I have a strong suspicion that the auto dodge only works if you aren’t pressing any other inputs while the opponent is attacking. So you aren’t allowed to block and have auto dodge at the same time. I feel like he will also be hit if you counter him while he’s attacking.
I noticed that the dash attack at 1:47 also hit Whis before he began the evasion, but Goku missed the follow-up combo because the hit moved Whis out of the hitbox, so maybe you can combo from that?
@@AlexarooFrom my understanding Whis will only dodge normal attacks. So basically when you do rush attacks or ki explosions, but if you combo or perform charged Ki blast, heavy smash attacks and such he won’t dodge.
@0rez1 Hmm, that makes sense. I haven't been keeping up with the info other than the roster, so I was surprised enough already that Whis and UI Goku automatically dodge
I feel like it will work similarly to U.I. in Xenoverse 2. Where if you press nothing, he'll block, but if you counter him while he's doing something like charging or attacking, you'll be able to hit him. We'll just have to wait and see.
@@Mr_Dubbs it shouldnt thanks to yall content creators everything is leaked everywhere theres no suprises or anything to look foward too because yall get to play it way earlier than us regular people which isnt right you got people like nano litterally ruining the gt trailer by realising it early like wjy cant yall just play the game when it comes out like everyone else so its not ruined
I love that you're referring to me as those content creators that get to play early, as if I've had the chance. I wish. Lol. Though no one is forcing anyone to watch any videos on the game if you don't want spoilers. It's really easy to avoid. Just don't watch the videos. I'm just covering whatever I find interesting in the game when I see something worth covering. I noticed lots of people freaking out about Whis being broken, and that he'll completely ruin online play. So I made this video to offer some level of clarification to people, based on footage that's already out there. None of this is me leaking anything. As I don't have access to the game, I wish I did. But I'm just going off what other people have already put out there. Links to those whose footage I use is always left in the description of my videos.
If the point cap for ranked is 15 points, I think Whis should cost something like 11 or 12, to allow for at least 1 weaker character to be played along side him. I don't think that Whis is strong enough to beat 3 or 4 mid point characters all by himself, especially once people realize how he works.
It might be because he might be in training mode as nether whis or beerus moved and the fact you start with 6 off the bat maybe that’s why whis thing doesn’t drain
I feel like it will work as U.I. does in Xenoverse 2, where if you're pressing buttons, attacking, charging, etc... then you'll be able to be hit. But we'll just have to wait and see.
I mean I saw plenty of Videos and tweets of how overpowered and broken he was. That he'll ruin ranked, and or that he should be banned from ranked play entirely. As people were assuming he just can't be hit, period.
@@thatbloodyspy more videos of Whis have come out. As I mentioned in other replies, you can hit Whis if he presses any buttons. So if he's charging, or attacking, or whatever, you can counter. He only dodges everything if not pressing any buttons.
I doubt you'll be able to, at least in Ranked. Maybe in unranked you can set different point limits. But on their recent Online streams, that were in Japanese. They said the point cap was 15 and base Vegeta was 5 points. Base Cooler was 6 points and Tapion was 4 points. So that was the maximum for a team. So I could see Whis being a full 15 points. As I believe SSJ adult Gohan I believe was 7 points, and SSJ Gotenks I believe was 8 points. I really wish we could see points cost somewhere on the character select. Not one single video, have I seen the actual points for any character. All the info I just left was from the captions translations of the devs during the Ranked stream.
@@xen3588 I really wish we had that info. It's weird that it's not visible in the character select screen. The point values for every character. Oh well, we don't have long to wait.
Beerus and Whis is highly unlikely. But again, it depends if it's a hard 15 point limit, or if there's more than one option for ranked. Like a 15 point limit (like we know we're getting) as well as maybe a 25 point limit option? 15 points seemed low to me, knowing that SSJ Gohan and SSJ Gotenks was enough to eat all 15 points. At that point I'd be happy to just play as 1 character, like Whis, SSJ Blue Gogeta, Full power Jiren, etc...
In solo ranked, I would expect to see a lot of Gogeta, Whis, UI Goku, Jiren, Beerus, Broly. If you see a Yamcha, that's when you should be scared, as they are probably good. Lol. But yeah, I'll probably stick more to the team Ranked myself. So I can avoid playing against just the OP characters.
What irritates me is that nobody has posted whis vs whis.
Just a matter of time
@@Mr_Dubbs u do it
I have a strong suspicion that the auto dodge only works if you aren’t pressing any other inputs while the opponent is attacking. So you aren’t allowed to block and have auto dodge at the same time. I feel like he will also be hit if you counter him while he’s attacking.
That's how U.I. works in Xenoverse 2. So you're probably right.
This is the reason I like making db content
Why's that?
To me whis shouldn’t be allowed to be used online but only be used as a special challenge and if you beat him you get prize or a character
That's an interesting idea.
I played against whis Atleast 20 times and I can confirm normal attacks do land if you teleport behind him
That's good to know
I noticed that the dash attack at 1:47 also hit Whis before he began the evasion, but Goku missed the follow-up combo because the hit moved Whis out of the hitbox, so maybe you can combo from that?
@@AlexarooFrom my understanding Whis will only dodge normal attacks. So basically when you do rush attacks or ki explosions, but if you combo or perform charged Ki blast, heavy smash attacks and such he won’t dodge.
@0rez1 Hmm, that makes sense. I haven't been keeping up with the info other than the roster, so I was surprised enough already that Whis and UI Goku automatically dodge
I feel like it will work similarly to U.I. in Xenoverse 2. Where if you press nothing, he'll block, but if you counter him while he's doing something like charging or attacking, you'll be able to hit him. We'll just have to wait and see.
How do people have all this time too play this game too figure it out?💀
We're two weeks out. People are going to be dissecting this game like crazy, all through release.
@@Mr_Dubbs I bet all the story mode,secrets and other stuff are gonna be finished by content creators as soon as the game comes out
@@YourboyStink Most of it is already out there.
@@Mr_Dubbs it shouldnt thanks to yall content creators everything is leaked everywhere theres no suprises or anything to look foward too because yall get to play it way earlier than us regular people which isnt right you got people like nano litterally ruining the gt trailer by realising it early like wjy cant yall just play the game when it comes out like everyone else so its not ruined
I love that you're referring to me as those content creators that get to play early, as if I've had the chance. I wish. Lol.
Though no one is forcing anyone to watch any videos on the game if you don't want spoilers. It's really easy to avoid. Just don't watch the videos. I'm just covering whatever I find interesting in the game when I see something worth covering. I noticed lots of people freaking out about Whis being broken, and that he'll completely ruin online play. So I made this video to offer some level of clarification to people, based on footage that's already out there. None of this is me leaking anything. As I don't have access to the game, I wish I did. But I'm just going off what other people have already put out there. Links to those whose footage I use is always left in the description of my videos.
If the point cap for ranked is 15 points, I think Whis should cost something like 11 or 12, to allow for at least 1 weaker character to be played along side him. I don't think that Whis is strong enough to beat 3 or 4 mid point characters all by himself, especially once people realize how he works.
@@deiko3981 agreed. It looks like the Ginyu force is 3 pts each, as you could get all 5 on a team. Where Vegito and SSJ 3 Gotenks ate all 15 points.
It might be because he might be in training mode as nether whis or beerus moved and the fact you start with 6 off the bat maybe that’s why whis thing doesn’t drain
I'm pretty sure it's confirmed Whis doesn't lose any Ki, and this is not a training mode thing at all.
@@Mr_Dubbs ah alright i just find it weird they didn't move a muscle i never seen a cpu do that in any of the other battles i seen
I feel like it will work as U.I. does in Xenoverse 2, where if you're pressing buttons, attacking, charging, etc... then you'll be able to be hit. But we'll just have to wait and see.
It only works if hes standing still though he cant auto dodge if hes doing any kind of input.
@@CognacMack Yup. I've responded this to almost every comment on the video.
Of course Whis can be fucking hit
I mean I saw plenty of Videos and tweets of how overpowered and broken he was. That he'll ruin ranked, and or that he should be banned from ranked play entirely. As people were assuming he just can't be hit, period.
Go to the start of the clip goku hit his back normally
@@thatbloodyspy more videos of Whis have come out. As I mentioned in other replies, you can hit Whis if he presses any buttons. So if he's charging, or attacking, or whatever, you can counter. He only dodges everything if not pressing any buttons.
if i cant have whis and beerus on the same team im rioting
I doubt you'll be able to, at least in Ranked. Maybe in unranked you can set different point limits. But on their recent Online streams, that were in Japanese. They said the point cap was 15 and base Vegeta was 5 points. Base Cooler was 6 points and Tapion was 4 points. So that was the maximum for a team. So I could see Whis being a full 15 points. As I believe SSJ adult Gohan I believe was 7 points, and SSJ Gotenks I believe was 8 points.
I really wish we could see points cost somewhere on the character select. Not one single video, have I seen the actual points for any character. All the info I just left was from the captions translations of the devs during the Ranked stream.
@@Mr_Dubbs atleast i still have my boy Janemba if i cant play whis/beerus duo 🙏
@@xen3588 I really wish we had that info. It's weird that it's not visible in the character select screen. The point values for every character. Oh well, we don't have long to wait.
@@xen3588 in ranked that shouldn’t be possible
Beerus and Whis is highly unlikely. But again, it depends if it's a hard 15 point limit, or if there's more than one option for ranked. Like a 15 point limit (like we know we're getting) as well as maybe a 25 point limit option? 15 points seemed low to me, knowing that SSJ Gohan and SSJ Gotenks was enough to eat all 15 points. At that point I'd be happy to just play as 1 character, like Whis, SSJ Blue Gogeta, Full power Jiren, etc...
I wanna know why anyone would post this let people figure it out so I can have fun with trolling them :((
Lmao, you watched it, then asked why anyone would post this? You answered your own question.
@@Mr_Dubbs my ADHD kicked in like half way through then went "Woahhh that pink wallpaper looks neat I should edit"
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Just got my first rank match and ran into whis so damn annoying
In solo ranked, I would expect to see a lot of Gogeta, Whis, UI Goku, Jiren, Beerus, Broly. If you see a Yamcha, that's when you should be scared, as they are probably good. Lol. But yeah, I'll probably stick more to the team Ranked myself. So I can avoid playing against just the OP characters.
I cant wait to whooped bc i wanna use bardock💀
Bardock should be a low cost character online. I'd guess 4 points. So he should be a good member of the team.
Or.... just ban Whis/UI Goku from Ranked Modes
That won't happen. But online, it's so rare that you're just not pressing buttons. It's not nearly as bad as people thought it would be.