The Dark Side of Family Vlogging
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- Internet Analysis: Family Vloggers Pt. 2. Let's talk about privacy - or the lack thereof- in daily vlogging. Are parents exploiting their children for views and money? Time stamps below!
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family vlogger parents 2:13
parents open themselves up to being judged on their parenting 2:28
the appeal of family vlogging…
working from home, being with your family more often, etc - 3:03
vlogging puts stress on relationships 3:48
DaddyOFive / bad family vlogs 4:48
the privacy and safety of children on youtube 6:00
the threat of creeps. is it naive to assume your audience is watching without bad intent? 8:00
vloggers monetize their life and relationships / the pressure to film constantly 10:58
if your kids didn’t want to vlog anymore, would you stop? 13:35
would your channel be successful without the kids? 14:41
children bearing financial responsibility /relying on them to make money 15:49
are these kids like child actors? 16:08
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This couple from Japan closed their channel when they started planning a family because they didn’t want to be family vloggers and expose their future kids to the whole internet. I have a lot of respect for them for doing that.
Texas in Tokyo? I adored them, they were the cutest couple, and I thought that was a great decision.
AliceRoared This reminds me of an spanish-japanese couple whose channel is called Nekojitablog and they make really amazing videos about life in Japan and being a bicultural couple. They have a son and although they make videos about how is parenting in japan for example they have never exposed their son on camera/social media for security and privacy reasons. I think they made a really great decision.
respect
which couple?
@@edie2744 Texan in Japan, I believe.
Demonetization of all family vlogs featuring kids under 13 would change a lot of crap.
Michelle Callahan and no sponsorships too
Yes
I agree.
Amen
Not really but okay
id be so pissed if i was having a bad day and my mom or dad came in with a camera in my face asking me whats wrong. it would make it seem as if they dont even care about my problems, they just care about broadcasting it.
i think family vlogging is very...... dehumanizing.
this is really disgusting to see. i noticed many family channels do that. or they use something there child is going through for views.
Dehumanizing is just the right word
*cough* jesssfam *cough*
You're absolutely right. It is. Ultimate disgrace.
Right? I love mom vlogs and stuff like that, and I think it's sweet if they show their kids once in a while, playing, doing their things. BUT, when the WHOLE channel it's about their kids, living their everyday life...it's just so weird. Can you imagine? Waking up, your mom filming you having breakfast, going to school, brushing your teeth. A lot of these videos also have parents giving their kids "the talk", or explaining personal things, documenting when kids are upset. It feels SO disconnected. Your kid is crying, upset? just film it instead of asking what's wrong!! I'm-.
I literally get embarrassed if my FRIENDS post a bad picture of me so I can’t even imagine my PARENTS filming me everyday to put on TH-cam for random people to see
Lololol I feel u
I grew up with my family taking little to no photos of me/us siblings, only very, very sparingly. I used to think of it as somehow "wrong" I guess, particularly compared to the accounts of friends. But I dont think there was any neglect in it though, much as it may sound. I'm much happier had that be the way in my family's past than the other end of the spectrum. If I were a young teen now, I would not want even any of my photos on my parents' facebooks, even if their account privacy settings were up to speed to keep randos at bay.
At that point your parents are literally disgusting people who exploit you.
The kid who was crying and screamed "I swear to God I didn't do that" made my heart sink. I'm legitimately on the verge of tears, that poor child
Same, I'm crying :(
The parents on the Daddyofive channel aren’t parents, they’re monsters and a menace to society and tbh should both be in jail for what they did to their children
Yeah... He sounded so worried!
Saaame! I didn’t know about those and It made me feel soo sad
@Alisonchains13 He lives with his mother now. Also, I watched videos on the family (not *by* the family!) made by other youtubers who called them out / informed the public on what dangerous things were going on in this family. And after seeing these videos I once woke up, half dreaming, half remembering (having intrusive thought, really) about the abuse those kids had to go through and for a moment I didn't believe the whole thing was real because I had such a hard time stomaching it that it was.
I always wonder how influencer families explain internet safety to their kids
esto pesto they obviously shirked it themselves
Answer: they don't.
Imagine when the kids go to school and they have an assembly about Internet safety, which a lot of schools do, and they are like “but my family has a vlog channel!” You know?
@@user-kf5lt6nk1q Really? All the ones that I've watched seem to go to normal school.
They probably don’t thats the scary part:/
“was anyone traumatized?”
“i don’t know what that word means but no”
literally all you need to know about children giving “consent” to be filmed for the whole world
a parent holding a camera in front of a child and asking if they’ve been traumatized is just straight up psychological abuse.
but what else do we expect from do5.
if a child doesn't know what that word means, it means he/she didn't consent for that.
Yup
If you ever have children, I think you're going to be a great mom.
Mila I couldn’t agree more I would love to have her as a mom 😭
Same!
Lol, you have no idea what kind of mom she would be.
Honey Lou Lou That’s why they said, “I think...”. How do you take a sweet, positive comment, and then do the most?
We float above it all Why do people always have to make things a, “today’s issue”? There have ALWAYS been uneducated parents, that’s nothing new.
The only TH-cam family vlog I watch is Jenna Marbles and her dogs
Nah. Jenna's dogs are garbage. It's all about Jacksfilms' dogs! They're the best family vlog. ;)
Love this comment
Eddie Pollau me too!
Eddie Pollau HhHHELLllL YEeeaaH
Cermet definitely has severe emotional trauma
You should talk about the “teen girl” side of family vlogging. Once there girls get older they immediately start talking about them going through puberty which I understand can be very helpful to other girls watching, but as 14 year old I would never in a million years want to go shopping for period supplies and have my mom film it for millions of people to see and then go to school the next day. I just can’t imagine that all these other girls actually want to be talking about it either
totally agree! also there have been a lot of videos about teens and tweens shopping for bras and other undergarments - i would feel so embarrassed if my mum filmed me shopping for bras and put it on youtube.
Not to mention just feeling insecure about your looks at that age & having tons of randos commenting on your appearance. Enough nasty comments you got yourself a complex
This is exactly why I stopped following ‘the family fizz’ I can’t remember the name?!? But at first they were really cute but I started noticing the blatant exploitation of those girls it started disgusting me.
12 A - The Famiky Fizz mother does that! It is totally despicable! Vlogging about how her 12 year old daughter had started her periods! How low can you get?!?!
Peaches And Cream. Omg I always felt like I was the only one weirded out by their family. The children are so involved in the channel which yea it’s nice they all enjoy it but it seems they never have time to just be children and have friends. The parents seems so childish, so happy all the time like that’s not real life, there’s no way people are that happy all the time
That DaddyOFive video always gives me anxiety. As a survivor of that kind of abuse (minus the video camera) it made me cry the first few times I saw it. Probably why I dont watch family vloggers.
@@tiffanyferg read the comments section on any article about how the US is currently treating immigrant children, you won't be surprisedanymore. Humans are evil.
Sorry for the late reply, I had push notifications off on the TH-cam app and apparently that turns off all reply notifications inside the app as well. 😑
Honestly I had panic attacks and almost vomited from how bad that triggered me. I can't watch them, I'm so glad they're gone and the kids are okay
that video she showed was so scary and that was just for money and views...
same here, the first time I saw it I had to walk away and calm down it triggered me so badly 😔 I can unfortunately believe that children get abused in this way, but to film it, profit off of it, have people cheer it on...it makes me sick
Yes I always had social anxiety and any kind of pranks trigger me I would be very uncomfortable to say the least
those dadyofive parents asking "were you traumatized?" was so disturbing. most abuse victims won't admit to their abusers that they've been hurt, let alone small children to their own parents. what else are they supposed to say? the parents could have told them to say no before they started filming, anyways.
That “no” from the kid isn’t even a valid statement because he literally said in the video he didn’t know what “traumatized” means.
@@no.context they told him to say that likely
As a Developmental Psychologist, thank you so much for bringing awareness to this issue. Most people don’t realize this but there will be studies about the negative effects of daily vlogging children who don’t know any better and who can’t give consent. Asking a 5 year old child if he/she wants to be on camera is useless. A child can’t give informed consent, period! We need specific laws for this. Nothing will change until it is regulated. Easy money will always speak louder: just point the camera at the cute kid and clickbait the shit out of the kid getting hurt, having a bad grade, getting sick, fighting with a friend or having a crush. That way, mommy and daddy can quit their jobs and do this every single day. Cut to some of the kids feeling so obviously awkward and pressured by the parents to be on camera and others constantly trying to outshine their siblings and amping up the drama because the parents encourage it and reward it. More than copyright regulations, TH-cam needs to do something about this. Why are we waiting 10 or 15 years to see the obvious negative effects of exploiting a child’s privacy, family structure, childhood and sense of self?
Or putting them in danger, giving predators endless footage and their location every day?
Thank you, Tiffany!
I totally agree. And I would take the risk to say that parents who cannot realize how harmful this is to their children (or don't want to see it) make probably other serious mistakes in parenting. At least, not the children's interests are at first place, in general.
Agreed. I'm not a psychologist, but I just cannot believe that a child can develop a healthy mental state when growing up with a camera in their face. Even small children can act, and feeling the pressure to do so on a daily basis in my opinion compeletly prevents a child from experiencing the world in an authentic way. The parents don't even have to tell them to do so, as far as I know children often feel the need to behave as they think the parents want them to. And they may even think it's fun, but it's manipulating them away from their true feelings, and that's never a good thing.
j.alexandria ' girl this is about a handful of people, a very small percentage of the population family vlogs ??? why are you projecting ideas onto smth that has nothing to do with middle class white people or the entire population?
Mama preach xoxo
not in the field, though I'd very much like to take some classes in the coming year or so, but you totally put how I was feeling into words. I can't imagine not realizing that a child has no way of understanding what they're doing and being a part of, let alone any of the more sinister implications...thinking about so many kids just having to one day face and process all of this...ugh
We have so many former child actors/celebrities who talk about how profoundly it affected their lives, and I'm sure we'll see the same thing happen with many of these family vlogger children. No matter how innocent and wholesome a family's intentions are, no matter how much the children might enjoy these lifestyles even, it's undeniable that being exposed to an audience of hundreds of thousands or even millions would have a significant impact on anyone's life, let alone a small child. It's a lot.
Lol really, child celebrities are part of satanic families and get sexually abused as well as in others ways, family vlogs aren't even close to that.
@@Jv9569 since you don't seem to know this I'll just tell you but there are blogs out there filled with "sexy" pictures of these vloggers kids. These kids can still be exploited sexually.
@@Jv9569 I'm not claiming that every child celebrity and family vlogger kid has the same experience, just that it makes sense to me that there are some parallels between more established modes of child fame and more contemporary and emerging modes of child fame. And of course sadly all types of abuse can happen to different kids in all types of different situations, I'm not trying to imply that all exposure to lifestyles and experiences like this are tantamount to, or directly comparable with, specific forms of abuse, but I do believe that we have a responsibility to question the way these things may impact children in general, and the harm and exploitation that is possible whether on the extreme end of the spectrum or not.
It's definitely a lot but it's a very different lifestyle than a child star who can't go to a normal school and has to go on a set to literally work everyday. A mom filming her kids football game, where he is just out being a normal kid with friends, isn't really the same as a kid who has to be on set from 6 am - 10 pm and has to walk red carpets, gets followed by paparazzi, and more.
@@flashGordon477 I totally get you, I meant more that there are parallels in different types of lifestyles that expose children to fame, not that these experiences are necessarily directly comparable to each other. Sorry, it maybe wasn't worded so well.
I feel like this is classic narcissism. Narcissistic parents live vicariously through their kids, and see their kids as an extension of themselves not as their own individual people- hence why they feel the right to violate their privacy and put their lives on TH-cam and Instagram when the kids are not able to consent to that. I am a mother of five, and I even sometimes go back and forth about what I post on my own personal Facebook about them, which is only accessible to my family and friends. Sometimes stuff that may seem cute to me now I realize later when my kids are able to understand may not appreciate being put online. I literally can’t imagine putting their entire lives online against their wills, and making money for myself off of it, not to mention the fact that lots of family vloggers now do scripted stuff, so the kids are literally acting and working for free with nobody checking up on labour laws. I don’t think most of these family vloggers have bad intentions and that’s why there needs to be labour laws that apply to TH-cam kids.
Shaun Wheeler But we also need to be honest about the money. Some of these TH-camrs are making millions. This isn’t a little amt of money, this is sometimes about a LOT of money!! Not defending these families but so many kids, tweens, teens and yes many many adults do not have a clue abt the finance situation with TH-cam. I think a decent amt of society really thinks its just a fun platform and are extremely naive to the commercialization, business, money involved!
I’m so happy you mentioned that parents should teach their kids that it is okay to not hug someone!! I can’t stand those people that force their children to hug others, even family members. The child should NOT have to hug someone if they don’t want to! Not too many speak of that, sadly,
Right!! I’ve always told kids that it’s ok to be shy, or to decline affection. Forced affection is how a lot of predators groom children
Right! My dad won’t let me hug his mom as I HATE her and she’s done bad things to us
Dang I wish this wasn't the case with my parents, cause I am forced to give hugs even when I don't wanna, and they just get offended or look at me as a mean girl. There is some days I want to hug, and some days I don't. I really don't get that, it's still our choice if we want to give affection. FAMILY OR NOT! Like yesterday, I was literally trying to get to the oven to take out food, and I was forced so tightly into a hug, that I was trying to resist it and when I didn't seem affected positively by it, they just get mad. Like I didn't want to get hugged at the TIME, I was trying to do something else! Like WHYY? It does not mean I am being disrespectful or mean to you, I was just doing something else, and focusing on that! I didn't want a hug, even tho I appreciate it but still... when are us teenagers actually going to practice having our own opinions and simple choices without being judged or be gaslighted so much?
Definitely!! I'm autistic and touch averse and my mom always wants to hug me, and when I say no she gets so passive agressive, it's awful
i immediately thought of the real christopher robin while watching this. he loved the attention he was getting until he got teased in boarding school and grew to hate the books about him. he didn’t like his dad and even thought that his dad created a “dream son” though the books. in fact, he said his father "had got where he was by climbing on my infant shoulders, that he had filched from me my good name and had left me with nothing but the empty fame of being his son."
it’s not the same as this, but it’s an interesting one. i also think of the ashley twins, who were stars from such a young age. it’s an interesting thing to think about. i hope the best for these kids.
Rockinashy - Very interesting info! Many thanks for sharing 💕
Rockinashy your comment reminds me of the beginning of Gone Girl with Amazing Amy 😮 I know it’s a book but it still highlights the effect parents have on their kids especially in their young age....
Jo-Ann Bui i thought about Amazing Amy too! I think they got inspired by this story
In addition there was the kid who played anakin in the Phantom Menace who got bullied incessantly after that role. We should be careful and protect our children from fame. My mom scrapbooked the memories of my childhood but the thing is, they were never shown to the masses, only to close friends and family. It was a way to preserve those memories but protect us from the spotlight. And photos were always taken of momentous occasions and not of everyday life. Unless we did a cool project for school or something but there were never pictures of us crying or being sent to our rooms or anything that may have been considered questionable. Even when pictures started to be uploaded to Facebook, they were still only of events our family thought were important to remember. Even then, the images were never publicized. Our safety was always at the forefront of my parents’ minds
Rockinashy, your analogy to the real Christopher Robin is an apt one.
I inwardly cringe whenever I find out a family vlogger parent has quit their job to focus on TH-cam.
Ikr
I mean i guess thats a normal reaction, maybe even a little jealousy because youtubers can make bankkkkk
Trevor Strain at the expense of their kids.
Istolethecatspjs - And just imagine what their kids will think of them when they are older - that their parents quit their jobs to make money off the backs of their own kids!
Clearly you have no idea how much time goes into making a single TH-cam video then. It IS a full time job if you look at the definition of what a full time job entails. If you can make money off of it to support your family, why not just focus on that? Most bigger channels are making more money from ad revenue then they are in their “traditional” day job anyways. 🤷🏼♀️
Yasss! I watched my first family vlog one a week ago and I was mortified! It was a family explaining to the little girl about them still loving her when her new sister is born. The poor 5 year old ended up crying & didn’t even get the respect from her parents NOT TO FILM IT. Why are people filming serious conversations and posting it on the internet. There are some conversations and moments that should never be broadcasted.
I watched that as well! The channel is ‘Col&Sav’
This is definitely not healthy for children
Home isn’t their safe space
They are always watched
What does this teach them?
the worst part about it is that you never know who watches these videos. the fact that ALL FAMILY CHANNELS upload THERE CHILD'S BIRTH VIDEO onto TH-cam for "EVERYONE TO SEE" is a legitimate disgrace. I surely know why Family channels do that because uploading birth videos of your child can get the most viewing and money off TH-cam. That's all they care about. When will family channels start thinking over there child's safety? As they get older they will realize that a child itself was being harassed by strangers on the comments, watched by millions of people, birth video seen by millions of people, A kids whole live was put out there for the world to see.
This is exactly what I was thinking. With a camera in your face and every moment filmed for the audience, the home would not seem a safe, nurturing, special place for a child.
As someone who hates taking pictures (i don't take selfies and there are only really few pictures of me, especially ones with my face) that's deeply disturbing. I hate seeing my face on pictures and in videos and I hate hearing my recorded voice, if my parents would put up any pictures/videos on the internet I would definitely force them to take them down. I wouldn't even allow it if it was like a privat facebook group, I just don't want to have anything of me on the internet.
This reminds me of Texan in Tokyo. They were a blogging couple in Japan that vlogged about their lives in Japan, the wife was American and the husband Japanese etc. But one day they uploaded a video saying they were quitting TH-cam and their reasoning behind it had a lot to do with wanting to someday start a family and they were VERY anti family vlogging. They were very against putting children in videos. This was a few years ago before family vlogging was just starting I believe.
THERE IS A GOD!!
Bless up to those parents.
Yes! I was thinking of them too. I actually really respected them for that.
Ah I remember them. They were a sweet couple with good morals.
Nekojitablog is a japanese/spanish couple living in Japan that make videos about Japan's culture and it's very interesting, their life get mixed in the videos, but the last year they had a baby and he never appears in the videos, also they have never showed the baby's face in internet. I think Japanese culture it's better at respecting privacy.
I would argue that these kids aren't even really free to say that they don't want to be filmed, because when you're a kid you see your parents as perfect people who can do no wrong. You trust them completely, and you don't want to disappoint them. The DaddyOFive clip where they ask their kids "Do you think we've been abusing you?" is a perfect example of this, because the kids heavily rely (or relied) on their parents to provide for them and they still love and trust their parents, so they aren't really in a position where they can say "Yes, you're abusive." Not to mention, they would be risking even worse abuse if they spoke up, especially if they had the guts to say it on camera. Unfortunately in those situations, it's really up to the viewers and TH-cam to step in and put an end to it.
Agree 100%
I agree. I think it is also difficult for children to pin point being abused because their family is their point of reference to what is normal until they grow up and experience other people's family dynamics and realize their childhood wasn't the healthiest.
As a now 21 year old who was abused physically until 12 and mentally until I moved out a year ago, we don’t keep silent out of love. I saw my mother as a monster the moment I realized that no other child was treated this way. And when I realized out of the 6 kids that she had, only 2 of us were being abused and neglected. I was 9 years old. We keep quiet out of fear that when we say ‘I hate my mom’, we’ll get the same disgusted response as always: ‘How can you say that about your mother? You know that you owe your life to her?’ Maybe kids younger than 9 really do still love their abusive parent because of what you said. I just wish I had kept that naivety. Knowing that they don’t love you and don’t give a shit about how you turn out is worse than deluding yourself into thinking that they still have an ounce of love or mercy in their dead hearts.
@@addiesrambles7871 I'm really sorry you went through that, no child deserves to abused or neglected. That's another layer of complexity that I didn't even think about, but you're totally right. If a kid says that they hate their mom, the automatic reaction is to think that the kid is ungrateful and dramatic. So if a kid on TH-cam says it, that disgusted response would be multiplied dramatically, especially if the parents (who are the ones editing the videos usually) choose to only show the good, happy moments. So even if they are brave enough to talk about what really happened off camera, they run the risk of being gaslighted by thousands, or even millions of people.
MissInformed10 I know that I’m probably half the person I could’ve been if I had any stability or support. It’s okay, I haven’t learned to accept that it was beyond my control but I hope to get there someday.
There is gonna be SO many posts from these kids on r/raisedbynarcissists in 10 years
ohohohooh yes
Reddit might not even be a thing
@@peeplocilo9018 the kids who were raised like this 10 years from now posted so much Reddit just died from all the lag of the posts so I guess your right 😂
Im sorry but what does narcissists mean
i had a massive argument with my sister who wants to start a youtube channel with my nephew, her son, who’s 3 years old. all she sees is the financial possibilities and the fact that she thinks it’s gonna be all innocent and stuff. but yeah we had a massive debate about it, i couldn’t exactly get my point across how i wanted to then i found this video and you said everything i wanted to lol. i’m gonna send this to her and hope she can understand. at the end of the day it’s her kid so she can make that decision but she really doesn’t understand the dangers of the internet
Idara U did she end up doing the channel?
Chances are even if she started she wouldn’t be successful because it’s super saturated. Hope for her sons sake she didn’t.
So how was it? Did she get the jist of your point???? Just checkin
What happened?
Also- this Instagram mom posted a picture of her kid with a long rant about how he always gets less likes than her other kids which makes her sad but it was so strange and like ????? She basically said her kid should feel insecure because he wasn’t getting likes ...... I don’t know. Weird shit.
i was totally going to comment about that! i think her name was katie bower. she got a ton of backlash so turned the comments off now but it was so weird. she was like oh i tell him what the comments are and i'm worried he'll get upset over the lack of likes...like why let your child view your instagram profile anyway (i think he's only like 6)? its like a weird way to say 'this is my least favourite child because strangers on the internet don't like the photos i post of him as much', which is gross.
Yeah I first heard of her this week! Also saw that she did not realize the magnitude of 9-11 and how many people actually died until this year or last year. And it’s not like she is not from the US. So it’s a big yikes from me.
WTF is all I have to say
I read about that woman a few months ago. She openly admitted that she had no idea that people died during 9/11 and said she was unaware "that people were actually in the buildings". Her excuse was that she was in college and played two sports. I was four years old (and granted I lived across the river from the towers), but even I knew what happened - I have friends who lost both parents, know plenty of people who lost siblings, friends, and of course there are thousands of people who have been affected by 9/11 related cancers. Her entire post was about her and her incredible ignorance, so that just goes to show you what kind of person she is. 3000 people died, the markets closed, travel ceased worldwide. I mean, how ignorant could she have been; there is no excuse. There is an article on DailyMail about her (because of course she turned off the comments on her original post when people began to point out how incredibly offensive it is to treat such a major tragedy like that). I know this is unrelated to this video (which is incredible btw), but I had to say something because she seems like such a repugnant person to me.
Emily Rule Emily Rule I relate to this so much! I am a few years older than you, as I was 6 on 9/11 and I’m also across the river, inland a bit. Even then I got the magnitude of it all, a father of a kid in my grade survived the attacks but shortly died after due to injuries sustained. Maybe it’s because we can relate to it on such a personal level, but I’ll never understand people like her who just never will get it. I’d never take any advice from a person who cannot comprehend the magnitude of a national (international too) tragedy that still affects us all to this day.
What scares me about the privacy issues surrounding family vlogging is how *much* of their children's lives are public record. Their daily schedule, where they like to play, their interests, who they spend time with, so much information that a predator with little work, can know the exact location of these kids. I think about the number of strangers, who if they *really* wanted to, could do a minimal amount of research and kidnap these children. Sure, their parents may not overtly say which school they go to or mention their neighborhood title, but maybe they mention which city they live by or the name of a town nearby. These predators can know which parks these parents frequent, which Starbucks they go to every day, can memorize their entire daily routine, to eventually find the perfect time to snatch their child up. THAT scares the shit out of me.
Exactly. Like if the predator already lives in that area or been to that area they will recognize the places. Not to mention if the parents are not tech savvy, they might have their Geo tags in pictures and IP address just out in the open for any body to see. Very scary stuff to think about, but you have to as a parent to protect you children. That's job number 1. And I really worry for these children.
This is soooooo true! With a few minutes of googling it's easy to find these families' home addresses!!!!! Esp families that use their last names in their content. With a last name, it's just so easy to find people's residences these days. It's like they don't even try to hide it....
agreed! i've actually thought for a while that i'm surprised none of them have been kidnapped yet. especially in the UK where we have school uniforms with logos on them, and a lot of the time they don't make much of an effort to conceal where their kids go to school.
@@lunalove9395 that is absolutely terrifying. I hope those children stay safe.
these people are prioritizing attention on the internet over their children’s safety. i think it’s fine to post a picture of your kid every once in a while, but this constant posting and constant vlogging is creepy. the second you start profiting off your children in ANY WAY, you’ve gone wrong somewhere.
Don’t forget the family vlogging channel who lost their son and recorded their daughters grieving their brother
Ew did that really happen? That's really horrible
Vanice Icarus Yup. The channel is called Bratayley. They didn’t record their kids sobbing or anything but they recorded their kids tearing up about it, writing a letter “for him to read up in heaven”, going to a doctor appointment to check to see if they have the same heart condition that killed their brother, one of the girls saying she hadn’t eaten the entire day (a couple weeks after the death, she probably wasn’t eating because of immense grief), going through their brother’s things in his room, and going back to daily vlogging less than a month after his death.
You can see the grief in the girls’ eyes. The first few months after their brother’s death, the girls seemed to tear up easily, they were really quiet, and they rarely smiled or laughed. They were clearly not ready to continue vlogging.
They also uploaded the very last vlog with Caleb (the brother) in it and the title in the beginning said “the day before Caleb died”.
Just a very weird situation. I try not to judge them too much because everybody grieves in different ways but vlogging just a week or two after Caleb’s death seemed too soon.
Oh, and they live-streamed his memorial service, with the family and friends’ tearful speeches and everything. Thankfully they left out the kids’ speeches.
Sweetly Unicorn i agree with the vlogging right after Calebs death a bit weird but they live streamed his memorial service because a lot of people grew up watching them and their family and they felt their fans were like family. They don’t do daily vlogging anymore more like 1 vlog every week or so.
that’s so messed up.
That’s bizarre.
Oh God this hit home... My father runs a pretty popular blog, has been since I could remember. It's not a familly blog, but he did feature A LOT of my photos throughout the years. The older I got, the more uncomfortable I got, the more I refused and wouldn't let him take pictures of me at all. Having random people recognize him on the street and my as his child - I didn't want that. My entire childhood and pre teen years were online - and as a trans person, it became even more painful, having thousand, maybe millions of people, having seen you and have a feeling of knowing you in this phase of your life you so desperately would want to erase. Not only that, but being forcefully associated with this public figure who has publically bigoted views- it's shit. I can't imagine how much worse it would be for a child who grew up being the star of these daily vlogs.
Sorry you were exposed like that. It's just not fair. Wishing you a peaceful future.
@@littlebopeeps5852 you should make a video your story would b powerful
Leo A you should definitely write a book about that. maybe it’ll open peoples eyes to the dangers of broadcasting their children like that
When they asked if they were traumatized, it kind of put me off
My childhood was definitely traumatic, but if you had asked me, I would've had no clue. It did hurt me, but I never really understood what exactly being traumatized is. Ask these kids in the future, and I'm sure they'll say yes.
@Hannah H Yep, the parents basically scare them into thinking it's normal, and that if they do or say anything about it, something will happen
"How did it make you feel." Would have got a better answer.
a bit late but also: who would tell their abuser that what they´re doing hurt them? I would have been way too scared about punishment
I grew up in an abusive home with a narcissist mother.
The gaslighting makes you question if what your feeling is even real.
Welcome To Trench some it’s not even the fear but the fact that you think your family is the standard and don’t know that anything is wrong
Just imagine being an adult and knowing that your friends and coworkers can access videos of every single day of your childhood online, this just seems so bizarre!
This makes me wonder who is going to have the rights to those videos once the kids grow up? I can imagine this is going to lead to a lot of disputes between parents and kids, with the kids wanting the videos to be taken down because of privacy and the parents wanting to keep them up because they make money. The future sure is going to be interesting!
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or kids wanting part of the money the parents made using them as content ?!!
even the kids on family channels are all home schooled. like you seriously are trapping your child from the society? look at elle from the ace family, she is home schooled and she always looks depressed in every video because she never see's the reality, she doesn't get to play with kids her age because her parents "Austin and Catherine" trap her in there massive mansion, they trap her from living her childhood life. like i wish they could let there child live there best childhood experience, t's a disgrace. elle is only 2 years old and she's probably going through so much depression. It's so crazy to see that from a child so young.
Slyfox Fam is always exploiting their 11 year old daughter with videos about her period, or puberty or her in her bathing suit for the thumbnails. They’ve also made several videos recently where the title and thumbnail are about 11 year old Jaedyn wearing a baby bump out and about and to school. I have a 13 year old daughter and just the thought of her in those thumbnails and situations for literally ANYONE to see and with thousands or even millions of views makes me so sick. The whole family makes me feel ill🤢
they are clearly motivated by money. there is no way it never occurred to them that not everyone is watching innocently
Family Fizz have done this pregnancy challenge with their 13 year old also. It’s vile.
They also do “ Is my daughter talking to a boy 😱😱 “ videos that I just find very odd
When you got to the part about the 13 year old girl making doll videos then getting pressured by her mum I immediately thought of Venus Angelic. She starting making videos about being a "living doll", she has a doll-like face and enjoys wearing dolly makeup and clothes. She started getting views and her mum took control and pressured her more and more with the videos and going on talk shows. All she talked about was money and numbers and how Venus could support them. Turns out she was also physically and emotionally abusive and Venus managed to get away when she was 18 or so. She's now in her early 20's and lives in Japan (she's Swiss) and she's very messed up. Don't get me wrong, I do like her (more so now as she doesn't do the "living doll" thing anymore) but it's sad how much her mum and early internet fame messed her up.
I was so disgusted when one family, The Johnson Fam, filmed their dying grandfather. The poor old man was basically unconscious, and they felt it was cool to expose him to a bunch of strangers.
Never watched them again, but sure enough, later saw them using a miscarriage as a thumbnail. Beyond disgusting. And I don't believe it is to "help" others. It is for views and views are for dollars.
yep unethical and disgusting
I also remember they posted a video in the late summer of 2017 with a title alluding to their “house flooding,” like a day after the worst of Hurricane Harvey hit Houston. It was about a kid’s playhouse in their back yard. What a noble thing to do (obvious sarcasm), trying to piggyback off of legitimate devastation others had to endure. So terrible.
@@scoliosisqueen They are the worst.
Looked back at their thumbnails and they got a lot of views on their deceptive flood one, so did another! They specialize in clickbait. Just straight up money-grubbing liars. The way they exhibited a dying old man was terrible, and trying to get views from Hurricane Harvey was so them!
I stopped watching them a long time ago.. So much clickbait and they're boring
What the actual hell?
thank god someone is saying this... family vlogging is so messed up.
Some that I have seen is so cringy to me. It's kind of scary...:(
It IS messed up. It is unethical as well. These kids cannot give informed consent. What are the parents thinking?! Oh, let me guess... MONEY.
peanutpbj you NAILED IT.
I agree. You have to be 13 to sign up for TH-cam, but these TH-cam family channels main stars are kids way under 13. How does that make since? There were also some other things that happened no one really talks about and they got away with. These channels are huge still.. yikes
-Bratayley upload their sons memorial (he was barely 13 when he died btw)
-Britneyandbaby got so much hate, her relationship with the muscular dystrophy foundation was almost destroyed (her son also has a fatal illness). If that happened, the poor guy might not get help from them in the future, and it’s necessary for MD.
-Ace family and the break in
-The gymnastic Chanel’s Just ew.
Those are just some of them. I really can’t stand these people if I’m honest
Agreed. Its odd and just annoying. I mean, some people are recording the fricken BIRTHS of their babies. Like the camera is on minutes after the kid is born
Omg that clip of DaddyOFive made me sick, I'm so sad. That boy seems to have the same age that my brother and I can't imagine how he must feel going through all this abuse. I hope the kids are doing fine. And I love the video! I have never being aware of family vlogs before
The way these kids don’t get to chose if they get filmed from birth definitely reminds me of the Truman show
Yes
I saw a video of a family vlogger making their daughters do swimsuit try on hauls, which is just ... odd. There’s no need for that to be online
its kay was it the weiss life?
@@karlasal3551 yes but i didnt want to directly call them out by name
Sooo creepy. They know that what they are doing is for views. Shouldn't they know that that kind of clickbait is for pedophiles?
its kay That’s crossing the line big time!
100%
It’s almost like the Truman show- not only in that they are exploited by being recorded pretty much constantly without their consent/awareness of the situation but also the way in which their life and situations are manipulated by the parents and capitalised for revenue... and we all know how Truman turned out. I suspect many will have difficulties as an adult (especially those that are sexualised for money) and most likely a tumultuous relationship with their parents. :/
Ailish yes exactly like the Truman show!!
And don’t forget putting ads in!
YESSS
Monetization of the children > Psychological welfare of children.
Not just the children, also their spouses / relatives / friends who might be private individuals and not want to be made content out of at all.
"my tea is always cold by the time i get to drink it" ugh why is this me every time.. i eat and drink so slowly lol. your video is so well rounded and painfully peaceful. i wonder if or how often family vloggers address these sorts of concerns because they are valid and i can only imagine the responses, but i'm not one myself so i wonder if it'd even be the same.
im so glad u made this video, family vloggers make me so uncomfortable and i think its so unhealthy
Luke Alexander I don’t agree
@@WhitakersWay of couse u do youre one of the family vloggers 🙄
Luke Alexander Funny. I seem to be drawn to those channels. And the religious mormon/christian ones too. Weird. Not all, but the entertaining ones. I just cant stand all the other youtubers like Jake Paul and all of them.
I feel like too a certain extent it’s okay like featuring your kids in a video once a week but then I’d hate to have to get up and have a camera shoved in my face
@@WhitakersWay duh! You're one if them 🤦♀️
I would hate to feel forced all the time to film something
Wimsem - Tekenen & Knutselen kids aren’t forced. A lot of parents ask there kids if they want to be in a vlog and if the kids don’t want to vlog then they won’t vlog anymore.
@@sharedaccount4918 still. the kids know it is important. children are nor stupid and have a big inner voice that tells them it is "bad" to say no or not vlog
This is one of the main reasons why I eventually get turned off the idea of becoming a TH-camr lol. I have so many good ideas for a channel, but bearing with the pressure of having to upload content constantly? God bless these TH-camrs that can keep it together, but the work's not for someone like me. Peace ✌️
@@sharedaccount4918 that isn't true i have seen way too many family channels such as the ace family, there kids would be forced to vlog even when they aren't having it. i know because there kids never seem to be in the mood in there vlogs and the parents are the one's forcing them to be hyped up for the video. there kid in the video would be tired or not in the mood then the parents would be like "say this" "do this" "come on dance" "show me your smile". It's what they do and i see with with my own eyes because the ace family doesn't cut those parts out. it's really a disgrace to force your kids into getting views.
Tamara Zahran you still don’t know that for a fact but I don’t like the ace family anyways. And I didn’t say all but the families I watch are very considerate to their kids when vlogging.
My daughter asked for a TH-cam account, she's 10... I asked why she wanted one, and she responded with "you get money and get famous just for showing what you do and where you go to school and stuff". Family vloggers are not understanding the effects they cause to the younger generation as a whole. My children are my ultimate priority, I refuse to exploit them and it's my job to protect them. I think making money vlogging private moments blurs your line as a provider and a caregiver, it becomes all about the money.
imagine the bullying at school....:(
Prison Mike imagine the presidents son
Ladee Sekhon we love the president’s son lol go on tik tok
You can "ask" these questions but really, put together a panel for Vidcon. This could be a huge panel discussion.
For real though... this should be a panel discussion at vidcon... this practice is disgusting and will have long term negative effects on these kids.
I highly doubt this might happen at VidCon anytime soon, but if they do, bless.
@@weeaboobaby Never thought about it but for real, a panel at VidCon is the way to go and I don't think it's improbable to have one. What a lot of people don't know is that VidCon is not an event by TH-cam, but conceived by a couple of guys (Hank and John Green) and they're legitimately good guys who want to make a better world. I don't think it's theirs anymore, but it's not impossible.
Can you imagine being an adult going through life, meeting people at school and then work and always knowing they can just google your name and find so much personal stuff about you? That would be terrifying to me. It would make me feel so exposed and vulnerable that someone I just met can so easily know so much about me. And I know it might be similar to celebrities, but most of those are adults and chose that life and choose what they share with the world. And as we know, child stars suffer from this and more.
Also, celebrities exchange anonymity for an income at least. This imagined adult you speak of didn't make an income off his/her anonymity. The income went to his/her parents. It's a lose-lose once adulthood begins to set in.
AWFUL.
Ikr! A LOT of These kids will suffer serious mental health struggles due to exploitation. Its sick ad
I get especially freaked out when parents monetize their kids' disabilities this way. A lot of it is a giant pity party that portrays the kids as burdens.
Ill admit some TH-camrs seem to be makeing money off of that. But I have seen one in particular that seems like it is fully for educational purposes.
I'm a parent - and hell yeah, 'family' vloggers are totally exploiting their children. It's gross. And sad.
This NEEDS to be seen by more people
Roxana seriously. I feel like posting the link to this video on every family vlogger I know.
Send to tv stations as well. I always wonder about the safety of these kids in so many ways! As well, are these kids getting paid, legally protected, etc?
As well, they are learning a very skewed relationship skill. They are thinking life is a little fantasy world, with free stuff, videos in their face, entertainment value with actions, etc.
Liberty Pierce I definitely there will be long term consequences to family vlogging. No doubt some of the kids will end up suing parents down the road. Sadly the kinds of protections needed tend to lag behind new forms of entertainment. It really is pimping out ur kids.
think about how you might feel now as an adult, having your entire childhood (including embarrassing moments and sad times) as in EVERY single day of the year for lets say 10 years of your life (365 x 10 = 3,650) worth of online videos. THATS TERRIFYING.
@@user-fo6jj4tm9m SAME id literally kill my parents lol
It honestly kind of reminds me of the Truman Show, like these kids really have 0 concept about what being in a vlog actually means and then they'll grow up one day and realise their entire life was just entertainment for millions of people...
Emily like how upset and betrayed and may e even VIOLATED would u feel????? It’s so wrong :(
a few years from now these kids will be suing
As an adult you'd realize that it's how they made a career and made all that money which would be worth having a great childhood being able to be with the parents everyday and by that time no one will even remember you.
I’m a parent, I’ve created YT content for 6 years now and my content has shifted dramatically to ensure it’s moving away from being focused on my children. I absolutely agree with this wholeheartedly. So so good 👏
Ps. I’m definitely NOT a daily vlogger. It’s not sustainable, and it’s unhealthy.
Good to hear at least one parent has moved the direction of their channel away from their kids,I honestly can't believe the amount of parents who have their kids 'shocked face' or 'surprise face' in every thumbnail or showing their kids while extremely sick or going into surgery,what kid wants a camera in their face for them times?the UK based families are unbelievable,one in particular have put money from TH-cam over their kids wellbeing,as a parent myself,this completely shocks me.
When I was a kid (I'm 36, for reference), my dad had a camcorder, and took copious amounts of home video. Among this footage were situations that I personally find quite embarrassing, but my immediate family has been amusedly quoting back to me for decades. Because it's my family, I take it in stride; the evidence is limited to VHS cassettes and the digital transfers my dad made to his personal hard drive. In all honesty, the footage is pretty damn meme-able. When my now-wife saw them, she pretty much immediately added them to her lexicon of jokey terms of endearment for me. Thankfully, because I am a product of the 80s, I am able to rest safe in the knowledge that this embarrassing content will likely remain forever locked away on old media. For the children of these family vloggers, however, there will be no such assurance. I share your concern as to how this will impact them in the long term.
I grew up in the early 2000s before TH-cam was popular/even a thing and I have home videos on a digital camcorder. I’m happy to be able to view the home videos when I want, but no one else can, which makes me happy to think.
so happy you’ve been talking about this!! my parents were avid about getting home videos of my sister and i growing up but i cannot imagine if they posted them to a following of people. it makes me so uncomfy! especially after i recently saw the ace family made an instagram for their daughter literally the second she was born, these kids are so young that they have no control over this stuff and it feels exploitive.
grace davidson Ugh so this! My only hope is that since there are so many family vloggers, maybe a lot of these people will be forgotten.
The Ace family creep me out. I think they’re one of the worst. The daughter is 2 and “filming” videos of herself.
Why not just post pics of their kids sometimes? Like once a month. Not every 5 minutes. It’s so strange. The way they act so perfect gets on my last nerves also.
Breanne Dixon the only reason they are big as they are is because of their kids
Here comes The sun doo doo totally agreed. it‘s so obvious like, duh? catherine is boring af, imagine just a video of her or just austin without the kids around. boring as hell. like what are they gonna do without their kids? exactly, nothing. it‘s just so sick how they are getting all the money because of their daughters
Ok I completely agree with everything you said but I love the word “uncomfy”
it’s fucked up. children should be able to have control over what is shared about their lives. families should stick to home videos. it weirds me out that they feel the need to broadcast their daughter’s life literally from day one. they need to focus on raising their children and not their follower count.
That story about the 13 year old is tragic. When money gets involved, your hobbies become so much less fun. It’s horrible that her parents were going to quit their jobs and have that child support the whole family.
I think parents who use thier kids as a cash cow don’t respect thier children as people and human beings. To them, their kids are possessions and are to exploit.
That's the root of the problem here. If we didn't live in a world where parents didn't take advantage of the power they have over their children (and get away with it) constantly, "family vloggers' would barely exist.
What girl??
Jayda On A Journey are you talking about sophiemichellesays
I don’t even want to put my face often on the internet. Once you post your picture, everyone could save it or even use it for any purpose which is totally creeping me out
My children begged me for years for their own youtube channel. I finally agreed last year but set my conditions which included rules about privacy and online safety. Also, we made the rule that any video that went on their channel had to have unanimous approval by every member of the family. They run the channel, they split the ad revenue and it has been a very fun and rewarding project for them. I think that it's like any other hobby... kids lead and parents just supervise for safety. I wouldn't make my kid join a sport or activity, if they choose one then I support them in it and make sure they are safe.
@dolly Estrada How is that going for you? I’m in the same situation. My son has begged for 4 years. He as created logos, clothing, everything. I finally gave in and gave him a camera and drone. I edit his videos, upload, and plan outings for us but he and my husband approve the videos first. It’s all him. 100%. Sometimes we post 1 a month sometimes 1 a week. I wish I had the best answer. I keep our security the best we can. I have let him know some people will hate his blog and judge him, and all the possibilities. At his age 8. I get he doesn’t truly understand but it’s also something he keeps pushing for. So, I monitor and help him do it as safely as possible. It has nothing to do with money for us. As he is monetized but he does want grow his channel.
That’s what I love about Louise Pentland {SprinkleOfGlitter} she asks her daughter if she wants to be filmed she also asks her boyfriend and friend if they’re ok with being in the vlog or if she can film a certain thing. She knows people have boundaries and understands and respects
Kkandbabyj does that too sort of
Alana Gorman - Oh I love Louise, the lovely British lady! She interacts with her viewers, but rarely involves her kids - she mostly only talks about them. She recently had a baby - but didn't have the birth filmed like the rest of them - she has more class!
Phobepotatoegirl Pretty girl they don’t, they film everything for money
Same with Fleur de Force, she has a 1 year old but she rarely shows her or talks about her! Love this kind of youtubers!
Loren Olivero - Me too! And they don't boast and show off either! I have so much more respect for them! 💕
I freaked out when I watched the Ace Family. The little girl (Elle) seems to be very reluctant to make videos 🤐🤐🤐 Like who would like her dad to record and share when she goes to the dentist or meet her sister for the first time???? They are going to steal her childhood. I feel like they manipulate her emotions. One day Elle and the mom were going to surprise, the dad taking him to a basketball game. Elle got super hyped. Right before leaving, they told her: "why are you so excited? You are not going. You are staying with Nanny". She is also sexualized. "Reading my daughter's DMs". He actually said at the beginning that he doesnt want boys around, that she wont have FB, Twitter, Instagram (which she already has... but for his profit), that he doesn't want her daughter to be tagged as a WCW. Scary shit. He sexualizes her by pretending there is some kind of implicit DMs (which should actually worry him). But he was playing with that. "Someone asks how much She charges for a hmmm hmmm?" Did you just say that about your daughter????👊👊👊 She is 2... She shouldn't have to worry about boys or the way she looks. She is still a baby but it sure will become worse as she grows old. She is going to act her life 😓 instead of living it. How is she going to be a balanced adult?
They're one of the worst and make millions every year from exploiting their baby now babies!! What's just as twisted is their followers, they're like a cult how he calls them his ace family, it literally makes my skin crawl!!
that is clearly the WORST parenting-- a lot of them go in for shipping the babies!
@@hikerchick18 their followers definitely have some kind of issue. They are very young (hence very gullible) and I feel like they grow up with the idea that a perfect relationship/life exists. They will probably be frustrated, looking for something that is impossible. Experience has taught me that sometimes what looks perfect is actually more imperfect than something that looked normal from the beginning. It's sad that people take things as communicated to them, without questioning them. My motto is: always question 👊💪
@FuckYouGoogle haha! I had to look up WCW when he said it 🤣😂 it stands for Women Crush Wednesday. When someone is your crush you tag her with this hashtag... wth!
DMs are private messages sent directly to you
Poor Elle. That's terrible😔
I think after the shaytards channel fell apart it really changed my perspective on family vloggers
I did watch some family vloggers in my later preteen/early teen years (2011-2015)- namely one; which I am about to mention. I am very surprised that this one seems to be forgotten in these discussions about family vloggers - Bratayley. Their thirteen year old son died unexpectedly in 2015, which was unbelievably tragic and upsetting. I completely empathise with the family as that is the most heartbreaking situation imaginable. What sickened me however was that the parents started filming so soon afterwards - exposing their ten and six year old daughters' grief to the world. The ten year old (Annie LeBlanc - now a famous teenage star) was carrying around her baby security blanket as a coping mechanism because naturally she was extremely upset, unsafe traumatised. And people were giving this little girl grief in the comment section about it (apparently a child who has just lost her brother shouldn't be finding comfort in something that provides her with security). How could a parent in their right mind expose their child's grief like that? It's so wrong! That was the moment when I changed my mind about their channel and all of the family vloggers. Really made me see them in a different light. I cannot look at those parents' faces anymore without feeling a sense of anger for what they did to their girls during that time when they should have been shielded away.
i also feels like family channels are big on consumerism. a lot of it is based on 'surprises' (holidays, random presents) big present openings come christmas/birthdays, hauls, no budget videos etc. most of the kids seem grateful and nice, but what if the money dried up and they had to go back to living on an average budget/wage? some of them seem so used to going away or on 'adventures' all the time, that they don't really have a chance to just chill and do something more low-key, like reading or art or something, because it makes for 'boring' content i guess.
It also is weird to watch because it's likely a lot of those material goods the kids receive is made my children themselves.
@@mfitzburger5137 for sure! sometimes they even get young fans buying and sending them presents out of their own pocket money. its crazy.
Excellent point
krystal - The Sacconejolys recently dragged their kids on a 12 hour plane journey to Cuba to make a load of money off of advertising. The kids were hot, sunburned and exhausted in the scorching heat! They also more recently dragged them on a 'meet the public' book tour thing all over the UK during a brief vacation from school. I am sure the kids would have been much happier at home playing with their friends!
This is exactly what made me stop watching them when I was younger. They used to be normal people we could relate to and then they began buying expensive clothes, cars, houses, everyday the kids got new toys, etc. Their content began revolving around material things. And their lives seem perfect because they have all of these things, so you begin to compare. And younger viewers might not understand this so they feel bad that they don't have all the latest gadgets or clothes.
The Stauffer Life just posted a video titled “Is the baby okay?” with a picture of the ultrasound and her looking really sad. Nothing was wrong. So sick.
Amy Ashley
I believe she changed the title. But still, I agree that it’s very insensitive to do that.
I honestly can't stand watching Stauffer life. She is insensitive toward her children being recorded. Ugh.
When you mentioned that the kids don’t have any privacy in the sense that they don’t get to “sulk” or be “moody”, I instantly remembered stumbling upon this video where it was a mom with her daughter maybe the around 11 shopping for her first period kid or her first bra etc. Yo can tell how embarrassed this young girl was, because that’s something private that not everyone needs to know. I remember trying to hide that I had gotten my menstrual flow from my closest friends and other people close to me for a long type so imagine this kid now having millions of strangers knowing personal things about her life. Sure talk about these things because they are normal but give the child some sort of privacy with certain things especially as they grow older.
I was the oldest between me and my cousins and when i got my period even as a young girl i knew i shouldn't tell my family because they sucked, but i was too young to afford pads on my own so I had to tell them, sure enough my mom and aunts were laughing about it and talking about it for weeks. I cant imagine what these kids go though, some adults just don't see children as humans, i know that for a fact.
Famous family vloggers: films everyday of their child's existance
Predators online: I n t e r e s t I n g
The Bratayley family just moved into a new home and within 1 day of just showing a TINY portion of their home, their new address was all over the internet and a virtual house tour on the sight that sold the house. I find this terrifying just thinking about what a predator can do with that information....
How does that even happen? I didnt know that was even possible!!
@@xxnekonekox doxxing. It's easy for people to find out personal info based on pictures alone! Uploaded content also contains data and metadata that can be pinpointed to the exact location, and that is just without using IP address.
@@labota249 so if someone uploads a youtube video, that could be traced back to their actual location? Or at least the location where the video was taken? Forgive my ignorance on the topic.
@@xxnekonekox it can be traced to where it was uploaded at least. Someone who is more skilled can find out where it was filmed. At least if it were on a phone there is potential for location data to be present in videos. It's scary to think about, but even a selfie in your room could be traced even if uploaded in a different location.
the concept of family vlogging has made my stomach churn ever since the Bratayley family had their two little girls on camera 2 weeks after their brother died... and literally have never taken a break since...
I really did think they would stop after he passed away. I was truly shocked that they picked right back up after that, and so soon too.
Michaela Hope Money has gotta keep coming in some how. I was shocked too.
Michaela Hope - I literally thought exactly the same thing!!! What kind of parents could even think of carrying on like that after the loss of their son?!?! When I looked at their vlogs after Caleb's death I was shocked to see the mother shamelessly chatting away - almost as if nothing had happened! While the daughters looked sad and depressed! That mother is a monster!!!
alexandra
And letting her have a boyfriend even tho they constantly said she couldn't until 16 they only let her for the money and they let Annie do whatever she wants because she makes them the most money. Their cult followers would murder me for saying this
alexandra My daughter used to watch Bratayley every single day before Caleb died and for a little while after, and I was completely shocked at how fast they went back to vlogging. I remember telling my daughter who was ten at the time that they may never come back to TH-cam so she should be prepared for that. And then they were back about a week later, or less. Although I have to say it may have been pressure from Disney Maker studios who they were signed with at the time, since I believe they had their employees doing all the editing, and I remember how devastated the family seemed on camera (obviously). Now they’ve totally exploited Annie, forcing her to play teen idol and pop star and turning her into a spoilt brat, and they bought a huge house in LA with the money she made. And they just push Haley to the side and only address her when it’s convenient for them. They used to be a really wholesome family that I was totally okay with my young daughter watching, and now they’re just vile and unpleasant. Those beautiful girls are going to grow up so emotionally damaged and it makes me so sad.
This is a very well made video and the way you explain is amazing! I watched your part 1 first and I subscribed immediately.
This is very saddening, Billy Ray Cyrus came out and said that Hannah Montana ruined his family and even said he would take it all back now. The pressure that Miley Cyrus, who was older than these children when she rose to fame (still too young of course), I remember she had SO MUCH pressure on her at all times. Miley/Nick were such a huge topic during the Disney days. I cannot even phantom how this must be for these kids. Once they start getting older and reading comments, having people making hate comments on them specifically, etc. how will that affect them?
If adult celebrities sometimes crack under the pressure and it's too much for them--imagine these kids who all they know is working every day from the moment they wake up to the moment they sleep.
I'd feel so damn uncomfortable being at a family event and having a family member always vlogging it for their channel and making their kids put on an act. Many of these family vloggers have been exposed for over exaggerating events for views. I can only hope their kids grow up to be the opposite of most of them.
I am not saying that these parents are bad people, I'm sure they do care and love their kids. I agree that it's a personal choice to show or feature your kids in videos or photos, however, to make your children the MAIN focus...? I don't know... I'd put my child's safety above all. I've also thought about how many pedos are watching these videos, and it's a horrible topic but it can't be ignored.
Exactly and then they be criticizing kris jenner for using her daughters. When really everyone now a days use their kids to make money. Never was a big fan of the Ace family
my main problem with it is that the children are unable to consent to having themselves shared online, because, like you said, they can't comprehend how many people are watching. and once they are old enough to comprehend and to consent fully, it's too late, and their identity is already out there. i can't imagine how i'd feel as an adult knowing that my childhood was commodified for others to watch, unable to be taken back. what about when these children start applying for jobs, and prospective employers can see their entire life history, videos of them aged 5 in the bath, etc.? i'll be very interested to see how many of these children are resentful as they get older, and if any of them sue their parents for the profits earned in the videos.
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I think family vloggers should be required to put so much of the money in a trust for the kids. They do this for child actors should be required for youtube.
When it comes to the child’s privacy, I’ve sadly noticed that lots of older generation parents fully believe that child aren’t owed or deserve privacy that a child is too innocent too need privacy. So many parents who aren’t even vloggers believe this and rip the doors off their kids and teenagers bedroom cause they were mouthing off or got bad grades as a punishment.
I see the kids of 8 Passengers having huge emotional issues when they grow up. Their puberty has been exploited by their mother.
Yeah 8 Passengers are cancelled now. They deserve it tbh
@@flyattgyatt
They just posted a video today.
I grew up with my parents working from home, running a music school. So there were always people in my house from the time I woke up to the time I went to sleep. It made home pretty uncomfortable at times, especially when I was having off days and wanted some peace and quiet. I imagine these kids feel what I felt times a million, given that it’s not just their home that is work, but their LIVES. Crazy shit. Great video!
anna very true!
i was hoping you’d make a part two...i seriously don’t get how more people aren’t talking about family vlogging. it’s just so bizarre to me
I thing one of the saddest part of family vlogs is they start off small , fun ,real, then get popular and it just takes over...
5:10 I feel so hurt after watching only this small clip..it breaks my heart how they treat him :(
HEY STOB IT ugh yes! That upset me so much!!😡
@@Phalguni777 the worst part is that they are too young to realize it and stop it from happening.
If you want to see what most of these kids will be thinking in a few years, watch the excellent and thoughtful movie "The Truman Show."
The sense of betrayal the main character felt is massive.
Huh, I've never thought about it from Truman's perspective. but you're right
This is going to get ugly in a few years
Peanut W same! It’s borderline abuse IMO. Literally turns my stomach . She filmed her son pooping in a public restroom
This is really dark to say, but there will be a story of a kid who was literally vlogged to death. That could be from taking their own life due to depression/anxiety from the stress of having your life support your family's livelihood. Or it could be parents placing a kid in a dangerous situation that ended in a accidental death. Family vloggers are really pushing the bounds lately. Its crazy.
Darya Virden caleb logan from bratayley
Darya Virden - If you mean Caleb (I forget last name - Bratalay?). He tragically died of cardiomegaly - enlarged heart - at just 13. There are no symptoms and I believe he died in his sleep. They were talking about him on another thread.
@@peachesandcream.2612 He died from a medical condition that he couldn't control, I don't think it was suicide. What Darya is saying, is that a child will eventually commit suicide from the stress of family vlogging INTENTIONALLY... I don't think Caleb wanted to die... but then again, we will never know.
Sadly i See a lot of suicides and mental health struggles coming from family vlogging
Just imagine having your Personal life from birth out there for the whole World to See.
Ive struggled w anxiety All my life and love privacy. I truly think being that invaded wouldve pused me to the edge.
I’m so happy to see there are people out there who see these family vloggers for what they are. And have the same concerns for the children in these videos.
The biggest issue of all is one of Informed Consent.
The Parents made the informed decision to make their life Public, to the whole world.
However, their children have not.
While a woman is pregnant, what she chooses to do with her body is her informed choice.
As soon as that child is born, they have a separate identity. And thus a right to protect that identity.
Any children of consenting volger parents will not be able to give a full understood & informed consent to a 'Truman Show' existence until well into adulthood.
The informed consent of all parties needs to be given, before being turned into "entertainment".
I love the video. I wish you'd spoken a little more about the thumbnails some of these family vloggers use. A few weeks ago OKbaby made a thumbnail of their three year old son peeing his pants. It made me furious! Not only did they include all of the footage of him being upset and ashamed of it, they made it the focal point of the vlog.
that is really sad and such lousy parenting. protect the kid, don't expose and mock your kid
Actually Levi is a good example on kids not comfortable on camera and the parents still doing it.
He has expressed in various occasions that he doesn't want to be filmed, yet they still add the footage
@@npineapple3077 I agree! They are merely "content creators"
Bonnie Hoellien is the same way. She got into so much trouble this time last year because of all the degrading thumbnails and videos of her kids. I finally got sick of it and unsubscribed after she sat and yelled at her kids for getting lice. She yelled about how they were ugly and wouldn't have any friends and how she hated them. She even locks her 3 year old in his room and yells at him through the door! Its sad and devastating.
If anyone want to know the real tea about these TH-cam "moms" go look up ytmommadrama. It's a site that's supported by guru gossip. There's a lot of people on that site who just needlessly bully and nitpick, but there are also many people who go there to voice their frustrations in a (mostly) kind and productive way. It's really eye opening to say the least...
I literally think about this topic all of the time. How weird is it that children will be able to look back and see themselves from birth and on. Sadly, most of their childhood memories will be based on a video instead of what the day was actually like.
Interesting you mentioned that, I was just thinking the other day how I’m not sure if some of my early childhood memories are real recollections or just what I remember watching on family movies my grandpa used to make. I obviously love those videos and love my grandpa so much and he just liked technology, even if it was this huge camera he carried around in like 1996 and casually filmed family gathering. It is obviously completely different from family vloggers, but I guess it shows that this could affect their notions of how their childhoods actually were in very negative way.
BeccasLife that’s a great point for photo/video memories in general. It can’t depict your exact experience because it’s more external and factual, and usually has too many details or isn’t full. And eventually you start remembering only the moments captured because they’re the ones your mind replays when you’re scrolling through pics on your phone. Or the memory gets distorted - you were sad but you quickly forget it because you’re smiling on the pic.
I think of photos and videos as of art/way of self-expression, not as of depiction of your life. For the later, diaries (text format) or voice memos come the closest.
That clip from DaddyOfive broke my heart :(
Ryan toy reviews is also one of these family channels you are mentioning, the mother said her son Ryan chose to be a TH-camr when he was 2 years old, his mother claims that her son watched a toy review video and said "I want to do the same" I personally think is bs but we won't ever know until the kid grows up and come out of that bubble and go out there in the real world and realize he was being exploited his entire childhood.
family vloggers seem like they act their lives instead of living them
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FOR REAL THO!🙌
Perfectly stated.
I'm a mom who started watching TH-cam when I first became pregnant to relate to other pregnant mom's and learn what to expect. Now I have two kids and my kids are growing up at the same stages as the now family vloggers. This video has me rethinking what videos I'm supporting. I would never agree to put my kids in the public eye, yet I have been supporting it? Thank you for this honest video, extremely eye opening!
daddyofive traumatized their children omg
"was anyone traumatized"
"no... wait i dont even know what that word means"
just sounds heartbreaking..
I feel like some of these kids are going to grow up and fight for legislation against it. Tbh
Oh they definitely are and will most likely expose the reality of growing up in an environment where you are filmed 24/7 and the family income all depends on you and your performances, which I am 100% sure is NOT as fun and amazing as the parents make it out to be
INCREDIBLE video
Incredible...meaning NOT "CREDIBLE"
She is truly amazing i love her videos
@@katlott6254 Incredable... meaning difficult to believe; extraordinary.
"the noise from the crowd was incredible"
synonyms: magnificent, wonderful, marvellous, spectacular, remarkable, phenomenal, prodigious, miraculous, sublime; etc.
100% agree with your content about these family vloggers. There is a huge difference in showing your children and actually using them (like you already said). I have to give props to Kristen Cavalri for making the decision to keep her children off her show bc they aren’t old enough to make that decision. It’s a privacy concern for her and I admire that decision.
I hate when they say “We WaNt To ShOw PeOpLe ThAt LiFe Is HaRd.” like we don’t already know that!
Childhood is so vulnerable. I can think of some times in my childhood where putting my whole life on the internet would have RUINED me.
I think a documentary on this would be worthwhile!!! One family, especially the mother in the Stauffer Life make me cringe! They adopted a boy from China that their viewers paid for, then 6 months later bought a mansion! They use him as an object and you can see they only adopted him for more views. They treat him different than their 3 biological kids too! She's pregnant again and mentioned in a vlog not too long ago how their views skyrocketed w/ her last pregnancy!! These people are money hungry and completely narcasistic, sociopathic, they delete every comment I make and so many others because it hurts their image!
Man, I used to watch them occasionally before the whole adoption, but the minute they got Huxley it became clear they were OF COURSE milking the situation
I hoped it was only my imagination but overall stopped watching the videos because I got so uncomfortable with the way specially the mom treated him
ugh thats gross! i also kind of feel like a lot of them do have more kids just for the views. like oh we're losing views or subscribers...what should we do? have another baby! because they know they can get a lot of content out of it. i'm sure some of them genuinely do want more kids, but idk.
krystal like the saccone jolys
MatureTruant she is THE WORST!!!!!
First family that came to mind! Myka is cringy and Huxley and her kids are nothing but her cash cow. Its sickening. I've also mentioned the way things appear and my comments always get deleted.
Imagine relying on your children to get money it’s sickening
My fear is that these kids would get kidnapped or something and they wouldn’t know or something like that and the fact that they are literally kids they will think it’s fake and they will just get rescued but they don’t
My dad filmed me when I was little then put them on you tube on a private account so no one could see it, but I am able to see them and it is really nice.
The sacconejoly’s are a great example of a lot of these points. I once saw tweets a while back where someone informed the dad Jonathan that there were pics of his daughter Emilia on inappropriate websites and he was super dismissive of it. This was easily 2+ years ago and they’re still vlogging daily, featuring their 4 children heavily, etc. I’ve also seen a clip of his son Eduardo trying to push the camera away, giving up, and dropping to the ground in tears, Jonathan continued to film it. So sad. And that’s not even everything, there are SO many other problematic things they have done!!!! They are a prime example of featuring their kids and not caring about the long term effects.
Melissa Flowers they’re the number one family that comes to mind when I was watching this video! I can’t stand them!
legit! I can't imagine being Emilia, having my entire 6 years of life so far being flogged everyday. I think it's awful.
They are awful and completely delusional and materialistic - they really do annoy me!
Same thing happened to Daily Bumps and Ellie and Jared. With E&J their kids videos were put on pedo youtube channels and they were told multiple times and chose to delete the comments and block the well meaning fans. DB was similar when Ollie was younger and they showed bathtime on every vlog which were found cliped from the vlog and uploaded under various channels full of semi nude children. It also happens to the moms.. lots of websites out there linking their pregnancy videos for men with fetishes. As long as they get that paycheck...
The Saccone Jolys are the only family vlog I watch.
Totally agree with everything you said. I actually used to keep up with a couple of daily family vloggers but then started to realise how weird it is. I bet a lot of those kids are gonna grow up with issues
This is something I have been arguing about for years. it's amazing how precient The Truman show was in predicting how people would sacrifice their child's privacy for fame and money.
🙋♀️ someone told me about this video mentioning me, very well done. I hope your video gets a lot of exposure. I think it’s important to mention that I was a TINY channel and not making money for my videos, but once learning what I did, it became obvious that channels with managers / or larger channels intentionally chose those thumbnails and tags. When I found the analytics, it was the first I’d ever seen it. I had no idea it existed or that I could find my traffic sources or things like that, where professional channels use their analytics to target and grow purposefully. I was (am) a nobody who stumbled into this very very dark reality on TH-cam.
That's heartbreaking :(
thank you for this info ... cherry on top .
The Life of a Homemaker - I'm sorry, but could you explain a bit more please. I knows it's my fault, but I am not following - and I am very interested in what you are saying! God Bless 💕