Towing & Hauling With the Ford F-250 King Ranch Diesel + Ram 2500 Cummins Comparison!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ย. 2023
- We take a close look at this Ford F-250 King Ranch fit with a diesel and an eight-foot bed. Can it out tow our 2019 Ram 2500?
We hook 10K lbs to both the F-250 and Ram 2500 to see which is quicker to 60 mph. Watch the Ford f-250 King Ranch review and let us know what you think in the comments below.
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I’m a semi truck driver 33 years and have no use for that big King Ranch , 😮BUT I STILL WANT ONE
If you ever needed to pull out onto a busy highway with a heavy load you would see why 0-60 is important. That's the way it is on many job sites.
Exactly. It's about how easy it is to merge onto a highway from a standing start.
would you say 400 hp is enough for 7700 lbs?
Torque is way more important here then 400HP@@imnotusingmyrealname4566
That sounds good in theory…… but semi’s are pulling much more and merge into traffic every day
@thomasdavis5788 Yes, but "The Killers" (majority of incompetent, private car drivers commuting out there) tend to respect the size of Semi's and see them from further off and back off. They also know they will be slower. Doesn't stop them from then cutting the large trucks off, but they have just enough brains to know they won't fare so well if they rear-end a fuel truck.
But they don't seem capable of understanding that a pickup pulling a travel trailer with family is heavier and and takes longer to get up to hwy speed.
Having the ability to get that family rig up to hwy speed quicker is a welcome ability.
For all the killers out there, if a vehicle has to brake to avoid hitting you after you pull in front of them, then you HAVE cut them off. No matter how soft of a brake application they need to make.
Do better. Stop driving like unaware morons on the same public roads my loved ones drive on.
The biggest sell point for Ram is that you can work on it in youre driveway. You can change a starter or alternator quickly. You can even reseal the ram oil pan without having to remove the engine, like the 20-up powerstrokes. I do diesel repair, and went with the 23 ram
Lmao no you can't. They can't fix their trucks. Literally buying trucks back because they can't figure out what's wrong.
@brandonmacon3317 Really, where at? I haven't seen even a recall released for 2023 yet for the engine.
Nobody works on these in their fkn driveway, come on, that's a ridiculous statement. I doubt any of these people that buy these know little on engine repairs. They are glorified grocery getters and rvers
@spud2727 ya but if you're traveling and your alternator goes out. ...
Let’s be honest. How often are you going to do that?
2023 f250 specs show a massive trailer tow increase from 15,500 (as you mentioned) to 21,900 lbs. with a 3.55 locking axle and an upgraded capacity axle. A 6400 lbs bump up, a locker and an axle upgrade for only $500 (2024) on a $117K truck? Absolute no brainer in my opinion. Can't believe that truck was even built and spec'd that way. Even more puzzling that Ford made it available for testing knowing all reviewers would negatively critique these towing and payload specs.
The King Ranch trim is a beautiful option, but I agree I would never spec the gear ratio featured. Either way, it is more capable than the door stucker and registration suggests! Nice truck!
Great video. Not enough videos like this!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Just wanted to say i love the videos and have watched steve since TFL and followed over when truck king started. That being said the 1819 lb payload is insanely low for a super duty, my 2023 Chevy 1500 with the refreshed HO 2.7 4 cylinder and 4wd has a 1848 lb payload(and 9200 lb towing). Very luxury truck though! Bet it would get 20 mpg on the highway with those low gears!
Great video guys. The truck is beautiful.
Excellent review as always!!! 😁
Its a strange world when you can say "This isn't the High Output model". And it makes 475 Horsepower and 1050 lbs of torque 😅
I was checking out the numbers and between the standard 6.7 powerstroke vs the old 7.3 powerstroke (which many people hold in very high regard) the 6.7 had more than doubled the hp and torque.
@@chrisharris9115 I'm currently working in an ole 7.3L power stroke ambulance, seems to have plenty of power but these days it's all about having more than GM and Ram I guess.
@@MontanaMedic13 I had the 7.3 in my 2000 F-250. Half the fuel injectors went out on the way to work. Yeah it slowed me a little, but I was still able to get to work on time and climb a big hill on top of it. Some of these towing numbers now are just insane for a pickup to be able to pull. They’re on the edge of semi numbers.
Based on my ownership experience with a 6.7 Powerstroke the 3.55 was perfect for me. Easily pulled my 22’ equipment hauler. Trailer rated at 14k GVW. Pulled well & got good fuel mileage.
the long bed is amazing
hell yeah brother!
The payload number is a big part of why when I go back to super duty (currently have a F-150) I’ll get a 350. I’ve seen too many 250s squatting under a gooseneck horse trailer or 5th wheel for my comfort.
Good looking truck, I am biased to ram. In my eyes, it just keeps looking super rectangular. Just looks like a brick rolling down the road.
Love the 6.7 powerstroke. Best diesel on the market imo.
As long as you are working on it I agree
Not until they ditch the CP4. A ticking time bomb.
This front bumper's spoiler looks like snow plow. I would choose Tremor off-road package with 7.3 Gas engine. Great review as always. Greetings from Poland
I agree, the 331 gear sucks for pulling.
That's what my Ford has.
Quick correction: That isn’t the Alamo in the engraving. 😁 It’s a building on the King Ranch.
Suggest you do project on the scales, people, gas, luggage, my F150 has the same 1800 payload and it seems to evaporate when you load up. Also doesn't work with the likes of Road Active Suspension so not perfect. Had I known I would not have taken the option.
Big enough snow plow for an air dam on the front? Can't we just have the retractable one, like on someone of the half tons?
Is that GVWR on the f250 derated? I have a 24 250 king ranch with the HO diesel, tremor package, winch and moonroof and my payload is still over 2760lbs even with the heavier options. Something seems off.
I have this 10k lb gvwr on my 2019 f-250. It really limits your payload and I suggest people really examine changing needs before buying one. Otherwise you’ll be considering a trade within a short timeframe so you can haul a larger load.
Which always seems to be the case with trucks and RVs
Also scale down un luxury as this king ranch adds way more weight than like a xlt
I had a FORD and nothing but problems it spent more time in the service department than my driveway! I purchased a RAM and already have close to 100k on it and not one major issue!!!
My RAM is awesome and gets the job done.
I will never buy a Ford again😡
Thanks you just answered my question. I was debating between the ford f250 or ram 2500 Cummins
@truckingwithbigmitch5711
Lol...I have a Ford, not one single problem pulling heavy.....my buddy's ram has gone through 2 transmissions pulling a smaller toyhauler.
And don't get a 3/4 ton diesel....too limited on payload.
Ford was on a roll with the redesign until this binder. Head lights and the bed steps ruin the whole truck
There is no change in this truck a 24 to the 23 Hp and Tq is the same so what is the difference?
The new Ford is incredible at towing heavy 5th wheels in windy rainy weather more than enough power as well
Hi there! FINALLY, I found a Canadian truck review channel!
Info wise, ANY North American channel is helpful to me. But I also need info on trucks and truck pricing that are available to me here.
I'm looking at getting a new F350. I currently have an F150 3.5 egoboost that i bought new in 2013. It has been great. But time to trade in and up. It has been perfect for towing our 7800 GVWR travel trailer but I'm going to be adding a Quad that I'd like to bring along in the box when towing our trailer and in 2026 will be getting a larger trailer when we retire.
I'm going to get an F350. I live in B.C. I dont know if its the same in Ontario, but here we have to pay a "luxury tax" if I get a non commercial rated F250. But not if I get a 350.
I am aware 250's ride softer but there are other considerations that put the 350 ahead for me.
I haven't checked with the ICBC monopoly gangsters yet on whether or not there is a difference in insurance rates but I'm sure they havent missed an opportunity to squeeze that much more blood out of us.
I'm also going back and forth between deciding on a 7.3 gasser or 6.7 diesel.
At first, before going to a heavier trailer, the 7.3 will be more than adequate. But looking ahead to when I add a Quad, bigger trailer and our plans for trips from southern B.C. to the Yukon and Alaska and other trips we plan to do West to East and back, a diesel would be better. We will be criss-crossing the Coastal, Cascades and Rocky Mountains many times. Plus, on occasion taking other family members and all their stuff with us.
Diesels add extra cost to buy and maintain. Ive never owned a diesel but have 30 years experience driving various diesels as a commercial driver.
On the other hand, a 7.3 would be cheaper, lighter and less expensive to maintain. Also no DEF to deal with.
A diesel will be more fuel efficient for towing. We will be doing alot of that starting in 2026 but before that, only two or three times a year for hunting, fishing and Vacay trips.
Alot to consider.
I am going to build an F350 online this weekend.
What do you guys suggest I consider adding/subtracting for the purposes I've outlined above?
Also just had a Sales rep that was recommended by a trusted friend call me to let me know he has a couple of HD King Ranch trucks in stock if I want to come check out. They are new, but 2023. I know there's negligible difference between '23 and '24. But I hesitate to go with a '23 ANYTHING due to possible hangover from the prior couple of years of chip and equipment shortages and the shortcuts all manufacturers were taking during that time and the recent strike. But, no harm in going to look them over and familiarize myself with them. I subscribed and hit notifications now that I found a channel in familiar territory.
Anyway, what do you guys and all of you in this comments section have to suggest i consider when going through a build online?
Starting with, engine type, then 3.73 or 4.30 diff ratio?
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Most of these tests are fun but impractical, a couple of seconds, or ability to pull a few hundred more pounds should never be in the equation. Always have more capability than need. What I do enjoy are all of the features, and what I'd really like to see is the reliability. After a year or more, which brand and model had the most down time? I realize most of these videos are new vehicles, but maybe you can go back and do more videos like the review your dad did with his trip and how the ram handled.
Love the Auto EB on my 2014 Ram 😂
They should have specced the HO diesel with the 3.31 gears to make the combo even more hilarious.
That Ford talks that talk and walks that walk.😎
Just wanted to point out that the personal use exemption was raised in 2019 to 6500kg ( 14,300lbs ).
Thanks Tim. I am aware that in Ontario those laws changed, but I don't think that's the case everywhere. And because these things are so regional, we usually don't get into specifics as it's a bit different for everyone. - Stephen
3.55 rear with the short box for me.
I know this was not spec’d out by you, but I think you need to go two-tone paint schemes with the King Ranch.
I agree 100%
Guy's, when I hear the price of the truck, I need to wrap my head in duct tape so when it explodes it doesn't make a mess! Prices are INSANE!
I have to agree on the towing and payload specs. I think Ford specs their 250s to stay at the 15k mark and their 350 at the 18-22k mark as a distinction between both models otherwise why would you purchase a 350 when a 250 would do. I learned this the hard way when I bought a 2022 F250 “XLT” to stretch the capacity a bit more and still had to trade it in for a 350. Just can’t get around the leaf springs unless you get the heavy tow package with the 11500 GVWR and upgraded leaf springs. But if you’re already above the 10k GVWR, why not just buy a 350? It’s not really more expensive, odd to say. That’s what I did, problem solved.
Love The 2024 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I’ve never seen a new F250 with only 1800# payload that’s interesting.
Weird. A few months ago I got a similar F-250 (short bed) with the 3:31 gears and my payload is around 3100 lbs and I think can conventionally tow around 17K and with the goose neck around 22.5K.
I’m not sure what possible package caused that payload number that’s the payload rating from my f150 I think that’s a software bug to be honest
I’m still not sold on the new Ford 10 speed. I’d prefer the 6 speed Aisin or the new 8 speed coming in the ram.
Ford said it has more of everything but I didn’t hear more affordable
That Ford truck can carry a great deal more than it’s been certified to.
We really need to push for changes in the CDL and registration of these trucks. CDL for pickups and a trailer under 30,000 lbs combined should shouldn’t need a CDL. Obviously I’m assuming a 3/4 1-ton pickup appropriate configured for such a load. I haul a dump trailer. It would be nice be able to use a 1-ton pickup and a 16,000 to 18,000 lb trailer rating without a CDL. The reason I say this is the current technology on pickups and trailers makes these vehicle many many times safer to drive today than 20 years ago. Stopping distances are almost 1/2 the distance of the 1980’s trucks that were the foundation for the CDL standards.
It would also help a lot for small businesses that haul smaller loads 15,000 - 20,000 lbs.
CDL forces people to train how to handle bigger loads. Most people are ignorant about anything involving trailers, load management and heavy payloads.
It's says online it can pull 21,000 pounds
Poor payload...definitely need a 1ton for a diesel HD. Otherwise the 3/4 should be equipped with the gasser to get decent payload.
Or don’t get the 10000gvwr downrate package.
I wonder why these trucks are so tall compared to the 1980’s… or am I forgetting … it seems the trucks from the 80’s were at least 3” lower?? I could be wrong
they were
Because that gvwr is so low you get forced into luxury tax in Ontario
Commercial vehicles with higher gvwr don't have to pay the luxury tax in Ontario. My 23 silverado with 11400 gvwr was exempt
I wouldn’t buy that spec either Nice truck but the GVWR & payload numbers are more important to me.
I miss Canadian Tires 😥
Why do you all test the superduty trucks with 10,000k trailers? That is no challenge and they make quick work of them. My GMC 1500 with the max trailering package makes quick work out of the 30 foot 9,000 pound trailer I pull. You need to test the SD/HD trucks with 15,000 pounds.
Something is wrong with that Ford build sheet. That truck should have a payload well over 3500 lbs if ordered correctly. There is a heavy payload option and with the 8’ bed, your going to exceed 2500 lbs often for work and loaded up with tools and people
How in the world is that F250 payload lower than my F150 lol. I even have the same rear gear.
I have 2023 ford F150 crew cab 4x4 with the V8 and my payload is 1883lbs.
For a F250 that payload on the test truck is really low.
My 2024 GMC 2500HD has a payload if 3400 lbs. Strange that particular F250 is so low.
My 2023 F250 with the 6.7 HO has a payload of 3300 lbs
I’m typically a Ford guy but the Super Duty get uglier with every generation. This one is the absolute ugliest thing I’ve ever seen.!
Guess you haven't seen the chevy HD with the Vincent Schiavelli front end..
Nothing changed from 2023
Sure hope the super duty gets the new F150 tailgate
That on board scale is a waste, because you've almost maxed it out without putting anything in the bed or back seat. Nobody is going to stop loading stuff because of that scale.
You're probably right about people just ignoring it. However if you had a lot more payload (around 3k lbs capacity let's say) I think it would be more useful as you wouldn't just be in the red all the time. - Stephen
that's how payload when towing heavy works....
I wonder if the onboard computer saves information kinda like a black box. Would be scary if it did and insurance could access it in the event of an accident to determine if they will pay out any claims.
@@ALMX5DP It's great for used buyers to know if the truck was abused, this is a reason why I wouldn't buy used trucks or cars
@@ALMX5DP solution is easy: don't overload your truck
2:15 - I am afraid the front looks like an enlarged mid-size truck one.
The payload is limited by the GVWR package, so adding the heavy diesel engine is not good. This truck is a poor demo vehicle which makes me wonder why Ford would even loan this out for a show like TK.
Yeah this thing is crap. No one would want this setup if they know anything. This would be the one some accountant would order to save money.
but 3/4 ton is 1500lbs of payload
So this is a ford commercial
Ford destroyed 🐏 Ram again, l love it.😂 Great video guys
All funny till it's constantly at the dealer like mine was because of inferior parts, workmanship, and design. Mine was in 14 times within 33,000 miles, traded in on a RAM AND NOT IN THE SHOP 1 TIME IN 40,000 MILES. And my Ram pulls a trailer constantly and the Ford didn't. Keep on laughing if you enjoy that Ford being in the shop
@@kevinwilliams8773 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You ford guys seem to forget the decades worth of inferior diesel combos produced by ford. Just wait the new one will prove to be a dud in time.
@@aaronkelley8909 Exactly, everybody I know except for one person has had terrible problems if they actually used it for something besides getting groceries or going to Starbucks.
@@kevinwilliams8773 funny guy🤣
No one cares who is faster, it’s about the all around experience. I still think the Rams are nicer inside…
And will stay out of the shop
Says the guy with the last place turtle
its better looking than the chevy,gmc twins or the ram.
Negative, but to each his own.
Wake up buddy
Some people like the chevy HD Vincent Schiavelli version....now THAT'S an ugly truck!!
Power tailgate on a truck just... loss for words at the pointlessness of that. I get dampened... but a power tailgate???
Also... this thing has maybe 400lbs more payload capacity than a base Maverick??
I'm sure the truck can actually handle more payload and more trailer weight than that. Do the authorities pull you guys over and check all that shit in Canadia?
They do indeed
@@mtbrdude interesting, I'm not sure about every US state, but the ones I've been in dont have any laws like that outside of the commercial setting. The only laws I've seen leave it very open ended for "unsafe loads" or similar verbiage.
Here in Nova Scotia Canada they do not pull you over and check the #'s only if you are registered as a commercial user
@@mtbrdude no they dont
1800lbs payload out of an F-250 with an 8ft box is laughable. Is it for hauling bags of leaves to the dump? 😂
Maybe a couple packs of toothpicks
Wow, I know it's a Powerstroke, but still that does seem a bit low. Kinda strange that my F-150 has like 250lbs more payload than this.
It all comes down to the GVWR. Being at 9900 this truck weight 8100 pounds. If you chose the F350 it is gonna weight the same 8100 pounds but with 12,000 GVWR so 3800 of payload. Simple math
@@sledforpeace
Don't try and explain it to m0r0ns....there's a reason Ford offers this powertrain in a
That chin spoiler is ridicules for an offroad truck! Nathan at TFL pointed that out twice because it is true and Andre had to tell him to stop it pointing it out! Why is that? The GM trucks didn't have it.
What makes it an offroad truck?
@@ALMX5DP I would think being 4 x 4 gives it a little advantage off pavement? But that front can hardly clear a curb if at all without rubbing the spoiler.
@@bradh7472 sure, though 4wd does not have to automatically mean it’s an “offroad truck.” 4wd comes in handy in a variety of different scenarios.
@@ALMX5DP That is very true, most dont even "offroad". Mostly used for snow/ice sand/ mud. I get it, its still such a big piece of plastic hanging down. I like the AWD vehicles too .
Ugly ford . Gm took the crown of HD pickups . The Gmc Sierra is more fuel efficient and Has a better ride plus the front end looks bad ass
😂 the powerstroke is more efficient and has more power
@@freedomisntfree_44 it’s still big and ugly 😂
@@user-pg8ng5td1i
Nothing is as ugly as the Vincent Schiavelli version of the chevy HD.
Ram still looks better than both to me. I prefer the GMC to Chevy and Ford is my least favorite.
I love how all these folks want to point out the gm step, yet gm dodge Toyota Nissan all of them have copied multiple times over a lot of ford tech. Plus don't forget gm has said those are girly steps. Real men don't need s step. Yeah so that didn't see well
Not complaining about truck king in particular, good review guys.
Dodge ? 🤣🤣🤣 Dodge has had zero to do with Ram trucks since 2010 when Dodge a d Ram split i to different brands . Chrysler builds them in ex Chrysler plants which are now Ram plants.
Oh please are you really gonna scold me on daddy issues? Okay they were dodge no wait Chrysler not wait pugoht no wait Daimler not wait stilantis no wait, is that really better?
@@AussieDazza
Lol!!
very load payload! no good.
This is at least the second video that you have tested a larger truck and driven over gross weight. Not sure of the wisdom of that decision, but it makes me less inclined to care about your experience with the vehicle. Not sure its a good business model.
10k is nothing for these trucks
Damn canadians, it is NOT the Alamo. Do some research before you do reviews. SMH.
Damm Americans
@tundy4959 I don't see Americans doing canadian truck reviews and getting the details wrong... wait... there aren't any canadian trucks in America to review... so stfu.
If that’s not the Alamo then that’s on me. It certainly looks like it. Howard
@TruckKing Looks like it?! C'mon now, you are getting paid for these reviews, least you could do is get the facts right. No, it is not and does not look like like the Alamo. As a Texan, I find this offensive. Makes me want to go into this business of truck reviews, at least I'll do my homework and get the details correct before I post assumptions.
That Ford is an ugly stodgy brick. I can't get passed how bad the outside styling is.
Who cares about 0-60 leave that to the sport cars, if you're trying to go that fast while towing then you're going to be in trouble.
getting a load up to hwy speed breeds confidence, ive never heard anyone anywhere say they would like less power for anything
@@454budman I do agree that having the power is nice, but sometimes the confidence it gives you can lead to a false sense of security. With ever increasing power and towing ability, more and more regular Joes are towing super heavy without a potential understanding of the actual weight and what is necessary should an emergency occur.
Most people do. It’s called pulling into highway speeds in which you need that extra oomph. But I get it. You’re a ram fan boy so you discredit it. Stay sheep lamb
You don’t tow, do you.
@@ALMX5DP thats something for the buyer to decide. Ive been pulling loads my whole life starting with my old lb7 dmax, i can say trucks now handle loads way better than they use too. Pulling a 18k lbs 20 years ago vs today is way different and safer due to technology. You can listen to them old timers talk about those 7.3l powerstrokes and how badass they are but they couldnt pull a string out of a cats ass.
Fake video everywhere know the Ram charger is better than this truck
yeah a 6rfe wouldnt really make it through a video this long without needing an overhaul
You’re fockked!
@@454budmanI thought the same but then got a good deal and bought one. 208,000 miles so far.
Ram is clearly a winner
Right!!!... I'm not buying because of 0-60
It matters whem pulling into traffic, especially of a site
Gm trucks look way better
Said no one ever
I disagree
To each their own. Both look good on outside, you should buy what you like. It's your money. I liked the F250 interior more and it's ergonomics. We spend more time looking at and using interior and that plays a factor.
It's close but I do actually like the look of the new GM trucks over this refreshed SD. Before there was no contest in favor of the Ford, but this redesign gives it a weirdly large headlight proportion. That being said, that's just styling which I can easily get past as it's really only about how it works and performs.
Anything looks better than a Ford Super Duty. An extremely ugly car.