you can always see when a sponsor ad season starts when you see like 10 different TH-camrs read the script with no changes so you can hear the corporate speak
And they don’t care to say anything to their community just look at any sponsor video even from just a year ago there’s still videos with links to that Scottish land scam
True and real!
They should be deplatformed tbh
Agreed, there's no excuse when there's other crappy products for them to shill that don't take advantage of people in a mentally bad spot as widely known and as egregious as betterhelp
My actual therapist recommended better help. I was shocked. I tried to tell her it wasn’t to be trusted because she didn’t believe me
She's probably paid to forget.
Yikes.
Curious as to the reason your actual therapist would refer you to a supposedly "good" zoom call style (shit) app.
@@Primal_Directive 🤷♀️
Money.
Now imagine them selling those data to insurances so they don’t accept you for pre-existing conditions
Yikes!
That's terrifying
Like Incogni does with your data you mean?
With each passing day, we're hitting another bottom,
the feeling that greed has no limit.
That is exactly how I immagine they have that much money to sponsor at such high rates.
The nice thing about TH-cam ads is that it lets me know which products, services, and companies to AVOID!
Same. I never buy products or services that i saw in a ad.
I have seen one good ad, but that was for a very niche product and quite a while ago.
Lol no shit right? Seems like it's about a 90% ratio maybe higher.. kind of screws it up for the rest that actually have a product worthy, like you got a filter a little bit.. The $3 earbuds for a fortune, The garbage spyware browsers... The mobile gotcha games...
Like it helps if you frame it a little bit more honestly than these services are attempting at, to get that personal connection and personal recommendation from the TH-cam and creator-based model of content delivery.. But, it is what it is and you kind of got to read between the lines a little bit, not too much though.
But it's pretty clear at this point, if it's in an advertisement... You're better off disregarding it, or actively avoiding it then you are to actually take a recommendation assuming that a creator actually believes in a product or even says they believe in a product...
There are things like HelloFresh and whatnot, those are legit, actually, reasonably up front services that do a thing.. and even some of the VPNs are reasonable for a VPN service, although... All of them should be treated extremely suspect when selecting because it's incredibly region-dependent and One should understand what they're doing with that, and what it offers and what it doesn't and what one has to do on their end before even bothering...
But you know what.. The bar is so low, and the creators themselves will talk about it outside of this particular sponsorship video etc.. you basically like okay yeah, all of this is trash until proven otherwise, because you're seeing the absolute trash of the trash, to the point of harmful, sold under the same emphasis More often then not, as anything that's quality.
same, only ad i clicked was Overdrive song promo xD
It's like searching for 1 fish(a good advertised product) in the sea of advertisements
So BetterHelp is basically this year's version of Established Titles... only the "product" being hawked is therapy, rather than land ownership.
Established titles wasnt even that bad tbh. It was a novelty gift... this is a "mental health" application with may more sinister implications in their activity.
@@UpperEchelon Yeah, at least the worst thing established titles could do was waste your money, betterhelp can do so much worse
*Established titles is 2018's betterhelp.
well at least established titles changed branding for the scam from the last time the same exact scam was ran.
No, because while Established Titles was a con, it did little to harm those it was fleecing, and the take was relatively low.
BetterHelp "contracted" subpar therapists, forced them into bad work contracts, signed up people without properly advising them of their rights under HIPAA (if you're in the US), violating their rights under HIPAA (if you're in the US), and bilked them for sessions their patients did not attend. I work for a large healthcare system in the US Southwest. If my employer even attempted a sliver of what they did, the Feds would swoop in and shut us down. There would be no settlement. There would be no billing Medicare/Medicaid. And when state ran health plans and private insurance companies got wind of that, we wouldn't be able to bill them, either. Effectively a death blow. The only reason it's not a death blow for BetterHelp is that BetterHelp does not bill any federal, state, or private insurance as their business is 100 percent out of pocket.
My aunt is a licensed therapist and has had more than one patient that was horribly misdiagnosed by BetterHelp therapists. Which isn't surprising, considering they're allowed to operate by text only which is generally a big no-no - humans have so much body language and unconscious vocal tells that are vital to accurate diagnosis.
They also allow therapists to work outside their own state, which is illegal to put it bluntly. Therapist licenses have specific restrictions based on that state's board, which often require different levels of experience/mentor hours etc. Not to mention entirely different countries and their requirements.
Not even once with BetterHelp.
Therapists aren't even supposed to give diagnoses regardless, no? They can identify problems and suggest approaches but normally a psychologist makes the actual diagnosis.
Well to play devils advocate a little, i was a corpsman in the navy, that’s worked in my fair share of mental health departments, we sometimes do make check in calls/text on every patient to catch up with them. However we also saw them in person on a weekly, bi -weekly basis. Not saying you’re wrong just saying there are multiple facets of care depending on the severity of each patient. I do agree that better-help’s strict policy of “socially distant therapist” is very costly on how much they can do for someone.
BetterHelp (like so many other services that do TH-cam sponsorships) just sounded like a scam to me in the first place. But maybe that's because I was already aware of how a lot of licensing differs from state to state and that a person needs to be licensed with each state they practice medicine in - even if they're seeing their patient via tele-medicine.
Granted, I was introduced to the weird and complicated system of state licensing for a ton of professions via life insurance. I used to work processing life insurance applications for an international financial company (although I only handled the life insurance they offer in the US - I don't even know if they offer life insurance in other countries).
Ofc, other services like Incogni also hit that "too good to be true" button IMO. I'm just waiting for the news to come out about these new services that supposedly remove your info from data sales and stuff like that.
@@harpon2816 I think that depends on what the therapists' actual qualifications are (different states have different regulations and requirements). Same thing applies to therapists in nations outside the US.
I know my therapist had to send me to a psychologist to be evaluated for ADHD. I haven't decided yet whether or not I want an autism diagnosis.
Next: *The "Incogni" TH-cam Virus is BACK*
"But before we get further into the video, I'd like to thank our sponsor: BetterHelp..."
Or "How VPNs don't protect your privacy." I see that surfshark link in the description.
"You couldn't possibly send 100s of emails"
I unsubbed to a lot of channels when I saw them start shilling this. People have the memory of goldfish.
Good, hold creators accountable.
HUGE ANIME BREASTS
@@KokoroKatsura
Yeah it's real frustrating when it comes from the same source as well.. people that actually covered this lol.. like it's unexcusable either way, they're either too stupid to do a simple search before promoting something so.. clearly any of their content really can't have any value beyond aesthetic... Or they're actively not caring that they're they are directing the most vulnerable subsection of their audience into harm's way for cash.
The sad thing is, if you unsub and stop watching everyone who shills and lies, or did at some point, about raid casino legends, better help and some other scummy scams... You'd have to unsub from 90-95% of channels and blacklist most streamers.
Most of the rest, just aren't big enough to get the sponsorships. There is such a tiny fraction of content creators with integrity, it's insane.
The ones who have great reputation for being "nice" and good people blah blah. The same, also sooner or later started to shill scams. Even when they already make lots of money.
Thank God someone is still holding them accountable. Why do cc's keep taking their money, especially when many know their whole business model is a grift?
Simply put, many still don't.
You answered your own question…. $$$ greed
A lot of content creators are genuinely really dumb
Because 96% if cc are trash that only do it for money.
Yt - we must combat medical misinformation, you are BANNED for saying men don't become women.
Also yt - let me tell you about this one weird trick that cures diabeatus
Mickey Atkins is a therapist on youtube thats been cataloging BetterHelp's activities. They never stopped. Thanks for bringing attention to it again
I wish Better Help hadn’t forced Mickey to remove their original video criticizing them. It was one of the few videos I could find (before stumbling on this one) that actually addressed how Better Help had profiles/accounts made of real therapists without those therapists’ knowledge or consent. Better Help (through CareDash) deliberately mislead and essentially stole their clientele/patients from legitimate licensed therapists.
Anthony Padilla be like "existing is exhausting"
I'm pretty sure he has stock in betterhelp or something. Multiple fans tried to warn him about Betterhelp, but he never listened and kept getting sponsored by them.
I've tried the app and I felt like I was helping the councilors with their mental health more than they "helped" me
Maybe you were chatting with an AI bot
thats all therpy but you losers pay out the ass for it
xD
I'm so curious to hear more about this
This is bullshit and those are not councilors those are therapists...
What? Betterhelp is still operating? How many times is this "service" going to be exposed before the supposed authorities do their job?
I am surprised they didn't at least try to rebrand. I like to think people have a decent long term memory.
If the avg. person had any long-term memory there wouldn't be a red hat left in the country.
Same, I thought that betterhelp was already bankrupt because I've NEVER seen any of those ads since 2022, only to find that they suddenly popping off again this year
@@THE-X-Force He's getting re-elected. Cope.
They were fined by the ftc. A few channels kept talking about better help, saying they were even worse than before. But some youtubers just don't care and keep advertising. Oh well
@@DigitalApex man I feel sorry for Americans. They truly hate their country and themselves so much 😂
TH-camrs, including Anthony Padilla, Jacksfilms, and Daniel Thrasher, continue to accept sponsorships from BetterHelp, even with this knowledge out there.
And to add onto that, it's like everyone just forgot that BH did this in the first place, allowing them to continue sponsoring their favorite creators with no complaints.
I can't believe this at all. Why has BH not been given the Established Titles treatment yet?!
It's a shame, As far as I've read many of these guys have contracts for several videos. If I'm not wrong Ted Nivison still had some videos for his contract when the controversy resurfaced. It's a shame that most youtubers don't do their research.
Also I did not expect to see your comment here.
Vsauce is also taking sponsorships from BetterHelp...bruh.
Think Ryan George (the pitch meetings guy) is as well. Or at least he was. Maybe he’s stopped now.
Adding SB737 to the list
Daniel Thrasher is the worst one. He didn't just take a sponsorship. He went out of his way to make full ads for them.
I signed up for Better Help. They assigned me to people unqualified to treat me, repeatedly. No one except the therapists ever communicated with me when I asked what was going on, and the mental health professionals were just as baffled as I was by how badly it was being handled. I eventually, after a month of getting bounced around and no treatment, threatened to do a chargeback and got refunded. Ever since, I get genuinely angry when I see their ads because I just imagine other people going through that, possibly people that are in even worse shape than I was. Profiteering off of people's suffering like that is inexcusable. The owners should be thrown in prison for life.
Luckily I quit therapy in 2016/17 all together. I was considering better help, but I thought of "what if they ask me for my address?" So I didn't even touched it when I was researching it.
If there was an better program for those who cant trust therapists at all, and wouldnt threatened to send you to the funny farm for saying "I wanna d*" (happened to me). I would consider it. I don't want my thoughts to go away, I just wanna vent and not bother my friends I have left
Any company that credits more than 0.2% of gross revenue provides poor service and needs to be avoided. I’ve never seen any company credit 8% gross revenue ever. In any sector. I’m over 50…
I couldn't find an adequate comparison but I hope people realize how unbelievably bad refunding 8% of your revenue is
@@UpperEchelon Considering that those 8% are just the amount they undeniably had to refund in order to avoid higher costs/ lawsuits, customers might have much higher claims (20% or more?) which are either in clearing or they try to try to not disclose in their financials.
You would find them in provisions which can always be argued to just be estimations and therefore be not as bad.
@@UpperEchelon AST Computer. I would recommend watching the 8 bit guy's talk on them. They made a 737 max look high quality, and an 8% return/refund rate look microscopic. So yeah, you can always get shittier.
Dude, Ubisoft does exactly the same "no cancellation" thing with their subscription. Literally returning error 404 for cancelation site.
But does Ubisoft pretend to offer medical services and violate every notion of privacy? I'm not saying Ubisoft is a great company by any means, but this part of their sins fails in comparison to the rest of what BetterHelp does. Now, with that said, I wouldn't want to work for either company, seeing their treatment of employees and contractors are the same.
The point wasn't that one is worse than the other, the point was the awful cancellation process
@@jackielinde7568You like choosing how they F you?
same with GenderGP
@@scyobiempire4450Very clever 😂
I remember betterhelp getting exposed like 4 years ago, I was so confused seeing youtubers advertise them again in the last year or so. Even youtubers I "respect" advertised them again after their first controversy.
In my eyes the first controversy years ago is unforgivable. No youtubers should have ever worked with them again after that
Betterhelp is the embodiment of the meme that says "Your therapist when your card declines"
As someone who has worked in the mental healthcare industry, it's incredible how many horror stories come out of this company.
Thanks for the heads-up. If I see a TH-camr promoting "Better Help" I'll attempt to direct them here. Mental health is infested with predators...
Mental health is infested with predators? Oh my, I hazard to think what mental disease is infested with. :D
Mr Ballen has them as a sponsor now, w his 8.87M subs. If ur not familiar w Mr Ballen, he's the best (imo) storyteller anywhere, and he does stories about "the strange, dark, and mysterious". He's also a Navy SEAL, and when he does his ad read for BH he talks about when he became a civilian again, the difficult transition, and also the PTSD he had from being in active combat. He gives the impression he has used BH for his therapy, which I'm 99% sure isn't the case. I think he's talking about his own struggles and how he needed therapy to work things out as a testimonial to therapy in general. I don't think he'd keep them as a sponsor if he knew all this.
I know that Kyle Hill promoted it 3 months ago. I was kinda iffy about his channel since.
@@LisaMarie042I write a comment EVERY TIME he uses them as a sponsor in the video, warning the viewers about better help.
It immediately becomes blocked...and yea, I've checked the "newest" comments tab, and scroll through hundreds of comments to see if I missed it.
Creators can block certain words in their comments, and I think that's what is happening. I've avoided using the name, instead using just sponsor, same thing happens.
There's no way he isn't aware of the negative issues surrounding betterhelp. And if he doesn't, that's negligence. For things as serious as mental health treatment, SOMEONE on his team should be doing their due diligence looking into sponsorships they accept. They're funneling their most vulnerable viewers to a terrible company, and since he has such a dedicated audience, he has gained a level of trust with them.
There's no excuse. And he makes so much money from his videos, podcasts, other sponsors, merch, and other endeavors. The greed has gotten in the way of his better judgment, and he does not have my respect.
Thats all its ever been. Scumbags extracting money from gullible people by pretending they have all the answers.
I just received an email from BetterHelp offering to sponsor my channel. I immediately rejected it and I made sure to let them know why:
‘Thank you for your email.
I must reject this sponsorship since I know what BetterHelp has done in the past and the reputation of the platform.
I truly care about my audience and I know BetterHelp’s sponsorship is not a good fit for my channel.
Have a great day,
Bery.’
Yes, I have done sponsorships before but only of products or services I genuinely use. If there’s one contacting me and I have never used, I first take my time to do an extensive research of the brand, reviews, etc before accepting, if I see a fishy one, I just decline it or not even answer their emails. Content creators need to be more aware of what they are promoting, we have an audience and we need to take care of them too, not everything has to be done just for money.
Nice
U are a good citizen, and i shall be checking out ur channel
When I was leaving my previous therapy job, I applied to an interesting looking opportunity in a health system that I hadn't heard of. I researched the company and it looked like a legit smaller healthcare provider the next state over. It turns out the agency was a disguised recruitment agency and they were recruiting for BetterHelp. I noped out of that phone interview SO fast. So very deceptive even in their hiring practices. I opened my own virtual practice instead.
As someone who's Autistic and struggles with Chronic Depression, I implore anyone who's struggling to go to an actual therapist. It's better to talk face-to-face with someone than through a screen, and that's the least of the problems with "Better Help". Never trust an org that advertises so heavily on TH-cam with anything regarding your own health.
My therapist has really helped me through my life since I was a kid. She even gave me my Ball Python: Noodle-Bob, who's been a boon to my mental health.
Noodle-Bob is such an amzing name!
That is a fantastic name for a snake.
Reptiles are the best
If you are still depressed, that doesn't sound like your therapist helped much.
@@cosmancho2959Their job is not to help. Their job is to extract money indefinitely. If anything this female therapist has been conditioning him to think and behave like a woman since childhood. No wonder he is depressed.
Ad starts: “It’s okay not to be okay…”
So, if it’s okay, then why do i need help?!
Oh no! He's figuring it out
Also, bad therapy is worse than no therapy.
@@travismcnasty4239 I havent seen any study that compares therapy against drinking.
I have worked with plenty of functional alcoholics but i never met somebody on meds that wasnt useless and a danger.
We have a forklift operator at work that drinks a bottle of vodka and half a bottle of mouthwash every day and he performs perfectly. meanwhile the whole HR department is on SSRIs and they cant even get the shifts right.
BUT its very different between ethnic groups so i guess there is something genetical about it.
Never met a dry lithuanian, but also never met a homeless one. drinking is even a benefit for them, its turns them from horrible truck drivers into perfect factory worker.
@@travismcnasty4239nah bad mental health "professionals" cause more mental health problems than they solve.
Try to go to church instead?
It amazes me how Anthony Padilla, one of the “historic” TH-camrs with an incredibly popular channel that often related to the health and well-being of the people CONTINUES to use Betterhelp as a sponsor, and nobody seems to be uncomfortable with that fact?? He’s been on the Betterhelp for the last couple of years and seemingly doesn’t care or somehow doesn’t know about Betterhelp’s history
Oh it drives me crazy, especially since Smosh pit has also been taking sponsorships from them on the Reddit reading show, where they literally give advice
@@WishGender god that annoys me so much, and surely even a couple of the people involved in Anthony’s personal channel and Smosh know about how bad Betterhelp is?? Even if they don’t know about the new stuff they’ve surely gotta know about the history, I couldn’t imagine having such a large following and being so okay with encouraging my followers to use a service like Betterhelp
If you make bad pancakes, you need Batter Help.
Ah, I do enjoy a good pun.
I'm just waiting for that HBomberguy case scenario where the youtuber guy would pretend to have a BetterHelp ad until it would spiral into being a investigation of the company.
HBomberGay the sex pest lol.
The "best" part about this scam is that it targets people with mental health issues. Meaning, people who are more likely to cave under the mental pressure and don't go through with the cancellation.
Lack of decisiveness is probably much more common with people with anxiety issues or who experienced burn out
Ayo is that the n*zi eagle in the gay flag 😭😭😭
On top of that, they treat their audience as if everyone has mental health issues. I wouldn't be surprised if most of their therapists aren't licensed, because no licensed therapist would think it's okay to treat everyone around them as mentally ill. That's how you create an epidemic of munchausen's(the term for faking a disorder or illness).
What absolutely kills me is seeing 'mental health' channels with sponsorships from Betterhelp. Like I've enjoyed a number of Cinema Therapy's videos, but to know that they're taking sponsorships from Betterhelp is.. :/
As a licensed therapist myself and a previous fan of CT, their explanation for dropping Better Help due to scandals and then accepting sponsorships again was abysmal. There is great harm to be done when you’re speaking about being an expert in the field and recommending a company that provably violates ethical practices.
This is why I do not watch Cinema Therapy. I already had a hard time actually taking what they said to heart since it felt like they were helping with commodifying mental health, and that just killed what little trust I might have had with them.
You ultimately see peoples values in cases like this. They'd rather screw over other people than take a small cut in profit.
Betterhelp executives need to be held criminally liable.
One of the niche gaming channels I watched took a BetterHelp ad, then turned off comments to hide from the backlash. Only to have to turn them back on because BH’s contract requires a link in the comments.
So if a channel you watch takes their money: they have to leave the comments on and take the backlash, or give the money back and get no bag *and* no dignity.
SponsorBlock
@@amicaaranearum so dang useful when Im on my pc sadly not available when on my phone due to using the official app
@@emiliskogRevanced.
@@NoctisTheBogWitch literally realized to look for it after I made the comment, although i have an issue where shorts (which I watch too many of but still) just wont play fully and or not load which annoys me somewhat
@@emiliskog Don't use the shorts patches.
I've been struggling with depression between 2021-22 and at the time I was considering BetterHelp, but luckily I found local professionals where I live on my own.
Really makes me feel like a dodged a bullet here.
You definitely did. Nothing can replace the modality of in-person care.
(EDIT: and good for you for taking charge over your own health!)
I'm glad you sought help, and I can confirm BetterHelp is awful. My therapist didn't even listen to / remember what I'd said to him despite it LITERALLY being a message back in our chat log. Lazy af. He also entirely changed the topic of why I was seeking therapy. Huge waste of my time and money.
@@subliminal-damage yeah looks like they just see people suffering and see them as moneybags
Manipulating your customers to prevent them from cancelling while being a therapy service for vulnerable people is just evil.
I've just watched a Wisecrack video ("Taylor Swift and the American Propaganda Machine") which was sponsored by BetterHelp and I was compelled to refer them to your video. I even concluded by saying:
"I sincerely hope that you take these accusations seriously and do your own research since taking money from those who prey on the vulnerable is wholly unacceptable."
I hope that they take notice and do not delete my comment.
Any sponsored product goes automatically on my "do not buy" list.
Ive dropped 3 channels i watched for years because of betterhelp sponsors. had one of them call it virtue signalling on twitter. nuts.
yeah MrBallen can't help himself, he needs more money! lol
its disgusting when creators act like they personally use the ads they're sponsored by.
I don't blame youtubers with little ad revenue taking any sponsor, but bigger channels with millions should be more honest about the companies they're shilling for.
As you can make money easily when you have a lot of it, no excuse to take sketchy sponsors money.
@@5thfloor584 I almost watched one of his videos for the first time in ages the other day. glad I decided not to lol
If the channels are interesting enough, I don’t drop them. I just treat every sponsor as akin to those late night infomercials. I take everything advertised online as being bullcrap.
Not everyone has gotten the memo the first time around, and being a TH-camr is harder than ever and sponsors are necessary, so I won't immediately drop someone for taking a better help sponsorship the first time around. But if they're still doing it after the backlash in the comments, I'll consider it
Was one of those channels Cinema Therapy? I dumped them because one of their hosts/bosses, Johnathan Decker, is listed as a licensed therapist. HE SHOULD KNOW THESE PEOPLE ARE SHIT! Other channels where they're not medical or medical-adjacent areas I'll give more leeway too. After all, if you're not in the industry, it's kind of hard to know the rules.
They're specifically targeting vulnerable persons. People who need therapy don't need this crap in their lives. Hopefully anyone preyed upon by BetterHelp can talk it through with a _real_ therapist.
Some of my most FAVORITE youtubers seemingly take money from sponsorships segments for BetterHelp while not knowing about the company's history. I always leave on a message on these videos when I see it, telling them about the shady business practices, inability for customers to quit the service, and not once has any one of these creators ever responded, or stopped making BetterHealth ad segments. Its a shame, I don't know if its because I mainly watch smaller content creators who are literally desperate for the support in order to keep making videos so they are scared to respond and unable to quit taking money from BetterHelp, but I feel awful that BetterHelp is infiltrating a community that I love and scamming people with a service that is hard to cancel and selling their information. I always making sure to comment on any video I see with a BetterHelp ad to at least warn the viewers, and if I'm lucky, also the creator so they might look into the company and hopefully stop any association if possible.
Next you are going to tell me that I am not a landowner in Scotland.😅😂
At least that one only wasted a small amount of money; bad therapy can do far worse.
@@KnakuanaRka Agreed, but my post was joking around and not serious.
But you can still be a Lord.
@@squarerootof2 no you can't!
some bad news for you buddy /s
I feel that you didn't stress enough the severity and insanity of the fact that a mental health app did not verify the competence and qualification of the counselors it assigned to it's users. The potential harm of such a practice is tremendous.
I have heard multiple accounts where their betterhelp "therapists" ghosted them, and after that I just knew it wasn't a good service
Also, the wording bothers me and that seems to be deliberate. People who cancel see 'Quit Therapy' which subconsciously can generate a lot of guilt and shame. Unsubscribing doesn't mean quitting therapy any more than deleting your FB account means you're quitting the internet. There are other forms of beneficial therapy, but that red button implies a person is just giving up. Shame on them.
Thank you for making this. I decided to give their service a try during the prevent back in 2020 and had the WORST therapy experience I’ve ever had in my life. I was going through some pretty rough stuff at the time and this woman that they assigned me was clearly unqualified and had zero empathy, which was crazy. Can’t wait to see this company go bankrupt
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope the years since then have been better to you
Fun fact: even GERMAN influencers and podcasts have them as sponsors now. Guess the grift is branching out across the great pond.
they're looking for a new audiance, I guess! lmao, the English speaking community exposed them, so now they're trying the German speakers... brilliant plan BetterHelp!
Warte wer? Ist ja ekelhaft, habe es aber zum Glück bei noch keinem mir wichtigen mitbekommen.
Yeah they are targeting the netherlands too
I think that people don't stress the severity and insanity of the fact that a mental health app did not verify the competence and qualification of the counselors it assigned to it's users. The potential harm of such a practice is tremendous. Thank you for covering this, it's so dystopianly predatory.
It’s so hard for someone who is immensely struggling to reach out for help and when that help is bad it’s detrimental this is also why it’s terrible for influencers to be a “safe place” for fans
There are no safe spaces on the internet. Only illusions that make people drop thier guard.
Conspiracy theory = I got caught
“You weren’t supposed to do that!”
And they have been the scourge of podcast sponsorships as well.
I wonder what happens to the podcasting industry when Me Undies, Manscaped, Brilliant, BetterHelp, and Blue Apron go under. Doesn't seem that anyone other than cash-burning startups sponsor podcasts en masse. I've never heard of it.
@@KippinCollars Yeah, double-edged sword. But once a creator realize that their sponsor is shady, they "should" make plans to get rid of them.
@@KippinCollars There's always the next idiot/delusional venture capitalist on deck thinking there stuff will be the one that actually becomes something.
I was almost falling for BetterHelp's trap when I was really vulnerable. These people are disgusting and need to face the consequences of their actions.
Wild that in a video exposing a scam sponsor, he promotes another scam sponsor….
Ikr 😂
What's wrong with Incogni?
(I'm genuinely asking - I did a search and nothing came up, but I haven't looked into Incogni much so it's entirely possible I just missed something.)
How is Incogni a scam? I've not seen a single shred of evidence to support this prior to seeing your comment, and searching now I also can't find anything. Not saying it isn't possible, but what evidence do you have for it?
I still can’t believe some of the TH-camrs still do ad for them
bc they're greedy, most only see their viewers as potential income... and up to 200usd per sign up is an insane amount of money
I still cant believe people are gullible enough to join the scam. 😂
@@metallboy25There are people still wearing masks my guy
@@LoganBRK1 Used to watch Cinema Therapy, but no more. They're already stinking rich, and they:
Got 2+ ads on the start of each video.
Sponsor from Betterhelp in the middle of the vid.
2 ads after the Betterhelp sponsorship.
Bit where they tell us they're paywalling content behind Patreon.
2+ ads after the video.
These ultra rich people are squeezing as hard as they possibly can to milk every cent they can from their audience, including accepting super shady sponsorships, when they're already wealthy enough to live lavish lifestyles of luxury, including doing their reviewing in a hecking home theater.
@@mr.s9783there were people wearing masks before covid, too.
I treat all adds from youtube as malicious in nature. Too many of them turn out to be scams, or harmful in nature, such as vshred, VPNs, multiple self help gurus, etc. The qaulity control is so poor, that it is just better to ignore ads in general.
a problem is that normies can't discern if a vpn ad lies to them. the ad read is supposed to cause anxiety for you and 100% of vpn ad briefs are not truthful about what data goes off unencrypted from your pc normally and what encrypted, how https works, how routing works etc.
What??? You don't want to buy a $40,000 Nissan SUV that you were shown for the 327th time???
I feel no guilt about using ad blockers when TH-cam plays ads for scams. I feel no guilt about using SponsorBlock when channels take sponsorships from shady companies.
@lasskinn474 agreed. They often also sell a VPN as a must if you visit public wifi. As long as you visit a https site any malicious person can only see what sites you visit, not what you are looking at in those sites.
@@doufmech4323 yeah. not just often but 100% of the time its' portrayed as that it wouldn't be encrypted and that some rando could see your banking data or whatever. and they don't tell that from the vpn providers datacenter it just leaves as it would have from yours and you have no control on who is tapped into that line and to who that data is sold.
nor do they speak about who owns who in the vpn space and how much of that leads back to china - and as almost all tech channels are sponsored by one or another the tech channels themselves will not talk about the subject.
my particular pet peeve is that all of them promise countries they don't actually have exit points for. it's on the list sure but it's an ip that will geolocate to austria instead of saudi arabia and not be in a saudi arabia block..
"Have you thought about THERAPY?"
"Consider THERAPY"
"You NEED THERAPY"
After seeing my first "better help" 's commercial, I was super skeptical and was so correct huh! LoL
I’m so glad my instant disgust with this fraudulent company was valid after I saw their ads pop up again.
Somehow BetterHelp returned
But they exploded twice 😔
Never left
"I understood that reference."
I tried therapy with Better help and the lady they gave me told me that all my problems were in the "Good book" and because rapture was coming despite one of the only requests I made in their customisation was that I preferred someone non religious
Someone tell Anthony Palladia, he gets sponsored like every video.
If I wanted therapy, I would talk to my *licensed* therapist instead of these online scammers that just want your money. Way to go, BetterHelp. You're a blatant mockery of the mental health profession and you only have yourselves to blame.
Stay safe, Echelon. This video hit close to home for me.
Thank you for covering this, it's so dystionpianly predatory
"dystionpianly"
😂
Wtf
To be fair most of us live in that dystopian future everyone was afraid of in the 1930s-1960s sci-fi
some of you need to be banned from using the word dystopia/dystopian
@@fbidumbbee no
they also have ads on Spotify now. First Spotify locks lyrics behind premium and now they're letting a scam run ads on their platform 😭😭
When you said “Today’s video is brought to you by…” my brain literally autofilled “BetterHelp,” cause I’m so freaking used to hearing that everywhere 😂
The one YTer who has them as a sponsor now, which really bothers me, is Mr Ballen w his 8.87M subs. Anyone who is familiar w Mr Ballen knows he's a Navy SEAL, and when he does his ad read for BH he talks about when he became a civilian again, the difficult transition, and also the PTSD he had from being in active combat. He gives the impression he has used BH for his therapy, which I'm 99% sure isn't the case. I think he's talking about his own struggles and how he needed therapy to work things out as a testimonial to therapy in general. I really wish someone could make him aware of this scam as he's one of my fav creators.
Navy Seal or not, running around with a name like "Mr. Ballen" should be indication enough of what that dude is all about. And the Veteran community has no lack of shitbags...just like any other collection of people.
Bro. He DOESN'T CARE or he would have never accepted the money. It's nothing but naked greed. And that's why I unsubbed his greedy ass as well. He knows EXACTLY what kind of company they are.
He IS aware. He just doesn’t care.
Yup, these replies are correct. Plus, ever known any sf guy that wasn't a psychopath? I haven't.
@@calumlittle9828 sf guy?
BetterHelp: “Get real therapy, online.”
Satan: “Let me just say, I’m a huge fan.”
Thankyou! I keep having to keep this trashfire of a "therapy" service from everyone i know. Now I've got an easy way.
Because of so many scummy companies (like betterHelp, Established Titles and suchlike) being advertised by TH-camrs, it makes me hesitant about advertisers like DeleteMe…
I've begun unsubscribing from any TH-cam channels that still shill this scam of a company. I don't care how long I've been watching them or how popular they are. No channels can claim ignorance of what kind of company they are anymore. If they continue to promote this, they don't respect their audiences. Period.
Good Mythical Morning has started doing this, and that one hurts.
@@NiarahHawthorne I've already unsubscribed from Johnny Harris and Kyle Hill and will probably be unsubbing from Aging Wheels soon because of it. They not only still shill them, but fervently try to defend them in their comments. Economics Explained was shilling them too, but I think he dropped them. I hope so.
Dark patterns on its site, Google-level copouts in its TOS, leaking PHI, and aggressively pursuing subscription based profits. It's not the first company following that route, but it's definitely one of the ugliest.
I have paranoid schizophrenia, major depression, bpd, and adhd. I can’t explain how annoying and hard it was to try and use betterhelp. Not to mention, I’m a struggling adult who’s trying not to be homeless again, so tha fact you can’t get ANY help without paying over $100 is disgusting
Sometimes I feel like I'm on the wrong planet. It just amazes me the stuff people get into, believe, or otherwise engage with.
12:27 Betterhelp candidly admits they care more about your privacy than your mental health. And no, they don't care about your privacy either.
Glad to hear its not just me getting bombarded with these ads.
Thats why avoiding ads entirely, is essential.
As someone in marketing, if a company is seen more than once a month or even 5+ times a week in advertisements. This is a hell of a lot spent on advertising. In some cases advertising can make up for the product, if a product is good without crazy overbearing advertising then the customers should know it’s a good product and not always a good marketing campaign. (Then again this doesn’t always apply but sometimes a product is a great product, so a company doesn’t “need” to advertise it and people will just talk about how good it is and that’s more than enough advertising as to compensating a shit product with advertising.)
Anything seen on TH-cam that’s heavily marketed, seems like partly a way to support the creator, not their subscribers. A good sponsorship should be within the same values of a creator in my opinion, but unfortunately money does a lot to people’s ethical practices.
I think it's interesting how you're talking about one criminal agency and their advertising virus while accepting another criminal agency with their own advertising virus as your own sponsor.
Next, figure out where at the butt bots are coming from.
Butt bots 😂
Mammarie droids
Ass automatons
The arse automatons
Rectum robots
After I lost my wife to cancer, I considered seeing therapy through this organization. I'm SO glad I decided not to.
I’m so sorry for your loss 😢
I’m sorry friend, sending good vibes. Don’t let this discourage you from still seeking help. ❤
🙏
Sorry to hear about your wife. Hopefully, you are getting some help and are part of a survivor's support group. And you did dodge a bullet with not using BetterHelp.
Thank you all for your support and well wishes. I lost my wife in October of 2022, so 2023 was a very difficult year. I'm doing a lot better now and have even started dating again--I'm seeing a widow who lost her husband not long after I lost my wife. Interestingly enough, we found each other even though neither of us were looking or had any intention of dating again. So, yeah, 2024 is a much better year, by far.
My sister was experience psychosis and reached out to better help, thinking she was reaching out for support... can just say it did not end well smh so gross that they're parading around as mental health specialists
> advertises incogni and talks abt how digital security is a hobby
>chrome user
So it's basically boils down to this every advertisement is a scam.
Follow that rule and you'll be fine.
I almost signed up for their service before seeing the prices, left their service before i'd even finished signing up & grateful to have done so.
i used it a few years ago, they took $300 from me to assign me a children’s therapist (I was 20) who was not helpful in the slightest. not to mention cancelling is a huge drag, and i always thought it was strange that they didn’t accept insurance.