The BBMF aircraft are not replicas, the Spit that crashed carried the serial number MK356. The RAF only change the displayed serial number for reenactment purposes but they make it known the reason for the change. But, no the Spit was carrying her original markings.
Good morning Graham, very sad incident indeed. My sincere condolences to the family, friends & colleagues of the pilot, RIP & Fly High 😔🕯️🕊️ The crash site was so close to that home, so fortunately no other lives were lost!
The RAF are asking people not to speculate!! Your video isn't appropriate just now when a man has lost his life. I live in Coningsby & we have a huge black cloud over our village.
The process of analysis always begins with speculation. A theory is proposed and then tested against known facts. As more info is gathered, more scenarios are eliminated. No theory is too crazy if the facts support it.
This was a BBMF real spitfire . I'm a real world pilot and know what happened this has happened so many times before. Flying training teaches you right from the start engine failure just after taking off land straight ahead no other options . Sadly it's happened again.
I agree, unless you have a plan, the procedure I was taught was 45 degrees MAX either side of the nose and pick a spot. It is called the dead mans turn for a reason.
Hi Graham, how sad! This is a nightmare situation and I do send condolences to his family and friends. The Spitfire was always well thought of especially during battle of Britain. Hope Fiona enjoying her sleepin. Have a great day❤
I noticed the aircraft was in desert camo'. But, did it serve in the desert in WW2 ? Some say it was s MK 9 others a Mark 5 (different fuel system). If it had been in the desert, it is notoriously difficult to get every last grain of sand/grit out of the systems (even if you fit new tanks). On the piloting side, a golden rule is when low and slow never to try to turn back. Use a visual arc approx. 30 degrees either side of heading and look for somewhere to put it down. Get rid of as much drag as possible but don't try to 'stretch' the glide. No doubt he had his reasons for his chosen attempt. RIP....
I very much appreciate your knowledge and insight into the various aircraft. It’s a terrible loss for all concerned and our prayers go out to the pilots family.The P51 D has a special place in my heart along with the Spitfires of all versions. Coming from very near Manston I have many wonderful memories of watching air shows there and also saw Concorde land there back in the day. Thanks Graham, really enjoy listening to you. Love to Fiona 😉
@@jillmansfield3843 Sorry, that may be true, but I see it as a wider picture than that. Unqualified speculation sprawled over the Internet is intrusive to the family and goes against what was asked for. No further comment should be necessary.
Poor Charles church suffered the power loss in his spitfire. All sounds very familiar. I believe he had an oil covered canopy which made a field landing impossible.
@@BaronFlyingClub I agree and a clairvoyant you may be, however, you might want to show a degree of respect and sympathy towards the feelings of the family at this time. That is all I have to say.
@@jillmansfield3843 Why don't you ask the airforce if they teach with VR? As for the Spitfire crash the aircraft was clearly defective. We can rule out is was shot down by a German fighter, or the pilot was texting a friend.
Of course they don't want to comment, they supplied a defective aircraft that got someone killed. I would imagine the Family will get a huge payout, but you know how it is they will string it out for 40 years until everyone dies of old age.
Totally wrong Nick. I will be proved right (probably) at the end of the inquiry by which time we will all have forgotten about it. These dangerous aircraft are based on a 1930's design and should remain grounded in museums.
Eye witness reports just after take off the aircraft turned right the wings began rocking a sign of a stall . It's happened so many times you are told during flight training right from the start engine failure just after taking off land straight. NO OTHER OPTIONS.Just after take off the speed is low and when you bank the stall speed increases without power you spin in.
@@Lonsome1223 The RAF are clearly responsible for the crash. As owners maintainers and operators I will wager 1 pound the outcome will be a defective aircraft. I have waded through numerous AAIB reports only to find that mainly state the obvious.
@@BaronFlyingClubJust after take off as was This case airspeed low close to the ground only one survivable option land straight ahead. During my flight training this was made clear. The temptation to turn back is strong .
Ok i just heard you mention you are definitely going to virtually fly the spitfire..... please post of my father and husband....thanks Graham 🍀🫶🌟🙏🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 very very sad news...im glad i heard about it from you😊
You would not get me up in a real one, seriously. They are death traps, They were chopped right after the war, The under cart was all wrong that is why there are so many accidents. But to be fair the Me109 was even worse.
The BBMF aircraft are not replicas, the Spit that crashed carried the serial number MK356. The RAF only change the displayed serial number for reenactment purposes but they make it known the reason for the change. But, no the Spit was carrying her original markings.
At 2:14 you say "I cant speculate" then spend the next 10 minutes doing exactly that.
Elementary Sherlock you must have been to university.
Good morning Graham, very sad incident indeed. My sincere condolences to the family, friends & colleagues of the pilot, RIP & Fly High 😔🕯️🕊️ The crash site was so close to that home, so fortunately no other lives were lost!
The RAF are asking people not to speculate!! Your video isn't appropriate just now when a man has lost his life. I live in Coningsby & we have a huge black cloud over our village.
They always ask people not to speculate. Even when it is this obvious.
@@PyroLukeUk Well you won't mind awfully if I block you.
The process of analysis always begins with speculation. A theory is proposed and then tested against known facts. As more info is gathered, more scenarios are eliminated.
No theory is too crazy if the facts support it.
That is so sad, I recall the awful crash a few years ago at Shoreham.
This was a BBMF real spitfire .
I'm a real world pilot and know what happened this has happened so many times before.
Flying training teaches you right from the start engine failure just after taking off land straight ahead no other options .
Sadly it's happened again.
I agree, unless you have a plan, the procedure I was taught was 45 degrees MAX either side of the nose and pick a spot. It is called the dead mans turn for a reason.
Hi Graham, how sad! This is a nightmare situation and I do send condolences to his family and friends. The Spitfire was always well thought of especially during battle of Britain. Hope Fiona enjoying her sleepin. Have a great day❤
I noticed the aircraft was in desert camo'. But, did it serve in the desert in WW2 ? Some say it was s MK 9 others a Mark 5 (different fuel system). If it had been in the desert, it is notoriously difficult to get every last grain of sand/grit out of the systems (even if you fit new tanks). On the piloting side, a golden rule is when low and slow never to try to turn back. Use a visual arc approx. 30 degrees either side of heading and look for somewhere to put it down. Get rid of as much drag as possible but don't try to 'stretch' the glide. No doubt he had his reasons for his chosen attempt. RIP....
Oh my goodness this is the first time I'm hearing about this awful crash.... thoughts are with the loved ones and everybody involved.... really sad 😢
I very much appreciate your knowledge and insight into the various aircraft. It’s a terrible loss for all concerned and our prayers go out to the pilots family.The P51 D has a special place in my heart along with the Spitfires of all versions. Coming from very near Manston I have many wonderful memories of watching air shows there and also saw Concorde land there back in the day. Thanks Graham, really enjoy listening to you. Love to Fiona 😉
I thought the RAF specifically requested not to speculate.
@@jillmansfield3843 Sorry, that may be true, but I see it as a wider picture than that. Unqualified speculation sprawled over the Internet is intrusive to the family and goes against what was asked for.
No further comment should be necessary.
Prayers for his family and friends. Such a tragedy.😥
Indeed very sad. RIP.
Poor Charles church suffered the power loss in his spitfire. All sounds very familiar. I believe he had an oil covered canopy which made a field landing impossible.
That was 1989, and yes that would make landing very tricky.
The RAF will not be offering any comment on this accident and nor should you, certainly not hearsay.👎👎👎
I don't take orders from the RAF. Especially when the RAF are responsible for everything to do with this crash.
@@BaronFlyingClub I agree and a clairvoyant you may be, however, you might want to show a degree of respect and sympathy towards the feelings of the family at this time. That is all I have to say.
@@jillmansfield3843 Why don't you ask the airforce if they teach with VR? As for the Spitfire crash the aircraft was clearly defective. We can rule out is was shot down by a German fighter, or the pilot was texting a friend.
Totally inappropriate comments.
Of course they don't want to comment, they supplied a defective aircraft that got someone killed. I would imagine the Family will get a huge payout, but you know how it is they will string it out for 40 years until everyone dies of old age.
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Waffle based on a news report in the Daily Mail. Nothing to see here until official inquiry complete.
Totally wrong Nick. I will be proved right (probably) at the end of the inquiry by which time we will all have forgotten about it. These dangerous aircraft are based on a 1930's design and should remain grounded in museums.
Eye witness reports just after take off the aircraft turned right the wings began rocking a sign of a stall .
It's happened so many times you are told during flight training right from the start engine failure just after taking off land straight. NO OTHER OPTIONS.Just after take off the speed is low and when you bank the stall speed increases without power you spin in.
Height and airspeed dictate what can be done.
@@Lonsome1223 The RAF are clearly responsible for the crash. As owners maintainers and operators I will wager 1 pound the outcome will be a defective aircraft. I have waded through numerous AAIB reports only to find that mainly state the obvious.
@@BaronFlyingClubJust after take off as was This case airspeed low close to the ground only one survivable option land straight ahead. During my flight training this was made clear.
The temptation to turn back is strong .
Trying to gain views from such a tragedy - where are your morals?!
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Ok i just heard you mention you are definitely going to virtually fly the spitfire..... please post of my father and husband....thanks Graham 🍀🫶🌟🙏🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 very very sad news...im glad i heard about it from you😊
You would not get me up in a real one, seriously. They are death traps, They were chopped right after the war, The under cart was all wrong that is why there are so many accidents. But to be fair the Me109 was even worse.
Absolute tosh mate.@@BaronFlyingClub