Trade unions in Liverpool | Are the strikes affecting business? | 1970s Liverpool | 1978 | Part 1

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  • Part one of a heated debate held in a Labour club in Liverpool. In this section the panel and audience discuss the strikes that have paralyzed major industry in the area which has lead to factory owners threatening to close them and re locate elsewhere.
    Host: JOHN WITHINGTON
    Panel: GEORGE ALCOCK, CHAIRMAN, PORT USERS COMMITTEE
    ERIC HEFFER MP
    EDDIE LOYDEN MP
    DAVID MOWAT, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT OFFICER /
    Recorded in 1978
    If you would like to license a clip from this video please e mail:
    archive@fremantle.com
    Quote: VT18465
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  • @regplasma7906
    @regplasma7906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You can almost smell the beer, smoke , hai karate ,brylcreem and farts in this beautiful cinematic piece.Thank you Thames Tv.

    • @freddiebozwell7049
      @freddiebozwell7049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then home for a vesta curry.

    • @Myndir
      @Myndir 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "What cologne you gonna go with? London Gentleman, or wait. No, no, no. Hold on. Blackbeard's Delight."
      "No, she gets a special cologne... It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good."
      "It's quite pungent... It's a formidable scent... It stings the nostrils. In a good way."
      "Yep!"
      "Brian, I'm gonna be honest with you, that smells like pure gasoline."
      "They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time..."

  • @carmencornelianastase1240
    @carmencornelianastase1240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good morning !
    Have a nice Weekend!🍀🌼🍀❄️⛄❄️✨🍀 What a Beautiful people !🤗

  • @briansparks8528
    @briansparks8528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The beginning of the end

  • @th8257
    @th8257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A good indication of how just moribund much of British industry was by the 1970s. Britain had been in industrial decline since the 1800s. Overtaken by America and Germany and then other countries, who used modern techniques and machinery with workers and management moving together to make competitive, high quality products. In Britain meanwhile, we stuck to declining industries using antiquated methods and machinery, with workers and management squabbling over who could overpay themselves more with lower and lower profits, while fewer and fewer people bought our products because in many cases they were notoriously shoddy.

    • @CA999
      @CA999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Worse still now they would not even report such tensions between workers and management. Certainly not in any detail. It would be some other distraction or content filler. Perhaps with some effort in the business section you will find out about expanding markets elsewhere but in not in the Anglo-American countries.

    • @mfletch3205
      @mfletch3205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The rot started post WW1. Not only did it wreck the economy and result in loss of financial security but it also cost us the cream of the UK’s youth. The last collapse could be seen post WW2 with the jet industry. Here we had a product and a lead yet we managed to blow it (even giving the USSR Rolls Royce engines!).
      In regards to the post war industrial problems there were several issues. Firstly the U.K. seemed to think that the rest of the world owed us and secondly that the U.K. population would keep buying poor quality products or services just because they were British. The truth was that the population as a whole had enough of power strikes,car strikes,bin strikes and crap cars.
      The cars even if crap would have sold if they had been built properly. Nobody should buy a brand new car and find that it was incorrectly wired or that the gearbox was trashed after a few thousand miles.
      However much the left decry Thatcher they sowed the seeds for her election. It was inevitable that enough would be enough.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mfletch3205nope, it started in the late 1800s, WW1 simply accelerated it. Britain's share of world trade between 1880 and 1913 declined from 38% to 30% and by 1913, Germany's manufacturing output had overtaken Britain's, and Britain had also fallen to third place in steel production behind Germany and the USA. The industrialist Andrew Carnegie famously said that British industry was being left in the dust by the USA and Germany because we in the UK were still using equipment and methods that were out of date by twenty years, even then. We were no longer the only industrial power - the USA and Germany had caught up and overtaken us, and we couldn't keep up.

  • @michaelmoran2022
    @michaelmoran2022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use to live in Allerton as a kid remember Ford use to have union meetings on South liverpool fc Holly Park, my dad could never get petrol ,and there was never bread in the shops remember them days
    Like it was yesterday.

  • @margarethoughton3577
    @margarethoughton3577 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LABOUR !!! GO BACK TO THE 50's then 80's With DEREK HATTON!!! Liverpool brought to it's knees!

  • @marcelolinhares8233
    @marcelolinhares8233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    with all respect because of this, became Liverpoor.

  • @donny4855
    @donny4855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can we have more of this please , especially this meeting 🙏

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles ปีที่แล้ว

    @5:09 - It's Shoestring !

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @5:00 - Why does this guy remind me of Ronnie Barker ?

  • @DelCampoProductions.
    @DelCampoProductions. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content.

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @5:33 - Gotta get that wig straight !

  • @MilesBellas
    @MilesBellas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    To Asian countries this is seen as a failure of hierarchy and an avenue for domination.
    .
    Greed at the top, entitlement at the bottom = collapse
    .
    3:00
    employers simply employed Asian companies and now some Liverpool home can be bought for pennies.
    Entitled union myopia was blind to globalisation.
    The whole docklands area of Liverpool is full of decaying warehouses.
    Red Robbo, the greed of "aristocrasy", lack of investment in regional education.. ..created mass regional decline........more far reaching and permanent than WWII.

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @6:50 - LMAO ! Don't they all look enthralled ?

  • @deanstanley5799
    @deanstanley5799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A labour club on Merseyside!😂😂

  • @kieranwhite6647
    @kieranwhite6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought that was a young David Mitchell on the thumbnail...

    • @bluemooninn
      @bluemooninn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it was Alan Partridge

    • @Myndir
      @Myndir 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      David Mitchell is my favourite Liverpudlian. The only one I like, really.

  • @GrandLordGeek
    @GrandLordGeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Owners never take a haircut, it’s always the workers who get fucked. Solidarity forever.

  • @marcelolinhares8233
    @marcelolinhares8233 ปีที่แล้ว

    poor people,both sides.

  • @lameduck3630
    @lameduck3630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Liverpool brought on its own decline.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Liverpool, like so many other places, lost so much of its reason to exist. It came to prominence as a port to handle the trans Atlantic cotton trade and immigration to America and Canada. Once that dried up, the writing was on the wall. Other cities had similar problems - Newcastle for example grew up on the coal trade. Once that went, Newcastle's main reason to exist disappeared. But with those challenges to deal with, it's a good indication of how just moribund much of British industry was by the 1970s and how insane we'd become about it. Britain had been in industrial decline since the 1800s. Overtaken by America and Germany and then other countries, who used modern techniques and machinery with workers and management moving together to make competitive, high quality products. In Britain meanwhile, we stuck to declining industries using antiquated methods and machinery, with workers and management squabbling over who could overpay themselves more with lower and lower profits, while fewer and fewer people bought our products because in many cases they were notoriously shoddy.

    • @donny4855
      @donny4855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No you miscreant, the Tories did, we don't lay down and roll over for Tories

    • @philmcchrystal1670
      @philmcchrystal1670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No they didn’t, for crying out loud look at the state of this country now, British Gas are trying to dismiss their workforce and re-employ them on less money and poor working conditions, this was exactly what the people of Liverpool were fighting for. Just check your history, up until a few years before this dockers we’re employed as casual labour and the dockers has no idea how they were going to feed their families. If you want to comment then check on what you are commenting on

  • @Bill-cv1xu
    @Bill-cv1xu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The shop steward was on point,a fine representation..

  • @philmcchrystal1670
    @philmcchrystal1670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Poor management leads to poor industrial relationships

  • @ralphmillais5237
    @ralphmillais5237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These people were delusional. They were soon unemployed. Mugs. Yet you go there now and you still hear people blaming Thatcher for the fact they are personal failures. Mugs never learn.

    • @krisburgess2857
      @krisburgess2857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What the hell are u talking about mate thatcher destroyed the whole labor movement in the 1980’s mate u need to take your rose colared glasses off

    • @ralphmillais5237
      @ralphmillais5237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@krisburgess2857 I suppose it is Thatcher's fault you cannot write properly.

  • @dackesjulag
    @dackesjulag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And you can see why now Liverpool went into decline and its nothing to do with the tories.

  • @marklola12
    @marklola12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horrid accent, Liverpool has the worst accent in the whole of UK, 2nd is Gordie's

    • @jon123xyz
      @jon123xyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Give it up. Your attitude is dead.

    • @TomTom-gh1nf
      @TomTom-gh1nf ปีที่แล้ว

      Bad whopper

    • @margarethoughton3577
      @margarethoughton3577 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silly Arse😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉

    • @Myndir
      @Myndir 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mancunian is also appalling. And South Yorkshire. Terrible places, terrible accents.
      (I'm not hating: I feel sorry for the people there.)

    • @johndowd5792
      @johndowd5792 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Knobhead ! Scouse power.