Don’t Sell on Etsy, Saatchi or Art Galleries | How to Sell Art Online

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  • Don’t Sell on Etsy, Saatchi Art or Art Galleries | How to Sell Art Online. Watch advanced training on How to Become a 6+ Figure Artist: marthamayronson.com/aa-applic...
    Stop selling your art on Etsy, Saatchi Art or through art galleries. There are so many ways to sell your art online, but some are better than others. Selling art on Etsy, selling art on Saatchi Art and selling art in a gallery is hurting your art business in the long run. Instead in this video I’m sharing with you how the art market works and the benefits of selling your art online directly so you can start feeling more confident selling paintings and other art works online.
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    📹 Video Sections 📹
    00:00 - Intro
    01:20 - You get to keep 100% of the sale price
    02:10 - The cash goes directly into your bank account
    03:15 - Little security
    04:39 - You get to build a relationship with your clients
    05:34 - You get to call all the shots
    06:27 - FREE Ultimate Online Art Business Checklist
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  • @marthamayronson
    @marthamayronson  ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Find out more in my FREE Ultimate Online Business Checklist: marthamayronson.com/art-business-checklist

    • @Hkolncvbj3067
      @Hkolncvbj3067 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great video Martha, thanks a lot. Could you please the titles of the main points do not change so quickly. It's not easy for a non-native speaker to catch them.Thx!

  • @mkqart
    @mkqart ปีที่แล้ว +382

    For an artist, it really challenging to be a salesman. I know how to make Paintings but am unaware of how to sell artwork.

    • @jawadmani9971
      @jawadmani9971 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Wonderful information

    • @Goodwishes67
      @Goodwishes67 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Highly suggest checking out Jaroid Henry! His program changed my life as far as art sales go! You can look up my interview online Andrea Tramutolo

    • @silverblue73
      @silverblue73 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      and that is exactly what these businesses prey on

    • @yt-sh
      @yt-sh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Whenever I finished filming a movie, I felt my job was only half done. Every film had to be nurtured in the marketplace. You can have the greatest movie in the world, but if you don’t get it out there, if people don’t know about it, you have nothing - Arnold Schwarzenegger

    • @GINZillustration
      @GINZillustration 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      An expert once said, although we hv skill in anything but dont have skill in selling, it’s useless 😢

  • @dkstudioart
    @dkstudioart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

    While I support the idea of getting away from Etsy and similar, getting traffic to your own website is extremely challenging and really beyond the capabilities of most of us. Most artists that build a website get very few if any sales. I've paid for and attended several art marketing courses and I just can't do it, it simply isn't in me. If you have the heart for marketing and are willing to put the major effort required then building your own website might be for you. As for me, I just decided to let go of the idea of art as a business, for me it's just a hobby that pays for itself (partially).

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts! Running a business is challenging, it does take a lot of initial work to bring traffic onto your website, but it's what's required and will allow you to make a living doing something you love and bring you flexibility and freedom in your life down the line 🤗 yet I agree it's not for everyone! Thanks for watching ☺️

    • @miwagardner1353
      @miwagardner1353 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Agree! Traffic is the reason I’m on it!

    • @vitart-info
      @vitart-info 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@marthamayronson right, but I love doing my stuff and actively dislike bombing people with email spam and doing other online marketing manipulations, so it is the dilemma... Not saying it's choice between what you do - creave goods or marketing.

    • @amberforbes3151
      @amberforbes3151 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My understanding is even people who use Etsy have to directly promote their websites because of the glut of people using this website. I have read it is much harder to get organic traffic through places like Etsy than simply going through your own platform. Using your own platform means someone can Google something, and you'll have a better chance of popping up in the search engine.

    • @Hello2u3582mypincode
      @Hello2u3582mypincode 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vitart-info People can unsubscribe from your emaillist... It's only
      ennoying when I unsubscribe and I keep getting emails anyway from some money
      guru or someth....

  • @ThomasChristianWolfe
    @ThomasChristianWolfe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    What about using those major online sites to sell your art WHILE you build your own website in the very way you describe? You can always drop the other sites once you get enough recognition via your own site, right? That's the approach I'm considering. I also just sold a major piece on Saachi Art ... and while they do take their considerable cut, ~ through the power of their global exposure I was able to reach a client that was willing to pay $13,700. My cut was still substantial, as I had named a price that included their cut.

    • @KlaiseSvetlana
      @KlaiseSvetlana 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Congratulations on the sale! So, and I say, do you think the buyer would pay you such a price directly without guarantees that you would send him the work, collect all the documents, and deliver it safely?

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You sold a 13,700 piece off Saatchi? That is amazing. How extensive is your resume to get such a price?

    • @RodrigoKormann
      @RodrigoKormann 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That looks more reasonable. I want to start selling online but it looks too risky to start directly on a personal website. I think that it would be better to feel the market and the audience having my products on these kind of platforms first. And if I can do that for free even better.

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    0:10 "you give away your power and profit" "sell your art directly instead" Never. Not unless you are sure that when you walk away from third parties you have minimum 10 or 20 customers that you know you can contact that you are sure that they will buy. If not here's what can happen. You can soon find yourself in a situation where you will run out of money and you will have to look for a job. Your status will fall from a professional paid artist to an unemployed person looking for work! Do not try this unless you have a number of people you know you can contact that will - buy from you directly - and will buy again later. Because even if they will buy once in order for you to continue to be an artist you must have continuous income from selling your art. Not just once. Not just for Christmas. But continuously. Because the bills will come. Not just once. Not just for Christmas. But continuously. Do not do this unless you have that group of people that you can contact that you know will buy maybe a few times a year. Otherwise you are not going to lose your profit. You are going to lose your business and your profession.

    • @judilynn9569
      @judilynn9569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True. You can run an art business, but be sure to diversify. Find other ways to sell your talents.

  • @MisterNiles
    @MisterNiles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Oh.... this is a commercial. I see.

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    1:20 "you get to keep 100% of the sale price" First the only way you can do that is if you know you have a group of people who you know you can contact and you know that they will buy from you at least from time to time. If not, you're going to have 0% of the sale price because you will never sell. Consider this fact.

    • @rockinartgallery985
      @rockinartgallery985 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Stop being such a negative nanny!

    • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
      @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rockinartgallery985This is not relating to me or my comment.

    • @mano4053
      @mano4053 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rockinartgallery985 Some are great artists, but not everyone has the blood of a merchant.

    • @themindbend777
      @themindbend777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's right. You still need to drive traffic and get customers doing your own thing. That means you're at the mercy of big tech pretty much no matter what. Etsy and those other platforms give your business eyeballs and they charge you for it. Shopify will charge you a fee plus you have to run ads to get more traffic. Free social media is starting to wane. IMO it's best to work tge numbers to see which benefits you the most

    • @neonmoon9205
      @neonmoon9205 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@themindbend777 Having your own website is only worth it if you can drive traffic to it through social media. Gonna need some kind of Instagram, Twitter or Utube following or else you'll have a traffic-less website not even worth its hosting fees.

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    3:20 "galleries and third parties don't offer security" First they screen out bad customers. Nobody can buy from a third platform unless they sign a buyer's policy. You are less likely to be scammed and less likely to get customers from hell. If that happens Etsy or Saatchi Art or even galleries deal with them. You can enjoy a peace of mind. However, 3:00 "galleries can close" This is true. They can also move without notice too. Your art may be moved without your permission or knowledge. True.

  • @piotrbator
    @piotrbator ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That's was so radical and wonderful Martha for the general understanding we know about selling art! You're amazing!

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much!! Glad you found it helpful 😀

  • @AlvaroMirandaArt
    @AlvaroMirandaArt ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I agree 100%! Especially with the complete freedom of what you sell. It really is discouraging to have your work flagged/removed/temporarily under review.

  • @Diana-zx2xc
    @Diana-zx2xc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you, Martha, I like your esteem and passion. I am just about to create my own website and I can tell you it is really hard work if you’re not a techie at all, tiring, frustrating, scary. But I am progressing step-by-step. I also want to create a shop to sell my art. Today I discovered your video, it was in my feed. It just came at the right time for me and confirms all my doubts about selling my art through third parties. Thank you so much, please keep on with his channel. 😊

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's great! Good luck with building your website and thanks for watching and supporting my channel 😊

  • @Hkolncvbj3067
    @Hkolncvbj3067 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Valuable information, thank you for reminding and supporting!

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching, I’m glad you found it helpful! 🤗

  • @CherryMcAlister
    @CherryMcAlister ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great tips. Thanks Martha.

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    4:50 Correct. The collectors are gallery's clients. But you cannot leave the galleries unless you have your own collectors, people that you can contact with new work that you know they will from time to time buy. If leave galleries without this you will turn from a self employed artist to an unemployed person looking for work. When you are lucky enough to get a job you will not work as an artist. It will slide down to be a hobby. You will not only not sell anything. You will lose your status as a professional artist.

    • @salvasalvas
      @salvasalvas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I had exactly that experience after 15 years as an artist in gallery.

  • @paulfogarty7724
    @paulfogarty7724 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hi Martha
    I just downloaded your checklist and had a look through it. Yes, while it does look complicated, I think if anyone is serious about becoming their own gallerist and selling their work, they really need to learn how to do everything you've included on that checklist. It sounds tough, but it's the only way.
    Thanks again !

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Precisely, it does take work! And yet it is required 🙌

  • @brandycat8513
    @brandycat8513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    She makes a living by selling courses on how to sell art. Def; LOl

    • @archerandthemouse
      @archerandthemouse หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is how it goes now. Everyone is looking for an easy income stream.

  • @E.Hernandez108
    @E.Hernandez108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just sign up want to hear more from you for sure. Thank you for your work Martha.

  • @1thousandwattz
    @1thousandwattz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for sharing your advice and reasons behind your perspective - as an artist, this insight is helpful!

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are so welcome! Thanks so much for watching, it really supports the channel ☺️

  • @DV-dt9sq
    @DV-dt9sq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Martha for unselfish solidarity. 🤗🎨

  • @surality
    @surality 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the advice, much appreciated.

  • @royaluelpulma1117
    @royaluelpulma1117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks Martha! I learned a lot from this video. I am in the process of creating my first collection of digital illustrations and I am already thinking about how I can monetize these works. Watching this video gave me an important insight into the business side of selling art and will help me better decide on which path to take.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm so glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching! 🤗

  • @AT-ol2yj
    @AT-ol2yj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Martha!! You seem knowledgeable, sincere, honest and you are sweet. I’ve signed and am now following. I hope the best for you and your path, and perhaps I will work with you in the near future. 😊

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wonderful! Thanks so much for subscribing and for your support 🤗

  • @ifithelpswithdory6650
    @ifithelpswithdory6650 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You have provided such valuable content …..THANK YOU!!!!

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    4:00 True. Third parties may do something where they don't send you traffic. This also happens on social media Facebook, Instagram, TH-cam too. You may post great posts that nobody sees. This one is true. - However the same can happen if you have your own website or even art gallery. You may get no traffic and disinterested people.

  • @jvrvenetianandresin
    @jvrvenetianandresin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A very good point regarding not knowing who bought your art.

  • @laurelastor5791
    @laurelastor5791 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this information! It is very helpful😊

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful! 😊

  • @arthurtsiakopoulos2051
    @arthurtsiakopoulos2051 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for your video and explaination. I have been an artist for many years in the Byzantine art form, and have taught at the University level. I have recently picked up the brush again and now I am getting close to retirement and would like to explore some avenues for me to sell my art work. Always knew that galleries are out for there own profit gain and I do not want to have anything to do with them for the exact reason you spoke about.
    Thank you.

  • @tricornclub9594
    @tricornclub9594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Inspiring advice, Martha. Thank you. Saves me the time I would have wasted this weekend writing to galleries. Most of whom will never reply anyway.

  • @Chiffon-36
    @Chiffon-36 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thankyou so much for this info 💓

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're so welcome! Thank you for watching and supporting the channel! 💜

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    2:40 You may never sell your work and you may forever chase disinterested people in your work. Doing thousands of posts on various social media and your website. Or opening your own gallery to have people visit you to find out where is the rest room or for directions. This while you are self employed and have bills to pay and don't have a salary job. If this happens what are you going to do? Lose your status as a self employed artist and you will do what? Look for a job? No. You work with and through galleries and keep your self employed artist status. This isn't even just about money. It's about your social status too.

  • @kambrose1549
    @kambrose1549 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Online is a shot in the dark. Sometimes you just haul in a scamster. It also takes time and energy. Rather spend the equivalent time and energy on having physical presentations where you are personally selling. After a few enthusiastic clients your sales talk will blossom. This way you keep your paintings available to you until they sell. I'd try markets and pop up events.

    • @KlaiseSvetlana
      @KlaiseSvetlana 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I absolutely support your idea about exhibitions and fairs. Maybe you can recommend a few? I tried to find information, but I come across exhibitions with very expensive participation fees..

  • @Handle1916
    @Handle1916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video - many thanks. Kate.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for your support! ☺️

  • @emanurart
    @emanurart 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this!

  • @mohamedakram-sd4kv
    @mohamedakram-sd4kv ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome advice.
    Thanks a lot
    Akram

  • @sherrywebster1675
    @sherrywebster1675 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great advice and analysis thank you :)

  • @beebzzzzzz
    @beebzzzzzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I take advice like this with a grain of salt because it doesn't track with my experience of online selling. The audience I can get from Ebay just isn't available anywhere else. I prefer to just use several platforms and take my chances because running a decent website becomes it's own thing. I am not a web designer. I like to focus on art and then posting it to a platform. Etsy and Ebay work for niches.

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your confidence is extremely impressive and contagious 😊

  • @huberthanks3007
    @huberthanks3007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great advice Martha. I like the idea of selling direct.

  • @paulward674
    @paulward674 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was perfect timing for me. I was literally just going to sign up for a third party website but this post has helped me understand why I shouldn’t, just need to do the work and create my own website.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  ปีที่แล้ว

      Precisely. Glad you found it helpful!

    • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
      @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My other take on this is that third party websites help mediate bad customers and weed out scammers. When you sign up on a third party platform both the buyer and seller is signing an agreement. If you get a customer from hell they deal with the customer. You can have a peace of mind because they take care of the refunds and chargebacks. It is very hard for an artist to issue refunds and deal with chargebacks. Here's what Etsy does. They will hold your money and pay you later but never ever do you have to worry about things like chargebacks or refunds. Ever. If there is a customer from hell you can report them and Etsy could ban them if you have a bad experience with them. If you're on your own you will have to pay for an attorney and possible court costs and could still lose a case. Another benefit is that you get things like that customers can do things like add your store to their favorites. You can also see who looks at your artwork by looking at the peoples profiles and their favorite stores too. All that for not that much a cut. Negative side is that you might not get much traffic though. But that can also happen if you're on your own too.

    • @sherion80
      @sherion80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah, but who will find your website?

  • @XNY_Music
    @XNY_Music ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not sure why you're including Saatchi as they are a long established online outlet for proper artists.
    They have/had traffic that invests in bankable works of art.
    Your website looks good though and definitely intriguing.
    My thirty years of experience as an artist shows that finding people who are prepared to pay more than £500 for a work of art is not easy. I'll have to get in touch as you clearly know a lot more about that side of the art industry, I just love having something to paint, don't really care about selling.

  • @betterlife-relaxingmusic4847
    @betterlife-relaxingmusic4847 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for you great advice..

  • @cirecrime
    @cirecrime ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your video
    It was very informing 👍

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching 🤗

  • @dantarradellas7351
    @dantarradellas7351 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely agree, understand the why. Please elaborate in the how

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching! Keep following my content, we'll be creating more videos around this in the coming months 🤗

  • @silasologun4071
    @silasologun4071 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much
    This video is very helpful
    Thank you

  • @TheMindfulPainter
    @TheMindfulPainter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re so credible. Thank you. Just discovered you.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome to my channel and thanks for watching!

  • @lartistecrypto
    @lartistecrypto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I totally agree with you! Artists must have full control over their sales, and they should be able to command the same prices as galleries!

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you agree! Thanks for watching!

  • @NorahsYarnArt
    @NorahsYarnArt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing this.

  • @mj_dolman5122
    @mj_dolman5122 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. I am quitting Saachi Art because I didn't have time to update it for so long I felt like it was dragging me down. It doesn't seem to be a good way to connect with art buyers anyway, Facebook is actually better but doesn't give me the most professional image. Now I have more time and fresh motivation to work on my own, classy artist's website. Thanks to your video I realize it is 100% the right thing I need to be doing!

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YES! 👏 Send me a link to your website once you've built it, I'd love to see it! 😀

  • @rleung2001
    @rleung2001 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    #1 - Etsy takes 6.5% transaction fee, plus a 3% + $0.25 payment processing charge. #2 - Silicon Valley Bank Closing. It affected a lot of tech startup companies in USA, ETSY is one of them. We will get more information on March 13.

  • @gaston.
    @gaston. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good points.. thanks for sharing. Though I've noticed the best artist have their mind occupied by the art.. sales are a whole other brain think and time. Perhaps a myth that they can't do both? not sure, but what I have seen are the more successful artists are definitely not the more authentic.. or in my own value judgement the better ones, thats why we need people like you to do the selling.

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    0:05 "by selling on 3rd party platforms you are giving away your power" Etsy gives you protection against scams and bad customers. When you sell on Etsy the customer buys from Etsy and you as a seller are not on your own. It's like you would have a free power of attorney working at your side in case anything happens. If you have a dispute Etsy works as a mediator. The customer must follow Etsy buyer's policy. If anything happens the seller can report a bad customer experience. If you're on your own all that you don't have. It's easy to get scammed. It's easy for someone not to pay you. It's easy for someone to lie in court against you. When you sell on Etsy the customer from hell has to deal with Etsy. Etsy has the power to deal with such people. You as an artist do not. unless you have a very good attorney. Period. The percentage you pay Etsy for such power of protection against customers from hell is miniscule because a good attorney will be much more expensive to deal with customers from hell. You will get them.

    • @heraldeventsandfilms5970
      @heraldeventsandfilms5970 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you. I have a successful Etsy shop and there are rarely problems. A global market with, as you say, with protection in place. This video is simply about promoting her embarrassing website, one of those 'How to unlock your potential' American-type template scams giving false hope to talentless amateurs.

    • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
      @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@heraldeventsandfilms5970 Replying directlty to your comment I think she is British, not American hearing her accent. Speaking of America it has the most artists in the world of all types, levels, and talents and the most galleries in the world too.

    • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
      @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@heraldeventsandfilms5970 What do you sell in your Etsy shop? How long did it take to get started?

    • @heraldeventsandfilms5970
      @heraldeventsandfilms5970 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am a full-time artist and my smaller works sell there. I invite studio visits too and that that way my large paintings are purchased. Etsy has a simple format for posting work and payments are prompt. The advice here is pathetic and she is NOT working with professional artists but is instead just trying to make money from deluded amateurs. She was probably an unpaid intern in a gallery and made the coffee.@@creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834

    • @PrincessFidelma
      @PrincessFidelma 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I feel like she doesn't know how Etsy works.
      While I understand why sellers are leaving, I don't know why she's portraying them as having your stock and taking over completely, you still have your painting in your inventory, do all photographs, all the packing and posting, etc. they just provide a space to sell, like your own website would, but, like you said, with protections!! And I'd have thought that is worth paying a small-ish percentage.
      As a customer they've helped me get money back a couple of times when things weren't sent and sellers stopped answering or never answered in the first place. I'm glad to hear they protect sellers from horrible customers, too.

  • @Handle1916
    @Handle1916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video and a great help. I’m a contemporary painter, MFA, shows, etc. Then only a few shows while raising a family. Now I’m ready to get active finally. Planned to sell online and then someone stole one of my images of a life drawing from my FB albums. One of my best drawings. They cloned a gallery website and sold the prints. No idea who it was and only knew because of a Google alert. Devastated. Suspicious of online sales now but it seems to be the way to go. Online galleries will not allow watermarks on artwork. What can be done to avoid fraud? Thank you, Kate.

  • @Ian-gw2vx
    @Ian-gw2vx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I have had my work on Saatchi for about 4 years without a single sale. They are not interested in promoting unknowns, however good the work. It's just a clique of well known established, some who quite frankly put out mass produced style over substance work at ridiculously big prices. I have given up trying to make it as a Photographer despite the hard graft as a HND student in the 80s. Social media is useless too. At nearly 57 I think the dream is over.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks for sharing your perspective! It's why I recommend selling directly to clients instead of using third party platforms. It's never too late to follow your dreams in becoming a professional photographer, we work with lots of artists your age and above who are building successful businesses around their art practice ☺️

    • @evastamfestova1616
      @evastamfestova1616 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      OH for 4 year? Thats horrible

    • @Ian-gw2vx
      @Ian-gw2vx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually almost 5 years now.@@evastamfestova1616

    • @ThomasAnderson-aka-Neo
      @ThomasAnderson-aka-Neo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@evastamfestova1616 i'm on Saatchi for 5 years: 65 artworks, abstract and figurative, on paper and canvas, small pieces and big ones, from 170 euro up to 2000 euro, and.... 0 (zero!) sales.

    • @didisumedi4323
      @didisumedi4323 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@marthamayronson.. Allow me introduce my self. My Name is Didi from Indonesia,, I want get money from my paint. Can you help me, please,!!

  • @crystallynndavisart8309
    @crystallynndavisart8309 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am listening. Although the goal is to take a lot of stress off your shoulders by using galleries, third parties, etc., it’s relieving to me that there is still another way because it actually really stresses me out to try and figure out hoe to use all of those platforms.😅 I am thinking about venturing out here soon to try and make a brand for myself and sell my art. I’ve dabbled a little with my own website but I gave up too soon. Time to roll up the sleeves again!

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good for you! Get in touch when you're ready to dive in again 🤗 🤗

  • @BarreirasdaMente-mv1we
    @BarreirasdaMente-mv1we 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obrigado pelas excelentes info, acerca deste mercado.

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:45 Never will you even get 1% profit if you don't sell anything. If you don't already have a group of people you know you can contact that you know can buy you will have 0% profit and only costs. You will run out of money chasing people not interested in your work and you will soon be looking for a job like an unemployed person. Never. Never do this unless you have people you can contact that will buy first. Or unless you have a job that pays you a monthly salary. Many self employed artists DO NOT!

  • @myob3074
    @myob3074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really want Etsy to answer back 💯

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    5:00 You cannot do all this unless you got some other income or don't need income to live. Make this point at the very beginning of the video.

  • @kedidjein
    @kedidjein หลายเดือนก่อน

    you're beautiful ♥ thanks for this video!! 🙂❤

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching! 🤗

    • @kedidjein
      @kedidjein หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marthamayronson ❤❤🥰❤❤❤❤

  • @doudouhuang6433
    @doudouhuang6433 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    although that sounds like a lot of benefits to selling by artist, the security and shipments are more reliable by art platform. I do try my own website, and it has to pay an annual fee to maintain the host has to register on PayPal, there is a lot to consider aside from creating art itself. I also experienced the client taking the painting without any payment, because that is your own"Client", the artist can not do anything in case to keep the relationship, but it is bad for business.
    Therefore I still will choose the third-party platform as it is more secure than doing it myself, and less trouble on admin or legal issues.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and sharing your views! 🤗 Shipping an artwork before payment has been accepted falls on the artist/seller. I'd never advise this!

  • @almost_harmless
    @almost_harmless 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like your advice here. Most people need short time solutions to sort their economy, so one solution might be to sell some art on the third-party sites, and keep your best for when you finally get your own company up and running.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The unfortunate problem is that, many artists do not see success on these sites unless they put a lot of work into them, and then only if they do this, they see results much later. It's more time efficient to put your efforts into your own assets from the get go! Thanks for watching 😊

  • @paulfogarty7724
    @paulfogarty7724 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    For me, Etsy was fine, simple to use, and I didn't begrudge them their cut as I'd hardly expect them to do it for free. I was selling one or two paintings per month and while not enough to give up the " day job " it was lovely to get that unexpected buzz on your phone telling you of a sale. However, since the beginning of this year - 2023 - I haven't sold a single painting, it's really weird, a sudden abrupt stop. If it continues like this for the remainder on the year I'll close down the Etsy gallery altogether.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing this and honestly this is one of the reasons why artists cannot rely on such platforms. If you are relying on the revenue though a particular platform, and all of a sudden the algorithm changes like it seems like has happened for you, the sales dry up!

    • @larrywakeman4371
      @larrywakeman4371 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am like that on EBAY NOTHING-- years ago befoe the Chinese took over Ebay I was seling watercolors VERY well. Now 1 view a month???? they are taking over, I am telling you.

    • @sandratimofeeva3179
      @sandratimofeeva3179 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ai art is flooded all marketplases😢

    • @anagonzalezart
      @anagonzalezart 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The same thing happened to me, I have been on Etsy for 14 years, with ups and downs, but I have been selling, but I no longer get visibility, not even paying for Etsy's internal advertising.
      I have had my own website since 2000, but it was not so professional, before there were no payment gateways, buyers simply wrote to you and made a transfer, everything was more rudimentary, it was more of a catalog type. Over time I created another website with wordpress and woocommerce now more professional, there I have sold something, from the traffic I have brought from Instagram, and people who have searched for me, who already knew me from Etsy,
      Now I am moving my wordpress store to Shopify, because I don't trust it at all of the payment gateways that are installed with WordPress, sometimes buyers have reported to me an incident in the payment process.
      The problem with working with the platforms, apart from the fact that they charge you a commission, is that they give you visibility or take it away as they see fit and also the clients are never yours, you cannot contact them. And besides, in the end you have to provide the traffic. In any case, it is good to be on the platforms until your site generates enough sales to have a healthy economy. Create a solid and broad audience on Instagram to take that traffic wherever you want, which is not easy, I'm on it.

  • @ViBrazh
    @ViBrazh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3:32 This is so true, unfortunately. The recent unexpected closure of Hand Tough Contemporary art gallery in Dublin underscores the uncertainty even the finest galleries face. Galleries are artistic sanctuaries, and it's disheartening when they vanish unexpectedly.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, unfortunately galleries close all the time!

  • @mancomanga
    @mancomanga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a patreon and this is so true! direct as possible

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    3:00 I could almost laugh at this one. How long will it take? If you forever will chase disinterested people all over the internet not even begging them to buy the best artwork will not be enough. Chances are nobody will buy your artwork over the internet unless it's from a place they already trust if they do at all. Saatchi Art and Etsy these are names people know and somewhat trust.

  • @WaqasDaniyal6190
    @WaqasDaniyal6190 หลายเดือนก่อน

    more more thanks for the best advice 👍😃😅

  • @sarmedmirza
    @sarmedmirza ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great insights. Very well presented and articulated.
    Some thoughts…How to build trust, have solo show and sell high priced art (£50k and above) without representation?
    Where to find affordable help to refine the artist brand and do effective marketing (social media etc) without doing a degree in marketing and sales or breaking the bank? Thank you 🙏🏻💜

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We specialise in branding, marketing and selling for artists, we'd love to help - get in touch! 🤗

  • @user-vd9mh1mn9t
    @user-vd9mh1mn9t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Directly
    Is the key word
    Selling through online network
    Is an interesting choice
    For independent talented artists

  • @julianstclair
    @julianstclair 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The reason I sell through Saatchi Art is that they handle shipping. Shipping is a nightmare when you try and do it yourself.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes shipping can be complex!

  • @nightriverwood
    @nightriverwood 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video. I'm an artist and an e-commerce director with decades of experience. It is straightforward for me to create very professional websites. I also have a fairly large social media following, a big newsletter database etc. My work gets shared widely when I post it. BUT I sell almost nothing online because the people who tend to follow artists are other artists. This is how algorithms work. Finding an audience of art buyers, people who will pay more than Etsy prices for your work is only done via direct networking, ie meeting people in galleries, as far as I can tell. Which is why I'm putting all my efforts into selling in galleries and not online from the new year. If you can show me real examples to prove that my decision is incorrect then I'd sign up to your programme in an instant.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can show you real examples, this is what we specialise in 🤗 send me a DM on Instagram: instagram.com/marthamay/

  • @Lo.0se
    @Lo.0se 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    to sell directly you would need to advertise which cost big $$$. im no expert, but i think doing both Etsy and independent, be on as many platforms at the start and divert traffic from those pages to your private one, using promotions in the sales description.

  • @timefilm
    @timefilm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for ending my mental dilemma.

  • @jenna2431
    @jenna2431 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Welcome to the art "business".

  • @IgorNevzgliad
    @IgorNevzgliad 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stop selling??? I can't sell anything there...

  • @ljwhite2845
    @ljwhite2845 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been on Facebook for 10 years and I’ve sold several paintings over the years, but never enough for my husband to quit his job. It would be wonderful to make enough money to live life comfortably.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm going to be teaching artists how to craft a business model for your art business to bring in enough money to support yourself and your husband if that's what you desire. Here's the link if you'd like to learn: marthamayronson.com/aa-application-ev 🤗

  • @choosetruthalways7995
    @choosetruthalways7995 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes this sounds liberating. Yet for example on Instagram how to go about the - algorithms?

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're using Instagram, you have to learn what the algorithm does and does not respond well to. For example, the algorithm favours artists that post consistently over sporadically! I created a course specifically for artists that want to learn how to master Instagram here: www.marthamayronson.com/ifa 🤗

  • @veronicayoung8737
    @veronicayoung8737 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great Value Content!
    Learning about the insights you've gained through your experience at this moment in my life where and when i want to make drastic changes in the way i allow myself to live as an artist, means a lot. Really inspired me to get back to my art with a new mind set, a confident-action taking-embracing challenges one! To live and follow a more truthful-to-self path.
    Thank you for investing your time in making this content that helps artists empower themselves.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh this is so wonderful to hear! I'm so delighted to hear that it inspired you. Thank you for your such generous feedback!! 🤗

  • @OlgierdKostanowicz
    @OlgierdKostanowicz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi
    Is it OK to use Pay Pal?

  • @MaxRuso
    @MaxRuso 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why not sell on every channel

  • @soarpurpose
    @soarpurpose 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sale price minus materials. Tricky part is how to get seen.

  • @Flowstatepaint
    @Flowstatepaint 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New here. Grateful. I could use help

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have a sell your art online playlist here: th-cam.com/play/PLjp6Q5MoXuU2ZUKiz2g_ScGOJqk44g9hb.html

  • @veganvocalist4782
    @veganvocalist4782 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100% agree, same with music industry or any creative expression .
    It is not wise to give up control to companies that basically do not value what you do and bring to the World .
    They ALL exploit artists and I refused to PAY some one to exhibit in their pretentious tiny spaces with little foot fall , promotion or advertising .
    They view us as prey , with their laughable charges PLUS a percentage after their lazy none comminted way of representing our work .
    I have given pieces away at times to individuals whom have been deeply effected by a piece rather than pay a gallery to sell to some one whom is not really moved by a piece .

  • @naedja
    @naedja 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked.

  • @veganvocalist4782
    @veganvocalist4782 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some of us are actually not ABLE to do this side of the business . This is why I no longer do it , once in a while I may do a piece simply for my own pleasure or to help ground me but IF you are equally right AND left brained then this makes perfect sence if you are caoable , I agree

  • @surreallife777
    @surreallife777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you. My question is can you do both and how is it structured? If for example, an art gallery is selling your art for $5000 then you cannot sell your art for $4000 online because you’re under cutting the gallery so how do you overcomer this? Also, why don’t you represent some artists?

    • @regis_red
      @regis_red 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It all depends on the contract you have with the gallery. Do they have exclusivity on your work? Are they doing all the promo work for you? That sort of things.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, you don't want to upset your gallery if you are already working with one! It all depends on the arrangement you have with your gallery.

  • @yasminc.89
    @yasminc.89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about linking the etsy-shop on your website? Until making an own shop? I still use a subdomain for my artist website, because it´s for free

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ideally you want to drive traffic TO your website, and not AWAY from it!

  • @Artstudiovaneijk
    @Artstudiovaneijk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yep no galleries with 40/50% commission, no copyright ripping websites and no social media 👌

  • @michaeljohnson6677
    @michaeljohnson6677 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found having a web site took all my time, i therefore use galleries to sell my work, yes they take 40 to 50%

  • @shamsunnaharlovely1159
    @shamsunnaharlovely1159 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please send me few address of gallery who buy art work directly

  • @OoziBubbleStudios
    @OoziBubbleStudios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tell us where to sell digitally created textured and abstract artwork?

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't matter what medium you work in to sell directly to clients 🤗

  • @topchic7475
    @topchic7475 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good info but that’s all about why not how to do it.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have a sell your art online playlist here: th-cam.com/play/PLjp6Q5MoXuU2ZUKiz2g_ScGOJqk44g9hb.html 🤗

  • @KashiGirl911
    @KashiGirl911 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the title is 'how to sell art online'... I got nothing on how to sell art online. just some vendors to not sell with (and why)

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have lots of video on selling art online in our playlist here: th-cam.com/play/PLjp6Q5MoXuU2ZUKiz2g_ScGOJqk44g9hb.html ☺

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:00 in other words you have a job now with a guaranteed monthly salary. You can pay your rent. You can pay your bills. You can eat. Even if you don't sell anything. A professional artist relying on sales to do all that does not. You can do what you say. But only with such special conditions. Many artists who see this do not have a salary job because they want to make a living as artists. Many artists want to have an independent status. For artists without a salary job it may be better to stick to third parties where sales on a regualar basis is something essential.

  • @badcatzgamedevelopmentcomp4808
    @badcatzgamedevelopmentcomp4808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of people here are in the same boat, we just need to leverage people 'current' attitudes towards a.i. art, and give people the 'creator' experience, ie; videos of artists creating Their artwork, ai cant do that.

  • @gonesavage
    @gonesavage 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Martha, one thing I can’t seem to find a resource for is how to resell original art I’ve bought. I have a few oil paintings that I’ve bought from galleries from distinguished artists but I have to move. I’d like to sell a couple pieces. Is there any place online that is good for that? Thanks!

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello! We primarily help artists sell their own works directly to clients. If you'd like advice on selling reselling works in the secondary market, then I can advise you on this on a consulting call with me. Send an email to: hello@marthamayronson.com if you'd like to set that up 😊

  • @user-xi6bf5rb9y
    @user-xi6bf5rb9y 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Before that, I want to ask, does the third party platform limit the maximum price for each product sold?, so that we cannot determine how much profit we can make? Why not, if we can determine the desired price, then whatever the price in a third party platform gallery studio, it has to be above the price we want. for example, after knowing what percentage of the product selling price is taken by the platform, a painting we want costs $3000, then we have to fill in a price tag above $3000, for example making the price in the range between $3500 to $6000. What do you think, can this method be applied to every third party platform?

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you'd want to feel comfortable with the amount of profit you're getting in either situation but I wouldn't recommend pricing based on profit as it can really hurt your market. Pricing is an incredibly nuanced topic! I teach it in detail: marthamayronson.com/pya if you're interested 🙌

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    • @Ролтун
      @Ролтун 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you @@marthamayronson

  • @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834
    @creacionesdejoyasunicasdea1834 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One problem there may be with art platforms is sending out original work BEFORE getting paid and then have a person HOLD THE WORK for 14 days or 30 days, whatever period of time and then you would or would not get paid. Big problem if anything happens during this time. Not a problem if it was a print or a print on demand item.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes we would never recommend doing that.

  • @yurikirilyuk1259
    @yurikirilyuk1259 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But internet advertising also need payment as well as gallery.

    • @marthamayronson
      @marthamayronson  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you create traffic streams through SEO and organic marketing, you won't need to pay for ads 😊

  • @braggswagg3448
    @braggswagg3448 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But aren’t we actually using these middle men for their platform, customer base? Set up a website, but then what? Could you maybe explain how do you actually sell art online (after you have your own site)?