The Time The Vikings Almost Moved to Birmingham... Twice
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ต.ค. 2019
- In the 1970s, the Vikings tried relocating to Birmingham. Then, in the 1990s, they tried doing so again. This is how we almost got the Birmingham Vikings
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Gotta love the 70's. It is -1 degree and the cheer leaders are out there in short skirts.
I have to admit it: I loved that World Football League intro.
Cold is a state of mind- Bud Grant
I don't believe they had a choice lol
Minnesota in the late 60s and through the mid 70s we’re footballs version of Camelot. The vast majority of the core stayed together for more than a decade. Football was made to be played outside in the cold. Bud Grant is still going strong at 93
They probably had hand warmers down there lol
Man when u hear those numbers from the 70's its surprising that Alabama didnt end up with a team at some point
Only in the USFL, WLAF, XFL, CFL, AAF
Football in Alabama is the Crimson Tide, although the Oilers/Titans and Panthers are in states also known for their college teams (Tennessee Volunteers and UNC).
I guess Im quite off topic but does anybody know a good site to watch newly released tv shows online?
@Karter Clayton i watch on Flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
@Trace Elias definitely, I have been watching on FlixZone for months myself =)
Point - “The weather wasn’t doing the team any favors in the box office”
Counterpoint - the weather helped the team reach 4 Super Bowls in 8 years and haven’t been back since moving indoors. The only away playoff game in that span was at Dallas in 1973. They should probably move back outside.
Hmm interesting the Packers and Bears play outside while the Lions and Vikings play inside.
Competitiveness and money are two different things. It doesn't matter that the Vikings were one of the best teams of the 60s and 70s during their run at the Met, only that fans wouldn't show up to games due to the weather (and remember, this was before the advent of cable and on-demand).
The Vikings in general are one of the NFL's more successful teams, being the winningest team to have never won a Super Bowl. It hasn't helped with their perpetual stadium or attendance issues however.
Brilliant point Judge Bork! The visiting playoff teams were eaten alive by the Artic wind descending from the north....then the Vikings repeatedly went limp in the Supper Bowl.
Preach brother
I have never thought about that before I knew they had the SB trips but didn't think about the fact that they all took place when the played outdoors
Birmingham Legion FC will be an MLS expansion team before Birmingham ever gets an NFL team.
The Vikings were also one of the many teams that also considered a move to Los Angeles, California during the 21 years that LA did not have an NFL team.
True and after the Rams left in 1995 the Seahawks who were tired of the crappy Kingdome did move their offices to Anaheim. However due to language in the lease the Seahawks couldn’t leave.
feels like everyone and their dog considered a move to Los Angeles
@@rerumusic9621 And the Cardinals almost moved to Baltimore in 1986, but the Bidwells went with Phoenix because the weather was better. Baltimore had teams then in the USFL, CFL where they won the Grey Cup before the original Browns moved to Baltimore.
But only the three teams that had played in LA before applied to move there. Hmmm
Like they hadn’t already stolen enough professional sports teams from Minnesota
The channel I didn't know I needed in my life.
Ditto!!
This was very interesting and I had no idea that the city of Birmingham tried to lure the Vikings to Alabama twice. Not mentioned was that Birmingham had the "Stallions" of the old USFL too.
This comment aged well because the Stallions are back and are the only undefeated team in the USFL.
@@davidrussell3827 well at least now they have the New Jersey Generals to compete against
The WFL intro was just amazing.
I know the city wouldn't go for it, but with the Vikings new stadium, they really should have went with a retractable roof, and then open it up every December. The home field advantage the Vikings got from the Minnesota winters definitely helped them, even in their 2015 playoff game against the Seahawks.
That cold weather advantage has evaporated with the team playing indoors for most of their games. Plus a retractable roof in cold snowy conditions would be a maintenance nightmare. US Bank Stadium is what they needed
What sense would it make to put a retractable roof on a stadium and open it up in the freezing weather?
I doubt the NFL would allow such nonsense.
It would cost too much money to put a retractable roof and US Bank Stadium that’s why it wasn’t done. However if the stadium was totally privately financed then no problem. As long as the taxpayers don’t pay one penny of it.
A move to Birmingham could've been viable for the Vikings in the '70s. However, considering the shape that Legion Field's in as of 2021, even its last tenant, UAB football, wants no part of it anymore. UAB's moving its football program to Protective Stadium at the BJCC.
That and Birmingham and Alabama as a whole is a dump lol.
@@mo_jamma9091 so _that's_ why it constantly smells like trash everywhere I go.
Nothing like dodging billets outside Legion Field in Birmingafghanistan
@@tyelerhiggins300 bama is one of the oldest sunbelt states so it got a lot of time to change right? Lolllll
@@jamessimms415 UAB usually gets alerts because of bad things happening near the stadium lol
It was the Philadelphia Bell, not the Stars....though there was a team called the New York Stars.
The Philadelphia (later Baltimore) Stars played in the USFL.
@@jeffreyhuckel8727 and won 2 of 3 championships and came within a field goal of sweeping the championships.
The Stars were Philadelphia's USFL team.
Those WFL attendance numbers on a church ⛪️ night in AL at that year, was phenomenal. 😳
Here's one near-move for a team you should do: the New England Patriots nearly moved to St. Louis; it was only because Robert Kraft, who owned Foxboro Stadium, refused to let the Patriots out of their lease that it didn't happen...
The Vikings are the epitome of regular season heroes and postseason zeroes. The franchise rank among the very top in all time win-loss, division titles and playoff appearances. And only once have had three losing seasons in a row(over 50 years ago). But no rings. They are the best of the worst, and the worst of the best.
Well Said! My dad actually had hard feelings with me when I turned my back on them after the 2011 season. I told him "You can only have your heart broken so many times"
he replied "Bullshit...your no true fan". I'm ashamed to admit that I still can't watch and haven't since 2011. Your comment is spot on!
@@bridesblade5307 Try being a Lions fan
“Imagine you had to leave the airport and go through TSA security again…”
You just described SEATAC until about 2003.
As a Vikings fan I’m happy I heard about this
Red McCombs wanted to move the Vikings to San Antonio at the Alamodome.
The Alamodome wasn't big enough to host an NFL team
It is the same size as the original Texas Stadium but was a lot nicer inside. It was built to attract a new franchise or move an existing one in. It would have been to small to ever host a Super Bowl (as was Texas stadium). The old Texas Stadium was a horrible stadium. The hole in the roof allowed the sun in and with the addition of 60+ thousand folks it would get extremely hot in summer on the field. They had to call medical services for several players at halftime on numerous occasions. The Metrodome and Fords field hold the same.
As a Vikings fan I didn’t know a little this. Very informative video
I am a diehard Vikings fan, and never heard of this. Wild!
Did you know Minnesota almost got an AFL team?
Being someone who grew up in Alabama and lived there for practically 21 years, if there was a football team in Birmingham there would never be an empty seat. You're talking about an entire state who greets each other with roll tide and war eagle rather than hello.
Pro sports aren’t popular in the South.
@@JohnDoe-od7ye because we don’t have a lot of pro football.
Facts
@@RileyChrisman naw Atlanta and Dallas doesn't want the competition in some areas
@@Know26874 the saints own Mississippi and Alabama and Arkansas.
During the Mike Lynn era, there were constant rumors of moving the Vikes to Memphis, because Mike had business ties there.
Same with the Coliseum. The Coliseum was for football only, but after the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles from Brooklyn in 1958, the gridiron had to be fixed up to accommodate ML baseball until Dodger Stadium was built and opened in 1962.
I didn't know whether the World Football League was gonna play football, or explain how a bill becomes a law
90s nhl
Jets moved Arizona
North Star moved Dallas
Hardford moved to Carolina
Quebec moved to Colorado
Also 90s NHL Atlanta got the Thrashers in 1996 & their first game was 1999. What’s funny is Atlanta had the Thrashers in 1972 but a few years later they moved to Calgary to become the Flames. The Atlanta minor league team of the late 80s to early 90s moved to Quebec to become a minor league team there in 1993. Finally the Thrashers moved to Winnipeg in 2012 to bring back the Jets. After all the teams left Canada in the 80s and 90s Atlanta has single handedly sent 3 teams back!😂
@@patrickwhelpley1745 Wrong. The Atlanta Flames began in 1972. Nelson Skalbania, who owned the WHA Indianapolis Racers, bought the Flames and moved them to Calgary. The 1980 recession hurt the Flames' attendance.
The Thrashers began at in 2000. The pathetic Spirit Group ran the Thrashers, at the time a division champion, into the ground and sold them.off at a loss for a tax write off.
@@patrickwhelpley1745 the minor league team actually folded
@@penguinsfan251 Imagine had the Racers not folded until the league folded in 1979. Where would Gretzky have ended up?
Hardford? HARDford?
"The weather didn't do them any favors," don't say that to Rams fans during the 70s.
My die hard Rams fan buddy says Tom Mack still hasn't moved!"
Do you undertand the meaning?
@@dantankboy4155 yeah, he's still pissed.
I am a Rams fan. California weather is better.
3:10 This is what you have to do you're transferring from the International Terminal to any other terminal at LAX Airport.
I was totally about to say the same thing. Sounds like LAX to me
I can vividly recall conversations with my dad about Birmingham getting an NFL team.
We’ve supported all of the teams that have played in B’ham and I do believe that there will be a NFL team there one day.
The new stadium is almost finished and Legion Field will be used for the upcoming summer games, so I see the city making another push for a pro team shortly ... except this time, they have the stadium to back the offer.
So we aren't even going to mention the shit fit the Atlanta Falcons throw every time a team in Birmingham is mentioned?
Oh man -- we need that WFL intro isolated.
If it weren't for WFL broadcasts, I would never have heard about Fireman's Fund insurance.
You need to do a video of when the NFC West only had one team that was actually in the west. Here was the division before the 2002 realignment:
San Francisco 49ers
St. Louis Rams
New Orleans Saints
Atlanta Falcons
Carolina Panthers
What are you talking about. St Louis is west of us.
@@TheEWFX29 St. Louis is right smack dab in the middle of the country. No one considers St. Louis a western city. NO ONE. It's considered the Gateway to the West but it's not the west. Anyone with any sense of geography knows that Missouri is part of the Midwest.
@@Rockhound6165 A. a joke B. On the east coast everything west
of Pittsburgh is west. You should know that if NJ stands for New Jersey.
Before Carolina Panthers, the Rams were in Los Angeles before 1995.
@@thunderlightning1980um, we're aware. Still doesn't take away from the fact that from 1995-2001 4 of the 5 teams were not in the western part of the country with 3 being in the southeast/mid Atlantic.
This is some underrated content. You deserve more attention
Sometimes I question how a mid sized city like Birmingham or Memphis could sustain an NFL team, but then I remember that Green Bay has about as many residents as Auburn and Opelika,AL combined. If the fan support is there, people will travel to see them.
Green Bay is on a class by itself. Win 13 championships and the fans will come.
Green Bay pulls fans from Milwaukee, where they used to play half their home games
The Packers play in Grern Bay but they are Wisconsin's team. They have fans throughout Wisconsin.
Alabama already has an NFL team (the Crimson Tide)
Lol, that's a good one.
the shittiest nfl team of any given year would crush the tide of any year
Nice joke but UA is in tuscaloosa not birmingham
@@wavytiger1 Also Matt, water is wet at 70 degrees F
@@dantankboy4155 Also dipshit, the sky is blue. Blue light is scattered more than the other colors because it travels as shorter, smaller waves.... duh!
I will never pay to keep a team from leaving. Why should taxpayers be held hostage to millionaire players and billionaire owners. If anything the NFL should be paying taxes .
There is a great book titled "Field of Schemes" that teaches how municipalities are wasted by these stadium deals. Cincinati is in fiscal hell due to the bengals.
Minnesota did lose the North Stars to Dallas...and lost the Lakers to Los Angeles. Metropolitan Stadium was antiquated when it opened. I'm rather sure today the Mall of America was built on the site of Metropolitan Stadium.
home plate is still in Mall of America (or was the last time I went there)
@@drewagoosa68 Home plate is in the middle of the amusement park, and there is a seat up on a wall where Harmon Killebrew hit the longest homer in the parks history
I remember they almost moved in 1997, but didnt ever hear about the 1979 attempt. That is really interesting. I was born in November of 78' so mabe thats why I didn't hear about that attempt lol. And for Birmingham to have nearly 50,000 fans on a Wednesday night, a church night, in Alabama, in the bible belt. Where the University of Alabama was king, lead by one of the greatest Bear Bryant. Alabama still is the king of college football, and also has the greatest coach of this era. Probably of all time. Great upload.
Nah Clemson is
@@richardtherichard26 Hahaha! 🤣
This was very well made
THEY FUCKIN' SHOULD HAVE. WE NEED A PRO TEAM.
What if Birmingham got its own nfl team what could they be called? Throw some ideas in
They already do...University of Alabama
@@andrewbishop4447 Would love to see Skyhawks.
Andrew Bishop Birmingham Blacksmiths is one I’ve always been fond of
Ford Frost28
I like this one
Would Birmingham Spiders be cool?
Their colors could be like black and desert brown with white idk lol
"Imagine if you were at an airport, went to your gate and then decided you wanted to eat at one of the restaurants inside the airport. Now imagine that you had to leave the airport and go through TSA security again just to do that."
So...imagine you're flying out of Kansas City International?
"Birmingham Vikings" just doesn't have the same ring to it. While I do live closer to Alabama than Minnesota (thus meaning more opportunities to go to games), really glad they stayed in Minneapolis.
And I am just loving every second of those Chris Carter TDs.
@@jvanek8512 Or the Utah Jazz. Although Colts had more of a connection to Baltimore, it works in Indianapolis. The same with Flames in Atlanta and Calgary.
Birmingham Barracudas did not make sense, since Birmingham is 200 miles from the Gulf coast.
The met stadium-airport analogy accidentally described the MSP airport. Coincidence?
Future Video:
"The Hungarian Who Toppled The NFL"
The content: The AFL and NFL fought like cats and dogs in signing college players, but the two leagues had a gentlemen's agreement to not steal each other's players after they signed.
Pete Gogolak was a Hungarian-born kicker for the Buffalo Bills and the New York Giants signed him away. AFL Commissioner Al Davis loved it and went to war threatening to steal all the NFL QBs and the result was the NFL wanted to merge.
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!!!!
One comment, the music is too repetitive for background. It starts to pop out at you.
Problem with the Metrodome is it was already obsolete by the time it opened. It was at least one of the last of the cheap, dual purpose stadiums built during that era.
That building almost cost us the Twins too just a few years after it opened, and a couple other times after that. They almost moved to Tampa in the 80s, North Carolina in the 90s, then were almost contracted entirely in 2001.
But as bad as the Metrodome was, it was instrumental in the winning of two World Series for the Twins.
Columbus Ohio's airport is like this. I got off one plane, had to leave the main area.....then re-enter the other wing to catch my next leg of the flight.
Very interesting video.
The Birmingham area does have a professional football team. They may play college football, but they're professional-caliber.
I thought UAB dropped the football program? 😏
I would love to see Alabama get a nfl expansion or nhl expansion team
Would a football team there be able to compete with the college game at the box office?
@@DoctorEw220 it depends but Alabama needs a major pro sports las Vegas has the golden knights of the nhl and the raiders pro football could work if ice hockey works in Vegas pro football could work in Alabama
For years the Tide played their biggest games at Legion Field.
2:36 this is a sorta good idea to prevent seat thief drama
As far as the airport analogy, that's exactly how the Tampa airport is setup. You come in a central hub, ride a tram to your concourse and then go through security. If a restaurant or shop you want is on another concourse, well tough luck.
I heard Vikings were moving to Antarctica at one point. But, the Scientists objected of the idea.
We just gonna ignore that Tom Clancy almost bought the Vikings
Chargers should move there now
I predict in two years your chargers will move back to San Diego. I think the NFL did everything it could to keep the Raiders out of Stan Kronke's Los Angeles and now that your Raiders are in Las Vegas all safe and sound, just you watch your Chargers (under new ownership) go back to SD.
1:51 - I must ask: what is this clip from? I'm referring to the shot of one player in a Minnesota Twins home uniform and another player in a Washington Senators road uniform walking across a field.
I suspect that it is probably from a 1961 game between the Twins and the expansion Senators, and that you included it just to illustrate the two names together.
But if it was some kind of transitional promotion showing the move of the original Senators to Minnesota, then I would be most interested to know about that.
Fun Fact: The 1961 Senators eventually became the Texas Rangers.
I've seen it before and believe you're right about "promoting the transition".
The franchise free agency era is why Tagliabue isn't in the football hall of fame, the only NFL Commissioner yet to be inducted.
Can you do one for the Giants moving to New Jersey?
How did you forget the Birmingham Stallions of the USFL?
He didn't. The USFL didn't happen until the 80's, so the Stallions had nothing to do with the temptation to move to Birmingham.
@@LiberalsAreTrash But there was talk after Trump took that league down, that Birmingham, Michigan, Baltimore Stars were the 3 teams that if merged into the NFL would of survived.
@@jared7263 Still, the video was about the Vikings almost moving to Birmingham, and the Stallions had nothing to with that since they came in afterwards. The numbers the WFL team was putting up was the temptation, because the WFL was also considered a minor league type league by the NFL. The WFL team was what got the Birmingham idea started before the Stallions ever existed.
@@LiberalsAreTrash again to correct you. He mentioned both the WLAF and the CFL, both leagues/teams being there in the 90's. I suggest you re-watch the video.
@@jared7263 Michigan? How exactly because the Panthers merged with the Oakland Invaders for the 1985 season. I think you meant to say Memphis, however, I believe the Jacksonville Bulls would have been one of the teams. Fun Fact, though. The Stars probably could have competed in the NFL.
Lmaoooo DTW airport is like that. You have to leave out between terminals
The Boston Patriots played in many different stadiums during their first several AFL seasons. They became "New England" after they moved to Foxborough in 1971.
The Vikings never played a game in the AFL. Rozelle lured them to the NFL and was happy to have them play in Metropolitan Stadium rather than in the AFL. After the merger was complete and the NFL became a monopoly, they forced the Vikings to get a better home.
That was a late-in-the-game scenario, the ownership group shunning the AFL at the last minute. The AFL had to scramble to replace them, and that's how the Oakland Raiders were born.
Having grown up in Minneapolis I can confirm what JAGMAN is saying. Metropolitan Stadium was fine for baseball. But it was a lousy football stadium. It got cold and windy. But it did give the Vikings one hell of a home-field advantage especially when they play the Rams for the NFC championship in 1973, 1974 and 1976. Southern California boys could not take the cold.
One more note about the Vikings. They were originally going to be part of the American football league in 1960. But the NFL had decided to expand and they offered Minnesota a team. Which of course the Minnesota investors took because the NFL was the more established league.
So the AFL was down to seven teams before the first season. They were able to find some investors in Oakland to be the eighth team which would replace the Vikings in the AFL. And of course that team became the Oakland Raiders, then the Los Angeles Raiders, and the Oakland Raiders again and then finally and hopefully forever the Las Vegas Raiders.
Regarding any NFL team moving to Birmingham there is already a professional team in the state of Alabama. The Alabama Crimson Tide. and if you don’t think they are professional you are not paying attention especially in the last year and a half or so. And Birmingham is only 58 miles away from Tuscaloosa. I know that because that is what Siri told me.
A little surprised that the potential relocation of the Vikings did not include the difficulties involving the collapse of the Metrodome. I'm sure there were talks about the Minnesota Vikings leaving the Twin Cities again.
There were talks of it, and the Wilfs even took their private jet to LA in the thick of the stadium battle. It was a hot debate on public vs private investment. Them threatening LA was one of the last straws.
I’m glad they got the new stadium, I feel it is a rare case when public funded stadiums do help a city out, the neighborhood was disgusting when the metrodome was around. US Bank was built and the neighborhood was majorly renovated and it’s like night and day now there.
Small point, but Minnesota did have professional baseball before the Twins. The Minneapolis Millers and the St. Paul Saints both played AAA baseball, and they even played occasional crosstown doubleheaders. The fact that the coming of the MLB eliminated two baseball teams probably influenced the old logo of two baseball players smiling next to each other, one with a "M" on his jersey and the other with a "S" on his. The literal Minnesota Twins.
The St. Paul Saints still exist, and recently they became the Twins AAA team.
@@drewengel7073 - Yes, but it's a resurrected Saints. I remember when they played Class C ball in Midway Stadium.
Ok, after watching 6:00 you have to make a video about the WFL!
Of all my life, I never knew that Alabama tried to get an NFL team. Twice
I think the Jacksonville jaguars would be a perfect fit for Birmingham.
At Browns to Baltimore i got kinda choked up!
You know what could be a fun video. Before the XFL Vince McMahon tried to buy the Vikings and the Entire CFL.
The Packers and Bears play in outdoor venues just fine. The cold weather excuse is a copout.
It is alot colder in Mn than wisco or illinois.
@@joshcaron1601
No, it's not. Lambeau is further north than US Bank Stadium and Soldier Field is far windier.
@@lastguyminn2324 yes it is colder in Mn than wisco by a fair amount. dont be dumb dude.
@@joshcaron1601
So what's your source, dude? I've lived in both states a total of 54 years. Temperatures in winter are roughly about the same.
@@lastguyminn2324 source is google, i looked 15 coldest states, plus i live in Mn for 40+ years, i was at the viking seahawk game in 2017 dont get much colder than at, ofc we lost on a botched fg but thats normal.
You forgot that Birmingham had a team for three seasons in the USFL.
Don’t forget about the Birmingham Stallions of the USFL.
I remember the first time in 1978 as Max Winter wanted a better stadium for the Vikings. Plus, losing the franchise would be devastating for Minnesotans.
2:55 that's littlerally how O Hare's international terminal works.
Fun fact, the Mall of America is now on the site of Metropolitan Stadium
And home plate is marked at its original spot in the Nick Universe theme park.
@Last Guy Minn I think everyone and their dog has known that since 1992 old new s
The Vikings only exist because the AFL was going to put a team there so the NFL granted Minnesota an expansion franchise. They did the same with Dallas. So the Minnesota team moved to Oakland to Become the Raiders and the Dallas Team moved to Kansas City to become the Chiefs. Footnote, both of those teams beat the Vikings in a super bowl.
This also applies to the Falcons, as the AFL had awarded then Falcons owner Rankin M. Smith Sr. an AFL Franchise, so the NFL counter-offered him with an NFL Franchise; Smith went with the NFL.
A somewhat similar situation happened to the Bengals when founder Paul Brown wanted to join the NFL but ended up agreeing to join the AFL after he heard about the plan for the AFL & NFL to fully merge in 1970.
Actually the franchise that became the Vikings was the AFL franchise. In an attempt to kill the AFL in its infancy, the owners of the AFL franchise were lured over to the NFL. In response, the AFL decided to go head-to-head with another NFL team and put a team in the Bay Area, and so were born the Oakland Raiders. The Dallas Texans were Lamar Hunt's team, so the NFL created the Cowboys to directly compete with the Texans. After three seasons in Dallas, and winning the 1962 AFL Championship, the Texans surrendered Dallas to the Cowboys and the Kansas City Chiefs came into being.
@@FusionCyborg Brown was a dick about it. He considered the AFL team a vehicle to get back in the NFL. But, he forgot where he came from. The Browns were in the AFL precursor, the AAFC. The NFL constantly called the AAFC not up to NFL standards. When the Browns came into the NFL, Commissioner Bert Bell deliberately scheduled the 4 time AAFC Champion Browns to play the 2 time NFL Champion Philadelphia Eagles. No one gave the Browns a chance. Final score: Cleveland 35, Philadelphia 10; and it wasn't that close. He became an NFL snob who thought anything other than the NFL wasn't genuine football.
Dr. LEE-MACK- phonetically
6:30 looks like the Alliance Football League logo
Fact: The Minnesota Vikings had won the same amount of Super Bowls at Metropolitan Stadium that they had won in the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome and whatever stadium they play at now: 0.
They almost moved to San Antonio too when Red McCombs tried to move them to his home town. He also tried to get the Raiders to move their in 2018. The San Antonio Raiders would have been awesome, IMO. Same jersey colors as the Spurs. Same winning tradition. Texas football. State rivalry with the Cowboys? That would work.
Red McCombs threatened to move the team to San Antonio. Glad that fell through.
Yeah, can't imagine a bunch of Latinos rooting for a team with a mascot that is a blonde haired gringo. Lol
He soon found out that the Alamadome didn't meet attendance requirements for the NFL only 50 000
I never knew this
As a Vikings fan in Birmingham, I had no idea this happened and now I’m pissed 😂
With my team playing in the same division for years against the Vikings, it would be sad to see them move. Don't get me wrong I always want the Lions to beat the Vikings both times every season and of course I never root for the Vikings vs any other team. But I respect the rivalry and the Vikings great fans and it would be really sad to see a team get uprooted and it would heartbreaking for the fans. I respect the teams in the north division and I don't want to see fans in my division heartbroken for moving I just want them to be heartbroken if my Lions can ruin their season lol but unfortunately this is the Lions and they rarely break hearts of any team.
Love u lions bro
I remember the days when the Lions could not beat the Vikings.
From 1968-74 the Lions lost 13 straight to the Vikings.
Maybe they should tho maybe they could be like the Tide & be dominant in the NFL & actually win a few Super Bowls lol
If i were an owner and thinking about moving my team, Birmingham would be at the top of my list of locations. So many possibilities. The Crimson Tide fans would come running. Re-name em the Barons. Crimson uni's, The crowd singing Sweet Home Alabama. It would be amazing to see it I'd think.
as a lifelong Vikings fan, who was born in Minnesota and now lives close to Birmingham, I had no clue
It was the Philly BELL, not Stars- who were members of the USFL. Also, speaking of the USFL, no mention of the Birmingham Stallions???
Also, the fact that the stadium was in the city of Bloomington, not Minneapolis, had something to do with low attendance!! When the weather turned bad, who will drive in the snow to Bloomington?
The Bell were in the WFL, the Stars played 2 years in the USFL in Philly, then their last season there represented Baltimore but played their home games in College Park, MD
@@rockvilleraven No shit. In this video he called the WFL Philly team the Philly Stars. Thus my comment.!!
If Birmingham got an NFL team, they'd play second fiddle to the Alabama Crimson Tide.
I'm not joking. They're run like a pro team, they pull revenue like a pro team, their regional fan base is at least bigger than any NFL team in the south. They keep expanding Bryant Denny because there's such a demand for tickets. If the university could put in 40,000 more seats tomorrow, they'd sell every one of them. Plus most people I've talked to are so wound up into their Alabama or Auburn fandom that they couldn't really be bothered with getting behind an NFL team too.
The Birmingham Stallions of the USFL did well too.
I love in bham and we are still waiting.....they are building a new stadium downtown for UAB for some reason......
*sigh* I wish we can get a pro team in Alabama
0:09 Like hell. The place is a fucking carbuncle.
@7:09 Philadelphia Bell ... Stars were the USFL team
Correction:Another reason the Braves moved to Milwaukee was because they were overtaken by the Red Sox.
As someone who has visited Birmingham, one too many times. I always found it odd that a state that religiously loves football like Alabama doesn’t have an nfl team.
There are bigger markets than Birmigham. They did have a World Hockey Association team.
@@penguinsfan251 the whole market argument has always been stupid to me. You’d rather put a team in a huge market that would be lukewarm about the team than somewhere like Alabama that would be a smaller market, but every game would sell out. New Orleans, Buffalo and Green Bay are small markets all the same size or smaller than Birmingham… three of the most passionate fanbases in the league. If the NFL ever goes to 36 or 40 teams, I feel like Alabama has to get a look. Other than London, Toronto and maybe Austin, there aren’t any cities that would be locks. St. Louis lost the NFL twice, the Chargers didn’t really move anywhere, they are still in SoCal anyway and most people in San Diego are still Chargers fans. Oakland.. no. I guess Memphis but Tennessee already has a team. 🤷🏽♂️
@@tristanmullen8015 I do t cate if you think it is stupid or not. You can go on your little tirade. Market size matters when negotiating local and national telwvision contracts and the number and amount of corporate sponsorships, as well as the potential for selling the luxury boxes and club seats.
Why do you think the NHL waited fir years to put a team in Seattle?
The Thrashers left Atlanta because their ownwes, the Spirit Group, drove the team into the ground. They wanted them gone.
Some oeople do not like facts.
@@penguinsfan251 An NFL team would have no problems selling out suites and boxes or getting TV dollars in Alabama. Hell.. Alabama and Auburn’s stadiums hold 90k + and each have about as many luxury suites as NFL stadiums and they are always sold out. The Saints have no issue selling out boxes and suites. So why would an Alabama based team? If it works in Jacksonville and NOLA, two cities that are about the EXACT same size as Birmingham, it’ll work here.
As a former Raiders fan and someone who lives by Oakland, I just want to say Minnesota got lucky
My sympathies (from a Bills fan). But, I actually support Govt leaders who don't incur massive debt for their city or state. The Bills are about to beg the city, county and state for a lot of $$$$$$.
No, we didn't get lucky, we got our pocketbooks fleeced by a billionaire who can't put a winner on the field.
Birmingham's a curse if you start a new football league.
There were also the USFL Stallions
The airport scenario you described is real. You often have to leave the airport and re enter TSA to get to your connecting flights. Worst. Airport. Ever.
I dont have to imagine that airport thing. That happened once.
There was no parking at the metrodome
In the 50's a PRO BASEBALL TEAM existed in Minneapolis - the AAA MILLERS. Minor League Baseball is PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL.
True dat. St Paul had minor league baseball for quite awhile too.