It’s funny that I came across this video… because I made the switch from an XH2S, XT4, and X100v to a Sony A7IV. I certainly agree with a lot of what you said, specifically about the XH2S EVF and noise. But man… maybe I use my cameras differently than you. While the XH2S is by far Fujifilm’s best APSC camera in virtually every category, especially AF; I felt it didn’t come even remotely close to the A7IV in the autofocus department. It’s nowhere near as sticky, it jumps all the time, it doesn’t acquire at further distances, it will often say the eye is acquired only to find out it’s not (I had so many photos where the focus was slightly behind the subject when using eye AF), etc. The gap only seemed widened with some of the latest GM lenses such as the 70-200 GMII and 50 1.4; even when compared against the Fuji red badges and latest LM 18, 33, etc. Don’t get me wrong, the Fuji XH2S eye/face AF was good. But man, like you said… the Sony A7IV is just voodoo. I just can’t ever see myself picking up the XH2S over the A7IV for professional portrait work (or even to shoot my kids). What’s crazy is, the A7IV is one of Sony’s worst modern cameras when it comes to AF and calculations (A7RV, A1, A9II/A9III, etc). With that said, I do miss a lot about the XH2S. I do miss the Fujifilm colors for my personal stuff. I really miss the stacked sensor and readout speed; so much so, that I am considering picking up a Sony A1 to fill that void (plus I have other excuses to get one). And for a time, I really missed the XH2S’s video features, specifically the ability to shoot ProRes internal and 6.2K open-gate. I never got the chance to test out RAW external, which is probably a good thing since I’m using my A7IV with a Ninja now… and it probably would feel lackluster. Anyways, thought I’d share my experience as well. You honestly can’t go wrong either way. That’s the nice thing about being alive right now, so many great camera/lens choices!
Maybe I didn't say it right.. I don't focus/recompose but I do let the camera grab the eye and then compose. I guess I could just compose and let the camera get the eye.. it should.. but I am just used to making sure it has the eye and 'helping' it before composing.
When you mention (at 24:21) that 16-55 f2.8 is not "a bag of primes" you are so right. I have been telling this to ppl for years. This lens is good, but it is heavy and images are just ok. Nothing can beat the looks of 35mm f1.4 or 56mm f1.2 primes. Nice and honest review btw, great job !
Thank you for your comment. I am familiar with Fuji primes and have been using the 16-55 for a few weeks now. Great lens but not a mind-blowing lens…not primes. I did some research.. well, Lenstip.com did the testing and if you look at their sharpness/resolution results for the Fuji 16-55 and 16-80 many would be surprised at the results. I know sharpness isn’t everything.. but looking objectively at their results it’s like the 16-80 hangs right in there with the 16-55 and the 80mm is gravy (while not being as bad as rest of the focal range.)
@@TCinSoCal I tested almost every prime in Fuji lineup in a quest to find my perfect "travel lens" and ended up with Sigma's new 30mm f1.4 prime. Light, compact, very fast and accurate AF, nice focal length, excellent image quality with bokeh next to original Fuji 35mm lens and it has very good price. I do not even miss the aperture ring as much I as I thought I would.
Yeah, the 16-55 does beat out the 24-105 f/4, but it's nothing amazing like the 18/23 f1.4 LM versions. Also, at what cost? No OIS, short range, heavy, bulky. Even the 24-70 GMii is about the same weight. Fuji needs to refresh their entire line-up. A 10-24 f/2.8, 16-55 mk2, and 50-140 mk2. The Tamron 17-70 is a much better buy even though it might not be as sharp on the extreme long/wide ends.
Thank you. Your info was EXACTLY the content I've been looking for. Straightforward, and to the point. The pet autofocus hasn't really been addressed well until your video. My X-H2S will arrive in a few days. Now to sell my X-T4.
Thank you for your comment. I’m glad it helped. I have a video on buying/selling used gear. I use Reddit Photomarket a lot but do take precautions. Glad to help if I can.
I've noticed that "grain-like" noise of Fuji in older bodies as well. It's monochromatic and not digital looking noise both in photos and video modes compared to any other brand. I think it has to be the X-trans sensor being bette with detail.
Shutter sound by default is boosted by additional sound in X-H2S and I was shocked why it is so loud compared to X-T4 ;) after disabling this it’s really quiet.
I have the X-T4 and want better low light shooting. I had almost decided on the Sony A7 IV, until this video. Initially I was torn between upgrading to the X-T5, for the better processor/ more mega pixels while keeping the retro dials. But I would love to keep Fuji for my many lenses I already own. I will spend the money for better low light quality photos, but if it's not worth it, I'd rather keep my Fuji lenses and upgrade to the X-T5, X-H2, or H-2S. Could you give me you thoughts on that? I know this video explains a lot, I just need a little more push.
I’m not sure know light/higher ISO images will be better with X-T5/X-H2. Likely more noise with that sensor. X-H2S will possibly be better.. AF significantly better.
What I heard, the XT-4 has the best low light fo all the Fuji cameras. The XT-5 and XH2 are worse in low-light due to the 40MP, and the Xh2-s is slightly worse doe to the stacked sensor. So the XT-4 is still the best low light camera from Fujifilm. Nowadays with Lightroom AI, Topaz or DXO pure Raw 3 the noise problem should not be anymore, they reduce noise so smooth, that you won't even need a full-frame-camera nowadays
You make great points! And i ordered the xh2s! Question: do you really not think the xf16-55 is a bag of primes? Have you tried the sigma 18'50? Super curious to know your lens prefrences. I have the xf33 and the xf23. But i only take one on my family outings, and always wish i would have brought the other one!!! So mayeb a zoom might help.
You are going to love the X-H2S. Interesting that you bring up the Fuji 16-55 and ‘bag of primes’.. I have been pretty hard on this lens and it does not match the IQ of the new 1.4 lenses.. but I think I have been too harsh on it.. when I go back and look at some of my images with the X-H2S and 16-55 I find some VERY good and VERY sharp images. I will say that the 16-55 would be a PERFECT lens for Fuji to announce a Mark II for. I think I would buy it.. My lenses. I have the 14 2.8, 18 1.4 WR, 27 2.8 (OG and WR), and 33 1.4 WR. I kind of need a tele like the 70-300. I am selling the 14 as I don’t need it with the 18.. I am horrible at wide angle. You are so right on the 33/23.. some days my 33 is too tight and some days my 27 is too wide… I will never be without the 27 2.8 as I think it is the most ‘fun’ lens Fuji makes. AF isn’t great.. AF sounds like a rusty robot.. but it is just so fun.
Nice real world comparison. Sounds like the X-H2s is a great fit for your use case of primarily photography. But those of us who shoot primarily video, Sony offers the more reliable AF in video mode from what I’ve seen. I’ve been a long time Fuji guy too, but bought the A74 recently. Your commentary on the colors is spot on - it’s taken me about a month with the Sony to get the colors right for my taste. Totally unrelated, but I’d recommend investing in some new audio gear if you plan on continuing adding content. Lots of room echo and volume was much too low. Lots of inexpensive options out there that would step up the audio quality. Great work!!
Thank you for the comment and feedback. The hardest thing is finding a spot to make these videos. It’s rarely quiet indoors and never outside. I’m using the little Rode Wireless Go but had it sitting on a water bottle instead of wearing. I’ll work on that for sure. I appreciate the help. You are right in that I’m 95% stills. I’m clueless when it comes to video.
The XH2S crushes the A7IV in video specs: 6K, 4K120p, ProRes, low rolling shutter, open gate & no overheating. It's really a video beast, for stills though I prefer full-frame.
@@fotomaton7852 Specs and autofocus performance are 2 completely different things unfortunately ! I read different reviews stating the autofocus is far far from perfect….
@@gilcarag274 I am not saying the video AF is on par with Sony, surely it is not but AF isn't everything and overall for video the XH2S has the better specs. For pros that is. Amateurs may value other things like AF performance and SOOC IQ.
I had the a7iv and a7siii, now I have xh2s and xt4... and I can tell you that in video the AF level on the xh2s is similar to Sony. The only thing the xh2s lacks is tap tracking (when you want the AF to track a point you tap on the screen). But for the rest it is similar. At the moment I mainly use sigma prime lenses and the AF is really good. So With the new fuji lenses, the AF will be even better.
Thanks for the video. I currently shoot with an XT4. As someone shooting more and more sports (mountain biking and jumping), the speed the stacked sensor allows is what appeals to me in the XH2S. To get a stacked sensor in full frame, it’ll cost $6k just for the body. If money were no object, sure. I think the people that say “for the price of the XH2S, I can get a full frame…” don’t understand why the XH2S would be more appealing than a $2.5k full frame. There’s much more to choosing a tool than sensor size.
Yes, you can change it to EVF only or LCD only.. but then for shooting and menus you are all LCD/EVF. I guess it's only a few presses to switch between if it REALLY bothers me/anyone.
Maybe A7IV is noisier because of higher pixel density => smaller pixel area. But A7IV has the latest sensor technology from Sony, so I would call it a draw in term of noise.
I was a Sony A7iii shooter that thought about switching to Fuji, but I decided to upgrade to A7iv and I am pleased with the improvements. My grape with Fuji is that they haven't sorted out their lens and AF yet and there are not many 3rd party lenses to augment their deficiencies which is not the case with Sony! Sony only lacks a few exotic Canon RF lenses and 15-35/2.8. Besides that they're very much a complete package. AS a hybrid shooter who shoots real estate and events, Sony covered my situation competently.
I have a question to you! Thanks for the comparison first and foremost. When shooting my Sony A7iv in very dark environments above iso 6400, i get white dots in the shadows. The iso noise looks like stars at night. When trying to shoot with the lens cap on at 6400 or 12800 iso, I get shocking amounts of white dots everywhere in the image when zooming in a little. Is yours the same?
@@TCinSoCal Not long exposures at all. 1/100 for example. It's apparent in all situations. Those white dots in dark areas are killing me and I don't know if my camera is defect...
I have all the ‘fake’ sounds turned off. The shutter I’m showing is this EF.. electronic front curtain and full mechanical examples. The EF is just the sound of the rear curtain. The mechanical is the front and rear curtain sound. I don’t think the video/mic does this comparison justice. The Sony is noticeably louder than the Fuji. A subjective thing for sure.
@@TCinSoCal hmm ok maybe I can’t hear certain frequencies on my mech shutter but sounds amazing to me in person. I just wish Fuji used the same kind of joystick as Sony
The X-H2S is definitely a game changer for Fuji imo. For years they're far behind Canon and Sony in the AF department, and this camera just changed everything. One more thing I think worth mentioning is how great Fuji's new lines of lenses are. I own a xf56 1.2 wr and gosh it's one of the best lenses I've ever owned. I feel like on a FF system it will cost you at least double the price point to have a lense this good.
See you mention the Z6ii - do you feel that's inferior to both these cameras? Curious, because I'm on X-T3 and thinking about moving to FF - then X-H2 came along..
@@btpaulen I am 95% photos. Very little video. I wish I could answer your question on AF between X-H2S & X-H2 but I haven’t used the X-H2. I’ve read it’s very close but I don’t know how close.
@@btpaulen the S has a stacked sensor so it would seem it would be better at readout/tracking but I’m guessing. Hopefully someone here can stress-test them.
Looks like I’m jumping from canon to the xh2s had a test on sat with birds in flight with an adapted 150-600 canon firt sigma and blown away. I was expecting much worse than the canon but no. Also what a buffer. No real rolling shutter. Loved it made me grin.
MY 7D Mk2 is due to be replaced, it's been great, still is but the time has come. The R7 was such a disapointment in almost every way - poor weather sealing, tiny buffer, no CF card, Old 90D sensor, rolling shutter. The X-H2S or the X-H2 could be an option
@@tankivulture148 not that I noticed on my test I was just very impressed. 80-90% focus on the eye in a burst straight out of the box. I’ve used r5 and this compares very well.
I can confirm your noise comparison. I bought an A7IV on release - I sold it 4 weeks after due to the extra poor noise pattern / structure above ISO 1600.
Warning: long comment and questions. Thanks in advance for reading. Thank you for your thoughts, I found them to be insightful, especially the shutter sound comparison! I stumbled across your video after debating whether I should upgrade from my X-T4 to an X-H2s (instead of to an X-T4), then maybe to an A7IV instead. I’m an enthusiast shooter, basically your cliche dad with new balance sneakers and a camera. I got into photography when I became a new father and enjoy the process. What drew me to the Fuji ecosystem was the dials, and the ease of pre-visualizing your exposure through the use of the top dials. I mostly shoot candid shots indoors and basically all family events. While I enjoy using the dials, I learned over a recent 2 week family trip that I found I started to prefer setting my exposure through the X-T4’s command dials instead of the top dials (I.e. I’ve locked the top dials to “C” and “T”). I guess I’ve evolved? I still however much prefer a physical aperture ring and not sure I’d enjoy setting aperture values through a command dial. My questions to you sir is why use a camera body in the X-T form factor if you’re going to disregard the the top dials? If disregarding the top dials, would I then prefer an X-H2s? What’s also compelling about the X-H2s are its advancements in eye autofocus. My hit rate of in focus shots with my moving toddler on the X-T4 is lackluster, and static adults are a basically a non-issue. Given the x-H2s’ price tag of $2,500, I began to wonder if the Sony A7IV would be the more “practical” buy? My Fuji lens collection is all native with 16-55 2.8, 55-200 var aperture, and 33 1.4. With Sony, I was eying the Sigma 28-70 given its size and price but unsure of it given lack of aperture ring. Not sure what is comparable in Sony for compact tele zoom for travel. Primes I’m eyeing the 35mm 1.8 and using that in crop mode to replicate a 50M prime. I think all this is to say is it worth the hassle of switching systems given the transaction costs of unloading lenses, etc. would you say I’m just overthinking it all and should just stick to the X-T4, even if I’m using the command dials? I read in the other comments that you ultimately went back to the A7IV given the ergonomics. Should I just stick to the ergonomics that I know now and stop questioning my life? I’m pretty happy with image quality, etc. just curious about the improved eye AF hit rate is all. This is my first real camera so I don’t have any experience with other brands. Thank you happy new year!
My latest shooting session in a marathon race, my X-T5 failed me with 80% soft-focus pictures when I turned the Face ON & Eye ON. With Face ON & Eye OFF, the rate is 69.1% in perfect focus. That's my experience for your concern about improved eye AF hit rate. So to answer your question. The XH2s comes with a stacked sensor, and it is overkill for shooting your toddler. So I suggest you try to turn the Eye Tracking OFF on your XT4 and test it again. I also shoot with A7C. The fullframe world is a trap for your budget. You can find the cheap Sony 50mm f1.8 and think: "well, that ƒ1.8 will give me a noise performance like f1.2 in Fuji". It does, but the thing you don't know is the Sony 50mm f1.8 focus is quite slow, like the 56f1.2. To take advantages of the Sony AF, you need some G lenses, or GM lenses. You may end up with only one body and one lense, because you cannot afford anything else.
I personally have never been able to get the quality/consistency of in-focus shots of my family/action from any X-T line body. I love them.. but I have given up trusting them for moving/eye detect type shots. The X-H2S will absolutely be more successful at getting these action/eye detect shots in focus...none will be perfect. IMO, the hit-rate of the X-H2S and the A7IV will be basically the same... that is from my use of both of these bodies with zoom and prime lenses. You already have VERY good Fuji glass with the 16-55 and 33 1.4. If you HAVE to have the BEST AF for action/eye detect with Fuji then the X-H2S is your body IMO. The A7IV is just as good.. but then you will need glass. I would avoid the 55 1.8 Zeiss and 35 1.8 Zeiss with Sony. There are better options. Honestly, before I spent any significant $ I would try some different settings with your current setup to see if you can get a better hit rate. I know that with my kids I used to try and stick to A Priority but learned I needed to stick to a much higher SS to get shots that didn't have blur from them moving. You can set this in your Fuji Auto-ISO settings. Start at 1/250 and then see how low you can go without blur. If you truly need tracking then you may have to upgrade.. or maybe someone reading this can offer some tips for better results with tracking AF with Fuji. IMO, the X-H2S broke the Fuji CAF barrier.. and most other Fuji bodies just don't lend themselves to success with CAF.
Hey thanks for that amazing realworld review. I really appreciate it! Maybe you can help me choose the right camera for me. I'm a hobby enthusiast hybrid shooter so I earn no money with it. At the moment I'm using the A6400 and have a few lenses for it. I have no general complains against that camera but I want do dive deeper into that hobby and I'm not sure if Sony APSC is the system to stay. So I'm thinking about switching to Fuji APSC or Sony FF for the long run. In that case Fuji XH2s or Sony A7 IV. On the photo side I'm doing all kind of stuff but mostly street (also at night)/travel, fashion and dance photography for video I'm using it a lot for talking head videos and sometimes for dance videos. Have you any good tips for me or need more information to maybe help me? General I overthink that decision a lot since weeks :D In fear of buying the wrong system. Also low light shooting is getting me nervous if the APSC is good enough for it :D. The whole world is screaming you'll have to buy FF :D... Thanks !
Thank you for your comment. My advice would be to 'map out' what lenses you would buy/use for your these purposes. The A7IV and X-H2S are both amazing cameras with amazing AF and could handle what you have described. Just know that if you need faster glass 2.8 or below.. you will be spending good bit of $$. For street at night you could get away with a prime such as the Fuji 33 1.4, Fuji 35 f2 or the Sony 50mm 2.5. I don't like the Sony Zeiss 55mm 1.8 as it had more LoCA than I am OK with when shooting it open. Also, Lenstip.com rates the 50 2.5 better than the 55 1.8.. and if under 2.5 has LoCA.. why bother with the 55 IMO?? I am FAR from an expert on video but if in well-lit conditions I would think you could use one of the better zooms such as the Fuji 16-55 or Sony 24-105 f4 or 24-70 2.8 ($$). For travel.. for me.. it is all about going not heavy and not big. My 'travel' setup would be the 24-105 and maybe a prime in addition to the X100V. I am also trying out the Ricoh GR IIIx and love it.. but it isn't as 'durable' or WR like the X100V can be. Low light is different these days in that if you are shooting static subjects (cool diner with neon lights) you don't have to have FF if you have good IBIS. Now if things are moving and low-light.. that costs $$. You cannot go wrong, objectively, with either the A7IV or the X-H2S.. but I would map out your lens plan before pulling any triggers. Cheers!
Nice video. I also have the X-H2S and I use the Tamron 17-70mm 2.8. That lens is fantastic that makes a all round, run and gun lens and I went full handheld I my last event with it and it performed excellently well.
@@AsuquoTravelsProductions Did you use the 16-55 or 16-80 prior to going with the Tamron? The 16-55 is just too much of a brick for me and I was willing to give up some ‘magical IQ’ for less weight and more reach. I am curious how the Tamron compares to the Fuji 16-80 if you have used them both… or if anyone else reading this has. I have a Tamron 17-28 for the A7IV that i am selling and I have been impressed with it.. as I do not often use third-party lenses.
@@TCinSoCal I have never used those Fuji lenses. I have the Sony A7SIII and A7IV and use the Tamron 17-28 and 28-75, so I know how universally the Tamron system works. They are a work beast plus they are light too.
If I re-try Sony I’ll definitely check it out. Have you used it? If I went back to Fuji I think I would go X-H2 or X-T5 as I don’t need the hyper fast fps of the X-H2S and want tad more resolution. A7IV 33MP is a pretty sweet spot.
I bought it from a a guy who wrapped it. The entire thing was wrapped. I was removing the wrap but liked the top being green so left that part on. Alphagvrd is the skin company.
Thanks for the video. I tried to switch to Sony 3 times with Sony a73 , then a7r4 and A9 and always came back to canon. Now using canon R5. But due to expensive rf glass was thinking to try Sony again. Do you think this time Sony is worth the shot when it comes to skin tones. I also have Fuji xh2s in mind because if stacked sensor . I have respect of stacked sensors how good they are when I use to own Sony a9. They are really awesome. Can you guide me on this? Thankyou
Stacked sensors are great for fast shooting but I found I do very little of that. I’ve since gone back to the A7IV as I just love the ergonomics of it. The A7RV is very tempting since the AF is extremely good and can ‘downsample’ resolution when needed.. but it’s $$$. R5 is an amazing camera. If you like the colors for long-term might be worth staying. All 2.8 or faster glass is pretty expensive across systems IMO.
I went with the A7IV now and will sell my XT-4, the autofocus was just so frustrating to deal with, especially in low light. Sure, you can make it work but you always have to fiddle with settings or double-check. I also think it makes more sense to go with the Sony because their size is almost identical but one is full frame. I still liked the Fuji but it doesn't make sense for me to keep two systems.
I think the X-H2S is an AF improvement over the X-T4.. either way.. you can’t go wrong with the A7IV or the X-H2S. Both amazing cameras. If I had more hands, time, and $ I might have kept the A7IV as I truly enjoyed it.
@@TCinSoCal I went with fuji becasue the new xf33 and xf23 lenses are so good, and to get an equivalent in full frame you'd have to go really big...I'm hoping the new XT5 will have the H2s autofocus becasue the I love the xt4 form factor, though the autofocus can be lacking sometimes.
Currently on an XT4. I have been waiting to decide whether or not I wanted to purchase an XT5 or XH2. However, there is definitely a part of me that wants to go to full frame. Partly for the more reliable auto focus. Definitely lost quite a few shots because they were too soft and unusable. However, another issue is that the RAF files from Fuji are a pain in the ass to edit in anything except Capture One. I feel like this Sony format will allow me to use Photoshop/Lightroom and even my Luminar subscription instead of having to pay the high price for Capture One. After making the switch away from Fuji and to the A7IV, do you have any regrets? I currently have an 18-55, 55-200, 23 f/2, 35 f/2, and 50 f/2. Just don’t want to go through the pain in the ass of selling everything and buying into another system and less it’s going to be worth the trouble. That’s why I was asking about your experience.
@@RazeTheWeak The XT5 is suppose to have imporved autofocus...But using a full frame camera also means using those full frame lenses which are much bigger and more 3 times as expensive
Very good point. I’ve owned the 35 f2 and it’s a LOT of performance in a small package. I tested with the 33 1.4 and it’s great but not nearly as small. 35 f2 is a badass lens.
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this is a fantastic video. I am just starting with a real camera (kid photos, vacation, and trying to be creative...). I have a Fuji XS-10, i love it, but I am frustrated about how many unique moments and great emotions I missed with a poor focus. And when I give the camera to my wife so that she can take photos of me, it's even more difficult. would you upgrade to XH2-S? still very happy about AF a month after the video ? is the XH2-S much clunkier than XS-10?
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i forgot to ask. when there are multiple people in the frame. how easy, is it to tell the camera which one is the subject? does the XH2S keep tracking that person even if people move around? or does it jump around?
Several things here. First, the X-H2S is definitely more bulky than the X-S10. I have tried the X-S10 as well. Before switching try a few things… first try shooting in Shutter Priority at 1/250+.. as much as you can get away with without ISO breaking 3200. I used to try and take pics of my boys in A mode and found that I needed faster SS. Another option is to be in A priority but set one of your Auto ISO settings to max ISO 3200 and minimum shutter speed of 1/250. Also, use Continuous AF mode with a zone focusing set of squares with Face detect on. I think the X-S10 has the same AF as the X-T4 so it’s pretty good. Regarding switching subjects.. I never did that. I shoot using back button focus in AF-C so I would just release my finger from focus and then put the focus on the other subject then hold focus. You can do BBF with the X-S10 but the button is really small. I would try my first suggestion. The X-S10 is definitely better in the AF realm than the X-S10. It’s cheat mode in how well it grabs eyes/face but it could be more camera than you want/need as it is a beefy camera. Ironically, I have switched back to the Sony. I think the colors from the Fuji are slightly better but I just missed the ergonomics of the A7IV. That is so weird for me to say. The more I shot with the X-H2S the more I just couldn’t get my fingers to work the way they did on the Sony. I also could not find a walk around zoom lens that I liked as much as the Sony 24-105… and yes, I tried the 16-55. I often take shots of the same landscapes near our house and, to me, the detail I get from the A7IV and the Sony 24-105 was besting the Fuji… but it really came down to ergonomics. I have an X100V so I can always use that to get Fuji colors when I want them. Oh.. and in your menu setting. Set the AF mode to ‘All”.. by doing that when you turn the focus square to green you can use the rear command dial to go through all the AF area selections. You can easily go from single point to the Zone for the images of your family. Let me know how it goes.
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@@TCinSoCal Thank you for all your insights. I shoot mostly in A Priority mode, and try to make sure SS doesn't get too low, but maybe I should increase that even further (I was keeping it at 100min). I also use also BBF and mostly continuous AF with Zone (with BBF, I can do single focus by releasing the button). My kid mostly looks down at whatever he plays with, and the moments where he looks up are fast - looks like it's too fast for the camera to grab the eye and focus 🙂even with the 33mm lens which is fast. I don't make it easy because I shoot often quite open , so the depth of field is quite shallow.
@@TCinSoCal so back to the a7iv? I work with a fuji x-t4 doing photos and videos. The 30min recording limit is bothering me and I need a 2nd camera for video at least but it makes sense to get one that can do video and photo really good. Maybe I'll get a used panasonic s5 for video where I can use MF on a tripod. But then again AF is not working reliably, in the S5 and the camera feels not as snappy. So maybe it's better to decide between the xh2s and a7iv. I wish there would be a xt5s with the same sensor as in xh2s but same ergonomics as on x-t4 so it would match 100%.
@@eatsimplefood Yes. I love the ergonomics of the A7IV. I can switch so quickly between eye detect being on/off as well as cycle through human/animal/bird. This is a lot of my shooting. I am not a pro but just couldn’t find a Fuji setup that matched the A7IV/24-105 in output/AF/weight. Both are amazing. The eye tracking of both are superb.
Nice review, I really thought you'd say you're Sony was much better especially with regards noise, very interesting. I love Fujifilm but intrigued by Sony I've gone to full frame with Nikon thinking my pictures would be better, they weren't so I went to Fuji and my pictures improved for me, I just loved photography again and on a crop sensor I just love the colours of my XT3. I would love to try the XH2S but I do love the dials.... Would I miss them...?
You said love a lot regarding Fuji. Sounds like you’re good. I actually left the X-H2S to go back to the A7IV. I missed the ergonomics of the Sony. I do have an X100V for Fuji colors.. also love them.
Great video! You’re interests in photography are definitely in line with mine (95% family and travel). I bought a Sony A7iv for same reasons as you, eye autofocus, but I’m looking at possibly selling and buying a Fuji body, either X-H2S or X-T4. I did have 2 questions on what you were talking about in regards to colors and noise. I also notice and don’t like how my Sony tends to make everything orange when indoors (drives my wife crazy). We’re you saying you that the Fuji is better in that scenario and doesn’t make your kids orange? Second question, another reason I went Sony initially was low light performance, and you peaked my interest when talking about the low light performance of the Fuji. Just to clarify, were you saying you get the same useable high ISO with the Fuji as you do with The Sony? Or did you just mean you like the noise Fuji makes when compared to the Sony? Because if the Fuji can get close to the high ISO performance of the full frame Sony, then that would be a huge plus to me as well. Basically, I want to switch to Fuji as I prefer their colors and overall size of the system with lenses, etc. but the eye autofocus and low light is what pulled me to initially to Sony (Sounds like the X-H2S addressed both of those concerns, even over the X-T4, right). Which is why I found your video very helpful, thanks!
Whew. Great questions. I may need a keyboard.. we are on vacation in Utah but it’s early morning. First, I would not want to be the guy that tells you to switch… it’s expensive. One option is to buy the Fuji used with a good return policy to test it. That’s what I often do. Second, I don’t think the eye AF/stickiness is as good with the X-T4. The H2S is a significant step up. It matches the A7IV (I’m using the new lenses..but have used 16-55 and will be testing with 16-80 soon. Gotta run.. will answer rest later.
Back from breakfast... noise.. note that I rarely shoot above 6400 and try not to go above 3200. FF is supposed to blow away crop sensor with noise but IMO it’s so close these days. I did feel that the noise structure of the Fuji was more appealing. Hard to describe but less ‘electric’. Note, I turn NR all the way off with my Fuji bodies as I prefer Fuji noise to ANY NR smearing. I can always apply a little NR in edits if needed. The orange look.. Kids game room is notorious for this. The Fuji handles the WB better and is easier to get back to a good/great WB/color IMO. I’ve found the Fuji sim Pro Neg Standard very good for this. I just tested and used PNS & reduced color temp and was happy with the colors. Note with kids, having a faster lens is crucial for indoors. Even f2 over f4 can allow you to up the SS without having to go crazy high with ISO. I TRY to use A priority for images of my kids but I’ve found they are even moving slightly when ‘not moving’. I often go S Priority to freeze them. One option to stay in A priority is to set the min SS to 1/200 or higher in one of the Auto-ISO settings. Fuji gives you 3. I never set ISO. I live in my 3 Auto-ISO modes and tweak as needed. You could even set one of the C1-C7 banks to an ‘indoor kids’ setting. I need to check to see if Auto-ISO settings change with C banks or if they apply across all C banks. Hope this helps.
@@TCinSoCal wow, thanks for the quick reply. Yes this is very helpful. If I get the Fuji I will definitely try the pro neg standard. And yea, I live in aperture priority for most of my shots as well. I love having auto iso/min ss. I forgot Fuji has 3 auto iso options, that’s good to know. I prefer primes at the moment so looking at those new 1.4s and the f2s. Thanks again! And I hope you enjoy your vacation.
Thank you. The new 1.4 lenses are so $$$ it’s hard to say they are REALLY worth it over the f2 lenses. The f2 lenses are so good and can be found for around $300 used.
Nice honest review and comparison. I think every system and brand has its pros and cons, just choose the one that you enjoy the most and suits your style. I got my XH2s a couple weeks ago, I already had an XT4 and also a Canon R6 system, so I have plenty lenses for both systems. But lately I have hardly picked up my R6 at all I reluctantly take it along on some wedding gigs but honestly the images when editing thru Capture one just don’t thrill me that much especially it being a FF sensor I was expecting more. In a lot of ways I prefer editing the Fuji raw files more especially the XH2s the images seem about half a stop brighter then XT4 but still about half a stop darker then the R6 when using exactly same exposure settings under same lighting conditions. So I even noticed the colour on the XH2s in extreme low light having slightly more colour fidelity then the XT4 and very comparable to the R6 although the XH2s I preferred the colour science better. I seriously believe these days with all the newest models since 2019, when it comes to specs we’re splitting hairs, for me it comes down to a few things mainly because of the type of work I do, number one is skin tones, colour science and ergonomics. and Fuji seems to do amazing in all those 3 areas for me. Doesn’t mean other brands are poor, it’s just my preference. Now that AF is a lot more reliable with the XH2s it’s going to be hard for me to keep my Canon system because that was the main reason I still kept onto it.
Such great comments. Thank you. Funny you say that about X-H2S exposure. I feel like exposure compensation was not something I used a lot with past Fuji bodies but I am down up to a stop quite often with the X-H2S. You are so right on how close things are between systems these days. I think that’s great as we can likely we pick gear we feel and not lose too much in the way of tech.
I am about to get my XH2s rental in and I am looking at replacing my Canon R6 with it. I photograph weddings too so I would love some real world feedback on how the Fuji did in the autofocus department? Also, any input on getting the H2 instead? I heard the autofocus isnt as good as the s. But I'd like a resolution bump. Thanks Elias!
@@thewildblake622 I find the XH2s resolution and detail more then enough for weddings and even corporate portraits. Basically I haven’t had any issue at all printing up to 20x30 inch. I have also done some wall signage head shots for a real estate company and they came out great. When it comes to AF for me the XH2s is up there with the R6 it’s better in low light, however in good light The Canon R6 is a fraction more stickier with the eye/face detect. to be honest there both amazing and more similar the different when it comes to AF. I hope that helps
@@eliaspap8708 That was exactly what I was looking for! I just didnt want to feel like it was a downgrade in reference to autofocus / image quality. Thank you.
@@thewildblake622 I forgot to mention low light noise, if that’s important to you? The R6 has a definite advantage when going beyond 3200 iso, the noise or lack of is about a stop better then the XH2s. That’s probably the biggest difference between the 2 systems.
Really enjoy the style of this. Time stamps would be helpful so I can skip to the part I was most curious about. I appreciate the info, earned my subscription.
@@TCinSoCal I think just add the title of the section followed by 4:22 (the time that it happens) in the description and youtube will pick that up and automatically do it for you.
@@TCinSoCal it is a well known fact that full frame cameras have more dynamic range than crop sensor cameras. Why u chose a crop sensor camera?? Are u a wildlife/sports shooter primarily??
@@mahakaal9977 Thank you for your comment. I chose the Fuji because I enjoy shooting Fuji and the AF is just a tad below that of the A7IV IMO. I have never personally needed full-frame. In my time with several FF bodies (A7iii, Z6ii, and A7IV) I have not noticed any gains related to dynamic range in the way I shoot. I feel like I can pull/push shadows/exposure pretty closely between these two bodies. However, note that I actually like shadows and rarely try to pull all the light out of my entire image. I did some quick research on dynamic range for these two bodies and what I am finding is that the Fuji seems to do pretty well in comparison. I used a site called cined.com if you are interested in checking it out. Also note that I am not a always wide-open shooter so that benefit/advantage that comes from FF is a it lost on me.
Sometimes a load shutter is a good thing. I once took a photo of my cat. He looked at the camera when he heard the shutter. The second photo was really nice with him looking right at the camera.
I love Nikon and I am waiting for the Z6III to come, but love Fuji colors too, and this XH2-S is really a beast.. I am considering now what to do haha...
You can’t go wrong. Nikon & Fuji have the best colors IMO but Sony has gotten much better. If the things you are shooting aren’t moving you truly cannot go wrong.
Great video! Thanks so much for taking time to share your thoughts on these two systems. I'm strongly considering a switch to Fuji from my trusty Canon 5D IV kit. I've finally realized that my shooting needs are similar to yours - my primary goal is to capture family life and travel (95% still photos). It will be psychologically difficult to switch to an APS-C body, but your points about how well Fuji handles low-light and noise are just what I needed to hear. And I was a bit concerned about the A7 IV EVF - glad to hear that Fuji's is so much better. I think the X-H2S is a bit more than I need, but from what I'm reading about the anticipated specs of the X-H2, I think it may be the Goldilocks for my needs. One stupid question - which hand strap(s) do you recommend for Fuji? I've used the Peak Design Clutch with my Canon and really liked it, but I think having more of a wrist strap like yours will make me look less like a "pro" than I felt like I looked using the Canon. (I'm just a dadtographer...) Thanks again!
Thank you for your comment Mark. I was being a little hard on Sony for EVF but it really is worse than Nikon and Fuji. The Nikon Z6ii has a very good EVF but the X-H2S EVF is glorious. The X-H2S is more than I need as well but being a long-time Fuji shooter I had to try a Fuji body with competitive AF and I am glad I did. I will likely do another follow-up video but one thing I have found that I use with the X-H2S that I didn’t use on other bodies is the Electric Shutter or the Electric Front Curtain Shutter. I put the H2S in a mode that allows the camera to choose (I think EF below 1/200 then Mechanical, then ES.. ) and I like this as I have been shooting more ‘open’ with fast lenses lately. The black wrist strap I use is by Op-Tech and I like their products. It feels like wetsuit material and doesn’t stand out very much. One thing about the H2S is that it doesn’t come with metal rings for straps and it seems metal rings would possibly scratch the body. This is almost like being ‘forced’ to use Op-Tech/Peak type straps. Not a deal breaker for me but I did want to use a leather strap I have and will have to find a ‘solution’ if I want to do so.
Hi Mark, long time Fuji user here. For travel & kids / pets photography You may wanna try Fuji X-S10 also known as stripped down X-T4. It might suit you more since it is more compact and AF might satisfy your needs for less money. Of course, if money is no object - XH2s is a beast!
@@pojemario - Thanks for taking time to reply and I appreciate your recommendations. I've looked at both the X-T4 and X-S10 and they both seem very capable and would easily meet most of my needs (wants?). My impression of the different Fuji models may be a bit less-than-accurate, but it seems that the X-S10 is built similarly to Canon's consumer-grade bodies - at least as far as available buttons and dials (thinking the Rebel series). Coming from the Canon 5D IV, I see a huge value in having rich controls at my fingertips. It looks like the X-S10 is a bit watered down when it comes to the controls and some of the flagship-level features. My thought regarding the X-T4 is that it's last year's model. I usually try to buy the newest possible technology - right or wrong - because I prefer to keep electronics longer than many people. Even though it would be a great place to start, I think knowing that there's a newer (more powerful?) model would make me feel like I missed out. (First world problems, right?) The X-H2S was announced about the time I started seriously considering a system switch. I don't mind spending ~$2,500-$3,000 on a body. However, I will be very interested in seeing the specs of the X-H2 when it's hopefully announced in the next few months since I'll probably get more value from a slightly higher resolution than the faster framerate of the X-H2S. I'm aiming to have my next kit ready for a trip next June, so I may even hold my breath for a X-T5 announcement. Whatever I purchase, I plan to hang onto it for 5+ years. Thanks again for your reply and recommendations!
@@markjsc I completely understand you since I was a long time Canon 5DmkIV user, still have it, collecting dust. For work I switched to Canon R6, great camera, but this one is just a tool with no real passion I found only in Fuji cameras so far. Started with X-T30, just to have something for traveling that is not a mobile phone camera, to "feel" like a photographer while shooting. Long story short Fuji won me over completely, to the level that I traded in some of my old Canon gear for X-S10 and every since I got it I use it for PRO work too. Real estate, portraits, studio work (because X-S10 has tethering) and just love it, love it, love it. About XH2 that will be soon announced I have my doubts about the speed of the AF comparing to XH2s because XH2s has stacked sensor and this might be the fastest AF there is, non-stacked in XH2 might not have this performance, but we will soon see it. I wish you happy times with any future Fuji gear, I have tons of it - with great results ;)
@@pojemario That’s a great point about the stacked sensor with Autofocus. I thought the sensor was more about capture speed - I didn’t realize it had such an impact on autofocus too. If the X-H2 is significantly slower then I suppose the X-H2S will be my “one to beat”. Thanks again for your replies!
The noise is one reason I may move away from FF cameras for the first time ever. I've always used Canon but I don't even like going above 3200 whereas i've seen a Fuji at 10k and i'm not bothered by it. Fuji has a more pleasing filmic noise (which makes sense cuz it's Fuji and they have film sims too) and I love how film looks, whereas Canon/Sony/etc noise looks like video noise or as I like to refer to it as "confetti" noise. I may finally try Fuji cuz altho I lose a little bit of the ease in bokeh at times (or all the times since I always shoot wide open lol) I get those beautiful default starting points with film sims, the noise is infinitely more pleasing to where I almost want it in shots, and that 14 stops of dynamic range in video sounds amazing for video. Or I may wait for the XT5, also considering that.
I was never a FF person until trying Sony. For my type of shooting FF isn’t a significant leap. In some ways it was a step back in that I lost reach. ‘Confetti’ is a great way to describe the noise. Historically, I’ve not been a wide open shooter.. but I’ve been setting the X-H2S to EF/M/ES shutter selection and going wide open and having fun. It could just be me but I did have an issue trying to shoot my wife wide open with strong (sun) backlight.. it wanted to blow out the highlights.. could be the face detect ‘overpowering’ metering the scene. Fuji disables metering mode selection when face/eye detect is enabled. Seems ok until you have to note to turn it off. Also, Lightroom is missing many of the new film simulations for X-H2S. I, and others, have been bugging Fuji and Adobe about this. It’s like Adobe is using film simulations from the X-H1. Definitely some quirks to the X-H2S & I plan to do a video about what I’ve found.. one being the strap ring ‘hooks’. WTH?.. it’s like Fuji assumed we would use non-metal type strap attachments. Thank you for you comment.
Not too many people share your opinion. While I haven't tried the sony a7iv... none of the Fuji bodies can hold a candle next to cameras like sony fx3 or canon r6 when it comes to noise... they're just in a different league and it's not a matter of opinion. Not Haring Fuji's... love them but for different reasons.
@@loriolus What's not a matter of opinion is that the Fuji has *more* noise. What *is* a matter of opinion, is that most people prefer to see luminance noise over hue/ saturation noise, and Sony noise is full of garbage green and magenta noise whereas on Fuji it's monochromatic.
Great video man, lots of good points! I’ve also really liked the look of the Fuji noise. I’m so used to de-noising my canon files that I think I need to start maybe leaving some of them alone. I never thought about remapping my white balance button but also never use it so that’s a great idea. I also never knew about swipe gestures, something else good to know. If Fuji updates the options for customization through firmware, it’ll be so good!
I don’t change WB a lot.. and on some older Fuji bodies there was a mapping that led to me selecting WB & adding Red.. so now I map it where it’s a pain to get to. Thank you for you comments!
@@TCinSoCal it definitely makes sense. I’ve got the annoying top button set to turn off subject detect but it makes more sense to swap that with WB for sure!
Loud shutters bother me for some reason. I especially hate Canon shutters, those things clap. I got two X-H2S on the way, I’ve been shooting Fuji for a while, so the ergonomics are gonna have a little learning curve for me. I do love my dials. I think Fuji is gonna sell a ton of these cameras, the reviews have been rave with the exception of a few grumpy people and those that you can tell don’t give a crap about Fuji. This camera sweeps the floor with any other APSC camera out there.
The X-H2S shutter sound is so nice IMO. On ergonomics.. get ready.. the C banks that are normally in the Q menu are the C1-C7 banks on the MASP dial. I went to program a sim recipe in the Q menu & was like where are the C banks.. ohhhhh.. I also think a smallrig base will help as it’s actually smaller than I expected.
Regarding the X-H2s's EVF, a lot of images I take look sharp in the EVF but when checked are not in focus. This I hope can be fixed in firmware, because I think there is a delay in taking exposure, or back or front focus that don't show in the EVF. If, afterward, an image is unfocused, the focus system is defaulting somewhere. So far, against a Canon R6, the focus is behind the R6 with adapted EF lenses, but not but a huge margin, and it is the best focus system I have used in a Fujifilm and therefore the most usable Fujifilm camera for a wide variety of photography. Oh, and video colours and sharpness are amazing. Great review, but I just wanted to add that the discrepancy between EVF and post-shot reviewing likely is caused by camera mis-focus.
@@TCinSoCal It could be what you were describing where the image in the EVF looked sharp but on the iPad or iPhone it did not. That suggests mis-focus. I get quite a few cases of false focus confirmation.
@@guyprolly to be very certain, are you saying it would look in focus when shot or reviewed? My instance is it looks sharper at times on EVF playback than iPad/iPhone.
@@TCinSoCal Okay, I see what you mean. In playback, the EVF looks sharper than another viewing device in playback. Cheers. I mean when shooting, a thing looks in focus, or the box for eyes or face come up and the resulting shot is out of focus. I've not compared EVF playback against iPhone for sharpness. That is interesting. I used to shoot the Leica SL from 2015, which had the same EVF resolution. It blew my mind, but it wasn't quite as fluid as the X-H2s's, likely due to the stacked sensor and faster readout.
Thank you. Really great video. More review should copy your style. Fuji shooter for quite some time. Just got the HS2. Not yet put it through its paces…. But the improvement in autofocus capabilities is the key in my mind for the survivability of the Fuji X series and I believe they have done it. It is a bit expensive but I guess one pays also the price of the video capabilities. I now am looking forward to the 40MP sensor. Interesting times at Fuji. BTW I am curious to see what Fuji will do with the GFX system given these new technologies. I shoot GFX manly for my landscape work.
Thank you for your comment. You make a very good point as to the survivability of Fuji X. I, and others, left Fuji for better AF. I tried Nikon and ended up with Sony. I’ll take a Fuji with 90% of A7IV any day. Sony was a compromise on colors for me. I’d rather compromise for 90% of badass AF to get Fuji colors & experience back. Enjoy your H2S!
Which Fuji? I sold my XT3 because there is really no way to grip that thing. If you have a heavy lens on it then forget about it. I kept my XH1 bc of the grip. The XH2 looks good but I'm seeing other reviews say that it's still not up to par with Sony or canon. If that's the case I wont be getting it. The XT3 AF in video was worse than my Panasonic G9
Sir! I really enjoying watching your video, and just like you, I am a hobby photographer whose style is just like you, family man. I sold my Fujifilm X-H1 along with all Fuji lens to buy Sony A7R IV, now I still have it, but I really love Fuji lens especially Fujifilm 16-55mm F2.8, and I sold that fuji lens, too. Now I just preorder Fujifilm X-H2s, and I am still waiting for it. Before getting that camera, I just bought Fuji lens 16-55mm yesterday. Please tell me do I make the right choice, and do you have any complains about the Fujifilm X-H2s? Thank you for your time making this video.
Thank you for your kind comments. Looks like we followed a similar path from Fuji to Sony. I LOVED the X-H1 but we know it wasn’t the best for face/eye detect and accuracy. The A7RIV you are using is a resolution beast so your files will be more manageable with the H2S but do know you lose some resolution/cropping ability…but ‘lose’ is a relative term here as the sensors in the A7IV & X-H2S are more than enough for amazing sharp images. On the 16-55.. great lens but do note it’s sharpness peaks around f5.6 and falls off after f11 so I personally shoot landscape type (not professional) shots around f7.1. Complaints.. - I wish switching through static subject/face detect/animal detect was as ‘easy’ as the A7IV but I’ve got it mapped pretty good. - strap rings seem to force us to use non-metal type attachments (Peak, Op-Tech). - I feel like I need to remember to turn face detect off when I want non-person scene metering .. nothing major IMO I think you will be very happy. I think the body/lens combo you chose will do well for capturing the type shots we take. One note.. you may do this already but I’ve found that while I prefer A priority for taking shots of my boys I sometimes have to go to S priority around 1/250 or so to get sharper results because kids are never truly still. Thank you for your feedback and time. Cheers!
..one more comment try shooting the Fuji with NR set to -4 and sharpness to +1. Fuji noise isn’t ‘as bad’ IMO and I rather have some Fuji noise than possibly NR ‘smudging’.
I’ll caveat that I’m not a pro shooter but in my months of using the A7IV & weeks of testing the X-H2S up against it there were no real/significant areas where the Sony beat the Fuji.
Regarding noise, Fuji has the film grain soft pleasing noise at higher iso vs patchy Sony style? Other Vlogger is the one and only Casey from @cameraconspiracies who is mad funny
Fuji is making amazing progress. I’m going to stick to sony for a few more years so fuji can refresh there lens lineup for video. Currently there are just too few lenses with the new motors. But give them 2-3 years and with a new lens linup there going to be fire.
Why didn't you give the Nikon Z6II or Z7II a chance? They also have an excellent EVF, and they are great in ergonomics. Not to speak from their output in terms of image quality! And with the Nikkor Z 24-120 F4 S you also get an outstanding walk around lens too!
I used the Z6ii for quite a while. I think it produces the best ‘true’ colors right out of the gate. The eye detect/AF was not consistent enough for me. Had it been, I likely would still be using it. Looking back, I do prefer ergonomics of the A7IV & X-H2S over the Z6ii.
@@TCinSoCal Okay - a camera what is perfect in every respect doesn't exist yet ... but I love my Nikon Z6 (which feels better in my hands than the Sony A7IV) with the excellent Nikkors. But I do not photograph flying dogs 😂
I’m indifferent to the PASM dial. Every camera I’ve owned before Fuji had one. I can shoot my Fujis as if they have one. It’s just different. The Fuji 50F2.0 is an awesome lens also.
Thank you for your comment. I agree with you.. am indifferent to the PASM/MASP dial. I have not used them extensively but the memory banks seem really user-friendly. I have already mapped a Fuji recipe from FujiXWeekly to one of them. I have not owned the Fuji 50mm f2 but it has been VERY hard to not buy one. There have been a few listed on Reddit Photomarket for around $300. The Lenstip results for this lens are stunning.
I used to shoot Nikon too (all the way back to the D70) and am also now a "Fuji shooter". Mainly because nobody else makes pro APS-C cameras, and I'm a concert photographer and there's no way in hell I'm ever giving up APS-C again. (experimented with full frame on the D700) I'm waiting for the non-S X-H2 but it's been rough, been sitting with a triggerhappy finger resting on the buy button on the S for a while now. But I just know I'll get more value out of the 40MP sensor since my most used lens is the sharpest lens available on Fuji X mount (Samyang 135mm F2) and 8K video is nice for post-production crops and pans.
I would love the 40MP sensor but I can't give up the crazy AF.. AND I am 95% mobile (iPad/iPhone) for edits and the files from the X-H2S are already plenty to work with... never say never though. :)
You can sell some Sony lenses but keep the camera with one or two lenses to save money. It sounds like you like both camera, it's nothing wrong to keep both :)
I would love to keep both!! .. but to buy the Fuji lenses I want and break even I have to sell off the Sony gear. I also wouldn’t use a second $$ body enough to justify keeping it. Gonna let someone else enjoy it! Thank you for your comment.
@@TCinSoCal Yep, that was clear from your review. And FWIW I still have a Fuji Xt20 and a few lenses. I like Fuji too but AF has always been a frustration
@@pauldewar626 Fuji AF frustration is a real thing. I could say I’d test the AF of the X-H2S but I don’t think I bring anything to the table. The X-H2S will become my filming camera for videos like these as the X100V was defiantly a PITA.. but that isn’t the V’s forte either.
great to hear the Fuji is 95% of that AF performance, beeing the flagship and seeing its other capabilities thats a bit disappointing BUT its more than enough for most people i guess.
I was honestly surprised that the X-H2S did so well. I have used Fuji for a long time and CAF/tracking has never been a strong point for Fuji compared to competitors. I have now used several of these bodies in this price tier and all of them are so good even someone ‘new’ to photography can learn and do very well with them.
@@perryvalton4245 I was pretty shocked by his review honestly. Back in 2021, he did a video on the latest Fuji GFX body and was complimentary. The X-H2S build is so similar to the GXF. I am not saying it IS the GFX.. similar and well-built IMO. When he said the X-H2S is like the build of the X-T30 he lost me.
Fuji has a base ISO of 160, so in the same conditions you will be shooting two thirds of a stop higher ISO to get the same exposure. So 10000 ISO on Fuji = 6400 ISO on Sony (FF or APS-C, doesn't matter). So if you're comparing, let's say, the noise levels of 3200 ISO on Fuji to 3200 on Sony, you are giving the Fuji two thirds of a stop advantage. To make it fair you should be comparing 3200 ISO on Fuji to 2000 ISO on Sony.
Thank you for your comment. I get the ‘science’ but I shot them side by side for weeks. I let Sony pick it’s ISO up to 10,000. In the conditions I shoot the Fuji gave me better results. I don’t shoot to be FF equivalent. I shoot to ISO limits I’m comfortable with. The math can be right but I consistently preferred structure of Fuji noise/results. Over 6400 on either of them I prefer the Fuji. I know it’s subjective.
I think Sony updated the menu system with the A7IV. I have to admit that Sony settings/menus have frustrated me in the past but being honest the menu/settings with the A7IV is pretty intuitive and much better.
I have the an a7iv and xt3. The new menus on sony are very good. I cant even say that thy xt3 is easier to use anymore. Both have pros and cons but are overall equal.
@@ghostapi874 I got you. to be fair i never use a7iv or try new menu but for me fujifilm using direct name like H.265 MP4 not like sony xavc avchd and using p instread fps. that all i can say. sony is incidible camera if i have a chance to use a7iv i think it's will be good experience.
Finally - an unbiased review from a real-world enthusiast who is telling it like it is. Absolutely fantastic, thanks so much for your time! Quick question - have you ever tried out 16-80 f4, and what are your thoughts on it as a lighter, more practical travel version of 16-55mm?
Thank you! I don't review a lot of things but do when I feel like I can contribute.. especially versus just the run and gun .. got the camera to 'review' reviews. Since this review I have switched back to the A7IV... and the main reason being the ergonomics and a TAD more resolution. There are things I take shots of every day and I found the A7IV and 24-105 to be a bit sharper overall than my Fuji combos. I also wasn't using the crazy fast fps of the X-H2S. Both are amazing.. I just like the fit/layout of the A7IV better. I have used the 16-80 and I think it's a very good lens. If you look at the Lenstip.com reviews of the lens the 16-80 holds its own in resolution against the mighty 16-55 and is WAY lighter. I am actually selling a 16-80.. and likely would have sold it already if I wasn't 1000% honest.. as the lens does have mild zoom creep when over 23mm and held vertically facing down. It doesn't creep at slight angles.. just straight down... and not under 23mm. Oh well. someone will eventually grab it and enjoy it. For me, I didn't NEED 2.8 enough to justify the weight of the 16-55 over the 16-80.. and 56-80 was 'free'. Thank you for your comments.
Awesome comparison video. I just got my XH2-S and can't wait to use it for concert photography. The X100V works super well at concert photography and I can only imagine with the new AF algorithms/stacked sensor, the XH2-S will just kill it.
Personally, I'm sad to look at comparisons of pictures from FF cameras versus APS-C cameras (I have a 32-inch 4K 10-bit professional display). Here is a comparison video Sony A7IV vs Fuji X-H2S: th-cam.com/video/B0z5det6Gx0/w-d-xo.html. Only a blind person can fail to see the big difference in image clarity at 3:44 and the big difference in color reproduction at 4:04 of this video. No one can defeat physics - an elephant cannot jump like a squirrel. Both in the dynamic range and in noise, the FF will always be far ahead of the APS-C matrix. By God, I don’t understand why, for the same price, choose APS-C instead of FF. I watched a video comparing Sony A7 III and Sony A7 IV and there all these differences are barely distinguishable. The Fujifilm X-H2 with a 40-megapixel sensor has just come out and I am more than sure that the 33-megapixel Sony will be a cut above not only in terms of picture clarity, but also in all the indicators that I indicated above in this post. I'm sure that Sony A7 IV video in 4K will be sharper than 8K video on Fuji X-H2 with proper Sony settings.
Comparing cameras based on nothing more than sensor size is like comparing two cars based on nothing more than the size of the engine. There’s more to choosing a tool than the size of a sensor. For example, if you want high fps, the Sonys just don’t do it unless you spend almost $7k. That’s not to say Sonys are bad, just different tools for different needs.
The “image clarity” you are seeing there has nothing to do with the sensor size but the lenses used. The 24-70mm f2.8 GM II is one of the sharpest standard zoom lenses available on the market and it costs more than twice as much as the much older XF 16-55mm f2.8 on the Fuji. That is where the extra clarity is coming from.
I did think about not watching if you didnt run to the camera..lol..Anyway, I care less about brands and formats, and there's no proof anything is better than most when it comes to stills. I can see myself getting the Sony and the Fuji, because i am not so stuck on STOOPID i have to stick with brands/formats. I have the Pentax full frame for night shooting, lunar stuff,and excellent stills,Sony for video/stills, and Canon film cameras. There's room for everyone, and like you said, if a content creator does not like to be questioned, they are probably a twisted, self entitled diva..
Thank you for not requiring me to run! Agree 100% on stills not having a ton of differentiation across manufacturers. Both the Sony and Fuji are great. I am just stoked we have great options.. but also stoked Fuji stepped up their AF game. Cheers!!
@@TCinSoCal Cool,so for the next one,you can skip and do cartwheels to test the 'hopping AF' and then claim your Sony overheats and suffers from the mythical 'rolling shutter'. I saw this guy with the Sony waving the camera side to side and called it ' rolling shutter'.I was like who is doing that while filming with ANY camera? I like your channel because I find most of them comical although they actually believe their nonsense.
@@TCinSoCal Just a word about fake perception..I'm heavily into audio and studio gear,so in the industry,theres folks who call themselves audiophiles. So some of there people still think they hear better,know better,and are the gatekeepers of sound. So recently, a respected company Mobile Fidelity were caught LYING that some of their offerings were purely digital.So now,it's common knowledge that many of these people who claimed those recordings were better,now look STOOPID,because they were duped,while passing themselves off as experts. In other words,they swore up and down they could tell the difference,hear digital vs analog,and now they are exposed.So the same thing goes on in photography with people thinking their brand or format is better,just as good,etc,etc.
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It’s funny that I came across this video… because I made the switch from an XH2S, XT4, and X100v to a Sony A7IV. I certainly agree with a lot of what you said, specifically about the XH2S EVF and noise. But man… maybe I use my cameras differently than you. While the XH2S is by far Fujifilm’s best APSC camera in virtually every category, especially AF; I felt it didn’t come even remotely close to the A7IV in the autofocus department. It’s nowhere near as sticky, it jumps all the time, it doesn’t acquire at further distances, it will often say the eye is acquired only to find out it’s not (I had so many photos where the focus was slightly behind the subject when using eye AF), etc. The gap only seemed widened with some of the latest GM lenses such as the 70-200 GMII and 50 1.4; even when compared against the Fuji red badges and latest LM 18, 33, etc.
Don’t get me wrong, the Fuji XH2S eye/face AF was good. But man, like you said… the Sony A7IV is just voodoo. I just can’t ever see myself picking up the XH2S over the A7IV for professional portrait work (or even to shoot my kids). What’s crazy is, the A7IV is one of Sony’s worst modern cameras when it comes to AF and calculations (A7RV, A1, A9II/A9III, etc). With that said, I do miss a lot about the XH2S. I do miss the Fujifilm colors for my personal stuff. I really miss the stacked sensor and readout speed; so much so, that I am considering picking up a Sony A1 to fill that void (plus I have other excuses to get one). And for a time, I really missed the XH2S’s video features, specifically the ability to shoot ProRes internal and 6.2K open-gate. I never got the chance to test out RAW external, which is probably a good thing since I’m using my A7IV with a Ninja now… and it probably would feel lackluster.
Anyways, thought I’d share my experience as well. You honestly can’t go wrong either way. That’s the nice thing about being alive right now, so many great camera/lens choices!
Thank you!
Love the xh2s. Tamron 17 70, Sigma 10 18, viltrox 27, 75, 13 mm all Great lens and of course the fantastic Sigma 56 mm f 1.4
I didn't know any of the Sony lenses had aperture rings. How common is that?
I am not sure honestly. I do know I love the little 2.5 primes from Sony. True sleepers.
Best review video I have seen on the Fuji! so glad I found it!
Thank you for your kind comments ! Glad you found it as well.
I don't get the Focus on the eye and then recompose. Why not compose and let the camera focus on the eye while keeping the composition?
Maybe I didn't say it right.. I don't focus/recompose but I do let the camera grab the eye and then compose. I guess I could just compose and let the camera get the eye.. it should.. but I am just used to making sure it has the eye and 'helping' it before composing.
When you mention (at 24:21) that 16-55 f2.8 is not "a bag of primes" you are so right.
I have been telling this to ppl for years.
This lens is good, but it is heavy and images are just ok.
Nothing can beat the looks of 35mm f1.4 or 56mm f1.2 primes.
Nice and honest review btw, great job !
Thank you for your comment. I am familiar with Fuji primes and have been using the 16-55 for a few weeks now. Great lens but not a mind-blowing lens…not primes. I did some research.. well, Lenstip.com did the testing and if you look at their sharpness/resolution results for the Fuji 16-55 and 16-80 many would be surprised at the results. I know sharpness isn’t everything.. but looking objectively at their results it’s like the 16-80 hangs right in there with the 16-55 and the 80mm is gravy (while not being as bad as rest of the focal range.)
@@TCinSoCal I tested almost every prime in Fuji lineup in a quest to find my perfect "travel lens" and ended up with Sigma's new 30mm f1.4 prime.
Light, compact, very fast and accurate AF, nice focal length, excellent image quality with bokeh next to original Fuji 35mm lens and it has very good price.
I do not even miss the aperture ring as much I as I thought I would.
Yeah, the 16-55 does beat out the 24-105 f/4, but it's nothing amazing like the 18/23 f1.4 LM versions. Also, at what cost? No OIS, short range, heavy, bulky. Even the 24-70 GMii is about the same weight. Fuji needs to refresh their entire line-up. A 10-24 f/2.8, 16-55 mk2, and 50-140 mk2.
The Tamron 17-70 is a much better buy even though it might not be as sharp on the extreme long/wide ends.
Thank you. Your info was EXACTLY the content I've been looking for. Straightforward, and to the point. The pet autofocus hasn't really been addressed well until your video. My X-H2S will arrive in a few days. Now to sell my X-T4.
Thank you for your comment. I’m glad it helped. I have a video on buying/selling used gear. I use Reddit Photomarket a lot but do take precautions. Glad to help if I can.
Such an honest straightforward review, please keep 'em coming!
I've noticed that "grain-like" noise of Fuji in older bodies as well. It's monochromatic and not digital looking noise both in photos and video modes compared to any other brand. I think it has to be the X-trans sensor being bette with detail.
I sold my R6 and A7iv for the X H2s. It's a joy to shoot with Fuji. The other's were likes. The Fuji LOVE
So true. I know A7IV AF is more sticky than X-H2S. A7IV resolution is better than X-H2S. .. but X-H2S is so fun and like a Swiss Army Knife.
I did pretty much the same thing. I love my X-H2s
Im a bit late, but thank you for the comparison. I am looking at these two finalists and I have been hoping the Fuji is the winner. I think it is.
It’s truly neck and neck but I prefer the Fuji over Sony.
There is a setting to switch the LCD from turning off when you put a finger or your face in front of the EVF
Are you still with the xh2s? What kind of lenses have you acquired so far. I have 16-55 and the viltrox 75 1.2 and 70-300 for wildlife.
Now mainly using Nikon Zf. X-H2S still an amazing camera. 33 1.4, 27 2.8 & 70-300 were my main lenses.
Shutter sound by default is boosted by additional sound in X-H2S and I was shocked why it is so loud compared to X-T4 ;) after disabling this it’s really quiet.
I think I have the ‘fake’ sound turned off. I’ll check. It’s usually one of the first things I do.. silence the camera as much as possible.
I checked. I have all the ‘fake’ sounds turned off.
I have the X-T4 and want better low light shooting. I had almost decided on the Sony A7 IV, until this video. Initially I was torn between upgrading to the X-T5, for the better processor/ more mega pixels while keeping the retro dials. But I would love to keep Fuji for my many lenses I already own. I will spend the money for better low light quality photos, but if it's not worth it, I'd rather keep my Fuji lenses and upgrade to the X-T5, X-H2, or H-2S. Could you give me you thoughts on that? I know this video explains a lot, I just need a little more push.
I’m not sure know light/higher ISO images will be better with X-T5/X-H2. Likely more noise with that sensor. X-H2S will possibly be better.. AF significantly better.
What I heard, the XT-4 has the best low light fo all the Fuji cameras. The XT-5 and XH2 are worse in low-light due to the 40MP, and the Xh2-s is slightly worse doe to the stacked sensor.
So the XT-4 is still the best low light camera from Fujifilm.
Nowadays with Lightroom AI, Topaz or DXO pure Raw 3 the noise problem should not be anymore, they reduce noise so smooth, that you won't even need a full-frame-camera nowadays
You make great points! And i ordered the xh2s! Question: do you really not think the xf16-55 is a bag of primes? Have you tried the sigma 18'50? Super curious to know your lens prefrences. I have the xf33 and the xf23. But i only take one on my family outings, and always wish i would have brought the other one!!! So mayeb a zoom might help.
You are going to love the X-H2S. Interesting that you bring up the Fuji 16-55 and ‘bag of primes’.. I have been pretty hard on this lens and it does not match the IQ of the new 1.4 lenses.. but I think I have been too harsh on it.. when I go back and look at some of my images with the X-H2S and 16-55 I find some VERY good and VERY sharp images. I will say that the 16-55 would be a PERFECT lens for Fuji to announce a Mark II for. I think I would buy it.. My lenses. I have the 14 2.8, 18 1.4 WR, 27 2.8 (OG and WR), and 33 1.4 WR. I kind of need a tele like the 70-300. I am selling the 14 as I don’t need it with the 18.. I am horrible at wide angle. You are so right on the 33/23.. some days my 33 is too tight and some days my 27 is too wide… I will never be without the 27 2.8 as I think it is the most ‘fun’ lens Fuji makes. AF isn’t great.. AF sounds like a rusty robot.. but it is just so fun.
Nice real world comparison. Sounds like the X-H2s is a great fit for your use case of primarily photography. But those of us who shoot primarily video, Sony offers the more reliable AF in video mode from what I’ve seen. I’ve been a long time Fuji guy too, but bought the A74 recently. Your commentary on the colors is spot on - it’s taken me about a month with the Sony to get the colors right for my taste.
Totally unrelated, but I’d recommend investing in some new audio gear if you plan on continuing adding content. Lots of room echo and volume was much too low. Lots of inexpensive options out there that would step up the audio quality. Great work!!
Thank you for the comment and feedback. The hardest thing is finding a spot to make these videos. It’s rarely quiet indoors and never outside. I’m using the little Rode Wireless Go but had it sitting on a water bottle instead of wearing. I’ll work on that for sure. I appreciate the help. You are right in that I’m 95% stills. I’m clueless when it comes to video.
The XH2S crushes the A7IV in video specs: 6K, 4K120p, ProRes, low rolling shutter, open gate & no overheating. It's really a video beast, for stills though I prefer full-frame.
@@fotomaton7852 Specs and autofocus performance are 2 completely different things unfortunately ! I read different reviews stating the autofocus is far far from perfect….
@@gilcarag274 I am not saying the video AF is on par with Sony, surely it is not but AF isn't everything and overall for video the XH2S has the better specs. For pros that is. Amateurs may value other things like AF performance and SOOC IQ.
I had the a7iv and a7siii, now I have xh2s and xt4... and I can tell you that in video the AF level on the xh2s is similar to Sony. The only thing the xh2s lacks is tap tracking (when you want the AF to track a point you tap on the screen). But for the rest it is similar.
At the moment I mainly use sigma prime lenses and the AF is really good. So With the new fuji lenses, the AF will be even better.
Thanks for the video. I currently shoot with an XT4. As someone shooting more and more sports (mountain biking and jumping), the speed the stacked sensor allows is what appeals to me in the XH2S. To get a stacked sensor in full frame, it’ll cost $6k just for the body. If money were no object, sure. I think the people that say “for the price of the XH2S, I can get a full frame…” don’t understand why the XH2S would be more appealing than a $2.5k full frame. There’s much more to choosing a tool than sensor size.
IMO X-H2S would be amazing for MTB. Very good AF & crazy high burst. Also, better reach than FF when you can’t be in the perfect spot for shot.
@@TCinSoCal “But it’s not full frame!!!” 🙄
@@randyrundio7156 Right? Like the D500 isn’t full-frame. 😎
@@-_ch40s_ I agree. Camera companies have done a great job of selling something many don't know why they supposedly need.
Lovely video.. thanks for sharing all your opinions.
Sony shutter sound makes me nervous... too electric sound.
you can change Fuji evf setting, then it won't go off when it detects a subject (eye or hand) near it.
Yes, you can change it to EVF only or LCD only.. but then for shooting and menus you are all LCD/EVF. I guess it's only a few presses to switch between if it REALLY bothers me/anyone.
Great video. What about ISO noice in
Maybe A7IV is noisier because of higher pixel density => smaller pixel area. But A7IV has the latest sensor technology from Sony, so I would call it a draw in term of noise.
I think the A7IV is significantly better then the 3.
For fashion photography which one would you recommend? Since in fashion photography color plays important role.
I am not really the person when it comes to fashion photography but if I were hopping into that type of work today I would use a Sony or Nikon.
I was a Sony A7iii shooter that thought about switching to Fuji, but I decided to upgrade to A7iv and I am pleased with the improvements.
My grape with Fuji is that they haven't sorted out their lens and AF yet and there are not many 3rd party lenses to augment their deficiencies which is not the case with Sony! Sony only lacks a few exotic Canon RF lenses and 15-35/2.8. Besides that they're very much a complete package.
AS a hybrid shooter who shoots real estate and events, Sony covered my situation competently.
The A7IV is very good and phenomenal lens selection to choose from.
When you discuss "colors", do you mean you use the jpegs from the camera or do you open them in Lightroom or proprietary software of each brand?
JPEG
How did you record this on an X100V? Only way is with external recorder. Atomos? And how did you mic it?
No external recorder. I did use a mic. I think I sat it on my water bottle.
@@TCinSoCal Thanks for your response. How did you surpass the 10mins recording limit? Nice hack to put the mic on your water bottle :)
@@rlsgrs it’s a 15 minute limit and I ‘beat’ it by messing up before I hit that limit. 😎. Thank you for watching and sharing.
I have a question to you! Thanks for the comparison first and foremost. When shooting my Sony A7iv in very dark environments above iso 6400, i get white dots in the shadows. The iso noise looks like stars at night. When trying to shoot with the lens cap on at 6400 or 12800 iso, I get shocking amounts of white dots everywhere in the image when zooming in a little. Is yours the same?
How long are your exposures? This could be hot pixels.
@@TCinSoCal Not long exposures at all. 1/100 for example. It's apparent in all situations. Those white dots in dark areas are killing me and I don't know if my camera is defect...
that fuji shutter actually has a electronic noise to make it louder.. once you turn it off it sounds amazing.
I have all the ‘fake’ sounds turned off. The shutter I’m showing is this EF.. electronic front curtain and full mechanical examples. The EF is just the sound of the rear curtain. The mechanical is the front and rear curtain sound. I don’t think the video/mic does this comparison justice. The Sony is noticeably louder than the Fuji. A subjective thing for sure.
@@TCinSoCal hmm ok maybe I can’t hear certain frequencies on my mech shutter but sounds amazing to me in person.
I just wish Fuji used the same kind of joystick as Sony
@@robmcd The shutter does sound amazing… and I agree with you on the Sony joystick.
The X-H2S is definitely a game changer for Fuji imo. For years they're far behind Canon and Sony in the AF department, and this camera just changed everything.
One more thing I think worth mentioning is how great Fuji's new lines of lenses are. I own a xf56 1.2 wr and gosh it's one of the best lenses I've ever owned. I feel like on a FF system it will cost you at least double the price point to have a lense this good.
See you mention the Z6ii - do you feel that's inferior to both these cameras? Curious, because I'm on X-T3 and thinking about moving to FF - then X-H2 came along..
The AF & AF tracking of the Z6ii is inferior to the X-H2S & A7IV. Colors from the Nikon are great but AF can’t hang.
@@TCinSoCal I just do photography - not video. Does it make sense to go for the X-H2s anyway? Or just as well go for X-H2?
@@btpaulen I am 95% photos. Very little video. I wish I could answer your question on AF between X-H2S & X-H2 but I haven’t used the X-H2. I’ve read it’s very close but I don’t know how close.
@@TCinSoCal AF is allegedly equal on both cameras
@@btpaulen the S has a stacked sensor so it would seem it would be better at readout/tracking but I’m guessing. Hopefully someone here can stress-test them.
Looks like I’m jumping from canon to the xh2s had a test on sat with birds in flight with an adapted 150-600 canon firt sigma and blown away. I was expecting much worse than the canon but no. Also what a buffer. No real rolling shutter. Loved it made me grin.
MY 7D Mk2 is due to be replaced, it's been great, still is but the time has come. The R7 was such a disapointment in almost every way - poor weather sealing, tiny buffer, no CF card, Old 90D sensor, rolling shutter. The X-H2S or the X-H2 could be an option
That’s awesome to hear. BIF definitely takes skill and great AF.
Does IBIS fight with OIS?
@@doghouseriley4732 I was in the same boat
@@tankivulture148 not that I noticed on my test I was just very impressed. 80-90% focus on the eye in a burst straight out of the box. I’ve used r5 and this compares very well.
My question if you need go and add lumix s1h ? Fontoura think is better thank Sony and Fuji?
Hi, Thank you for the comment. I don’t have that camera. I mainly test gear I use consistently.
I can confirm your noise comparison. I bought an A7IV on release - I sold it 4 weeks after due to the extra poor noise pattern / structure above ISO 1600.
Thank you for sharing. Helps to hear you say that as it was really hard to describe.
I agree with XF 33 1.4 amazing lens. I also recommend XF 18 1.4 also really good lens.
I want to try that 18 1.4 so badly. May have to give in.
Just grabbed 18 1.4 on a whim. Just around the house shooting so far but WOW it’s sharp!!
Warning: long comment and questions. Thanks in advance for reading.
Thank you for your thoughts, I found them to be insightful, especially the shutter sound comparison!
I stumbled across your video after debating whether I should upgrade from my X-T4 to an X-H2s (instead of to an X-T4), then maybe to an A7IV instead.
I’m an enthusiast shooter, basically your cliche dad with new balance sneakers and a camera. I got into photography when I became a new father and enjoy the process. What drew me to the Fuji ecosystem was the dials, and the ease of pre-visualizing your exposure through the use of the top dials. I mostly shoot candid shots indoors and basically all family events.
While I enjoy using the dials, I learned over a recent 2 week family trip that I found I started to prefer setting my exposure through the X-T4’s command dials instead of the top dials (I.e. I’ve locked the top dials to “C” and “T”). I guess I’ve evolved? I still however much prefer a physical aperture ring and not sure I’d enjoy setting aperture values through a command dial.
My questions to you sir is why use a camera body in the X-T form factor if you’re going to disregard the the top dials? If disregarding the top dials, would I then prefer an X-H2s? What’s also compelling about the X-H2s are its advancements in eye autofocus. My hit rate of in focus shots with my moving toddler on the X-T4 is lackluster, and static adults are a basically a non-issue.
Given the x-H2s’ price tag of $2,500, I began to wonder if the Sony A7IV would be the more “practical” buy? My Fuji lens collection is all native with 16-55 2.8, 55-200 var aperture, and 33 1.4. With Sony, I was eying the Sigma 28-70 given its size and price but unsure of it given lack of aperture ring. Not sure what is comparable in Sony for compact tele zoom for travel. Primes I’m eyeing the 35mm 1.8 and using that in crop mode to replicate a 50M prime. I think all this is to say is it worth the hassle of switching systems given the transaction costs of unloading lenses, etc.
would you say I’m just overthinking it all and should just stick to the X-T4, even if I’m using the command dials? I read in the other comments that you ultimately went back to the A7IV given the ergonomics. Should I just stick to the ergonomics that I know now and stop questioning my life? I’m pretty happy with image quality, etc. just curious about the improved eye AF hit rate is all. This is my first real camera so I don’t have any experience with other brands. Thank you happy new year!
Need some time to sit down with a keyboard for this one. 😎 Thank you for sharing. I’ll try to reply soon.
My latest shooting session in a marathon race, my X-T5 failed me with 80% soft-focus pictures when I turned the Face ON & Eye ON. With Face ON & Eye OFF, the rate is 69.1% in perfect focus. That's my experience for your concern about improved eye AF hit rate.
So to answer your question. The XH2s comes with a stacked sensor, and it is overkill for shooting your toddler. So I suggest you try to turn the Eye Tracking OFF on your XT4 and test it again.
I also shoot with A7C. The fullframe world is a trap for your budget. You can find the cheap Sony 50mm f1.8 and think: "well, that ƒ1.8 will give me a noise performance like f1.2 in Fuji". It does, but the thing you don't know is the Sony 50mm f1.8 focus is quite slow, like the 56f1.2. To take advantages of the Sony AF, you need some G lenses, or GM lenses. You may end up with only one body and one lense, because you cannot afford anything else.
I personally have never been able to get the quality/consistency of in-focus shots of my family/action from any X-T line body. I love them.. but I have given up trusting them for moving/eye detect type shots. The X-H2S will absolutely be more successful at getting these action/eye detect shots in focus...none will be perfect. IMO, the hit-rate of the X-H2S and the A7IV will be basically the same... that is from my use of both of these bodies with zoom and prime lenses.
You already have VERY good Fuji glass with the 16-55 and 33 1.4. If you HAVE to have the BEST AF for action/eye detect with Fuji then the X-H2S is your body IMO. The A7IV is just as good.. but then you will need glass. I would avoid the 55 1.8 Zeiss and 35 1.8 Zeiss with Sony. There are better options.
Honestly, before I spent any significant $ I would try some different settings with your current setup to see if you can get a better hit rate. I know that with my kids I used to try and stick to A Priority but learned I needed to stick to a much higher SS to get shots that didn't have blur from them moving. You can set this in your Fuji Auto-ISO settings. Start at 1/250 and then see how low you can go without blur. If you truly need tracking then you may have to upgrade.. or maybe someone reading this can offer some tips for better results with tracking AF with Fuji.
IMO, the X-H2S broke the Fuji CAF barrier.. and most other Fuji bodies just don't lend themselves to success with CAF.
@@BaoLe-hk5wl Thanks for the reply, helpful insights.
@@TCinSoCal Thanks for the reply, helpful insights on the tweaking the AF Settings.
Hey thanks for that amazing realworld review. I really appreciate it!
Maybe you can help me choose the right camera for me. I'm a hobby enthusiast hybrid shooter so I earn no money with it. At the moment I'm using the A6400 and have a few lenses for it. I have no general complains against that camera but I want do dive deeper into that hobby and I'm not sure if Sony APSC is the system to stay. So I'm thinking about switching to Fuji APSC or Sony FF for the long run. In that case Fuji XH2s or Sony A7 IV. On the photo side I'm doing all kind of stuff but mostly street (also at night)/travel, fashion and dance photography for video I'm using it a lot for talking head videos and sometimes for dance videos. Have you any good tips for me or need more information to maybe help me? General I overthink that decision a lot since weeks :D In fear of buying the wrong system. Also low light shooting is getting me nervous if the APSC is good enough for it :D. The whole world is screaming you'll have to buy FF :D...
Thanks !
Thank you for your comment. My advice would be to 'map out' what lenses you would buy/use for your these purposes. The A7IV and X-H2S are both amazing cameras with amazing AF and could handle what you have described. Just know that if you need faster glass 2.8 or below.. you will be spending good bit of $$. For street at night you could get away with a prime such as the Fuji 33 1.4, Fuji 35 f2 or the Sony 50mm 2.5. I don't like the Sony Zeiss 55mm 1.8 as it had more LoCA than I am OK with when shooting it open. Also, Lenstip.com rates the 50 2.5 better than the 55 1.8.. and if under 2.5 has LoCA.. why bother with the 55 IMO??
I am FAR from an expert on video but if in well-lit conditions I would think you could use one of the better zooms such as the Fuji 16-55 or Sony 24-105 f4 or 24-70 2.8 ($$).
For travel.. for me.. it is all about going not heavy and not big. My 'travel' setup would be the 24-105 and maybe a prime in addition to the X100V. I am also trying out the Ricoh GR IIIx and love it.. but it isn't as 'durable' or WR like the X100V can be.
Low light is different these days in that if you are shooting static subjects (cool diner with neon lights) you don't have to have FF if you have good IBIS. Now if things are moving and low-light.. that costs $$.
You cannot go wrong, objectively, with either the A7IV or the X-H2S.. but I would map out your lens plan before pulling any triggers.
Cheers!
Thanks for the review and insights! Great video. The X-H2s looks like a great camera.
Thank you. It is a very good camera. The EVF is glorious.
Nice video. I also have the X-H2S and I use the Tamron 17-70mm 2.8. That lens is fantastic that makes a all round, run and gun lens and I went full handheld I my last event with it and it performed excellently well.
Thank you for this comment. I was not aware of that lens and will definitely check it out!
@@TCinSoCal You’re Welcome. Yes you should check out the Tamron, it was released a few weeks ago and as become my go to lens for my XH2S.
@@AsuquoTravelsProductions Did you use the 16-55 or 16-80 prior to going with the Tamron? The 16-55 is just too much of a brick for me and I was willing to give up some ‘magical IQ’ for less weight and more reach. I am curious how the Tamron compares to the Fuji 16-80 if you have used them both… or if anyone else reading this has. I have a Tamron 17-28 for the A7IV that i am selling and I have been impressed with it.. as I do not often use third-party lenses.
@@TCinSoCal I have never used those Fuji lenses. I have the Sony A7SIII and A7IV and use the Tamron 17-28 and 28-75, so I know how universally the Tamron system works. They are a work beast plus they are light too.
There is the tamron 17-70 f2.8 for fuji that’s equivalent to your 24-105 from sony if it is okay for you
If I re-try Sony I’ll definitely check it out. Have you used it? If I went back to Fuji I think I would go X-H2 or X-T5 as I don’t need the hyper fast fps of the X-H2S and want tad more resolution. A7IV 33MP is a pretty sweet spot.
@@TCinSoCal the autofocus may be less good on the x-h2 and x-t5 im not sur but no i havnt tried that lens yet
Where did you get the green Sony a74?:D or it’s just film on it?
I bought it from a a guy who wrapped it. The entire thing was wrapped. I was removing the wrap but liked the top being green so left that part on. Alphagvrd is the skin company.
Thanks for the video. I tried to switch to Sony 3 times with Sony a73 , then a7r4 and A9 and always came back to canon. Now using canon R5. But due to expensive rf glass was thinking to try Sony again. Do you think this time Sony is worth the shot when it comes to skin tones. I also have Fuji xh2s in mind because if stacked sensor . I have respect of stacked sensors how good they are when I use to own Sony a9. They are really awesome. Can you guide me on this? Thankyou
Stacked sensors are great for fast shooting but I found I do very little of that. I’ve since gone back to the A7IV as I just love the ergonomics of it. The A7RV is very tempting since the AF is extremely good and can ‘downsample’ resolution when needed.. but it’s $$$. R5 is an amazing camera. If you like the colors for long-term might be worth staying. All 2.8 or faster glass is pretty expensive across systems IMO.
Skin tones are now ok on sony a7 IV and a7 rV👍
Fuji shutter sounds are so rewarding and pleasant!
I went with the A7IV now and will sell my XT-4, the autofocus was just so frustrating to deal with, especially in low light. Sure, you can make it work but you always have to fiddle with settings or double-check. I also think it makes more sense to go with the Sony because their size is almost identical but one is full frame. I still liked the Fuji but it doesn't make sense for me to keep two systems.
I think the X-H2S is an AF improvement over the X-T4.. either way.. you can’t go wrong with the A7IV or the X-H2S. Both amazing cameras. If I had more hands, time, and $ I might have kept the A7IV as I truly enjoyed it.
@@TCinSoCal I went with fuji becasue the new xf33 and xf23 lenses are so good, and to get an equivalent in full frame you'd have to go really big...I'm hoping the new XT5 will have the H2s autofocus becasue the I love the xt4 form factor, though the autofocus can be lacking sometimes.
@@Jgheiler The new Fuji lenses are superb.
Currently on an XT4. I have been waiting to decide whether or not I wanted to purchase an XT5 or XH2. However, there is definitely a part of me that wants to go to full frame. Partly for the more reliable auto focus. Definitely lost quite a few shots because they were too soft and unusable. However, another issue is that the RAF files from Fuji are a pain in the ass to edit in anything except Capture One. I feel like this Sony format will allow me to use Photoshop/Lightroom and even my Luminar subscription instead of having to pay the high price for Capture One. After making the switch away from Fuji and to the A7IV, do you have any regrets? I currently have an 18-55, 55-200, 23 f/2, 35 f/2, and 50 f/2. Just don’t want to go through the pain in the ass of selling everything and buying into another system and less it’s going to be worth the trouble. That’s why I was asking about your experience.
@@RazeTheWeak The XT5 is suppose to have imporved autofocus...But using a full frame camera also means using those full frame lenses which are much bigger and more 3 times as expensive
Does the X-H2S have the new nostalgic film?
Yes. Nostalgic Negative
Keep the videos coming -- you have great content !
Thank you. I will try.. life gets so busy.
Very informative and helpful. Cleared my lot of doubts
I’m happy to hear that. Thank you for sharing.
Great review. If you like that little Sony 50, you NEED the little Fuji XF 35 f2.
Very good point. I’ve owned the 35 f2 and it’s a LOT of performance in a small package. I tested with the 33 1.4 and it’s great but not nearly as small. 35 f2 is a badass lens.
this is a fantastic video. I am just starting with a real camera (kid photos, vacation, and trying to be creative...). I have a Fuji XS-10, i love it, but I am frustrated about how many unique moments and great emotions I missed with a poor focus. And when I give the camera to my wife so that she can take photos of me, it's even more difficult. would you upgrade to XH2-S? still very happy about AF a month after the video ? is the XH2-S much clunkier than XS-10?
i forgot to ask. when there are multiple people in the frame. how easy, is it to tell the camera which one is the subject? does the XH2S keep tracking that person even if people move around? or does it jump around?
Several things here. First, the X-H2S is definitely more bulky than the X-S10. I have tried the X-S10 as well. Before switching try a few things… first try shooting in Shutter Priority at 1/250+.. as much as you can get away with without ISO breaking 3200. I used to try and take pics of my boys in A mode and found that I needed faster SS. Another option is to be in A priority but set one of your Auto ISO settings to max ISO 3200 and minimum shutter speed of 1/250. Also, use Continuous AF mode with a zone focusing set of squares with Face detect on. I think the X-S10 has the same AF as the X-T4 so it’s pretty good.
Regarding switching subjects.. I never did that. I shoot using back button focus in AF-C so I would just release my finger from focus and then put the focus on the other subject then hold focus. You can do BBF with the X-S10 but the button is really small. I would try my first suggestion.
The X-S10 is definitely better in the AF realm than the X-S10. It’s cheat mode in how well it grabs eyes/face but it could be more camera than you want/need as it is a beefy camera.
Ironically, I have switched back to the Sony. I think the colors from the Fuji are slightly better but I just missed the ergonomics of the A7IV. That is so weird for me to say. The more I shot with the X-H2S the more I just couldn’t get my fingers to work the way they did on the Sony. I also could not find a walk around zoom lens that I liked as much as the Sony 24-105… and yes, I tried the 16-55. I often take shots of the same landscapes near our house and, to me, the detail I get from the A7IV and the Sony 24-105 was besting the Fuji… but it really came down to ergonomics. I have an X100V so I can always use that to get Fuji colors when I want them.
Oh.. and in your menu setting. Set the AF mode to ‘All”.. by doing that when you turn the focus square to green you can use the rear command dial to go through all the AF area selections. You can easily go from single point to the Zone for the images of your family.
Let me know how it goes.
@@TCinSoCal Thank you for all your insights. I shoot mostly in A Priority mode, and try to make sure SS doesn't get too low, but maybe I should increase that even further (I was keeping it at 100min).
I also use also BBF and mostly continuous AF with Zone (with BBF, I can do single focus by releasing the button). My kid mostly looks down at whatever he plays with, and the moments where he looks up are fast - looks like it's too fast for the camera to grab the eye and focus 🙂even with the 33mm lens which is fast. I don't make it easy because I shoot often quite open , so the depth of field is quite shallow.
@@TCinSoCal so back to the a7iv? I work with a fuji x-t4 doing photos and videos. The 30min recording limit is bothering me and I need a 2nd camera for video at least but it makes sense to get one that can do video and photo really good. Maybe I'll get a used panasonic s5 for video where I can use MF on a tripod. But then again AF is not working reliably, in the S5 and the camera feels not as snappy. So maybe it's better to decide between the xh2s and a7iv. I wish there would be a xt5s with the same sensor as in xh2s but same ergonomics as on x-t4 so it would match 100%.
@@eatsimplefood Yes. I love the ergonomics of the A7IV. I can switch so quickly between eye detect being on/off as well as cycle through human/animal/bird. This is a lot of my shooting. I am not a pro but just couldn’t find a Fuji setup that matched the A7IV/24-105 in output/AF/weight.
Both are amazing. The eye tracking of both are superb.
Thanks for the vid
A7c or xt5?
Tough call. I think I’d go X-T5 out of those.
Nice review, I really thought you'd say you're Sony was much better especially with regards noise, very interesting. I love Fujifilm but intrigued by Sony I've gone to full frame with Nikon thinking my pictures would be better, they weren't so I went to Fuji and my pictures improved for me, I just loved photography again and on a crop sensor I just love the colours of my XT3. I would love to try the XH2S but I do love the dials.... Would I miss them...?
You said love a lot regarding Fuji. Sounds like you’re good. I actually left the X-H2S to go back to the A7IV. I missed the ergonomics of the Sony. I do have an X100V for Fuji colors.. also love them.
Great video! You’re interests in photography are definitely in line with mine (95% family and travel). I bought a Sony A7iv for same reasons as you, eye autofocus, but I’m looking at possibly selling and buying a Fuji body, either X-H2S or X-T4. I did have 2 questions on what you were talking about in regards to colors and noise. I also notice and don’t like how my Sony tends to make everything orange when indoors (drives my wife crazy). We’re you saying you that the Fuji is better in that scenario and doesn’t make your kids orange? Second question, another reason I went Sony initially was low light performance, and you peaked my interest when talking about the low light performance of the Fuji. Just to clarify, were you saying you get the same useable high ISO with the Fuji as you do with The Sony? Or did you just mean you like the noise Fuji makes when compared to the Sony? Because if the Fuji can get close to the high ISO performance of the full frame Sony, then that would be a huge plus to me as well. Basically, I want to switch to Fuji as I prefer their colors and overall size of the system with lenses, etc. but the eye autofocus and low light is what pulled me to initially to Sony (Sounds like the X-H2S addressed both of those concerns, even over the X-T4, right). Which is why I found your video very helpful, thanks!
Whew. Great questions. I may need a keyboard.. we are on vacation in Utah but it’s early morning.
First, I would not want to be the guy that tells you to switch… it’s expensive. One option is to buy the Fuji used with a good return policy to test it. That’s what I often do.
Second, I don’t think the eye AF/stickiness is as good with the X-T4. The H2S is a significant step up. It matches the A7IV (I’m using the new lenses..but have used 16-55 and will be testing with 16-80 soon. Gotta run.. will answer rest later.
Back from breakfast... noise.. note that I rarely shoot above 6400 and try not to go above 3200. FF is supposed to blow away crop sensor with noise but IMO it’s so close these days. I did feel that the noise structure of the Fuji was more appealing. Hard to describe but less ‘electric’. Note, I turn NR all the way off with my Fuji bodies as I prefer Fuji noise to ANY NR smearing. I can always apply a little NR in edits if needed.
The orange look.. Kids game room is notorious for this. The Fuji handles the WB better and is easier to get back to a good/great WB/color IMO. I’ve found the Fuji sim Pro Neg Standard very good for this. I just tested and used PNS & reduced color temp and was happy with the colors.
Note with kids, having a faster lens is crucial for indoors. Even f2 over f4 can allow you to up the SS without having to go crazy high with ISO. I TRY to use A priority for images of my kids but I’ve found they are even moving slightly when ‘not moving’. I often go S Priority to freeze them. One option to stay in A priority is to set the min SS to 1/200 or higher in one of the Auto-ISO settings. Fuji gives you 3. I never set ISO. I live in my 3 Auto-ISO modes and tweak as needed. You could even set one of the C1-C7 banks to an ‘indoor kids’ setting. I need to check to see if Auto-ISO settings change with C banks or if they apply across all C banks. Hope this helps.
@@TCinSoCal wow, thanks for the quick reply. Yes this is very helpful. If I get the Fuji I will definitely try the pro neg standard. And yea, I live in aperture priority for most of my shots as well. I love having auto iso/min ss. I forgot Fuji has 3 auto iso options, that’s good to know. I prefer primes at the moment so looking at those new 1.4s and the f2s. Thanks again! And I hope you enjoy your vacation.
Thank you. The new 1.4 lenses are so $$$ it’s hard to say they are REALLY worth it over the f2 lenses. The f2 lenses are so good and can be found for around $300 used.
This was an amazing insight and I loved the style
Thank you
Nice honest review and comparison. I think every system and brand has its pros and cons, just choose the one that you enjoy the most and suits your style.
I got my XH2s a couple weeks ago, I already had an XT4 and also a Canon R6 system, so I have plenty lenses for both systems. But lately I have hardly picked up my R6 at all I reluctantly take it along on some wedding gigs but honestly the images when editing thru Capture one just don’t thrill me that much especially it being a FF sensor I was expecting more. In a lot of ways I prefer editing the Fuji raw files more especially the XH2s the images seem about half a stop brighter then XT4 but still about half a stop darker then the R6 when using exactly same exposure settings under same lighting conditions. So I even noticed the colour on the XH2s in extreme low light having slightly more colour fidelity then the XT4 and very comparable to the R6 although the XH2s I preferred the colour science better.
I seriously believe these days with all the newest models since 2019, when it comes to specs we’re splitting hairs, for me it comes down to a few things mainly because of the type of work I do, number one is skin tones, colour science and ergonomics. and Fuji seems to do amazing in all those 3 areas for me. Doesn’t mean other brands are poor, it’s just my preference. Now that AF is a lot more reliable with the XH2s it’s going to be hard for me to keep my Canon system because that was the main reason I still kept onto it.
Such great comments. Thank you. Funny you say that about X-H2S exposure. I feel like exposure compensation was not something I used a lot with past Fuji bodies but I am down up to a stop quite often with the X-H2S. You are so right on how close things are between systems these days. I think that’s great as we can likely we pick gear we feel and not lose too much in the way of tech.
I am about to get my XH2s rental in and I am looking at replacing my Canon R6 with it. I photograph weddings too so I would love some real world feedback on how the Fuji did in the autofocus department? Also, any input on getting the H2 instead? I heard the autofocus isnt as good as the s. But I'd like a resolution bump. Thanks Elias!
@@thewildblake622 I find the XH2s resolution and detail more then enough for weddings and even corporate portraits. Basically I haven’t had any issue at all printing up to 20x30 inch. I have also done some wall signage head shots for a real estate company and they came out great. When it comes to AF for me the XH2s is up there with the R6 it’s better in low light, however in good light The Canon R6 is a fraction more stickier with the eye/face detect. to be honest there both amazing and more similar the different when it comes to AF. I hope that helps
@@eliaspap8708 That was exactly what I was looking for! I just didnt want to feel like it was a downgrade in reference to autofocus / image quality. Thank you.
@@thewildblake622 I forgot to mention low light noise, if that’s important to you? The R6 has a definite advantage when going beyond 3200 iso, the noise or lack of is about a stop better then the XH2s. That’s probably the biggest difference between the 2 systems.
Really enjoy the style of this. Time stamps would be helpful so I can skip to the part I was most curious about. I appreciate the info, earned my subscription.
Thank you. I will try to figure out how to do that. I am new to the whole video realm.
@@TCinSoCal I think just add the title of the section followed by 4:22 (the time that it happens) in the description and youtube will pick that up and automatically do it for you.
@@thewildblake622 oh damn. that’s easy. Thank you!
When u said autofocus in Fuji Xh2s is 95% of Sony a7iv are u talking about af in video or photography???
Stills/photography. I do very little video..as you can probably tell.
@@TCinSoCal so, ur review is all about stills photography, not video ?
@@mahakaal9977 correct
@@TCinSoCal it is a well known fact that full frame cameras have more dynamic range than crop sensor cameras. Why u chose a crop sensor camera?? Are u a wildlife/sports shooter primarily??
@@mahakaal9977 Thank you for your comment. I chose the Fuji because I enjoy shooting Fuji and the AF is just a tad below that of the A7IV IMO. I have never personally needed full-frame. In my time with several FF bodies (A7iii, Z6ii, and A7IV) I have not noticed any gains related to dynamic range in the way I shoot. I feel like I can pull/push shadows/exposure pretty closely between these two bodies.
However, note that I actually like shadows and rarely try to pull all the light out of my entire image.
I did some quick research on dynamic range for these two bodies and what I am finding is that the Fuji seems to do pretty well in comparison. I used a site called cined.com if you are interested in checking it out.
Also note that I am not a always wide-open shooter so that benefit/advantage that comes from FF is a it lost on me.
Sometimes a load shutter is a good thing. I once took a photo of my cat. He looked at the camera when he heard the shutter. The second photo was really nice with him looking right at the camera.
Fair point.
But with the X-H2S you have the option of using electronic shutter and turning the artificial noise all the way up :P
I love Nikon and I am waiting for the Z6III to come, but love Fuji colors too, and this XH2-S is really a beast..
I am considering now what to do haha...
You can’t go wrong. Nikon & Fuji have the best colors IMO but Sony has gotten much better. If the things you are shooting aren’t moving you truly cannot go wrong.
This was wonderful. Thank you. Came here from Fujirumors.
Thank you. That’s great to hear.
@@TCinSoCal my pleasure brother.:)
Great video! Thanks so much for taking time to share your thoughts on these two systems. I'm strongly considering a switch to Fuji from my trusty Canon 5D IV kit. I've finally realized that my shooting needs are similar to yours - my primary goal is to capture family life and travel (95% still photos). It will be psychologically difficult to switch to an APS-C body, but your points about how well Fuji handles low-light and noise are just what I needed to hear. And I was a bit concerned about the A7 IV EVF - glad to hear that Fuji's is so much better.
I think the X-H2S is a bit more than I need, but from what I'm reading about the anticipated specs of the X-H2, I think it may be the Goldilocks for my needs.
One stupid question - which hand strap(s) do you recommend for Fuji? I've used the Peak Design Clutch with my Canon and really liked it, but I think having more of a wrist strap like yours will make me look less like a "pro" than I felt like I looked using the Canon. (I'm just a dadtographer...)
Thanks again!
Thank you for your comment Mark. I was being a little hard on Sony for EVF but it really is worse than Nikon and Fuji. The Nikon Z6ii has a very good EVF but the X-H2S EVF is glorious.
The X-H2S is more than I need as well but being a long-time Fuji shooter I had to try a Fuji body with competitive AF and I am glad I did. I will likely do another follow-up video but one thing I have found that I use with the X-H2S that I didn’t use on other bodies is the Electric Shutter or the Electric Front Curtain Shutter. I put the H2S in a mode that allows the camera to choose (I think EF below 1/200 then Mechanical, then ES.. ) and I like this as I have been shooting more ‘open’ with fast lenses lately.
The black wrist strap I use is by Op-Tech and I like their products. It feels like wetsuit material and doesn’t stand out very much.
One thing about the H2S is that it doesn’t come with metal rings for straps and it seems metal rings would possibly scratch the body. This is almost like being ‘forced’ to use Op-Tech/Peak type straps. Not a deal breaker for me but I did want to use a leather strap I have and will have to find a ‘solution’ if I want to do so.
Hi Mark, long time Fuji user here.
For travel & kids / pets photography You may wanna try Fuji X-S10 also known as stripped down X-T4.
It might suit you more since it is more compact and AF might satisfy your needs for less money.
Of course, if money is no object - XH2s is a beast!
@@pojemario - Thanks for taking time to reply and I appreciate your recommendations. I've looked at both the X-T4 and X-S10 and they both seem very capable and would easily meet most of my needs (wants?).
My impression of the different Fuji models may be a bit less-than-accurate, but it seems that the X-S10 is built similarly to Canon's consumer-grade bodies - at least as far as available buttons and dials (thinking the Rebel series). Coming from the Canon 5D IV, I see a huge value in having rich controls at my fingertips. It looks like the X-S10 is a bit watered down when it comes to the controls and some of the flagship-level features.
My thought regarding the X-T4 is that it's last year's model. I usually try to buy the newest possible technology - right or wrong - because I prefer to keep electronics longer than many people. Even though it would be a great place to start, I think knowing that there's a newer (more powerful?) model would make me feel like I missed out. (First world problems, right?)
The X-H2S was announced about the time I started seriously considering a system switch. I don't mind spending ~$2,500-$3,000 on a body. However, I will be very interested in seeing the specs of the X-H2 when it's hopefully announced in the next few months since I'll probably get more value from a slightly higher resolution than the faster framerate of the X-H2S. I'm aiming to have my next kit ready for a trip next June, so I may even hold my breath for a X-T5 announcement. Whatever I purchase, I plan to hang onto it for 5+ years.
Thanks again for your reply and recommendations!
@@markjsc I completely understand you since I was a long time Canon 5DmkIV user, still have it, collecting dust. For work I switched to Canon R6, great camera, but this one is just a tool with no real passion I found only in Fuji cameras so far.
Started with X-T30, just to have something for traveling that is not a mobile phone camera, to "feel" like a photographer while shooting.
Long story short Fuji won me over completely, to the level that I traded in some of my old Canon gear for X-S10 and every since I got it I use it for PRO work too. Real estate, portraits, studio work (because X-S10 has tethering) and just love it, love it, love it.
About XH2 that will be soon announced I have my doubts about the speed of the AF comparing to XH2s because XH2s has stacked sensor and this might be the fastest AF there is, non-stacked in XH2 might not have this performance, but we will soon see it.
I wish you happy times with any future Fuji gear, I have tons of it - with great results ;)
@@pojemario That’s a great point about the stacked sensor with Autofocus. I thought the sensor was more about capture speed - I didn’t realize it had such an impact on autofocus too. If the X-H2 is significantly slower then I suppose the X-H2S will be my “one to beat”.
Thanks again for your replies!
The noise is one reason I may move away from FF cameras for the first time ever. I've always used Canon but I don't even like going above 3200 whereas i've seen a Fuji at 10k and i'm not bothered by it. Fuji has a more pleasing filmic noise (which makes sense cuz it's Fuji and they have film sims too) and I love how film looks, whereas Canon/Sony/etc noise looks like video noise or as I like to refer to it as "confetti" noise. I may finally try Fuji cuz altho I lose a little bit of the ease in bokeh at times (or all the times since I always shoot wide open lol) I get those beautiful default starting points with film sims, the noise is infinitely more pleasing to where I almost want it in shots, and that 14 stops of dynamic range in video sounds amazing for video.
Or I may wait for the XT5, also considering that.
I was never a FF person until trying Sony. For my type of shooting FF isn’t a significant leap. In some ways it was a step back in that I lost reach. ‘Confetti’ is a great way to describe the noise. Historically, I’ve not been a wide open shooter.. but I’ve been setting the X-H2S to EF/M/ES shutter selection and going wide open and having fun. It could just be me but I did have an issue trying to shoot my wife wide open with strong (sun) backlight.. it wanted to blow out the highlights.. could be the face detect ‘overpowering’ metering the scene. Fuji disables metering mode selection when face/eye detect is enabled. Seems ok until you have to note to turn it off. Also, Lightroom is missing many of the new film simulations for X-H2S. I, and others, have been bugging Fuji and Adobe about this. It’s like Adobe is using film simulations from the X-H1.
Definitely some quirks to the X-H2S & I plan to do a video about what I’ve found.. one being the strap ring ‘hooks’. WTH?.. it’s like Fuji assumed we would use non-metal type strap attachments. Thank you for you comment.
Not too many people share your opinion. While I haven't tried the sony a7iv... none of the Fuji bodies can hold a candle next to cameras like sony fx3 or canon r6 when it comes to noise... they're just in a different league and it's not a matter of opinion. Not Haring Fuji's... love them but for different reasons.
@@loriolus Thank you for your comment. This was a comparison between A7IV & X-H2S.
@@loriolus What's not a matter of opinion is that the Fuji has *more* noise. What *is* a matter of opinion, is that most people prefer to see luminance noise over hue/ saturation noise, and Sony noise is full of garbage green and magenta noise whereas on Fuji it's monochromatic.
@@Vinterloft True, but on an r6 noise starts kicking in long after fuji already looks like mush. I've worked with both cameras professionally.
Great video man, lots of good points! I’ve also really liked the look of the Fuji noise. I’m so used to de-noising my canon files that I think I need to start maybe leaving some of them alone.
I never thought about remapping my white balance button but also never use it so that’s a great idea. I also never knew about swipe gestures, something else good to know. If Fuji updates the options for customization through firmware, it’ll be so good!
I don’t change WB a lot.. and on some older Fuji bodies there was a mapping that led to me selecting WB & adding Red.. so now I map it where it’s a pain to get to. Thank you for you comments!
@@TCinSoCal it definitely makes sense. I’ve got the annoying top button set to turn off subject detect but it makes more sense to swap that with WB for sure!
Loud shutters bother me for some reason. I especially hate Canon shutters, those things clap.
I got two X-H2S on the way, I’ve been shooting Fuji for a while, so the ergonomics are gonna have a little learning curve for me. I do love my dials.
I think Fuji is gonna sell a ton of these cameras, the reviews have been rave with the exception of a few grumpy people and those that you can tell don’t give a crap about Fuji. This camera sweeps the floor with any other APSC camera out there.
The X-H2S shutter sound is so nice IMO. On ergonomics.. get ready.. the C banks that are normally in the Q menu are the C1-C7 banks on the MASP dial. I went to program a sim recipe in the Q menu & was like where are the C banks.. ohhhhh.. I also think a smallrig base will help as it’s actually smaller than I expected.
Which one looks more filmic to you?
I don’t think I can answer this. Subjective. Both have profiles/sims to adjust the view/look of images & video.
Regarding the X-H2s's EVF, a lot of images I take look sharp in the EVF but when checked are not in focus. This I hope can be fixed in firmware, because I think there is a delay in taking exposure, or back or front focus that don't show in the EVF. If, afterward, an image is unfocused, the focus system is defaulting somewhere. So far, against a Canon R6, the focus is behind the R6 with adapted EF lenses, but not but a huge margin, and it is the best focus system I have used in a Fujifilm and therefore the most usable Fujifilm camera for a wide variety of photography.
Oh, and video colours and sharpness are amazing.
Great review, but I just wanted to add that the discrepancy between EVF and post-shot reviewing likely is caused by camera mis-focus.
Thank you. I’ll look out for this. I have not experienced this.
@@TCinSoCal It could be what you were describing where the image in the EVF looked sharp but on the iPad or iPhone it did not. That suggests mis-focus. I get quite a few cases of false focus confirmation.
@@guyprolly to be very certain, are you saying it would look in focus when shot or reviewed? My instance is it looks sharper at times on EVF playback than iPad/iPhone.
@@TCinSoCal Okay, I see what you mean. In playback, the EVF looks sharper than another viewing device in playback. Cheers. I mean when shooting, a thing looks in focus, or the box for eyes or face come up and the resulting shot is out of focus.
I've not compared EVF playback against iPhone for sharpness. That is interesting. I used to shoot the Leica SL from 2015, which had the same EVF resolution. It blew my mind, but it wasn't quite as fluid as the X-H2s's, likely due to the stacked sensor and faster readout.
Thank you. Really great video. More review should copy your style. Fuji shooter for quite some time. Just got the HS2. Not yet put it through its paces…. But the improvement in autofocus capabilities is the key in my mind for the survivability of the Fuji X series and I believe they have done it. It is a bit expensive but I guess one pays also the price of the video capabilities. I now am looking forward to the 40MP sensor. Interesting times at Fuji. BTW I am curious to see what Fuji will do with the GFX system given these new technologies. I shoot GFX manly for my landscape work.
Thank you for your comment. You make a very good point as to the survivability of Fuji X. I, and others, left Fuji for better AF. I tried Nikon and ended up with Sony. I’ll take a Fuji with 90% of A7IV any day. Sony was a compromise on colors for me. I’d rather compromise for 90% of badass AF to get Fuji colors & experience back. Enjoy your H2S!
Personally, I had to sell the Fuji as the ergonomics were a deal-breaker for me. Great camera though.
Which Fuji? I sold my XT3 because there is really no way to grip that thing. If you have a heavy lens on it then forget about it. I kept my XH1 bc of the grip. The XH2 looks good but I'm seeing other reviews say that it's still not up to par with Sony or canon. If that's the case I wont be getting it. The XT3 AF in video was worse than my Panasonic G9
Sir! I really enjoying watching your video, and just like you, I am a hobby photographer whose style is just like you, family man. I sold my Fujifilm X-H1 along with all Fuji lens to buy Sony A7R IV, now I still have it, but I really love Fuji lens especially Fujifilm 16-55mm F2.8, and I sold that fuji lens, too. Now I just preorder Fujifilm X-H2s, and I am still waiting for it. Before getting that camera, I just bought Fuji lens 16-55mm yesterday. Please tell me do I make the right choice, and do you have any complains about the Fujifilm X-H2s? Thank you for your time making this video.
Thank you for your kind comments. Looks like we followed a similar path from Fuji to Sony. I LOVED the X-H1 but we know it wasn’t the best for face/eye detect and accuracy. The A7RIV you are using is a resolution beast so your files will be more manageable with the H2S but do know you lose some resolution/cropping ability…but ‘lose’ is a relative term here as the sensors in the A7IV & X-H2S are more than enough for amazing sharp images. On the 16-55.. great lens but do note it’s sharpness peaks around f5.6 and falls off after f11 so I personally shoot landscape type (not professional) shots around f7.1.
Complaints..
- I wish switching through static subject/face detect/animal detect was as ‘easy’ as the A7IV but I’ve got it mapped pretty good.
- strap rings seem to force us to use non-metal type attachments (Peak, Op-Tech).
- I feel like I need to remember to turn face detect off when I want non-person scene metering
.. nothing major IMO
I think you will be very happy. I think the body/lens combo you chose will do well for capturing the type shots we take.
One note.. you may do this already but I’ve found that while I prefer A priority for taking shots of my boys I sometimes have to go to S priority around 1/250 or so to get sharper results because kids are never truly still.
Thank you for your feedback and time. Cheers!
..one more comment try shooting the Fuji with NR set to -4 and sharpness to +1. Fuji noise isn’t ‘as bad’ IMO and I rather have some Fuji noise than possibly NR ‘smudging’.
CineD did a test and said the Hx2s is really close to the sony Venice in low light. I'm getting fuji
I’ll caveat that I’m not a pro shooter but in my months of using the A7IV & weeks of testing the X-H2S up against it there were no real/significant areas where the Sony beat the Fuji.
Fuji uses a different ISO scale. About 2/3 darker.
Regarding noise, Fuji has the film grain soft pleasing noise at higher iso vs patchy Sony style? Other Vlogger is the one and only Casey from @cameraconspiracies who is mad funny
Noise is noise but I definitely prefer the noise from Fuji.
Fuji is making amazing progress.
I’m going to stick to sony for a few more years so fuji can refresh there lens lineup for video. Currently there are just too few lenses with the new motors.
But give them 2-3 years and with a new lens linup there going to be fire.
Very fair points. Thank you for your feedback and comments.
Why didn't you give the Nikon Z6II or Z7II a chance? They also have an excellent EVF, and they are great in ergonomics. Not to speak from their output in terms of image quality! And with the Nikkor Z 24-120 F4 S you also get an outstanding walk around lens too!
I used the Z6ii for quite a while. I think it produces the best ‘true’ colors right out of the gate. The eye detect/AF was not consistent enough for me. Had it been, I likely would still be using it. Looking back, I do prefer ergonomics of the A7IV & X-H2S over the Z6ii.
@@TCinSoCal Okay - a camera what is perfect in every respect doesn't exist yet ... but I love my Nikon Z6 (which feels better in my hands than the Sony A7IV) with the excellent Nikkors. But I do not photograph flying dogs 😂
@@markusbolliger1527 agree. definitely no perfect camera. Nikon wins colors IMO.
I’m indifferent to the PASM dial. Every camera I’ve owned before Fuji had one. I can shoot my Fujis as if they have one. It’s just different. The Fuji 50F2.0 is an awesome lens also.
Thank you for your comment. I agree with you.. am indifferent to the PASM/MASP dial. I have not used them extensively but the memory banks seem really user-friendly. I have already mapped a Fuji recipe from FujiXWeekly to one of them.
I have not owned the Fuji 50mm f2 but it has been VERY hard to not buy one. There have been a few listed on Reddit Photomarket for around $300. The Lenstip results for this lens are stunning.
@@TCinSoCal $300 is an excellent buy. I have the 35 F2.0 also. They make a great travel kit with one of the small Fujis.
I used to shoot Nikon too (all the way back to the D70) and am also now a "Fuji shooter". Mainly because nobody else makes pro APS-C cameras, and I'm a concert photographer and there's no way in hell I'm ever giving up APS-C again. (experimented with full frame on the D700) I'm waiting for the non-S X-H2 but it's been rough, been sitting with a triggerhappy finger resting on the buy button on the S for a while now. But I just know I'll get more value out of the 40MP sensor since my most used lens is the sharpest lens available on Fuji X mount (Samyang 135mm F2) and 8K video is nice for post-production crops and pans.
I would love the 40MP sensor but I can't give up the crazy AF.. AND I am 95% mobile (iPad/iPhone) for edits and the files from the X-H2S are already plenty to work with... never say never though. :)
You can sell some Sony lenses but keep the camera with one or two lenses to save money. It sounds like you like both camera, it's nothing wrong to keep both :)
I would love to keep both!! .. but to buy the Fuji lenses I want and break even I have to sell off the Sony gear. I also wouldn’t use a second $$ body enough to justify keeping it. Gonna let someone else enjoy it! Thank you for your comment.
I didn't know Fred Durst was into cameras this much
I am not from Jacksonville. Thank you for your comment. 😎
@@TCinSoCal no Mathews Bridge then 😭
@@Axelfre1988 driven over that bridge many times.. but not from Jax.
The Sony is the clear winner in the video AF stakes. So if you care about in-focus video, buy the Sony.
I’m a stills shooter and my ‘review’ is from that perspective. Thank you for your comment.
@@TCinSoCal Yep, that was clear from your review. And FWIW I still have a Fuji Xt20 and a few lenses. I like Fuji too but AF has always been a frustration
@@pauldewar626 Fuji AF frustration is a real thing. I could say I’d test the AF of the X-H2S but I don’t think I bring anything to the table. The X-H2S will become my filming camera for videos like these as the X100V was defiantly a PITA.. but that isn’t the V’s forte either.
great to hear the Fuji is 95% of that AF performance, beeing the flagship and seeing its other capabilities thats a bit disappointing BUT its more than enough for most people i guess.
I was honestly surprised that the X-H2S did so well. I have used Fuji for a long time and CAF/tracking has never been a strong point for Fuji compared to competitors. I have now used several of these bodies in this price tier and all of them are so good even someone ‘new’ to photography can learn and do very well with them.
I like the witchcraft terminology used to describe the auto focus Sony Is witch master when it comes to that.
They truly are.
Here is another review of the camera I hope you are not offended th-cam.com/video/y5RsQGat9-A/w-d-xo.html
Just saw your comment on TA channel.
@@perryvalton4245 I was pretty shocked by his review honestly. Back in 2021, he did a video on the latest Fuji GFX body and was complimentary. The X-H2S build is so similar to the GXF. I am not saying it IS the GFX.. similar and well-built IMO. When he said the X-H2S is like the build of the X-T30 he lost me.
@@TCinSoCal I know he was very brutal with that review. I guess psam dial and no iso dial is deal breaker and way too radical for some
Great video man.
Yeah the EVF on my A7S III is incredible best in the industry, but they ruined the A7IV
Fuji has a base ISO of 160, so in the same conditions you will be shooting two thirds of a stop higher ISO to get the same exposure. So 10000 ISO on Fuji = 6400 ISO on Sony (FF or APS-C, doesn't matter). So if you're comparing, let's say, the noise levels of 3200 ISO on Fuji to 3200 on Sony, you are giving the Fuji two thirds of a stop advantage. To make it fair you should be comparing 3200 ISO on Fuji to 2000 ISO on Sony.
Thank you for your comment. I get the ‘science’ but I shot them side by side for weeks. I let Sony pick it’s ISO up to 10,000. In the conditions I shoot the Fuji gave me better results. I don’t shoot to be FF equivalent. I shoot to ISO limits I’m comfortable with. The math can be right but I consistently preferred structure of Fuji noise/results. Over 6400 on either of them I prefer the Fuji. I know it’s subjective.
I have Sony A7 III and Fujifilm X-T3. One thing sony never be like fujifilm is easy to access setting menu.
I think Sony updated the menu system with the A7IV. I have to admit that Sony settings/menus have frustrated me in the past but being honest the menu/settings with the A7IV is pretty intuitive and much better.
I have the an a7iv and xt3.
The new menus on sony are very good. I cant even say that thy xt3 is easier to use anymore. Both have pros and cons but are overall equal.
@@ghostapi874 I got you. to be fair i never use a7iv or try new menu but for me fujifilm using direct name like H.265 MP4 not like sony xavc avchd and using p instread fps. that all i can say. sony is incidible camera if i have a chance to use a7iv i think it's will be good experience.
@@ghostapi874 Agree. The new menu system in the A7IV is MUCH better than past Sony menus.. and intuitive on its own.
Finally - an unbiased review from a real-world enthusiast who is telling it like it is. Absolutely fantastic, thanks so much for your time!
Quick question - have you ever tried out 16-80 f4, and what are your thoughts on it as a lighter, more practical travel version of 16-55mm?
Thank you! I don't review a lot of things but do when I feel like I can contribute.. especially versus just the run and gun .. got the camera to 'review' reviews. Since this review I have switched back to the A7IV... and the main reason being the ergonomics and a TAD more resolution. There are things I take shots of every day and I found the A7IV and 24-105 to be a bit sharper overall than my Fuji combos. I also wasn't using the crazy fast fps of the X-H2S.
Both are amazing.. I just like the fit/layout of the A7IV better.
I have used the 16-80 and I think it's a very good lens. If you look at the Lenstip.com reviews of the lens the 16-80 holds its own in resolution against the mighty 16-55 and is WAY lighter. I am actually selling a 16-80.. and likely would have sold it already if I wasn't 1000% honest.. as the lens does have mild zoom creep when over 23mm and held vertically facing down. It doesn't creep at slight angles.. just straight down... and not under 23mm. Oh well. someone will eventually grab it and enjoy it. For me, I didn't NEED 2.8 enough to justify the weight of the 16-55 over the 16-80.. and 56-80 was 'free'.
Thank you for your comments.
The way reviews should be done :) :)
Thank you!!
Honest review. Thanks
Definitely my honest opinion. Thank you.
I asked an FDA inspector what he thought about a matter in the law. He said, Opinions are like bellybuttons, everybody has at least one.
Thank you for sharing yours.
Awesome comparison video. I just got my XH2-S and can't wait to use it for concert photography. The X100V works super well at concert photography and I can only imagine with the new AF algorithms/stacked sensor, the XH2-S will just kill it.
Thank you. Enjoy your new H2S!
The x-h2s has 14 stops of dynamic range and open gate recording. It smokes the A7IV, you need to put it up against my FX3.
thx for the review...it helped!
Happy to hear that. Thank you for commenting.
Personally, I'm sad to look at comparisons of pictures from FF cameras versus APS-C cameras (I have a 32-inch 4K 10-bit professional display). Here is a comparison video Sony A7IV vs Fuji X-H2S: th-cam.com/video/B0z5det6Gx0/w-d-xo.html. Only a blind person can fail to see the big difference in image clarity at 3:44 and the big difference in color reproduction at 4:04 of this video. No one can defeat physics - an elephant cannot jump like a squirrel. Both in the dynamic range and in noise, the FF will always be far ahead of the APS-C matrix. By God, I don’t understand why, for the same price, choose APS-C instead of FF. I watched a video comparing Sony A7 III and Sony A7 IV and there all these differences are barely distinguishable.
The Fujifilm X-H2 with a 40-megapixel sensor has just come out and I am more than sure that the 33-megapixel Sony will be a cut above not only in terms of picture clarity, but also in all the indicators that I indicated above in this post. I'm sure that Sony A7 IV video in 4K will be sharper than 8K video on Fuji X-H2 with proper Sony settings.
I’m 95% photos..
Comparing cameras based on nothing more than sensor size is like comparing two cars based on nothing more than the size of the engine. There’s more to choosing a tool than the size of a sensor. For example, if you want high fps, the Sonys just don’t do it unless you spend almost $7k. That’s not to say Sonys are bad, just different tools for different needs.
The “image clarity” you are seeing there has nothing to do with the sensor size but the lenses used. The 24-70mm f2.8 GM II is one of the sharpest standard zoom lenses available on the market and it costs more than twice as much as the much older XF 16-55mm f2.8 on the Fuji. That is where the extra clarity is coming from.
has exactly the same thinking process and ended up with the same camera.
Congrats!! Great minds think alike. 😎
I did think about not watching if you didnt run to the camera..lol..Anyway, I care less about brands and formats, and there's no proof anything is better than most when it comes to stills. I can see myself getting the Sony and the Fuji, because i am not so stuck on STOOPID i have to stick with brands/formats. I have the Pentax full frame for night shooting, lunar stuff,and excellent stills,Sony for video/stills, and Canon film cameras. There's room for everyone, and like you said, if a content creator does not like to be questioned, they are probably a twisted, self entitled diva..
Thank you for not requiring me to run! Agree 100% on stills not having a ton of differentiation across manufacturers. Both the Sony and Fuji are great. I am just stoked we have great options.. but also stoked Fuji stepped up their AF game. Cheers!!
@@TCinSoCal Cool,so for the next one,you can skip and do cartwheels to test the 'hopping AF' and then claim your Sony overheats and suffers from the mythical 'rolling shutter'. I saw this guy with the Sony waving the camera side to side and called it ' rolling shutter'.I was like who is doing that while filming with ANY camera? I like your channel because I find most of them comical although they actually believe their nonsense.
@@michaels5166 Thank you. It will be rare for me to be ‘scientific’.. and I definitely will not be BS’ing anyone.
@@TCinSoCal Just a word about fake perception..I'm heavily into audio and studio gear,so in the industry,theres folks who call themselves audiophiles. So some of there people still think they hear better,know better,and are the gatekeepers of sound. So recently, a respected company Mobile Fidelity were caught LYING that some of their offerings were purely digital.So now,it's common knowledge that many of these people who claimed those recordings were better,now look STOOPID,because they were duped,while passing themselves off as experts. In other words,they swore up and down they could tell the difference,hear digital vs analog,and now they are exposed.So the same thing goes on in photography with people thinking their brand or format is better,just as good,etc,etc.
Colors.. Ice T lol... Actually made me laugh!
THANK YOU.. I’ve been hoping and waiting for this comment. Glad you appreciated it. 😎
2 years later, 80% of witchcraft :D
or even worse 😂
Basically another sony fanboy 🙄
Thank you for your comment? If referring to me.. I’m not sure you watched. Actually the opposite.
@@TCinSoCal not until the end to be fair and I was also half joking :)
X-H2S Cheaply made and haven't got any soul.
Thank you for your comment.
Thanks. 🙏 Great video, really enjoyed your thoughts. Came to exactly the same decision!. @fujichromer
Thank you for your comments. Enjoy your Fuji!