Delightful video! I still remember a class assignment from 1st year harmony at university. We had to reset a four bar example in six different styles: Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and two more (that I can't recall). It was a lot of fun.
@@98voteforpedro Impressionistic, Nationalistic, serialism, 20th century ("modern"), jazz. I'm sure there were other styles as well. Thankfully, we spent most of our time (over 2 semesters) studying Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, and Romantic. As I think back to that time (1980-1981), I believe the two other styles I selected were impressionistic and 20th Century. I came across my manuscript from that assignment a couple of years ago. As I have moved since then, I'm not sure were that manuscript is at the moment. I spent most of my time (on that assignment) concentrating on the first four styles (Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, and Romantic).
It’s amazing how Mozart wrote this song.. and it ended up as a kids song. Originally called “ah vous dirai-je maman” in 12 different keys. Great video, like the different styles
Wow that was really packed. Absolutely great to see and hear it in a direct genre comparison. Whereas you melted my brain during the romantic part, because as a guitarist I rather belong to the cool swing squad. 😁
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Brilliant! I had always wondered what makes different musical styles sound the way they do. Now it's much clearer. As a bonus, I also discovered the importance of carefully choosing your accidentals (in your Romantic example). I had assumed that accidentals were marked by whether the melodic progression was up or down, not thinking that they make a big statement about what the chord is. BTW, the cadence of the Romantic example immediately triggered in my mind the cadence in the Beatle's Let It Be.
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I can do rock style on this music too but left hand from rock style will not have chord because it use only 2 note instead 3 note it mostly using perfect 5th interval Example C Chord will omitted 3rd it will play only C and G I try play rock style it look simple but rhythm when play with right hand it little bit hard because left hand you will play rhythm like 3+3+2 on 8th note while right hand will play rhythm like 2+2+2+2 on 8th note Left hand is play like this (8th note) (C-G) (C) (C) (C-G) (C) (C) (C-G) (C) (F-C) (F) (F) (F-C) (C-G) (C) (C-G) (C) while right hand is play like this (8th note) (C) - (C) - (G) - (G) - (A) - (A) - (G) - - - left hand is little bit tricky when chord change in half measure it look like 3+1+2+2 rhythm instead 3+3+2
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Very insightful... Is it possible to explain the same thing for other styles such as pop, rock, heavy metal, electronic, blues, jazz, etc? Any modern genre that you understand? Any explanation and visual example would be immensely valuable. As much as I love a lot of these styles, I would prefer to understand how to transform from one genre to the next in more modern styles. I have no money to pay to anyone to learn or I would have already sought that route. I tried a free video instruction - but he focused more on my horrible disfigurement than he did on any instruction of musical nature...
It should also be mentioned that the classical accompaniment of Mozart or Haydn is seldom as banal as shown here. Rather, the Alberti bass shows up only in short passages from time to time, before the rhythm in the accompaniment suddenly changes again, often several times in a row in a relatively short period of time. The rhythm of the accompaniment changes relatively frequently and creatively, especially in the opening sonata movements. Baroque accompaniments are rhythmically far more monotonous than classical ones.
Baroque figures are more consistent rather than monotonous. Agreed re the Alberti. It’s absolutely ideal for a short passage such as this, exactly as Haydn and Mozart do as you say.
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I'm curious about the Classical style being written an octave higher than the other arrangements. You didn't mention why that was (or I missed it). Is it to do with keeping the lighter feel of the Classical period or was there another reasoning behind that?
Wonderful job, dear colleague! You hit the nail doing these different styles! My favorite is the smooth swing version. Very elegant! But every version has its merits! I don't think, you've 'overcooked' the late Romantic version. It's full of very typical and idiomatic things going on, especially the augmented sixth chords (love those!). I did something quite similar on the old Easter chorale melody "Erschienen ist der herrliche Tag" for my students at the University of Protestant Church Music in Halle/Saale (yes, Handel's bithplace! The University is just around the corner of the Handel-House...), but just the music without extended explanations. If you`re interested in my tries on that one: here are my 8 versions of that chorale: th-cam.com/video/jd4BpomAeMM/w-d-xo.html. And in this video I made variations on the German folktune "Kommt ein Vogel geflogen" not only in different composition styles (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Wagner, Mahler, Debussy), but also in regard of their orchestration techniques: th-cam.com/video/U0xDS2VPFwk/w-d-xo.html
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14:53 If like me you wanted a refresher on the French 6th, it turns out this video from 2018 covers it really well: th-cam.com/video/5PtZQEB-d7A/w-d-xo.html
Honestly, I don't see any historical evolution in music. The first two versions sound to me better by far than the third and the fourth. It sounds like if in time they went getting far from the origins.
Fantastic variations, fantastic lesson, however, music educators must be completely unaware that kids and many adults absolutely hate the 'twinkle twinkle' theme (and many other cliche classical themes) due to various real reasons which are inescapable. Music educators continually use it as the foremost example for study of music, apparently believing it's "cute" to do so (?), whereas to appease the anti-twinklers, they should not use it at all. No kidding. Exactly who are all these kids who "go around singing twinkle twinkle", seemingly they are from a different planet?
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Delightful video! I still remember a class assignment from 1st year harmony at university. We had to reset a four bar example in six different styles: Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and two more (that I can't recall). It was a lot of fun.
It is fun!
Six styles?!? I dont even know one. that sounds impossible.
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Carl Stenger what other styles did you learn i didn't know there were any other styles that were considered classical.
@@98voteforpedro Impressionistic, Nationalistic, serialism, 20th century ("modern"), jazz. I'm sure there were other styles as well. Thankfully, we spent most of our time (over 2 semesters) studying Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, and Romantic. As I think back to that time (1980-1981), I believe the two other styles I selected were impressionistic and 20th Century. I came across my manuscript from that assignment a couple of years ago. As I have moved since then, I'm not sure were that manuscript is at the moment. I spent most of my time (on that assignment) concentrating on the first four styles (Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, and Romantic).
Your romantic version is very intense! I'll go back to it to understand all the subtleties. All is very instructive and well explained as usual!
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I liked the classical style most. Simple and beautiful
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Couldn't agree more... sounds like a lullaby :')
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Wow that romantic version is something else. Love it!
Glad you like it
It’s amazing how Mozart wrote this song.. and it ended up as a kids song. Originally called “ah vous dirai-je maman” in 12 different keys. Great video, like the different styles
Thanks for the positive feedback. Yes, Mozart is amazing
Wow that was really packed. Absolutely great to see and hear it in a direct genre comparison. Whereas you melted my brain during the romantic part, because as a guitarist I rather belong to the cool swing squad. 😁
😀
Wow, This was very, very INTERESTING!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!🙏🙏🙏
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What a fun exercise!
Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant! I had always wondered what makes different musical styles sound the way they do. Now it's much clearer. As a bonus, I also discovered the importance of carefully choosing your accidentals (in your Romantic example). I had assumed that accidentals were marked by whether the melodic progression was up or down, not thinking that they make a big statement about what the chord is. BTW, the cadence of the Romantic example immediately triggered in my mind the cadence in the Beatle's Let It Be.
Glad it’s inspired some fresh thinking.
I love the romantic style
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@xNoTz thats something else
I definitely like it.
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I can do rock style on this music too
but left hand from rock style will not have chord because it use only 2 note instead 3 note
it mostly using perfect 5th interval
Example
C Chord will omitted 3rd it will play only C and G
I try play rock style it look simple but rhythm when play with right hand
it little bit hard because left hand you will play rhythm like 3+3+2 on 8th note while right hand will play rhythm like 2+2+2+2 on 8th note
Left hand is play like this (8th note)
(C-G) (C) (C) (C-G) (C) (C) (C-G) (C)
(F-C) (F) (F) (F-C) (C-G) (C) (C-G) (C)
while right hand is play like this (8th note)
(C) - (C) - (G) - (G) -
(A) - (A) - (G) - - -
left hand is little bit tricky when chord change in half measure
it look like 3+1+2+2 rhythm instead 3+3+2
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Excellent
Thanks
Thank u :') ur lessons have always improved my musicality
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fantastic, thank you so much for such useful lesson!
Glad it’s helpful
Another excellent video! I have to say I've never liked "Romantic Piano" music. All that thumping away at the dusty end of the keyboard.
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That was delightful! Thank you so much :)
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Thank you so much for this video
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this is GREAT thank you soooo much
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Very interesting and educative. Thanks Gareth. How can I get a pdf?
Thanks. There is a link in the description 👍
Shades of Victor Borge or Dudley Moore! That's not as easy as you made it look. Very enjoyable.
I’m a great fan of both of them. Very funny people and first rate musicians.
Very insightful... Is it possible to explain the same thing for other styles such as pop, rock, heavy metal, electronic, blues, jazz, etc? Any modern genre that you understand?
Any explanation and visual example would be immensely valuable. As much as I love a lot of these styles, I would prefer to understand how to transform from one genre to the next in more modern styles. I have no money to pay to anyone to learn or I would have already sought that route. I tried a free video instruction - but he focused more on my horrible disfigurement than he did on any instruction of musical nature...
We’ll see what we can do
It should also be mentioned that the classical accompaniment of Mozart or Haydn is seldom as banal as shown here. Rather, the Alberti bass shows up only in short passages from time to time, before the rhythm in the accompaniment suddenly changes again, often several times in a row in a relatively short period of time. The rhythm of the accompaniment changes relatively frequently and creatively, especially in the opening sonata movements. Baroque accompaniments are rhythmically far more monotonous than classical ones.
Baroque figures are more consistent rather than monotonous. Agreed re the Alberti. It’s absolutely ideal for a short passage such as this, exactly as Haydn and Mozart do as you say.
@@MusicMattersGB yes you re right, monotonous is not the right term 🙂
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fantastic
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👍great many thanks
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Terrific!!
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awesome thank you
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Played slowly a few parts of that romantic version could be Radiohead!
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I'm curious about the Classical style being written an octave higher than the other arrangements. You didn't mention why that was (or I missed it). Is it to do with keeping the lighter feel of the Classical period or was there another reasoning behind that?
Yes. Lighter texture works better in this style
Wonderful job, dear colleague! You hit the nail doing these different styles! My favorite is the smooth swing version. Very elegant! But every version has its merits! I don't think, you've 'overcooked' the late Romantic version. It's full of very typical and idiomatic things going on, especially the augmented sixth chords (love those!). I did something quite similar on the old Easter chorale melody "Erschienen ist der herrliche Tag" for my students at the University of Protestant Church Music in Halle/Saale (yes, Handel's bithplace! The University is just around the corner of the Handel-House...), but just the music without extended explanations. If you`re interested in my tries on that one: here are my 8 versions of that chorale: th-cam.com/video/jd4BpomAeMM/w-d-xo.html. And in this video I made variations on the German folktune "Kommt ein Vogel geflogen" not only in different composition styles (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Wagner, Mahler, Debussy), but also in regard of their orchestration techniques: th-cam.com/video/U0xDS2VPFwk/w-d-xo.html
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Thank you for a very cool video! 🙏🏼🙂❤️
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For the classical version, didn't Mozart already do that(K.265/300e)?
He did use the tune in a piece in a different way
You good! You good.
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Melody again..
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Lyrics. How do you .. fit that to melody?
Is it the timing of the words or is it the notes of the melody.. how do you add a chorus to a verse?
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14:53 If like me you wanted a refresher on the French 6th, it turns out this video from 2018 covers it really well:
th-cam.com/video/5PtZQEB-d7A/w-d-xo.html
😀
Honestly, I don't see any historical evolution in music. The first two versions sound to me better by far than the third and the fourth. It sounds like if in time they went getting far from the origins.
Different approaches in different times
Fantastic variations, fantastic lesson, however, music educators must be completely unaware that kids and many adults absolutely hate the 'twinkle twinkle' theme (and many other cliche classical themes) due to various real reasons which are inescapable. Music educators continually use it as the foremost example for study of music, apparently believing it's "cute" to do so (?), whereas to appease the anti-twinklers, they should not use it at all. No kidding. Exactly who are all these kids who "go around singing twinkle twinkle", seemingly they are from a different planet?
Phew! Most of our viewers are adults.
Can we have more videos like this
Okay