@Kayenne54 I know, but the embarrassment needs to be pointed out as well as the bad actions of the manager. Karen is doing worse things to a customer than not helping, and the manager is rewarding this behavior while punishing the victim. If bad behavior is rewarded, why stop?
@@kellidinit3725 No, calmly saying "OK see you at the Works Tribunal Hearing, [NAME ON NAME TAG].." is much better, as it'll really put the frighteners on..
OP2: You were physically assaulted. In some places what they did could qualify as kidnapping. Police should have been called. If they treated you that way they're treating others that way.
At the very least, Corporate should be called. Not only did they not apologise, they quickly and quietly threw her out. If I was OP, I'd have been shouting up a storm about not even having the balls to apologise.
The thing that amazes me about this story and hundreds like it is that customers seem to believe that they have a right to be served. It might be different in the USA where this presumably takes place, but here in the UK, with FEW exceptions such as racial profiling, any shop keeper or other service provider can refuse service and doesn't need to give a reason. So would-be customers have no right to expect or demand anything.
@@chrisengland5523 Legally an establishment can refuse service to customers for anything that isn't a protected class. The issue is that doing so may anger the higher ups, and people generally don't want to risk that even when justified (just in case). Especially lower level employees that don't have any real authority to do so.
@@Dubanx So it's much the same as in the UK then. Obviously the management won't be happy if a low level employee doesn't bend to the customer's every wish, but in many of these stories (not this particular one), the Karens threaten to call the police. What are the police going to do? Nothing unless as you point out, the refusal is in what you refer to as a "protected class".
Karens who don't get the hint that someone is a customer need to be banned, IE fired as a customer. Chances are, she is a repeat offender for harassing other customers.
That story sounds very fictional in my opinion. Sounds like Karen I don't work here fanfiction to be honest. Maybe parts of it were true but the OP just added for drama
Im convinced they are so delusional and live in their own fantasy world where they are the Supreme Ruler and think anywhere they go they are the only paying customer and literally hallucinate that everyone else is wearing that stores uniform. Seriously what employee that wants to keep their job is going to repeatedly say i dont work here? I hope one day this happens either to me or in my presence so i know that this shit actually happens and isnt just entertaining made up stories. In fact i went to walmart last week for the first time in god knows how long and i was just hoping to see something like this happen but sadly there didnt seem to be any crazies there at the time
Story 1: they should have turned it around. "Manager, karan has been harassing me. I want HER fired." Karen: what!? I don't work here! Customer: NEITHER DO I!
Yes, way better than pretending to get fired just to please their entitled butt. And if you have more balls, demand service from a karen (where's x / y? you don't know? you are useless employee!) instantly, before a worker / manager enters the picture.
Story 2: If it had been me I would have asked to use the phone, dial 911, and be like Hi, I am at , and I am a minor being held hostage by two big men in the store offices, then hung up. Boy, that'd get some hell fire burning.
@@Kelle0284 Would young person have a cell phone? Was this story even when cell phones began to be given to minors? Insofar as the story goes, when was the abductee given an opportunity to even ask to use a phone? Young teenager is NOT going to make a grab for a desk phone either. Probably even an adult wouldn't, unless they thought they could fight off two large men.
@@Kayenne54 A 14 year old would likely have a cell phone. It would be a felony for those guys to interfere with a 911 call. I wouldn't be worried about "trying to fight off" two large men. They would be going away for a long time.
Like all narcissists, anything beyond what they believe or what they tell themselves is impossible in their eyes, to them they are always in the right and even if they are proven wrong they'll never admit it nor accept it, they are that stuck in their own heads, pretty pathetic when you think about it.
Story 2: what a wasted opportunity... the moment that employee laid his hands on OP, she could've gone full Karen and called the cops on him and the store. One of the few situations where going full Karen would've been justified. It reminded me of another story in this channel where an elderly employee literally kidnapped OP, mistaking him for an employee, took away his walled and threw it in the safe. Upper management ended up firing the employee and giving OP a free laptop to save face.
At the very least, when the manager said "dismissed" me, I'd have said, "I'm not going anywhere, buster. This 'genius' who works for you laid hands on me, dragged me back here against my will, and on false pretenses. If you don't want me to call the cops, you'd better talk fast!"
I agree that OP could have done something, but she was only 13 or 14 and socially awkward. I can't see her going full Karen, justified or not. I would have done the same thing at her age.
After watching these tales, I think I have enough background to insert myself into the situation and be a co-combatant against the karen. These are actually good training.
@@mrcryptozoic817 yes. I've been saving replies to Karen's in my head for the day I meet one. Today's story about asking them if they came from a nursing home and are senile is absolutel gold
Story 2 reminded me of something that happened to my sister when she was sixteen. She and a friend where at Monoprix, (French fancy version of Walmart), and they were looking through some products in the clothes and jewelry department, tried some but didn’t find anything they liked so they left everything in the changing room and where about to leave, until a security guard stopped them from doing so. The guy accused them of stealing and instead of you know, checking their bags for anything or checking the changing rooms he forced them to follow him into the security room. He then showed them the video of them going in and out of the changing room and interrogated and intimidated them for an hour until my mom arrived absolutely furious. My sister and her friends was then able to prove their innocence and my mom demanded some accountability from the shop for falsely accusing my sister and leaving two underage teenagers alone with no one else than a security guard who had been aggressive towards them. The guy was fired. That may seems a bit of an overreaction but normally my sister shouldn’t have gone to the security room before my mom got here, they were supposed to call my mom and wait before she arrives before taking my sister anywhere. My mom is also a sa survivor so she was not amused at the idea of a stranger dragging her teenage daughter to god knows where with no witnesses.
@@Kelle0284 maybe because there was no "you only get one phone call" opportunity in this story? and cell phones haven't always been a 'thing'?? and the girls were young and intimidated? And if it was in the days of public phones, do you think Mr Aggressive would have let them both go out of the store and search for a public phone box? Lol. How it is NOW isn't how it's always been. Example: 2 year old kids only see people in public with masks. They'll think that's how it's always been. But it hasn't, has it? unless you live in Japan, where they politely wear masks if they're coming down with a cold.
@@Kayenne54 It's likely that this happened during the time of cell phones. There's nothing in this story that said, "This took place back in the 50s. I was walking in the store in my poodle skirt and bobby socks".
1st story: WHY THE HELL do karens INSIST on firing people? They don't care if they're not wearing a uniform 2nd story: A karen employer? That's new 3rd story: Taco cart? A Mexican HAS to have a taco truck? 4th story: "Pick up that dog crap" I don't even have a dog 5th story: Why do karens ALWAYS demand respect but never give any
2nd story: I'm pretty sure the employee was the Karen, not the employer, the employer listened to what they had to say and agreed with them, the employee just dragged them to the back of the office right after meeting them
Story 1: Manager "She doesn't work here." Karen "I don't care. Fire her because she was rude." Where is the uno reverse!? All the manager had to do was say "OK, well you're being rude, so YOUR fired." Thank you story 4 for the uno reverse.
Story 2 - I sincerely hope this girl learned from this experience, because if this guy wasn't just some confused employee she could've been in some extreme, life-altering trouble. She let a stranger drag her away from public into a small room with another stranger. I don't think I need to say any more to let imagination take over if this was a darker scenario. Being "shy" and "socially awkward" shouldn't stop you from screaming if a stranger is practically kidnapping you.
I can only think young people like this have been too sheltered. At least one parent should bring up some examples of disturbing scenarios (in a home situation conversation), and discuss what is best to do if this happens, or that happens. Not everyone is nice out there. Sometimes not everyone is nice at home either; but rather than getting bogged down in the emotional aspects of those situations, parent/s, mentors should be guiding young people in how to get out of these situations in the best way. I flat out told my kids (when they were teenagers and had cell phones) if you're in trouble, DON'T CALL ME FIRST. Call the police, if you've still got access to your phone. Don't be dumb.
@@Kayenne54 I’m definitely not sheltered, quite the opposite. Unfortunately I’ve been taught to shut up and just listen to everyone because “everyone else knows better.” Just going is usually my instinctive response. That being said, if some random ass person tells me to follow them into the back room, I’m not gonna follow them. Especially if they’re some rando intimidating guy (I’m a small female, I LOOK like the sort of person that would be kidnapped)
@@Frostfern94 I know how that feels, I'm a naturally meek person, and it took a LOT of neglect and terrible treatment from my family for me to even _slightly_ grow the spine I needed, and I still struggle. If someone did what they did in the second story to me, I'd speak up right away, or at least try harder than the OP, and nowadays I'd have a much more aggressive response. I feel really bad for OP, she must either have been raised to be SUPER timid, or naturally submits to any authority, not a good quality to leave as is...
Any and all uniforms means you work there. The uniform for my business is black pants, a plain white t-shirt and an orange apron with the company name embroideredon it, my staff are always telling me they get IDWHL moments at Walmart.
Story 1: So Karen thinks managers can fire you no matter where you actually work, like if you work at McDonalds, a manager over at the local Best Buy can fire you anyway? Has this person reached peak stupidity, or are there still further levels of stupidity to reach?
It would always be better to 'fire' the Karens/Kevins as customers. Also while they distract with their ridiculous antics, an accomplice is probably shoplifting and entire deep diving suit with flippers. The more bizarre the claims against another customer, the more I suspect shoplifting is going on elsewhere.
I recently read a comment about how the commenter thinks that on some level, most Karens genuinely think the world is "Me, people who do what I say, and managers" and they just translate that to everything, from stores to police (hence them threatening to call the police over things that aren't illegal and demanding the police do as they say). I think that particular Karen is the peak of that thinking, she assumes that anyone with "authority" can just fire anyone who doesn't have it. That, or she was so stuck in her assumption that the OP worked there, that even being outright told didn't penetrate her thick skull and she just heard the Manager "Saying some nonsense about why he WON'T fire her or do what I say" and just rejected it without actually hearing _what_ was being said.
Story 1: don't do this, it might make things easier for the store, but that's also the problem. It feeds the bs that Karen's are peddling. My response? "Bitch, if you're too stupid to recognize the difference between a customer and an employee then I shudder to think how you still have a job" (especially if the uniforms look different)
Story 3: At least it was just out of stress and not of any serious Karen behavior, at least as far as I know. Also, I think not paying any attention to a racist, or at least not giving a s**t, is a pretty good solution.
I wouldn't consider her racist, at least not from anything that occurred in this incident. She was expecting a man of Mexican decent to arrive with a taco cart and probably was not informed of OP's ethnicity. So, seeing OP, a man of Mexican decent, carrying in stuff caused her to make an incorrect assumption. But we all know what they say about assumptions.
@@lukeseguin1875 She knew that was the name of the taco cart she was waiting for. That doesn't mean it was the name of the person who had the cart. Sometimes people attach a name simply because it sounds better or makes it seem more authentic. Yeah, maybe it was a bit rude to not at least ask his name first, but she was stressed and came to a somewhat reasonable conclusion with the information she had. And let's be honest with ourselves here, everyone has stereotyped someone or came to a bit of a racist conclusion, at some point in their life. Not necessarily out of malicious intent or even outside of a few moments within your own head. To claim otherwise is an act of denial. What matters is that you correct yourself once you realize what you did and if necessary apologize.
@Jake Mears lmao, so your defense of its racist is everyone is racist. While you might be right that everyone has biased thoughts and can make mistakes because of them, it does expose what people's biases are and in this case her case it's Mexicans are servants and you can skip about a dozen steps in human communication and just tell them to do things. It's not just about not asking the name. I assume you have never had someone treat you as their servant just because of your race?
@@lukeseguin1875 First, I wasn't defending being racist. There is no defense for it. I don't believe race informed her actions anymore then the fact that she was waiting specifically for someone that shared OP's race and she wasn't expecting anyone else of his race to be there. Second, while you're right that I have never suffered that particular type of prejudice, I have suffered my fair share and have even been hospitalized for it. So I feel I can recognize when it's done with ill intent and am willing to give those who make mistakes, especially ones where those involved were not hurt, and wish to make up for them a break.
"There's no need to be rude!" "Actually yes, there is. There is a need to be rude. If its the only way to get through to you there IS a need to be rude."
Definitely. This. Absolutely this. I used to be friends with a lady who had tendency to be a karen. There was no getting through to her. She had this Grand delusion that if she hadn't heard of something then it didn't exist. If she discovered something, despite it possibly being common knowledge to everyone else, she wasted no time in educating everyone on her new discovery because it obviously had to be new for them as well. In other words I think she was probably a narcissist with sociopathic tendencies. The way she would go out of her way to retaliate against anyone that she felt even minorly slighted by was staggering. Then she set her sights on me. She would always try to dodge accountability by playing the victim or feigning ignorance or even gaslighting through emotional blackmail and mental manipulation. When I wasn't falling for it she started getting very snooty and raising her voice at me. I literally had to yell at her to STFU and it stunned her into silence. She didn't have the audacity to act all offended, then questioned why I was speaking to her like that. I once again told her to STFU and then I went down the litany of atrocity she committed against me that she thought she was so secretive and clever about. In short, she was a liar and a thief and I had everything I needed to Sue her. I knew she'd never have any of the funds to pay me restitution so I took to social media and posted all of my evidence there. Apparently she flipped out and threatened to sue me for libel. It's not liable when it's true and it was all her own words just captured in screenshots. I also later heard that she never got over being vested by me. She shouldn't have screwed with the person who knew all of her secrets
Never answer their questions. They’re just looking for ammo to attack you. Don’t go on the defensive. They know how to attack so if you go on the defensive you’re in the exact position they were trying to get you into. If you fight back they scream that they’re being assaulted. Best bet is to ignore, if they escalate you call for security and the police. They grab your arm, headphones, push you, anything you scream at the top of your voice for security. Let the professional handle it.
Also be ready to physically defend yourself, these Karen's are getting violent now and you may not be able to wait for help to arrive. Pepper spray is useful but check your local jurisdiction's laws surrounding its use
Story 1: I moaned so hard when I realized OP was doing the whole "just pretend to fire me" thing. I hate that so much. Terrible way to do it, the Karen learns nothing and their behavior is reinforced, guaranteeing them to do it again. I really hate OP 1, terrible job and extremely frustrating to listen to.
About a month ago, I discouraged a kid from sticking his hand in the bulk island (where the candy is stored) in my workplace and his dad told me that I should look at people when I talk to them and I told him that since I have Autism, I can't physically do that and listen to them at the same time.
I enjoyed the taco truck story. It reminded me of a few times I've gotten into trouble because I misread the room. Being an inveterate smartass with a wry sense of humor, I've even facetiously confessed to a few misdemeanors when I thought my interlocutor was joking but, as it turned out, they were dead serious. Oopsie!
Story two: in most states, forcing someone to move unlawfully against their will is kidnapping. In my state, the limit is 10 feet. Grabbing her arm and taking her into a back room is definitely kidnapping in my state. She should have sued.
Story One.... So many idiot Karens actually have the gall to believe they can get anyone fired! 🤨 Story two.... Unlawful detention, and assault. OP could have them in a good stiff lawsuit. 🙄 Story three.... Hey Karen, racist much!? 😡 Those Karens who always call someone "rude and disrespectful" are the worst offenders.
How is it racist to think the only Mexican there is the one you booked for food? If OP had not gone along with it. It wouldn't have gone on as long as it did. It was simply a case of misidentification.
Abduction would be the better charge with regards to Story 2, unlawful detention could only be argued if she was stopped from leaving, she wasnt. However the moment he grabbed and dragged her to that room it became an abduction.
What really makes me laugh about these Karen’s is when THEY have the cheek to ask OP’s if they’re stupid and Op has a completely different work uniform’s on or are to young to work. NO Karen look in the mirror and you’ll see the perfect image of Dumb!!😂😂
Story 3: Risky way to de-escalate the situation but with o.p's quick wit and calm demeanour that situation turned into a friendly bit of banter and a good time in the end, Brilliant work from o.p
Story 2 - If I were OP, I'd have said to the boss, "Oh, no, you're not getting off THAT easily!" Then I'd have explained to him what the idiot at the counter did, and I'd have said, "I don't know what kind of amends are appropriate in a situation like this, but if you don't want me to call the cops, you'd better talk fast!" Okay, I realize OP is a minor, and that's a lot to expect of someone that young. If I were OP's father, I'd go down to that store and have a long talk with that manager, and I'd take a cop and a lawyer with me for good measure.
With that second story I'm laying all the blame on that first employee. First, while I can understand mistaking OP for the girl that should have been there as some people, myself included, aren't always the best at faces, especially those we've likely only seen once or twice, he should have verified her name before assuming OP was the late girl. Second, he dragged her to the office. I get he was upset and she started going the wrong way, but he shouldn't have grabbed OP, just told verbally redirected her. The boss didn't seem to do anything wrong besides just assume his employee knew what the girl that was supposed to be there looked like.
He physically grabbed a minor and dragged her out of public view. Jail time is an appropriate response. Termination is insufficient, although no company wants to employ someone who exposes them to that level of liability.
@@danlewis6157 Not sure why you responded to my comment with this, as no one was saying what he did was ok. But it's highly unlikely that he would ever get jail time for it. Courts don't just look at the action itself, but the context surrounding the action and the motivation behind it. He had no nefarious plans and genuinely believed she was this other girl who was late for her first day. As said before, he shouldn't have grabbed and dragged her, but jail time, which is a pretty severe punishment for a lot of people, is a bit harsh. However termination would be a fair punishment, as even if it was the other girl, he shouldn't have grabbed her.
You kidding? The Boss gave an explanation and then more or less had her quietly thrown out! He couldn't have been any more disrespectful if he'd had her thrown out the back so he didn't have to explain to any Customers who enquired about it. Also, he could have offered compensation for the trouble! Was it really that hard for him to say "To make up for it, take this coupon that'll reduce your costs by fifty percent, I insist, and Darren here will personally attend to you, should you want anything you can't reach or isn't on the shelf but is out the back."
pretty wild when these Karens come hot out the gate swinging and then get so triggered at someone being rude back zero self awareness that they were the catalyst
Zero awareness and total narcissism. I used to know someone with the same exact temperament. She literally had to be shouted down like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum in order to get her to shut the hell up. When I finally went drill sergeant on her and took her to tasks on all of her toxic behavior that led me to and the friendship, she turned into a stuttering, splattering mess. She went through all the stages of grief including squeezing out crocodile tears while engaging in revisionist history trying to avoid accountability through deflection, blame shifting, after me. I told her stupid cronies to back off because they had obviously been lied to and if they even stopped to think about what she had told them, they would know that she lies every time she opens her mouth. I also told them that they would all be named in a harassment and libel suit if they didn't back off. The mere mention of getting the law involved make the harassment temporarily stop. Naturally, being a total karen, my former friend would not rest because she couldn't handle not having her way. When word got back to her, that I was contemplating suing her for defamation of character, slander, libel, harassment and a slew of other things that I had proof of, she suddenly turned into a ghost. I can only suspect that she crawled back down to the circle of hell from whence she came
The "dog crap" story, was OP walking an invisible dog? Why would he clean up doggy doo if he didn't have a dog with him? Some people! His come back was amazing!🤣😂
Never do a fake firing of a fake employee. All it teaches these karens is that if they yell and scream loud enough they can get their way and so they'll keep on pulling this with other people. I know you just want to go along to get along and get rid of her as quick as possible but you're doing the world a favor by standing up to them where you can.
Does Karen think Air B&B is some sort of corporate property management company with onsite staff and all that? If Karens couldn't Karen, their lives would loose all meaning. LOL
Last story: I can completely verify that people will not read instructions. Part of my job is to run a training course, and it takes some pre-course work on my part to set up a training account for every individual participant. Because of this, I have a strict deadline as to when you can register for the course, registration closes a day and a half prior to the start time, which gives me time to assign the accounts and for the participants to follow the pre-class instructions to check their logins and contact me if there is an issue. The instructions page clearly state, in large red bolded letters to boot, both at the beginning and end of the instructions, that the registration deadline is firm, exceptions cannot be made, late registrations are not considered, please register for the next class if you miss the date, etc. And yet, about 8 out of 10 times, (I run the course twice a month), someone will message me the day of the course as to why they didnt get the course meeting invitation and can't get in after trying to sign up past the deadline date. It really is very annoying.
Story 1: DEFINITELY a mistake to play along, by both parties, I agree and glad you said it. I remember one story where a manager tried that and the customer refused to be fake fired, THAT is the right choice. Story 2: Assaulted a girl - even if she WAS the right one - a minor, dragging her around against her will instead of USING THEIR WORDS? And EARS? COMPLETELY wrong! Then kicking A CUSTOMER out for their own mistake? You're offended she didn't magically become the worker you mistook her for? So ridiculously wrong. Get police involved.
Story 5: The age and autism comments were more disrespectful than Karen perceived OP to be. And yeah, never say that you have some sort of neurodivergence around a Karen since their only personality is just being an a-hole to anyone that has a disability of some sort and then acting like victims when rightfully punished or admonished
I often times have people tell me that I look normal, and I am like, what is normal? a setting on a washing machine? Like seriously, people. Autism doesn't have a look and certainly, people with Autism aren't dumb or stupid, they just express things different.
@@Yumi_Jay fpr example i think more logically than emotionally, it helps deal with stress, grief, depression etc but the cons are while i see something being more logical done a certain way it often offends others, eg my grandfather passed away two years ago, he was basically my dad as he raised me, (my parents were druggies and my dad abandoned me entirely), i didnt wanna visit him in the hospital before dying, i feel bad for it but i have identic memory, i wanna remember the good not have remember him being a mess in hospital suffering from dementia, similarly with my dad, hes in hospital dying from his dumbass ways, he messaged me to try and reconnect, i ignored him and continued living, to some thats a bad thing, to me hes not family anymore and to visit or reconnect would be a waste of time and energy i could have spent elsewhere. Yet normal people would at least pay a visit as both are family regardless of what bad could or would happen.
@@MrBounceoutboi Same here. I’m good logically but I have trouble really understanding emotions. I hate it because I really attempt to understand but my brain just kind of says no.
@@Mikustan39 tell me about it, it adds to my inability to socialise and understand wither or not a girl likes me. i can tell when they're being nice and when being nice coz im the customer, but when reading screens i fail, see the words but i dont see the emotion in them, or when someone suddenly acts different around me, coz i see more logically and have been hurt before i go into defence mode immediately thinking oh fuck they hate me, Ive done something to annoy them, and all thats happened is they gotten closer to me and like me more only to have me suddenly ignore them thinking distance will fix it as I've been getting to close and annoyed them, inadvertently damaging the relationship etc
About story with the girl and the jeans store. WOW. If that was me, I would have screamed and punched the guy for putting hands on me. Also called the police. As I was listening to the story. My heart went ice cold. I thought the girl was going to be assaulted worse. How terrifying for her. If they do this to a random customer, they could have done much worse. Maybe the employee who did not show up was told, or something and just quit before coming in. Hope she didn't go in there. God, what could have they done to her? Always call the police if anyone puts hands on you. Scream, make lots of noise, yell fire or anything to get help from someone nearby. That could save your life. If they don't let go use your nails or even you car keys go for the eyes or if male aim much lower and twist. Stomp on the top of their foot. Any thing to get them off of you. You must fight as dirty as you can. You can deal with the police later. Just save your life first.
#1 Nobody should ever enact any sort of fake firing to placate any Karen. It just reinforce them in their entitlement, and that's very bad. Just insist that this consumer DO NOT work there. If that don't work, call security to throw the Karen out while clearly stating that she's now banned from the place. #4 That's one way to deal with Karens.
Time out, time out. TIME OUT! No no no no no no no... hell to the NO! Do not let them win! They'll just keep doing it. Go drill sergeant on the Karen, make her cry and wet her Depends and then she may leave others alone. Sorry for the rant... I only got as far as story one and had to respond for all the sane, civilized people.
Story 1: If it was me, I would go the drama path. I would be asking how my seven siblings under age 12 and disabled parents eat complete with water works. I would then demand her name and where she worked at, and go completely over the top.
About the first story, yes DarkFluff! The manager, by acting the way he did, enabled the crazy b***h and it’s definitely not the right way to deal with that kind of craziness.
The first story: never placate a Karen. It only emboldens them and reinforces their negative behavior as well as their lack of respect for boundaries, zero comprehension that the word no is totally valid response as well as a complete sentence or that there are reprisals as well as consequences for their actions. The manager is definitely in the wrong for playing along to get Karen out of his hair.
I'm deeply disappointed in the first story. I really looked forward to OP accepting being fired and telling Karen whats what and whos who since she 'no longer works at the store'.
@Chrisxerri I have Asperger's a form of autism and this happened before I was diagnosed at age 31 I was at Goodwill Industries getting computer and job training my job specialist thought it'd be fun if I worked at a comic book store so she took me there but when the manager saw and heard about me he said we don't hire retards....god I hate myself I hope you will reply to this
The thing that infuriates me about the fake firing stories is that you never know who else might see the event without knowing the context: junior supervisors, subordinates, customers. This could seriously affect morale and authority later. Worse, a customer could easily assume that if the manager has so little respect for employees or the law, they might be cutting corners elsewhere in the business. A single fake firing could easily have a huge snowball effect, especially when it happens at the front of the store where it could be seen by dozens of people.
“Corporate needs you to find the difference between two pictures.” (Person wearing a vest and regular clothing) (Person wearing a blue vest with a name tag and casual business clothing.) Karen: *THEY’RE THE SAME PICTURE!*
Managers should NEVER pretend to fire someone, that just encourages these horrible customers to think they can get people fired any time they want. Don't do that!
I wanna share a short one. I was at my local Tesco last week to buy a pair of new shoes. I found a style I like but not sure if there were any in my size. I saw a woman arranging shoes and asked her if she knew there were my size for those shoes. She replied "I'm just a promoter (representative for a different shoe brand who goes to supers and hypers to check and replenish stock for shoes under the brand, in other words she doesn't work for Tesco or the brand of shoe I was holding), sorry." I left her alone after that. Got another design that actually had my size.
Story 1, OH HELL NO!!! "LAdy, I want your name and place of employment, I'm going to call your boss and have YOU fired for harassing people at the store and being dumb as a box of rocks." "Now get away from me before I call the police and have you charged with harassment" NEVER let them think they won!
Story 2 - That is called abduction. No matter if they are an employee or not it is NOT legal for anyone to lay hands on you unless they are law enforcement or you are in immediate danger. Dragging OP to the office like that was abduction and it should have been reported. Story 6 - OP should have gone "Oh, one moment let me call Airbnb for you." then called Airbnb, explain the situation to them, give them the airbnb address and while on the phone ask Sylvia for her last name and give that. Then explain on how abusive they have just been to you, a neighbor.. Then watch as Sylvia and co get a call informing them their reservation has been cancelled due to breach of terms.
I've learned that being oblivious to the people around you and staring at them with an emotionless expression when they try to give you a negative confrontation helps out a lot. For some reason, this amused the people in my high school and I was voted "Most Unique" for the yearbook. I thought about telling them that "Unique" does not come in terms of degrees and there can't be a "Most" version of it, but that would have required me caring enough to talk about it.
@MrBounceoutboi I'm like you I have Asperger's a form of autism I wasn't diagnosed till I was 31 because no doctor would listen to my mother...before I was diagnosed I was at Goodwill Industries getting computer and job training my job specialist at Goodwill thought it would be a fun job if I worked at a comic book store she took me over there but when the manager saw me and heard about me he said we don't hire retards...god I hate myself I wish I was never born I hope you will reply to this
Story 5: Yeah, OP needs to be more careful about who they reveal their autism to. Using it as an excuse or any kind of explanation about yourself to a stranger is an incredibly risky move. Some will understand, but those who already have the wrong idea will either pity you or use it as ammo. If it's not a necessary detail, just keep your mouth shut.
Probably best to never share personal info at any point, really. If logic and rationality aren't their strong suit, then empathy and compassion won't be either.
#1) It doesn't matter what you wear when you're shopping, entitled people see *any* uniform at all and somehow think they have the privilege of making the person in that uniform not only their personal servant, but also subject to their abuse. Managers encourage customer abuse by fake firing customers instead of escorting the Karens out of the store, trespassing when warranted, and banning them. #3) This guy has the best sense of humor! I'm surprised he didn't throw in a lawn edging joke while he was at it. Smartassery for the win. #4) I'm going to remember this line; it's phenomenal. Call the nursing home to pick the senile Karen up. Brilliant.
As an Autistic aggressive people, bullies and Karens spike my anxiety to the point where it's impossible to communicate. When I had trouble with a male Karen who spiked my anxiety and anger to the point where I was struggling to resist the urge to hurt him, I followed an old therapist's advice and called the cops and the only people that I could tell that I'm Autistic were the cops.
@Genin99 I'm like you I have Aaperger's a form of autism my mother was sure I had it when I was a kid but no doctor would listen to her so I wasn't diagnosed till I was 31...because I have a form of autism I been called retarded or a retard....god a lot of times I wish I were never born......I hope you will reply to this
Karens. Minds clouded by frustration and eyes clouded by hate. The moment they see someone that is even partly similar to the shop employees, they start their tirade to make life miserable for strangers and the staff so they can get their way with no heed of human decency.
POV: you’re stuck at home Covid positive, and need a good laugh. Then DarkFluff posts a new karen video, *laughing fit ensues* thank you so much for this entertaining content @DarkFluff
On the first story... Poetic justice would have been if the non employee asked to get the employee discount before they left, and the manager giving it to them
Oh lord, I think I might actually know the crematoria OP, or at the very least, I can relate with a fellow professional who goes through this same stuff on a daily basis.
The first one was gold. Someone that stupid will be 8mune to logic or inadvertent encouragement. At leases the manager and 'fired wokrker' could enjoy the moment of connection in understanding and recognition and have fun with it, and give the world a chuckle with the story!
Story #1: I would have fired Karen, for hassling a manager for such a petty work place thing. "Karen I am sorry but I am going to fire you instead, your inability to work well with others and problem solve on your own has showed that you are not a fit for this company, as such I would like you to reflect on your experience here as one of our older members and ask your self, was it worth it? good bye Karen.
Wholesome IDWHL story, happened to me: I'm an EMT. I was in uniform at a local fast food place, waiting on lunch for me and my partner. (He was in the ambulance, taking care of stuff. We had already ordered and paid.) A pair of ladies were sitting at a table, and one asked me for utensils for her meal. It took a few tries, but her friend finally managed to clue her about my actual profession. I went and got the utensils anyway, since I wasn't busy. She apologized for the mix-up and thanked me for my help. Not exactly a thrilling story, but 100% true. Nice to know not all mistakes end in shame.
*Sprays the manager in the first story with water* BAD! BAD MANAGER! NO APPEASING KARENS!
"You're too stupid to do your job." Bold words for someone who can't comprehend, "you're talking to the wrong people, here's a phone number."
Also, ironically, Autistic people on average are smarter.
I mean, I'm dumb as freaking bricks but that's got nothing to do with my Autism.
They shame REAL people who have autism like me while throwing off their crotch goblins as having autism. See you in Hell Hitler. SEE YOU IN HELL.
Story 2. I do NOT care. Employee or not, shy or not, I'd have been pressing so many charges.
same
I feel like as a teen who is trying to be more independent would not think like this and more likely want to get away from the whole situation.
The "fired" OP needs to tell the manager okay but if you don't fire that rude Karen also I will sue for discrimination and public embarrassment.
Don't think there's a law against being embarrassed in public. Harassed, yes. Irrational behaviour, public nuisance, disturbing the peace...
@Kayenne54 I know, but the embarrassment needs to be pointed out as well as the bad actions of the manager. Karen is doing worse things to a customer than not helping, and the manager is rewarding this behavior while punishing the victim. If bad behavior is rewarded, why stop?
I would have screamed, YOU CANT FIRE ME, I QUIT! 😂😂😂
@@kellidinit3725 No, calmly saying "OK see you at the Works Tribunal Hearing, [NAME ON NAME TAG].." is much better, as it'll really put the frighteners on..
Should've turned it around on her and told the manager you wanted Karen fired for harassing customers. Keep insisting to fire her. HAHA
OP2: You were physically assaulted. In some places what they did could qualify as kidnapping. Police should have been called. If they treated you that way they're treating others that way.
Our you can always defend yourself
I would have made a note of the contact information on the job application, contacted the applicant and told her to quit before she started.
At the very least, Corporate should be called. Not only did they not apologise, they quickly and quietly threw her out.
If I was OP, I'd have been shouting up a storm about not even having the balls to apologise.
Story 1: For the love all that's good, we have to stop appeasing Karens like these!
That was my thoughts exactly too. You're just encouraging them to cause trouble for more people with that shit.
The thing that amazes me about this story and hundreds like it is that customers seem to believe that they have a right to be served. It might be different in the USA where this presumably takes place, but here in the UK, with FEW exceptions such as racial profiling, any shop keeper or other service provider can refuse service and doesn't need to give a reason. So would-be customers have no right to expect or demand anything.
@@chrisengland5523
Legally an establishment can refuse service to customers for anything that isn't a protected class.
The issue is that doing so may anger the higher ups, and people generally don't want to risk that even when justified (just in case). Especially lower level employees that don't have any real authority to do so.
@@Dubanx So it's much the same as in the UK then. Obviously the management won't be happy if a low level employee doesn't bend to the customer's every wish, but in many of these stories (not this particular one), the Karens threaten to call the police. What are the police going to do? Nothing unless as you point out, the refusal is in what you refer to as a "protected class".
Stores needs to stop hiring spineless managers.
Karens who don't get the hint that someone is a customer need to be banned, IE fired as a customer. Chances are, she is a repeat offender for harassing other customers.
Karens are so entitled that they’ll try and get you fired and call the manager even if you are a customer 😂
"Won't leave til someone is fired? Fine. Karen, YOU are FIRED! As a customer. Get out!" 😡
That doesn't sound correct... Bring your manager here ಠωಠ I want to make a complaint
You don't have to be a customer, you can be in the parking lot, down the street,in the city
That story sounds very fictional in my opinion. Sounds like Karen I don't work here fanfiction to be honest. Maybe parts of it were true but the OP just added for drama
Im convinced they are so delusional and live in their own fantasy world where they are the Supreme Ruler and think anywhere they go they are the only paying customer and literally hallucinate that everyone else is wearing that stores uniform. Seriously what employee that wants to keep their job is going to repeatedly say i dont work here? I hope one day this happens either to me or in my presence so i know that this shit actually happens and isnt just entertaining made up stories. In fact i went to walmart last week for the first time in god knows how long and i was just hoping to see something like this happen but sadly there didnt seem to be any crazies there at the time
Story 1: they should have turned it around. "Manager, karan has been harassing me. I want HER fired."
Karen: what!? I don't work here!
Customer: NEITHER DO I!
I like that.😂🤣😂
Yes, way better than pretending to get fired just to please their entitled butt.
And if you have more balls, demand service from a karen (where's x / y? you don't know? you are useless employee!) instantly, before a worker / manager enters the picture.
Or "Karen has been harassing me. I want her removed and permanently banned from this store--and all the other stores in the chain!!!!!!"
@@johnburnside7828 that seems a little but much for your average store manager.
Or agree with Karen, that you want to be fired to get unemployment
The girl looking to buy jeans should not have been escorted from the store. She was in no way responsible for the misunderstanding.
Story 2: If it had been me I would have asked to use the phone, dial 911, and be like Hi, I am at , and I am a minor being held hostage by two big men in the store offices, then hung up. Boy, that'd get some hell fire burning.
Why would you need permission to take out your phone? If he tried to stop you, that would have put him in even more trouble.
@@Kelle0284 Would young person have a cell phone? Was this story even when cell phones began to be given to minors? Insofar as the story goes, when was the abductee given an opportunity to even ask to use a phone? Young teenager is NOT going to make a grab for a desk phone either. Probably even an adult wouldn't, unless they thought they could fight off two large men.
@@Kayenne54 A 14 year old would likely have a cell phone. It would be a felony for those guys to interfere with a 911 call. I wouldn't be worried about "trying to fight off" two large men. They would be going away for a long time.
I can’t understand how people could be so delusional. “Yes I got you fired, so just gather up your groceries and leave. This makes total sense”
In fiction, anything is possible.
Sometimes people like to think they’re right when they knew they’re dead wrong
Like all narcissists, anything beyond what they believe or what they tell themselves is impossible in their eyes, to them they are always in the right and even if they are proven wrong they'll never admit it nor accept it, they are that stuck in their own heads, pretty pathetic when you think about it.
It's how people end up believing in trump, brexit or the tooth fairy.
Story 2: what a wasted opportunity... the moment that employee laid his hands on OP, she could've gone full Karen and called the cops on him and the store. One of the few situations where going full Karen would've been justified.
It reminded me of another story in this channel where an elderly employee literally kidnapped OP, mistaking him for an employee, took away his walled and threw it in the safe. Upper management ended up firing the employee and giving OP a free laptop to save face.
Either that or she could had defend herself
At the very least, when the manager said "dismissed" me, I'd have said, "I'm not going anywhere, buster. This 'genius' who works for you laid hands on me, dragged me back here against my will, and on false pretenses. If you don't want me to call the cops, you'd better talk fast!"
I agree that OP could have done something, but she was only 13 or 14 and socially awkward. I can't see her going full Karen, justified or not. I would have done the same thing at her age.
I think that was a Tales From Walmart story.
It's not going Karen when you're basically assaulted and kidnapped by someone particularly a much larger adult it's justified defending yourself.
Second story could have called the police for assault and unlawful detainment
Agreed, but remember this happened to someone who is barely a teenager. They have a hard time sticking up for themselves.
@@bendorman2930 True enough, but I think she should have told her parents about it. If that were my daughter, that store would be in some BIG trouble!
After watching these tales, I think I have enough background to insert myself into the situation and be a co-combatant against the karen. These are actually good training.
@@mrcryptozoic817 yes. I've been saving replies to Karen's in my head for the day I meet one.
Today's story about asking them if they came from a nursing home and are senile is absolutel gold
Don't ever satisfy an entitled Karen/Kyle...nope, not allowed!
Story 2 reminded me of something that happened to my sister when she was sixteen. She and a friend where at Monoprix, (French fancy version of Walmart), and they were looking through some products in the clothes and jewelry department, tried some but didn’t find anything they liked so they left everything in the changing room and where about to leave, until a security guard stopped them from doing so. The guy accused them of stealing and instead of you know, checking their bags for anything or checking the changing rooms he forced them to follow him into the security room. He then showed them the video of them going in and out of the changing room and interrogated and intimidated them for an hour until my mom arrived absolutely furious. My sister and her friends was then able to prove their innocence and my mom demanded some accountability from the shop for falsely accusing my sister and leaving two underage teenagers alone with no one else than a security guard who had been aggressive towards them. The guy was fired. That may seems a bit of an overreaction but normally my sister shouldn’t have gone to the security room before my mom got here, they were supposed to call my mom and wait before she arrives before taking my sister anywhere. My mom is also a sa survivor so she was not amused at the idea of a stranger dragging her teenage daughter to god knows where with no witnesses.
Why did your sister and friends wait an hour to call someone? I would have called someone right away.
@@Kelle0284 maybe because there was no "you only get one phone call" opportunity in this story? and cell phones haven't always been a 'thing'?? and the girls were young and intimidated? And if it was in the days of public phones, do you think Mr Aggressive would have let them both go out of the store and search for a public phone box? Lol. How it is NOW isn't how it's always been. Example: 2 year old kids only see people in public with masks. They'll think that's how it's always been. But it hasn't, has it? unless you live in Japan, where they politely wear masks if they're coming down with a cold.
@@Kayenne54 It's likely that this happened during the time of cell phones. There's nothing in this story that said, "This took place back in the 50s. I was walking in the store in my poodle skirt and bobby socks".
@@Kelle0284 it took her an hour to arrive because it was a week day and my mom worked far away from the store. My sis called her asap.
In a case like this you call the police and press charges and then call the corporate office and let them know what happened.
1st story: WHY THE HELL do karens INSIST on firing people? They don't care if they're not wearing a uniform
2nd story: A karen employer? That's new
3rd story: Taco cart? A Mexican HAS to have a taco truck?
4th story: "Pick up that dog crap"
I don't even have a dog
5th story: Why do karens ALWAYS demand respect but never give any
2nd story: I'm pretty sure the employee was the Karen, not the employer, the employer listened to what they had to say and agreed with them, the employee just dragged them to the back of the office right after meeting them
Story 1: Manager "She doesn't work here."
Karen "I don't care. Fire her because she was rude."
Where is the uno reverse!? All the manager had to do was say "OK, well you're being rude, so YOUR fired."
Thank you story 4 for the uno reverse.
Story 2 - I sincerely hope this girl learned from this experience, because if this guy wasn't just some confused employee she could've been in some extreme, life-altering trouble. She let a stranger drag her away from public into a small room with another stranger. I don't think I need to say any more to let imagination take over if this was a darker scenario. Being "shy" and "socially awkward" shouldn't stop you from screaming if a stranger is practically kidnapping you.
I can only think young people like this have been too sheltered. At least one parent should bring up some examples of disturbing scenarios (in a home situation conversation), and discuss what is best to do if this happens, or that happens. Not everyone is nice out there. Sometimes not everyone is nice at home either; but rather than getting bogged down in the emotional aspects of those situations, parent/s, mentors should be guiding young people in how to get out of these situations in the best way. I flat out told my kids (when they were teenagers and had cell phones) if you're in trouble, DON'T CALL ME FIRST. Call the police, if you've still got access to your phone. Don't be dumb.
@@Kayenne54 I’m definitely not sheltered, quite the opposite. Unfortunately I’ve been taught to shut up and just listen to everyone because “everyone else knows better.”
Just going is usually my instinctive response.
That being said, if some random ass person tells me to follow them into the back room, I’m not gonna follow them. Especially if they’re some rando intimidating guy (I’m a small female, I LOOK like the sort of person that would be kidnapped)
@@Frostfern94 I know how that feels, I'm a naturally meek person, and it took a LOT of neglect and terrible treatment from my family for me to even _slightly_ grow the spine I needed, and I still struggle.
If someone did what they did in the second story to me, I'd speak up right away, or at least try harder than the OP, and nowadays I'd have a much more aggressive response. I feel really bad for OP, she must either have been raised to be SUPER timid, or naturally submits to any authority, not a good quality to leave as is...
Any and all uniforms means you work there. The uniform for my business is black pants, a plain white t-shirt and an orange apron with the company name embroideredon it, my staff are always telling me they get IDWHL moments at Walmart.
Story 1: So Karen thinks managers can fire you no matter where you actually work, like if you work at McDonalds, a manager over at the local Best Buy can fire you anyway? Has this person reached peak stupidity, or are there still further levels of stupidity to reach?
There are hundreds or more levels.
karens see that as a personal challenge when you ask ‘How Stupid Can You Be?!’
It would always be better to 'fire' the Karens/Kevins as customers. Also while they distract with their ridiculous antics, an accomplice is probably shoplifting and entire deep diving suit with flippers. The more bizarre the claims against another customer, the more I suspect shoplifting is going on elsewhere.
I recently read a comment about how the commenter thinks that on some level, most Karens genuinely think the world is "Me, people who do what I say, and managers" and they just translate that to everything, from stores to police (hence them threatening to call the police over things that aren't illegal and demanding the police do as they say). I think that particular Karen is the peak of that thinking, she assumes that anyone with "authority" can just fire anyone who doesn't have it.
That, or she was so stuck in her assumption that the OP worked there, that even being outright told didn't penetrate her thick skull and she just heard the Manager "Saying some nonsense about why he WON'T fire her or do what I say" and just rejected it without actually hearing _what_ was being said.
Story 1: don't do this, it might make things easier for the store, but that's also the problem. It feeds the bs that Karen's are peddling. My response?
"Bitch, if you're too stupid to recognize the difference between a customer and an employee then I shudder to think how you still have a job" (especially if the uniforms look different)
Story 3: At least it was just out of stress and not of any serious Karen behavior, at least as far as I know. Also, I think not paying any attention to a racist, or at least not giving a s**t, is a pretty good solution.
I wouldn't consider her racist, at least not from anything that occurred in this incident. She was expecting a man of Mexican decent to arrive with a taco cart and probably was not informed of OP's ethnicity. So, seeing OP, a man of Mexican decent, carrying in stuff caused her to make an incorrect assumption. But we all know what they say about assumptions.
@Jake Mears it's a lil racist, she didn't ask the guys name and she knew she eas waiting for Pedro.
@@lukeseguin1875 She knew that was the name of the taco cart she was waiting for. That doesn't mean it was the name of the person who had the cart. Sometimes people attach a name simply because it sounds better or makes it seem more authentic. Yeah, maybe it was a bit rude to not at least ask his name first, but she was stressed and came to a somewhat reasonable conclusion with the information she had. And let's be honest with ourselves here, everyone has stereotyped someone or came to a bit of a racist conclusion, at some point in their life. Not necessarily out of malicious intent or even outside of a few moments within your own head. To claim otherwise is an act of denial. What matters is that you correct yourself once you realize what you did and if necessary apologize.
@Jake Mears lmao, so your defense of its racist is everyone is racist. While you might be right that everyone has biased thoughts and can make mistakes because of them, it does expose what people's biases are and in this case her case it's Mexicans are servants and you can skip about a dozen steps in human communication and just tell them to do things. It's not just about not asking the name. I assume you have never had someone treat you as their servant just because of your race?
@@lukeseguin1875 First, I wasn't defending being racist. There is no defense for it. I don't believe race informed her actions anymore then the fact that she was waiting specifically for someone that shared OP's race and she wasn't expecting anyone else of his race to be there. Second, while you're right that I have never suffered that particular type of prejudice, I have suffered my fair share and have even been hospitalized for it. So I feel I can recognize when it's done with ill intent and am willing to give those who make mistakes, especially ones where those involved were not hurt, and wish to make up for them a break.
Story 1: I would’ve gone off on that manager for playing along with her delusions
OP was encouraging the manager to do so.
@@Kelle0284 op was dumb af then
"There's no need to be rude!"
"Actually yes, there is. There is a need to be rude. If its the only way to get through to you there IS a need to be rude."
Definitely. This. Absolutely this. I used to be friends with a lady who had tendency to be a karen. There was no getting through to her. She had this Grand delusion that if she hadn't heard of something then it didn't exist. If she discovered something, despite it possibly being common knowledge to everyone else, she wasted no time in educating everyone on her new discovery because it obviously had to be new for them as well. In other words I think she was probably a narcissist with sociopathic tendencies. The way she would go out of her way to retaliate against anyone that she felt even minorly slighted by was staggering. Then she set her sights on me. She would always try to dodge accountability by playing the victim or feigning ignorance or even gaslighting through emotional blackmail and mental manipulation. When I wasn't falling for it she started getting very snooty and raising her voice at me. I literally had to yell at her to STFU and it stunned her into silence. She didn't have the audacity to act all offended, then questioned why I was speaking to her like that. I once again told her to STFU and then I went down the litany of atrocity she committed against me that she thought she was so secretive and clever about. In short, she was a liar and a thief and I had everything I needed to Sue her. I knew she'd never have any of the funds to pay me restitution so I took to social media and posted all of my evidence there. Apparently she flipped out and threatened to sue me for libel. It's not liable when it's true and it was all her own words just captured in screenshots. I also later heard that she never got over being vested by me. She shouldn't have screwed with the person who knew all of her secrets
I would have pressed charges against the two managers for forcible kidnapping and sued the store.
Never answer their questions. They’re just looking for ammo to attack you. Don’t go on the defensive. They know how to attack so if you go on the defensive you’re in the exact position they were trying to get you into. If you fight back they scream that they’re being assaulted. Best bet is to ignore, if they escalate you call for security and the police.
They grab your arm, headphones, push you, anything you scream at the top of your voice for security. Let the professional handle it.
Absolutely. What I've been saying all along. And never turn your back on a threat; put distance or objects between you and Crazy.
Also be ready to physically defend yourself, these Karen's are getting violent now and you may not be able to wait for help to arrive. Pepper spray is useful but check your local jurisdiction's laws surrounding its use
Story 1: I moaned so hard when I realized OP was doing the whole "just pretend to fire me" thing. I hate that so much. Terrible way to do it, the Karen learns nothing and their behavior is reinforced, guaranteeing them to do it again. I really hate OP 1, terrible job and extremely frustrating to listen to.
About a month ago, I discouraged a kid from sticking his hand in the bulk island (where the candy is stored) in my workplace and his dad told me that I should look at people when I talk to them and I told him that since I have Autism, I can't physically do that and listen to them at the same time.
"Sir, I shouldn't have to be the one to tell your kid not to try and harm himself in my workplace. That's your job". Autism, not his business.
I enjoyed the taco truck story. It reminded me of a few times I've gotten into trouble because I misread the room. Being an inveterate smartass with a wry sense of humor, I've even facetiously confessed to a few misdemeanors when I thought my interlocutor was joking but, as it turned out, they were dead serious. Oopsie!
Smartassery forever! Long live us smartasses!
Story two: in most states, forcing someone to move unlawfully against their will is kidnapping. In my state, the limit is 10 feet. Grabbing her arm and taking her into a back room is definitely kidnapping in my state. She should have sued.
Story One.... So many idiot Karens actually have the gall to believe they can get anyone fired! 🤨
Story two.... Unlawful detention, and assault. OP could have them in a good stiff lawsuit. 🙄
Story three.... Hey Karen, racist much!? 😡
Those Karens who always call someone "rude and disrespectful" are the worst offenders.
Not to mention being kicked out right after when she did nothing wrong.
Story Three: dude, learn to read.
Most Latinos dont give a crap about whites getting offended by anything
The Karens who call normal peoples «rude» and «disrespectful» are only projecting their own rudeness and utter lack of respect onto others.
How is it racist to think the only Mexican there is the one you booked for food? If OP had not gone along with it. It wouldn't have gone on as long as it did. It was simply a case of misidentification.
Abduction would be the better charge with regards to Story 2, unlawful detention could only be argued if she was stopped from leaving, she wasnt. However the moment he grabbed and dragged her to that room it became an abduction.
Story 1: "well ma'am(Karen), you also don't work here and are being rude to a stranger. I guess I have to fire you too."
Story 1 This is why I learned how to purposely clap as loud as possible. Nothing shuts a Karen up like "I👏 DONT👏 WORK👏 HERE👏" in their face
As someone who’s neurodivergent that Karen in story 5 made me angry. How rude and disrespectful. That poor OP 😞
Same. I would have been sobbing. 😭 I don't do well with people treating me like that.
The proper response to, “Excuse Me!”, in these circumstances is, “There is no excuse for your stupidity!”
If she thinks he can fire someone who doesn't work there....fire the karen!
What really makes me laugh about these Karen’s is when THEY have the cheek to ask OP’s if they’re stupid and Op has a completely different work uniform’s on or are to young to work. NO Karen look in the mirror and you’ll see the perfect image of Dumb!!😂😂
Yes they're total thickos but too stupid to know it
Story 3: Risky way to de-escalate the situation but with o.p's quick wit and calm demeanour that situation turned into a friendly bit of banter and a good time in the end, Brilliant work from o.p
Another way is get security to remove Karen from the property. If she resists, spray or tase her. If she resists further, shoot her.
Story 2 - If I were OP, I'd have said to the boss, "Oh, no, you're not getting off THAT easily!" Then I'd have explained to him what the idiot at the counter did, and I'd have said, "I don't know what kind of amends are appropriate in a situation like this, but if you don't want me to call the cops, you'd better talk fast!" Okay, I realize OP is a minor, and that's a lot to expect of someone that young. If I were OP's father, I'd go down to that store and have a long talk with that manager, and I'd take a cop and a lawyer with me for good measure.
With that second story I'm laying all the blame on that first employee. First, while I can understand mistaking OP for the girl that should have been there as some people, myself included, aren't always the best at faces, especially those we've likely only seen once or twice, he should have verified her name before assuming OP was the late girl. Second, he dragged her to the office. I get he was upset and she started going the wrong way, but he shouldn't have grabbed OP, just told verbally redirected her. The boss didn't seem to do anything wrong besides just assume his employee knew what the girl that was supposed to be there looked like.
He physically grabbed a minor and dragged her out of public view. Jail time is an appropriate response. Termination is insufficient, although no company wants to employ someone who exposes them to that level of liability.
@@danlewis6157 Not sure why you responded to my comment with this, as no one was saying what he did was ok. But it's highly unlikely that he would ever get jail time for it. Courts don't just look at the action itself, but the context surrounding the action and the motivation behind it. He had no nefarious plans and genuinely believed she was this other girl who was late for her first day. As said before, he shouldn't have grabbed and dragged her, but jail time, which is a pretty severe punishment for a lot of people, is a bit harsh. However termination would be a fair punishment, as even if it was the other girl, he shouldn't have grabbed her.
You kidding? The Boss gave an explanation and then more or less had her quietly thrown out! He couldn't have been any more disrespectful if he'd had her thrown out the back so he didn't have to explain to any Customers who enquired about it.
Also, he could have offered compensation for the trouble! Was it really that hard for him to say "To make up for it, take this coupon that'll reduce your costs by fifty percent, I insist, and Darren here will personally attend to you, should you want anything you can't reach or isn't on the shelf but is out the back."
pretty wild when these Karens come hot out the gate swinging and then get so triggered at someone being rude back
zero self awareness that they were the catalyst
Zero awareness and total narcissism. I used to know someone with the same exact temperament. She literally had to be shouted down like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum in order to get her to shut the hell up. When I finally went drill sergeant on her and took her to tasks on all of her toxic behavior that led me to and the friendship, she turned into a stuttering, splattering mess. She went through all the stages of grief including squeezing out crocodile tears while engaging in revisionist history trying to avoid accountability through deflection, blame shifting, after me. I told her stupid cronies to back off because they had obviously been lied to and if they even stopped to think about what she had told them, they would know that she lies every time she opens her mouth. I also told them that they would all be named in a harassment and libel suit if they didn't back off. The mere mention of getting the law involved make the harassment temporarily stop. Naturally, being a total karen, my former friend would not rest because she couldn't handle not having her way. When word got back to her, that I was contemplating suing her for defamation of character, slander, libel, harassment and a slew of other things that I had proof of, she suddenly turned into a ghost. I can only suspect that she crawled back down to the circle of hell from whence she came
The "dog crap" story, was OP walking an invisible dog? Why would he clean up doggy doo if he didn't have a dog with him? Some people! His come back was amazing!🤣😂
Never do a fake firing of a fake employee. All it teaches these karens is that if they yell and scream loud enough they can get their way and so they'll keep on pulling this with other people. I know you just want to go along to get along and get rid of her as quick as possible but you're doing the world a favor by standing up to them where you can.
Story 1. Should have told the customer she was fired from being a customer and never come back
Does Karen think Air B&B is some sort of corporate property management company with onsite staff and all that? If Karens couldn't Karen, their lives would loose all meaning. LOL
That store had a ton of nerve to throw out op in Story 2 for assault and false imprisonment! i would raise hell with corporate over that !
Last story: I can completely verify that people will not read instructions. Part of my job is to run a training course, and it takes some pre-course work on my part to set up a training account for every individual participant. Because of this, I have a strict deadline as to when you can register for the course, registration closes a day and a half prior to the start time, which gives me time to assign the accounts and for the participants to follow the pre-class instructions to check their logins and contact me if there is an issue. The instructions page clearly state, in large red bolded letters to boot, both at the beginning and end of the instructions, that the registration deadline is firm, exceptions cannot be made, late registrations are not considered, please register for the next class if you miss the date, etc. And yet, about 8 out of 10 times, (I run the course twice a month), someone will message me the day of the course as to why they didnt get the course meeting invitation and can't get in after trying to sign up past the deadline date. It really is very annoying.
Some people, highest percentage are men, are colorblind and RED isn't the best colour (apparently it can 'grey out' and be semi invisible, just FYI).
@Kayenne54 Even considering that, said warnings are in bold text and larger font than the rest of the written instructions.
Story 2. I was thinking the same thing. When he started dragging her into the back office, she should have caused a scene to draw attention.
Story 1: DEFINITELY a mistake to play along, by both parties, I agree and glad you said it. I remember one story where a manager tried that and the customer refused to be fake fired, THAT is the right choice.
Story 2: Assaulted a girl - even if she WAS the right one - a minor, dragging her around against her will instead of USING THEIR WORDS? And EARS? COMPLETELY wrong! Then kicking A CUSTOMER out for their own mistake? You're offended she didn't magically become the worker you mistook her for? So ridiculously wrong. Get police involved.
The correct response to the Karen in the first story would be to fire Karen. I mean, she was being rude to the OP. She deserved it.
Story 1 - Nah, I'd just inhale and shout as loud as I can, "I. DO. NOT. WORK. HERE. YOU. ENTITLED. B****!"
Story 5: The age and autism comments were more disrespectful than Karen perceived OP to be. And yeah, never say that you have some sort of neurodivergence around a Karen since their only personality is just being an a-hole to anyone that has a disability of some sort and then acting like victims when rightfully punished or admonished
I often times have people tell me that I look normal, and I am like, what is normal? a setting on a washing machine? Like seriously, people. Autism doesn't have a look and certainly, people with Autism aren't dumb or stupid, they just express things different.
100% of karens see autism as a disease,
@@Yumi_Jay fpr example i think more logically than emotionally, it helps deal with stress, grief, depression etc but the cons are while i see something being more logical done a certain way it often offends others, eg my grandfather passed away two years ago, he was basically my dad as he raised me, (my parents were druggies and my dad abandoned me entirely), i didnt wanna visit him in the hospital before dying, i feel bad for it but i have identic memory, i wanna remember the good not have remember him being a mess in hospital suffering from dementia, similarly with my dad, hes in hospital dying from his dumbass ways, he messaged me to try and reconnect, i ignored him and continued living, to some thats a bad thing, to me hes not family anymore and to visit or reconnect would be a waste of time and energy i could have spent elsewhere. Yet normal people would at least pay a visit as both are family regardless of what bad could or would happen.
@@MrBounceoutboi Same here. I’m good logically but I have trouble really understanding emotions. I hate it because I really attempt to understand but my brain just kind of says no.
@@Mikustan39 tell me about it, it adds to my inability to socialise and understand wither or not a girl likes me. i can tell when they're being nice and when being nice coz im the customer, but when reading screens i fail, see the words but i dont see the emotion in them, or when someone suddenly acts different around me, coz i see more logically and have been hurt before i go into defence mode immediately thinking oh fuck they hate me, Ive done something to annoy them, and all thats happened is they gotten closer to me and like me more only to have me suddenly ignore them thinking distance will fix it as I've been getting to close and annoyed them, inadvertently damaging the relationship etc
Is it bad that when he said he'd be handing out karate chops my first thought was: more like lamb chops 😂😂😂
About story with the girl and the jeans store. WOW. If that was me, I would have screamed and punched the guy for putting hands on me. Also called the police. As I was listening to the story. My heart went ice cold. I thought the girl was going to be assaulted worse. How terrifying for her. If they do this to a random customer, they could have done much worse.
Maybe the employee who did not show up was told, or something and just quit before coming in. Hope she didn't go in there. God, what could have they done to her?
Always call the police if anyone puts hands on you. Scream, make lots of noise, yell fire or anything to get help from someone nearby. That could save your life. If they don't let go use your nails or even you car keys go for the eyes or if male aim much lower and twist. Stomp on the top of their foot. Any thing to get them off of you. You must fight as dirty as you can. You can deal with the police later. Just save your life first.
14 year olds don't have car keys.
#1 Nobody should ever enact any sort of fake firing to placate any Karen. It just reinforce them in their entitlement, and that's very bad. Just insist that this consumer DO NOT work there. If that don't work, call security to throw the Karen out while clearly stating that she's now banned from the place.
#4 That's one way to deal with Karens.
Time out, time out. TIME OUT! No no no no no no no... hell to the NO! Do not let them win! They'll just keep doing it. Go drill sergeant on the Karen, make her cry and wet her Depends and then she may leave others alone. Sorry for the rant... I only got as far as story one and had to respond for all the sane, civilized people.
Story 1: If it was me, I would go the drama path. I would be asking how my seven siblings under age 12 and disabled parents eat complete with water works. I would then demand her name and where she worked at, and go completely over the top.
About the first story, yes DarkFluff! The manager, by acting the way he did, enabled the crazy b***h and it’s definitely not the right way to deal with that kind of craziness.
The first story: never placate a Karen. It only emboldens them and reinforces their negative behavior as well as their lack of respect for boundaries, zero comprehension that the word no is totally valid response as well as a complete sentence or that there are reprisals as well as consequences for their actions. The manager is definitely in the wrong for playing along to get Karen out of his hair.
If a guy grabbed me and started dragging me somewhere, I'd have started screaming.
I'm deeply disappointed in the first story. I really looked forward to OP accepting being fired and telling Karen whats what and whos who since she 'no longer works at the store'.
That manager and customer make me really mad. I would never allow myself to be fake fired as next time that Karen is going to be even worse.
Story 2 : if ANYONE dragged me to a back room in a store they’d hear me clear to the west coast. I’m glad this story didn’t have a body count.
Thanks for the story, Fluff! Laying at home sick as a dog right now, and I needed something entertaining to watch.
Wishing you well. Feel better soon.
Stay hydrated, get lots of rest and I hope you feel better soon!
That's so sad. Hopefully your dog gets better.
Omg that last story!! I've worked autistic people and if I heard anyone calling someone with autism stupid, they'd need to be digging their own grave.
@Chrisxerri I have Asperger's a form of autism and this happened before I was diagnosed at age 31 I was at Goodwill Industries getting computer and job training my job specialist thought it'd be fun if I worked at a comic book store so she took me there but when the manager saw and heard about me he said we don't hire retards....god I hate myself I hope you will reply to this
I would allow them to fire me, on the condition that Karen is fired too.
For the person that was dragged into the back office against their will it's called kidnapping.
The thing that infuriates me about the fake firing stories is that you never know who else might see the event without knowing the context: junior supervisors, subordinates, customers. This could seriously affect morale and authority later. Worse, a customer could easily assume that if the manager has so little respect for employees or the law, they might be cutting corners elsewhere in the business.
A single fake firing could easily have a huge snowball effect, especially when it happens at the front of the store where it could be seen by dozens of people.
The correct response: I decide who works here, and who shops here. She works here, you don't shop here. Get out before I call police "
“Corporate needs you to find the difference between two pictures.”
(Person wearing a vest and regular clothing)
(Person wearing a blue vest with a name tag and casual business clothing.)
Karen: *THEY’RE THE SAME PICTURE!*
Managers should NEVER pretend to fire someone, that just encourages these horrible customers to think they can get people fired any time they want. Don't do that!
I wanna share a short one.
I was at my local Tesco last week to buy a pair of new shoes. I found a style I like but not sure if there were any in my size. I saw a woman arranging shoes and asked her if she knew there were my size for those shoes. She replied "I'm just a promoter (representative for a different shoe brand who goes to supers and hypers to check and replenish stock for shoes under the brand, in other words she doesn't work for Tesco or the brand of shoe I was holding), sorry."
I left her alone after that. Got another design that actually had my size.
Now that is quite a story. That one takes the cake.
Story one, you just incouraged her to be a Karen over and over again. You rewarded behavoir, BAD BAD Choice.
Story #1: Should've instantly made OP employee of the month/year.
first story the manager should've fired the karen
Story 1, OH HELL NO!!! "LAdy, I want your name and place of employment, I'm going to call your boss and have YOU fired for harassing people at the store and being dumb as a box of rocks." "Now get away from me before I call the police and have you charged with harassment" NEVER let them think they won!
So if they are firing me from a store I don’t work at can I get unemployment? 😂
_unladylike snort_
@@Panthera_pardus_ How's it unlady like?
@jayschoenhaar539 ABOSOLUTELY NOT NOW SHHHHHHH BOY
Story 2 - That is called abduction. No matter if they are an employee or not it is NOT legal for anyone to lay hands on you unless they are law enforcement or you are in immediate danger. Dragging OP to the office like that was abduction and it should have been reported.
Story 6 - OP should have gone "Oh, one moment let me call Airbnb for you." then called Airbnb, explain the situation to them, give them the airbnb address and while on the phone ask Sylvia for her last name and give that. Then explain on how abusive they have just been to you, a neighbor.. Then watch as Sylvia and co get a call informing them their reservation has been cancelled due to breach of terms.
Story 5 "i hope i dont seem rude" as an autistic person myself, i too feel this predicament daily
I've learned that being oblivious to the people around you and staring at them with an emotionless expression when they try to give you a negative confrontation helps out a lot. For some reason, this amused the people in my high school and I was voted "Most Unique" for the yearbook. I thought about telling them that "Unique" does not come in terms of degrees and there can't be a "Most" version of it, but that would have required me caring enough to talk about it.
@MrBounceoutboi I'm like you I have Asperger's a form of autism I wasn't diagnosed till I was 31 because no doctor would listen to my mother...before I was diagnosed I was at Goodwill Industries getting computer and job training my job specialist at Goodwill thought it would be a fun job if I worked at a comic book store she took me over there but when the manager saw me and heard about me he said we don't hire retards...god I hate myself I wish I was never born I hope you will reply to this
Story 5: Yeah, OP needs to be more careful about who they reveal their autism to. Using it as an excuse or any kind of explanation about yourself to a stranger is an incredibly risky move. Some will understand, but those who already have the wrong idea will either pity you or use it as ammo. If it's not a necessary detail, just keep your mouth shut.
Probably best to never share personal info at any point, really. If logic and rationality aren't their strong suit, then empathy and compassion won't be either.
never tell someone you have a camera recording, let them file a false police report, digging their own grave...
#1) It doesn't matter what you wear when you're shopping, entitled people see *any* uniform at all and somehow think they have the privilege of making the person in that uniform not only their personal servant, but also subject to their abuse. Managers encourage customer abuse by fake firing customers instead of escorting the Karens out of the store, trespassing when warranted, and banning them.
#3) This guy has the best sense of humor! I'm surprised he didn't throw in a lawn edging joke while he was at it. Smartassery for the win.
#4) I'm going to remember this line; it's phenomenal. Call the nursing home to pick the senile Karen up. Brilliant.
"I can just cut the grass and then head out". That line had me rolling on the floor, I was dying!
As an Autistic aggressive people, bullies and Karens spike my anxiety to the point where it's impossible to communicate. When I had trouble with a male Karen who spiked my anxiety and anger to the point where I was struggling to resist the urge to hurt him, I followed an old therapist's advice and called the cops and the only people that I could tell that I'm Autistic were the cops.
@Genin99 I'm like you I have Aaperger's a form of autism my mother was sure I had it when I was a kid but no doctor would listen to her so I wasn't diagnosed till I was 31...because I have a form of autism I been called retarded or a retard....god a lot of times I wish I were never born......I hope you will reply to this
Karens. Minds clouded by frustration and eyes clouded by hate. The moment they see someone that is even partly similar to the shop employees, they start their tirade to make life miserable for strangers and the staff so they can get their way with no heed of human decency.
Beautiful poem.
POV: you’re stuck at home Covid positive, and need a good laugh. Then DarkFluff posts a new karen video, *laughing fit ensues* thank you so much for this entertaining content @DarkFluff
Thank you for your service, haha
😂😂😂
*OP in story #4 is BRILLIANT! LOVE his comeback!!*
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Story two, when the guy grabbed her and took her to the back, that was kidnapping.
on top of Assault on a Minor
@@JohnH20111 exactly!
S1: That manager needs to be reported to corporate of his company
S2: He needs to be arrested for assualt
I like that, Karen asking OP if they are incompetent in their job (at a store they don't work at)? Karen, are you INCOMPETENT as a CUSTOMER?
the manager had no right to kick a innocent customer out i would have gone back in and bought my stuff
The manager didn't kick her out. She was done with her shopping anyway. She even nodded to the manager to play along with the Karen.
On the first story... Poetic justice would have been if the non employee asked to get the employee discount before they left, and the manager giving it to them
Oh lord, I think I might actually know the crematoria OP, or at the very least, I can relate with a fellow professional who goes through this same stuff on a daily basis.
The first one was gold.
Someone that stupid will be 8mune to logic or inadvertent encouragement.
At leases the manager and 'fired wokrker' could enjoy the moment of connection in understanding and recognition and have fun with it, and give the world a chuckle with the story!
The stories on these Karens keep getting more amusing.
Story #1: I would have fired Karen, for hassling a manager for such a petty work place thing. "Karen I am sorry but I am going to fire you instead, your inability to work well with others and problem solve on your own has showed that you are not a fit for this company, as such I would like you to reflect on your experience here as one of our older members and ask your self, was it worth it? good bye Karen.
Wholesome IDWHL story, happened to me:
I'm an EMT. I was in uniform at a local fast food place, waiting on lunch for me and my partner. (He was in the ambulance, taking care of stuff. We had already ordered and paid.) A pair of ladies were sitting at a table, and one asked me for utensils for her meal. It took a few tries, but her friend finally managed to clue her about my actual profession.
I went and got the utensils anyway, since I wasn't busy. She apologized for the mix-up and thanked me for my help.
Not exactly a thrilling story, but 100% true. Nice to know not all mistakes end in shame.