Paul Murray breaks down the ‘potential future’ of Australia after vape ban
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- Sky News host Paul Murray breaks down the Pharmacy Guild’s backlash to the Albanese government’s vape ban.
“What an insight into the potential future of this country,” Mr Murray said.
“The place that you will get your vapes is the chemist.
“And then in places with much more liberal drug laws, what other things will your chemist eventually end up stocking?”
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It's about tax.
💯 % spot on
tax the entire illegal drug trade of the trillion plus illegal drug trade and age restrict tax drugs for sale to adults
Yea why ban when there is an opportunity for some tax revenue.
My wife and I quit smoking in 2019 and 2017 respectively, moving to vaping. At the price of smokes in 2019, we saved on average about 10k a year EACH. Both our health got way better, less problems with breathing related illness. We don't smell, still get our habit serviced, obey all the rules of politeness etc etc etc.
It's all about tax. It's never been about health, it's just about tax.
billions a year they make off smokes in tax its a good business for them
This is so corrupt.
And taxing by the mass and bans its corrupt too,
Yeah they keep all the shit that’s killing people (tobacco, alcohol, vapes) legal and yet recreational cannabis growing and use is illegal. What a joke. 😂
In the highest order
Yeah they even block New Zealand websites that supply vapes. And funny thing, No Dr is certified to prescribe vapes. I can't find any in Sydney so far
@@mnm8818 and why white ideology dominated coalition’s do only more harm then good
Big issue in Australia Vaping. These clowns. Dont worry about middle class homelessness or our immigration problem or cost of living.
Or every 2nd person high on meth...
The only way I could get off of cigarettes was to switch to vaping. I feel heaps better. You don't see them banning cigarettes.
Likewise
100% agree. I felt better and didn't vape as much as I smoked. Plus I didn't smell of cigarettes and saved heaps.
Exactly, I started vaping 5 years ago after quitting smoking never went back or had the need to smoke
I feel so much better and it's better not smelling like a chimney 24/7
I have noticed when around people who are smoking it disgusts me the smell it's horrible...I keep thinking to myself that's how I used to smell
And I stopped driving with a Tesla 😂
🙋🏻♂️
This country is a prison.
I once served it.
Never again.
I’m not going to lie I vape, I used to smoke like a chimney but am using vaping as a way of gradually weaning myself off nicotine all together. This government is being big brother trying to turn people like myself into criminals, if I want to vape I should be able to. If I want to smoke I was allowed to. They are trying to micromanage my life as a consenting adult. I don’t think any sane adult wanted kids to have access to vapes, but guess what the black market is going to do it anyway like it does with any thing that is addictive. So many better ways this could have been handled yet that drongo Albo picks the hardest most ridiculous way ever and not only that he killed many businesses and forced copious amount of people back to cigarettes.
Just quit.
@@grahamhutton1633 Your lack of understanding is immense, I quit smoking by vaping.
@@grahamhutton1633spoken like a true wank stain
I agree, even to their ad campaigns to Dic irate how we think and brainwash people,to obey their ideals and authority givin to intact unfair laws like a. Full nation ban,etc and other bad laws put in place over the decades, this is why coalitions suck!!!
And at least in America by the constitution and 1st admandment, such smoking rights protected and wher overturning it is impossible even by right to arms on a number of subjects too!!
It doesnt make any sense, it's already illegal for the under age to drink and smoke. So why ban vaping for everyone?. Why not make it illegal for the under age to vape because that's the gist of issue?.
It already is, at least, it was. It used to be that you could buy vape products from vape shops as long as you were 18+. They couldn't sell nicotine, but nicotine was available to all adults via import from NZ, China, or the UK. I used to purchase raw nicotine from NZ, store it securely in my freezer, and add nicotine to nicotine-free juice that I'd buy from a legal vape shop. It was a loophole, but it allowed adults to access vaping nicotine, while keeping it out of the hands of kids. Kids still probably vaped, but they also smoked before vaping, at least there were barriers in the way that they'd have to try and get around, we didn't have disposables so they'd have to go to a vape shop and buy a device, a vape shop would ID them and refuse sale if they were underage because they were actually subject to regulation. They made the import of nicotine illegal and began siezing imports. This meant people who wanted nicotine had to turn to the black market, the black market has no regulation and no ID checks. Disposables also weren't popular prior to the ban, but they happen to be a convenient package to sell on the black market. Before, the problem the government had was "we don't like adults vaping because it's bad for them", so the government banned vaping. Now the government is asking "why are kids vaping so much and why are disposable vapes littering the streets and waterways???". They created the problem. Should have just kept it the way it was, or even better, bought in the system NZ had.
most road accidents and acts of violence are caused by vapes. Wait, no that's alcohol
So do you want alcohol banned?
@@MattSmith8591 His point is, they never will ban alcohol OR smoking cigs no matter the risks associated with it because its far too profitable.. Its not about anything other than money.. Taxing something they already collect tax on, paid for by money you paid tax on earning..
Whether you are for or against vaping makes no difference, its the government wanting a bigger cut by any means.
looooooool
The cost of smoking tobacco in this country is bloody ridiculous. By the way we need a PM with at least half a brain and huge balls, to stand up to the woke wankers and nanny state leaders.
But our healthcare is decent
@@VapeAu LOL
@@user-sp4gy7ko5l you right lol , people taking life/death medication should pay full price.
We should have to pay $1000 just to call an ambulance, it's all lol until you need the service
@@VapeAuthat’s debatable
@@VapeAuyou mean like the experimental injectables that the grubbermint coerced people to take?
It’s all about tax. I swear to God Australia has become one of the worst countries to live in by far!
Over $ 8 Billion a year in Tobacco taxes.
Police state
If it was, they wouldn’t have banned flavoured ones (95% of sales, probably)
Dear Mark Butler,
I hope this message reaches you despite the challenging circumstances.
I am deeply disappointed by the recent decision to proceed with the vaping ban in Australia,
especially in light of the significant concerns raised by experts and health professionals, including myself.
As of July 1st, all vape shops across the country have been forced to close, leaving thousands of people without jobs.
This outcome was avoidable had there been a willingness to listen to evidence and consider harm reduction strategies rather than an outright prohibition.
It's disheartening to see that the ban was only passed with the support of the Green Party, whose influence led to a watered-down version of the legislation.
While I understand the political dynamics at play, it is clear that this compromise does little to address the fundamental flaws in the ban itself.
The reasoning behind the ban, purportedly to protect children, rings hollow when weighed against the economic devastation and loss of harm reduction options for adults.
It is evident to many that this decision was driven more by emotional appeals than by a rational assessment of the evidence and potential consequences.
Australia now faces a situation where a thriving industry has been dismantled overnight, with no clear benefit to public health.
The opposition has already pledged to reverse this decision upon taking office, underscoring the lack of consensus and foresight in your government's approach.
As someone who has benefited from vaping as a tobacco alternative for the past 15 years, I am personally affected by this shortsighted policy.
There were viable alternatives, such as regulation and taxation, that could have both supported the industry and contributed positively to public health outcomes.
I urge you and your colleagues to reconsider this decision before irreparable damage is done.
It is not too late to acknowledge the unintended consequences and seek a more balanced approach that respects the rights of adults,
to choose harm reduction strategies while protecting youth through effective regulation.
Please reflect on the broader implications of this ban and consider the opportunity to rectify this decision in the interests of public health,
economic stability, and personal freedom.
Sincerely,
____________
Email the Health Minister NOW ! mark.butler.mp@aph.gov.au
Governments can't have people smoking vapes as it will affect the amount of cigarette tax they bring in.
You don't smoke vapes. You are however 100% correct in your statement.
@@user-sp4gy7ko5l spot on most the people I knew were using vaping to get off ciggies so gov was losing tax income.
14 Billion $
I do not need to be told what I can and cannot do at my age. If I want to vape I should be allowed to. They don't ban anything in Canberra. Bet all the politicians are vaping.....
And having a sly bong or three.
If that’s the case why should my tax dollars pay for your smoke related illness
Cocaine and heroin possession is legal in Canberra.
Its funny how alcohol never follows the same rules.. its the same in canada.
Because Alcohol in Australia is soooooo over taxed & still rising!
@@philthomas7140 Alcohol was considered an "essential" business during lockdown lol. Its not treated differently because of high taxes. Every other "legal" product a vape shop sells has taxes on it from GST to import taxes. Cigarettes, Bongs, pipes, smoking papers, chop bowls, grinders, weed vapes, cannabis extracting machines ect. The point is, why are the vapes being treated like some medical therapy to get you off the thing that the government sells you to get addicted.
A lot of austrlalia alike of Canada laws,is and NZ, if you haven’t noticed
And alcohol can be our alternative to patrol and last forever compared to patrols dn diesel and renewiable as natural gas and a fuel to last forever!!! Even to power our plants,cars etc!!
@@enok7934 Put down the meth pipe Banjo.
FU TH-cam FOR THE COMMENT CENSORING.
INDEED FUCK TH-cam!
I agree but I don't think u will see this as I seem to be censored
The censoring is full on in the USA as well, the pretend you are not censored when you are and also on other platforms as well. It is not a reflection of us, it is a reflection of them, they are ugly and selfish to the inner core.
@@anakinyamum3069neither of you are
Chemists dont have the time or staff to also take on selling vapes. Ridiculous and short sighted premise.
They will have to allocate a little corner kiosk and rotating staff to attend.
I guess if you don't understand the premise of the idea, it might seem a little confusing..
It would be the nicotine that is under script, nothing else in the vaping liquids in a controlled substance, therefore no legal requirements.
This idea has been tossed around for some time now, nothing new.
@@fredflintstone6729 I think they're wanting to sell actual juice that they'll limit on nic content and flavour selection, not raw nicotine. It shouldn't be behind a script anyway, I like nicotine, I'm an adult, I can choose to drink, smoke, I can buy caffeine from a servo, why can't I decide I just want to be able to use nicotine and make my own choices how I consume it? The same goes for smokeless tobacco products too, I used to like snus when I lived overseas, can't get that here though. They just say it's all as bad as smoking and therefore cigs are the only option you should have, it makes no sense to me. I wouldn't argue any method of consuming nicotine is healthy, but the government seems to want to insinuate that they're all every bit as bad as smoking, which is a lie. We can evaluate risk on a scale, it doesn't need to just be a 1 or a 0, either it's 100% safe or it's guaranteed instant cancer. I don't understand this attitude our gov seems to have.
I wish they'd just left it the way it was, where we could freely import nicotine products from new zealand without a script, it seemed to keep a lid on the black market too, because as soon as that ban happened the under the counter service station disposables seemed to explode in popularity.
I don't want to bother my doctor, waste their time and consult slots, and lie to them that I'm trying to quit, when I have no intention of it.
@@fredflintstone6729wrong, all juices even their base ingredients are banned.
Choose a vape hand over some dollars nothing hard about that transaction,they've got time and people to sell jewellery, cologne, homewares and all types of other silly shit they've got plenty of time to ring up a vape
More restrictions-what a cnt of a country we've become over last 25-30yrs.
Absolutely, when we became governed by foreign shores. God bless America and the Peoeples Republic of China. 🙄
Protecting the kids, so now do you need a script for red bull or any other sugar laden crap ?
No but they can get a script for vapes apparently under the new legislation
It's all about taxing it
@@philthomas7140 Red Bull is taxed to all hell man!
Dont give these Government idiots ideas i bet you Energy Drinks will be on a Prescription Next.... not even joking Lmfao xD
Over regulation. It's time to deregulate everything.
Well said,even as peopel in the US have pride In deregulating stuff everyday and why their nation is awesome as they say!!M
With in reason , we don’t want to privatise the ambulances
Vaping wasn't much of a problem to government until disposables came along, then people were quitting cigarettes in droves. So the government is losing bulk cash on cigarette tax.
It was actually Juul who released salts to the market, Australia missed it because it was big tobacco.
However Australia loves buying Chinese products 😂
Exactly that was it!!!
Can't OZ make even a tiny step away from Fascism?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Oh mate. I love the comment.
But NO
I smoke a vape but not disposable. I purchased 20 years of nicotine before it required a pescription. About to buy a heap of vaping machines. Then when i do run out, i will find a way to purchase - go the black market!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reckon we'll be able to get then still from these tobacco shops under the counter?
There's 10 million Australian voting adults who value and enjoy vapes tobacco cannabis and alcohol and we demand government representatives who actually serve our interests,drop the excessive cruel and unusual excessive tax on tax placed on top of the original high taxes,end the prohibitions and regulations blocking mass industry creation opportunities in vapes tobacco cannabis and alcohol and create many new Australian owned industries and long-term employment opportunities that vapes tobacco cannabis and alcohol can provide
I encourage you to check out the Libertarian Party of Australia and their policies.
Well said
"A lot of pollution because of vaping" I'm not sure she understands pollution and vapes at all.
I see pollution when someone is vaping and foulclouds of moisture and bacterial are being blown into our air and you cop it if you walk past at the wrong time or if the vespers don't think it wrong to blow out in a house while you are there my air is polluted god knows what is happening to their brains .
There is with the disposables, I see them discarded all throughout my home town. Never seen a reusable discarded in the streets though.
@@Mato2530 Then ban disposables. Anyway, to call tiny quantities of trash "a lot of pollution" is asinine. A single large dumpster or thereabouts per year, out of _80 million tons of garbage._ Not even a tiny rounding error.
@@dixonpinfold2582 I agree, it isn't as bad as the lie she sprooked to us, but still worthy of action. Though, banning disposables would make it impossible for people like my elderly neighbour to keep off of the cigarettes... just not technically apt enough, and not physically able to maintain a reusable.
Meaningful and honest conversation must be had between ourselves and our "leaders" (I use that term o so very loosely), not dictation over us.
@@Mato2530 "Meaningful and honest conversation between ourselves and our leaders" I can't decide if that's more quaint-sounding or outright hilarious.
All the best and thanks for your cheering reply😄
I used a vape to quit smoking cigarettes and then stopped vaping. It's a bit difficult for metropolitan vape stores not be located within walking distance of a school; every type of store, including those that sell sex toys, pornography, and brothels, are within walking distance of a school, or even several schools
Yeah, in my city there are two vape stores, both within walking distance of several schools but... so is literally every other shop? Including the tobacconists, the sex shops, the strippers, at least 2 infamous brothels that are extremely hard to miss and everyone knows about. Who did they ask to find out that it was a "deliberate" choice to set up shop within "walking distance" of a school? The entire CBD of my small city is surrounded by schools and has schools in it. Are vape shops expected to set up shop out in the country in the middle of some farmers field?
not your life to dictate how we live , what we think what we say.. politicians are your greatest threat to your health
If cigarettes didn't cast $50 for a packet we wouldn't have a vaping epidemic
Australia is such a nanny state. All for taking measures to make it non accessible to kids. But imposing on adults is ridiculous.
Moronic labor and the greens!
Shut it. Vaping good for profits!! Time to shut down tobacco and the Sly News losers. Time to charge the lying Murdoch and jail the toxic creep. 🤮👍
UK government gives them out free to help quit smoking, and apparently it's working too.
Exactly the health benefits are unbelievable, sWapping from cigs to vapes. I cant believe a government would force its people back to cigarettes. WTF
@@juliehebbe9091 When I was about 12 ish years old, cigarettes were about $2 a pack. My mother told me as a young man the government was making $1M a day in taxes at the time. I'm not quite sure about the current price ($60 I'm guessing ) per pack and the associated tax is the reason they're pushing to remove vapes. Of course they will tell you it's the cheap Chinese vapes with poor ingredients that's causing the damage to people. Simple fix of regulation and supply of quality vapes would void this argument but again, less taxes. There's probably a backhand of under the table cash from tobacco and pharma (for treatments) as well. But I'm just speculating. 🤷♂
What about the working people who owned legitimate vape stores for 10yrs +, employed vast amounts of people, where are they now ???
brought to you by the people who enjoy a subsidised bar at their workplace.
What a joke labor and the greens are.
No. All sides are criminals and work for the same master.
Can you imagine creating a business in an industry for over a decade. Complying to all the laws that have come through. And then to be told you have less than a weeks notice to completely shut down your business or face jail time.
These vape stores have been compliant and are the ones being targeted with this. The new reform does jack 💩 about stopping the black market.
This will not stop teens vaping. The black market will get worse.
Funny how cigarettes and alcohol are not banned but harmless vapes are banned
So its bad to sell in a shop but in a chemist where its all about health they are selling vapes??
Doesn't that tell you something? Vapes arent dangerous
You might be delusional
@@little_boy_bluep4922 uh huh that's nice....next
@@jhamer18because people are scared to get cancer, tell a vaper they have cancer and they will laugh and fact check you..
Makes the og's look bloody bad
People have already died from vapes
Vapes aren't highly taxed..... yet.
Watch this space. It's all about tax
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like vapes or cigarettes. Lungs are made for oxygen. But, when she said pollution 🤣🤣🤣 I legitimately burst out laughing. Better one liner than most comedians
It won't stop the black market.
Look at the ASTRANOMICAL TAX on Alcohol in this Country and nobody does a thing
Less people vaping, more people smoking, more taxes collected. It's all about money !
We need less laws not more..what is wrong with labor and the greens.
Mate. Come on. You think there are 2 major parties? They are all the same. People need to wake up to this
00:31 nah the number one behaviour issue is school is still social media zombies.
Not many teens are vaping now that's true
I dont smoke, i dont vape. Why is it only vapes are being baned? Cigarettes are horrible
Get off my arse labor.
You carnt make this shit up
Pollution because of vaping! WTF! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The TGA is the body that makes the rules.
The TGA is funded by pharmaceutical companies. (Not government funded)
The TGA change the rules so vapes can only be sold by pharmaceutical companies...
How is this not a conflict of interest?!
I remember having such pride in ny country, all they care about is bleeding us dry 🙄
It all starts who you give your money to, people buy Chinese products but complain nothing is Australian made
They don't ban cigarettes or dope or drugs that are injected in the arm i saw 2 little needless today just sitting on the footpath.
You know most recreational IV drugs are already illegal right? Even prescription medicines are illegal when used in a recreational manner. Shut up about things you can't understand
Free needles and you are still complaining fucking boomers man if ya scared go to church
pharmacies is because they can control (tax) vapes
I gave up smoking 18 months ago, because of vapes
And that's what they don't want
@@digger3594 exactly! Not enough taxes
Looks like you got to start smoking again 😅
It's definitely about tax more then care for children....my question is now how much will someone need to pay on there road to quitting....all other quitting aids from the pharmacy are expensive pretty much same as if you continue smoking....it's part reason why vapes was a good alternative the cost was significantly lower therefore encourage people to have a crack quitting...the government apparently wants people to quit smoking don't make me laugh the money made on tobacco tax is out of control and any quitting aids are out of control with cost so many people continue to smoke....it's a win win for the government it's a loss for the people addicted....
If they're chemist only products why not allow for all the flavours?
There will be a slew of vape only pharmacies open soon, pharmaceutical vape shops
Vaping is a moral dilemma, but LGBTQ in kindergarten is our moral obligation!
''Federal Govt'', federal crime syndicate more like...
Just like with tobacco now in Australia this will just bring a more unregulated black market for it. Most of us are smoking chop chop now already
When will our government stop trying to "save" us?
This is authoritarian
Albo is disgusting
just the fact chemists will sell vapes but never cigarettes , surely shows , vapes are better than smoking , and a great way to give up smoking .
soon they will be telling us what to eat and when we can sleep
Whay do you mean soon? They have been doing that for years.
They advertise McDonald's to kids too, and now they're all fat and diabetic. Where's the outrage?
fat kids bad!
there...good enough?
They promote their poisonous food with a clown so then the kids will come back and eat more poisoning shit.
Fast food should be regulated as well if that's the case
Letting your kids eat Macca's everyday and getting fat has nothing to do with advertising and everything thing to do with lazy parents
@@Paul-lk4np So does giving them money and them going to a vape shop to illegally buy vapes. But that's not an important argument apparently. At least McDonald's is legal right?
@@enok7934 McDonald's is food. You can go to the butcher and make home made burgers with cheese bacon ECT ect and make them with just as much calories. But we don't ban butchers. Food vs tobacco argument is plain stupid. Eat anything in moderation and you will be fine. Same doesn't apply to tobacco/ nicotine
Clear indication that they just want to control the market.
Buying them from the chemist just makes them unaffordable and impractical. You need a script to buy a vape, but not required to purchase cigarettes that you can buy anywhere easy as.
Why can't we just replicate alcohol laws for nicotine products? You need a licence to sell nicotine products and reasonable boundaries to sell and buy nicotine products,.
I've been vaping for over 10yrs, that's cigarette free for over 10yrs... I tried many nicotine replacement therapies, vaping is the only one that got me off the cigarettes and kept me off of them. I got my health back and I am actively working to kick the vape as well...
Vaping is causing more pollution, please give me a break. I have just come back from 6 weeks in the UK and let me tell you people are doing more vaping than what we are doing in OZ. Government should do more on crap processed food as that’s causing more health problems.
Went to vaping after 30 years smoking. Two years later im not on vapes and have no interest in tobacco anymore. If its so detrimental then why arent other quitting products significantly cheaper.
HOW DARE YOU QUIT TOBACCO.
Bought to you by the NSW Grubberment.
@@user-sp4gy7ko5l 😂
Criminals not makeing any money of vapes only smokes .
well now I can pick up my Panadol, vape and weed in one convenient location.
Pollution haha
Definitely a lot of pollution.
I thought that Vape shops should be made the regulate vape products.
$420 for a carton of cheap cigarettes in Perth is absolutely brutal with how much the price of everything else has also sky-rocketed since covid, and now this. This government is an utter failure.
Yet black market cigs cost $110 per carton.
@user-sp4gy7ko5l Oh? I don't know anything about black market cigarettes mate, are you saying the other $300 a carton is government tax? Not sure what you mean exactly.
@@Nox210 I mean that i can buy a carton of cigs for 110. I can hook you up man. Give you an address and all. Just ask.
Get ready to stand in line for your arthritis medication with a bunch of vaping teens.
May as well just let the tobacco shops sell them.
Would make much more sense...😅
Too be fair I don't support a vape ban if someone who is a adult wants to vape and its not hurting me let them vape it's better than smoking according to my knowledge but still not healthy it's because there no tax like cigarettes so they need some way to make money off the smokers giving up tabbaco and moving to vapes
In 2017 Public Health England presented the UK govt with their assessment: Vaping carries 95% less risk to health than smoking, so the govt should pay smokers to vape - actually _hand them money_ - in order to improve their health and lower health-care costs to taxpayers net of such a subsidy. (The Tories demurred.)
Absolutely but many have a very short memory akin to a goldfish, particularly alarmists. In 2020 was also a study of 400 vapes on what they contained … only one sample had toxic ingredients. But let’s not let facts stand in the way of a good cash cow for governments.
You're the problem, tobacco should never be mentioned in vaping facts but you gotta make the errors look nice 😂
@@VapeAu Is suppose you think I was critical of that PHE report to the govt. I was not, not in the slightest.
Do some vaping to sharpen your attention, return to my OP, and re-read it.
Anyway, reference to tobacco smoking is 100% germane to discussions of vaping. Vaping is saving the lives of countless smokers.
@@dixonpinfold2582 it's to save smokers NOT TURN E liquid into tobacco, vape quality has gone down the last few years because they just want to be FASTER then tobacco.
@@VapeAu Sorry, I can't even make out your meaning here, first part or second.
If it’s not taxed it’s illegal, this is how big phama get their finger in the pie, just another way to test and trial unknown participants just like the jab
Who do u trust
Anyone who has touched this legislation to remove my ability as a grown man to choose what I take into my lungs other than cigarettes (which I have been inhaling pharmacy free for 30 years,) will never see a vote from me again. Now I'm limited to three flavours from the chemist under a doctors note? That's around $50 to see a GP for a prescription plus whatever the cost of vapes are under the chemist. So foolish, doing this to vapers - yet not even touching cigarettes that still are freely available at over $30 a throw .. the hypocrisy of these morons.
The UKs swap to stop campaign in Aug 2023 the UK government gave away 1million vape kits to people who wanted to stop smoking!!
I will continue to send my money to NZ buy my nicotine online and MAKE MY JUICE AT HOME.
Im 42 ive been a smoker since i was 13.
smoking was costing me 13k a year im not buying anything from the goverment because its over priced and not what I WANT.
I now spend 100$ a year here is a tip for the Goverment you just made the black Market very happy
Also to note the pharmacy are selling dope and have been for years you can get it in bud form and even vape its all about money
Is it not getting caught at customs ? I used to get my cigars from the US until they booked me... now vaping but looks like it's going to get fucked again. I feel bad for the thousands of vape store employees that will get laid off.
Sack the Health Minister now. Was advised against it, refused to listen and is only now realising he was wrong.
Australia has fallen same as the uk what a shame
Because of the people, congratulations on quitting smoking but don't you dare say bad things about vapes 😂
Not yet cunt
The chemist near me has sold vapes/ E cigarettes for years
So the Labor Party & big tobacco have won, because they were losing so much in taxes & revenue, due to people giving up smoking & moving to vaping. I have now not have a cigarette now, since 2010, when you could import up to 1 litre of vegetable glycerine with nicotine for around $70!
you don't need to import VG every shopping center or major food supplier has it for sale thats the funny part
vaping helped me quit smoking and then i stopped vaping after i lost interest. they do help people quit.
Ive never agreed with Murray before. And yet here i am, agreeing with him entirely.
Any store is within walking distance of a school.
So the regulated industry just got a whole lot more regulated, whilst the unregulated black market can operate as per usual, and will probably boom as a result.
So bad for you, we'll only allow a pharmacist to sell it to u. Tax tax tax. Alcohol, tobacco, it's obvious money matters more.
I can buy a couple years worth of nicotine for under $100. Nicotine replacement therapies in Australia will cost me about $100 a fortnight. There’s a reason they want to ban vaping and it’s not about helping anyone.
Bs, the gum is cheaper
@@VapeAu you’re getting ripped off then
@@Pat.Mustard average price $25 for 60ml of e liquid last about a week, gum is $13 and last 2 weeks
@@VapeAu yeah, you’re getting ripped off mate cause you vape those fruity pussy pods.
200mL of 100mg/mL freebase nicotine is $40 from mixology vape in NZ. That gives me 1L of 20mg/mL nicotine - 2.5L for $100. A 384 pack of nicotinell gum is $35 from chem warehouse. That lasts me a bit over two weeks.
Yeah, you’re getting ripped off. 200 mL of 100mg/mL freebase Nic is $40 from NZ. Diluted, I get 2.5 L of 20mg/mL nicotine for $100. Well over a years supply.
All they did was make it more expensive
Now it's in the hands of organised crime n cost more
Vaping cost a tiny fraction compared to cigarettes. Provided you buy e-juice separately from the device, you know what you’re getting. No combustion. Ban the disposables as their content is questionable. Punishing adults for choosing the healthier option is indicative of deception (read: corruption)
I hate going to the chemists,I feel like I'm being lectured and cross examined just to buy a box of nurofen.
I never thought id agree with sky news in anything but here we are
It's all to control the market and funnel the profits to where THEY want them go...
I PURCHASED a script (I say purchase because there was no consultation with a medical professional required to obtain it, I just paid the fee, checked the highlighted boxes as indicated and received PERMISSION to enter the online chemist's store) just so I could purchase the nicotine concentrate I always had done over the past 10+ years, but now for double the cost + cost of the "script".
I was making my vape juice for 2.5 cents/mL, now THEY want to restrict my choices to now have to buy it for 50 cents/mL - that's 20x more expensive than it needs to be - 20x more expensive than it should be made available to us for... and that's what it's all about.
It's not about health or the environment... hell, the majority of products they're attempting to restrict us to are disposable units, it's about bleeding money out of us.
Since quitting cigarettes and now vaping instead, I got my health back... To achieve that, it cost me 70 cents/day, now it could potentially cost me $15/day... if I buy their putrid shit, $30/day if I purchase their not-as-putrid shit... it's now cheaper to smoke ciggies!!! They're making vaping more expensive than cigarettes!!! And at least when I make it myself, I know what's in it, the shit you get from the chemists, you can taste the toxicity in 'em... no thank you...
What a fucking joke.
I’m an adult I don’t need the government making decisions for me now what do I do
Kids always got their disposable vapes from the Black Market. That won't change. This accomplishes nothing.
On behalf of myself and my Hells Angel associates I sincerely say thank you to the Australian Labor government for placing Australian tobacco policie in our capable hands.
Well you’ll be getting my money for vaping products from now on my friend 👍🏻
There are laws that exist regarding the sale of vapes to under 18 yr olds. Instead of enforcing existing laws, they create new authoritarian laws. Great stuff. Maybe they can start selling cigs and alcohol in pharmacies too.
It's basically water vapor.
I'm surprised they just didn't tax it more!
if its not goverments peddling it/cashing in on it,, !!!BAN IT!!!
that's what this is about, they need to gain control of the market in order to tax the hell out of it!
actually iso-propyl glycerol vapour is the carrier molecule and its dodgy ho w bad this stuff is to breathe all the time
@@peterolsen9131 look at people in the smoke machine industry hows their health?
@@peterolsen9131 70% vegetable glycerine, 30% alcohol. A mL a day.
Where are the illnesses, where are the deaths? It's been 20+ years now.
Meanwhile _over 400,000 deaths from tobacco,_ and far more cases of serious illness costing taxpayers and the health care system billions.
Now do your research on who actually makes the vapes you get from the chemist
Liquid nicotine has to come from somewhere
@@VapeAucan be synthesised from things other than tobacco genius
@@Mike_Oxlong07 Australia did that because it wasn't tobacco but it's worse, vape shops use to have no-nic
@@VapeAu I know, I'm Australian. You can get zero tobacco nicotine liquid though. It's synthesised from plants that also contain trace elements of nicotine. Iirc you had to get it from NZ though
I think you found the real reason
Can't cut into cigarette taxes
Over $8 Billion per year.
I vape, so does my wife and my kids.
A family that vape together, stay together. It's crazy
i DOX, so does my family and kids