Was a fully electric driver but hated it (didn’t help the car was absolute garbage), so now a PHEV driver, far better 👍🏼 Glad I’ve bought one of these 👍🏼
I'm ordering a VZ2 Hybrid next month. I had the pleasure of test driving one recently and whilst I was originally making enquiries about the V2 (the 204BHP version), I ended up testing the 245BHP version. I think the dealers do this on purpose because like many others, I fell in love with it.
Same here, expecting mine in October 👍🏼👍🏼 offers best of both worlds and with the new clean fuel tech I think ICE could be around longer than many think.
You always have the CUPRA Leon Sportstourer VZ 1.4 e-HYBRID, if you look for an even more practical CUPRA. VAG is putting that powertrain in the low power level (204hp) in almost any car.
Can I please congratulate the EVM for one of the funniest Car Review moments ever... two Yorkshiremen saying "Hola Hola... HOLA HOLA... HOOOOOOOOOLLLLLA HOOOOOOOOLLLLAAAAA" to a Spanish car that was not understanding their accents... it almost beats the two scots stuck in a lift video... both were priceless moments of TV history... and enjoyed the Car Review too!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Great review...I bought one of these because I need to tow but I am also a petrolhead and ev enthusiast! Love this car but will be getting a Alfa Romeo tonale next!
Cupra dropped a bit of a bollock with this in terms of attracting company car drivers : the petrol engine element is 1398cc meaning you can only claim 15p per business mile back, instead of 18p if the engine was 1401cc.
Driven 5000 miles in mine. Only 38mpg. Style over substance. The worst of both worlds. Useless battery range, useless petrol range. If false plastic moulded exhausts impress you, you deserve this.
@@marksneyd1262 Well, it’s dangerous to use anyway as you have to take your eyes off the road (just watch reviewers when they’re driving it) to use it. But, It is very slow to react and has just completely shut down a couple of times. To be honest, I have a load of issues with this cars overall design. I think it just sells on looks. Which is a stupid thing to buy for.
According to the video it’s cheaper than a Model 3, however the build, finish and quality of everything leaves the Model 3 for dead. Roll on the full electric version. (Hopefully at a cheaper price than the PHEB)
Great review. For the Octavia, opinion seemed to be that in PHEV guise the standard 200bhp one worked better than the VRS 245bhp version. I wonder if this would be true for the Cupra?
th-cam.com/video/hu0sHYaJSEY/w-d-xo.htmlm08s EVM has a video on the costs of public chargers, at 30p/kWh you are looking ar 7.7p/mile, so running the EV will be slightly cheaper than running a petrol car. If it were me I'd download a charge app and keep an eye on the reliability /uptime of the local BP charger. You might be able to find some other charge points too, any chance of getting an hours charge free when you're doing the weekly shop?
So as someone with the 1.5Tsi (150) V2, I’d have to say that while I agree CUPRA have ventured a little deep into the less performance car territory, the way the car is set up is still ‘Fast’ the 0-62 mph quote is a bold faced lie like most other VAG group cars, I’ve had 6.4seconds to 60 from a Draggy. I’m moving soon to somewhere I will be able to regularly charge an EV and without doubt I’m going to try my best to get a VZ2 PHEV. Extra power, more torque, less cost to run. It’s a no brainer if you can afford it imo.
I’m looking forward to the cupra born, but don’t know what price is gonna be!..?, I think is gonna be around 40 for the the one with the highest power but again that is model 3 ,polestar 2 Sv money so ,,,,god knows. Thanks for your videos mate
@@ElectricVehicleMan can you recall when you tested the jeep renegade you got 88 mpg ,how many charges and distance travelled to achieve that figure. Do you think the jeep would return a similar mpg for the same distance and one charge as the formenter
Yeah...¡Hey Cupra! Should be the RIGHT Thing...but Hola Hola is the Shittest from Seat..Im a owner of one Formentor. And counting hours to the Indepencence Day of Cupra from Seat.
Well in the future Seat will have to be fully electric too anyway. The EU is forcing brands to do so. In 2035 they want the brands to only sell eletric cars, ice’s will be forbidden.
Afraid I am one of those that is biased. Really wanted to see the Born but it is taking too long to come to market, keep in mind it was initially planed to come on the market a matter of a few months after the ID3, well that car has been on the market for some considerable period of time and still no car yet. Back to the PHEV Formentor. Like all Phevs it is neither a good ice version nor a good EV as compromise has been made in both departments making it neither good in any department.
Fantastic car, but it’s a PHEV! I have always struggled with the concept. Lot of cost and technology for what? Yummy Mummies can drive spoilt kids to school without a conscience. One or the other not an inbetweener! 😎
On the other hand 90% of people do less than 50 miles a day 90% of the time. But if a car only does 150 miles 90% of people seem to reject it because the range isn't high enough. So if you've got a car that can cover your day to day milage on the battery, that's good? I do mostly agree with you, from an engineering purity pov it is a cludge but it does seem to work, and if it wins over people who wouldn't buy an ev because they might need to drive to Dundee and back in one day then that's a win?
You right, but there are lots of people that don’t like radical changes. Those peor need the PHEV to then go to fully electric. They will get the experience that driving electric is quite comfortable and maybe after some talks at the charging pole with BEV drivers they will decide to go fully electric at the next car. Don’t expect that anyone is that radical.
I struggle with the reality of pushing Electric as the future at the same time as having a woefully inefficient rollout of charging stations across Britain. If you want to do the North Coast 500, you struggle to securely find a reliable succession of charging stations to get you round. If you want to get from Yorkshire to and around the Lake District - a more conventional trip, perhaps - you have the same experience. If you want to run electric on the urban cycle, but want to avoid the range anxiety of going anywhere more than 25 miles from home, a PHEV is *the* transitional technology that is going to be useful for the next 5 or 10 years.
@@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu right but how often do you actually do those journeys? For myself I've done 1 journey in the past year that's more than a 150 mile round trip. Before that it's probably another year. And I can't think of a trip I _had_ to do. Yes you may not be able to do the north coast 500, but I can't drive across the Irish sea either. But neither of these things you 'have' to do. It's only notable because you could hypothetically do it in an IC easier than an EV. In the days of Concorde, I could do lunch in New York if I wanted. Now that option is removed I just do things I actually can do. That's not to discount your point about it being a transitional technology, I think most of that is psycological rather than physical though.
@@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu - With a residual value of diddly squat, at some point prices will drop off a cliff. I am big supporter of EV technology, but feel that the Hybrid technology is a rip-off. The only company that has been successful at it is Toyota, who have been quietly getting on with it for the past 20 tears or so. Most of the model range has the hybrid technology at an affordable price.
Already yawning part way in . Not the presenting as that's always excellent but it's another VAG version of the same , but with cheaper plastics and a terrible entertainment system .
@@littlebluepanda394 that isn't even the worst ford name. Escort. What did people think of that when it came out? Kuga, not to be confused with cougar, both of which came out at the same time as a car call puma even though both are entirely different.
@@hawedehre I'll agree it probably does sound better in Spanish, but they launched it in the UK with an English language name so you can't really complain when it's pronounced in the UK with a UK accent.
The 2 of you together make any car review so much fun combined with positive energy and informative details helping buyers a lot.Thank you Gents
it's what a gaming laptop would look like if it was a car
Was a fully electric driver but hated it (didn’t help the car was absolute garbage), so now a PHEV driver, far better 👍🏼 Glad I’ve bought one of these 👍🏼
I'm ordering a VZ2 Hybrid next month. I had the pleasure of test driving one recently and whilst I was originally making enquiries about the V2 (the 204BHP version), I ended up testing the 245BHP version. I think the dealers do this on purpose because like many others, I fell in love with it.
Same here, expecting mine in October 👍🏼👍🏼 offers best of both worlds and with the new clean fuel tech I think ICE could be around longer than many think.
"It's just a trim level"
Yup, it started off as a performance trim level, then switched to a performance sub-brand, then migrated down from there...
I drove one last week a 1.5 TSI as a rental in Spain, I ♥️ it
Top tip.
You don't pronounce the "H".
It's O La
You always have the CUPRA Leon Sportstourer VZ 1.4 e-HYBRID, if you look for an even more practical CUPRA.
VAG is putting that powertrain in the low power level (204hp) in almost any car.
Hell Cupra are even putting the VAG 1.5L petrol engine (150bhp) in everything too
It says Formentor is the side of the rear lights. Really cool actually.
Your right! Nice touch 😎
Well, it makes a very descriptive noise as it accelerates away: 'Mehhh!'
Thanks for the review, EVM. 🙂👍
I realy like the way you 2 buddies review a motor (no crap )
Can I please congratulate the EVM for one of the funniest Car Review moments ever... two Yorkshiremen saying "Hola Hola... HOLA HOLA... HOOOOOOOOOLLLLLA HOOOOOOOOLLLLAAAAA" to a Spanish car that was not understanding their accents... it almost beats the two scots stuck in a lift video... both were priceless moments of TV history... and enjoyed the Car Review too!!! 🤣🤣🤣
The self charging stuff got me good
Looking forward to Cupra's take on the ID4/Enyaq
Yes. The Cupra Born looks rather special :)
@@where_is_mark The Cupra Born is ID3 size.
The Cupra Tavaskan I believe. Can't wait to see it as well to opt for PHEV or EV
Great review...I bought one of these because I need to tow but I am also a petrolhead and ev enthusiast!
Love this car but will be getting a Alfa Romeo tonale next!
Cupra dropped a bit of a bollock with this in terms of attracting company car drivers : the petrol engine element is 1398cc meaning you can only claim 15p per business mile back, instead of 18p if the engine was 1401cc.
I can't wait for the Cupra Born either 👀
"Evertime you come up to a roundabout it tells you to lift off"
Pretty sure if you go to setup you can turn it off
A T Rock convertable passed me a couple of weeks ago it was white and the first thing that came to mind was 1 of those old roll top baths
Real buttons yay! And a full set for the windows
Bet you the el born will have similar buttons to the Id.3
The first car review I've ever seen where I expected them to start banging rocks together to communicate.
And yet we still get given cars to review! Fancy that.
Driven 5000 miles in mine. Only 38mpg. Style over substance. The worst of both worlds. Useless battery range, useless petrol range. If false plastic moulded exhausts impress you, you deserve this.
10k miles now from new and hate it 😢
Any issues with the display system to report?
@@marksneyd1262 Well, it’s dangerous to use anyway as you have to take your eyes off the road (just watch reviewers when they’re driving it) to use it. But, It is very slow to react and has just completely shut down a couple of times. To be honest, I have a load of issues with this cars overall design. I think it just sells on looks. Which is a stupid thing to buy for.
Also 245 has launch control 😊
The 245bhp doesn't have the satellite stop start and cupra buttons.
Also, transmission tunnel lmao. They are FWD. Unless the 310bhp 4WD LOL
According to the video it’s cheaper than a Model 3, however the build, finish and quality of everything leaves the Model 3 for dead. Roll on the full electric version. (Hopefully at a cheaper price than the PHEB)
Yep my tesla build quality has made me hate it with a passion…..
Great review. For the Octavia, opinion seemed to be that in PHEV guise the standard 200bhp one worked better than the VRS 245bhp version. I wonder if this would be true for the Cupra?
Is it worth buying an electric car when I can only use a public charger (bp pulse) which costs £0.30 p/kw, if so which one do you recommend?
th-cam.com/video/hu0sHYaJSEY/w-d-xo.htmlm08s
EVM has a video on the costs of public chargers, at 30p/kWh you are looking ar 7.7p/mile, so running the EV will be slightly cheaper than running a petrol car. If it were me I'd download a charge app and keep an eye on the reliability /uptime of the local BP charger. You might be able to find some other charge points too, any chance of getting an hours charge free when you're doing the weekly shop?
@@CED99 thanks so much for your advice, really appreciate it
Never seen a car with 1 and a half cupholders before .
So the voice assist do not understand yorkie ;-)
MG looks nice.
Hola-hola must be pronounced as oh-la. Its a Spanish car remember?
So as someone with the 1.5Tsi (150) V2, I’d have to say that while I agree CUPRA have ventured a little deep into the less performance car territory, the way the car is set up is still ‘Fast’ the 0-62 mph quote is a bold faced lie like most other VAG group cars, I’ve had 6.4seconds to 60 from a Draggy.
I’m moving soon to somewhere I will be able to regularly charge an EV and without doubt I’m going to try my best to get a VZ2 PHEV. Extra power, more torque, less cost to run. It’s a no brainer if you can afford it imo.
I’m looking forward to the cupra born, but don’t know what price is gonna be!..?, I think is gonna be around 40 for the the one with the highest power but again that is model 3 ,polestar 2 Sv money so ,,,,god knows. Thanks for your videos mate
What ? No *black plastic gloss* 😉
Yay, finally!
For your 139 miles how many times was the battery charged.
Once
@@ElectricVehicleMan can you recall when you tested the jeep renegade you got 88 mpg ,how many charges and distance travelled to achieve that figure. Do you think the jeep would return a similar mpg for the same distance and one charge as the formenter
Holla holla. Oh god…..
Yeah...¡Hey Cupra! Should be the RIGHT Thing...but Hola Hola is the Shittest from Seat..Im a owner of one Formentor. And counting hours to the Indepencence Day of Cupra from Seat.
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Cupra is the new fully electric brand of seat. There will not be a combustion version anymore. And that is good.
No it's not, there are loads of ICE cars under the Cupra brand.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Right, but Cupra is Seats coming fully electric brand!
Cupra is here now and has been a while.
Well in the future Seat will have to be fully electric too anyway. The EU is forcing brands to do so. In 2035 they want the brands to only sell eletric cars, ice’s will be forbidden.
Afraid I am one of those that is biased. Really wanted to see the Born but it is taking too long to come to market, keep in mind it was initially planed to come on the market a matter of a few months after the ID3, well that car has been on the market for some considerable period of time and still no car yet.
Back to the PHEV Formentor. Like all Phevs it is neither a good ice version nor a good EV as compromise has been made in both departments making it neither good in any department.
Some people can't afford to buy new car's
Some can, welcome to the world we live in.
So buy a used EV instead. There are plenty around now
I don't drive anymore .
@@Brian-om2hh I'm talking about my dad
@@Brian-om2hh how much part exchange a ford c max Y reg
Don't watch PHEVs
Fantastic car, but it’s a PHEV! I have always struggled with the concept. Lot of cost and technology for what? Yummy Mummies can drive spoilt kids to school without a conscience. One or the other not an inbetweener! 😎
On the other hand 90% of people do less than 50 miles a day 90% of the time. But if a car only does 150 miles 90% of people seem to reject it because the range isn't high enough.
So if you've got a car that can cover your day to day milage on the battery, that's good?
I do mostly agree with you, from an engineering purity pov it is a cludge but it does seem to work, and if it wins over people who wouldn't buy an ev because they might need to drive to Dundee and back in one day then that's a win?
You right, but there are lots of people that don’t like radical changes. Those peor need the PHEV to then go to fully electric. They will get the experience that driving electric is quite comfortable and maybe after some talks at the charging pole with BEV drivers they will decide to go fully electric at the next car.
Don’t expect that anyone is that radical.
I struggle with the reality of pushing Electric as the future at the same time as having a woefully inefficient rollout of charging stations across Britain. If you want to do the North Coast 500, you struggle to securely find a reliable succession of charging stations to get you round. If you want to get from Yorkshire to and around the Lake District - a more conventional trip, perhaps - you have the same experience. If you want to run electric on the urban cycle, but want to avoid the range anxiety of going anywhere more than 25 miles from home, a PHEV is *the* transitional technology that is going to be useful for the next 5 or 10 years.
@@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu right but how often do you actually do those journeys?
For myself I've done 1 journey in the past year that's more than a 150 mile round trip. Before that it's probably another year. And I can't think of a trip I _had_ to do.
Yes you may not be able to do the north coast 500, but I can't drive across the Irish sea either. But neither of these things you 'have' to do. It's only notable because you could hypothetically do it in an IC easier than an EV.
In the days of Concorde, I could do lunch in New York if I wanted. Now that option is removed I just do things I actually can do.
That's not to discount your point about it being a transitional technology, I think most of that is psycological rather than physical though.
@@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu - With a residual value of diddly squat, at some point prices will drop off a cliff. I am big supporter of EV technology, but feel that the Hybrid technology is a rip-off. The only company that has been successful at it is Toyota, who have been quietly getting on with it for the past 20 tears or so. Most of the model range has the hybrid technology at an affordable price.
Already yawning part way in . Not the presenting as that's always excellent but it's another VAG version of the same , but with cheaper plastics and a terrible entertainment system .
The worlds worst car name.
yep (2nd)
You remember the Ford Ka, right?
@@littlebluepanda394 that isn't even the worst ford name. Escort. What did people think of that when it came out? Kuga, not to be confused with cougar, both of which came out at the same time as a car call puma even though both are entirely different.
You could at least give it a try to pronounce it Spanish. Everything sounds stupid in that UK something accent. It’s not coobra and not for mentor.
@@hawedehre I'll agree it probably does sound better in Spanish, but they launched it in the UK with an English language name so you can't really complain when it's pronounced in the UK with a UK accent.