Paul, you have a fantastic job of explaining everything about the connections with existing trackage and how people will actually use the new stations and cross connections in the future. You should be employed by future rail projects as a publicity promoter as you you see the construction as an end-user point of view. Well done and thank you! Between you and @Taitset we have “down under” equivalents of Geoff Marshall and RMTransit.
Honestly I've learnt so much from these fellas yt vids that whenever trains or the metro is brought up with mates I start rattling off the info they've provided. Wherein the past I would've shrugged and said "your guess is as good as mine".
Nah. The locals are much better than RMTransit: they don’t introduce their naive politics into their videos. I went from enjoying RM to not wanting to watch him again.
Thanks David, for your wonderful feedback. I did do a publicity role for the Jubilee Line Extension in London back in 1999. Although I'm open to doing a similar role now, I wouldn't want it to prevent me from doing these videos. It was watching Geoff Marshall's videos that inspired me to start my channel!
Thanks for making these very comprehensive and enjoyable videos. Living (and relying on public transport) in Melbourne means I'm excited about this project and it's great to see so much information about it in one place (ok, two places!). I also like that you included some of the artwork that's been put up on some of the hoarding. You've put a lot of work into this, and your work and enthusiasm is appreciated!
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoy watching them! Looking forward to seeing the new stations when they opens, and it sounds like this could be next year!
Wonderful conclusion to this series! Hopefully you also get to make a series on Metro 2 one day. And I'm just rather amused that it should all conclude at South Kensington station, the most famously underused of all Melbourne stations.
South Kensington has been described by some as Melbourne’s worst station. It seems sadly that it may retain this title. Or is there a surprise in store?
Fantastic videos. Very thoughtful and thorough explanation of construction of this project. I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you for all your effort in putting this together
Thanks Andrew, glad you enjoyed them. Yes it was a lot of work to put these videos together at the time, and it's great to see how popular these videos have become!
Fantastic Paul, congratulations and so worth the wait. Glad you slipped in a mention of Metro 2 as well because that will be a real game changer for this city
Lol. Please tell me your enough to understand political promises. The state is virtually bankrupt. They’re sacking public servants, cutting services and cancelling other major projects. Metro 2 isn’t coming any time soon.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! Yes it would, but I think Metro 2 is going to be a few years away. It would be good to see the rail link to the airport happen first.
Museum Station Melbourne was renamed because the Melbourne Museum physically moved to a different location. The Museum used to be housed in the State Library facility and was more know for the museum than the library outside of academic circles. So the name was changed to Melbourne Central still being reflective of its location. Sydney had nothing to do with it in what was a far less connected time than now.
Thanks Andrew, Glad you enjoyed it! yes I've been back at my normal home for a while now. Also did a trip to Brisbane last month, so a Cross River Rail explained will be coming soon! And yes I did enjoy Melbourne and will definitely be back!
Thanks, I've found that Metro Tunnel socials have done a good job at promoting the project and sharing images from the works, but this was helpful for info at a more granular level.
Yes they do a good job at promoting the project and sharing construction images. Its great when they also include narration and interviews with engineers on the project. I find those very helpful!
Thanks Adrian, glad you enjoyed them! I felt that this historic project required an in-depth explainer! I'm doing a similar series for Cross River Rail in Brisbane next.
Thanks Terence, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, both these Metro Tunnel videos are bringing in new subscribers, which I was hoping they would do. Edging closer to 10K now!
Wonderful informative videos. Thanks and please come back anytime to explain more of our city to us I learnt so much. You have to marvel at the incredible amount of planning and design that goes into a project like this, let alone the execution of it.
Thanks Hiram, glad you enjoyed it! Yes will do! There is lots of other stuff to talk about! Yes these projects require an immense about of planning and design! It certainly took me a while to get my head around it, especially the two CBD stations!
Great follow up to Vid #1 on the Melbourne Metro! You are a Maestro, with all the info and dedication you have put into all your video's... Cheers from Melbourne...
The fun part of the State library station is that when opened Museum station actually had an entrance almost in the same place. It had a country booking office and everything but was closed off when Melbourne central was developed
Hi Neale, that's interesting! Thanks for sharing this! I did some research on the Melbourne Central development, and it seemed to be a little controversial with walking times for passengers lengthened as a result.
Absolutely magnificent video. It's rumoured that escalators linking the interchange at Parkville for metro 1 and 2 could be 50 meters long, overtaking Parliament station's escalator
Thanks Robbie, I'm in Melbourne at the moment, and I took a look at both State Library and Parkville Stations yesterday evening. At least one of the Parkville entrances had escalators in place! The concrete structure for the southern entrance to State Library station is quite visible now!
Thanks, this is a very informative video and I've felt more here than whatever publication there's been about the Metro Tunnel. I wonder if you filmed this at a quiet time as I would imagine it'll take a few shots among switching trains to avoid another train coming into view and blocking the intended subjects.
Hi Fauzi, I filmed the on-train footage during the off-peak on weekdays in early March. It was challenging for sure, especially on the trains from Sunbury that were only running every 20 mins and were very busy. I was there for 3 days, and the on-train footage took a day to do! It was worth it though, and meant that I got to check out Footscray and Caulfield!
It's coming! I was in Brisbane over Easter, so already have the footage. It will be in 3 parts and follow a similar format to these Metro Tunnel videos. In the meantime, do check out Steve's channel, as he's doing some excellent Cross River Rail updates - www.youtube.com/@StevesTechAndTransit
Museum station was renamed because Melbourne Museum used to be located next to the station in the State Library precinct but was rebuilt in another location. It made less sense to name the station that way given there was no longer a museum.
The "ugly building with its graffiti" that was demolished, while unarguably ugly, incorporated a really cool, little used spiral staircase entrance to Melbourne Central, complete with original blue tactile pads and balustrades in keeping with the original Melbourne Central station. Sad to see it gone, but I couldn't say it would have been useful given the new complex being built
If that canopy is for South Kensington Station I'm glad there is some plans to upgrade it even if it's a minor one, as you yourself probably realised it's not great. Even if it's just a clean up and some more shelter that would be good. But the big thing is the platforms, they really are not wide enough. I have heard somewhere that they plan to remove the tracks alongside the Metro Tunnel portal once it opens (I do hope they provide another connection from the Werribee/Williamstown lines to the Sunbury line though if that happens), and if they did one would think that would provide a chance to widen Platform 1. I don't know what you could do with Platform 2 due to the RRL tracks being there, perhaps with the Sunbury line tracks gone the tracks and both platforms could be moved so Platform 2 could be widened from the front instead of the back. I do hope though that something is done to make it more inviting, when the RRL was completed they funded a mural for the front of the station on Childers Street, however sadly that was painted over when the construction of the tunnel portal started. Perhaps re-instate that.
Hi Aiden, yes the canopy is a good start! It could definitely do with more shelters! Yes the tracks alongside the tunnel probably won't be used that much after Metro Tunnel, but they could be used for limited stop Werribee/Williamstown services. Hopefully something will happen to improve this station. It's a very poor cousin to the gorgeous South Kensington station in London, and I was a little disappointed when I arrived there for the first time!
Several people have commented that the museum has been relocated but fail to say where to. I would assume this would be Science Works at Spotswood, which appeared to be in its infancy when I was there ( when the Star Trek exhibition was on show in the 1990s). The nearby pumping station was really worth seeing! It has been 20 years since my last visit to Melbourne, so I am looking forward to seeing it again. An extremely comprehensive video, a far cry from the vague information I could ( not ) find on station entrances for the Sydney Metro particularly North Sydney (Victoria Cross), such as whether there will be subterranean connections to the existing North Sydney station.
Nup the Museum was moved to a new (ugly) building next to the Royal Exhibition Building on Nicholson Street, Carlton. It was such a pity as I used to love visiting in the old Library, it had charm. Once they built the new one I stopped going.
Hi Murray, I think @Caroline Taylor answered your question on where the museum now is. I'll remember the pumping station for next time! I plan to do in-depth explainers for all the Sydney Metro City & Southwest Stations. So far, I've only done Martin Place, but I did do a Victoria Cross video a couple of years ago, and I think I covered the entrances briefly. Here is a link to it - th-cam.com/video/I6Nl4l0Hlw4/w-d-xo.html. Hope this helps for now.
I reckon those concrete bars at the tunnel exit would ease the shock of driving into the afternoon sun, coming out of a westbound tunnel in the afternoon
I’m not from Melbourne but it’s pretty obvious the Parkville station is going to get insanely busy - right next to a huge hospital and a big University. Fantastic spot for a new station
Just a little tip for the City Loop, there are two tunnels that do not change direction at all. The Clifton Hill services (the Mernda and Hurstbridge lines) which operate from Platform 1 at the underground stations and from Flinders St, along with platform 9 at Southern Cross always runs clockwise. (Flinders St > Southern Cross > Flagstaff > Melb Central > Parliament, followed by Jolimont) And before they join the Metro Tunnel, the Dandenong services (Cranbourne and Pakenham lines) operates from Platform 2 at the underground stations, Southern Cross Platform 12 and normally Flinders St Platform 6; these services always run counter-clockwise (Parliament > Melb Central > Flagstaff > Southern Cross > Flinders St, followed by Richmond) Only the Northern Loop trains (Craigieburn & Upfield Lines) regularly run direct between Parliament and Flinders St, and since they do change directions, to go back to either station you would either have to go around the Loop, use a couple of trams, or walk.
Yes that's right! I probably should have mentioned that its only some of the lines that switch directions. Thanks for explaining that further! It's complicated and I really hope that in the future, all services would run in the same direction around the city loop!
The issue was a change was needed as the museum moved and I believe the shopping centre, which had tried to have the name changed earlier (and was rejected) was willing to pay for the new signage and changes hence MC. Agree it’s a ratty name. As is the fact there’s now 2 different station names for what is essential one station interconnected.
Keeping it named Museum Station would make no sense. Having Melbourne Central shopping centre and Melbourne Central station in the same location and named as such is fully reasonable and intuitive.
Thanks! I've already filmed Cross River Rail, so videos coming soon. Also checkout Steve who is a Brisbane local and is going some great Cross River Rail videos - www.youtube.com/@StevesTechAndTransit. I'm aware of Auckland's City Rail Link and I would like to take a trip across the ditch to do a video on that!
Thanks, very informative. Haven't seen your vids before but will look again. Seems strange and short sighted to me that the westbound tunnel track and the eastbound sunbury line track cross over at grade rather than over / under.
Hi Ivan, you're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed my metro tunnel videos. Yes do check out my Sydney ones, there are lots of Sydney Metro, and some other hidden gems too! On the westbound side, I think the plan is for all Sunbury Line trains to go via Metro Tunnel, so surface Sunbury tracks won't have much traffic, but if some Werribee and Williamstown trains start using these tracks, it would cause some conflicts.
Hi Paul, great video. It looks like with the connecting stations we will be getting several Central Walk lookalike tunnels here in Melbourne. Just wondering, you mentioned about platform screen doors being installed, will any these trains be driverless like the Metro in Sydney? I am still trying to work out how Melbourne becomes larger than Sydney by just including Melton. Sydney includes Campbelltown, Penrith, Waterfall, Cronulla and Woy Woy. Penrith from Sydney equals Geelong from Melbourne in distance. Anyway, wishing you the very best. Rob.
Hi Rob, the trains will still have drivers, so it will be more like the Elizabeth Line in London. I believe that train will automatically line up with the platform screen doors, so there is some automation happening. I'm not sure exactly how the population stats are calculated, but its sure been a talking point in the comments!
@@philroberts7238 Thanks for the update on that. Yes, I can believe our Melbourne metropolitan area is larger. I can see the skyline from down the end of the street and the skyscrapers seem to stretch way way across.
@@TransportVlog I am glad to hear that the train drivers are staying down here. Regarding our extra population here, this may be more in Melbourne CBD, Docklands, Southbank and Port Melbourne, as there seeme to be a lot more skyscrapers there these days. Box Hill is also turning into a city of skyscrapers as well.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for the correct street pronunciations. It's always hard to get these right, especially as I'm not a Melbourne resident, but I'll remember these for next time.
Parkville station is home to Melbourne Uni medical school and also the doherty infectious disease lab (other side). Pretty much a health hub for Victoria with RMH and peter mac on the other side.
Hi Jack, another Central update will be coming soon. All the visible work at Martin Place and Pitt Street stations is related to the over-station developments, so is not really transport related. I'm keeping an eye on Barangaroo, but not much visible progress there at the moment.
Yes. They have left a few gaps they could have placed a station. Fawkner Park up the other end would have given a 2 nd. St Kilda road and surrounding residential area station. And they could have put a station between the freeway entrance and the Childrens hospital.
@@xr6lad I think they've got the density of stations just right. Plenty of trams to go to those destinations. Too many stations equals slow service. It also greatly increases the cost of the project.
Glad you enjoyed it Laura, yes it would, but incorporating the Children’s hospital would probably mean some tight curves to get back towards Arden, so probably not that easy to do in practice.
Such a shame! But understandable if it’s not practical. Would have helped all the staff (including me!) and lots of patients get to the hospital moreneasily
Well The Northern Group and the Burnley Group still change directions. The Clifton Hill Group only goes clockwise in the City Loop and the Dandenong Lines (Cranbourne & Pakenham Lines) Are only going Anti-Clockwise. Also, a New Station will be Added named East Pakenham, But where will East Pakenham be placed somewhere east of Pakenham?
And people don't believe MM2 will be a thing, its right there in the designs, good chance it will be announced towards the end of MM1 construction. I would expect the Geelong fast rail project to use the new tunnels under the Yarra river to provide a much shorter connection to Geelong. The current regional rail link through Wydham Vale and Tarniet would be electrified and form part of the western leg of the Suburban Rail Loop. So much of the current LXRA projects that seem to offer nothing much to rail commuters except for nicer stations will start to be seen as the buliding blocks that were required for the overall plan to come together.
I take it you’re another young un that doesn’t understand the debt the Premier has got the state in and the problems we have ???? Yea he’s just canceled the airport rail BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF MONEY, sacking public servants, cutting services, there’s no money to repair roads but hey, he has plenty of money for a train project whose budget has blown out before it’s even been built 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Yes it would be great to see these happen! I personally that feel the most important priority after Metro Tunnel is the Melbourne airport link which would run via Metro Tunnel. This seems to have been put on hold for now which is a shame.
Geelong Fast Rail (What a joke) has been shelved, GOOD. MM2 will not be built. The Government's focus has been on Level Crossing removals and the SRL. As a result loads of spend and the rail network has hardly moved.
@@TransportVlog They could have it built within 4 to 5 years if they really wanted to. Broad gauge freight infrastructure exists from Albion to Jacana, and is mainly unused. What the State Government could do is to rebuild the the existing broad gauge trackbed and build an extra BG track from Albion, to save costs. And route it into the PTV Transit hub to avoid negotiating with the Airport. but no they insist in acquiring footpaths and building massive flyovers which adds massively to costs.
Sydney includes the Central Coast in its population figures - where as Melbourne does NOT include Geelong (despite being closer and having higher frequency of trains). So it has had more population for some time
It was very handy if I were eating in the lower food court and needed to catch a tram on Latrobe St. especially handy during Melbourne’s famous extreme weather events☔️🌧️🌦️☀️🥵
Hi Simon, Unfortunately no! The stations are too far apart for a direct connection. I just checked now, and according to Google Maps, it will be about a 10 minute walk between stations.
It should reduce journey times, as I reckon the Metro Tunnel route via Anzac will be quicker and more reliable than the current route from South Yarra to the CBD. And you already have the lovely new HCMT trains and in future, the ETCS signalling system will also allow more trains to run.
@@TransportVlog the High Capacity trains is very nice I must say if you can get a seat. It's still choca block during peak times due to trains running every 20 minutes and no one jumps off untill after Dandenong since the areas after Dandenong are growing fast. Metro needs to run trains more oftern or express trains to Dandenong and then stop all stations to Pakenham.
Just FYI, none of your onscreen links showed up for me, I'm viewing on mobile. Not sure if it's a problem on my end. By the way, great video! The USA could learn from projects like this.
Hi Jacob, yes that sometimes happen, especially on mobile and on Smart TVs as well! The links to all those videos are in the description, and most appear at the end of the video as well. Great to hear from someone in the USA!
Hi, Do you know if there will be any pedestrianisation of Grattan St itself? There are constant movement of students and staff across the current Grattan St construction site everyday due to it forming a border between the main campus and the Faculties of Business, and Economics, Law and Education on the Southern side. Such a shame if they returned that street to vehicles without making it easier for pedestrians to cross.
There will be a few more zebra crossings and a halving of traffic lanes which will make it easier to cross. A small linear park and winding pathway will be built on the north side of the street with a lot of trees planted to make a mini urban forest
My understanding is that there will be a single lane for traffic in each direction, and this will be primarily to access the uni buildings and local streets. Pedestrians and cyclists will have separate paths, and there will be several pedestrian crossings, so I reckon traffic speeds will be slow.
Fantastic video, thank you Paul. Sad to see that while the new tunnel is still due to be opened in 2025 the grafitti vandals are already there. Cheers from Europe, Rick
Hi Petit, it's to allow for longer trains in the future. Unlike surface level stations, its virtually impossible to extend the platforms of underground stations after they are built, so its common practice these days to built longer platforms for future capacity. the HCMT have been designed to allow an extra 3 cars to be added in the future if necessary. Hope this answers your question!
No, but the High Capacity Metro Trains which are already in service and will be the only trains in this new tunnel in the future will be using automatic stopping at platforms to align with the platform screen doors. In the future the entire line could probably be replaced with automated trains but that's a long way off given this tunnel connects the Pakenham & Cranbourne lines (which will be extended to Clyde eventually) and go all the way out to Sunbury, it'd be close to 35 other stations needing to be upgraded for automatic operations in the future. So it is possible, but unlikely that this becomes driverless, perhaps in a few decades time.
Hi Ethan, @drunkill answered this really well, so not much to add. On the London Underground, quite a few lines now have Automatic Train Control, but the drivers remain to close the doors and deal with any emergency situations, so I would suspect that would be the most likely option in Melbourne, but this would still be a few years away.
I wanted to mention as a RMH employee that the MRI machines had to be moved from lvl 1 due to the vibrations of the tunnel, up to the redeveloped floor on lvl 9. As far away from the tunnel as possible!
Thats interesting Max! I guess there would have been lots of vibrations when the TBMs were boring the tunnels. It would be interesting to know if there are any vibrations once trains start running.
In further good news they are dismantling the crane from the site between A'Beckett and Lt Lonsdale St. The crane is right outside my apartment window and I'm sure not going to miss the noise or 7 a.m. wake up calls of the massive engine rumbling in the morning.
Great video. The sheer stupidity of calling a station a totally different name that occupies almost right angles and is connected to any existing station boggles the mind.
I believe also that at one point they were considering calling Arden St Station North Melbourne because that's where it is, but that would have involved renaming North Melbourne Station West Melbourne, which is also where that is. The confusion that would have ensued as a result, not to mention the cost, put paid to the idea, which is probably just as well.
@@philroberts7238I can understand Arden St. It is separate by some distance. But State Library? Anywhere else in the world an interconnected interchange station like that would be named the same to avoid confusion. It’s barely a ‘new’ station more so than an expansion.
There are pros and cons of same name versus different names for nearby stations. These are explained well in this article -wongm.com/2017/12/connecting-melbourne-central-flinders-street-station-melbourne-metro/. - Its towards the end.
I’m dropping a comment to help you with the algorithm, but the changes this is gonna bring for the Pakenham/Cranbourne line fills me with such dread about the probably extra 20 minutes each way for my already 2 hour daily commute. :’(
I don't this video needs any help from the TH-cam algorithm! Its already in the top 10 most viewed videos on my channel! What is your commute and if you work in the CBD, could you use a different station to avoid extra changes?
Not really. Still nowhere near Sydney's and we have fallen behind Perth. All that spend and apart from the MM1 the Metro Rail Network has hardly moved.
About 30 years ago I evacuated from a train in the Loop between Parliament and Museum. Something happened (can’t remember if it was power or signals) but every train in that tunnel was stuck. So the driver opened the doors and we had to jump down and walk track side to Museum station. It was peak hour. And the freaky thing was you could still hear trains running in the adjacent tunnels. Not sure they’d allow that today as there was no walk way level with the door. People did help others down but not sure about the elderly or disabled.
why is it called state library and town hall, when State library is basically part of Melbourne Central and Town Hall part of Flinders Street Respectively
I'm not quite sure. There are pros and cons of giving nearby stations different names vs the same name, and I've seen examples of both in various other cities around the world.
Grey and red for Arden because of the industrial area Blue for parkville because of the hospitals near by Green for ANZAC because of the shrine and surrounding parks
I think they with burrow below them or go around them. In the CBD, the tunnels go under Swanston Street and that's it's probably for that exact reason! In Sydney, the metro tunnels also run under streets rather than buildings as much as possible within the CBD area.
Thanks for that! I'll remember those pronunciations for next time! In Sydney, we have A'Beckett's creek, so I just assumed it was pronounced the same way! Glad you enjoyed this video.
As watch all this construction I wonder if the circular lines should have taken priority since the construction in the center will draw ever more people there not exactly promoting decentralization...
@@TransportVlog Yeah, exactly, further inducing demand... We need to pull people AWAY from the CBD and create attractiv alternatives alogn the/a outer circle line. It's vital! All good urban rail/metro systems have highly functional circular lines.
Nice video and good to see Australia's two largest cities getting modern transport. The argument of who is the bigger city is predictable and tiresome. I see Sydney constrained for the next 3 to 5 years whilst infrastructure and housing shortages are rectified.
Glad you enjoyed it! Having come from London, which was so much bigger than any other UK city, I think its wonderful to have the largest 2 cities being around the same size. Sydney will struggle to get bigger in the longer term due to the surrounding national parks and coastlines.
Yes I'm inclined to agree. Once of the reasons I left London was because it had become so busy and populated, and Sydney is starting to get like that too. However, public transport is much more successful in densely populated cities, and for me, it means that I don't need to own a car (which I do like!).
Paul, you have a fantastic job of explaining everything about the connections with existing trackage and how people will actually use the new stations and cross connections in the future. You should be employed by future rail projects as a publicity promoter as you you see the construction as an end-user point of view. Well done and thank you!
Between you and @Taitset we have “down under” equivalents of Geoff Marshall and RMTransit.
Honestly I've learnt so much from these fellas yt vids that whenever trains or the metro is brought up with mates I start rattling off the info they've provided. Wherein the past I would've shrugged and said "your guess is as good as mine".
Nah. The locals are much better than RMTransit: they don’t introduce their naive politics into their videos. I went from enjoying RM to not wanting to watch him again.
Thanks David, for your wonderful feedback. I did do a publicity role for the Jubilee Line Extension in London back in 1999. Although I'm open to doing a similar role now, I wouldn't want it to prevent me from doing these videos. It was watching Geoff Marshall's videos that inspired me to start my channel!
@@xr6lad Yes I try to avoid politics and keep my videos as factual as possible.
@@lachlanbeagley2975 That's great Lachlan, glad you can tell your mates about what is happening!
Thanks for making these very comprehensive and enjoyable videos. Living (and relying on public transport) in Melbourne means I'm excited about this project and it's great to see so much information about it in one place (ok, two places!). I also like that you included some of the artwork that's been put up on some of the hoarding. You've put a lot of work into this, and your work and enthusiasm is appreciated!
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoy watching them! Looking forward to seeing the new stations when they opens, and it sounds like this could be next year!
Wonderful conclusion to this series! Hopefully you also get to make a series on Metro 2 one day. And I'm just rather amused that it should all conclude at South Kensington station, the most famously underused of all Melbourne stations.
The train will not stop at Kensington, so it will remain unused.
Thanks! Yes Metro 2 would be interesting! I quite liked South Kensington Station! It's a great place to film trains, but I didn't see many passengers!
South Kensington has been described by some as Melbourne’s worst station. It seems sadly that it may retain this title. Or is there a surprise in store?
@@madrx2 It won't be unused. Werribee stoppers and Williamstown services will still call at South Kensington.
@@mjcats2011 I meant the metro tunnel services won't stop there
Fantastic videos. Very thoughtful and thorough explanation of construction of this project. I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you for all your effort in putting this together
Thanks Andrew, glad you enjoyed them. Yes it was a lot of work to put these videos together at the time, and it's great to see how popular these videos have become!
I marvel at how they burrow under all these buildings without any of them collapsing...
Fantastic Paul, congratulations and so worth the wait. Glad you slipped in a mention of Metro 2 as well because that will be a real game changer for this city
Lol. Please tell me your enough to understand political promises. The state is virtually bankrupt. They’re sacking public servants, cutting services and cancelling other major projects. Metro 2 isn’t coming any time soon.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! Yes it would, but I think Metro 2 is going to be a few years away. It would be good to see the rail link to the airport happen first.
As a local melbournian, I didn’t even know that the Melbourne central entrance on Latrobe street even existed 😅
Ok maybe it's time for you get out explore Melbourne a bit more... me too for that matter.
Oh dear. Let me guess: the generation that’s going to ‘save the planet’ but seem to know really nothing about what’s around then.
Hi Mehdi, I think I discovered it by accident, or possibly curiosity!
@@TransportVlog not bad for a Sydneysider.
@@Karl-going-solo I think I've developed a 6th sense for things like this!
Great and comprehensive video mate , i can't even imagine how much time and work went into that.
Thank you .
Thanks! Yes a lot of time and effort went into this one, but I enjoyed researching it, filming it and explaining it.
Museum Station Melbourne was renamed because the Melbourne Museum physically moved to a different location. The Museum used to be housed in the State Library facility and was more know for the museum than the library outside of academic circles. So the name was changed to Melbourne Central still being reflective of its location. Sydney had nothing to do with it in what was a far less connected time than now.
100%. Apart from the fact the shopping centre paid for the name change.
That's exactly what he said in the video, you missed the joke then ignored when he said exactly what you said.
@@74_pelicans It sounded like an afterthought.
Yes that's right Michael. The Sydney mention was a humorous interlude!
@@xr6lad I wasn't aware of that!
Thanks for the great update Paul, I hope you are back in your normal home, but I have enjoyed your trip to MEL.
Thanks Andrew, Glad you enjoyed it! yes I've been back at my normal home for a while now. Also did a trip to Brisbane last month, so a Cross River Rail explained will be coming soon! And yes I did enjoy Melbourne and will definitely be back!
Thanks, I've found that Metro Tunnel socials have done a good job at promoting the project and sharing images from the works, but this was helpful for info at a more granular level.
Yes they do a good job at promoting the project and sharing construction images. Its great when they also include narration and interviews with engineers on the project. I find those very helpful!
That was Part 1 & Part 2.
Class Dismissed. 👏👏
That was way more detailed than I expected, great vid Paul!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed all the juicy details!
Great stuff mate - well done! Love how folks are passionate as you are about this stuff - really makes me happy - cheers.
Thanks George, glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent videos. Most comprehensive ones for the Metro Tunnel I've seen
Thanks Adrian, glad you enjoyed them! I felt that this historic project required an in-depth explainer! I'm doing a similar series for Cross River Rail in Brisbane next.
Another very comprehensive and informative vlog Paul. Thank you.
You're very welcome Eimja. Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing job Paul, you explained everything in detail. Otherwise we will know nothing about the Metro Tunnel as a commuter. Thank you!
Thanks for your lovely feedback Anushan, Glad you now understand the metro tunnel project more as a commuter.
Paul, all your videos have a big heavy quality label. Thank you for your work which is so enjoyable for your watchers
Thanks Georgy, I appreciate your lovely feedback!
Awesome again Paul. Must have taken you numerous hours to create. Well done.
Thanks! Yes it took quite a few hours! I just took it one step at a time!
Extremely well researched, amazing stuff, keep it up!
Thanks Tyler, glad you enjoyed it. Will do.
Both ( Part 1 & 2 ) excellent videos with comprehensive mapping and real-life images.
Thanks Gerry! - Glad you enjoyed them!
Brilliant and informative as usual Paul….the best on the inter web imho!…also good to see you subscription number increasing…
Thanks Terence, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, both these Metro Tunnel videos are bringing in new subscribers, which I was hoping they would do. Edging closer to 10K now!
It’s been amazing to watch Parkville station getting built from excavation to what it looks now from the VCCC building.
Yes, it must have been fascinating watching it being built! I was pleased that I could see quite a bit from street level.
fantastic coverage of the project !
Thanks!
Wonderful informative videos. Thanks and please come back anytime to explain more of our city to us I learnt so much.
You have to marvel at the incredible amount of planning and design that goes into a project like this, let alone the execution of it.
Thanks Hiram, glad you enjoyed it! Yes will do! There is lots of other stuff to talk about! Yes these projects require an immense about of planning and design! It certainly took me a while to get my head around it, especially the two CBD stations!
I appreciate the hard work you put in this very informative video. 😊
Thanks Peter! Glad you enjoyed it.
Great follow up to Vid #1 on the Melbourne Metro! You are a Maestro, with all the info and dedication you have put into all your video's... Cheers from Melbourne...
Thanks Greg, Glad you enjoyed part 2 as much as part 1. Yes it was a lot of work, but I enjoyed researching and explaining it.
Economic investigator Frank G Melbourne Australia is still watching this very informative content cheers Frank ❤
Great job on this 2-part series!
Thanks!
Paul . As usual you have nailed it.
Thanks Graham!
The fun part of the State library station is that when opened Museum station actually had an entrance almost in the same place. It had a country booking office and everything but was closed off when Melbourne central was developed
Hi Neale, that's interesting! Thanks for sharing this! I did some research on the Melbourne Central development, and it seemed to be a little controversial with walking times for passengers lengthened as a result.
Parliament also had a Vline booking office alongside the Collins St/Spring St exit. Not sure if Flagstaff had one but it opened much later.
Great research on your videos. Well done.
Enjoyed the video by the way.
Thanks Christos! Luckily lots of information was available on the internet, although it took some digging to find it!
Absolutely magnificent video. It's rumoured that escalators linking the interchange at Parkville for metro 1 and 2 could be 50 meters long, overtaking Parliament station's escalator
Thanks Robbie, I'm in Melbourne at the moment, and I took a look at both State Library and Parkville Stations yesterday evening. At least one of the Parkville entrances had escalators in place! The concrete structure for the southern entrance to State Library station is quite visible now!
Thanks, this is a very informative video and I've felt more here than whatever publication there's been about the Metro Tunnel. I wonder if you filmed this at a quiet time as I would imagine it'll take a few shots among switching trains to avoid another train coming into view and blocking the intended subjects.
Hi Fauzi, I filmed the on-train footage during the off-peak on weekdays in early March. It was challenging for sure, especially on the trains from Sunbury that were only running every 20 mins and were very busy. I was there for 3 days, and the on-train footage took a day to do! It was worth it though, and meant that I got to check out Footscray and Caulfield!
Really nice work! Great information!
Thanks John. Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks Paul for another brilliant and infornative video.
You're very welcome David, glad you enjoyed it.
Brilliant info and presentation
Thanks John
Would love to see a video like this one on Brisbane Cross river rail! It would be nice to see a breakdown of the station breakdown, history and plans.
It's coming! I was in Brisbane over Easter, so already have the footage. It will be in 3 parts and follow a similar format to these Metro Tunnel videos. In the meantime, do check out Steve's channel, as he's doing some excellent Cross River Rail updates - www.youtube.com/@StevesTechAndTransit
Museum station was renamed because Melbourne Museum used to be located next to the station in the State Library precinct but was rebuilt in another location. It made less sense to name the station that way given there was no longer a museum.
Hi Walmart, yes that's right, and that was the main reason for renaming this station.
The "ugly building with its graffiti" that was demolished, while unarguably ugly, incorporated a really cool, little used spiral staircase entrance to Melbourne Central, complete with original blue tactile pads and balustrades in keeping with the original Melbourne Central station. Sad to see it gone, but I couldn't say it would have been useful given the new complex being built
Unless... That's the aurora entrance you were standing in front of... I might have to go and investigate for myself, it's been years since I was there
Yes I remember that entrance from opening day. It was a rego wasn’t it?
That would have been fun to do! Thanks for sharing your memory of this spiral staircase!
great videos mate, very thorough
Thanks! Glad you enjoy them.
Really great. Many thanks.
Thanks Peter, glad you enjoyed it.
Great Video learnt a lot, would love to see more videos in Melbourne
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Yes, plan to do more trips to Melbourne.
Thank you for the detail!
You're very welcome Sam
If that canopy is for South Kensington Station I'm glad there is some plans to upgrade it even if it's a minor one, as you yourself probably realised it's not great. Even if it's just a clean up and some more shelter that would be good. But the big thing is the platforms, they really are not wide enough. I have heard somewhere that they plan to remove the tracks alongside the Metro Tunnel portal once it opens (I do hope they provide another connection from the Werribee/Williamstown lines to the Sunbury line though if that happens), and if they did one would think that would provide a chance to widen Platform 1. I don't know what you could do with Platform 2 due to the RRL tracks being there, perhaps with the Sunbury line tracks gone the tracks and both platforms could be moved so Platform 2 could be widened from the front instead of the back. I do hope though that something is done to make it more inviting, when the RRL was completed they funded a mural for the front of the station on Childers Street, however sadly that was painted over when the construction of the tunnel portal started. Perhaps re-instate that.
Hi Aiden, yes the canopy is a good start! It could definitely do with more shelters! Yes the tracks alongside the tunnel probably won't be used that much after Metro Tunnel, but they could be used for limited stop Werribee/Williamstown services. Hopefully something will happen to improve this station. It's a very poor cousin to the gorgeous South Kensington station in London, and I was a little disappointed when I arrived there for the first time!
You can already swap from Sunbury to Werribee/Williamstown at Footscray
Great video Paul!
Thanks!
Several people have commented that the museum has been relocated but fail to say where to. I would assume this would be Science Works at Spotswood, which appeared to be in its infancy when I was there ( when the Star Trek exhibition was on show in the 1990s). The nearby pumping station was really worth seeing! It has been 20 years since my last visit to Melbourne, so I am looking forward to seeing it again. An extremely comprehensive video, a far cry from the vague information I could ( not ) find on station entrances for the Sydney Metro particularly North Sydney (Victoria Cross), such as whether there will be subterranean connections to the existing North Sydney station.
Nup the Museum was moved to a new (ugly) building next to the Royal Exhibition Building on Nicholson Street, Carlton. It was such a pity as I used to love visiting in the old Library, it had charm. Once they built the new one I stopped going.
Hi Murray, I think @Caroline Taylor answered your question on where the museum now is. I'll remember the pumping station for next time! I plan to do in-depth explainers for all the Sydney Metro City & Southwest Stations. So far, I've only done Martin Place, but I did do a Victoria Cross video a couple of years ago, and I think I covered the entrances briefly. Here is a link to it - th-cam.com/video/I6Nl4l0Hlw4/w-d-xo.html. Hope this helps for now.
Great vid, very informative thanks
You're very welcome. Thanks for your lovely feedback.
I reckon those concrete bars at the tunnel exit would ease the shock of driving into the afternoon sun, coming out of a westbound tunnel in the afternoon
Yes quite possibly! I have seen them at other tunnel portals too, but its interesting that they aren't at the South Yarra portal.
@@TransportVlog South Yarra portal faces mostly South East so the sun wouldn't be head on
I’m not from Melbourne but it’s pretty obvious the Parkville station is going to get insanely busy - right next to a huge hospital and a big University. Fantastic spot for a new station
Yes it will be a popular station, and should take the pressure off the trams too. Looking forward to seeing this when it opens!
Great work mate
Thanks David
I miss the hungry jacks there outside Melbourne Central, especially since they got rid of the hungry jacks in Melbourne Central
Just a little tip for the City Loop, there are two tunnels that do not change direction at all.
The Clifton Hill services (the Mernda and Hurstbridge lines) which operate from Platform 1 at the underground stations and from Flinders St, along with platform 9 at Southern Cross always runs clockwise. (Flinders St > Southern Cross > Flagstaff > Melb Central > Parliament, followed by Jolimont)
And before they join the Metro Tunnel, the Dandenong services (Cranbourne and Pakenham lines) operates from Platform 2 at the underground stations, Southern Cross Platform 12 and normally Flinders St Platform 6; these services always run counter-clockwise (Parliament > Melb Central > Flagstaff > Southern Cross > Flinders St, followed by Richmond)
Only the Northern Loop trains (Craigieburn & Upfield Lines) regularly run direct between Parliament and Flinders St, and since they do change directions, to go back to either station you would either have to go around the Loop, use a couple of trams, or walk.
Yes that's right! I probably should have mentioned that its only some of the lines that switch directions. Thanks for explaining that further! It's complicated and I really hope that in the future, all services would run in the same direction around the city loop!
3:47 BURN 🔥 well done Paul. They made worse calling it Melbourne Central when it’s not even the central rail station.
The issue was a change was needed as the museum moved and I believe the shopping centre, which had tried to have the name changed earlier (and was rejected) was willing to pay for the new signage and changes hence MC. Agree it’s a ratty name. As is the fact there’s now 2 different station names for what is essential one station interconnected.
Thanks Anthony, yes it's a little confusing. Brisbane also has a Central Station, but Roma Street is larger.
Keeping it named Museum Station would make no sense. Having Melbourne Central shopping centre and Melbourne Central station in the same location and named as such is fully reasonable and intuitive.
Thanks. Very interesting.
You're very welcome Charles
Fantastic work. Can you come over and do the same for Auckland's City Rail Link and Brisbane's Cross River Rail?
Thanks! I've already filmed Cross River Rail, so videos coming soon. Also checkout Steve who is a Brisbane local and is going some great Cross River Rail videos - www.youtube.com/@StevesTechAndTransit. I'm aware of Auckland's City Rail Link and I would like to take a trip across the ditch to do a video on that!
Thanks, very informative. Haven't seen your vids before but will look again.
Seems strange and short sighted to me that the westbound tunnel track and the eastbound sunbury line track cross over at grade rather than over / under.
Hi Ivan, you're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed my metro tunnel videos. Yes do check out my Sydney ones, there are lots of Sydney Metro, and some other hidden gems too! On the westbound side, I think the plan is for all Sunbury Line trains to go via Metro Tunnel, so surface Sunbury tracks won't have much traffic, but if some Werribee and Williamstown trains start using these tracks, it would cause some conflicts.
Hi Paul, great video. It looks like with the connecting stations we will be getting several Central Walk lookalike tunnels here in Melbourne. Just wondering, you mentioned about platform screen doors being installed, will any these trains be driverless like the Metro in Sydney? I am still trying to work out how Melbourne becomes larger than Sydney by just including Melton. Sydney includes Campbelltown, Penrith, Waterfall, Cronulla and Woy Woy. Penrith from Sydney equals Geelong from Melbourne in distance. Anyway, wishing you the very best. Rob.
The Greater Sydney region is still larger than the Greater Melbourne region, but the metropolitan area is now smaller than that of Melbourne.
Hi Rob, the trains will still have drivers, so it will be more like the Elizabeth Line in London. I believe that train will automatically line up with the platform screen doors, so there is some automation happening. I'm not sure exactly how the population stats are calculated, but its sure been a talking point in the comments!
@@philroberts7238 Thanks for clarifying that Phil
@@philroberts7238 Thanks for the update on that. Yes, I can believe our Melbourne metropolitan area is larger. I can see the skyline from down the end of the street and the skyscrapers seem to stretch way way across.
@@TransportVlog I am glad to hear that the train drivers are staying down here. Regarding our extra population here, this may be more in Melbourne CBD, Docklands, Southbank and Port Melbourne, as there seeme to be a lot more skyscrapers there these days. Box Hill is also turning into a city of skyscrapers as well.
A'Beckett St pronounced ah'beckett by locals, like the "a" in apple. Great video. And Bouverie St as Boo-ver-ry.
Yes, pronounced as in Thomas A'Beckett - him wot was murdered in the Cathedral.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for the correct street pronunciations. It's always hard to get these right, especially as I'm not a Melbourne resident, but I'll remember these for next time.
Parkville station is home to Melbourne Uni medical school and also the doherty infectious disease lab (other side). Pretty much a health hub for Victoria with RMH and peter mac on the other side.
Yes absolutely! I noticed that when I was there!
There is also a high school exit right by parkville station, my friends go there!
Cool! I hadn't noticed that!
When will do you think you will be able to do another update on the Sydney CBD stations Paul?
Hi Jack, another Central update will be coming soon. All the visible work at Martin Place and Pitt Street stations is related to the over-station developments, so is not really transport related. I'm keeping an eye on Barangaroo, but not much visible progress there at the moment.
This is great!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks! 😀
So informative! I do wish they had incorporated the Children’s hospital in to the plans though…. Would have been amazing
RMCH is several blocks away
Yes. They have left a few gaps they could have placed a station. Fawkner Park up the other end would have given a 2 nd. St Kilda road and surrounding residential area station. And they could have put a station between the freeway entrance and the Childrens hospital.
@@xr6lad I think they've got the density of stations just right. Plenty of trams to go to those destinations. Too many stations equals slow service. It also greatly increases the cost of the project.
Glad you enjoyed it Laura, yes it would, but incorporating the Children’s hospital would probably mean some tight curves to get back towards Arden, so probably not that easy to do in practice.
Such a shame! But understandable if it’s not practical. Would have helped all the staff (including me!) and lots of patients get to the hospital moreneasily
Well The Northern Group and the Burnley Group still change directions. The Clifton Hill Group only goes clockwise in the City Loop and the Dandenong Lines (Cranbourne & Pakenham Lines) Are only going Anti-Clockwise. Also, a New Station will be Added named East Pakenham, But where will East Pakenham be placed somewhere east of Pakenham?
I got a private tour of Arden Station in March, after the PSDs and tracks were installed. It was recorded and put on the RPV channel.
Thats awesome! Was it this video? - th-cam.com/video/hK-0WI1BDM8/w-d-xo.html
And people don't believe MM2 will be a thing, its right there in the designs, good chance it will be announced towards the end of MM1 construction. I would expect the Geelong fast rail project to use the new tunnels under the Yarra river to provide a much shorter connection to Geelong. The current regional rail link through Wydham Vale and Tarniet would be electrified and form part of the western leg of the Suburban Rail Loop. So much of the current LXRA projects that seem to offer nothing much to rail commuters except for nicer stations will start to be seen as the buliding blocks that were required for the overall plan to come together.
I take it you’re another young un that doesn’t understand the debt the Premier has got the state in and the problems we have ????
Yea he’s just canceled the airport rail BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF MONEY, sacking public servants, cutting services, there’s no money to repair roads but hey, he has plenty of money for a train project whose budget has blown out before it’s even been built 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Yes it would be great to see these happen! I personally that feel the most important priority after Metro Tunnel is the Melbourne airport link which would run via Metro Tunnel. This seems to have been put on hold for now which is a shame.
Geelong Fast Rail (What a joke) has been shelved, GOOD. MM2 will not be built. The Government's focus has been on Level Crossing removals and the SRL. As a result loads of spend and the rail network has hardly moved.
@@TransportVlog They could have it built within 4 to 5 years if they really wanted to. Broad gauge freight infrastructure exists from Albion to Jacana, and is mainly unused. What the State Government could do is to rebuild the the existing broad gauge trackbed and build an extra BG track from Albion, to save costs. And route it into the PTV Transit hub to avoid negotiating with the Airport. but no they insist in acquiring footpaths and building massive flyovers which adds massively to costs.
Sydney includes the Central Coast in its population figures - where as Melbourne does NOT include Geelong (despite being closer and having higher frequency of trains). So it has had more population for some time
Hi Matt, that's interesting! Personally I wouldn't include the Central Coast. That just doesn't seem like Sydney to me!
It was very handy if I were eating in the lower food court and needed to catch a tram on Latrobe St. especially handy during Melbourne’s famous extreme weather events☔️🌧️🌦️☀️🥵
Yes absolutely! - 4 seasons in one day! - Luckily I had great weather when I was there!
Oh ouch, that hurt.
Will there be a connection between Arden and North Melbourne stations?
Doesn't appear to be. It's close but not that close. Although I wouldn't be surprised if a quick bus route between the two is made
Hi Simon, Unfortunately no! The stations are too far apart for a direct connection. I just checked now, and according to Google Maps, it will be about a 10 minute walk between stations.
I just want to know, how will this improve the Pakenham line? It probably won't.
It should reduce journey times, as I reckon the Metro Tunnel route via Anzac will be quicker and more reliable than the current route from South Yarra to the CBD. And you already have the lovely new HCMT trains and in future, the ETCS signalling system will also allow more trains to run.
@@TransportVlog the High Capacity trains is very nice I must say if you can get a seat. It's still choca block during peak times due to trains running every 20 minutes and no one jumps off untill after Dandenong since the areas after Dandenong are growing fast. Metro needs to run trains more oftern or express trains to Dandenong and then stop all stations to Pakenham.
Just FYI, none of your onscreen links showed up for me, I'm viewing on mobile. Not sure if it's a problem on my end.
By the way, great video! The USA could learn from projects like this.
Hi Jacob, yes that sometimes happen, especially on mobile and on Smart TVs as well! The links to all those videos are in the description, and most appear at the end of the video as well. Great to hear from someone in the USA!
I have been to the Melbourne Sexual Health Centre & I’m happy to advise that my chlamydia has all cleared up. Thanks for asking.
That's lovely to hear! Thanks for sharing 😉😜
Hi, Do you know if there will be any pedestrianisation of Grattan St itself? There are constant movement of students and staff across the current Grattan St construction site everyday due to it forming a border between the main campus and the Faculties of Business, and Economics, Law and Education on the Southern side. Such a shame if they returned that street to vehicles without making it easier for pedestrians to cross.
There will be a few more zebra crossings and a halving of traffic lanes which will make it easier to cross. A small linear park and winding pathway will be built on the north side of the street with a lot of trees planted to make a mini urban forest
My understanding is that there will be a single lane for traffic in each direction, and this will be primarily to access the uni buildings and local streets. Pedestrians and cyclists will have separate paths, and there will be several pedestrian crossings, so I reckon traffic speeds will be slow.
@@drunkill Thanks for sharing that. I reckon it will become more of an access road, with low traffic speeds and plenty of crossings.
@@TransportVlog yep, sadly it cannot be fully pedestrianised due to the underground carpark underneath University Square.
Fantastic video, thank you Paul. Sad to see that while the new tunnel is still due to be opened in 2025 the grafitti vandals are already there. Cheers from Europe, Rick
Hi Rick, good to hear from a European viewer! Yes the graffiti is quite bad for something so new! It's a real shame.
Why are the platforms 10-car long when the HCMT trains are only 7 cars long???
Hi Petit, it's to allow for longer trains in the future. Unlike surface level stations, its virtually impossible to extend the platforms of underground stations after they are built, so its common practice these days to built longer platforms for future capacity. the HCMT have been designed to allow an extra 3 cars to be added in the future if necessary. Hope this answers your question!
Since there Screen Doors in the Metro Tunnel? Does a Metro Run in the Metro Tunnel in Automated Like Sydney Metro?
My understanding is the new trains have been built with the capability of being automated but there is no plans to do so.
No, but the High Capacity Metro Trains which are already in service and will be the only trains in this new tunnel in the future will be using automatic stopping at platforms to align with the platform screen doors.
In the future the entire line could probably be replaced with automated trains but that's a long way off given this tunnel connects the Pakenham & Cranbourne lines (which will be extended to Clyde eventually) and go all the way out to Sunbury, it'd be close to 35 other stations needing to be upgraded for automatic operations in the future.
So it is possible, but unlikely that this becomes driverless, perhaps in a few decades time.
Hi Ethan, @drunkill answered this really well, so not much to add. On the London Underground, quite a few lines now have Automatic Train Control, but the drivers remain to close the doors and deal with any emergency situations, so I would suspect that would be the most likely option in Melbourne, but this would still be a few years away.
Let's hope Central gets the renovation it badly needs after this project is finished.
Melbourne central?
MC is alright. It still feels sufficiently modern. Flinders street station, on the other hand…
With what money. Doesn’t anyone watch the news and Dans overspending????
It seems ok to me, a pretty functional station and it will get an extra escalator
Melton has been part of Melbourne officially for at least decade and a half, it’s just a lot of people didn’t know it.
Thanks for that Helen
its a beautiful as moscows
I wanted to mention as a RMH employee that the MRI machines had to be moved from lvl 1 due to the vibrations of the tunnel, up to the redeveloped floor on lvl 9. As far away from the tunnel as possible!
Thats interesting Max! I guess there would have been lots of vibrations when the TBMs were boring the tunnels. It would be interesting to know if there are any vibrations once trains start running.
Apparently parkville will also partially serve the children’s hospital next to the royal women’s hospital
Yes it's not too far. Probably 2 or 3 stops on a tram.
In further good news they are dismantling the crane from the site between A'Beckett and Lt Lonsdale St. The crane is right outside my apartment window and I'm sure not going to miss the noise or 7 a.m. wake up calls of the massive engine rumbling in the morning.
I'm sure you're very pleased to hear that Raymond! Enjoy some quiet mornings!
Won't this new ŕoute be used as a çity passover? Not that I don't like it, but it is interesting to think about.
I guess it will allow people to cross from one side of Melbourne to the other if they want to.
tbh i think the platform entrances would be better as more low key stairways like in london, but ah well it is what it is
personally, I think Town Hall should be called Federation Square station.
Great video. The sheer stupidity of calling a station a totally different name that occupies almost right angles and is connected to any existing station boggles the mind.
I believe also that at one point they were considering calling Arden St Station North Melbourne because that's where it is, but that would have involved renaming North Melbourne Station West Melbourne, which is also where that is. The confusion that would have ensued as a result, not to mention the cost, put paid to the idea, which is probably just as well.
@@philroberts7238I can understand Arden St. It is separate by some distance. But State Library? Anywhere else in the world an interconnected interchange station like that would be named the same to avoid confusion. It’s barely a ‘new’ station more so than an expansion.
There are pros and cons of same name versus different names for nearby stations. These are explained well in this article -wongm.com/2017/12/connecting-melbourne-central-flinders-street-station-melbourne-metro/. - Its towards the end.
I’m dropping a comment to help you with the algorithm, but the changes this is gonna bring for the Pakenham/Cranbourne line fills me with such dread about the probably extra 20 minutes each way for my already 2 hour daily commute. :’(
I don't this video needs any help from the TH-cam algorithm! Its already in the top 10 most viewed videos on my channel! What is your commute and if you work in the CBD, could you use a different station to avoid extra changes?
All tracks were laid by the end of march, so just as you were there filming it
That was good timing!
Dan Andrews legacy, an actual good transport rail system and removing rail crossings
Yes the debt we’ll live with for a long time and that has now seen projects canceled or delayed (same thing) because we’re out of money.
Yes it's good to see the level crossing's going. I'm amazed that Melbourne has so many of them!
@@xr6lad we will always have debt. its either we do nothing and have debt or do things and still have debt, but something to show for that debt
Not really. Still nowhere near Sydney's and we have fallen behind Perth. All that spend and apart from the MM1 the Metro Rail Network has hardly moved.
Now that Melton is officially apart of Melbourne they can continue the train and tunnels to Melton? Please take that traffic off the freeway please 🙏
That would be expensive, but I believe Melton does already have a rail link
About 30 years ago I evacuated from a train in the Loop between Parliament and Museum. Something happened (can’t remember if it was power or signals) but every train in that tunnel was stuck. So the driver opened the doors and we had to jump down and walk track side to Museum station. It was peak hour. And the freaky thing was you could still hear trains running in the adjacent tunnels. Not sure they’d allow that today as there was no walk way level with the door. People did help others down but not sure about the elderly or disabled.
Thanks for sharing that! I think these days that would be a very last resort!
why is it called state library and town hall, when State library is basically part of Melbourne Central and Town Hall part of Flinders Street Respectively
I'm not quite sure. There are pros and cons of giving nearby stations different names vs the same name, and I've seen examples of both in various other cities around the world.
Grey and red for Arden because of the industrial area
Blue for parkville because of the hospitals near by
Green for ANZAC because of the shrine and surrounding parks
Yes that's right!
You might know : under 30,40 storey office buildings, how can they burrow underground train tunnel without building piers/foundation in the way ?!
I think they with burrow below them or go around them. In the CBD, the tunnels go under Swanston Street and that's it's probably for that exact reason! In Sydney, the metro tunnels also run under streets rather than buildings as much as possible within the CBD area.
Uggg, Sydneysiders. A’Beckett St pronounced Ahbeckett not Aybeckett. Bouverie St = Boovery.
Excellent overview of the new line/stations.
Thanks for that! I'll remember those pronunciations for next time! In Sydney, we have A'Beckett's creek, so I just assumed it was pronounced the same way! Glad you enjoyed this video.
As watch all this construction I wonder if the circular lines should have taken priority since the construction in the center will draw ever more people there not exactly promoting decentralization...
It's a tricky one, as part of the reason for Metro Tunnel is to increase capacity within the CBD area, as its already pretty stretched.
@@TransportVlog Yeah, exactly, further inducing demand... We need to pull people AWAY from the CBD and create attractiv alternatives alogn the/a outer circle line. It's vital! All good urban rail/metro systems have highly functional circular lines.
Nice video and good to see Australia's two largest cities getting modern transport. The argument of who is the bigger city is predictable and tiresome. I see Sydney constrained for the next 3 to 5 years whilst infrastructure and housing shortages are rectified.
Glad you enjoyed it! Having come from London, which was so much bigger than any other UK city, I think its wonderful to have the largest 2 cities being around the same size. Sydney will struggle to get bigger in the longer term due to the surrounding national parks and coastlines.
The state Library station platforms look a lot like many on the Moscow metro and other Ex-soviet metros
That's interesting! Not been to any of those metros, but its an interesting comparison
Bigger isn't always better Paul. Over crowded cities are not the best cities.
Yes I'm inclined to agree. Once of the reasons I left London was because it had become so busy and populated, and Sydney is starting to get like that too. However, public transport is much more successful in densely populated cities, and for me, it means that I don't need to own a car (which I do like!).