Special Edition Dayton Electric Motor Teardown and Evaluation

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  • Even though this motor was a fail in the end we gained valuable information.

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  • @EVILDR235
    @EVILDR235 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If you find any electrical device with the cord cut it means ScoutCrafter has been there before you. LOL.

    • @rogerstlaurent8704
      @rogerstlaurent8704 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats a Huge Thumbs up and your 100% correct

  • @lv_woodturner3899
    @lv_woodturner3899 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A friend gave me combination belt/disc sander. He said the capacitor was replaced, but that the replacement capacitor had died. As you know, this meant the motor did not rotate, just hummed until the shaft was moved then it ran fine.
    I purchased a new capacitor and it now runs. Just another example of how a motor can fail, but in this case an inexpensive fix.
    Too bad the starter circuit does not shut off. As you said, good that you caught this before it overheated.
    Dave.

  • @Resto-Rob
    @Resto-Rob ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a motor repair company that told me most of the time it was cheaper to purchase a new motor that repair them. That is the more modern motors. He loved the older ones.

  • @johnkelley9877
    @johnkelley9877 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's a shame the motor is bad but it was still great to see it torn down and diagnosed to see what the problem is. Thanks for taking the time to share this with everyone.

  • @intrnetjunkie1796
    @intrnetjunkie1796 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scoutcrafter does a Teardown Tuesday! Tremendous!

  • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
    @BencoVintageMachineWorks ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the Tuesday video! There are some parts worth saving off that motor so not a total loss. That oak board you salvaged from the roll top desk will look good under a nice motor too.

  • @TheKidFromYTown
    @TheKidFromYTown ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I didn't think the motor would run after seeing the winding burnt up like that. Very helpful video. I always learn something from you. It was nice to see an extra video this week too, thank you.

  • @nicknicoletti9778
    @nicknicoletti9778 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s a good thing you had that meter on that motor while testing, just think if someone didn’t know what they were doing. Holy cow. Catastrophic!! Fun Tuesday!

  • @joemoach832
    @joemoach832 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the special edition video. Definitely learned something from it.

  • @AndyM.
    @AndyM. ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FYI- today kinda SUUUUUUUUCKED until I got a notice that you ,OBI WON, just published a new video!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! This makes me as happy as a tornado in a trailer park!!!!!!!

  • @Marcel_Germann
    @Marcel_Germann ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When the cord is damaged and I have to remove it, and the plug is a moulded one, I usually bend the pins of the plug before I throw it away. So the plug won't fit into a socket outlet anymore. It prevents that, in the worst case ,a kid finds it and out of curiousity plugs it into a socket outlet and gets shocked by the open end.

  • @mikebrunosgarage5338
    @mikebrunosgarage5338 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the bonus episode,it was unfortunate about the windings,however I wouldn't consider a failure. If you don't check things like that a bigger problem emerges then you could lose more than your $10, thanks again.

  • @bigvicsworkshop
    @bigvicsworkshop ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everything I know is from mistakes... sorry I'm late...honestly I got so wrapped up making mistakes on the lathe yesterday, I forgot you were posting this bonus video... I'm caught back up now.. smart idea cutting the cord! Thank ya for your time Mr. John!

  • @alexstools
    @alexstools ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done. Always nice getting an extra video!!

  • @chrislewellen4016
    @chrislewellen4016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I look forward to your videos every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Truly made my day when I saw you put one out today! Another great tutorial and great entertainment. Thanks for all you do.

  • @bobhart1155
    @bobhart1155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new and useful. Your generosity in creating these videos and graciously posting them here is very much appreciated!

  • @philcappellini2820
    @philcappellini2820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found this video very informative as I am about to tear down my own electric motor. Thanks for the video!!

  • @bwayne40004
    @bwayne40004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I set my clock by ScoutCrafter. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. My system is upset now! A TUESDAY...FAIL!?! It will take a Wednesday, Friday, Monday to recover!
    We had a ton of electric motors when we farmed. And I didn't know beans about much of anything back then. I remember helping replace one or two, usually in the dead of winter on a ladder working at the end of an elevator. The end outside. These motor vids are interesting.

  • @billmccabe9601
    @billmccabe9601 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great learning video. Thanks again!

  • @bobbyw9046
    @bobbyw9046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You didn't fail - it was just a burned out motor - not your fault. I find the best source of great motors are when a neighbor or relative tosses out an old washing machine. I've never had a washer motor go bad, it's usually the electronics or control panel. I have motors from old washers that I have been using for 35-40 years and still going strong. I do agree with you - if the cord is missing or cut - PASS!

  • @jrl4u2
    @jrl4u2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was just looking for tear down, found a bearing issue, but I enjoyed your video. If I ever start doing videos I will need to find the hand on a stick. Very helpful and cute.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant Mate!! Ya gotta love a good smoke test eh!!☻

  • @rachaelb9164
    @rachaelb9164 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much. You just saved me a lot of time and headache trying to replace bearings on a dead motor. OMG this thing has been running continuously for a while. It’s a miracle my garage didn’t burn down but I always had a fan blowing on the motor because duh it always ran hot. It’s almost this same exact model and used to run a Lortone rock tumbler with three 12 lb barrels.

  • @lotsabirds
    @lotsabirds ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great surprise! I'm glad to see an extra video! Have a great night !

  • @SpringRubber
    @SpringRubber ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome info and now I don't feel so bad letting the service guy take away my motor after one of the appliances failed. Per one of your previous vid's I bought the book "Basics of Fractional Horsepower Motors and Repair" by Gerald Schweitzer. Had to wait for a few months because when you mention something the price spikes.

  • @americansewingmachineresto1545
    @americansewingmachineresto1545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great extra credit video. Would be interested to measure the windings with a meter and see if you can measure to demonstrate the issue. Thanks for the extra enjoyment.
    Best Regards,
    John

  • @TJB1510
    @TJB1510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW - BEAUTIFUL BLUE SKY ON THE ISLAND.

  • @danieldumaine6139
    @danieldumaine6139 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. I found the disassembly of the motor very interesting.

  • @ianbutler1983
    @ianbutler1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suspect the inertial switch failed to work and the heavy starting current was left applied to the heavy starting windings. The excessive current flow burned out the windings. It is probably running on the starter windings. Thanks John.

  • @jackthompson2132
    @jackthompson2132 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think we have all bought something that we end up using for parts 😂. However it was a great show and I did learn something. Thank You for sharing John!

  • @negotiableaffections
    @negotiableaffections ปีที่แล้ว

    In no way, a fail. An all round success, in my mind. So it couldn't be made to work but thats not a fail, its what all your effort was for; determining the viability of a machine. Cheers John.

  • @melkc345
    @melkc345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks John. We all needed this. Jim

  • @lewiemcneely9143
    @lewiemcneely9143 ปีที่แล้ว

    This must be us on the same wavelength! Toots wants a hand mower she can start so she can trim. I have a 2010 Troy-bilt with electric start. Got the electric start working fine BUT after the mower starts, it won't restart till it sits a bit.THEN you have to lay the ether to it because the primer don't work. I'd cut the cord but it goes to the charger for the battery. See, you're not by yourself, Johnny! God Bless!

  • @lotsatrains
    @lotsatrains ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great lesson 👍 and on a Tuesday too wow 🤩

  • @wayneo7307
    @wayneo7307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Explanation Scout . It Does Show You Can't Win Them All. Looking Forward to Tomorrow.

  • @andrewtaylor7377
    @andrewtaylor7377 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa! I got worried when I saw your video pop up on a Tuesday 😂. I thought something was wrong. Glad you're OK!

  • @corymcgrath5652
    @corymcgrath5652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice treat, a Tuesday upload. Brightens my day.

  • @michaeld9731
    @michaeld9731 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry this motor didn’t work out, but it was very educational to see. Thanks for the special edition! 👍

  • @larrydemaar409
    @larrydemaar409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worth a try, thanks for showing it to us. Oh, well.

  • @carldelawter8900
    @carldelawter8900 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandparents had this identical type motor on their downdraft gas furnace blower assembly.
    I serviced it for 30+yrs before I moved to FL & the younger grandkids took over that duty.

  • @alansmith4734
    @alansmith4734 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Speaking of fails, I saw a video yesterday from the UK where a guy wanted to restore an air compressor. The tank had so much rust inside, that when he cleaned out the rust, there was a hole in the tank side! =(

    • @kevinbreckenridge6729
      @kevinbreckenridge6729 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did that with a fuel tank. I told the boss, "if it's not broken don't fix it, fuel filters are cheap" ...he didn't listen!

    • @alansmith4734
      @alansmith4734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinbreckenridge6729 I saw a picture of a fuel pump that a customer installed themselves in a fuel tank. They must have left the plastic bag on, that is placed over the pump at the factory. Brilliant!
      Video: Start @ 1 min. 12 seconds to see the pump. th-cam.com/video/IeB0EZmxT8M/w-d-xo.html

  • @namleets57
    @namleets57 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate an extra video this week. Today is my birthday so it was a great way to celebrate

  • @terryrogers1025
    @terryrogers1025 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good tutorial on electric motors sir, I like it. Thanks for the video.

  • @mishmoshshop1929
    @mishmoshshop1929 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey John, what a special treat. tks Mimmo

  • @patrickomalley7460
    @patrickomalley7460 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again I learned something from your great videos thanks

  • @beerdrinker6452
    @beerdrinker6452 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a great teacher. Thank you.

  • @enverhoxha4531
    @enverhoxha4531 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought it was Wednesday for a second

  • @stevenwitt4028
    @stevenwitt4028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video 👍 Loved seeing another motor tear down. Great information on what to look out for when you have a suspected bad motor. Did those windings give off that electrical burnt smell when you pulled it open? You are right you take a chance when find or you buy motors like that. But I still like to take them apart and to see if it can be serviced or what actually went wrong with it. Well maybe you can save some of the parts if you run into another one just like that one. You might find one on the Poor Mans Flea Market 😂👍👍. Speaking of the Poor Mans Flea Market, what a fantastic find of all those drill bits made by Whitman and Barnes,looks like all great quality USA 🇺🇸 drill bits,again fantastic find. Great shot of Old Glory 🇺🇸 blowing in breeze. Well again great video and can’t wait to see what you do tomorrow. Have a fantastic evening! 😃👍👍

    • @ScoutCrafter
      @ScoutCrafter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steven- Surprisingly there was no burnt smell on this motor! I always check for that. 😂👍

  • @ditullioa
    @ditullioa ปีที่แล้ว

    Always learning something new. Thanks.

  • @johnarmstrong5953
    @johnarmstrong5953 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I watch I learn a little something. Thanks!

  • @GuntersGarage
    @GuntersGarage ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a win win. You got to check it out and got a parts motor too. For a second I thought that was nice of the manufacturer to color code the winding 😂

    • @ScoutCrafter
      @ScoutCrafter  ปีที่แล้ว

      😂. Yes! A dark blue primary would be a nice contrast. I can’t believe this motor had no smell of burning wire. 🤔😃👍

  • @paulsworkshop4179
    @paulsworkshop4179 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great bonus episode!

  • @toolrestoration
    @toolrestoration ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great John , nice to show the fails , and you do indeed learn from them . I've never had luck tearing them down , always very fragile inside not like yours !! I don't bother with motors any more , only ever managed to fix one , that's because I knew before hand it was a capacitor so was a simple change . Gotta laugh everytime you say bellends ... Really don't fancy a glancing blow with a hammer on the bellend ....

  • @westhighlandsshop
    @westhighlandsshop ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video, as usual! Have learned a lot from you over the last few years, thank you!

  • @larrynelson734
    @larrynelson734 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Great information .👍👍❤...

  • @rawbacon
    @rawbacon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tore apart one of those newer washing machine motors just to see what makes it tick and save a few parts including the shaft, round stock is always handy. Those are not made to be serviced, they seem to be spot welded and made to never come apart just replaced.

  • @andyc972
    @andyc972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this John, useful to know !

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job John,

  • @marklangkamp3151
    @marklangkamp3151 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this, just learning myself.

  • @davidchristensen6908
    @davidchristensen6908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow a special ScoutCrafter video. Let’s get right to it!

  • @JCTyler64
    @JCTyler64 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that is some really good information!

  • @13thworker45
    @13thworker45 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I come across a bad motor, it goes into the recycle barrel. All useable parts I keep. My two young daughters collect all the recycling money. We can’t save them all. Thank You

    • @ScoutCrafter
      @ScoutCrafter  ปีที่แล้ว

      Jess- The stands come in handy. 😃👍

  • @saigaking
    @saigaking ปีที่แล้ว

    Was nice to see a fail I always say you learn more from your mistakes than your successes
    Love it god bless take care 👍🙏🦅🇺🇸🗽🇳🇿🪖

  • @larryborkstrom3580
    @larryborkstrom3580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unlike DC motors the field Coils easier to remove and replace its a good parts motor

  • @TheShadeTreeFixitMan
    @TheShadeTreeFixitMan ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video and very informative. Thanks

  • @LevBeriv
    @LevBeriv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that pointer

  • @foxwood67
    @foxwood67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always initial it NFG to save somebody else from the headache I experienced. 😂

  • @barryhunt5357
    @barryhunt5357 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video SC!!!!!!!

  • @SteveMcQuillin
    @SteveMcQuillin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    By major coincidence someone will throw out a motor for the poors mans fleamarket with a cracked housing or bent shaft or something this week. We can only hope😄

  • @gigaphonicon
    @gigaphonicon ปีที่แล้ว

    A Tuesday video?! My weeks been improved!

  • @rogeramjet0073
    @rogeramjet0073 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Very nice video. I have a quite old 1 HP 115/230 VAC Dayton "Power Capacitor Motor" from my dad's Craftsman table saw, but it does not have an external capacitor. It has an integral power switch, but was modified to be turned On/Off by an external switch.
    I found that there is a 110 V potential from the saw frame to earth ground which makes it quite a hazard.
    The model is KS 73 BT-217, but have searched to no end to get its specs. I want to remove the end housing where the wiring is located to try to determine the source of the short.
    Any suggestions/comments are welcomed. Thanks in advance.
    Roger B

  • @bobjoncas2814
    @bobjoncas2814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    .SOME NEED A LITTLE MORE FINE TUNING THAN OTHERS..LOL..GOOD ONE, KEEP WELL...

  • @Everythings_Adjustable
    @Everythings_Adjustable ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting fail 🛠👍😊

  • @joeheilm
    @joeheilm ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a megometer to test the insulation on electric motors. I bought it specifically for flea market motor shopping....it sounded like a great idea at the time, but i never really trusted the readings. Cheers

    • @ScoutCrafter
      @ScoutCrafter  ปีที่แล้ว

      😂. Same here! Those readings can be all over the place. 😃👍

  • @Reggyontheroad
    @Reggyontheroad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotcha watching

  • @tonysheerness2427
    @tonysheerness2427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one can be 100% lucky all the time.

  • @danceswithaardvarks3284
    @danceswithaardvarks3284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1/3 hp motor, but 115v x 6.6 amps should be almost 1 hp? I must be missing something.

  • @OldSneelock
    @OldSneelock ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a grinder motor wih a similar problem.
    MIne has a starter relay that shuts off the starting winding once it reaches a set speed. The relay burned out and I can't find a new one. I could put a manual switch in the control circuit to shut off the starting winding. Not sure if it is worth the trouble. 😁😁😎😎

  • @tanathos0414
    @tanathos0414 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would have loved to see a rewinding of the burned coil to make it useable again.

  • @aliboluk6313
    @aliboluk6313 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Japonlar teknolojik alanda gerçekten harika. Tanıtımınız için teşeklürler.

  • @Oldtimeytools
    @Oldtimeytools ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We get extra content!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @ke6bnl
    @ke6bnl ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you need to do a megging on these motors and cords

  • @edp9743
    @edp9743 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good sniff with the nose will often tell if the windings are toast. Start windings and run windings.

    • @ScoutCrafter
      @ScoutCrafter  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! I always sniff a motor before buying and did this one too but it had no burnt smell whatsoever! It got me good! 😂👍

  • @dreamlookautodetailingauto3353
    @dreamlookautodetailingauto3353 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know much about motors but would appreciate your advice...
    I would like to get a 1/4 hp motor for continuous use. I would be running this motor all day, everyday for long time. I'm making a rock tumbler & using it to tumble rocks. This will be running for weeks at a time 24 hour a day. I don't know if I need a single phase motor. Or if there are motors with built in fans within the motor to keep it cool? I heard Dayton or Marathon motors are good. Any advice
    Or input on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 😎

  • @kevinbreckenridge6729
    @kevinbreckenridge6729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even though you are "the cord cutter" I agree, electric issue, cut the cord. Mechanical issue, maybe somebody else can figure it out.

  • @donl1410
    @donl1410 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's thermally protected, so at some point the thermal should open and shut down the motor.

  • @alanmullock381
    @alanmullock381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bell-end plus mallet??????😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @krishoogstraat6866
    @krishoogstraat6866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you check the draw of amperage where the power cord hooks up on the motor? Using your voltage meter ? I think mine has an amp measurement on it .?? But is there a way to check if you don’t have that measurement tool you have John.

    • @ScoutCrafter
      @ScoutCrafter  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hook! Yes there is, I will cover it soon. 😃👍

  • @anthonyellis8043
    @anthonyellis8043 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello what does this motor do?

  • @samfeldman1508
    @samfeldman1508 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was burnt worse than a Friar’s Club Roast.😜🤪

  • @jonway7845
    @jonway7845 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can always learn from a failure.

  • @lugwrench9832
    @lugwrench9832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next up ---- Kilowatt Meters

  • @majmarkbrown7816
    @majmarkbrown7816 ปีที่แล้ว

    what did you use to see how much amperage it was drawing?

    • @ScoutCrafter
      @ScoutCrafter  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a small devise called a Kill-a-watt I will demonstrate it this week. 😃👍

    • @rawbacon
      @rawbacon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kill-A-Watt Meter, they display watts, amps, voltage and such. About $30 or so.

  • @Sanjidaarmy
    @Sanjidaarmy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haii❤

  • @tonylenge424
    @tonylenge424 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting but too bad.

  • @SachsVDE
    @SachsVDE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What the Heck..!!😂😅

  • @primewatch7432
    @primewatch7432 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If electric motors require oil, does that mean you need to take an EV car to get its oil changed?

  • @primewatch7432
    @primewatch7432 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is your hand so small and why does it look plastic? Why does your arm look wooden?