It's a shame the motor is bad but it was still great to see it torn down and diagnosed to see what the problem is. Thanks for taking the time to share this with everyone.
A friend gave me combination belt/disc sander. He said the capacitor was replaced, but that the replacement capacitor had died. As you know, this meant the motor did not rotate, just hummed until the shaft was moved then it ran fine. I purchased a new capacitor and it now runs. Just another example of how a motor can fail, but in this case an inexpensive fix. Too bad the starter circuit does not shut off. As you said, good that you caught this before it overheated. Dave.
I didn't think the motor would run after seeing the winding burnt up like that. Very helpful video. I always learn something from you. It was nice to see an extra video this week too, thank you.
Everything I know is from mistakes... sorry I'm late...honestly I got so wrapped up making mistakes on the lathe yesterday, I forgot you were posting this bonus video... I'm caught back up now.. smart idea cutting the cord! Thank ya for your time Mr. John!
I had a motor repair company that told me most of the time it was cheaper to purchase a new motor that repair them. That is the more modern motors. He loved the older ones.
Thanks for the Tuesday video! There are some parts worth saving off that motor so not a total loss. That oak board you salvaged from the roll top desk will look good under a nice motor too.
Every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new and useful. Your generosity in creating these videos and graciously posting them here is very much appreciated!
I look forward to your videos every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Truly made my day when I saw you put one out today! Another great tutorial and great entertainment. Thanks for all you do.
I set my clock by ScoutCrafter. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. My system is upset now! A TUESDAY...FAIL!?! It will take a Wednesday, Friday, Monday to recover! We had a ton of electric motors when we farmed. And I didn't know beans about much of anything back then. I remember helping replace one or two, usually in the dead of winter on a ladder working at the end of an elevator. The end outside. These motor vids are interesting.
Love the bonus episode,it was unfortunate about the windings,however I wouldn't consider a failure. If you don't check things like that a bigger problem emerges then you could lose more than your $10, thanks again.
When the cord is damaged and I have to remove it, and the plug is a moulded one, I usually bend the pins of the plug before I throw it away. So the plug won't fit into a socket outlet anymore. It prevents that, in the worst case ,a kid finds it and out of curiousity plugs it into a socket outlet and gets shocked by the open end.
It’s a good thing you had that meter on that motor while testing, just think if someone didn’t know what they were doing. Holy cow. Catastrophic!! Fun Tuesday!
My grandparents had this identical type motor on their downdraft gas furnace blower assembly. I serviced it for 30+yrs before I moved to FL & the younger grandkids took over that duty.
Was just looking for tear down, found a bearing issue, but I enjoyed your video. If I ever start doing videos I will need to find the hand on a stick. Very helpful and cute.
FYI- today kinda SUUUUUUUUCKED until I got a notice that you ,OBI WON, just published a new video!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! This makes me as happy as a tornado in a trailer park!!!!!!!
In no way, a fail. An all round success, in my mind. So it couldn't be made to work but thats not a fail, its what all your effort was for; determining the viability of a machine. Cheers John.
Thank you so much. You just saved me a lot of time and headache trying to replace bearings on a dead motor. OMG this thing has been running continuously for a while. It’s a miracle my garage didn’t burn down but I always had a fan blowing on the motor because duh it always ran hot. It’s almost this same exact model and used to run a Lortone rock tumbler with three 12 lb barrels.
This must be us on the same wavelength! Toots wants a hand mower she can start so she can trim. I have a 2010 Troy-bilt with electric start. Got the electric start working fine BUT after the mower starts, it won't restart till it sits a bit.THEN you have to lay the ether to it because the primer don't work. I'd cut the cord but it goes to the charger for the battery. See, you're not by yourself, Johnny! God Bless!
I think we have all bought something that we end up using for parts 😂. However it was a great show and I did learn something. Thank You for sharing John!
Great extra credit video. Would be interested to measure the windings with a meter and see if you can measure to demonstrate the issue. Thanks for the extra enjoyment. Best Regards, John
Awesome info and now I don't feel so bad letting the service guy take away my motor after one of the appliances failed. Per one of your previous vid's I bought the book "Basics of Fractional Horsepower Motors and Repair" by Gerald Schweitzer. Had to wait for a few months because when you mention something the price spikes.
I suspect the inertial switch failed to work and the heavy starting current was left applied to the heavy starting windings. The excessive current flow burned out the windings. It is probably running on the starter windings. Thanks John.
You didn't fail - it was just a burned out motor - not your fault. I find the best source of great motors are when a neighbor or relative tosses out an old washing machine. I've never had a washer motor go bad, it's usually the electronics or control panel. I have motors from old washers that I have been using for 35-40 years and still going strong. I do agree with you - if the cord is missing or cut - PASS!
I tore apart one of those newer washing machine motors just to see what makes it tick and save a few parts including the shaft, round stock is always handy. Those are not made to be serviced, they seem to be spot welded and made to never come apart just replaced.
Great video 👍 Loved seeing another motor tear down. Great information on what to look out for when you have a suspected bad motor. Did those windings give off that electrical burnt smell when you pulled it open? You are right you take a chance when find or you buy motors like that. But I still like to take them apart and to see if it can be serviced or what actually went wrong with it. Well maybe you can save some of the parts if you run into another one just like that one. You might find one on the Poor Mans Flea Market 😂👍👍. Speaking of the Poor Mans Flea Market, what a fantastic find of all those drill bits made by Whitman and Barnes,looks like all great quality USA 🇺🇸 drill bits,again fantastic find. Great shot of Old Glory 🇺🇸 blowing in breeze. Well again great video and can’t wait to see what you do tomorrow. Have a fantastic evening! 😃👍👍
That was a win win. You got to check it out and got a parts motor too. For a second I thought that was nice of the manufacturer to color code the winding 😂
Speaking of fails, I saw a video yesterday from the UK where a guy wanted to restore an air compressor. The tank had so much rust inside, that when he cleaned out the rust, there was a hole in the tank side! =(
@@kevinbreckenridge6729 I saw a picture of a fuel pump that a customer installed themselves in a fuel tank. They must have left the plastic bag on, that is placed over the pump at the factory. Brilliant! Video: Start @ 1 min. 12 seconds to see the pump. th-cam.com/video/IeB0EZmxT8M/w-d-xo.html
When I come across a bad motor, it goes into the recycle barrel. All useable parts I keep. My two young daughters collect all the recycling money. We can’t save them all. Thank You
Very nice video. I have a quite old 1 HP 115/230 VAC Dayton "Power Capacitor Motor" from my dad's Craftsman table saw, but it does not have an external capacitor. It has an integral power switch, but was modified to be turned On/Off by an external switch. I found that there is a 110 V potential from the saw frame to earth ground which makes it quite a hazard. The model is KS 73 BT-217, but have searched to no end to get its specs. I want to remove the end housing where the wiring is located to try to determine the source of the short. Any suggestions/comments are welcomed. Thanks in advance. Roger B
I bought a megometer to test the insulation on electric motors. I bought it specifically for flea market motor shopping....it sounded like a great idea at the time, but i never really trusted the readings. Cheers
Great John , nice to show the fails , and you do indeed learn from them . I've never had luck tearing them down , always very fragile inside not like yours !! I don't bother with motors any more , only ever managed to fix one , that's because I knew before hand it was a capacitor so was a simple change . Gotta laugh everytime you say bellends ... Really don't fancy a glancing blow with a hammer on the bellend ....
I have a grinder motor wih a similar problem. MIne has a starter relay that shuts off the starting winding once it reaches a set speed. The relay burned out and I can't find a new one. I could put a manual switch in the control circuit to shut off the starting winding. Not sure if it is worth the trouble. 😁😁😎😎
I don't know much about motors but would appreciate your advice... I would like to get a 1/4 hp motor for continuous use. I would be running this motor all day, everyday for long time. I'm making a rock tumbler & using it to tumble rocks. This will be running for weeks at a time 24 hour a day. I don't know if I need a single phase motor. Or if there are motors with built in fans within the motor to keep it cool? I heard Dayton or Marathon motors are good. Any advice Or input on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 😎
Can you check the draw of amperage where the power cord hooks up on the motor? Using your voltage meter ? I think mine has an amp measurement on it .?? But is there a way to check if you don’t have that measurement tool you have John.
By major coincidence someone will throw out a motor for the poors mans fleamarket with a cracked housing or bent shaft or something this week. We can only hope😄
If you find any electrical device with the cord cut it means ScoutCrafter has been there before you. LOL.
Thats a Huge Thumbs up and your 100% correct
It's a shame the motor is bad but it was still great to see it torn down and diagnosed to see what the problem is. Thanks for taking the time to share this with everyone.
Scoutcrafter does a Teardown Tuesday! Tremendous!
A friend gave me combination belt/disc sander. He said the capacitor was replaced, but that the replacement capacitor had died. As you know, this meant the motor did not rotate, just hummed until the shaft was moved then it ran fine.
I purchased a new capacitor and it now runs. Just another example of how a motor can fail, but in this case an inexpensive fix.
Too bad the starter circuit does not shut off. As you said, good that you caught this before it overheated.
Dave.
I didn't think the motor would run after seeing the winding burnt up like that. Very helpful video. I always learn something from you. It was nice to see an extra video this week too, thank you.
I found this video very informative as I am about to tear down my own electric motor. Thanks for the video!!
Everything I know is from mistakes... sorry I'm late...honestly I got so wrapped up making mistakes on the lathe yesterday, I forgot you were posting this bonus video... I'm caught back up now.. smart idea cutting the cord! Thank ya for your time Mr. John!
I had a motor repair company that told me most of the time it was cheaper to purchase a new motor that repair them. That is the more modern motors. He loved the older ones.
Well done. Always nice getting an extra video!!
Another great learning video. Thanks again!
Thanks for the special edition video. Definitely learned something from it.
WOW - BEAUTIFUL BLUE SKY ON THE ISLAND.
Thanks for the Tuesday video! There are some parts worth saving off that motor so not a total loss. That oak board you salvaged from the roll top desk will look good under a nice motor too.
Every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new and useful. Your generosity in creating these videos and graciously posting them here is very much appreciated!
I look forward to your videos every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Truly made my day when I saw you put one out today! Another great tutorial and great entertainment. Thanks for all you do.
I set my clock by ScoutCrafter. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. My system is upset now! A TUESDAY...FAIL!?! It will take a Wednesday, Friday, Monday to recover!
We had a ton of electric motors when we farmed. And I didn't know beans about much of anything back then. I remember helping replace one or two, usually in the dead of winter on a ladder working at the end of an elevator. The end outside. These motor vids are interesting.
Love the bonus episode,it was unfortunate about the windings,however I wouldn't consider a failure. If you don't check things like that a bigger problem emerges then you could lose more than your $10, thanks again.
Brilliant Mate!! Ya gotta love a good smoke test eh!!☻
When the cord is damaged and I have to remove it, and the plug is a moulded one, I usually bend the pins of the plug before I throw it away. So the plug won't fit into a socket outlet anymore. It prevents that, in the worst case ,a kid finds it and out of curiousity plugs it into a socket outlet and gets shocked by the open end.
It’s a good thing you had that meter on that motor while testing, just think if someone didn’t know what they were doing. Holy cow. Catastrophic!! Fun Tuesday!
Good Explanation Scout . It Does Show You Can't Win Them All. Looking Forward to Tomorrow.
My grandparents had this identical type motor on their downdraft gas furnace blower assembly.
I serviced it for 30+yrs before I moved to FL & the younger grandkids took over that duty.
Was just looking for tear down, found a bearing issue, but I enjoyed your video. If I ever start doing videos I will need to find the hand on a stick. Very helpful and cute.
FYI- today kinda SUUUUUUUUCKED until I got a notice that you ,OBI WON, just published a new video!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! This makes me as happy as a tornado in a trailer park!!!!!!!
Nice treat, a Tuesday upload. Brightens my day.
In no way, a fail. An all round success, in my mind. So it couldn't be made to work but thats not a fail, its what all your effort was for; determining the viability of a machine. Cheers John.
Nice job John,
Thank you so much. You just saved me a lot of time and headache trying to replace bearings on a dead motor. OMG this thing has been running continuously for a while. It’s a miracle my garage didn’t burn down but I always had a fan blowing on the motor because duh it always ran hot. It’s almost this same exact model and used to run a Lortone rock tumbler with three 12 lb barrels.
hey John, what a special treat. tks Mimmo
Good tutorial on electric motors sir, I like it. Thanks for the video.
Another great lesson 👍 and on a Tuesday too wow 🤩
This must be us on the same wavelength! Toots wants a hand mower she can start so she can trim. I have a 2010 Troy-bilt with electric start. Got the electric start working fine BUT after the mower starts, it won't restart till it sits a bit.THEN you have to lay the ether to it because the primer don't work. I'd cut the cord but it goes to the charger for the battery. See, you're not by yourself, Johnny! God Bless!
I think we have all bought something that we end up using for parts 😂. However it was a great show and I did learn something. Thank You for sharing John!
Japonlar teknolojik alanda gerçekten harika. Tanıtımınız için teşeklürler.
Great extra credit video. Would be interested to measure the windings with a meter and see if you can measure to demonstrate the issue. Thanks for the extra enjoyment.
Best Regards,
John
Thanks John. We all needed this. Jim
Every time I watch I learn a little something. Thanks!
Awesome info and now I don't feel so bad letting the service guy take away my motor after one of the appliances failed. Per one of your previous vid's I bought the book "Basics of Fractional Horsepower Motors and Repair" by Gerald Schweitzer. Had to wait for a few months because when you mention something the price spikes.
Wow a special ScoutCrafter video. Let’s get right to it!
Another great video. I found the disassembly of the motor very interesting.
I suspect the inertial switch failed to work and the heavy starting current was left applied to the heavy starting windings. The excessive current flow burned out the windings. It is probably running on the starter windings. Thanks John.
You are a great teacher. Thank you.
Sorry this motor didn’t work out, but it was very educational to see. Thanks for the special edition! 👍
Very informative video, as usual! Have learned a lot from you over the last few years, thank you!
You didn't fail - it was just a burned out motor - not your fault. I find the best source of great motors are when a neighbor or relative tosses out an old washing machine. I've never had a washer motor go bad, it's usually the electronics or control panel. I have motors from old washers that I have been using for 35-40 years and still going strong. I do agree with you - if the cord is missing or cut - PASS!
Once again I learned something from your great videos thanks
I tore apart one of those newer washing machine motors just to see what makes it tick and save a few parts including the shaft, round stock is always handy. Those are not made to be serviced, they seem to be spot welded and made to never come apart just replaced.
Always learning something new. Thanks.
Worth a try, thanks for showing it to us. Oh, well.
This was a great surprise! I'm glad to see an extra video! Have a great night !
Thanks for sharing this, just learning myself.
Me too! 😃👍
Great bonus episode!
Great video. Great information .👍👍❤...
Appreciate an extra video this week. Today is my birthday so it was a great way to celebrate
Thanks for this John, useful to know !
I always initial it NFG to save somebody else from the headache I experienced. 😂
Whoa! I got worried when I saw your video pop up on a Tuesday 😂. I thought something was wrong. Glad you're OK!
Good video and very informative. Thanks
I love that pointer
Great video 👍 Loved seeing another motor tear down. Great information on what to look out for when you have a suspected bad motor. Did those windings give off that electrical burnt smell when you pulled it open? You are right you take a chance when find or you buy motors like that. But I still like to take them apart and to see if it can be serviced or what actually went wrong with it. Well maybe you can save some of the parts if you run into another one just like that one. You might find one on the Poor Mans Flea Market 😂👍👍. Speaking of the Poor Mans Flea Market, what a fantastic find of all those drill bits made by Whitman and Barnes,looks like all great quality USA 🇺🇸 drill bits,again fantastic find. Great shot of Old Glory 🇺🇸 blowing in breeze. Well again great video and can’t wait to see what you do tomorrow. Have a fantastic evening! 😃👍👍
Steven- Surprisingly there was no burnt smell on this motor! I always check for that. 😂👍
I thought it was Wednesday for a second
Me too...I was thinking where is the Monday
Wow, that is some really good information!
That was a win win. You got to check it out and got a parts motor too. For a second I thought that was nice of the manufacturer to color code the winding 😂
😂. Yes! A dark blue primary would be a nice contrast. I can’t believe this motor had no smell of burning wire. 🤔😃👍
Speaking of fails, I saw a video yesterday from the UK where a guy wanted to restore an air compressor. The tank had so much rust inside, that when he cleaned out the rust, there was a hole in the tank side! =(
Did that with a fuel tank. I told the boss, "if it's not broken don't fix it, fuel filters are cheap" ...he didn't listen!
@@kevinbreckenridge6729 I saw a picture of a fuel pump that a customer installed themselves in a fuel tank. They must have left the plastic bag on, that is placed over the pump at the factory. Brilliant!
Video: Start @ 1 min. 12 seconds to see the pump. th-cam.com/video/IeB0EZmxT8M/w-d-xo.html
Was nice to see a fail I always say you learn more from your mistakes than your successes
Love it god bless take care 👍🙏🦅🇺🇸🗽🇳🇿🪖
When I come across a bad motor, it goes into the recycle barrel. All useable parts I keep. My two young daughters collect all the recycling money. We can’t save them all. Thank You
Jess- The stands come in handy. 😃👍
Very nice video. I have a quite old 1 HP 115/230 VAC Dayton "Power Capacitor Motor" from my dad's Craftsman table saw, but it does not have an external capacitor. It has an integral power switch, but was modified to be turned On/Off by an external switch.
I found that there is a 110 V potential from the saw frame to earth ground which makes it quite a hazard.
The model is KS 73 BT-217, but have searched to no end to get its specs. I want to remove the end housing where the wiring is located to try to determine the source of the short.
Any suggestions/comments are welcomed. Thanks in advance.
Roger B
I bought a megometer to test the insulation on electric motors. I bought it specifically for flea market motor shopping....it sounded like a great idea at the time, but i never really trusted the readings. Cheers
😂. Same here! Those readings can be all over the place. 😃👍
Great John , nice to show the fails , and you do indeed learn from them . I've never had luck tearing them down , always very fragile inside not like yours !! I don't bother with motors any more , only ever managed to fix one , that's because I knew before hand it was a capacitor so was a simple change . Gotta laugh everytime you say bellends ... Really don't fancy a glancing blow with a hammer on the bellend ....
Would have loved to see a rewinding of the burned coil to make it useable again.
Great video SC!!!!!!!
I have a grinder motor wih a similar problem.
MIne has a starter relay that shuts off the starting winding once it reaches a set speed. The relay burned out and I can't find a new one. I could put a manual switch in the control circuit to shut off the starting winding. Not sure if it is worth the trouble. 😁😁😎😎
I don't know much about motors but would appreciate your advice...
I would like to get a 1/4 hp motor for continuous use. I would be running this motor all day, everyday for long time. I'm making a rock tumbler & using it to tumble rocks. This will be running for weeks at a time 24 hour a day. I don't know if I need a single phase motor. Or if there are motors with built in fans within the motor to keep it cool? I heard Dayton or Marathon motors are good. Any advice
Or input on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 😎
I think you need to do a megging on these motors and cords
A Tuesday video?! My weeks been improved!
Interesting fail 🛠👍😊
Unlike DC motors the field Coils easier to remove and replace its a good parts motor
We get extra content!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Gotcha watching
A good sniff with the nose will often tell if the windings are toast. Start windings and run windings.
Yes! I always sniff a motor before buying and did this one too but it had no burnt smell whatsoever! It got me good! 😂👍
Can you check the draw of amperage where the power cord hooks up on the motor? Using your voltage meter ? I think mine has an amp measurement on it .?? But is there a way to check if you don’t have that measurement tool you have John.
Hook! Yes there is, I will cover it soon. 😃👍
.SOME NEED A LITTLE MORE FINE TUNING THAN OTHERS..LOL..GOOD ONE, KEEP WELL...
No one can be 100% lucky all the time.
Hello what does this motor do?
By major coincidence someone will throw out a motor for the poors mans fleamarket with a cracked housing or bent shaft or something this week. We can only hope😄
1/3 hp motor, but 115v x 6.6 amps should be almost 1 hp? I must be missing something.
what did you use to see how much amperage it was drawing?
It’s a small devise called a Kill-a-watt I will demonstrate it this week. 😃👍
Kill-A-Watt Meter, they display watts, amps, voltage and such. About $30 or so.
Even though you are "the cord cutter" I agree, electric issue, cut the cord. Mechanical issue, maybe somebody else can figure it out.
That was burnt worse than a Friar’s Club Roast.😜🤪
You can always learn from a failure.
It's thermally protected, so at some point the thermal should open and shut down the motor.
Bell-end plus mallet??????😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Next up ---- Kilowatt Meters
Haii❤
What the Heck..!!😂😅
Very interesting but too bad.
If electric motors require oil, does that mean you need to take an EV car to get its oil changed?
Why is your hand so small and why does it look plastic? Why does your arm look wooden?