With turning 80 on the horizon and no descendants, I opted to sell my 3,000 vinyl collection. It was painful at first, but now I don’t really miss them. Still have my favorites on cd’s.
Thanks Mazzy for this confidence, I will never sell my record collection, I will sell my house if I am in need, but I will cherish my LP (3000) and my CD (3500) collections, till the end of my days, Music always, Namaste🙏
l started collecting in 1970 and have between 4000 to 5000 albums ditto the same amount in CD's , l'm approaching 70 and sometimes debate if l should sell my rarest vinyl mostly British Prog / Rock and 50's / 60's Jazz . l know l will probably not listen to a lot of what l've collected again but sentimentality and the memories attached to many of them stops me from selling . Admire your courage Mazzy for parting with your LP's .
The "Coleman Collection" lives on in my record room! Every time I play his (mine now) LP his picture card comes out of the record sleeve and we listen together . Thanks Mazzy!
When I moved to Europe i sold 75% of my collection due to shipping and space. It was the best thing ever to happen. I now have the chance to listen to it all.
I have a 3 year rule- if I haven’t put it on my record player in three years than someone else deserves the record. I used to pride myself on having an amazing “collection”. I had records just for the sake of having it the, but never listened to them. But having such a huge collection just means I have a ton of records I don’t listen to- and someone else will- I want record to have a full life and not waste their life on my shelf If you ain’t listening- sell it!
I have probably 1200 LPs and 1200 singles and it feels overwhelming. I have listened to all of them but I’ve been going at this for 25 years. I do get sad though that the more that come in it becomes prohibitive. At some point you simply can’t. Even at my modest small collection it would take nearly 3-5 years to hear them all if i listened to one a day. When I see the “big dogs” on here who have 10,000 plus, it makes me wonder what’s the point!? Its really not possible. There’s not enough time in the day. Mike “The Scrooge McDuck of Vinyl” Esposito bought like 100 piece OJC collection out from under others and I doubt he’ll ever make it through that when’s he’s already got like 30,000 LPs and more coming in every day. C’mon hoarders- give back a little. I never want to own more than I can actually enjoy. Maybe I’d feel differently if I “could” or had more disposable income but you gotta have principles too.
@@bigsweetc6 I have about 325 LPs & 600 CDs plus many downloads. I don't expect to listen to everything in my collection, but it's nice to be able to hear an album side, a single track or create a playlist or a radio show from my music library. It's a "resource." Most of my CDs are in albums to save space (empty jewelcases recycled or moved to the garage).
Mostly rock. The 10 first REM, a lot of Simple Minds, Graham Parker, Elvis Costello, Warren Zevon, John Hiatt, Paul Weller, Thåström, Neil Young… Tom Waits… Townes Van Zandt, Thin Lizzy, Rush, Talking Heads, The Clash and on and on. Many of them bought when they were released. And a whole bunch of norwegian stuff… too many to mention. Also a lot of blues and jazz classics.
I began my record collection in 1977. I kept all my records, though for many years I did not have a TT hooked up to my stereo to play them. I had a TT, an old Technics (still have it and it is on stereo #2). I am a CD guy first. To me, CDs are the best format. I can listen to the physical media and I can rip it to FLAC (for ROON) or MP3 for travel. I love my records and my cassettes as well. Still have all those I bought as well. They are a part of who I am. For most of my old records, I can tell you where I purchased them. Would I sell them, at some point, I will sell them if our daughter does not want them. Thanks again!
I don't have a problem with someone who buys a record, doesn't care for it so they "flip" it. I often buy a collection of albums, keep what I want and sell the rest. I do have a problem with people who buy all 15 copies of a record at Target etc. then go home and sell them at highly inflated prices. The same with RSD titles and flipping.
Are they inflated prices if people are willing to pay the price? What you define as a "problem" means absolutely nothing. All it is is your opinion and nothing more.
Mazzy. To each his own. I have a huge record( hoarding) collection. I buys “lots” of records, and The extras I put in an antique booth for sale. It helps feed my addiction for more records and I get To get records to the public that otherwise sit in peoples closets. I don’t mark them up to crazy Prices. Most are 5-10 dollars. I have a relatively big cd collection. Cd’s have always been strictly For my listening pleasure. Records serve both purposes but collecting them is always first in my Mind
When I sell records to a local store, if they’re in good condition, he usually pays me 1/2 of Discogs medium. This gives him enough to make a profit too. I find most used stores sell records for Discogs medium, or close to it. I just cleaned bout 130 LPs out of my collection. Stuff I never listen too, Buddy Rich, etc. I’m a lot older than you and I’ll never sell the whole collection. When I’m dead, my son will get it. He’s a musician and a collector also.
I have been collecting records my entire life for over 60 years. I started collecting CD's in the mid-80's and fell in love with the format instantly. Outside of special and limited editions I never thought about flipping when I acquired them. Some I did buy as an investment and have kept those sealed and stored away to sell another day. Many say that if you buy records as an investment, that is crazy. Well, if I decided to sell my sealed Beatles mono LP box set, the money I could get for that alone would pay for the 100's of other limited edition sealed records I have. Correct, the only way to get alot of money out of a record collection would be to sell individually. Huge record collections are almost impossible to sell in one lot at all and if you are lucky enough to get more than a small portion of the money you have invested. I did buy a collection of records, which included over 1,000 LP's. All great stuff but the guy just wanted to get rid of them as fast as he could, just short of putting them out at the curb. He had no idea what to ask for them, so i told him to shoot out a figure. He had a stack of 45's and one of them was an original Beatles "She Loves You" 45 on the Swan label. That was really the only record I was interested in. But, he wouldn't sell it by itself, I had to take the whole lot. Well, he suggested $50. for all the records and I responded with SOLD! I didn't know what I would do with all the LP's, plus I didn't know what all the LP's were, but I knew that Beatles 45 was worth more than $50. I put all the LP's in dedicated storage boxes and stored them. A couple of years later, I started inspecting each LP. I did keep a few of them. Lo and behold, one of the LP jackets had a wad of Canadian paper money. I didn't know how to contact the guy i got them from, so I took the money to the bank and it worked out to being about $175. U.S. The collection was more than paid for. I hauled it all to a record show in Alameda and people didn't want to hardly pay anything for them. There were just too many records for me to keep, so told a local record store guy about the and he came over to my house. He offered me $125. cash plus $150. in store credit and told me that I could keep any LP's I wanted, so I accepted I accepted his offer. It was my turn to just want to get rid of them and probably taken anything he had offered me. As far as I considered, I had nothing in them. I just can't bring myself to consider getting rid of my record or CD collections. Virtually every one was hand selected and purchased by me new. ARGH!!!
Love your discussion. It was cool to see your old Hafler gear. I had the same gear for 20 years. I bought the kit versions and it was fun assembling the gear.
Interested to hear you had Hafler equipment. I also had, and actually still have, a Hafler amp and pre amp. I had the units restored about 2 years ago and they still sound great.
That was great. I'm not sure if I was mad but when I got into cds I gave my pop, rock etc record collection (about 2,000 records I think) to a girl who was into that stuff and then I gave my jazz collection ( about 2,000) to a jazz fan. Neither of them had much cash and they loved music. Now I've just got about 3,000 cds plus streaming. Part of it, to be honest, was just a desire to get shot of it and move on. But I've never regretted it, although I certainly don't criticise anyone who sells or flips.
I sold my record collection of 350 records when "Passion" from Peter Gabriel was released. Purchased a portable CD player Sony D-22 (as I recall, one of the first) then moved in British Columbia, leaving behind about 50 records in storage. That was in 1989. Move on to 2017, when I repaired a friend's turntable; he left it to me a few weeks to listen to those records and they sounded so good! I purchased his other, older turntable, then from 50 records in 2017, I count 1670 today. I listened to them all except for Ornette Coleman; those I reserve for later.
Mazy is a clickbait master that’s why I stopped following this channel, but this video popped up on my YT feed and I wanted to torture myself and I wasn’t disappointed. Nothing like a rich boomer duping people.
I sold my record collection about 15 years ago, nothing major, a little over 400 albums. A little fluff with some outstanding releases on vinyl in my opinion. The guy came over my house, and we were haggling back/forth for a good 3 hours. He set me straight on the sentimental values, and business reality. Most of my albums were in pristine condition, as I bought new ones as my old ones deteriorated with scratches. He was explaining how my Steely Dan, and Doors albums weren't worth much more than a dollar because of their availability. It was my extensive blues collection that disappointed me on their value. I had a John Coltrane album that he said would have been worth the entire collection if it didn't have a scratch in it. What closed the deal was $350, and I gave him a steak and potato to cook when he got home. Went the cd route, sold the cds, and then downloaded everything.
Fun musings on what to do with your collection. I do a purge 2x a year that I re-invest in new music. It's been a nice way to pick up those higher value original pressings. It's a good place to start if you're not sure and it forces you to dig deeper into your collection and understanding of what you like and what you don't like any more.
I should never have sold the gear soon before I left San Francisco. Would have been great for my downstairs system. I’m the mid 80s I worked for a company that did sound and projection for conventions and we used Hafler gear, so we could buy at wholesale for ourselves.
I still have two or three thick binders with ads and brochures of vintage stereo equipment. I should've never punched holes in them as they're worth money to collectors. As Mazzy said Nobody cared about that back then. I still have my 1979 stereo system with JBL 4311's. My record collection are my friends and won't sell them out.
Interesting video Mazzy. I doubt I'll ever sell my entire vinyl collection. As my tastes have changed, I might sell off stuff I don't listen to anymore but that's about it. Cheers from Canada
I feel like i am a minority in the VC these days. Not once have i ever bought a record thinking i would flip it. I buy for music not value. The whole driving to multiple Walmarts to buy sale items to sell on line for 2x the price is SO bizarre to me. Thats not what its about.
Worth every dollar I'm sure. I've spent 20 minutes trying to identify a single LP and cross reference it with what's on Discogs. Daunting task.@@mazzysmusic
The best part of working at used record stores in Los Angeles was collecting all the promotional only albums & compact discs that came in via trade & reselling them to excited collectors of the artists. Outside of the major markets there weren't many promos ..in the major markets there were loads of promos. Nice side business.
You're very fortunate. I've bought a few promotional vinyl albums over the years; wish I had more. But I've purchased them to listen to, not to flip. The sound quality on promotional vinyl is superb.
On point Mazzy...I am happy to pay or charge someone for time / expertise / energy. I am only 1 yr back in vinyl after 20 yrs away. I only plan on owning a few hundred at a time as I actually want to listen to music and enjoy it with my family. It is a blast to watch our kids enjoy what they like, my parents likes, what my wife & I like, and hear new things too.
Hello Mazzy…when you were figuring out the price of your collection, you weren’t adding in the Beatle wall. I bet that’s where the real $ is. Really enjoy your channel, and have for years. I even saw you pop up on the Steve Hoffman forum, maybe even somewhere else ?
I'm 65. I think vinyl is going to start going down in value as us Boomers die off leaving a glut of vinyl to generations that don't have that sentimental feeling and are not that into the medium. All these guys with Discogs accounts are going to watch the value collapse like a bad day in the stock market, How long until the next cycle of vinyl surges? Who knows but we won't be around for it. I'm happy with my collection but I know the day is coming when I will have to downsize my housing and probably part with the vinyl for space reasons. I would be happy with 50k for what I value at closer to 100k. My Beatles alone is worth 20k but Gen Z isn't into the Beatles that much or any of our music for that matter. Just my thoughts.
Never ever ever ever sell to a record store. Their overhead will prevent you from getting any more than Pennie’s on the dollar. Take the time to look at the platforms and where they sell the best. There are records I sell on Facebook, eBay, discogs etc. depends on the audience and record
I lost a collection many years ago and had to start all over again , so i think if i was to sell my collection I'm pretty sure i would regret it afterwards even if i got top dollar fof it. Love your collection. Luv the show.
If people didn't sell records to record stores they wouldn't have inventory for us to buy. Of course a chunk of those are collections from people why have passed away. There are records I have that I got cheap which are worth a lot on discogs and I decided I don't really need, and was happy to get half the discogs value selling them to a local store. I still made money and didn't have to deal with mailing etc.
Groove Merchant was going to Ameoba and buying your used records and marking them up. Hahahah. The 90s was such easy pickin' for great records to buy solely to resell again. Thanks. Too many Americans are moving to lovely Portugal.
I've about run out of storage space for vinyl so my latest plan has been to weed and take large stacks of the decent ones to my local store and get usually generous trade credit. Then I can replace those stacks with a much smaller stack, I still get the thrill of record shopping, my collection slowly dwindles, the store gets cool records and maybe stays in business, and everybody is happy!
Yup I can definitely see you sat outside a bar in Porto sipping a glass of red wine or port lol. My collection isn’t that big compared to others and I don’t think I would ever sell it. I’m even struggling to do a long overdue purge !
I did something very similar in the late 80’s - traded vinyl in after I brought the CD - not everything but a decent chunk - and have now brought them all back ! Keeping my CDs (rather a lot) and happy to be a multi format man !
Liked that one Mazzy. As a Northeast guy born in the Eisenhower admin I have pondered what to do with my collection before my dirt nap. Good topic for one of your great vids?
Yep I did the same thing, not to your extent (200 albums) back in the early 90's, I assume so many of us have (I'm 60) I kept up with my CD's (1,100) & I jumped right back into vinyl in 2019 & my collection is now over 400. I have never been happier.....
I've always wondered how granular you got when you were entering your records into Discogs. You don't strike me as being as anal-retentive as I am. It takes me forever to enter my titles. By the time I find all the deadwax info and match it to the existing database entries, it's a very labor intensive process. So, do you simply find the matching title and use that or do you go even deeper?
When I moved back to Canada, from L.A., I sold and gave away over 25,000 CDs (after spending 3 years digitizing them all). I probably have 3 or 4 thousand left. That was about 5 years ago and I don't regret it yet. I kept all my records (about 25,000 - now up to 35,000). How much would it I want for my collection? At the moment, I wouldn't sell it for a million bucks. Perhaps 10 million. Then I'd buy a much bigger house and start collecting again. Perhaps if I became profoundly deaf, I'd part with them because it would be too painful to look at them and not get to listen to them. I know, that when I die, they will probably be a big burden for my daughter, but hey - I changed a lot of diapers when she was young.
@@teckertime My primary area of collecting was actually a smaller genre: soul from 1963-1996. I expanded to 50's jazz and those catalogs are quite complete. There's very little except for a few indie titles on my want list. I do dabble outside of those eras like I'm into Christian McBride or Sharon Jones. I go for everything indie to major label including cd singles and various artists compilations looking for rare mixes and rare edits. The Motown and Stax compilations had to be acquired as quite often a mono or single version or even an unreleased alternate makes it's way onto cd. With Motown there was 16 biggest hits series, the Chartbusters series, the Complete Singles 14 box set series, 20th Century Masters: Millennium Collection, Ultimate and Definitive Collections by artist, Motown by year, etc. There's a ton of pressings with informative booklets and different mastering.
I estimate the number of records in my "library" to be around 500. If I were to sell them at $20 apiece, that would be $10,000. I have several others that are valued higher than that however. I'd have to weigh that one out.
The low Discogs price on my collection has dropped a big amount in the last 2 years and that's after I've added hundreds to my collection. I also keep on noticing some rare records have a low price of say £20 on a record that would cost you £200. When you check the sales history its a reissue that has been sold for £20 but they listed it under the OG pressing. Those listing errors need removing but I don't know if Discogs will do anything about it.
It all really comes down to what you actually get for your records. Median price really means very little. I guess for insurance purposes it makes sense, otherwise it's almost pointless except to get a ballpark figure for each record.
I see myself selling some off when I'm retired (and my hearing has gone) Does anyone feel guilty as to the amount of money spent on the collection? What would you have done with the cash instead. I think music is life and the enjoyment and thrill of adding a record to the collection and listening to it is very special and personal.
First off love your videos you’re so genuine. And secondly understand parting ways with vinyl and cd’s, I had a decent collection up until 2003, where I gave away 3,000 albums going through hard times and wow it hurt bad. I started regaining a collection nothing like before, might have 150 now of vinyl. CD’s I had about 200 now I’m down to maybe 50. Hoping to get my vinyl back up a little bit more.
Love the ramble vids. Keep em coming. A couple of thoughts: 1) I did a similar act back in the mid-80s. I had maybe 600-700 vinyl records and was gonna move to SF so I thought hey I’ll sell these cause they’re heavy and hard to move. Like you, I had some pieces that are hard to gets: the RCA Bowies, first pressings of Zeppelin, U2, etc. 2) I’ve now got about 2000’vinyl records all cataloged on Discogs. I won’t sell these now but I’m already thinking of what should happen when I pass - some of these are really high value. Should I donate them, leave instructions on how to sell vs my heirs fire-selling? 3) My partner, Michelle, is a master at entering on Discogs. If you want, we can come over and she will get your Beatles and Stones cataloged quickly. She just did my Beatles and Stones. 4) Love the hat and love the B&W videos!
Not too bad though Mazzy, at least you only got rid of a 1/3. All I see are older guys coming into the record store and complaining about giving their entire record collections away. Now they're rebuying. We are also at about the same value. I am about to finally ensure my collection. have you done that?
I dig the stereo equipment 'cut in' to the record shelves. Hopefully there was a light over the turntable. So "selling ⅓ then, would it be as many as selling ⅓ now? 2,000 records sold in 1995 = 6,000 titles? Of course, even a photo with 6,000 records and the sound system 'cut in' does not do justice to an image of three friends at a party (1:22), What can the pic tell us about what was going on? As a photograph collector of renown, dare we assume you had a good camera and could use a flash without 'burning out' your subject? No shadows behind the three people in the shot. A hand holding a thin-what?-cable, piece of hemp, cable trigger for the camera? The three figures are cropped in the image in such a way as to suggest an over-tall ceiling, perhaps 9 or 10 feet high. (From Left to Right) Female with black turtle neck top. Very cool. Hair tied back. Immaculate face make up. Looking away from the camera, aware the shot was coming, opting for a casual pose. The shoulders appear slightly tensioned as she looks down and away from the flash. Male in the centre. Just the lightest of shadows outlines his figure against what appears to be light-coloured panelling-too big for a door? Prominent nose, semi-close cropped hair, naturally curly, light in color. Wearing a short sleeve shirt with turn over sleeve ends, vertical, medium stripes, with dark buttons, belted jeans. He also appears to have anticipated the 'shot' and looks to his left, at the person beside him, to avoid getting the flash in his eyes. Female at the right. Sunglasses on in a space that is dark enough to require flash photography suggests a 'signature' look. A loose patterned shirt to the mid-thigh is worn playfully, taking advantage of what would appear a heavy fabric, heavy enough to impart movement and create an air of interest around the wearer. A light colored top with a plunging neck line is tucked into high-wasted dark pants that pick up the darker elements in the loose fitting, open shirt on top. The hair, as dark as the pants in the picture, is cropped above chin height and complimented with banks and a short 'page boy' hair sprayed look. It all points to a happening scene in San Francisco that night! The Discogs Numbers for Mazzy's collection: LOW: 80,000 ⅔s or 120,000 for the full kit and caboodle. HIGH: 345,000 2/3s or 522,00 a C-O-O-L half a million! That's a lot of dough for vinyl! Plus, there are the 4,000 CDs... At what point do you sell the collection? At what point did Dylan sell his songs? Any thoughts? Digitize it! Think about a divestment strategy. Or a legacy project... like an LP library or museum? Hmmm.... consult with Tony Robbins, for sure! [His add came on just after the video stopped playing].
That is a lot to digest. I had a Mamiya 35mm camera. All natural light here. My apartment was very light and had tall windows. The was probably summer and before it got dark. Used tri x a lot but this isn’t grainy. Can’t recall.
Funny...having been a kid who grew up in Berkeley (born '64) with my Aunts going to Cal I spent hundred of hours at Leopolds and Silver Ball video gaming place right next door. We may have crossed paths...lol. Your picture and vibe confirms that you are the original patent for the Yuppy click...which contrary to what East Coast (mainly NY'ers) did not start in NY but in the SF-Bay...and U my Brother Mazz is the patent for the Era. BTW....i have a relatively larger collection with OP Blue Notes inherited from my Hipp Grand Parents and Beatnick Black Panther Aunts and cousins. My size does not matter (in this case) it's the inheritance and memories of the Bay Area loved ones who left me the foundation my collection.....so they are priceless to me....I typically trade or sell to acquire what I want. The Music Matters! No place like grw9ing up in the Bay...as you and others who know what "We" know will confirm! Some things are Priceless! Timm
i have 1/8th of mine on discogs. just my most expensive records. the highest value is 100,000. but i wouldnt sell it for that. what would i use the 100k for? to rebuy my collection? lol that would be dumb.
Hi I saw one of you videos, and you told the name of IKEA record shelves, im moving and trying to find Them Second hand Thanks from SWEDEN( the home of IKEA)😊
I use a mobile app called 'Record Scanner' made by a guy in Poland. As most of my collection consists of pre-barcode albums, the app makes it almost a pleasure as you can scan the lp cover and it populates the entry with data scraped from Discogs and other sources. You can export the collection listing as a spreadsheet if you like. The best part is the "Ka-Ching!" sound of an old timey cash register when you hit the Price/Value button - very Pavlovian in it's appeal. Unfortunately, the last I checked Discogs doesn't have any mechanism in place to import the listing, which is not cool at all
Great segment Mazzy. Two of my biggest regrets are selling my Warner Reprise Loss Leader compilations and my US versions of vinyl Beatle albums when I bought the English version CD's!
I had all the Loss Leaders. I sold them last year to a guy who really appreciated them. I was as happy as he was. I hadn't listened to them in decades. He was ready to listen to them. @@mazzysmusic
around 1981, I purged a third of my records - all the prog stuff I thought I was never going to listen to thanks to New Wave and Post Punk. I got rid of another third in the nineties, placing the titles with CDs. I regret loosing a lot of this vinyl.....Stackridge albums, gone....
That wall of records in your SF apartment reminds me of the one in the NY apartment at the beginning of "Inside Llewyn Davis." So, if this picture was taken in 1986, are those the (substantial) beginnings of your CD collection on the smaller middle shelves to the right? Or cassettes?
As with anything, what it's worth and what you can sell it for are two completely different things...............and yes, even my meager 1100 record collection would be out the door for the high value on Cogs ;)
I understand this i sold my lps in the 90s i had maybe 300 but there you go but i got rid of my 7000 cds in one shot to a second hand store but i had all genres cause i don't have any prejudices when it comes to music but it didn't give me satisfaction anymore it became just consumerism in the end like eating ice cream all the time you get fed up you should only eat when you're hungry and i don't regret it actually it was like a relieve like a breath of fresh air
Well, I'm guessing that in Oporto, Portugal, you might be drinking port. It's sort of in the name. How much would I sell my record collection for? Actually, $0, because that is what I did. I had 500 vinyls and maybe 250 CDs, and I moved to the US and left them all behind in Europe. I can't say I have missed them much. My favorite albums I had already digitized. There were a few I missed and had to re-buy. But, in fact, almost every album I'm interested in is available for free on TH-cam. Far better to invest in a good streaming system than stock up on vinyls, especially in SF, where there isn't much space, and I'd prefer to fill it with guitars and keyboards. I watch VC content for its randomness. You go to music shops and pull out stuff, and then recommend it to us. That is great, thank you. I'll then listen to your recommendations on TH-cam. I worked in market research for a bunch of years, and the big thing I learned is that people know what they like and dislike, but they are terrible at recognizing their own motivations. When you measure what people say is important to them, and what their behavior says is important to them, it is typically an almost complete flip. Vinyl buyers will say vinyl sounds better than digitized recordings, and there is a tiny element in that. MP3 loses 90% of the sound. But what really matters to vinyl collectors, I'm guessing, is possession, as in "I own this. It's mine. It's my precious. It has a history." I'm not knocking this: what's important to people is what's important to people. And then there is all the paraphernalia - the decks, the amplifiers, the speakers, the cleaning systems. It's no wonder that most vinyl collectors are male. We just love gadgets. But if you throw everything away, almost every piece of music you could ever wish to listen to is available to you at the touch of a button and virtually for free. Especially in SF, where I have lived mostly in the US, I would say declutter your life, buy some books, buy some plants - the whole world of music is digitized and at your fingertips, more or less for free. In a blind test between digitized and analog music, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, except that vinyls come with scratches, jumps, clicks and warps.
Hello Mazzy, l'm brazilian guy and l fan of your channel. A long time ago, the cd's were being released, and l sold around 1000 vinyls, l suffered a little, but l continued with some favorites, maybe around 200, but my collection has been with more emphasis on cd's, and l have around 3000 ítems. Take care !
My Tightness paid off, I didnt Sell My Records! For CD's I didnot think it was worth it! I finally got a CD player, and bought some, but I never trade/sold or "Threw away" any Vinyl. This includes The Peter Pan 78's from my Early Early Days! Vinyl geek here!
Great topic, I’m always interested in hearing the journey of being a record collector. Wow never knew some record stores didn’t sell used records, makes scenes the labels didn’t like it . I think it’s pretty awesome we’re able to buy and sell records. It’s a whole market that does up and down. I search for used records! Love them. If someone wanted to drop 10k for my collection I’d sell 😂 I’d just re buy my fav albums
I too bought into the CD revolution, BUT, I wasn't about to replace all my records with CD's! It would've cost way too much. I bought a beautiful Sony CDP 333ES in about 1989, but, by 1993/4, I was reborn into the sound of vinyl, after hearing for the first time how fabulous a record player could sound. So I invested into an Linn LP12 and have never looked back. Though I still do buy the occasional CD.
I'm only a few years behind you, Mazzy, & don't know if I want to leave 300 LPs & 700 CDs for family to sort through. On the positive side, I was watching a YT interview with a guy who'd had a Near Death Experience & the host asked him "Did you see famous people on the other side? Could you see Jimi Hendrix play a concert?" & he said "Oh, yeah, you can!"
I'm so relieved to hear you tell this tale. I got rid of 1/3 of my collection (much smaller that yours) and got rid of the albums (my favorites) I was sure I would replace with cd's, including my Led Zeppelin originals. What a f-----g short sighted idiot I was! Some have now been repurchased at exorbitant prices. PS. I also had a Hafler XL-280 amp. It really showed the steely cold sound of digital and sent me right into tube gear (Dynaco 70's!) from which I never looked back.
This is a good topic. I could do a video on my take. I did watch the Concert Buddie video. I just watched a video by As The Table Turns. He went from 150 records to 3000 in 3 years.
Hi, enjoyed the video. In the late 80's I sold about 100 records but my reasons were totally because I was low on cash, but I sure wish now that I did not sell any and just borrowed some money from my Dad as I hae no idea now what titles I sold and will probably not ever find them again. To answer your question, NO I would never sell my Record Collection or my DVD collection or CD's either. Will never happen.
They drink White Port Tonicos in Porto! Start selling now! I'm 70--I'm doing it and moving to Portugal, too! The best selling vinyl is vinyl from the 80s and 90s when vinyl was on the ropes. I've also found no one wants the stuff from the 60s... and Box sets are a tough sell. FYI, CDs ain't selling worth a shit!
Hi Mazzy, nice and funny video! Provocative as much as porto sounds very charming and attractive, your wall will look miserable without those records 😅. As well as photos deserve to be printed and visually exposed, so does music in both audio and visual dimension. Know you will do the right thing ;) still, hope to get once a nice drink in porto...wonder how much you talk after few negroni. Cheers and keep the fun up in vc! P.s. wish to have a friend who will remember me and remind others about me as you do. Good friend!
A lot of truth in getting rid of "stuff" as we get old but when is the big dilemma. You have tons of records and CD's, I have a huge collection of guitars, amps, pedals, you name it, and being in the early 70's, the time to sell, but keep just a few, is coming fast. What about stereo gear? Amps? Speakers? Yes, the time to sell stuff put together in decades of buying and never selling is coming.
Enjoyed this Mazzy. I’m glad that podcast made you recall your own experiences and (even better) expand the conversation here. I understand the push back on retail arbitrage, but I think everyone has done a form of this (in record collecting or outside the hobby) at one point. 🤔💸✌🏻
Fun video…I would never sell my collection! I tell people my collection is priceless to me regardless of its ’Discogs’ value. I am still expanding my collection and don’t see that changing, still gradually adding to the cd collection too. My reality has forced me to be very picky about what I add and I do not just buy used records and stuff I haven’t really wanted, and therefore my collection is not giant but is full of cool stuff I do enjoy on rotation. I think the fun of it all is the fact everyone has their own motivations and preferences and that’s what is interesting. At 58 the only thing that will likely ever happen to my collection is a pass down to my one son someday. Hopefully it will be much larger than it already is by then! ✌️
Greetings Sir Mazzy of Upper Seattle. Excellent video (as per usual). I most enjoy your 'rambling' videos as it is like having a coffee chat with you. I also most enjoy your videos with Dizzy et al. He is in my age bracket (I was born in 1950) and I to have started a succession plan. My adult daughter and family decided it was time (trending) to get into 'vinyl' (Records). I bought them a great higher end USB turntable and higher end powered speakers. I am purging great title LPs for them from my collection and they are also designing a wall to display LP covers!!. Over the 70's and 80's moves I somehow lost many LPs and or maybe lost them at parties....who knows. Like you I have replaced key loved LPs over the years. My main interest in the past 10 years or so (high gear during covid) was/is fully restoring vintage (60s /70/s) HiFi gear. For many of my crony lifelong friends (who still have some vinyl retained) I gave them on their 70 birthdays fully restored hifi systems exactly what they had in the 70s - I know what they had as I was the go to guy helping them find and purchase said systems back then. Well...enough of my ramblings! The bottom line is that my LP collection is in full succession mode! Hi to Sir Dizzy.
The Discogs low, medium, and high estimate is the approximate collective worth of the collection, based on Discogs sales data. You would never get those $ totals if you sold your entire collection to a single buyer. In those cases, it would be a fraction of the estimate because you would be, in effect, selling your collection at wholesale rather than retail, more often than not to a buyer who plans to resell the albums individually. To maximize your profits and come close to the Discogs estimate you would need to price and sell the albums individually. That's what the collection estimates represent, which should be obvious.
Of course. As I said you’d be bet get high it even medium as you’d never sell everything individually and if you had to ship everything individually ? Oy😳. So if a patron wants to kick in a half million for an distant collection 🤠🤷🏻♂️
"Oy" and then some. I've been selling part of my collection (CD and vinyl) piecemeal on Discogs the past year. Lots of investment in cardboard and trips to the PO. So far the response has been positive and steady. But I can appreciate how the time and effort involved would make the all-at-once method seem attractive.
That is a typical question from an American, you always see your hobby, your collection as an investment. You think too much about money, that's why you don't have it🙂 I would not sell my collection even when somebody pays me more than "high", it took so much time to find it and also WHY sell it and WHY think about selling.
I think you might be missing the point of this entire video. I’ve never seen my collection as an investment. When I sold this 2000 back in 1995, it was too move duplicates I was getting in the form of CDs and clear out some room. Adding my collection to Discogs is a database issue, to know what I have for me and eventually for my son. Seeing the. Possible value on Discogs is really only a by product of using their site. I posted the video as an open question to anyone. But in the end, I would certainly move to Porto if someone offered me the high number from Discogs 😬🤠😎
This was a great, interesting video with so many aspects that one is constantly exploring. To collect (whatever) is a fascinating process. Well my collection is just about the size/amount you had in the background. I’ve nurtured it over the decades even during the cd highs. But I also sell chunks of it from time to time to finance further (costlier) purchases, which makes for me a dynamic collection and has my attention. But would I sell it all if someone offered a fair price? Yes!!
With turning 80
on the horizon and no descendants, I opted to sell my 3,000 vinyl collection. It was painful at first, but now I don’t really miss them. Still have my favorites on cd’s.
Did the same, had a tax problem and needed cash. In time, I bought them ( and a lot more) back on cd. Saves a lot of space.
Thanks Mazzy for this confidence, I will never sell my record collection, I will sell my house if I am in need, but I will cherish my LP (3000) and my CD (3500) collections, till the end of my days, Music always, Namaste🙏
so you will be homeless with 6500 albums in a shopping cart and plastic bags?
@@EzaVinylAddict a lot of my friends envy me with my collection I ‘m sure one of will give me shelter and some shelves for my records 😉🎶
My godness broken Heart !!!
@@alitabbal9529 if your friends are envious of you then you need new friends, jealousy is a terrible trait in people.....
l started collecting in 1970 and have between 4000 to 5000 albums ditto the same amount in CD's , l'm approaching 70 and sometimes debate if l should sell my rarest vinyl mostly British Prog / Rock and 50's / 60's Jazz . l know l will probably not listen to a lot of what l've collected again but sentimentality and the memories attached to many of them stops me from selling . Admire your courage Mazzy for parting with your LP's .
The "Coleman Collection" lives on in my record room! Every time I play his (mine now) LP his picture card comes out of the record sleeve and we listen together . Thanks Mazzy!
Thank you ✌🏼
I'll sell my collection when I can't physically put an album on my turntable anymore.
When I moved to Europe i sold 75% of my collection due to shipping and space. It was the best thing ever to happen. I now have the chance to listen to it all.
I have a 3 year rule- if I haven’t put it on my record player in three years than someone else deserves the record.
I used to pride myself on having an amazing “collection”. I had records just for the sake of having it the, but never listened to them.
But having such a huge collection just means I have a ton of records I don’t listen to- and someone else will- I want record to have a full life and not waste their life on my shelf
If you ain’t listening- sell it!
Woody from Toy Story would approve of your philosophy!
Very well said.
I have probably 1200 LPs and 1200 singles and it feels overwhelming. I have listened to all of them but I’ve been going at this for 25 years. I do get sad though that the more that come in it becomes prohibitive. At some point you simply can’t. Even at my modest small collection it would take nearly 3-5 years to hear them all if i listened to one a day. When I see the “big dogs” on here who have 10,000 plus, it makes me wonder what’s the point!? Its really not possible. There’s not enough time in the day. Mike “The Scrooge McDuck of Vinyl” Esposito bought like 100 piece OJC collection out from under others and I doubt he’ll ever make it through that when’s he’s already got like 30,000 LPs and more coming in every day. C’mon hoarders- give back a little. I never want to own more than I can actually enjoy. Maybe I’d feel differently if I “could” or had more disposable income but you gotta have principles too.
"if I haven’t put it on my record player in three years than someone else deserves the record" What a wet statement.
@@bigsweetc6 I have about 325 LPs & 600 CDs plus many downloads. I don't expect to listen to everything in my collection, but it's nice to be able to hear an album side, a single track or create a playlist or a radio show from my music library. It's a "resource." Most of my CDs are in albums to save space (empty jewelcases recycled or moved to the garage).
Hi. I sold 850 LP’s for 4000$ in 2021. It was a rough period in my life. I sold it to a used record store.
Thanks for this show.
what kind of records were they? that’s an average of about 5 bucks a record. what did you have?
Mostly rock. The 10 first REM, a lot of Simple Minds, Graham Parker, Elvis Costello, Warren Zevon, John Hiatt, Paul Weller, Thåström, Neil Young… Tom Waits… Townes Van Zandt, Thin Lizzy, Rush, Talking Heads, The Clash and on and on. Many of them bought when they were released.
And a whole bunch of norwegian stuff… too many to mention.
Also a lot of blues and jazz classics.
I began my record collection in 1977. I kept all my records, though for many years I did not have a TT hooked up to my stereo to play them. I had a TT, an old Technics (still have it and it is on stereo #2). I am a CD guy first. To me, CDs are the best format. I can listen to the physical media and I can rip it to FLAC (for ROON) or MP3 for travel. I love my records and my cassettes as well. Still have all those I bought as well. They are a part of who I am. For most of my old records, I can tell you where I purchased them. Would I sell them, at some point, I will sell them if our daughter does not want them. Thanks again!
I don't have a problem with someone who buys a record, doesn't care for it so they "flip" it. I often buy a collection of albums, keep what I want and sell the rest. I do have a problem with people who buy all 15 copies of a record at Target etc. then go home and sell them at highly inflated prices. The same with RSD titles and flipping.
Are they inflated prices if people are willing to pay the price? What you define as a "problem" means absolutely nothing. All it is is your opinion and nothing more.
@@MickSupper All that is is your opinion and nothing more.
@@harrysmusicroom Oh wow, what a rebuttal.
@@MickSupper Stop your dumb strawman comment. This is just your opinion also.
@@rabarebra Where's the strawman? Learn your vocabulary before making such a comment.
Mazzy. To each his own. I have a huge record( hoarding) collection. I buys “lots” of records, and
The extras I put in an antique booth for sale. It helps feed my addiction for more records and I get
To get records to the public that otherwise sit in peoples closets. I don’t mark them up to crazy
Prices. Most are 5-10 dollars. I have a relatively big cd collection. Cd’s have always been strictly
For my listening pleasure. Records serve both purposes but collecting them is always first in my
Mind
I have a handful of friends who does the same. I’m just throwing these questions out there
When I sell records to a local store, if they’re in good condition, he usually pays me 1/2 of Discogs medium. This gives him enough to make a profit too. I find most used stores sell records for Discogs medium, or close to it. I just cleaned bout 130 LPs out of my collection. Stuff I never listen too, Buddy Rich, etc. I’m a lot older than you and I’ll never sell the whole collection. When I’m dead, my son will get it. He’s a musician and a collector also.
I have been collecting records my entire life for over 60 years. I started collecting CD's in the mid-80's and fell in love with the format instantly. Outside of special and limited editions I never thought about flipping when I acquired them. Some I did buy as an investment and have kept those sealed and stored away to sell another day. Many say that if you buy records as an investment, that is crazy. Well, if I decided to sell my sealed Beatles mono LP box set, the money I could get for that alone would pay for the 100's of other limited edition sealed records I have. Correct, the only way to get alot of money out of a record collection would be to sell individually. Huge record collections are almost impossible to sell in one lot at all and if you are lucky enough to get more than a small portion of the money you have invested.
I did buy a collection of records, which included over 1,000 LP's. All great stuff but the guy just wanted to get rid of them as fast as he could, just short of putting them out at the curb. He had no idea what to ask for them, so i told him to shoot out a figure. He had a stack of 45's and one of them was an original Beatles "She Loves You" 45 on the Swan label. That was really the only record I was interested in. But, he wouldn't sell it by itself, I had to take the whole lot. Well, he suggested $50. for all the records and I responded with SOLD! I didn't know what I would do with all the LP's, plus I didn't know what all the LP's were, but I knew that Beatles 45 was worth more than $50. I put all the LP's in dedicated storage boxes and stored them. A couple of years later, I started inspecting each LP. I did keep a few of them. Lo and behold, one of the LP jackets had a wad of Canadian paper money. I didn't know how to contact the guy i got them from, so I took the money to the bank and it worked out to being about $175. U.S. The collection was more than paid for. I hauled it all to a record show in Alameda and people didn't want to hardly pay anything for them. There were just too many records for me to keep, so told a local record store guy about the and he came over to my house. He offered me $125. cash plus $150. in store credit and told me that I could keep any LP's I wanted, so I accepted I accepted his offer. It was my turn to just want to get rid of them and probably taken anything he had offered me. As far as I considered, I had nothing in them.
I just can't bring myself to consider getting rid of my record or CD collections. Virtually every one was hand selected and purchased by me new. ARGH!!!
Love your discussion. It was cool to see your old Hafler gear. I had the same gear for 20 years. I bought the kit versions and it was fun assembling the gear.
Interested to hear you had Hafler equipment. I also had, and actually still have, a Hafler amp and pre amp. I had the units restored about 2 years ago and they still sound great.
That was great. I'm not sure if I was mad but when I got into cds I gave my pop, rock etc record collection (about 2,000 records I think) to a girl who was into that stuff and then I gave my jazz collection ( about 2,000) to a jazz fan. Neither of them had much cash and they loved music.
Now I've just got about 3,000 cds plus streaming.
Part of it, to be honest, was just a desire to get shot of it and move on. But I've never regretted it, although I certainly don't criticise anyone who sells or flips.
I sold my record collection of 350 records when "Passion" from Peter Gabriel was released. Purchased a portable CD player Sony D-22 (as I recall, one of the first) then moved in British Columbia, leaving behind about 50 records in storage. That was in 1989. Move on to 2017, when I repaired a friend's turntable; he left it to me a few weeks to listen to those records and they sounded so good! I purchased his other, older turntable, then from 50 records in 2017, I count 1670 today. I listened to them all except for Ornette Coleman; those I reserve for later.
definitely click bait
The vinyl community's king of click bait !
But did you stay for the whole show anyway?
@@Claytone-Recordsbarely made it beyond 1995
@@Claytone-Records nope
Mazy is a clickbait master that’s why I stopped following this channel, but this video popped up on my YT feed and I wanted to torture myself and I wasn’t disappointed. Nothing like a rich boomer duping people.
I sold my record collection about 15 years ago, nothing major, a little over 400 albums. A little fluff with some outstanding releases on vinyl in my opinion. The guy came over my house, and we were haggling back/forth for a good 3 hours. He set me straight on the sentimental values, and business reality. Most of my albums were in pristine condition, as I bought new ones as my old ones deteriorated with scratches. He was explaining how my Steely Dan, and Doors albums weren't worth much more than a dollar because of their availability. It was my extensive blues collection that disappointed me on their value. I had a John Coltrane album that he said would have been worth the entire collection if it didn't have a scratch in it. What closed the deal was $350, and I gave him a steak and potato to cook when he got home. Went the cd route, sold the cds, and then downloaded everything.
Fun musings on what to do with your collection. I do a purge 2x a year that I re-invest in new music. It's been a nice way to pick up those higher value original pressings. It's a good place to start if you're not sure and it forces you to dig deeper into your collection and understanding of what you like and what you don't like any more.
I wanted Hafler gear so bad when I was young. I even ripped out pictures of Hafler amps and taped them to my wall as decoration.
I should never have sold the gear soon before I left San Francisco. Would have been great for my downstairs system. I’m the mid 80s I worked for a company that did sound and projection for conventions and we used Hafler gear, so we could buy at wholesale for ourselves.
I still have two or three thick binders with ads and brochures of vintage stereo equipment. I should've never
punched holes in them as they're worth
money to collectors. As Mazzy said
Nobody cared about that back then.
I still have my 1979 stereo system with
JBL 4311's. My record collection are my friends and won't sell them out.
Interesting video Mazzy. I doubt I'll ever sell my entire vinyl collection. As my tastes have changed, I might sell off stuff I don't listen to anymore but that's about it. Cheers from Canada
I feel like i am a minority in the VC these days. Not once have i ever bought a record thinking i would flip it. I buy for music not value. The whole driving to multiple Walmarts to buy sale items to sell on line for 2x the price is SO bizarre to me. Thats not what its about.
Great ramble, Maz! I still need to input about a third of my LPs on Discogs. Not to mention about 2000 cds.
Thanks for the tip on inputing your collection at Discogs. I bet the medium price is close to what you paid for the entire collection.
Probably yes and most I bought at retail or less I. The 60s 70s and early 80s. And yes I looks at dead wax ✌🏼
Worth every dollar I'm sure. I've spent 20 minutes trying to identify a single LP and cross reference it with what's on Discogs. Daunting task.@@mazzysmusic
The offers on the Discogs high value for your collection will be coming in!! Enjoy Porto Portugal!
The best part of working at used record stores in Los Angeles was collecting all the promotional only albums & compact discs that came in via trade & reselling them to excited collectors of the artists. Outside of the major markets there weren't many promos ..in the major markets there were loads of promos. Nice side business.
Promo cds from the swingbeat area in the early 90's with unique mixes are very limited!
You're very fortunate. I've bought a few promotional vinyl albums over the years; wish I had more. But I've purchased them to listen to, not to flip. The sound quality on promotional vinyl is superb.
On point Mazzy...I am happy to pay or charge someone for time / expertise / energy. I am only 1 yr back in vinyl after 20 yrs away. I only plan on owning a few hundred at a time as I actually want to listen to music and enjoy it with my family. It is a blast to watch our kids enjoy what they like, my parents likes, what my wife & I like, and hear new things too.
Hello Mazzy…when you were figuring out the price of your collection, you weren’t adding in the Beatle wall. I bet that’s where the real $ is. Really enjoy your channel, and have for years. I even saw you pop up on the Steve Hoffman forum, maybe even somewhere else ?
I'm 65. I think vinyl is going to start going down in value as us Boomers die off leaving a glut of vinyl to generations that don't have that sentimental feeling and are not that into the medium. All these guys with Discogs accounts are going to watch the value collapse like a bad day in the stock market, How long until the next cycle of vinyl surges? Who knows but we won't be around for it. I'm happy with my collection but I know the day is coming when I will have to downsize my housing and probably part with the vinyl for space reasons. I would be happy with 50k for what I value at closer to 100k. My Beatles alone is worth 20k but Gen Z isn't into the Beatles that much or any of our music for that matter. Just my thoughts.
Never ever ever ever sell to a record store. Their overhead will prevent you from getting any more than Pennie’s on the dollar. Take the time to look at the platforms and where they sell the best. There are records I sell on Facebook, eBay, discogs etc. depends on the audience and record
I lost a collection many years ago and had to start all over again , so i think if i was to sell my collection I'm pretty sure i would regret it afterwards even if i got top dollar fof it.
Love your collection.
Luv the show.
If people didn't sell records to record stores they wouldn't have inventory for us to buy. Of course a chunk of those are collections from people why have passed away. There are records I have that I got cheap which are worth a lot on discogs and I decided I don't really need, and was happy to get half the discogs value selling them to a local store. I still made money and didn't have to deal with mailing etc.
Groove Merchant was going to Ameoba and buying your used records and marking them up. Hahahah. The 90s was such easy pickin' for great records to buy solely to resell again. Thanks.
Too many Americans are moving to lovely Portugal.
Nice video Mazzy! Are you still a Hafler aficionado? I am a Huge fan of the XL-280. I coupled it with a Linn Kairn preamp and it kills!!
I've about run out of storage space for vinyl so my latest plan has been to weed and take large stacks of the decent ones to my local store and get usually generous trade credit. Then I can replace those stacks with a much smaller stack, I still get the thrill of record shopping, my collection slowly dwindles, the store gets cool records and maybe stays in business, and everybody is happy!
Yup I can definitely see you sat outside a bar in Porto sipping a glass of red wine or port lol. My collection isn’t that big compared to others and I don’t think I would ever sell it. I’m even struggling to do a long overdue purge !
I did something very similar in the late 80’s - traded vinyl in after I brought the CD - not everything but a decent chunk - and have now brought them all back ! Keeping my CDs (rather a lot) and happy to be a multi format man !
I have about that many, too. I've been thinking of selling for a while, but, inertia ...
Liked that one Mazzy. As a Northeast guy born in the Eisenhower admin I have pondered what to do with my collection before my dirt nap. Good topic for one of your great vids?
Wow, I did not know about collection value, thanks for sharing the knowledge, I feel much better for spending the time and money now 🤜🏽
I sold ALL of my HUGE 45 & LP collections in the later 90's also - BIG mistake! It's costing me bigtime trying to recollect them!
I had that same Hafler amp powering original KLH series 5 speakers
Yep I did the same thing, not to your extent (200 albums) back in the early 90's, I assume so many of us have (I'm 60) I kept up with my CD's (1,100) & I jumped right back into vinyl in 2019 & my collection is now over 400. I have never been happier.....
I've always wondered how granular you got when you were entering your records into Discogs. You don't strike me as being as anal-retentive as I am. It takes me forever to enter my titles. By the time I find all the deadwax info and match it to the existing database entries, it's a very labor intensive process. So, do you simply find the matching title and use that or do you go even deeper?
I go fairly deep as possible. Occasionally when there are so many options, and it gets to be too much, I do take an educated guess.
Good question ✌🏼
When I moved back to Canada, from L.A., I sold and gave away over 25,000 CDs (after spending 3 years digitizing them all). I probably have 3 or 4 thousand left. That was about 5 years ago and I don't regret it yet. I kept all my records (about 25,000 - now up to 35,000). How much would it I want for my collection? At the moment, I wouldn't sell it for a million bucks. Perhaps 10 million. Then I'd buy a much bigger house and start collecting again. Perhaps if I became profoundly deaf, I'd part with them because it would be too painful to look at them and not get to listen to them. I know, that when I die, they will probably be a big burden for my daughter, but hey - I changed a lot of diapers when she was young.
Dam that's one helluva lot of CDs...😮
@@limomangeno I'm at 80K. Imports and singles are the valuable ones.
How is that even possible? :)@@DorianPaige00
@@teckertime My primary area of collecting was actually a smaller genre: soul from 1963-1996. I expanded to 50's jazz and those catalogs are quite complete. There's very little except for a few indie titles on my want list. I do dabble outside of those eras like I'm into Christian McBride or Sharon Jones. I go for everything indie to major label including cd singles and various artists compilations looking for rare mixes and rare edits. The Motown and Stax compilations had to be acquired as quite often a mono or single version or even an unreleased alternate makes it's way onto cd. With Motown there was 16 biggest hits series, the Chartbusters series, the Complete Singles 14 box set series, 20th Century Masters: Millennium Collection, Ultimate and Definitive Collections by artist, Motown by year, etc. There's a ton of pressings with informative booklets and different mastering.
@@limomangeno There were times when I may have been a little intemperate with my spending.
I estimate the number of records in my "library" to be around 500. If I were to sell them at $20 apiece, that would be $10,000. I have several others that are valued higher than that however. I'd have to weigh that one out.
The low Discogs price on my collection has dropped a big amount in the last 2 years and that's after I've added hundreds to my collection. I also keep on noticing some rare records have a low price of say £20 on a record that would cost you £200. When you check the sales history its a reissue that has been sold for £20 but they listed it under the OG pressing. Those listing errors need removing but I don't know if Discogs will do anything about it.
It all really comes down to what you actually get for your records. Median price really means very little. I guess for insurance purposes it makes sense, otherwise it's almost pointless except to get a ballpark figure for each record.
Excellent video ! Thanks Mazzy.
Enjoyed watching this show. It's a great topic.
I see myself selling some off when I'm retired (and my hearing has gone) Does anyone feel guilty as to the amount of money spent on the collection? What would you have done with the cash instead. I think music is life and the enjoyment and thrill of adding a record to the collection and listening to it is very special and personal.
Agreed, however I thought I would sell some of my records when I retired but just can’t get round to doing it….😊
First off love your videos you’re so genuine. And secondly understand parting ways with vinyl and cd’s, I had a decent collection up until 2003, where I gave away 3,000 albums going through hard times and wow it hurt bad. I started regaining a collection nothing like before, might have 150 now of vinyl. CD’s I had about 200 now I’m down to maybe 50. Hoping to get my vinyl back up a little bit more.
Thank you ✌🏼
Love the ramble vids. Keep em coming. A couple of thoughts: 1) I did a similar act back in the mid-80s. I had maybe 600-700 vinyl records and was gonna move to SF so I thought hey I’ll sell these cause they’re heavy and hard to move. Like you, I had some pieces that are hard to gets: the RCA Bowies, first pressings of Zeppelin, U2, etc. 2) I’ve now got about 2000’vinyl records all cataloged on Discogs. I won’t sell these now but I’m already thinking of what should happen when I pass - some of these are really high value. Should I donate them, leave instructions on how to sell vs my heirs fire-selling? 3) My partner, Michelle, is a master at entering on Discogs. If you want, we can come over and she will get your Beatles and Stones cataloged quickly. She just did my Beatles and Stones. 4) Love the hat and love the B&W videos!
Sure, come over and input my Beatles. I’ll mix martinis 🍸🤠
Not too bad though Mazzy, at least you only got rid of a 1/3. All I see are older guys coming into the record store and complaining about giving their entire record collections away. Now they're rebuying. We are also at about the same value. I am about to finally ensure my collection. have you done that?
Great talk, Thank You for it.
Question: Is Your Son not a record collector?
I still have two (2) Hafler amplifiers that I got in kit form.
I sold about 3000 LP's for appr. 3000 Euro in 1997. Now I am a CD person and I don't regret it.
I dig the stereo equipment 'cut in' to the record shelves. Hopefully there was a light over the turntable.
So "selling ⅓ then, would it be as many as selling ⅓ now? 2,000 records sold in 1995 = 6,000 titles? Of course, even a photo with 6,000 records and the sound system 'cut in' does not do justice to an image of three friends at a party (1:22), What can the pic tell us about what was going on? As a photograph collector of renown, dare we assume you had a good camera and could use a flash without 'burning out' your subject? No shadows behind the three people in the shot. A hand holding a thin-what?-cable, piece of hemp, cable trigger for the camera? The three figures are cropped in the image in such a way as to suggest an over-tall ceiling, perhaps 9 or 10 feet high.
(From Left to Right)
Female with black turtle neck top. Very cool. Hair tied back. Immaculate face make up. Looking away from the camera, aware the shot was coming, opting for a casual pose. The shoulders appear slightly tensioned as she looks down and away from the flash.
Male in the centre. Just the lightest of shadows outlines his figure against what appears to be light-coloured panelling-too big for a door? Prominent nose, semi-close cropped hair, naturally curly, light in color. Wearing a short sleeve shirt with turn over sleeve ends, vertical, medium stripes, with dark buttons, belted jeans. He also appears to have anticipated the 'shot' and looks to his left, at the person beside him, to avoid getting the flash in his eyes.
Female at the right. Sunglasses on in a space that is dark enough to require flash photography suggests a 'signature' look. A loose patterned shirt to the mid-thigh is worn playfully, taking advantage of what would appear a heavy fabric, heavy enough to impart movement and create an air of interest around the wearer. A light colored top with a plunging neck line is tucked into high-wasted dark pants that pick up the darker elements in the loose fitting, open shirt on top. The hair, as dark as the pants in the picture, is cropped above chin height and complimented with banks and a short 'page boy' hair sprayed look.
It all points to a happening scene in San Francisco that night!
The Discogs Numbers for Mazzy's collection:
LOW: 80,000 ⅔s or 120,000 for the full kit and caboodle.
HIGH: 345,000 2/3s or 522,00 a C-O-O-L half a million! That's a lot of dough for vinyl! Plus, there are the 4,000 CDs...
At what point do you sell the collection? At what point did Dylan sell his songs? Any thoughts?
Digitize it! Think about a divestment strategy. Or a legacy project... like an LP library or museum?
Hmmm.... consult with Tony Robbins, for sure! [His add came on just after the video stopped playing].
That is a lot to digest. I had a Mamiya 35mm camera. All natural light here. My apartment was very light and had tall windows. The was probably summer and before it got dark. Used tri x a lot but this isn’t grainy. Can’t recall.
Funny...having been a kid who grew up in Berkeley (born '64) with my Aunts going to Cal I spent hundred of hours at Leopolds and Silver Ball video gaming place right next door. We may have crossed paths...lol. Your picture and vibe confirms that you are the original patent for the Yuppy click...which contrary to what East Coast (mainly NY'ers) did not start in NY but in the SF-Bay...and U my Brother Mazz is the patent for the Era. BTW....i have a relatively larger collection with OP Blue Notes inherited from my Hipp Grand Parents and Beatnick Black Panther Aunts and cousins. My size does not matter (in this case) it's the inheritance and memories of the Bay Area loved ones who left me the foundation my collection.....so they are priceless to me....I typically trade or sell to acquire what I want. The Music Matters! No place like grw9ing up in the Bay...as you and others who know what "We" know will confirm! Some things are Priceless! Timm
Forget about the records, after all that rambling I had to look up Porto Portugal. Now it all makes sense.
i have 1/8th of mine on discogs. just my most expensive records. the highest value is 100,000. but i wouldnt sell it for that. what would i use the 100k for? to rebuy my collection? lol that would be dumb.
Hi
I saw one of you videos, and you told the name of IKEA record shelves, im moving and trying to find Them Second hand
Thanks from SWEDEN( the home of IKEA)😊
You’re welcome 😊 yeah Bonde ✌🏼
How do I catalog my collection with the least effort?
You don’t 😕
I use a mobile app called 'Record Scanner' made by a guy in Poland. As most of my collection consists of pre-barcode albums, the app makes it almost a pleasure as you can scan the lp cover and it populates the entry with data scraped from Discogs and other sources. You can export the collection listing as a spreadsheet if you like. The best part is the "Ka-Ching!" sound of an old timey cash register when you hit the Price/Value button - very Pavlovian in it's appeal. Unfortunately, the last I checked Discogs doesn't have any mechanism in place to import the listing, which is not cool at all
Great segment Mazzy. Two of my biggest regrets are selling my Warner Reprise Loss Leader compilations and my US versions of vinyl Beatle albums when I bought the English version CD's!
Ahhh. I did keep all my Loss Leaders ✌🏼
I had all the Loss Leaders. I sold them last year to a guy who really appreciated them. I was as happy as he was. I hadn't listened to them in decades. He was ready to listen to them. @@mazzysmusic
around 1981, I purged a third of my records - all the prog stuff I thought I was never going to listen to thanks to New Wave and Post Punk. I got rid of another third in the nineties, placing the titles with CDs. I regret loosing a lot of this vinyl.....Stackridge albums, gone....
@@dvanmartin9842 yeah. Our tastes change evolve and return. I’ve learned 😎
Hey Mas, I'm curious, when you input your collection did you actually read the dead wax on each LP?
Yes I do.
I flip records. Sometimes I sell them and other times I flip them from side A to side B.
That is a master bait Mazzy.
That wall of records in your SF apartment reminds me of the one in the NY apartment at the beginning of "Inside Llewyn Davis." So, if this picture was taken in 1986, are those the (substantial) beginnings of your CD collection on the smaller middle shelves to the right? Or cassettes?
Yes this was less than a year into CDs. The middle shelves to the right. ✌🏼
As with anything, what it's worth and what you can sell it for are two completely different things...............and yes, even my meager 1100 record collection would be out the door for the high value on Cogs ;)
I understand this i sold my lps in the 90s i had maybe 300 but
there you go but i got rid of my 7000 cds in one shot to a second hand store but i had all
genres cause i don't have any prejudices when it comes to music but it didn't give me satisfaction anymore it became just consumerism in the end like eating ice cream all the time you get fed up you should only eat when you're hungry and i don't regret it actually it was like a relieve like a breath of fresh air
They drink Port in Porto, Portugal!! I'm especially fond of the Sandeman 40 year Tawny :)
And the white port was a revelation! Great place Porto 😊
The Beatles wall will be a nightmare.
Well, I'm guessing that in Oporto, Portugal, you might be drinking port. It's sort of in the name.
How much would I sell my record collection for? Actually, $0, because that is what I did. I had 500 vinyls and maybe 250 CDs, and I moved to the US and left them all behind in Europe.
I can't say I have missed them much. My favorite albums I had already digitized. There were a few I missed and had to re-buy. But, in fact, almost every album I'm interested in is available for free on TH-cam. Far better to invest in a good streaming system than stock up on vinyls, especially in SF, where there isn't much space, and I'd prefer to fill it with guitars and keyboards.
I watch VC content for its randomness. You go to music shops and pull out stuff, and then recommend it to us. That is great, thank you. I'll then listen to your recommendations on TH-cam.
I worked in market research for a bunch of years, and the big thing I learned is that people know what they like and dislike, but they are terrible at recognizing their own motivations. When you measure what people say is important to them, and what their behavior says is important to them, it is typically an almost complete flip.
Vinyl buyers will say vinyl sounds better than digitized recordings, and there is a tiny element in that. MP3 loses 90% of the sound. But what really matters to vinyl collectors, I'm guessing, is possession, as in "I own this. It's mine. It's my precious. It has a history." I'm not knocking this: what's important to people is what's important to people.
And then there is all the paraphernalia - the decks, the amplifiers, the speakers, the cleaning systems. It's no wonder that most vinyl collectors are male. We just love gadgets.
But if you throw everything away, almost every piece of music you could ever wish to listen to is available to you at the touch of a button and virtually for free.
Especially in SF, where I have lived mostly in the US, I would say declutter your life, buy some books, buy some plants - the whole world of music is digitized and at your fingertips, more or less for free. In a blind test between digitized and analog music, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, except that vinyls come with scratches, jumps, clicks and warps.
Fair enough, some people donate them, throw them away etc. I've stopped collecting, because of the weight.
Hello Mazzy, l'm brazilian guy and l fan of your channel. A long time ago, the cd's were being released, and l sold around 1000 vinyls, l suffered a little, but l continued with some favorites, maybe around 200, but my collection has been with more emphasis on cd's, and l have around 3000 ítems. Take care !
Thanks for sharing✌🏼😎🥁
My guess, port is drunk in Oporto, Portugal, Mazzy.
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My Tightness paid off, I didnt Sell My Records! For CD's I didnot think it was worth it! I finally got a CD player, and bought some, but I never trade/sold or "Threw away" any Vinyl. This includes The Peter Pan 78's from my Early Early Days! Vinyl geek here!
Great topic, I’m always interested in hearing the journey of being a record collector. Wow never knew some record stores didn’t sell used records, makes scenes the labels didn’t like it . I think it’s pretty awesome we’re able to buy and sell records. It’s a whole market that does up and down. I search for used records! Love them. If someone wanted to drop 10k for my collection I’d sell 😂 I’d just re buy my fav albums
What model Dual do you own? And is it your main player?
Dual cs5000. My main rig is a Rega P8
I too bought into the CD revolution, BUT, I wasn't about to replace all my records with CD's! It would've cost way too much. I bought a beautiful Sony CDP 333ES in about 1989, but, by 1993/4, I was reborn into the sound of vinyl, after hearing for the first time how fabulous a record player could sound. So I invested into an Linn LP12 and have never looked back. Though I still do buy the occasional CD.
Great table ✌🏼
I'm only a few years behind you, Mazzy, & don't know if I want to leave 300 LPs & 700 CDs for family to sort through. On the positive side, I was watching a YT interview with a guy who'd had a Near Death Experience & the host asked him "Did you see famous people on the other side? Could you see Jimi Hendrix play a concert?" & he said "Oh, yeah, you can!"
I'm so relieved to hear you tell this tale. I got rid of 1/3 of my collection (much smaller that yours) and got rid of the albums (my favorites) I was sure I would replace with cd's, including my Led Zeppelin originals. What a f-----g short sighted idiot I was! Some have now been repurchased at exorbitant prices. PS. I also had a Hafler XL-280 amp. It really showed the steely cold sound of digital and sent me right into tube gear (Dynaco 70's!) from which I never looked back.
Things have improved a lot for digital in the last 10 years or so.
Cheers from Portugal, Mazzy! 🇵🇹🥃
Someday.
my small junky collection is worth way more to me than anyone would ever be willing to pay, so I think I'll keep it :)
This is a good topic. I could do a video on my take.
I did watch the Concert Buddie video. I just watched a video by As The Table Turns. He went from 150 records to 3000 in 3 years.
That’s fast ✌🏼
@@mazzysmusic That is crazy fast.
I'm NOT selling my collection for anything ever. I'm taking my collection to the "next dimension" with me! 😊
Hi, enjoyed the video. In the late 80's I sold about 100 records but my reasons were totally because I was low on cash, but I sure wish now that I did not sell any and just borrowed some money from my Dad as I hae no idea now what titles I sold and will probably not ever find them again. To answer your question, NO I would never sell my Record Collection or my DVD collection or CD's either. Will never happen.
They drink White Port Tonicos in Porto! Start selling now! I'm 70--I'm doing it and moving to Portugal, too! The best selling vinyl is vinyl from the 80s and 90s when vinyl was on the ropes. I've also found no one wants the stuff from the 60s... and Box sets are a tough sell. FYI, CDs ain't selling worth a shit!
Hi Mazzy, nice and funny video! Provocative as much as porto sounds very charming and attractive, your wall will look miserable without those records 😅. As well as photos deserve to be printed and visually exposed, so does music in both audio and visual dimension. Know you will do the right thing ;) still, hope to get once a nice drink in porto...wonder how much you talk after few negroni. Cheers and keep the fun up in vc!
P.s. wish to have a friend who will remember me and remind others about me as you do. Good friend!
“I used to own more records… yada yada yada”
Would love to see you at Parent Teacher night 🙂
A lot of truth in getting rid of "stuff" as we get old but when is the big dilemma. You have tons of records and CD's, I have a huge collection of guitars, amps, pedals, you name it, and being in the early 70's, the time to sell, but keep just a few, is coming fast. What about stereo gear? Amps? Speakers? Yes, the time to sell stuff put together in decades of buying and never selling is coming.
Enjoyed this Mazzy. I’m glad that podcast made you recall your own experiences and (even better) expand the conversation here. I understand the push back on retail arbitrage, but I think everyone has done a form of this (in record collecting or outside the hobby) at one point. 🤔💸✌🏻
I might do a take on this.
@@vinylrichie007 i might watch it 😉
You can't fool me. Those are all Ray conniff records.😂
Fun video…I would never sell my collection! I tell people my collection is priceless to me regardless of its ’Discogs’ value. I am still expanding my collection and don’t see that changing, still gradually adding to the cd collection too. My reality has forced me to be very picky about what I add and I do not just buy used records and stuff I haven’t really wanted, and therefore my collection is not giant but is full of cool stuff I do enjoy on rotation. I think the fun of it all is the fact everyone has their own motivations and preferences and that’s what is interesting. At 58 the only thing that will likely ever happen to my collection is a pass down to my one son someday. Hopefully it will be much larger than it already is by then! ✌️
Greetings Sir Mazzy of Upper Seattle. Excellent video (as per usual). I most enjoy your 'rambling' videos as it is like having a coffee chat with you. I also most enjoy your videos with Dizzy et al. He is in my age bracket (I was born in 1950) and I to have started a succession plan. My adult daughter and family decided it was time (trending) to get into 'vinyl' (Records). I bought them a great higher end USB turntable and higher end powered speakers. I am purging great title LPs for them from my collection and they are also designing a wall to display LP covers!!. Over the 70's and 80's moves I somehow lost many LPs and or maybe lost them at parties....who knows. Like you I have replaced key loved LPs over the years. My main interest in the past 10 years or so (high gear during covid) was/is fully restoring vintage (60s /70/s) HiFi gear. For many of my crony lifelong friends (who still have some vinyl retained) I gave them on their 70 birthdays fully restored hifi systems exactly what they had in the 70s - I know what they had as I was the go to guy helping them find and purchase said systems back then. Well...enough of my ramblings! The bottom line is that my LP collection is in full succession mode! Hi to Sir Dizzy.
South Seattle 🍸
The Discogs low, medium, and high estimate is the approximate collective worth of the collection, based on Discogs sales data. You would never get those $ totals if you sold your entire collection to a single buyer. In those cases, it would be a fraction of the estimate because you would be, in effect, selling your collection at wholesale rather than retail, more often than not to a buyer who plans to resell the albums individually. To maximize your profits and come close to the Discogs estimate you would need to price and sell the albums individually. That's what the collection estimates represent, which should be obvious.
Of course. As I said you’d be bet get high it even medium as you’d never sell everything individually and if you had to ship everything individually ? Oy😳.
So if a patron wants to kick in a half million for an distant collection 🤠🤷🏻♂️
"Oy" and then some. I've been selling part of my collection (CD and vinyl) piecemeal on Discogs the past year. Lots of investment in cardboard and trips to the PO. So far the response has been positive and steady. But I can appreciate how the time and effort involved would make the all-at-once method seem attractive.
That is a typical question from an American, you always see your hobby, your collection as an investment. You think too much about money, that's why you don't have it🙂 I would not sell my collection even when somebody pays me more than "high", it took so much time to find it and also WHY sell it and WHY think about selling.
I think you might be missing the point of this entire video. I’ve never seen my collection as an investment. When I sold this 2000 back in 1995, it was too move duplicates I was getting in the form of CDs and clear out some room.
Adding my collection to Discogs is a database issue, to know what I have for me and eventually for my son. Seeing the. Possible value on Discogs is really only a by product of using their site.
I posted the video as an open question to anyone. But in the end, I would certainly move to Porto if someone offered me the high number from Discogs 😬🤠😎
THANK YOU MAZZY…!
This was a great, interesting video with so many aspects that one is constantly exploring. To collect (whatever) is a fascinating process. Well my collection is just about the size/amount you had in the background. I’ve nurtured it over the decades even during the cd highs. But I also sell chunks of it from time to time to finance further (costlier) purchases, which makes for me a dynamic collection and has my attention. But would I sell it all if someone offered a fair price? Yes!!
I'd probably do a "Willy Wonka", and just give them away to a friend of mine one day.