Twomad didn’t even dodge Hassan, he waited on stream to be let into Hassan’s stream but he just got ignored. Regardless of where you sit politically Hassan just comes off as so unlikeable and narcissistic.
Twomad is a complete wildcard and chaotic neutral in almost everything he's done. Seeing him talking about politics is so surreal, that it just becomes more prove for his unpredictability.
@@jamesabestos2800 ? Twomad with obliterate hasan in a debate because hasan gets too hung up on things that aren't even that big of a deal like yeah you have private company convinced CDC so what it's not a bad thing, that is not corruption in the slightest. 10 days was way too much and caused a lot of problems for people. 5 days makes a lot more sense. Also people need to accept for now on everyone will probably get covid once in their life. Covid it is not leaving But that doesn't mean that we have to stay home either two things can exist at once you know.
One of my biggest issues with Hassan is that he is constantly being hypocritical, like when people on the right say their conspiracy theorists he would call them nut jobs. Dude has zero self awareness
Another problem with him is he talks about racism and how big a deal it is when he's bigoted and when his uncle Cenk Uyger named his company after Genocide
Uhh, Optimus said in the video that Hassan’s claim is nowhere near the same level as Alex Jones level conspiracies. Hassan’s claim isn’t even a conspiracy theory really…
Optimus you are just wrong, you missed a key moment of the story where twomad went live on twitch for like 5 hours and waited patiently for hasan to join his private discord server that he dmmed him a link to. and hasan never joined. he was also live on twitch the whole time and even AUTO-Timed out anyone in his chat who typed the word "twomad" for 24 hours!!!!!!!!
If you even consider arguing Twomad, then you've pretty much already lost. The man is going to meme and shitpost you into oblivion. It will be terrible for Hasan if he continues it further, but hilarious for the rest of us.
There are very few instances of twomad being serious, when he is he's usually correct I'm not one for American politics.. I mean I'm an Irishman after all, our version of politics are just bombing the other guy's car so I don't know, what I do know... It's probably embarrassing to be confronted by a walking meme and losing
@@mrmemes3887 This exact scenario. He mocked everyone for saying that the CDC was colluding with big business. Then, he says exactly the same thing. But since it's him that is saying it, then it's all true and everyone else is wrong. Also, he claims to be a communist, while avoiding taxes in his 3 million dollar mansion in Hollywood. I could go on and on, but I have a feeling I will just waste my time trying to convince you.
People like Hasan can still use racism as an excuse in these situations. They'll call people race traitors because they don't talk about politics based on their skin color and instead with research and experiences.
@@Ari-ww3fv yeah I watched it, he couldn't call Twomad a mayo monkeh so he claimed twomad was clout chasing despite twomad having double the followers he has in general
Twomad literally didn’t have an argument. Saying the CDC was influenced by business to get people vaccinated created vs the CDC was influenced by business to reduce and remove quarantine restrictions sound the same but are different in one aspect. That aspect being health was prioritized in the 1st example, a lack of caring about health is prioritized in the 2nd.
@@Ari-ww3fv you mean cenk’s nephew, who’s does nothing but steals people content on twitch and says America deserves curtain day if you know what I mean and who’s uncle company named after genocide
Anyone with a platform can be cancelled, you just have to win over their fanbase against them. You could cancel twomad if you exposed him for an actual crime
So hassan is arguing for LONGER quarantine times.... of course he does. He can say stay home all he wants when he lives in a $3million mansion. He doesn't care that other people have to actually work to survive.
I don't know but if a government can't provide food and shelter for it's citizens in a worldwide pandemic, IF people have to chose between paying rent or staying safe. I don't think that's a good government
@@unaihmg9352 No government can do that. That's literally antithetical to capitalism. At most a system where the government can provide food single handedly with full control would last months, and that would require the seizure of the means of production. Essentially, they can pump money into public aid and make crazy inflation, or put a gun to food producers heads and tell them to work for free. Spoiler alert, we already got the inflation.
He’s a twitch streamer I don’t think it makes a difference to him if quarantine is longer if anything he’d make more since there’d be more idiots at home that’ll watch him stream.
Ya know I don't think Hasan, the guy who said America deserved 911, has the best interests of the American people in mind, so I kind of dismiss 90% of whatever he says and mock relentlessly the other 10%
You don’t know what you’re talking about and that clip was taken out of context. He went on to say that we deserved it after the foreign policy disaster and said that it wasn’t fair for Americans to suffer because of the governments actions
8:20 This is the truest thing ever...I tuned in to a Hasan stream where he watched someone talking about their side of the drama that they're in and before the video was even past 10 seconds, his chat was just calling the person wrong. But guess what happened after.....Hasan said he agreed with the person's pov, and his chat did a 180° and was like, "O-Oh me too, I also agree with you Hasan. This person deserves justice." Like c'mon people...dont let streamers and TH-camrs be your voice of opinion until *you* yourself actually take the time to form your own.
You couldn’t beat TwoMad cause he couldn’t use the “you’re being (insert literally anything here)ist” specifically racist. It’s kinda funny he got owned by someone you’d never expect to be qualified for this.
- The covid pandemic was planned. - Big corporations are influencing the decision making of government agencies for their own benefit. These are comparable to you?
this isnt really to do with progressive or conservative politics its more about how much trust u have in your own government and we know that they arent linked because on both sides of the spectrum we see people have these anti authority conspiracy theories. you know i wouldnt say flat earthers fit into one side of the spectrum (left or right) and i think thats a good thing because it means that people can look at different controversies and have an objective take free of bias from where they happen to stand politically on other issues. i hope we move away from this trend of trying to fit everything into this oversimplified left wing, right wing division and giving independent people incredibly vague labels, i dont think its beneficial for our ability to think freely and independently come to conclusions. and it prevents people from taking logical, honest and accurate positions on any singular debate.
to be fair, hasan’s theory is a lot more based in reality than a lot of typical conspiracy theories - corporations and governments scratch each others backs all the time, why wouldnt they do it here?
You got a fact wrong. Twomad actually launched a stream and wanted to debate Hasan, but Hasan didn't want to and banned anyone saying twomad in chat for 24 hours lol
I get why twomad originally argued with him tbh. I feel like Hasan's credibility is completely in the toilet, I'd assume everything he says is said in bad faith either way
Yeah it’s wild that it’s coming out they’re apart of a federal psyops. Vuash has joked about being a fed informant, contrapoints is from an intelligence family. I thought it was weird the government was allowing so many to take up an anti American view points, but it makes sense they want the authoritarians to take over.
Lobbying needs to be a thing, yeah both of them aren't insanely smart, but twomad is smarter, lobbying needs to be a thing for fair treatment to smaller corporations such as corner shops, and ect..
The entire government system in US is for profit. All your congressmen and representatives are in some way purchased by lobbyists and usually influenced by corporations. Indeed. Immediately shooting down the possibility and having excessive faith in your institutions is problematic in and of themselves. It's almost like both of these "entertainers" know nothing about Merck's hitlist a decade ago, Surgisphere's fabricated data and how lobbying influences many policies today. Claiming any public sector to be "independent" and not influenced by private interests is incredibly disingenuous.
I loved the fact twomad seemed the more articulate out of the two with his tweets coming off yk not like a tweet😂 while Hassan’s just were more woke stuff you can find all over Twitter
@@redking36 Twomad WAS trolling. He didn't actually believe those things, and was messing with him. He said it on his stream himself. He tricked some idiots, though.
I work for a big company and yes they hate the covid guidelines because it hurts company numbers. Theres been countless times where they ask people who have covid, to come to work and just keep quiet about it. Its gotten to a point where when people get covid they dont even inform anyone anymore.
@@Rounderyathecruel that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do everything in our power to stop it, just because I might not be at risk of death doesn’t mean others aren’t, and just because I can’t die doesn’t mean I want it. I’m sure you wouldn’t die if you got a fever, but do you want one?
Honestly lockdowns have done more harm than good, they locked down healthy people when a lot of old people at risk were already staying home. They’ve led to more depression and suicides and overall is gonna leave more people on welfare.
Every time I've tuned in to Hasan he just watching vids and his YT content isn't as transformative either, at least twomad is making content as cancer as some of it is.
dont care about the drama, but i never liked hasan and still dont. edit: still dont care about the drama, but he literally just ignored the context of the post and replied either not understanding what twomad was saying or willfully ignored it at 7:40, his response makes no sense
Who would win?: A tanned “dEbAtE mE bRo” who uses family members fame and success to gain something that he can’t get by himself or One thicc chocolate boi with glasses that’s been a walking meme since the day of time?
I agree a bit on two mads point that he’s saying why criticize conservatives earlier in the pandemic for not trusting cdc, but now flipping the script and saying we don’t trust them because of this new thing.
Which is weird. I never trusted them because I knew this had the potential to make the pharmaceutical companies trillions as no one would waver the patients in a global pandemic (especially for the third world)
because cdc went on record saying they reduced the amount of days for economic reasons, this isn't a baseless theory like conservatives like to throw up earlier in the pandemic
@@chiuansheng When did I say they didnt??? Like how you did get that out of comment its so unrelated, but yes they always but when they did they always justified it with data and studies on the reason why, this change is purely in the interest of the economy. Fauci went on an interview yesterday and even confirmed.
3:20 Twomad just gave a really well thought out and intelligent response from Hasan's hottake. The man is way smarter then what people take credit for.
The moment twomad uses two brain cells instead of one he just becomes a different person. It's like the Spongebob episode when Patrick fell off the cliff and replaced his brain with a smarter one
Wow I didn't expect that last dig at Hasan's relationship with his uncle Cenk Uygur. I hope twomad getting into politics doesn't end up like JonTron because America didn't deserve 9/11
Politics aside, Hasan is an extremely angry individual inside and comes off as super negative. I don't see the appeal. Even if you're a leftist, there are much more relatable streamers out there.
Yep. I knew as soon as this was announced that news outlets and people on the internet would leave out the asymptomatic part. Whether that’s intentional or not, I don’t know
Not sure how that would make much of a difference to be honest. Majority of cases are either minor symptoms or the worse passes after the 3rd day and people start going back to normal with fatigue. It’s common sense that if you feel like you’re dying 5 days later you shouldn’t be walking around and I wouldn’t know why you would feel the need to anyway
People were probably pushing for this change a while back, but the doctors and virus specialists finally feel confident in the move now so they have done it.
WHO said "No country can boost their way out of this pandemic, everyone will get covid at some point. Rich countries need to share vaccines with poor countries to stop so many variants"
@@proud_emmerian6510 look I'm not saying they are perfect but the CDC actually also said more then 3 boosters can HARM your immune system. Of course Pfizer is still burying fact for that mighty $
I'm still baffled how this guy got that big on twitch... Jinx(and others) back in the day got justifiably a lot of sh*t for simply stealing content by "reacting" to it. And now this hack does exactly the same and nobody bats an eye.
@@spaceghost8886 Oh wow, I didnt know he was actually turkish. That just makes me hate their company more. They deny the armenian and greek genocides, dont they?
@@KozakuraRabbit yes, I don’t agree with him on a lot but he was the first left leaning TH-camr I saw and that opened the door to other more reasonable left leaning creators to me
@@Aryam007 that's a contradiction there's no reasonable people these people never as he speaking reason or actually bring facts or describe their positions in detail
Game journos trying to pass as sociopolitical commenters, people arguing about politics with meme accounts, and peeps like Optimus here doing a better journalistic work than the mainstream. Wild times, innit?
Well I tried to comment something about what you said at around 6:00 but i can't youtube keeps deleting it, so you will get my super generic comment instead.. Great Video Optimus !
You guys in the comments are all idiots for thinking Twomad was serious. He literally just typed a bunch of modern political buzzwords because it's based and quirky. This is just your average Twomad. No he didn't """own""" Hasan, and he also didn't "bring up Hasan hypocrisy". He was legit just trolling Hasan and his community. In other words, you got trolled too.
No he actually wanted a debate, funny I don't think you watched the streams, as twomad sat waiting for an hour trying to get Hasan in a discord, but Hasan said Destiny was behind all of it (Because Hasan is traumatized)
If you actually watched twomads stream you would know that twomad was trying to get an actual debate and hasan dodged claiming he was only doing it for the clout. Twomads point was that Hasan is a hypocrite as he will call right wingers nut jobs for promoting what is pretty much the same conspiracy as he is.
First I'm not sure that we should automatically view corporations influencing government as bad. They should be able to advocate for themselves. It allows us to find issues with laws. I believe that corporations often don't have the average person's interests in mind, but the reality is that these corporations represent people with their own interests, and so they should be listened to. And I don't think that the narrative of businesses having complete power over government is true. While there is disproportionate influence, it is more nuanced than corporations paying politicians to do what the corporations want. In addition, I think that there's a double standard. I think people are ignoring the fact that big pharma also influenced the government. The more fearmongering about the pandemic, the more money they make. Once again, I don't think this influence is necessarily bad, it just shows the hypocrisy in the argument.
With the current administration's ways of handling things, and how lax alot of them are being with their partners and freinds in comerce, it isn't far fetched to believe delta strong armed the CDC along with governors. However I will reserve that opinion as an assumption till we get actual evidence to support it.
Regardless of who you simp for, who amongst you was inclined to believe CDC can't can't be influenced by Capitalist in cutting corners? Cutting corners isn't the same level as "plandemic", which suggested CDC had prior knowledge of covid.
Never imagined that these two would ever interact with each other
Ever lol
I got the noti for this video and immediate started laughing because of how outlandish it would be seeing these 2 interact
I dont even know who these guys are
@@ArcaellusV427 Twomad is the guy who went to a BTS concert with a photoshopped photo of the lead singer as the president of China.
@@yolopup1237 oh you mean Winnie the {REMOVED}
[This Reply Is Chinese Terrorism]
Twomad getting involved in politics is something I would’ve never expected to happen.
yeah. it’s like a college football star trying to enlist in the NBA draft
Hasan is a brat
@@aabahdjfisosososos hasan might be your father bruh
@@ApolloTheUltimate idk I could see something like that happening some talented mfs out there
@@jamaicanwoman9375 maybe
TwoMad literally crashed a BTS concert, this man is immune to drama.
TwoMad is based
They are STILL trying to sue him
@@IDoABitOfTrollin who BTS?
@@IDoABitOfTrollin bts fans
@@platinumdiamond7 no the fans
Twomad didn’t even dodge Hassan, he waited on stream to be let into Hassan’s stream but he just got ignored. Regardless of where you sit politically Hassan just comes off as so unlikeable and narcissistic.
He doesnt come off as a narcissist cause he IS a narcissist.
Also the man of steal on people content on twitch which almost all of his streams are
I don’t even agree with Twomad or Hasan here and I still think Twomad shouldn’t debate him, Hasan can’t debate a ham sandwich to save his life.
facts
He's a delusional socialist I honestly don't know what people were expecting
Imagine getting owned on Twitter by a man who's known for taking Belle Delphine body pillows to his local McDonalds.
Twomad is battling Hasan of all people. He would face more resistance if he battled a bloody rock.
to be fair, Hasan would have lost arguing against the body pillow, much less Twomad
He wasn’t owned...
Being a joke is much different than making jokes
@@myfather_F that’s why he said imagine
Twomad is a complete wildcard and chaotic neutral in almost everything he's done. Seeing him talking about politics is so surreal, that it just becomes more prove for his unpredictability.
That's why you always don't play the wildcard
@@jamesabestos2800 a wild card Will be better than having a terrible card
@@malachiromero6077 'tease(to play)' my definition or perspective.
@@jamesabestos2800 ? Twomad with obliterate hasan in a debate because hasan gets too hung up on things that aren't even that big of a deal like yeah you have private company convinced CDC so what it's not a bad thing, that is not corruption in the slightest. 10 days was way too much and caused a lot of problems for people. 5 days makes a lot more sense. Also people need to accept for now on everyone will probably get covid once in their life. Covid it is not leaving But that doesn't mean that we have to stay home either two things can exist at once you know.
@@malachiromero6077
Don’t think neither hasan or twomad would “win” the debate. It’d just create more drama.
One of my biggest issues with Hassan is that he is constantly being hypocritical, like when people on the right say their conspiracy theorists he would call them nut jobs. Dude has zero self awareness
Huh
Another problem with him is he talks about racism and how big a deal it is when he's bigoted and when his uncle Cenk Uyger named his company after Genocide
Uhh, Optimus said in the video that Hassan’s claim is nowhere near the same level as Alex Jones level conspiracies. Hassan’s claim isn’t even a conspiracy theory really…
@@Ari-ww3fv Hasan theories are more of a brain farts than anything
@Logan Roof News So does the left they blame white people for everything.
Optimus you are just wrong, you missed a key moment of the story where twomad went live on twitch for like 5 hours and waited patiently for hasan to join his private discord server that he dmmed him a link to. and hasan never joined. he was also live on twitch the whole time and even AUTO-Timed out anyone in his chat who typed the word "twomad" for 24 hours!!!!!!!!
proof?
yup i was there for that whole stream lol
@geoduck no? like a vod or something
@@asimple bowblax’s video and augie’s stream show this, even showcasing the 24 hour time out. Literally one search can get you this info
Hasan watching MasterChef
If you even consider arguing Twomad, then you've pretty much already lost. The man is going to meme and shitpost you into oblivion.
It will be terrible for Hasan if he continues it further, but hilarious for the rest of us.
I doubt that, hasan has a bigger fanbase and has ratiod twomad on like every post.
I like your idea
@@SquidwardProfilePic does that mean he's correct? Because a bunch of twittards agrees with what he says?
@The Lieutenant gee, thanks for making my point more obvious. I worded it like I did for a reason
@@SquidwardProfilePic TwoMad is smarter than Hasan, and Hasan does this for a job, it's pretty sad
There are very few instances of twomad being serious, when he is he's usually correct
I'm not one for American politics.. I mean I'm an Irishman after all, our version of politics are just bombing the other guy's car so I don't know, what I do know... It's probably embarrassing to be confronted by a walking meme and losing
Maybe that explains why we like the Irish so much
Wish we could do that in Poland
lol
@@rafalrzeszotko bro Poland is BASED though
Come out ya Black and Tans!
The point is not about Hasan being right or wrong, but about how full of hypocrisy and double standards he is.
Name one. I have my problems with hasan but I’d love to hear what you have to say
@@mrmemes3887 This exact scenario. He mocked everyone for saying that the CDC was colluding with big business. Then, he says exactly the same thing. But since it's him that is saying it, then it's all true and everyone else is wrong.
Also, he claims to be a communist, while avoiding taxes in his 3 million dollar mansion in Hollywood.
I could go on and on, but I have a feeling I will just waste my time trying to convince you.
@@mrmemes3887 you got your cheeks clapped and ratio'd simultaneously
@@mrmemes3887 ratio
@@mrmemes3887 dude bought a 3 million dollar mansion while simultaneously wearing "eat the rich" merch.
He's a walking bruh moment
You see Hassan is very confused because he can’t rely on “muh racism” for an argument and has to use logical thinking skills against twomad.
People like Hasan can still use racism as an excuse in these situations. They'll call people race traitors because they don't talk about politics based on their skin color and instead with research and experiences.
Did you watch the video or do you just hate Hassan?
@@Ari-ww3fv yeah I watched it, he couldn't call Twomad a mayo monkeh so he claimed twomad was clout chasing despite twomad having double the followers he has in general
Twomad literally didn’t have an argument. Saying the CDC was influenced by business to get people vaccinated created vs the CDC was influenced by business to reduce and remove quarantine restrictions sound the same but are different in one aspect.
That aspect being health was prioritized in the 1st example, a lack of caring about health is prioritized in the 2nd.
@@Ari-ww3fv you mean cenk’s nephew, who’s does nothing but steals people content on twitch and says America deserves curtain day if you know what I mean and who’s uncle company named after genocide
Literally can't cancel Twomad.
Don’t see why anyone would want to cancel him for this.
hes my father
Anyone with a platform can be cancelled, you just have to win over their fanbase against them. You could cancel twomad if you exposed him for an actual crime
he's too powerful to be left alive
@@blitzn00dle50 nah, you can't cancel someone who doesn't care.
Imagine being at such a low point In your life that you unironically get triggered that twomad isn’t hopping on twitch to debate you in politics
I'm kinda convinced that twomad may have been trolling hasan the whole time
@@WitheredDayZz sounds like a twomad thing to do
I was watching twomad's stream when this was happening he wanted to debate Hasan but Hasan was to busy watching Master Chef for 6 hours straight.
@@Ko_clips but hes not really tho, don't think im defending him but that's more Destiny's role.
@@Ko_clips he isn't tho?
Wait Twomad is a person with opinions and feelings? AINT NO WAY
So hassan is arguing for LONGER quarantine times.... of course he does. He can say stay home all he wants when he lives in a $3million mansion. He doesn't care that other people have to actually work to survive.
I don't know but if a government can't provide food and shelter for it's citizens in a worldwide pandemic, IF people have to chose between paying rent or staying safe. I don't think that's a good government
@@unaihmg9352 No government can do that. That's literally antithetical to capitalism. At most a system where the government can provide food single handedly with full control would last months, and that would require the seizure of the means of production. Essentially, they can pump money into public aid and make crazy inflation, or put a gun to food producers heads and tell them to work for free. Spoiler alert, we already got the inflation.
@@courier4529 and we also saw what happens when the goverment takes over production aka the soviet union
@@unaihmg9352 Its impossible to feed and house 300 million people for three years for free.
He’s a twitch streamer I don’t think it makes a difference to him if quarantine is longer if anything he’d make more since there’d be more idiots at home that’ll watch him stream.
Twomad didn't dodge going on Hasan's stream, he asked Hasan to join his stream while Hasan was watching MasterChef
Fr, Twomad was literally DMing H3H3 to tell him to talk to Hassan because Hasan was ignoring Twomads DM’s.
@@graysteel and then H3H3 came out against twomad bc Hasan and H3H3 are lovers apparently
@@graysteel what's DM?
@@pichanao1069 Direct Messaging
@@justsomedangerbigfootwithweb Thank you
Ya know I don't think Hasan, the guy who said America deserved 911, has the best interests of the American people in mind, so I kind of dismiss 90% of whatever he says and mock relentlessly the other 10%
You don’t know what you’re talking about and that clip was taken out of context. He went on to say that we deserved it after the foreign policy disaster and said that it wasn’t fair for Americans to suffer because of the governments actions
@@mrmemes3887 oh so he wasn't joking about America deserving 911.
@@mrmemes3887 innocent civilians deserved to die in a terrorist attack because of a foreign policy issue? What kind of brain dead logic is that?
@@mrmemes3887 Ah, makes sense. So he said we deserved it, and then said we didn't deserve it. Yeah that sounds totally reasonable within context.
@@mrmemes3887 that's still horrible
I don't agree with Twomad, but I'll side with him since I find Hasan annoying
same
same
same
Twomad most likely agrees with Hassan but he's bringing up Hassan's hypocrisy
Based
Hasan:
Thrives of of others content.
Unfunny.
Dumb.
Giant Hipocryte
Twomad:
Makes his own content.
Funny.
I pick the funny man.
Also, TwoMad is based.
Which succesful twitch streamer doesn't currently thrive off of other's content?
@@dinglebop5700 maybe abolish twitch cos it's a massive cesspool of a platform.
@@DeathSkullY Then youtube would be banned too after reading this comment section
@@dinglebop5700 I don't see a problem with it
Twomad is a madlad, he's immune to controversy because he doesn't care
@tjuyftutjyfudt True 👍
what about that disguised toast dude
I really like how raw and unfiltered Optimus’s content is he just gets straight to the point and gives us his honest opinion
so true
This is exactly why I’m subscribed to Optimus
@Devin The Dude ok
Its more capitalizing on situations with watered down common sense takes but pop off
We shall fight for this name
There should be a compilation of every time Opti says “unfolded over on Twitter.”
or "you know what im saying" or "give it a buck 50"
@@Yoobster no no it's "keepin it a buck 50"😂
@@kingofcali0426 bro I heard him say it so much I forgot the phrasing💀
Should be also with "You know what im saying?"
"And what not "
A man who gets triggered easily vs someone who triggers people for FUN
IKR, imagine being so triggered that you respond to hasan out of all people
*stunlocked
8:20
This is the truest thing ever...I tuned in to a Hasan stream where he watched someone talking about their side of the drama that they're in and before the video was even past 10 seconds, his chat was just calling the person wrong. But guess what happened after.....Hasan said he agreed with the person's pov, and his chat did a 180° and was like, "O-Oh me too, I also agree with you Hasan. This person deserves justice."
Like c'mon people...dont let streamers and TH-camrs be your voice of opinion until *you* yourself actually take the time to form your own.
I agree, but danganronpa picture so I have to hate you
So basically sheeps, but they are lead by a Wolf
@@gagekellstrom3978 Okay?
@@AceOfSpades038 it's just the rules
@@gagekellstrom3978 it's the law
Haven't watched yet, but I already know Hasan's gonna be in the wrong
kek
surprisingly he was based.
@@1Phire ratio
Hasan doesn't understand the concept of transformative content on youtube and is a terrible reaction channel.
@@1Phire same and I dont even like the guy
You couldn’t beat TwoMad cause he couldn’t use the “you’re being (insert literally anything here)ist” specifically racist. It’s kinda funny he got owned by someone you’d never expect to be qualified for this.
Aw yes, when it's right wing, it's a "conspiracy theory", but when it's left wing, it's a "popular opinion". Got it.
Definitely.
- The covid pandemic was planned.
- Big corporations are influencing the decision making of government agencies for their own benefit.
These are comparable to you?
@@hughesjanus Yeah. The way OP framed it is reductionist in nature. What’s most important is the actual argument being made more than anything else.
this isnt really to do with progressive or conservative politics its more about how much trust u have in your own government and we know that they arent linked because on both sides of the spectrum we see people have these anti authority conspiracy theories.
you know i wouldnt say flat earthers fit into one side of the spectrum (left or right) and i think thats a good thing because it means that people can look at different controversies and have an objective take free of bias from where they happen to stand politically on other issues. i hope we move away from this trend of trying to fit everything into this oversimplified left wing, right wing division and giving independent people incredibly vague labels, i dont think its beneficial for our ability to think freely and independently come to conclusions. and it prevents people from taking logical, honest and accurate positions on any singular debate.
to be fair, hasan’s theory is a lot more based in reality than a lot of typical conspiracy theories - corporations and governments scratch each others backs all the time, why wouldnt they do it here?
7:43 according to Twomad, he continually tried getting into discord with Hasan during the stream, but he never joined his calls
Hasan started accusing him of clout chasing from what I remember, pretty funny ngl.
Yeah I was watching it live
@@the011darkwolf same
I never liked Hasan bro... Tom Dark is right about him
You got a fact wrong. Twomad actually launched a stream and wanted to debate Hasan, but Hasan didn't want to and banned anyone saying twomad in chat for 24 hours lol
Ain't no drama this is trolling on a Canadian Level
I'll do you one better this is trolling on a WINNIPEG level
Except if you're Shawn Michaels. Whose mere presence is an insult to Canadians.
@@irvinmorales1409 Idk who that is
What’s the difference between American trolling and Canadian trolling.
@@mememaster6082 he’s the heart break kid
I get why twomad originally argued with him tbh. I feel like Hasan's credibility is completely in the toilet, I'd assume everything he says is said in bad faith either way
Same
Yeah it’s wild that it’s coming out they’re apart of a federal psyops. Vuash has joked about being a fed informant, contrapoints is from an intelligence family. I thought it was weird the government was allowing so many to take up an anti American view points, but it makes sense they want the authoritarians to take over.
A leftist commentator with no integrity, what else, water is wet?
@@garybuttherissilent5896 destiny and mrgirl are all we have left 🙏🏻
Listen man, I don’t care what the situation I’m always on twomad’s side
Edit: btw isn’t the cdc like 45% funded by big pharma?
You realize you contradict yourself right? Lol
CDC cares about profit, not your well-being.
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What and you do?
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Yeah you right tho before you target me like the ATF
@@vicentesanchezjr.3877 Twomad agrees with Hassan, he was just pointing out hypocrisy
Man, wonder if Hasan and Twomad know the term "lobbying" because corporations have always been doing this.
Not just knowing the term "lobbying", but also know about the entire bureaucracy.
Lobbying needs to be a thing, yeah both of them aren't insanely smart, but twomad is smarter, lobbying needs to be a thing for fair treatment to smaller corporations such as corner shops, and ect..
The entire government system in US is for profit. All your congressmen and representatives are in some way purchased by lobbyists and usually influenced by corporations. Indeed. Immediately shooting down the possibility and having excessive faith in your institutions is problematic in and of themselves. It's almost like both of these "entertainers" know nothing about Merck's hitlist a decade ago, Surgisphere's fabricated data and how lobbying influences many policies today. Claiming any public sector to be "independent" and not influenced by private interests is incredibly disingenuous.
@@Misaka-gt5yj kinda right, but I hope you realize the right to lobby is insanely important, it's an amazing feature to the Citizens United Plan
@@clashyhm7687 The right to lobby is good, but it also causes a lot of problems. It's not black and white, there are good and bad things about it.
I loved the fact twomad seemed the more articulate out of the two with his tweets coming off yk not like a tweet😂 while Hassan’s just were more woke stuff you can find all over Twitter
I really didn’t expect it. The man of trolling has become the man of sense.
He's like all the others a sheep
@@redking36 Twomad WAS trolling. He didn't actually believe those things, and was messing with him. He said it on his stream himself. He tricked some idiots, though.
@@dinglebop5700 You a mind reader?
@@poppy63765 No. But clearly a better TwoMad fan than you
I work for a big company and yes they hate the covid guidelines because it hurts company numbers. Theres been countless times where they ask people who have covid, to come to work and just keep quiet about it. Its gotten to a point where when people get covid they dont even inform anyone anymore.
This is the reason why this pandemic is going strong, greedy people who want to throw peoples health under the bus so they can make more money
@@thiccchungo1041 you mean with a virus that really only threatens old people or ones with health conditions
@@Rounderyathecruel that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do everything in our power to stop it, just because I might not be at risk of death doesn’t mean others aren’t, and just because I can’t die doesn’t mean I want it. I’m sure you wouldn’t die if you got a fever, but do you want one?
@@thiccchungo1041 doesn’t mean I should have to stop my life. I should be able to continue my life as normal
Honestly lockdowns have done more harm than good, they locked down healthy people when a lot of old people at risk were already staying home. They’ve led to more depression and suicides and overall is gonna leave more people on welfare.
He’s trying to start drama with anyone just so he can avoid Sam Hyde. Imagine starting drama with Twomad KEK
Twomad Is better content creator than Hasan
hasanas only content is going on twitter and getting mald at the tweets, he talks about one tweet for 2 hours, his viewers are so braindead its insane
Every time I've tuned in to Hasan he just watching vids and his YT content isn't as transformative either, at least twomad is making content as cancer as some of it is.
Duh
@@sukho01 I mean commies aren't known for being intelligent
@@ZyloPhone based
dont care about the drama, but i never liked hasan and still dont.
edit: still dont care about the drama, but he literally just ignored the context of the post and replied either not understanding what twomad was saying or willfully ignored it at 7:40, his response makes no sense
Who would win?: A tanned “dEbAtE mE bRo” who uses family members fame and success to gain something that he can’t get by himself or One thicc chocolate boi with glasses that’s been a walking meme since the day of time?
I agree a bit on two mads point that he’s saying why criticize conservatives earlier in the pandemic for not trusting cdc, but now flipping the script and saying we don’t trust them because of this new thing.
Which is weird. I never trusted them because I knew this had the potential to make the pharmaceutical companies trillions as no one would waver the patients in a global pandemic (especially for the third world)
because cdc went on record saying they reduced the amount of days for economic reasons, this isn't a baseless theory like conservatives like to throw up earlier in the pandemic
@@christiana5453 Ah, the classic "well my belief is more right". What an infallible argument.
@@christiana5453 You mean that the same CDC has been changing their terms from the beginning?
@@chiuansheng When did I say they didnt??? Like how you did get that out of comment its so unrelated, but yes they always but when they did they always justified it with data and studies on the reason why, this change is purely in the interest of the economy. Fauci went on an interview yesterday and even confirmed.
3:20 Twomad just gave a really well thought out and intelligent response from Hasan's hottake. The man is way smarter then what people take credit for.
Based take ^
Yeah, I think a lot of people haven’t watched his Keemstar video
@@deletednet3919 true bc Noone watches keem
Imagine trying to get political with a professional memelord.
Twomad was the first one who responded....
@@astralgod6448 and Hasan escalated it
@@ColonizedEthan Bro what are you on? He just replied back.
Two mad was waiting on stream for Hasan to get on, but Hasan ignored him and was watching master chef the whole time lol
Haven’t even watched the video yet but twomad is right he’s always right kpop dictates his every move he can’t go wrong
The moment twomad uses two brain cells instead of one he just becomes a different person. It's like the Spongebob episode when Patrick fell off the cliff and replaced his brain with a smarter one
I never would've guessed that these two would get into drama together. Let alone interact with each other
Wow I didn't expect that last dig at Hasan's relationship with his uncle Cenk Uygur. I hope twomad getting into politics doesn't end up like JonTron because America didn't deserve 9/11
When hassan said that it was taken out of context but I don't agree with him
why what happened to jontron
Politics aside, Hasan is an extremely angry individual inside and comes off as super negative. I don't see the appeal. Even if you're a leftist, there are much more relatable streamers out there.
Alex Jones wasn't lying about the frogs though? Actually he wasn't wrong about alot of things that people shamed him for.
Shhhhh stop noticing things.
You mad
I love listening to this man rant, it’s so nice having it play in the background
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Hasan is a goofball. Twomad is a legend
We essentially have a dude who takes himself too seriously arguing with someone who couldn't care less.
twomad? Drama? Impossible.
Bro Ima just sit back and enjoy the drama cuz twomad can't be cancelled if BTS failed then Hasan has no chance
The level of detail and knowledge Twomad has on all of it despite his content is what got me.
Hasanabi is a clown. Plain and simple
Jesus you really make these videos as long as possible
When hasan can’t call his opponent racist and has no other arguments
South Park is bout to make the biggest prediction in the world if covid stays for 50 years
Keep in mind the quarantine is for people who are asymptomatic or if there is no fever for a 5 day quarantine
Yep. I knew as soon as this was announced that news outlets and people on the internet would leave out the asymptomatic part. Whether that’s intentional or not, I don’t know
Not sure how that would make much of a difference to be honest. Majority of cases are either minor symptoms or the worse passes after the 3rd day and people start going back to normal with fatigue. It’s common sense that if you feel like you’re dying 5 days later you shouldn’t be walking around and I wouldn’t know why you would feel the need to anyway
You’ve been hella consistent lately Op, keep it up man
That december Cpm
People were probably pushing for this change a while back, but the doctors and virus specialists finally feel confident in the move now so they have done it.
Hassan called the group robberies happening around the country “redistribution of wealth” I do t take him seriously anymore.
hasan never fails to look like a complete and utter clown no matter where he is
twomad has earned even more of my respect
It's so weird seeing twomad articulate himself like a normal human being, hes actually pretty smart
I'll always stand by Twomad he is literally uncancellable. Seeing it live was hilarious
Augie was streaming when this all went down, and typed Twomad's name in Hasan's chat and immediately was timed out for 24hrs
WHO said "No country can boost their way out of this pandemic, everyone will get covid at some point. Rich countries need to share vaccines with poor countries to stop so many variants"
Also the WHO: _Ignores Taiwan cuz Daddy China_
@@proud_emmerian6510 look I'm not saying they are perfect but the CDC actually also said more then 3 boosters can HARM your immune system. Of course Pfizer is still burying fact for that mighty $
@@Chill_Im_Probably_Trolling The government is also hiding any side effects and data on said side effects for 55 years. Smells awfully fishy.
@@proud_emmerian6510 its all a cash grab man. Why do you think only 10% of Afica is vaxed? No money to be made so big Pharma says fug em
This is where the line between conspiracy theory and reality starts to get blurred
This is definitely a twitter moment
I'm still baffled how this guy got that big on twitch...
Jinx(and others) back in the day got justifiably a lot of sh*t for simply stealing content by "reacting" to it.
And now this hack does exactly the same and nobody bats an eye.
being cenk uyghur's nephew sure gives you a lot of benefits
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So he's pretty much everything he hates? A rich white guy who takes from others.
@@irvinmorales1409 he’s not white he’s Turkish
@@spaceghost8886 Turks are pretty much white.
@@spaceghost8886 Oh wow, I didnt know he was actually turkish. That just makes me hate their company more. They deny the armenian and greek genocides, dont they?
The funniest thing about Alex Jones is a lot of the crazy stuff he said was true.
Self report of the century
Found One
Yikes
I don’t really like Alex jones. He comes to ridiculous conclusions using good evidence. I prefer Paul joeseph Watson
@@Alex38369 YIKES 🤢
Hassan made a grave mistake thinking he can win an argument against a guy who crashed a BTS concert
The gov definitely did this for profit and money reasons. The last thing any business or government cares about is people. It’s all about money.
And power (ex: lockdowns)
@@RamsteinPoplaski "Nah uh, that's not true bro, our government cares about us bro".
If anything, I’m more surprised that Twomad can actually create fluid and coherent sentences. It’s a whole new side to him that I’ve never seen
Who even listens to the guidelines or mandates anyways?
I stopped caring last year lol
The people who believe this pandemic is natural
At this point you should make a series called call of twitter: Drama warfare for videos like these
So the King of the Soyboys vs K-Pop Chad
Wait Hasan now realised that this stuff can be used for financial gain? Ughhhh
Honestly Hasan was one of the main reasons why my political views have changed but recently his takes have been so bad
Imo Hasan is really annoying sometimes.
I don’t like him honestly, some of his takes just make me facepalm
In what ways
@@KozakuraRabbit yes, I don’t agree with him on a lot but he was the first left leaning TH-camr I saw and that opened the door to other more reasonable left leaning creators to me
@@Aryam007 that's a contradiction there's no reasonable people these people never as he speaking reason or actually bring facts or describe their positions in detail
Game journos trying to pass as sociopolitical commenters, people arguing about politics with meme accounts, and peeps like Optimus here doing a better journalistic work than the mainstream.
Wild times, innit?
This is the weirdest timeline we live in
Reminds me of that zoom meeting when he Yelled the name "HASAN!" And comes till' back to this day :D
Hasan has been taking L's lately
Oh come on, I didn't want 2021 to end like this
Delta CEO: “we need more money”
CDC: “gotchu fam”
Well I tried to comment something about what you said at around 6:00 but i can't youtube keeps deleting it, so you will get my super generic comment instead.. Great Video Optimus !
You guys in the comments are all idiots for thinking Twomad was serious. He literally just typed a bunch of modern political buzzwords because it's based and quirky. This is just your average Twomad. No he didn't """own""" Hasan, and he also didn't "bring up Hasan hypocrisy". He was legit just trolling Hasan and his community. In other words, you got trolled too.
No he actually wanted a debate, funny I don't think you watched the streams, as twomad sat waiting for an hour trying to get Hasan in a discord, but Hasan said Destiny was behind all of it (Because Hasan is traumatized)
If you actually watched twomads stream you would know that twomad was trying to get an actual debate and hasan dodged claiming he was only doing it for the clout. Twomads point was that Hasan is a hypocrite as he will call right wingers nut jobs for promoting what is pretty much the same conspiracy as he is.
Zamnnnn i was bamboozled
This was a dumb comment. Twomad literally tried debating Hasidiot on his channel.
First I'm not sure that we should automatically view corporations influencing government as bad. They should be able to advocate for themselves. It allows us to find issues with laws. I believe that corporations often don't have the average person's interests in mind, but the reality is that these corporations represent people with their own interests, and so they should be listened to. And I don't think that the narrative of businesses having complete power over government is true. While there is disproportionate influence, it is more nuanced than corporations paying politicians to do what the corporations want.
In addition, I think that there's a double standard. I think people are ignoring the fact that big pharma also influenced the government. The more fearmongering about the pandemic, the more money they make. Once again, I don't think this influence is necessarily bad, it just shows the hypocrisy in the argument.
Twomad waited two hours on stream to join the discussion, but his viewers got banned, and hasan watched MasterChef
Doesn't matter what happened, Twomad is 100% correct.
fun fact: linus tech tips built or help build computers with these two lol
that's gaming
With the current administration's ways of handling things, and how lax alot of them are being with their partners and freinds in comerce, it isn't far fetched to believe delta strong armed the CDC along with governors.
However I will reserve that opinion as an assumption till we get actual evidence to support it.
I’m surprised that Optimus is siding with Hassan on this
Why?
Optimus isn’t the brightest when it comes to politics...
Regardless of who you simp for, who amongst you was inclined to believe CDC can't can't be influenced by Capitalist in cutting corners? Cutting corners isn't the same level as "plandemic", which suggested CDC had prior knowledge of covid.
twomad making BTS fans mad now he making Commies mad
The Roach Vs Nigerian Man interesting match up