I find it to be boring as hell. You always just hit where you want. I do use the Mantis X system and line that, but mostly I use the laser bullet to shoot at the center of the fan, the dogs (kidding……), light switches and so on. It is a bit expensive for what you get IMO.
Not sure if it would be worth the investment but the dryfiremag company makes a visible laser system that allows you to fire, without having to rack the slide. Any idea if mantis training is compatable with any laser sight system ? Or are they exclusively mantis product's ?
It is picked mine up recently (the smart dry fire mag + laser + this app)...sorry just re-read your question, not with any laser sight system but with the Dryfire mag & Dryfire laser combo kit (it's $300)
I honestly can’t believe we are getting into this much semantics over my statement. This is TH-cam comment section at its finest. 😂 I buy ammo in 200 round boxes which cost about $55 each. 🤦♂️
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It DOES work with the dry fire mag, but then it won't work with the laser. You can pick up a "smart" dry fire mag and laser combo that will work with this. If you don't have a red dot on your gun then that's probably the way to go. If you have a red dot then a regular dry fire mag + this would work out pretty well.
This is why I bought airsoft. Same model Glock in green gas. Trigger feels the same. Slide recoils with each shot. You don't want to drop the mag as they will break over hard dirt or concrete and accurate to 15 yards. My local indoor range closed with covid so I practice at home. Range re-opened and I went back to shoot live. Hits at center at 25 yards. It ain't perfect but I bought 20 bucks of pellets 3 years ago and the inside fire ones I have recovered constantly. They dont break down as fast as I'd like so don't shoot them around chickens. my dogs leave them alone. Buy a bottle adapter for coleman propane bottles. One has lasted me a year. Not saying the mantis isnt a valuable training aid but I'm not drlling cycling the slide between every shot. Just an extra training aid. Glock licensed Aiursoft G17. Even fits my carry holster perfect.
If only they made an HK VP9SK gas blowback airsoft pistol. I absolutely love airsoft and have many pistols and rifles (as well as many actual firearms) it has been proven again and again that airsoft can and does translate to real worthwhile training, but it’s also fun for me when I have the itch to go shooting and don’t wanna pack up and go to the range. Sadly I don’t have enough private property to be able to shoot at home
I didn't buy the kit. I just bought the red laser and downloaded the app. Whe I try to use the open training, it trys to connect and fails. I am assuming I have to buy the kit to use the app?
The kit works by monitoring their smart targets and recording the impacts so you would need to have the compatible smart targets for the app to monitor using your phone camera
@@DefendersAndDisciples would you still have to re-rack the slide even with a double action pistol? Comparing this to the strikeman, the strikeman does not require rerack for double action pistols.
I doubt this is really a realistic training tool. Caliber, cartridge load, make of hangun (brand), recoil, stress, interesting but useless. Live fite drills are best
@BlackAdder1970 Live fire being the best does not mean this product is “useless.” It’s supplemental training like dribbling a basketball at home outside of formal practice or games. Don’t make “good” the enemy of “perfect.”
i thought mantis didn’t do paid subscriptions 😐
I was surprised as well. It is a turn off. At least for me.
Get a T trigger magazine so you can shoot more than once
Double action …
I find it to be boring as hell. You always just hit where you want. I do use the Mantis X system and line that, but mostly I use the laser bullet to shoot at the center of the fan, the dogs (kidding……), light switches and so on. It is a bit expensive for what you get IMO.
Dry Fire is boring but this makes it less boring. Have you tried the ACE Virtual Reality Shooting Simulator
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cycling the action after each shot is a pretty big dealbreaker for me imo
What do you currently do for dry fire?
Not sure if it would be worth the investment but the dryfiremag company makes a visible laser system that allows you to fire, without having to rack the slide. Any idea if mantis training is compatable with any laser sight system ? Or are they exclusively mantis product's ?
I'm thinking Taurus g2c or g3 type because double strike capability
It is picked mine up recently (the smart dry fire mag + laser + this app)...sorry just re-read your question, not with any laser sight system but with the Dryfire mag & Dryfire laser combo kit (it's $300)
@@TK-mj9rd I’m about to get the dryfire mag/laser, any flaws you find? I have the original DF mag and I love using it.
Do you have to cycle with a double action hammer fired pistol?
@@chedderburg Yes
@@chedderburg I don’t think so but every shots will be double action
No you don’t
No
Add a Dryfire Mag and you don't need to rack the slide.
The price of two boxes of ammo? Lol thats less than 40 😂
When did I say “two boxes”?
@DefendersAndDisciples you said a few, but at $13.99 for a 50rd box, you'd need to buy about 12 boxes of ammo to break even.
I honestly can’t believe we are getting into this much semantics over my statement. This is TH-cam comment section at its finest. 😂
I buy ammo in 200 round boxes which cost about $55 each. 🤦♂️
@@DefendersAndDisciples where?
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Would this work with a dry fire mag, to eliminate the constant resetting of the firearm?
It DOES work with the dry fire mag, but then it won't work with the laser. You can pick up a "smart" dry fire mag and laser combo that will work with this. If you don't have a red dot on your gun then that's probably the way to go. If you have a red dot then a regular dry fire mag + this would work out pretty well.
how long does laser last Reviews say issues with laser lasting?
I don’t know how long it last, but I have never had to replace the battery and I believe it takes a watch battery
How much does the app cost?
This is why I bought airsoft. Same model Glock in green gas. Trigger feels the same. Slide recoils with each shot. You don't want to drop the mag as they will break over hard dirt or concrete and accurate to 15 yards. My local indoor range closed with covid so I practice at home. Range re-opened and I went back to shoot live. Hits at center at 25 yards. It ain't perfect but I bought 20 bucks of pellets 3 years ago and the inside fire ones I have recovered constantly. They dont break down as fast as I'd like so don't shoot them around chickens. my dogs leave them alone. Buy a bottle adapter for coleman propane bottles. One has lasted me a year.
Not saying the mantis isnt a valuable training aid but I'm not drlling cycling the slide between every shot. Just an extra training aid.
Glock licensed Aiursoft G17. Even fits my carry holster perfect.
Airsoft is very good training.
If only they made an HK VP9SK gas blowback airsoft pistol. I absolutely love airsoft and have many pistols and rifles (as well as many actual firearms) it has been proven again and again that airsoft can and does translate to real worthwhile training, but it’s also fun for me when I have the itch to go shooting and don’t wanna pack up and go to the range. Sadly I don’t have enough private property to be able to shoot at home
Airsoft is king!
I’m assuming you have the Elite version.
Does it come with the laser cartridge or do you have to buy that separate?
Mine came with the laser cartridge
this thing seems amazing! will be getting one soon! thanks for this
😊
I bought the rhino laser bullet and downloaded the mantisx app. I cannot connect. Do I need more than just the laser bullet to use the app?
Do you have the smart targets?
No, I don't
I didn't buy the kit. I just bought the red laser and downloaded the app. Whe I try to use the open training, it trys to connect and fails. I am assuming I have to buy the kit to use the app?
The kit works by monitoring their smart targets and recording the impacts so you would need to have the compatible smart targets for the app to monitor using your phone camera
Ok. Thank you very much for the content and help. I really appreciate it! Keep up the good work. I will be training for sure.
Necessity of reSlide is only for striker guns, no?
reSlide?
@DefendersAndDisciples racking the slide?
Sorry for my Cherokee vocabulary
Oh. Yes, you have to cycle the action for semi automatic pistols with this.
Or, you can buy American steel, hammer fire.
@@DefendersAndDisciples would you still have to re-rack the slide even with a double action pistol? Comparing this to the strikeman, the strikeman does not require rerack for double action pistols.
Have you ever experienced a Squib load misfire from this product?
I doubt this is really a realistic training tool. Caliber, cartridge load, make of hangun (brand), recoil, stress, interesting but useless. Live fite drills are best
Do you employ dry fire in your training?
@BlackAdder1970
Live fire being the best does not mean this product is “useless.” It’s supplemental training like dribbling a basketball at home outside of formal practice or games.
Don’t make “good” the enemy of “perfect.”
The best hitters in the world still use a batting tee and soft toss.......they don't always crank up the pitching machine to 100 mph.....