2019 BMW R1250R Review
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- 2019 BMW R1250R Review: The latest machine I've ridden to get the 1250 Boxer with Shift-Cam is this, the 2019 BMW R1250R. Having ridden the older R1200R a while back I wasn't especially looking forward to riding this but I was very pleasantly surprised by what a capable machine this is.....of all the bikes that I've ridden with the new power unit, this one surprised me most. Stick around and stay tuned for my first impressions review....
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Aaaaahhh yes Mr Flyer! This was the bike that changed everything for me. The S1000RR was in for service, & the salesman always reckoned I should buy the GS. He said "why don't you take a bike out while your waiting? Like the GS." I said no, I'm never going to buy a bike like that! (heh heh!) "So which one would you like? take your pick." I said the R 1200 R looks like a nice ride. I'm telling you, I've never had a smile on my face riding on a freeway before. I was gobsmacked at how much fun I had riding this bike. Yes I was wearing my sports bike blinkers on all the time back then, but this bike was a revelation to me! I just couldn't believe at how good it was to ride. It really changed everything about bikes for me. I cannot believe what it must be like now with a 1250 in it. And as the story goes, I got rid of the sports bike & own a naked bike & a GSA now!!!! Thank you R 1200 R. You're a beautiful thing. Cheers groover ;-)
Man this is like the ultimate bike to me. Highest of quality, awesome horsepower and massive low end torque, comfortable for long distance and simple enough for around town. Unique characterful engine and wicked technology.
Same - I test rode this bike yesterday, it is exceptional and rare these days that a bike does everything. Fun to ride, can tour and can commute with no issues! Love love love it!
I have just ordered a 2023 R1250 R Triple Black version with all the specs and the Akrapovic exhaust. Can't wait!!
Congratulations!
So who is the bike for? Me, shaft drive, high quality , comfortable, torquey engine with low enter of gravity , thanks for the question
Then why not get the RS?
@@lovelessissimo not a bad choice but the lean forward to the bars is not for me and the body work is not for me, but a great bike for someone else, that is why they make more than one I suppose
Just got an 07 f650 gs. Planning on getting a new bike next. Either an r1250 or a 1250 gs
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I’m so happy that BMW is now offering multiple seat heights including quite low on several of their models. I’m 5’1” so BMW used to be too tall on nearly all models. I really love this bike. If I can bring together enough 💵 I will buy one. Outstanding review as always!
Great review TMF. Was in a BMW shop and the R caught my eye in the HP colours. Looks a grown up bike for us older gentlemen.
This is a gentleman's ride. I love it... my favorite beemer at the moment. But I'd go for the green with full luggage. Wonderful bike.
nice looking bike for the mature rider who has done all the ...tearing around thinking they were barrie sheene...showing my age now....and just wants to take in the scenery and enjoy the ride.
Great video! I'm test riding one next week, now even more excited.
I am a naked bike fan and use my R1200R for big tours cause I don‘t feel ready for a GS. Love it. My Street Triple RS is for Race Track and short rides.
And that’s what I’ve been waiting for. Getting it as soon as it comes to US market. After riding the gs with the 1250 engine, I couldn’t sit still, telling everyone how great the all new boxer is. Said as soon as it comes out on the r12r I’ll be one of the first people to get to.
Yeah I'm quite smitten with this bike as well
So . . . did you ever purchase the R?
I once had a 2004 BMW R1150R Rockster. I think I had 85HP. Nice to see that they have upped the performance. Looks good too!
Always enjoy your reviews. Nice job
I keep coming back to this bike. Guess i better go and see my local dealer, and take one for a test ride..
The first Beamer that impressed me 😱.
Nice bike, and another good review (as usual, if I may say so).
👍👍👍.
Thanks for the review TMF. I bought the previous model R1200R a couple of years ago, and I've loved every day on it since. It's more of an all-rounder to me than the alternatives you mentioned, and the comfort and riding position were a big factor. That new Shift-Cam looks enticing though. Seems much smoother than the implementation on my bike. Might have to pop into the dealer and take one for a ride ...
Malcolm Jacobson - Typically if you are popping in for a test ride, you might want to be sure the gas tank is almost empty, don’t want to give the dealer too much gas when you trade with them. LOL
As always amazing review! Greats from Belgium!😁
Another fine review TMF. I always enjoy hearing your take on new bikes. You point out the same things that I find important. Cheers from Washington D.C.
Glad to hear it Dan - they are the things I look for if i was buying a new bike....
I've got 22,000 miles on a 2016 R1200R. It doesn't belong in the same conversation as super nakeds. It is a naked sport touring bike.
I've also got some time on a 2015 RS. The R, in my opinion, is much more fun than the RS. I'm really happy BMW gives us the boxer in a naked roadster. Not for everyone sure, but for me and my uses it is the perfect motorcycle.
Actually this 1250 has decent horsepower now, and more importantly MORE torque than any hooligan or super naked bike out there, so yes it can compete very well against super-nakeds. In fact, I often choose it over my super fun Super Duke R.
I’m riding a GS & love the Low CG. R1200LC, this could be my future bike, lower , less bulky but newer engine smoothness. So many pluses, hopefully it doesn’t get popular & prices could get cheaper 🤞🏽 Thanks for the review, you’re just great. Straight forward no hidden agendas🙏🏼
Thank you for posting. I own the 2004 version of the r, specifically the 1150r. Fair to say the bike is not great at any one thing, but it is very good at many things. I have taken trips all over the Western USA as well as spent a fair amount of time on the twisties here in CO. Love the bike.
For those who want a quick motorbike, without risking tearing their arms, on the other hand, it is fast enough to take us straight home to prison! And, it serves for every day, at the weekend and even for travel on vacation.
Great review, as always!
Cheers TMF, watched this video a few times now! Taking a test ride on one this week and it might replace my Bandit 1250... that can pull away from a standstill in 4th as it happens!
I recently had a 790 KTM and it was terrific. Interestingly the low fuel tanks have the same weight distribution advantage as my 2000 R1100R. The thing is it doesn’t like to cruise slowly along the beach road. It runs 1000 rpms higher than the BMW and roasts your butt riding slow. I turned the KTM back in and gained a renewed appreciation of why BMW boxers are the bikes for this old guy. It cruises slowly at 2000 rpm just fine and has decent pickup at 5000 rpm. I can accelerate on even the steepest hills with the torque. My mechanic offered to let me ride his 1250 but I’m afraid of weak sales resistance to upgrading to the modern boxer.
I have ticked the like button already as the bike looks simply gorgeous, I will look forward to enjoying your review later, a dream bike for me but maybe I need to get myself a ride..... :-)
This'd be my pick of the boxers. But was (also) underwhelmed a year ago by a r1200r loan bike. Having reassessed what a boxer is for and the step-up with the new shiftcam, time to look again. I've a s1000r - 5yo now - and love it. But despite best intentions always feel compelled to use that performance. A more general-purpose bike like this might be more appropriate. Useful review - thanks.
Signing me paperwork tomorrow for my R1250 GS HP - all your fault TMF - love your reviews - great channel
Well done and congratulations! You made a great choice I reckon!!
Smell of food from restaurants during a morning ride and reminding you of breakfast. Same here during my morning rides.
Finally, a BMW I quite like! I believe the one you were testing actually has a centre stand fitted. Thanks for another great review.
It does in deed - an optional extra!
Brilliant review Tmf I like this bike thanks danny
Great review sir, looks like a great bike! Another one for the bmw test list!
C'mon Chops give us a review! TMF and yourself give great reviews.
Great bike, perfect review, thanks.
I'd probably stare at the TFT the whole time if i ever got one haha.
Great review as always, very thorough!
Thank you for watching!
Very good review TMF, one for the future shortlist I think :)
One comment on the shiftcam. It doesn’t come on at certain revs but any depending on how far and how aggresively you turn the throttle. That’s why you can’t tell when it switches the profile of intake cam.
Really good observations about the switchgear. I totally agree.
Cheers Max, always good to hear from you....
Oh man, I am in love with that bike!
Great review of a beautiful bike. Awesome engineering 🤩 keep up the good work.
Thank you - will do!
Absolutely fantastic review TMF , exceptional. Well done and thank you. Neil Carrington
Thank you Neil!
Great review as normal, my next bike will be the R1250RS so looking forward to your review of this later on in the year.
Yes I'm looking forward to riding that too...more so now I've sampled this one.
Blimey. I do not recall you ever going that fast before!
Only in a straight line...
Check out his trackday video
@@guypritchard2451 😂🤣
This is the best selling model in Germany. They know something about the R that the rest of the world doesn’t. I still like the previous air/oil cooled R enough that I have often considered buying one. This one is obviously much faster and better handling.
Interesting - I didn't know that....
TheMissendenFlyer I cannot confirm that it’s true, but another UK based reviewer said it outsells all other boxer models in Germany, but that might have excluded the GS?
Nice and candid review. Congratulations.
I am confused whether to get this R1250R or F850gs. Maybe you can give an advice. My height is 170cm.
Great review, and I watched it all the way to the end unlike other people who want to get their comments on here first hahaha. From my perspective and in my review this bike is way faster than I expected and I recon so much more tractable than the usual 1000cc 4 Pot naked and therefore often quicker?? For me the cornering was sublime. Made my R1200GS feel sluggish when I swapped back. Cheers and keep them coming.
Yes 100% agree all round!
A sharp intake of breath from me as a car started to pull out on the left while you were happily chatting and playing with the screen display! Great bike but I’ll stick with the Ducati Monster 1200 R! Enjoy your flight and the Bank Holiday. Yours aye, Alan
me too
Mr. Flyer- A fine review of what seems to be a fine bike. I do wish that BMW could avoid the temptation of putting on all that electronic jazz though. I like real gauges and do not want a keyless ignition; the TFT screen and navigation system are lost on me. A lot of money could be saved by leaving off all the fancy gizmos. Harumph
Looks like a real tourer. Looks like it can take panniers. Just needs a small windscreen. Thanks again Sir........Sal : )
Buy an RT.
Another great review sir!! BMW have defiantly come on in leaps and bounds in the last 10 -15 years, I wouldn't of dreamed of having one, as I thought they were for boring old gits, or is it that I am getting old now !, anyhow, now if you have15+ grand to spend it would be difficult to choose which one, I had a GS for 2 years which was a fantastic machine, done everything very well, just a bit bulky in town, I like this bike but still prefer my 9RT ✌🏍
Have a 2020 great bike so far, strong motor.
Naked bikes are always the best looking. I've always loved the look of the R1XXXR, Speed/Street Triple, S1000R, Monster, etc. For me, the R1250R in HP paint may be the best looking of the bunch. However, if/when I buy a naked it'll likely be something else as I already have a Boxer powered beast in the garage and I'd like some variety. I'll definitely give one a test ride sometime though.
The torque figures are impressive !
The mark of a great bike is how hard it is to replace it! So many bikes to ride and so few years etc. I’ve got one of these and feel ready to swap but I just can’t find anything on two wheels that does everything so well, from hooligan to continental touring with such ease, fun and with amazing tech and build quality.
Yes - why change in that case!
Love all your videos - flying and bikes. You’re a man of many talents. May I ask what your profession was before you retired? Keep up the great vids!
Another reason to buy BMW now is the 3 year warranty on new bikes. Used to be just 2!
Aye, but they increased the prices accordingly.
Great review, i wonder what it would be like to put on the main stand ?
Overtaking on approach to a pedestrian crossing in Marlow? Naughty Mr Flyer...
Sorry Andy, couldn’t resist it!🤓
It is much more attractive than I expected. Nice! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I had a test ride on a 1200 R last year...loved it...very quick bit of kit...handled really well....easily specced up with panniers/tank bag for a bit of touring and maybe a screen of some sort....I have promised myself one at some point....maybe I should have just done it😅
Try the RS instead....... or wait for the new one.
I,ve had my R1200R nearly 2 years now and love it . The only gripe i,ve got is the indicator switch which dosn,t have a positive feel too it.Come on BMW sort it out.
Top vid TMF ,must say I quite like the sound of the engine plus very torquey ,but these bmw bikes can get pricey when it comes to service time .
been waiting for this :)
Always lusted after a R1200R before, too bad they are not selling the 1250 here. I went with a smaller bike as having two big Bmws in the garage wasn't going to be fun: what to ride today. Monster 821 has been a treat for me.
I was at a BMW dealer yesterday having the R9T serviced, so had some time to kill. Had a good look at the 1200R. Those massive water-cooled cylinders and all the "stuff" attached to them kill the looks of the bike for me. Great review by the way.
I figured the boxer engine and shaft drive was the option for riders that want high mileage reliability with relatively little maintenance, with outright performance being a lower priority. Same reason they've been used as engines for ultralights/trikes etc I imagine. A lot of the "new" generation of BMWs (ie models introduced after they reinvented the BMW Motorrad brand from 2003-2008, such as the smaller bikes and the S1000R/RR) don't seem to have quite that reputation for Teutonic over engineering.
TFT updates take up to 8 hours and has to be done at the BMW shop. Glad I have my big clocks and a simple LCD computer with simple buttons to change functions without scrolling through a screen. I'm sure this is bike is fun bike regardless. My Ford F-150 does over the air updates in my driveway on its screen, maybe BMW will have that tech someday.
I have one of these. Love the bike. 63 mpg. Genuine, as tested through tank fills.
Wow excellent
Another Fine Video my friend! Thank you, I really like this bike.
Glad you like it!
Still love this review... even though i bought one 2 years ago :)
TMF, have been thinking about your question regarding why someone would choose this over a S1000R... Personally, and coming from the S100XR (similar to the S1000R) what attracts me about the R1250R is the comfort/feel, the engine, and the overall manners of the bike. Much as I love the mental/bonkers engine of the S1000 series (especially in the S1000RR), as a daily ride it can become fatiguing when not downright excilarating. I guess its the same reason that I ddint go for one of the KTM or Aprilia super nakeds: the R1250R has more than enough power but is a much easier bike to get on with day to day, and much more versatile as you point out in your review. All lovely bikes just depends what you want and I think with the latest upgrade to the R1250R BMW have produced a winner.
Antonio Russell I currently ride a s1000r and love it! But also I am considering trading in for a r1250r
@@codysho5746 Go for it. I am loving my R1250R and not missing the S1000XR since making the change. Both excellent bikes but the 1250R is so much fun.
I haven't ridden either yet but am thinking about them...the R1250r has more torque than the s1000r, if I'm not mistaken. So that could mean more practical power. The 1250 has closed the gap a bit compared with the 1200. So I guess it's torque vs high end power.
The only thing holding me back really is the lack of a proper twin sound.
Lovely looking bike, I could almost be tempted back to a naked!
Very nice looking bit of kit. Big Beemer fan here but what on earth is that horrific carbuncle in front of the tft screen. Man alive, they left the design of that until 5pm on a Friday didn't they!
Good Morning! Keep up the great work!
Will try my best!
Lovely bike to ride, really surprised me.
This roadster is meant to appeal to the naked touring market. With excellent pannier set up. There is a very small “touring” windscreen available that I have repeatedly tested at high speed that kept windblast off the chest area and directed to the arm vents of the BMW jacket. Best convertable out there.
Agree 100%
One of me dream biks, mate!!
There's just something about this bike. I'm not sure what it is, but it makes me keep coming back to this video. I'm not really a larger displacement, muscle/naked bike guy, but this one seems to have something special. I think it's one of those "the total is greater than the sum of its parts" kind of deals. Anywho, awesome bike, and awesome video! 🤙
Thanks!
Hi Slim, This is a great bike and not enough reviews of this machine out on TH-cam. I’ve just had the MOT done in mine - have the same model that Mr Flyer test rode. After all the great bikes I have tried out, I still love coming back to my R1250R Sport.
All the best and when your out next… Ride Safe !
@@TheWrittleRider Wow. I am genuinely envious. It just seems to me like it would have all of the brutal fun of a naked muscle bike, but with the BMW polish and engineering. I mean, that sounds pretty close to perfect to me!
@@SlimRhyno Yes to that and so much more!
Check out my 1 year review of ownership video on my channel if you have not seen it yet to get a more in depth point of view.
It just does everything so well, with very little fuss.
I’ve been out on a lot of bikes this past 2 years and it still stands up against all of them!
@@TheWrittleRider I will absolutely do that! Thanks for letting me know!
Happy Easter TMF! 🐥 Had discounted this bike before ever having ridden it. Until this review! Have been to the BMW site and it looks superb in black. Time for a test drive I think! (GS rider)
Agree :)
...I really liked it (as you can tell)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer how very dare you saying the R1200R is boring! It's the same engine as the GS and a far better road bike ~ really like mine as you can tell ;-p
The old boring R1200R as you called it is a far more exciting bike than your old GS. Strange thing to say! Why do GS riders never nod BTW? Snooty old men mostly.
You missed the s1000r from the list of naked alternatives. Can't wait to see the new s1000r with shift cam and TFT goodies! Hoping for next year....
I don't normally have a lot of praise for BMWs but, yeah I like this one. Love the colors, sound, and your riding position. Same height as you so the fit is probably good. Darn I can't argue with you on BMW...You win again but who cares!
Cheers Jerry!
I could feel my right wrist twisting and the hair on the back of my neck rising in excitement, the crisp morning air and the gourmet cuisine from the hotel in my nostrils. Nice review.
Never really liked the styling of this bike, but with this new motor I might not give a damn about the looks with a ridiculous looking grin on my face. Having said that, the HP doesn’t look half bad.
How would you rate those Michelins? Personally, I found all Michelin tires to be really good, but noisy whether on a car or bike. Went back to the Tourance Next tires on my GS and the reduction in noise from the Anakee 3s is massive.
Useful tip, if you ever get the opportunity to ride a factory option lowered GS, do. I was pleasantly surprised despite having no issue reaching the ground on the standard. You still get the great leg room but with a lowered center of gravity it handles as if on rails in the twisties and one dirt roads. Quite frankly, anyone with no intention of taking their GS on technical off road terrain should definitely at least test one before ordering their new bike.
...actually I have ridden the lowered GS...I wasn't sensitive enough to notice much difference!
TMF, It feels great in the R1250GS Rallye as well, not typically like a traditional Boxer and I've been mightily impressed since I've had mine, and I'm generally a stalwart Japanese motorcycle fan, but I've never been a "snob" about whatever a good motorcycle is, in the manufacturer stakes....If it's good it's good, that's it!
Great review TMF. Strikes me as a Gentlemen’s Express more than a hooligan. Unfortunately dropped from the US lineup for 2019. I wonder if the Satnav mount would interfere with a tank bag.
Have a happy Easter.
Peace!
In the US, we get the 2020 model...
Hey TMF, nice review, can’t wait to test ride the new r1250r, I’ve got a 2015 r1200r, and I love it. The 1250 should be better than the 1200, because the liquid cooled 1200 is far superior to the air cooled 1150, technology tends to do that.
I think calling these bikes a super naked is a bit misleading and that’s not what they are, they’re a roadster, a do all bike that does it very well, commute, tour, twisties, 2-up and limited dirt roads. All bikes are a compromise if you want them to do multiple roles, the r1200r just does everything better than most.
Who are they for? Well since most GS’s never see a dirt road, and these bikes can do everything a GS can do (sometimes better IMHO) except off road, that’s the market, people like me that love the boxer engine, shaft-drive and comfort that don’t like wearing adventure gear to the cafe😎
I had the oil cooled R1200R and would agree it’s more of a roadster. It is a great all around bike. I also have a R1200GSA and it’s not as sporty as the R1200R. But with two bikes with the same engine, I switched my R1200R for a true super naked, the S1000R. If you have only one bike and don’t plan on doing any adventure riding, the R1200R series is a nice option.
Super naked is the perfect title. Everything else compromises or tries to be just one thing
Great up market commuter bike,thks.
A nice R90s style cockpit fairing would not go amiss.
I was considering the RS, but the riding position would be punishing in no time.The R is just right.Thanks TMF.👍🏻👍🏻
No problem 👍
I had one as a loaner when my XR was being fixed, it’s a surprisingly nice bike and also surprisingly petite for a 1200cc. I don’t think it would make a good tourer though due to lack of wind protection (without fitting a huge, ugly screen)
Had the R1200R and the S1000R when I worked for bmw fs. R1200R was my favourite of the two, even if the S1000R was the first bike I power wheelied through the gears. 🤙
I was about to comment "never mind the Tuono and Super Duke, why would you get this over the S100R?", maybe you can help... What was it about the R that made you prefer it over the S?
NooBiker for me it is the character of the boxer engine. An in line 4 is super smooth but for me lacks that character. The lumpy thump and the huge torque of the boxer engine outweighs any outright power advantage of the S. Also they’re quite rare, so you don’t bump into every Tom, Dick and Harry with an opinion on them! Tbf I did like the S, I just preferred the R. My opinion only though, try them both, then you’ll know for yourself.
NooBiker I should probably add I have a Monster 821 now. And I love that too! For me a twin wins!
Great review again TMF, The old 1200R was a fast bike so the 1250 must be mental fast for a naked bike.
Yes it surprised me - very quick for a Boxer bike....
Nice review!
105.47 ft-lb torque, I can't relate to newton meters, I wish they would leave these standards alone. I guess it looks better as a higher number, It's like Kilobytes vs kilobits, I got used to kilobytes now I have to do the X8 math in my head just so I can relate.
Date, time and temperature would be a nice addition to your videos.
I think you buy these types of nakeds because you like torque, stability, comfort and easy speed..it´s appealing to those too young for the RT, not GS-enough for a GS and are past the wrist-happy (arse-clenching) other high-performance nakeds. I like it!
Just fantastic. I adore that bike and would love to have a go. Might get to the BMW dealer and have a rip on that bike.
I think you'll be impressed Scott!
Definitely my favourite of the boxer engined bikes. Unintimidating in height /weight and the lack of wind protection makes you feel at one with the environment while physics stop you riding at jail time speeds. I would take one over a GS any day.
Fair do’s
Even better is having both :D Use either depending on the roads your hitting
@@tbonesixtynine True👍
@@tbonesixtynineNo uk GS owner EVER takes their GGS of road 😂
Hi Andy, you wondered who this bike might be for, if BMW also have the S1000R in the range. Well it was a toss-up between this and the S1000R back in 2019 and I chose the S1000R. It was mainly about the lower all up weight of the 1000 and the higher power output! After about 16 months, I've found that the S1000R gets a bit flighty when you are pushing on with high speed weaves and many owners including myself have not been able to dial that out of the bike. The 1250R felt unflappable when I test rode it and I miss that sense of security!
Also, the midrange is a bit soft on the S1000 (unsurprisingly perhaps) and the 1250 feels a good bit stronger where you want it on the road. Then you have shaft drive, the TFT screen goodness and the boxer engine, which for me sounds more appealing! The 1250R has more character about it, so now I'm thinking about going the other way 😊
Interesting Rikky, but I can understand all that.....
I love the new TFT displays, I have a Duke 390 and it was a major factor in my decision to buy it. I can honestly say the BMW offering could well tempt me and I won't even look at a bike without one now (well, maybe a Triumph Bobber lol).
I wonder how they will hold up long term?? I still think I prefer proper clocks on retro styled bikes...but modern bikes like this, fair enough...
I absolutely loved the "old" R1200R so if this one is so much better, it must be really good! Thanks! :-)
It is a huge improvement - you'll love it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer ...and now I'm here again, a year later...I just can't leave the thought about it. I guess it's time for a testride!
Great review and a great bike, although it would be hard to justify layingout over $27000 on road for one here in Australia.
I love this bike. I do wish the radiator cowls and the belly pan was painted like the rest of the bike. I get it. It matches the color down the middle of the tank.
Yes I rather like the tank colour scheme - I should have mentioned that....
Just to reiterate what TMF says regarding this bike and something he didn't mention (or I missed it)? This bike is EXCELLENT at all day two up riding so thats where it wins over the S1000R, tourno, SDR and the triumph. Test rode one last week and this thing is wanting to pull your arms out of the sockets. The looks are not the best however way better than the previous models. Just need aftermarket screen manufacturers to make a decent screen that doesn't look hideous!
Looking forward to you reviewing the 1250 RS think that could be the sweet spot in the range the perfect road tourer / one bike, Got a feeling this engine was made for that set up
Yes I'm really looking forward to that too...
I had a test ride on the old r1200r absolutely loved the bike. The gs has an issue of being a posh old mans bike (not having a go) saying that all bmws do. In my heart I'm still 20 years old thin with a full head of hair
In my heart (and head) I’m neither posh or particularly old!