Hi Richard. It’s Steve from Cattonpark junction (Newcastle). I just wanted to say again thank you for a great event. I thoroughly enjoyed it and also a pleasure to meet you and hope to keep in touch and see you in the future too
I have been binge watching your videos over the past couple of days and I love your content. It’s given me inspiration for my own model railway and where I can take it. Thank you so much 😊
Had to chuckle regarding 4D especially as I work in an industry that talks about 3D, 4D and (wait for it) 5D. Wondering now about 3D printing v card modelling?
Excellent video Richard thank you. I don’t want to think about how many times Ive been through Hadley Wood tunnel but it looks a lot better when not actually on the train. Happy Modelling!
Just wanted to say I am new to this and have been watching all of your videos - they are very informative and very appreciated. Not at the point of even laying track yet but will be soon. Thank you and keep the content coming
Hi Richard - enjoyed your update. Your tunnel portals have given me an idea for my own layout and a way to disguise the exit/entrance to my 2nd helix. Looking forward to seeing the portals in a finished state and trains thundering through them. Cheers Euan
Great video, you can really start to picture how it will look when you laid out the portals + track. I lowered my tunnel portals to make them nice and realistic too...then I bought a track cleaner wagon that was just slightly taller that the coaches so it got stuck 😂
Nice video Richard. I’m pleased you are going for a scratch built tunnel - as you said, it will be unique. I’m really looking forward to the scenery coming together on that section.
Modellers license says you can make supporting structure narrower for the needs of the model. You could shrink the width of the buttresses on the tunnel, this would make the tracks closer together, and thus ease the inside radius, and the curtain walls less wide, giving you a little more leeway with the outer scenery. While it's a big step for a novice(?) you could consider a point kit, or designer pointwork to get the visuals of the sweeping curve looking right.
Looking good Richard, nice to see how scratch building is done on camera and getting your plans onto physical boards to get a visual idea of how you want your layout to look. Keep up the great work and see you at GETS Cheers James
Hi Richard really enjoyed the video and glad your going with 4 main lines and you can’t beat a scratch build, the tunnel will look great and unique!! Looking forward to what you do next with the tunnel and layout 😊Cheers Gary
Funnily enough I'm just about to start a tunnel mouth on my own N gauge. I shall happily and unashamedly nick your ideas. Good choice of prototype; the curved wing walls look very good Richard
Looks like you could add a wooden board fillet on the left of the baseboard at the join as you approach the tunnel mouths, that would allow you to bring the track beds over slightly to the left and lessen the curve of the tracks enter the tunnel mouths giving you a straighter track course. Just an idea. Where the other board abuts on your title shot for the video there looks to be scope to add in the board here.
As Peco now promote correct sleeper spacing for Bullhead track, can someone ask them to do the same from factory for concrete sleeper track? Drop a few sleepers off not only will it look more prototypical for UK track they might save on plastic too! Come on Peco save us the mind numbing process of respacing.
Superb ,it’s going to look great and your assistant is doing a great job with the track all smooth curves though no DOG legs ,sorry may PAW joke All the best Mark 👍🏻👍🏻😃😃
Great video Richard and glad to see you are doing a 4 track mainline, that is something I would like to do if I ever have the ability to build my own layout, good to see more progress being made on the layout and really good to see some scratchbuilding from you.
There is nothing I like more than when building a diorama, saying "All I've got left to do is....." lol And then reality kicks in. Great video, I am so far behind with catching up with your work. MY assistant is a sheep dog who seems to confuse sleepers with dog treats help!!
Great work Richard, could I suggest leaving the track as is and bringing the tunnel mouths forward by 15-30cm? I know that means less visible track but that would result in the line of the track being straighter out of the tunnel mouths and you would not get the ‘sharp curve into tunnel look? I think that would look more natural. 😊👍🏼
Nice progress Richard. I like the idea of a 4 track main line. It will be impressive to see once trains are running on it. It will be very close to what you see on the East Coast Main Line. - Nicholas.
Interesting stuff….I have a similar situation that needs addressing on my layout, trying to hide those horrible tight corners. I’m looking forward to seeing how your layout develops 👍👍👍 Cheers from John b😎
That inside curve looks very tight for an area that you say you want trains running at a fast scale speed. Working the largest radius curve to the point where it becomes a straight along the wall and then working from back to front where your track setter radius tool was laying might leave you with that innermost curve being pretty tight. Difficult to tell with cameras giving poor depth perception, but getting the radius correct on the innermost track might save you frustration later.
Hi Rich, Just a thought….. If you move the tunnel portal back along the curve, although it won’t be on the baseboard join you will be able to show off the 2 portals & their tunnel wings to a better effect. It will also provide a bit more space for scenic work as the portals will be on a angle which will provide a better view for spectators. With some clever foliage you could still disguise the join.
Brilliant update mate I do think this bit of the layout will look awesome with the scenery and the 225 and 125 coming out of the tunnel. Curved points have their ups and downs I would avoid them if possible especially if you got to work objects with the scenery has I found out a couple of weekends ago. But by all means if no objects in the way then try it. Take my friend looking forward to the next update. Kind regards Gary @leicesterstationandtmd OO Gauge Model Railway
Good Work Richard its going to be a fantastic layout indeed I guess it will be ready in time for Flying Scotsman 100 so 60103 can run round the layout with a set of Pullmans or a rake of Mk1 coaches like we see on the main line
WOW - your introduction is amazing!!! If you're going to have tunnel, having title plates on the ends of the tunnel for viewers would be a cool idea. It would have the name of your layout and may have other things... As far as realism goes; i have watched many videos on your last layout but forgot how it looked and i forgot if you had high-speed trains, but if you seeking realism and have high-speed trains you may have to make bigger tunnels, right?! If you have them!! It was a great video and i did enjoy it!!! Can't wait to see the final results!!
use black foamcore board .its very light easy to cut and is 5mm thick so keeps its form better .downside it can be pricey .i use it all the time and build ultra lightweight small layouts from it.i have used it for 10 years and if looked after it has very little problems.
Hi there, cool project you're building. As for the pointwork, why not use Tillig Elite points, they're really detailed and slightly flexible as well. Ideal to use in that smooth curves of your double main lines.
Great work Richard, could I suggest leaving the track as is and bringing the tunnel mouths forward by 15-30cm? I know that means less visible track but that would mean the line of the track would be straighter out of the tunnel mouths and you would not get the ‘sharp curve into tunnel look?
Great scene for your diorama Richard!! Very informative and I enjoy following your endeavors. BTW have you considered adding a slight super-elevation to the outside rail on the curves? That will provide a pleasing, smooth, flowing look to the track. and a more proto look for fast trains. - Alex K.
I hate to be a naysayer on this Richard but I think this will get some major revision before it works. Great idea and good work but I think that structure needs at least a 3' wide baseboard to work and it needs to be at least one coach length down, (towards the camera) so that the swing of the coach ends entering that 2nd. radius curve won't be seen. I'm watching this with great fascination. David.
Loving the videos- great inspiration as I am just returning to model rail after 40yr gap! Many thanks for tips and advice! Just a thought following ep4. - you’ve left appropriate height in the raised section for lorries/buses. Haven’t researched motorised roadway systems but I wonder what sort of clearance you might need when installing your preferred system?? Just a thought! Great videos! Many thanks. Gary
I’m really enjoying the videos. If you don’t mind me saying the tunnels in my opinion would look more better placed further into the straight section of the board at an angle with the left side at a almost diagonal with the right side further back. It would make the perspectives look better with the curves looking more prototypical for a mainline, also you would get both of the wings on the board.
Great stuff yet again, I have created a new space with a floor area of approximately 21ft by 9ft and I intend building my own layout within, I'm watching this with a vested interest now, I hope you don't mind if I take some of your ideas, thanks for your videos, they are a mine of information.
Looking good Richard. Talking of the curved points being too sharp, I think Richard at EJ cut the sleeper webs of a straight point to gently curve it when it didn't quite fit (new layout - loco siding I believe off the top of my head). Maybe something to experiment with?
Nice work. You need to pickup a cheap 3D printer like the Voxelab Aquila. I've got a ton of tunnels on the layout here, and 3D printing is the way to go. You do the same math and prototyping that you do with scratch building, but you can then reproduce it over and over again. The computer also does precision curves. 3D printers are about the same price as a DCC Ready Loco these days! :) As for the curved points, be careful with them. I've got three of them on the layout here, didn't really have a choice as I had to use them, but they can be quite temperamental until you fit point motors.
Are you going to use zone control, and then you can keep the speed down in the tunnel, and then when they enter into the new zone, the express tracks, you can have them accelerate.
The right hand tunnel mouth looks right with the invert beginning to appear. Are you sure that inward sloping curve at the base is not present on in the other bore on the prototype?
Hi Richard, finally caught up with your updates. Just one note on the tunnel portals, would it not be a better idea to fix them to the corner board and keep the scenery fully on that board? The thinking behind that is less likely to get damaged during transporting to and from shows and it will also keep the board split lines hidden. Just a though, thanks JR
Sorry to be a pedantic old git, but tracks should run straight into a tunnel and not curve, move the tunnel portal forward 4” to let the trackbed be straight, that also gives some room for scenic hill the tunnel enters to be scratch built and a black tunnel inside “tube” to replicate the tunnel darkness
@@NewJunction In its raw form, the foam board is weak but once the cladding is on, it becomes a hardened structure. Hope that helps you or someone in the future 🙂
Good to see the progress! What radius are the curves going off screen going to be? Looks like it will be tight for 4th/3rd to be square at the tunnel portal? Is having the tunnel portal on the edge of the scenic board not going to be venerable to damage, and the joint line will be over the top of the tunnel mouth - even move visible? Would moving the tunnel portal further onto the board make for a stronger construction and all the curves to finish inside the hill? Just a few thoughts, sorry if this is sounding negative, since you have made far more layouts than I have. Have you installed point motors or will this be done later? Great video!
Smashing. Has anyone suggested Finetrax point kits? They can be curved, during assembly, to match your track curve, doing away with the awful dog leg you get when a fixed geometry point doesn't quite fit into the flow of the formation. Bob
@@NewJunction I've used them on the scenic section of my layout with a slight curve. That experience convinced me that more was possible. I can recommend them and they're a really good price. Bob
Great progress Richard it won't be long before you've got some trains running through them tunnels. Have you had any thoughts on the tunnel mouth brick arches? Dave from Dean park had justun at scale model scenery make some up for his layout. They looked pretty cool👍. I think express points would be a good shout as I believe everard junction was getting some greif with some new tea tankers in his fiddle yard. Looking forward to the next update.
Trains drive on the left don't they? The line you pointed at towards the end of the video should be the line where a Class 91 should go barreling "in" to the tunnel I think? The track nearest to you/the operating well in the middle would be the tunnel exit line if you are following UK normal "drive on the left" for Up slow, Down slow, Up fast, Down fast. Glad you are going for 4 tracks though, more is more! 😁
Coming along nicely, not wishing to throw cat amongst the pigeons but have you thought about hand building the points? I know it seems scary at first but it’s really not that difficult and you can get some really flowing junctions.
@@8nedgehilldieselservicingd212 I've been hankering after modelling Bangor station... will definitely have to make my own points if I'm to accurately reproduce the trackwork into the engine shed... overlapping points and all sorts!
@@theelectricmonk3909 it’s really not that difficult once you start, although it can be a bit intimidating at first, I’ve built track in 7mm, EM and now in 4mm but it’s very therapeutic once you get into it
Also, would it be better if you moved the tunnel entrances to a position where the track was more straight? This would look more like the real thing (not that you're copying it slavishly) and will allow you to ease the curves in the off scene section. They look as if they might be a bit tight. Anyhow, good stuff. Bob
Did you watch the LNER driver cab rides as they amazing real-time videos also ask network rail. They will send u and drawings on it with Measurements and all that
@0:13 Need another coffee to properly get into gear... Took me _way_ too long to realize what was going on with the absolute _mini_ Unit in the sceneries 🤣 Was he done using one of those full body Scanning and 3d Printing services or DIY with a Smartphone using Photogrammetry / Lidar? 🤔
Great film. What is '4D' by the way? ( do you mean 3D ?). Not being 'clever', genuinely wondering if there is a gap in my knowledge. Your outer buttress could just be chopped. The viewer is in effect standing on a hill, looking down, and from there they wouldn't see the whole of that buttress, it would looked chopped.
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I’ll be watching this with much interest. So far looks so promising
Thanks!
nice to see apart of my local area on your layout 👍👍
Hi Richard. It’s Steve from Cattonpark junction (Newcastle). I just wanted to say again thank you for a great event. I thoroughly enjoyed it and also a pleasure to meet you and hope to keep in touch and see you in the future too
The pleasure was all mine, great to see a fellow northerner in the deepest darkest South haha
Keep in touch and I'll see you soon no doubt!
@@NewJunction Will do keep in touch and already looking to next years shows and even looking to go to Warley too
Excellent, Keep right on.
Thanks!
I have been binge watching your videos over the past couple of days and I love your content. It’s given me inspiration for my own model railway and where I can take it. Thank you so much 😊
Great to hear Joe, hopfully the binge watch was worth while! Good luck with the new layout, I'm sure it'll be amazing!
Me and my husband always enjoy watching your videos
Great to hear Caroline!
Nice operation 👍♐️
Thanks!
Great work... all the more that you were able to break our plain of existence and model in 4D. Brilliant. lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Baby brain duh! 😅
The 4th dimension is Time.
@@jolla9963 Not actually true. That was a TV show statement which has worked into general myth.
Had to chuckle regarding 4D especially as I work in an industry that talks about 3D, 4D and (wait for it) 5D. Wondering now about 3D printing v card modelling?
I grew up down the road from that tunnel portal!
Nice! I bet you can't get near it?
These video keep me entertained for hours. Thanks for all the hard work!
Glad you enjoy them!
Thanks for sharing the journey of your railroad with us!
You're very welcome!
Amazing video mate, absolutely love the design of the tunnels. Such an inspiration to all in the model railway hobby. Thanks for sharing 😊
Very kind, many thanks!
WOW - your introduction to start scratch building is amazing
Glad you enjoyed it Brian!
Looking good and glad to see the planning and ideas progress.. All the best, Chris
Thanks Chris!
Great video. Really enjoyed it as usual. Looking forward to the next episode.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Looking good so far Richard. Keep up the great job your doing.
Thanks Paul
Great video. This is certainly an ambitious layout and I can't wait to see how it develops in the coming months / years!
Thanks Al!
Great golf course at Hadley Wood too 😉
Good to know lol
Excellent video Richard thank you. I don’t want to think about how many times Ive been through Hadley Wood tunnel but it looks a lot better when not actually on the train. Happy Modelling!
Thanks Kevin!
Very nice update Richard!!! Thanks for sharing this video! Cheers Onno.
Thanks Onno
Just wanted to say I am new to this and have been watching all of your videos - they are very informative and very appreciated. Not at the point of even laying track yet but will be soon. Thank you and keep the content coming
My pleasure, really pleased you enjoy the videos! Richard
Nice bit of card scratch building there mate, I've not scratch built anything for a few months now, might have to think something up now...
.cheers!🙂
Its great fun as just as the weather turns lol
Hi Richard - enjoyed your update. Your tunnel portals have given me an idea for my own layout and a way to disguise the exit/entrance to my 2nd helix. Looking forward to seeing the portals in a finished state and trains thundering through them. Cheers Euan
Thanks Euan!
Great video, you can really start to picture how it will look when you laid out the portals + track. I lowered my tunnel portals to make them nice and realistic too...then I bought a track cleaner wagon that was just slightly taller that the coaches so it got stuck 😂
Ha, ill have to double and triple check
Nice video Richard. I’m pleased you are going for a scratch built tunnel - as you said, it will be unique. I’m really looking forward to the scenery coming together on that section.
When are youncoming to help? 😁
@@NewJunction put the kettle on, I’ll be there in 5 😂
@@DartsideScenics I've got a kettle.. and I've been known to make good brews 😅
@@NewJunction 😂
Modellers license says you can make supporting structure narrower for the needs of the model. You could shrink the width of the buttresses on the tunnel, this would make the tracks closer together, and thus ease the inside radius, and the curtain walls less wide, giving you a little more leeway with the outer scenery. While it's a big step for a novice(?) you could consider a point kit, or designer pointwork to get the visuals of the sweeping curve looking right.
Both good suggestions, thanks Neil
❤ to lulu! 4 main line tracks will surely be impressive! Great video mate! Looking forward to more updates on this layout 😊
Won't be long now
@@NewJunction Awesome!!
Looking good Richard, nice to see how scratch building is done on camera and getting your plans onto physical boards to get a visual idea of how you want your layout to look. Keep up the great work and see you at GETS
Cheers
James
Thanks James! Can't wait for GETs 😁
Coming along great. Love the tunnel portals
Thanks Bruce!
Hi Richard really enjoyed the video and glad your going with 4 main lines and you can’t beat a scratch build, the tunnel will look great and unique!! Looking forward to what you do next with the tunnel and layout 😊Cheers Gary
Thanks Gary!
Funnily enough I'm just about to start a tunnel mouth on my own N gauge. I shall happily and unashamedly nick your ideas. Good choice of prototype; the curved wing walls look very good Richard
Feel free, you'll no doubt make a better job of it haha. I'd like to see your results once built. 😊
Starting to take shape and can see where your going with it scenic wise looking forward to the next update soon have it all done
Cheers pal
Looks like you could add a wooden board fillet on the left of the baseboard at the join as you approach the tunnel mouths, that would allow you to bring the track beds over slightly to the left and lessen the curve of the tracks enter the tunnel mouths giving you a straighter track course. Just an idea. Where the other board abuts on your title shot for the video there looks to be scope to add in the board here.
Good stuff Richard 👍🏻I think that’s a brilliant idea and will definitely give the desired effect of the real thing
Thanks Marcus
That looks fantastic 😀😀😀
Thanks Dan
Great progress. This is definitely going to look impressive!
Hopefully!
Great video Richard 👍💯👍 it will look ace mate 👍💯👍
Thanks Dylan
Great work young Padwan, keep it up. Paul
Cheers me deers 🦌 😘
(3d) … Great job … and a most enjoyable video, thank you … another great scratch builder is “Tony North Eastern” 🙏
Yes a fantastic channel!
Tunnel Portals are coming along nicely Richard. I’ve only just started catching up with this and I’m working backwards. Keep up the good work 👍
Cheers me dears
As Peco now promote correct sleeper spacing for Bullhead track, can someone ask them to do the same from factory for concrete sleeper track? Drop a few sleepers off not only will it look more prototypical for UK track they might save on plastic too! Come on Peco save us the mind numbing process of respacing.
It would save me a job thats for sure
Great progress of the new layout keep it up
Thanks 😊
Watching your videos is helpful as I am creating my own layout at the moment
@@modelrailwayproductions7683 glad you find them useful, will you film your build?
Not sure about filming at the moment may do in the future
Superb ,it’s going to look great and your assistant is doing a great job with the track all smooth curves though no DOG legs ,sorry may PAW joke
All the best
Mark 👍🏻👍🏻😃😃
I think you're barking up the wrong tree with those puns...
@@NewJunction loooool or Lou 😃😃
Nice one Richard
Great video Richard and glad to see you are doing a 4 track mainline, that is something I would like to do if I ever have the ability to build my own layout, good to see more progress being made on the layout and really good to see some scratchbuilding from you.
Thanks David!
Hi going to use the portal idea on on my as I have a similar problem great video thankyou for the tips and video
You're welcome Mark
There is nothing I like more than when building a diorama, saying "All I've got left to do is....." lol And then reality kicks in. Great video, I am so far behind with catching up with your work. MY assistant is a sheep dog who seems to confuse sleepers with dog treats help!!
Haha just fish them out the other end....
Great Stuff Richard
Cheers Dave!
Great work Richard, could I suggest leaving the track as is and bringing the tunnel mouths forward by 15-30cm? I know that means less visible track but that would result in the line of the track being straighter out of the tunnel mouths and you would not get the ‘sharp curve into tunnel look? I think that would look more natural. 😊👍🏼
I'll give it a try, like most im lacking in length..........
😂😂, I’m always told it’s what you do with it?!?
Nice progress Richard. I like the idea of a 4 track main line. It will be impressive to see once trains are running on it. It will be very close to what you see on the East Coast Main Line. - Nicholas.
Thanks Nicholas
Interesting stuff….I have a similar situation that needs addressing on my layout, trying to hide those horrible tight corners.
I’m looking forward to seeing how your layout develops 👍👍👍
Cheers from John b😎
Nice job
Nick Australia
Thanks Nick
That inside curve looks very tight for an area that you say you want trains running at a fast scale speed. Working the largest radius curve to the point where it becomes a straight along the wall and then working from back to front where your track setter radius tool was laying might leave you with that innermost curve being pretty tight. Difficult to tell with cameras giving poor depth perception, but getting the radius correct on the innermost track might save you frustration later.
100%, there's no getting away from it the inside line (up slow) will be second radius once past the tunnel portal.
Tunnel posral looks very impressive even at this stage.
Cheers
Hi Rich, Just a thought….. If you move the tunnel portal back along the curve, although it won’t be on the baseboard join you will be able to show off the 2 portals & their tunnel wings to a better effect. It will also provide a bit more space for scenic work as the portals will be on a angle which will provide a better view for spectators. With some clever foliage you could still disguise the join.
Food for thought!
Brilliant update mate I do think this bit of the layout will look awesome with the scenery and the 225 and 125 coming out of the tunnel. Curved points have their ups and downs I would avoid them if possible especially if you got to work objects with the scenery has I found out a couple of weekends ago. But by all means if no objects in the way then try it. Take my friend looking forward to the next update. Kind regards Gary @leicesterstationandtmd OO Gauge Model Railway
Thanks Gary!
Good Work Richard its going to be a fantastic layout indeed I guess it will be ready in time for Flying Scotsman 100 so 60103 can run round the layout with a set of Pullmans or a rake of Mk1 coaches like we see on the main line
Ha I wish Terry, bit rich for my blood all that!
WOW - your introduction is amazing!!! If you're going to have tunnel, having title plates on the ends of the tunnel for viewers would be a cool idea. It would have the name of your layout and may have other things... As far as realism goes; i have watched many videos on your last layout but forgot how it looked and i forgot if you had high-speed trains, but if you seeking realism and have high-speed trains you may have to make bigger tunnels, right?! If you have them!! It was a great video and i did enjoy it!!! Can't wait to see the final results!!
Glad you like it!
It's going to be good 👍
Fingers crossed Mark!
Excellent video! It's really statrting to come together now! :)
Thanks 😊
@@NewJunction NP!
You are far more experienced than I , Richard, therefore I can only offer encouragement, not criticism. 😊
I'll never be beyond feedback Steve 😊
I want to see the finished 4D portal and what the extra dimension adds! 😃
It must be a time tunnel.
Next time we install a Stargate! 😅
use black foamcore board .its very light easy to cut and is 5mm thick so keeps its form better .downside it can be pricey .i use it all the time and build ultra lightweight small layouts from it.i have used it for 10 years and if looked after it has very little problems.
I'll look into it
Hi there, cool project you're building. As for the pointwork, why not use Tillig Elite points, they're really detailed and slightly flexible as well. Ideal to use in that smooth curves of your double main lines.
I’m being pulled through the 4th dimension 🔮
The fourth dimension being « engagement « !
Great work Richard, could I suggest leaving the track as is and bringing the tunnel mouths forward by 15-30cm? I know that means less visible track but that would mean the line of the track would be straighter out of the tunnel mouths and you would not get the ‘sharp curve into tunnel look?
Great scene for your diorama Richard!! Very informative and I enjoy following your endeavors.
BTW have you considered adding a slight super-elevation to the outside rail on the curves? That will
provide a pleasing, smooth, flowing look to the track. and a more proto look for fast trains. - Alex K.
You need customized fast track jigs for your curved turnouts
100%
I hate to be a naysayer on this Richard but I think this will get some major revision before it works. Great idea and good work but I think that structure needs at least a 3' wide baseboard to work and it needs to be at least one coach length down, (towards the camera) so that the swing of the coach ends entering that 2nd. radius curve won't be seen. I'm watching this with great fascination. David.
Its all part of the fun David, hope you're keeping well!
@@NewJunction Not bad Richard, Hoping to see you at Warley again this year, just an idea at the moment.
My handy assistant is just sleepin
Ha mine normally is..
@@NewJunction lol
Loving the videos- great inspiration as I am just returning to model rail after 40yr gap! Many thanks for tips and advice! Just a thought following ep4. - you’ve left appropriate height in the raised section for lorries/buses. Haven’t researched motorised roadway systems but I wonder what sort of clearance you might need when installing your preferred system?? Just a thought! Great videos! Many thanks. Gary
I’m really enjoying the videos. If you don’t mind me saying the tunnels in my opinion would look more better placed further into the straight section of the board at an angle with the left side at a almost diagonal with the right side further back. It would make the perspectives look better with the curves looking more prototypical for a mainline, also you would get both of the wings on the board.
Worth a look, ill have a play 😊
Great stuff yet again, I have created a new space with a floor area of approximately 21ft by 9ft and I intend building my own layout within, I'm watching this with a vested interest now, I hope you don't mind if I take some of your ideas, thanks for your videos, they are a mine of information.
Help yourself, thats what this should be about sharing ideas and no doubt vastly improving them
Looking good Richard. Talking of the curved points being too sharp, I think Richard at EJ cut the sleeper webs of a straight point to gently curve it when it didn't quite fit (new layout - loco siding I believe off the top of my head). Maybe something to experiment with?
Good idea that, ill have to investigate
Nice work. You need to pickup a cheap 3D printer like the Voxelab Aquila. I've got a ton of tunnels on the layout here, and 3D printing is the way to go. You do the same math and prototyping that you do with scratch building, but you can then reproduce it over and over again. The computer also does precision curves. 3D printers are about the same price as a DCC Ready Loco these days! :) As for the curved points, be careful with them. I've got three of them on the layout here, didn't really have a choice as I had to use them, but they can be quite temperamental until you fit point motors.
Great idea! I need to.share with someone as I'm short on pennies
Are you going to use zone control, and then you can keep the speed down in the tunnel, and then when they enter into the new zone, the express tracks, you can have them accelerate.
The right hand tunnel mouth looks right with the invert beginning to appear. Are you sure that inward sloping curve at the base is not present on in the other bore on the prototype?
Might be worth investing in a Cricut machine if you've got loads more scratch build to do. Anyway, nice seeing onwards and upwards progress Richard.
If only I had the pennies, they look great!
Hi Richard, finally caught up with your updates. Just one note on the tunnel portals, would it not be a better idea to fix them to the corner board and keep the scenery fully on that board? The thinking behind that is less likely to get damaged during transporting to and from shows and it will also keep the board split lines hidden.
Just a though, thanks JR
Hi John, good idea that, ill do some fetling
Wonder if I get get my spaniel to do some sleeper spacing?........mint!
Either way I'm not doing it haha
@@NewJunction LMFAO
Sorry to be a pedantic old git, but tracks should run straight into a tunnel and not curve, move the tunnel portal forward 4” to let the trackbed be straight, that also gives some room for scenic hill the tunnel enters to be scratch built and a black tunnel inside “tube” to replicate the tunnel darkness
Its all about compromise, I'd need to move it another 2ft forward to get it on a relatively straight bit of track.. not much layout left haha
Personally I would have used foam board and clad it but we all do things differently, well done though.
Great Idea, I needed something that could be lent on haha
@@NewJunction In its raw form, the foam board is weak but once the cladding is on, it becomes a hardened structure. Hope that helps you or someone in the future 🙂
motive power depot whith pits is a good idea and over heads
I wish!
mabe one day nuthing is inposabull whith clever thinking engenuitty
Good to see the progress! What radius are the curves going off screen going to be? Looks like it will be tight for 4th/3rd to be square at the tunnel portal? Is having the tunnel portal on the edge of the scenic board not going to be venerable to damage, and the joint line will be over the top of the tunnel mouth - even move visible? Would moving the tunnel portal further onto the board make for a stronger construction and all the curves to finish inside the hill? Just a few thoughts, sorry if this is sounding negative, since you have made far more layouts than I have. Have you installed point motors or will this be done later? Great video!
Hi Gavin, comment away its all welcome feedback.
I still need to play around with the location of stuff. Point motors go in once the track is down.
Good times laying track.... does the 4D mean it's a time portal too??
Star gate!
Smashing. Has anyone suggested Finetrax point kits? They can be curved, during assembly, to match your track curve, doing away with the awful dog leg you get when a fixed geometry point doesn't quite fit into the flow of the formation.
Bob
I'll take a look
@@NewJunction I've used them on the scenic section of my layout with a slight curve. That experience convinced me that more was possible. I can recommend them and they're a really good price.
Bob
@@robertbage5052 thanks Bob, appreciate the suggestion 👍
Great progress Richard it won't be long before you've got some trains running through them tunnels. Have you had any thoughts on the tunnel mouth brick arches? Dave from Dean park had justun at scale model scenery make some up for his layout. They looked pretty cool👍. I think express points would be a good shout as I believe everard junction was getting some greif with some new tea tankers in his fiddle yard. Looking forward to the next update.
I'll need to have a look at what Daves got
@@NewJunction it's the May 2022 video that he's talks about them 👍
Trains drive on the left don't they? The line you pointed at towards the end of the video should be the line where a Class 91 should go barreling "in" to the tunnel I think? The track nearest to you/the operating well in the middle would be the tunnel exit line if you are following UK normal "drive on the left" for Up slow, Down slow, Up fast, Down fast. Glad you are going for 4 tracks though, more is more! 😁
The ECML is up slow, up fast, down fast, down slow 😊
@@NewJunction Aah, that makes a lot more sense, thank you!! 👌🏻
Coming along nicely, not wishing to throw cat amongst the pigeons but have you thought about hand building the points? I know it seems scary at first but it’s really not that difficult and you can get some really flowing junctions.
I had for a nano second but I feel it may be out of my budget lol
@@NewJunction To be honest if you can make your own vee’s etc (takes a bit of practice) it can work out far cheaper in the long run
@@8nedgehilldieselservicingd212 I've been hankering after modelling Bangor station... will definitely have to make my own points if I'm to accurately reproduce the trackwork into the engine shed... overlapping points and all sorts!
@@theelectricmonk3909 it’s really not that difficult once you start, although it can be a bit intimidating at first, I’ve built track in 7mm, EM and now in 4mm but it’s very therapeutic once you get into it
which controllers do you use ?? Great show
How’s a azuma work dimension wise , same with 40ft hi cube container boxes.
Neither are taller than catenary 😊
Also, would it be better if you moved the tunnel entrances to a position where the track was more straight? This would look more like the real thing (not that you're copying it slavishly) and will allow you to ease the curves in the off scene section. They look as if they might be a bit tight.
Anyhow, good stuff.
Bob
Definitely worth playing around with before deciding 👌
Where do you find the point templates as I can’t find any more on peco website
Ps am n gaugev
Is Episode 7 the latest video, or are more to come on this track build?
Its the latest update video so far....
On the graph paper can you see the 3D view of the tunnel portal, or was this already mentioned? Nice job.
You could draw the 3D view
Can I ask where you got your display cabinets from
Picture pride cabinets 😊
Thanks
Did you watch the LNER driver cab rides as they amazing real-time videos also ask network rail. They will send u and drawings on it with Measurements and all that
Network rail have been very helpful thus far 😊
@0:13 Need another coffee to properly get into gear... Took me _way_ too long to realize what was going on with the absolute _mini_ Unit in the sceneries 🤣
Was he done using one of those full body Scanning and 3d Printing services or DIY with a Smartphone using Photogrammetry / Lidar? 🤔
He/I was done by ModelU who scan you and turn you into a figure.
Great film. What is '4D' by the way? ( do you mean 3D ?). Not being 'clever', genuinely wondering if there is a gap in my knowledge. Your outer buttress could just be chopped. The viewer is in effect standing on a hill, looking down, and from there they wouldn't see the whole of that buttress, it would looked chopped.
No its my baby brain striking again! 😅
@@NewJunction Ah ....
Is it a time portal ? For the 4th dimension. Joking aside, nice work. I recently made 4 single portals with my 3D printer.
Oooo that sounds interesting, was it filmed?
@@NewJunction sorry no it took 3 hrs for each portal to print. The down side of 3D printing. It’s so slow
@@Theoriginalborgy shame, I'd like to see the results 😄