@nunyabidness4220 and buried every WCW wrestler for many yrs which made me quit watching that try to stop every other company they can even a smaller one MLW they finished off ECW taking their TV deal when they switched to spike or TNN just sickening
Art Barr was Beetlejuice in Portland.They changed it in WCW to avoid copyright lawsuits.Art had a tag team partner called the Juicer for a short time in Portland tho
Deuce and Domino aka the Throwbacks weren't bad,but it was the type of gimmick that only worked for small crowds.They used the gimmick in IVW and it worked there,it it didn't translate to a bigger audience much like Adam Rose and No Way Jose
Man I can deal with a lot of dumb gimmicks, but for me, Beaver Cleavage was the one that I just couldn't do it. Wrestling monks (another Mike Shaw gimmick Friar Ferguson), wrestling hockey players, knockoff superheroes, but an imitation of a 1950s tv character with uh how do I say this without upsetting YT....having "family relations" with his mom, was a major WTF moment.
Speaking of hunchbacks, Iron Mike Sharpe was somewhat of a hunchback. The Red Rooster and Goldust were probably the worst gimmicks. Special mention to El Gigante's crazy outfit.
You know everyone talks shit about the red rooster. The way it was done was no doubt shit, but I really think had he not gone quite so over the top with the clucking and walk, and just had the look and did decent promos about cock of the walk and getting to the henhouse and whatever else, I think he could have got it over. Not a good gimmick by any means, but there are way worse out there. The right guy and done the right way could have had a decent little run with the character, especially in those days when everyone had a dumb gimmick.
The Candy Man gimmick had been done a couple of times before the WCW version in the Southern territories, I think Ray Candy/Kareem Muhammad was The Candy Man in Mid-South where he wore red white and blue and handed out candy to the crowd and Buzz Sawyer's brother Brett was The Bubblegum Kid in Florida doing the same thing.
WCW always did poorly when they tried to out-Vince Vince. When the Ding-Dongs, Big Josh, and other cartoon characters showed up on WCW, it always pissed me off.
@@williammitchell4417 Sure. Because Jim recognized talent. Unfortunately, being saddled with so many gimmicks tarnished Brad from ever moving up from Lower Mid Card to a solid Mid Card or higher that he deserved.
A. Bad gimmick like Big Josh eventually became a legendary gimmick like Doink the Clown. The “True” Doink and Matt Borne belongs in the HOF just in that alone.
1. El Gigante 2. Boat Captain Mike Rotundo 3.Yoshi Kwan ( The Fake Asian) 4. The Shark 5. Dave " Evad" Sullivan 6. The Colossal Kongs 7. The Booty man 8. The Zodiac 9. The Butcher 8. Screaming norman Smiley 9. LT Loco ( Chavo Guererro) 10 General E rection ( Hugh Moris Bill Demott) 11. The Artist Formerly known as Prince Iauekea 12. V.K. Wallstreet 13. Hole in One Darsow 14. Curly Bill 15. Braun the Leprechaun 16. Oklahoma 17. Lochness 18. The YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETAY 19. The Shock Master 20. Janitor Hacksaw Jim Duggan 21. Canadian Sympathizer Jim Duggan 22. The WestHollywood Blonds ( lenny Lane and Lodi) 23. Kwee Wee 24. buzzkill ( Brad Armstrong) 25. The No Limits Soldiers 26. Coach Buzz Stern
Yoshi Kwan was great, a fantastic wrestler. Great squash matches in 93. Was sad when he lasted a few month. Chris Champion in the new breed was good as well. People say “ahead of their time” way too often but the New Breed would have fitted in perfectly against the hardy.
I'm not sure if the Dynamic Dudes were a knockoff of Herbie Abrams' UWF team Wet 'n Wild (Steve Ray & Sunny Beach), or were Wet 'n Wild a knockoff of the Dudes? I guess it doesn't matter, because both gimmicks blew ass.
Dynamic Dudes started at WCW in 1989. Wet n' Wild was created in 1991. I doubt it was a knock off really. The Surfer/Skater/Beach Dude gimmick simply was extremely popular at the time (think Ray Apollo, Sandman before he became extreme, Sting, way too many)
@@ShadowAngel18606 I didn't know which of those two gimmicks came first, but thanks for telling me. I knew about Sandman's use of the beach bum gimmick. Probably what the name Sandman referred to anyway.
Neiter.The Dynamic Dudes were supposed to be more like skateboarders (even tho neither knew how to ride one)and the others were stereotypical surfer types
The whole "strangers with candy" thing has beena trope for a while. Also, there was an infamous "Candyman" serial killer from 1970s Houston who might have been worse than John Wayne Gacy.
i feel like dutch didn't want to touch the stick of billy jack haynes dynamite. i think norman the lunatic could've worked if they kept him a a serious deranged heel. but they basically made him a comedic act.
No Hercules was the Super Invader.He wore a mask that resembled red colored panty hose.I remember the dirtsheets at the time knock named him super sock man
I have a weird gimmick idea this dude that I have in mind believes that he is a reincarnation of the pharaoh ahkenaten thanks to a revelation brought to him by aten
What is most interesting is how the WWF seemingly copied a few of these ideas later on. Wrestlers shooting fake guns at the crowd? Smoking Gunns Executioner? That role was played by Terry Gordy in 1996 Norman the Lunatic? Basically Eugene Don't know what was so worst about Big Josh, it's your typical lower card gimmick. At least he wasn't a plumber or dentist. The bears were only used once (Superbrawl 1991) and it isn't much different than the Bulldogs and their dog, Jake and the Snake, Koko and the Parrot or any other animal gimmick. At least bears have a relatively deep connection to wrestling, so it wasn't even all that random. As for Candyman: It was a different time and if handing out candy to children instantly makes you a pedophile or "groomer" (stupid word) than...everybody on Halloween is a pedophile or "groomer"? It was a dumb gimmick, but then again, Brad Armstrong was such a bland, boring, vanilla guy, he desperately needed a gimmick and they tried absolutely everything. He might have been good in the ring (which doesn't matter in pro wrestling), but he simply had nothing else to offer
Nah. The Ding Dongs were nevver pushed and simply were jobbers. Oz was enforced onto them by the Turner execs and also vanished quick. Compare that to Mike Awesome becoming "The Fat Chick Thrilla", the Kiss Demon showing up and getting pushed toward the Main Event or Booty Man (or any other Ed Leslie gimmick) or the pathetic Warrior rip-off Renegade. Or other incredibly dumb short lived gimmicks like Lasertron (based on the dumb Laser Tag game) or The Maestro. WCW had a ton of incredibly stupid gimmicks.
Big Josh's dancing bears pissed all over the walkway ramp at SuperBrawl lmao😂😂😂
Oz was created because TNT , TBS , or Turner classic Movies was celebrating the Wizard of Oz into the TCM library.... Something like that.
That is also why they wanted to change Flair to Spartacus. They saw a resemblance to Kirk Douglas.
@handsolo1209 You are correct sir.
No wonder Nash had to leave lmao
The ding 🛎️ dongs. And the 🦈 shark. Were horrendous 👋🤣
Bastion Booger was actually a pretty decent wrestler in Canada. His ring name was Makhan Singh.
The good old days. Stampede 🇨🇦
Vince always buried the independent talent he was one of many sad to say
He also did a hillbilly gimmick in Memphis wrestling as Jed Grundy. He was really likeable, decent-but-not-remarkable brawler skills.
@nunyabidness4220 and buried every WCW wrestler for many yrs which made me quit watching that try to stop every other company they can even a smaller one MLW they finished off ECW taking their TV deal when they switched to spike or TNN just sickening
He had a not so great gimmick in smokey mountain.
Art Barr was the Juicer in Portland before WCW. The same gimmick as Beetlejuice
You can still find the video of piper dressing him up and basically making the gimmick up live on tv lol, he was actually over asf in portland too
@@scotthalvorson1161 TH-cam is where I saw it. I believe I found out about it in Pro Wrestling Illustrated
Art Barr was Beetlejuice in Portland.They changed it in WCW to avoid copyright lawsuits.Art had a tag team partner called the Juicer for a short time in Portland tho
I remember dutch commentating a candy man match...no lie!
Deuce and Domino. Cast of Grease wrestling in the 2000s.
Deuce and Domino aka the Throwbacks weren't bad,but it was the type of gimmick that only worked for small crowds.They used the gimmick in IVW and it worked there,it it didn't translate to a bigger audience much like Adam Rose and No Way Jose
There was also a Candyman in Memphis, Reggie B. Fine.
Man I can deal with a lot of dumb gimmicks, but for me, Beaver Cleavage was the one that I just couldn't do it. Wrestling monks (another Mike Shaw gimmick Friar Ferguson), wrestling hockey players, knockoff superheroes, but an imitation of a 1950s tv character with uh how do I say this without upsetting YT....having "family relations" with his mom, was a major WTF moment.
Lol vince russo was saying it was a great idea that will nvr get finished cus tv pulled the plug on it and it's our loss bro
@@whitemamba0089that article was hilarious 😂
Because 1 live bear just isn’t enough. WCW.
Speaking of hunchbacks, Iron Mike Sharpe was somewhat of a hunchback. The Red Rooster and Goldust were probably the worst gimmicks. Special mention to El Gigante's crazy outfit.
What?! Goldust was awesome
Goldust got over big time
You know everyone talks shit about the red rooster. The way it was done was no doubt shit, but I really think had he not gone quite so over the top with the clucking and walk, and just had the look and did decent promos about cock of the walk and getting to the henhouse and whatever else, I think he could have got it over. Not a good gimmick by any means, but there are way worse out there. The right guy and done the right way could have had a decent little run with the character, especially in those days when everyone had a dumb gimmick.
@@gravitywaves2796 Red Rooster would have been the perfect character for Vince McMahon. He already perfected the rooster power walk.
Goldust was over.
i actually liked big josh. the log roll!
The Candy Man gimmick had been done a couple of times before the WCW version in the Southern territories, I think Ray Candy/Kareem Muhammad was The Candy Man in Mid-South where he wore red white and blue and handed out candy to the crowd and Buzz Sawyer's brother Brett was The Bubblegum Kid in Florida doing the same thing.
WCW always did poorly when they tried to out-Vince Vince. When the Ding-Dongs, Big Josh, and other cartoon characters showed up on WCW, it always pissed me off.
the original yellow dog was barry windham
Thank you
And then it became Pillman and they feuded if I remember correctly lol
In Florida
That Candyman gimmick ruined Brad Armstrong. Heck, I remember him and his dad, 'Bullet Bob' on old WTBS wrestling.
And Corny still hired them in Smokey Mountain!!
@@williammitchell4417 Sure. Because Jim recognized talent. Unfortunately, being saddled with so many gimmicks tarnished Brad from ever moving up from Lower Mid Card to a solid Mid Card or higher that he deserved.
@@cajunasian71 and don't forget his Baby brother the Road Dogg!!! Oh you didn't know?¿
I liked the desperados
Mukan Singh (Mike Shaw) was really over as a heel in Calgary. So sad to see how he was used by WCW and WWF
You forgot the Halloween Havoc Phantom (Rick Rude).
Wasn't Barry Windham the Yellow Dog in Florida years before Pillman in WCW?
The Ding Dongs were from Belleville, Illinois.
Seems like I remember Nash shitting on Dusty for the Oz character in previous shoot interviews...
A. Bad gimmick like Big Josh eventually became a legendary gimmick like Doink the Clown. The “True” Doink and Matt Borne belongs in the HOF just in that alone.
1. El Gigante
2. Boat Captain Mike Rotundo
3.Yoshi Kwan ( The Fake Asian)
4. The Shark
5. Dave " Evad" Sullivan
6. The Colossal Kongs
7. The Booty man
8. The Zodiac
9. The Butcher
8. Screaming norman Smiley
9. LT Loco ( Chavo Guererro)
10 General E rection ( Hugh Moris Bill Demott)
11. The Artist Formerly known as Prince Iauekea
12. V.K. Wallstreet
13. Hole in One Darsow
14. Curly Bill
15. Braun the Leprechaun
16. Oklahoma
17. Lochness
18. The YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETAY
19. The Shock Master
20. Janitor Hacksaw Jim Duggan
21. Canadian Sympathizer Jim Duggan
22. The WestHollywood Blonds ( lenny Lane and Lodi)
23. Kwee Wee
24. buzzkill ( Brad Armstrong)
25. The No Limits Soldiers
26. Coach Buzz Stern
Interesting… no Mummy?
Yoshi Kwan was great, a fantastic wrestler. Great squash matches in 93. Was sad when he lasted a few month. Chris Champion in the new breed was good as well. People say “ahead of their time” way too often but the New Breed would have fitted in perfectly against the hardy.
Don't forget The Dungeon of Doom
Seems like Michael Wallstreet morphed into IRS in WWE.
No limit soldiers were an actual rap crew from new orleans. Made more money than any wrestler during that time
Hopefully Dutch was in Puerto Rico when the ding dongs were in WCW.
I'm not sure if the Dynamic Dudes were a knockoff of Herbie Abrams' UWF team Wet 'n Wild (Steve Ray & Sunny Beach), or were Wet 'n Wild a knockoff of the Dudes? I guess it doesn't matter, because both gimmicks blew ass.
Dynamic Dudes started at WCW in 1989. Wet n' Wild was created in 1991.
I doubt it was a knock off really. The Surfer/Skater/Beach Dude gimmick simply was extremely popular at the time (think Ray Apollo, Sandman before he became extreme, Sting, way too many)
@@ShadowAngel18606 I didn't know which of those two gimmicks came first, but thanks for telling me. I knew about Sandman's use of the beach bum gimmick. Probably what the name Sandman referred to anyway.
Neiter.The Dynamic Dudes were supposed to be more like skateboarders (even tho neither knew how to ride one)and the others were stereotypical surfer types
Yep those master blasters
It was always fun to watch TL Hopper 😂 🪠🚽
I think Mike Shaw was also Tank, under a mask, in The Truth Commission.
That was Michael Halac.
@@Eddie-lm3jf Was that P.N. News' cousin, who was also Mantaur?
@@jpknievel420 Yes, same person.
Man, somewhere along the line I started blaming Vince Russo for some of the crap Jim Hurd did…
You might as well 😂 if anything Russo was the king of bad gimmicks.Who do you think came up with the name for Total Non stop Action ,(TNA)?
Iron Mike Sharp could have been one of the hunchbacks
Greg Evans and richard sartain the ding dongs where also the rocking rebels
wtf..how do you equate giving kids at ringside candy with a pedo. that is the craziest fucking shit i've heard in a long time. holy shit.
The whole "strangers with candy" thing has beena trope for a while. Also, there was an infamous "Candyman" serial killer from 1970s Houston who might have been worse than John Wayne Gacy.
@@mangrove ahh okay. i will look that up. thank you :D
I would watch what i say about billy jack
Whats he gonna do? Break out of prison? 😂😂😂
i feel like dutch didn't want to touch the stick of billy jack haynes dynamite.
i think norman the lunatic could've worked if they kept him a a serious deranged heel. but they basically made him a comedic act.
Billys locked up now 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
The Juicer... worst ever
Wasnt hercules also blackblood??
Not sure about Black Blood, but Herc was Super Invader & managed by Harley Race
I know at one time it was billy jack Haynes
No Hercules was the Super Invader.He wore a mask that resembled red colored panty hose.I remember the dirtsheets at the time knock named him super sock man
I have a weird gimmick idea this dude that I have in mind believes that he is a reincarnation of the pharaoh ahkenaten thanks to a revelation brought to him by aten
The fat chick thriller and the yeti have to be up there for bad WCW gimmicks even though they were much later on than many of the ones on the list.
WCW trying to be like WWF with these goofy gimmicks that would never go anywhere and couldn't take seriously.
Dutch you could have been raped oh for the love of God lmfao that was fn hilarious 16:19
You probably weren't his type lmfao these guys
I think the wrestling business is long dead. Now it is sport entertainment.
They should have put Dutch in a flying monkey gimmick and he could have escorted Oz to the ring. Should have gone all in.
Nah Dutch is the living version of Yosemite Sam
Dutch was hairy enough to be a monkey 😆
Bastion Booger did commentary with Vince a couple times. He was funny
K & H Wrestling Wear. They are still in business.
You can't kill it? Tony Khan said hold my beer.
What bad gimmicks did Tony Khan create?
What is most interesting is how the WWF seemingly copied a few of these ideas later on.
Wrestlers shooting fake guns at the crowd? Smoking Gunns
Executioner? That role was played by Terry Gordy in 1996
Norman the Lunatic? Basically Eugene
Don't know what was so worst about Big Josh, it's your typical lower card gimmick. At least he wasn't a plumber or dentist. The bears were only used once (Superbrawl 1991) and it isn't much different than the Bulldogs and their dog, Jake and the Snake, Koko and the Parrot or any other animal gimmick. At least bears have a relatively deep connection to wrestling, so it wasn't even all that random.
As for Candyman: It was a different time and if handing out candy to children instantly makes you a pedophile or "groomer" (stupid word) than...everybody on Halloween is a pedophile or "groomer"? It was a dumb gimmick, but then again, Brad Armstrong was such a bland, boring, vanilla guy, he desperately needed a gimmick and they tried absolutely everything. He might have been good in the ring (which doesn't matter in pro wrestling), but he simply had nothing else to offer
Norman the lunatic was dope.
Why is handing out candy to kids considered grooming, if candy is grooming, what's giving away shades.
Scott Hall as Diamond Stud was a terrible gimmick
I gotta say Orange Cassidy and Wendy Choo are the worst gimmicks in modern wrestling.
I still don't know what Orange Cassidy gimmick is. A guy who rather be anywhere else? The narcoleptic wrestler is at least something.
Wendy Choo?dumb gimmick.Orange Cassidy is good and is a very good worker
The Ding Dongs were the worst WCW gimmick. Oz is 2nd.
Nah. The Ding Dongs were nevver pushed and simply were jobbers. Oz was enforced onto them by the Turner execs and also vanished quick.
Compare that to Mike Awesome becoming "The Fat Chick Thrilla", the Kiss Demon showing up and getting pushed toward the Main Event or Booty Man (or any other Ed Leslie gimmick) or the pathetic Warrior rip-off Renegade.
Or other incredibly dumb short lived gimmicks like Lasertron (based on the dumb Laser Tag game) or The Maestro.
WCW had a ton of incredibly stupid gimmicks.
Too many to list
I think wrestling wil survive, but it won’t come back stronger. Not for a few generations, after the coming
Inferno.
I’d add the Young bucks to this list lol
What's bad about their gimmick?
Don't forget Art Barr is dead
Ding Dongs
HoF 2024
Dutch may be right, but to me current wrestling is dead. I have tried watching it a few times, and simply cannot watch it.
Didn't Billy Jack Haynes knock out Iron Mike Sharpe 1 time Dutch..