Discussing A Song of Ice and Fire Theories (Stream #5)

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  • @akmonra
    @akmonra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    The skinchanging wildling who controls the boar might try to warg into Ghost, and then Jon might counter-attack by wargging into the boar, becoming Aboar Ahai.

    • @pyramidion5911
      @pyramidion5911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm adead 😂💀

    • @shoople
      @shoople 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is known

  • @Asparagoose
    @Asparagoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    whoever submitted the "wildlings make no sense" theory has big "why don't people in wartorn countries just move!" energy. ridiculous statement

    • @ILikedGooglePlus
      @ILikedGooglePlus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Facts

    • @ChickenNugNugz2
      @ChickenNugNugz2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      "the reason why young people can't afford a house or to start a family is because of all of the avocado toast and fancy coffee"

    • @jennahammond7515
      @jennahammond7515 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @ChickenNugNugz2
      @ChickenNugNugz2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jennahammond7515 TRUE

    • @IncessantTapping
      @IncessantTapping หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "Sell them to who, Ben? Fucking Coldhands?"

  • @LuxLoser
    @LuxLoser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    If Robb were to warg a squire, it’d be Olyvar Frey. He spent more time with him and Olyvar cared enough for Robb to be locked up for the Red Wedding

  • @andromidius
    @andromidius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    My impression of Dany's miscarriage was that it wasn't intended by Miri. She explicitly told her not to enter the tent once the ritual began, after all.
    So even if the ritual caused it, which it might not have, Miri can't be held accountable for it morally speaking. Not to mention its entirely possible it was a natural miscarriage because Dany was so young (like... 13?!?!), she'd had a poor diet of mostly horse meat for the entire pregnancy, wasn't in great health due to being unused to long distance horse riding, was extremely stressed out by her circumstances even before Drogo was dying from his wound and the fact all she had for her healthcare was (let's be honest) very primitive tribal medicine not even at the level of medieval times (which were also, by our modern standards, absolutely appalling). So her miscarrying naturally isn't hard to believe at all.
    And Miri had no cause to deny Dany's accusations either - she knew it didn't matter what she said in her own defence, she just wanted to inflict a little more pain and vengeance for the suffering and death of her entire extended family. And throwing in the cherry on top of telling Dany she'd never have a child was just out of pure spite (and maybe the hope she'd take it seriously and not try again so she wouldn't fulfil the prophesy. Which is a big brain move on her part because it worked a treat, at least so far, and made Dany's life miserable.

    • @GustavoCardoso95
      @GustavoCardoso95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I really like that idea. I think it also speaks to Danys future choices as well. She could have escaped the khalasar with Jora, sold the eggs and raised her child. Instead she chose BLOOD MAGIC. I think it foreshadows her future choices for power in detriment of peace

    • @lostalone9320
      @lostalone9320 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's complex - If Dany's miscarriage was her fault, that has a lot of narrative weight. But it seems pretty common that Targaryen women sometimes give birth to horrible half-dragon abominations.
      That would mean that the miscarriage fundamentally means nothing, since it was going to happen no matter what.

    • @renaigh
      @renaigh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess the entire population of the Dothraki was just a miracle, since they're supposedly incapable of surviving childbirth.

    • @JoshuaKevinPerry
      @JoshuaKevinPerry 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GustavoCardoso95Escape..an army of horse riders..why would she be so weak as to turn down her birthright?

    • @maggiecramer8154
      @maggiecramer8154 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@renaigh that's not what they said. They pointed out that it's not terribly surprising that a 14 year old who is malnourished, in poor health, incredibly inbread ( her parents were siblings and their parents were also siblings), under a crazy amount of stress, and with a family history of weird miscarriages and stillbirth during a time where Healthcare is nonexistent and miscarriage and stillbirth is common would have a miscarriage or stillbirth. She had so many things against her that it isn't a wild idea to think things would go wrong.

  • @lysander3262
    @lysander3262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The sea begins to boil and turn dark red, the encircling jaws of Euron Greyjoy's eldritch reavers close in on Oldtown and the Redwyne fleet, and all seems lost.
    Suddenly, from a hidden cove, the Greyjoy spearhead is counter-ambushed by 10 dromonds armed with wildfire pot catapaults and Braavosi ballista.
    Within minutes, the Iron Fleet is reduced to sinking hulks wreathed in green flames, and the sense of doom is utterly dispelled. No krakens will wed today.
    The mutes of The Silence rebel, tackling and stabbing the Crow's-Eye 23 times.
    As he dies, Euron chances to spot the enemy commander upon the bow of his flagship. The man is wearing a Valyrian steel codpiece in the style of a sea-horse and eating a hock of smoked ham.
    "How?!" he curses. "Why!?"
    "There can be only *one* Lord of the Waters. And he does not share power."
    Refusing to elaborate, Aurane signals for his fleet to leave.

  • @demons_gate
    @demons_gate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Can we get a "what if" series with you and ASX?

    • @axelderb
      @axelderb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I hope you mean Alt Schwift X and not that annoying Alt Shift X

    • @eyeballpaul700
      @eyeballpaul700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@axelderb that shift guy is a wanker

    • @jacobrobb5391
      @jacobrobb5391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@axelderb very very different kinda videos based on who he’s talking about

    • @gabrielbreaker8859
      @gabrielbreaker8859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@axelderb the other personality

    • @seranymouse6176
      @seranymouse6176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's just get more Ggglliddus & ASwhiftX mash-ups.

  • @boogitywoogity248
    @boogitywoogity248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    So, an expansion on the Danny flynt being cold hands theory. Her story parallels Jon’s in a few ways, primarily that she’s 100% committed to duty and hates oath breakers. Similar to Jon getting revenge for the death of lord commander Mormont. Her death is similar to Jon’s in that both were murdered by their brothers while doing their utmost to fulfill an oath they volunteered to take. Neither were criminals or coerced into it, both sincerely admired the ideals of the watch and what it represents. If cold hands is Danny, and were to hear about what happened to Jon, she could potentially have a hand in, or resurrect him herself. If she turns out to truly be an attractive girl they could end up being the new sort of nights king and queen. He commands the watch, and both are now wights or half wights? This also fits into the theory of Jon being changed, he’s always cold now stuck in the same sort of half life Danny is.

  • @cjayhay
    @cjayhay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "John enters Ghost's body"
    - gimblus, 2022

  • @evannesbitt7852
    @evannesbitt7852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No you don't understand, nothing bad will happen to Satin, he will in fact break the fourth wall and tell us all how much of a mistake it was to grow a beard and whether or not Jon still has blood flow

  • @pip7990
    @pip7990 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "This is great content, I will eat a hat" 59:20. Foreshadowing?

  • @rin-joh8644
    @rin-joh8644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love the idea of Danny Flint being Coldhands.
    There's no way it will happen, but I love it.

  • @archiebaldwhirlwind220
    @archiebaldwhirlwind220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When GRRM has writer's block, he comes here.

  • @AC8X
    @AC8X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm like 99% sure there was a 'Pact for the Dawn' type reason why a contingent of First Men stayed north of the Wall. We know the Starks have forgotten significant bits of their ancient history, and the Night's Watch has forgotten their true purpose. It makes just as much sense that the wildlings have forgotten some vow, too.

  • @reevesavage
    @reevesavage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Cersei warged into Mandon Moore 😎
    then Petyr warged into Mandon Moore 😎

  • @mimiHTcat
    @mimiHTcat ปีที่แล้ว +13

    asoiaf: revenge bad but also the north remembers

    • @billjoe8734
      @billjoe8734 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t think that is meant to be viewed positively, and I think that will be more clear by story’s end. That being said, I’m still on the side of destroying all the Freys except for Olyvar.

  • @taylorleibel4327
    @taylorleibel4327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Thanks for giving me more stuff to annoy the shit out of my friends with

  • @filbertrocko
    @filbertrocko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "The Battle of Evermore" is an acoustic guitar and mandolin track from Led Zeppelin's fourth album. It is commonly believed to be based on events in J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings' final volume, The Return of the King.
    “Evermore” is even more directly inspired by the fifteenth and sixteenth century Anglo-Scottish wars, mostly fought along the border of the two countries, which Plant had been reading about prior to writing the lyrics.
    Led Zeppelin went on to reference their favorite fantasy series in two songs from 1971: “Misty Mountain Hop” (named for the place where Bilbo Baggins and his dwarf pals spend some time in The Hobbit) and “The Battle of Evermore” (“The ring wraiths ride in black/Ride on!”). You have got to remember how much older they are than us. I'm 55 and still wonder why all English Bands wrote about so much WAR. Like War Pigs (Ozzy). They were born in the 40's .....i always wondered why till I got older and saw my main man Jimmy Page looking soo old and do remember his "satanism" people remind me. ug. love your stuff

    • @majormutant7029
      @majormutant7029 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget "Ramble On". (In the darkest depths of Mordor/I met a girl so fair)

  • @jaredmcdaris7370
    @jaredmcdaris7370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    “Commands Mandon to abandon Sansa” is fun to say.

  • @dylanium5755
    @dylanium5755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As for the wildlings and the others, what if the wall was built by the others and the first men working together to trap a large number of humans in the north as a sacrifice to the Others. And they are allowed to expand their number so the Others have more to take. Like livestock.

  • @samwinchester1326
    @samwinchester1326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I asked George about that song. He said "who is Led Zeppelin?" And I said "apparently a musician"

    • @BoHorn
      @BoHorn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no shot george doesnt know who led zeppelin is what the hell

    • @samwinchester1326
      @samwinchester1326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BoHorn u spotted my lie.

    • @BoHorn
      @BoHorn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samwinchester1326 i am very clever thank you

  • @ethancowles6061
    @ethancowles6061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Daddy glidus we simp

  • @BattyButtercup
    @BattyButtercup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    hilariously, the Frey Civil War is likely when most of the Westeros-based characters' romantic subplots will play out, by hookup or breakup or even marriage (though whether they SURVIVE past getting together is Another Thing Entirely). Every faction can benefit from marrying or preventing the marriages of Freys: different branches of House Frey hold The Twins (getting to & from The North), Riverrun (getting in/out of the Westerlands), Castle Darry (a good stopover between the Riverlands & King's Landing), and others still via being the last legitimate-ish heirs to Houses that have been wiped out during the wars.
    "Gatrhouse Amy", if given character development, could act as a rather literal Key for whichever faction gives her the best option as a groom. Amy is the current heir to Castle Darry, her sister is Lady Bolton & thus could very well prompt Amy's throwing in with Robb Loyalists OR with Stannis, depending on who's holding Winterfell.
    My HC is that Amy will marry the current knight of the Bloody Gate (I forget whether he's a Blackwood or a Talhart but he's Sansa-sympathetic), enabling Robb Loyalists in The Vale to get into The Riverlands, get Robb Loyalists/Stark Sympathisers in shouting distance of each other, and enable troop movement from East-West (& possibly South-North).
    ofc, House Darry was traditionally & secretly loyal to House Targaryen... so AEGON might get a foothold in the Riverlands (though it's highly unlikely any Frey will get a shot at courting him).

  • @bloatus7611
    @bloatus7611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The wildlings make plenty of sense if you think think of the wall as a literal manifestation of borders. That's where the line is drawn. It's arbitrary, may have taken some time to get there but it's defined by othering and exclusion and defended with violence.

    • @matt_9112
      @matt_9112 ปีที่แล้ว

      Picts and Scots didn't make sense in late antiquity Britain... neither did Germanic tribes north of the Limes or Xiongnu, Mongols and everything in the times between 😂

  • @johnwhelan9663
    @johnwhelan9663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Some theories I have not seen on your streams, unless I missed them: Myrcella is already dead and Rosamund is impersonating her; Frog Martell is the real Baby Aegon; Young Griff is the real Quentyn Martell (they were swapped); Bonifer Hasty is Dunk's descendant; Bonifer Hasty is the real father of Rhaegar (and Rhaegar's children whoever they are); Brienne is a wight since her hanging; The Dragon of Winterfell; Jon Snow "died" while warging a glamored Cregan Karstark, with Mel's aid.

    • @billychops1280
      @billychops1280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You must be a Preston jacobs fan

    • @johnwhelan9663
      @johnwhelan9663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@billychops1280 I've enjoyed some of his videos, but I don't see the connection you are drawing. Incidentally, I am as far as I know, the first person to ever propose the "Quentyn is Alive" theory, back in 2012. PJ did his own thing with it in 2015, which of course he has every right to do. But I am not particularly influenced by him. We agree on some things, to be sure.

    • @billychops1280
      @billychops1280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnwhelan9663 well he has made videos on many things that you mentioned and yes the quentyn is alive one as well, he thought of it years ago but only recently made a video about if

    • @johnwhelan9663
      @johnwhelan9663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billychops1280 Also, what theories has Preston Jacobs made on the theories I mentioned above? I am not aware that he has ever endorsed any of the theories I listed above. But of course, he is perfectly free to agree with me if he wants to.

    • @billychops1280
      @billychops1280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnwhelan9663 I think all except the bonifer hasty ones and the brienne one

  • @KlaraL-_-
    @KlaraL-_- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great! Love your take on all the theories! You seem like such a chill amazing person to be around :)

  • @filiprochette7793
    @filiprochette7793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I interpret wildlings as initially not being north/existing (they say thousands of years ago) of the wall. Because it was built to keep the danger away AKA the others. They gradually forgot what purpose it serves. The nights watchmen kept leaving and the word went around : if you want to live free from the kings you despise, go north of the wall. Huge clans built themselves. Natural rivalty occurs between loyalists and Exiles. Just like every other culture ever.

    • @ewanmacdonald8466
      @ewanmacdonald8466 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? How long does it make to build a wall that big and some people just didn’t notice or bother to ask, or were late when they closed the gate?

    • @Vahapetautus
      @Vahapetautus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ewanmacdonald8466exactly. When a reason for the wall becomes synonymous with a myth then why not escape tyrants and a shit life to live more free. No one has seen the others in hundreds of years so it’s easy to forget, dismiss it and even if it is true, what are the odds they come back during your time.

  • @kylez9094
    @kylez9094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    15 hours ago I was pooping my Brains out… 15 hours later and I’m done pooping

  • @joshwhalen17
    @joshwhalen17 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact: Sandy Denny is considered an honorary member of Led Zeppelin, and even has her own insignia in addition to the four on the cover of "Zeppelin IV".

  • @Max-oi4it
    @Max-oi4it ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Theory: the old gods/the weirwood net is actually a giant fungus that is as big as the continent westeros and the weirwood trees are basically zombified plants

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid ปีที่แล้ว

      You just combined the ophiocordyceps genus of fungi with the armillaria genus and turned it into a tree. Idk why but that pisses me off.
      Imo, the weirwoods are much more similar to the Hist from Elder Scrolls but we can go with your boring idea too. No biggie either way

  • @tiltedhaze
    @tiltedhaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The order of the green hand think that literally everyone is someone else from the past.. they don’t understand the literary device of echoing at all.

  • @saminator3563
    @saminator3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The wildling one. Maybe it was warmer back then and could support large populations far north, no need to travel south until the weather caused them to do so? No clue but like that concept, a lot to think about.
    Also, regarding if the wildlings sacrifice to the others, why did the wights run around the wildlings to attack the NW on the fist?

    • @Bitter765
      @Bitter765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I believe the others don’t want war it was only when the nights watch stopped them from collecting the baby they decided to attack

    • @saminator3563
      @saminator3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bitter765 you sir are brilliant. Too baked for that sir, a lot to ponder. The others are more human than the humans haha, maybe calling them human is a insult to them, i am sorry

  • @michabaron4129
    @michabaron4129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are wildlings just impoverished suburbs that didnt get shielded from systemic problems (like others/global warming/whatever interpretation of them) with all the richer folk

  • @aleenafox7775
    @aleenafox7775 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think if Sansa had been assaulted Petyr would have so kindly offered to marry Sansa to "save her" and consequently become the heir to the North.

  • @memeaficionado
    @memeaficionado 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think itd be a good twist if Ser Mandon tried to kill Terion because he was just genuinely a good kingsguard. Tyrion had struck/threatened/etc the king more than once, so when Mandon had the opportunity to remove a threat to the king, he took it. His justification for abandoning Sansa was that his first thought was of the King, which is kinda fair tbh. Yes hes Sansa's guard at the time, but hes also a Kingsguard

  • @thelizardwizard1113
    @thelizardwizard1113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “It’s a LOT more complicated for Sauron”;)

  • @brigittehuber9745
    @brigittehuber9745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This "Battle of Evermore" theory is funny...I always thought that Dany's red door was a reference to "Paint it Black" pointing out where her journey goes rather then hinting at her past.
    Looking forward to new content of yours!

  • @alexanders8638
    @alexanders8638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1:29:16 About Jon being in love with Satin and he should just admit it, it brought a scene from Disney's Hercules to my mind: Meg singing 'I won't say I'm in love.' So now I'm thinking of Jon singing a version of that.
    Its not a perfect comparison, just something that the part the video made me think of and giggle about.

  • @Taveren
    @Taveren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think that possibly r'hllor and the great other are Sort of like extremely powerful cosmic beings, Not gods with the G but like godly beings that exist on the same plane of existence as the weirwood network. Not like creators of the universe but like powerful beings

  • @carter9449
    @carter9449 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The "Petyr started Roberts Rebellion" theory is that Littlefinger came up with the Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna lie and told Brendan, who was coming after him for getting Lysa pregnant and running after her at the time. They would have all been at the inn at the crossroads at the same time, so he could have seen Lyanna go with Rhaegar and stretched the truth to piss off Brendan and deflect his anger to Rhaegar. It's not that he did it on purpose but rather he saw the power of a well placed lie, and used that to become the character he is in the present.
    The question is whether the rebellion is build on a misunderstanding or an intentional lie, and he was in the area at the time and had a motivation for telling the lie.

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna, that’s just a fact. Her willingness in the matter doesn’t actually factor in: she was legally Robert’s property at this point and Robert was massively dishonoured by Rhaegar’s action. The war started because a grown man couldn’t keep it in his pants and ran off with the wrong girl, that’s the long and short of it. Lyanna could have come out and announced that she loved Rhaegar (who she’d met twice) and wanted to be with him and it would not have changed the political shitshow that Rhaegar’s actions caused. He honestly knew what his actions would do, he must have foresaw how bad of a fuckup this would be. If he absolutely _needed_ a concubine with northmen blood or even stark blood, there were other daughters and cousins of the Stark family he could have kidnapped and very few people would have cared

    • @miketrujillo3677
      @miketrujillo3677 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emilybarclay8831 lol "legally"

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miketrujillo3677 yeah? Politics is kinda the entire point of the series? In every way that mattered to the people at the time, she was already Robert’s woman, to kidnap her was akin to kidnapping his wife. It was a massive direct dishonouring of Robert himself and his family as a whole. Maybe Lyanna was too young and naive to know better, she was just a kid after all, but Rhaegar, the grown ass married father of two absolutely knew better, he started a war to get laid

    • @miketrujillo3677
      @miketrujillo3677 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emilybarclay8831 lol all that for a 15 year reign that peasants almost immediately forgor 💀

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miketrujillo3677 15 more years than Rhaegar the kid snatcher got. 15 more years than his kids lived cause he left them to die

  • @danielkrob2590
    @danielkrob2590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Danny miscarried naturally, doesn´t that fuck up the Drogo is horse theory?

    • @miketrujillo3677
      @miketrujillo3677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If it breaks that its non canon for sure george would never leave out such an important plot point

  • @Taveren
    @Taveren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This just in glidus thinks stealing a child's soul is acceptable hahaha

  • @majinlilkek4367
    @majinlilkek4367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    glimbus do be gaming

  • @admadras
    @admadras 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    R+L=J but the R stands for Robert Baratheon

  • @danielleos3593
    @danielleos3593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i enjoy this videos a lot more picturing in my head a british Michael Scott.

  • @eljaiko555
    @eljaiko555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these streams & any Schwift + Glimbus combo! V entertaining x

  • @theguywithpants
    @theguywithpants 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really liked the talk about Zeppelin in the beginning. While we can look to the Grateful Dead and confidently pull inspiration it’s not as simple for other bands. I love Phish and a good handful of Phish songs may have ASOIAF vibes and symbolism, but many of those ideas are shared coincidentally and aren’t exactly inspired. Sure, a song like “More” by Phish could be inspired by ASOIAF, but that doesn’t mean it tells us what to expect. I don’t even think it was written with ASOIAF in mind, but regardless I like drawing those parallels.

  • @andromidius
    @andromidius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also, the Free Folk don't make sense if you're only using Westerosi versions of events. Why build a wall of ice to stop primitive people from going south while ignoring the hill people in the Vale who are arguably more of a threat? Why is there so much hatred towards them and vice versa (sure, the raiding and murdering, but what started that feud)?
    I wonder if the Free Folk are actually the descendants of ancient Night's Watch deserters/defectors. Maybe in the ancient past women were allowed to serve as well, which would explain why Free Folk women are so capable of fighting and survival themselves, meaning the more modern version of the Night's Watch not allowing women at all is because of the past events where they married and left the Wall together.
    Would also explain their name - the Free Folk. Free of what? They have a hierarchy within their multiple societies, after all - and even an elected king (multiple, in fact, over their history)! Maybe they are free of the Watch, and time has made them forget the reason for their freedom.
    Also explains the long standing rivalry very neatly. Because ultimately their cultural differences aren't that extreme to the rest of the North, and Iron Islanders aren't reviled to the same extreme as 'Wildlings' despite doing the exact same thing on the regular! The hatred is entirely based on a long forgotten (or suppressed) split in the Watch. Perhaps even the Night's King is actually an allegory for those events, rather then being a single man it was a large number of men and women who decided they didn't want to live on the Wall anymore and went the only direction available to them - further North.

    • @elinaw6175
      @elinaw6175 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool! I'm expecting something maybe akin to this, at least some explaination / exploration of the Free Folk and the watch. Hoping to see more Free Folk action in Winds. My HC for that is that Val is the princess in the tower who will slay the savage giant Whoresbane Umber.
      Princess and giant stuff is from one of the Ghost of Highheart's profecies :)

  • @ChickenNugNugz2
    @ChickenNugNugz2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:01:09 "use Santa's claim" to take over the north. Pffft, Santa is a Bannerman to House Stark, obviously.

  • @anarmy0fbees569
    @anarmy0fbees569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How the fucking fuck did i miss this

  • @mbglosser
    @mbglosser ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess it’s too late now, but GRRM is a huge Grateful Dead fan. There are references to them all over- like the Weirwoods, Darkstar, dire wolves, etc

  • @renaigh
    @renaigh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a theory, the Great Other is anyone I don't like.

  • @merengueatang4
    @merengueatang4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Broooooo i started this and the audio wasn't working and I watched "asoiaf=battle of evermore" with no context for several minutes thinking it was a bit and he was gonna start talking

  • @Muzer0
    @Muzer0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where is stream #4? Did you miscount? :P

    • @flopode.
      @flopode. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stream 4 is the one with Alt Schwift X

    • @cheangizzz
      @cheangizzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flopode. you mean Alt Snift Z?

    • @miketrujillo3677
      @miketrujillo3677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cheangizzz its cntrl alt delete guys

  • @sertank735
    @sertank735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She literally told her that “only death can pay for life.”

    • @miketrujillo3677
      @miketrujillo3677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah but then mirri kills a horse

    • @untroubledwaters2137
      @untroubledwaters2137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@miketrujillo3677 exactly! The horse was the intended payment.

  • @RobertF-zj2rm
    @RobertF-zj2rm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i heard that tomorrie, glidus. you didn’t get away with it!!

  • @skilledwarman
    @skilledwarman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    53:52 Huh... well then

  • @filbertrocko
    @filbertrocko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Acoustic Guitar: Jimmy Page
    Mandolin: Jimmy Page

  • @rubbish_kat
    @rubbish_kat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Why would the watch turn away wildlings." Yeah totally, it's not like developed countries today (or ever) turn away immigrants and desperate refugee 's all the time 0_0

  • @colecarnes4315
    @colecarnes4315 ปีที่แล้ว

    Danys master admiral was beheaded so she might need a new one

  • @dwideschrude5681
    @dwideschrude5681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a pretty dumb theory and it doesn’t have anything to back it up but what if Danys baby was born and Jorah killed him because he was told to by Robert ( he stopped the wine merchant so he could get the pardon himself and go home) I know it’s not really a Jorah thing to do and it probably has a ton of hole but I’m just thinking out loud

  • @MariaC497
    @MariaC497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I can not get your voice out of my head when I play Breath of the Wild now. Like the other day it dawned on me that Sidons plan to get randos to stop Ruta is just so fucking dumb its laughable. I so clearly hear you saying, "Hey Sidon, what was your plan man? You brought a fucking Goron to Zoras Domain without realizing you couldn't carry this giant dude on your back! You could have accidentally recruited a Yiga, who im sure would have been more than happy to kill you." Or "fucking dubious food. Fuck." Or, "yay! A wonder-horse!"

  • @britt581
    @britt581 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:39 wouldn't Tywin be the tyrant?

  • @ufowifey
    @ufowifey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    all hail glidussy

  • @etharchildres3976
    @etharchildres3976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:16:49
    Starting Dunk and Egg right now. Stay Gliding!

  • @filbertrocko
    @filbertrocko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yep not sure if GRRM liked Zeppelin. not sure. they are so many songs we can throw in. but we'd be here all year

  • @kalemboyle7930
    @kalemboyle7930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who the hell is Lead Zeplin?

  • @matthiaselser3117
    @matthiaselser3117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    at min 17 also simmilar imagery to when john and gost save mormont from the whites

  • @nunoRRsantos
    @nunoRRsantos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wildings dont want bend to any one

  • @stupidhandles
    @stupidhandles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goddamn that firewire

  • @rumor3553
    @rumor3553 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im so disappointed when you were trying to think of a grrm themed readathon name over march and April you didnt say a Read of Spring

    • @glimbus
      @glimbus  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well i wanted to make sure it actually happened, so that's not a great title to invoke

    • @rumor3553
      @rumor3553 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glimbus you got me lol

  • @filbertrocko
    @filbertrocko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Prince Of Peace Embraced The Gloom
    And Walked The Night Alone
    Oh Dance In The Dark Of Night
    Sing To The Morn Ing Light
    The Dark Lord Rides In Force Tonight
    And Time Will Tell Us All
    Oh Throw Down Your Plow And Hoe
    Rest Not To Lock Your Homes
    Side By Side We Wait The Might
    Of The Darkest Of Them All
    I Hear The Horses' Thunder

  • @jax0721
    @jax0721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    think i’m gonna bust bc i was not expecting this

  • @randompalindrome
    @randompalindrome ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is #4

    • @glimbus
      @glimbus  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      #4 is the one up on the main channel with schwift

    • @randompalindrome
      @randompalindrome ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glimbus thank you, these streams are very entertaining. Did you ever find out what the beeping was?

  • @ethancowles6061
    @ethancowles6061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yessss

  • @kpv5619
    @kpv5619 ปีที่แล้ว

    G L I M B U S

  • @ILikedGooglePlus
    @ILikedGooglePlus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    42:04

  • @justsomedude5727
    @justsomedude5727 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Mormont warged his own raven upon death.

  • @SW_FITNESS
    @SW_FITNESS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Siu

  • @Buford_T_Justice1
    @Buford_T_Justice1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you chill with the ads? Jeez!

    • @glimbus
      @glimbus  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      woah, i did not set them like that. i put them at 20-30 minute intervals, as i do for all of these VODs. i think youtube may have overriden the mid-rolls i set up somehow, and replaced them with its automatic "every 3 minutes" bollocks. i'll fix it.