My first tekken was 2, and i've always had a lot of fun playing it with my brother/sister and my friends wrecking everybody usually. played a lot of tekken 3 and 4, a little bit of 5 and 6 but only with 7 i've started playing online and all of a sudden i'm hearing about safe or unsafe moves, korean back dash, juggles and shit everywhere. after 15 years or more i feel like i'm new at this game..
Herman Toothrot Yeah man same notion, i had my reign in Tekken 3 with Paul not because of fuckin chain combos that had become some convention/requisition/compliance for game nerds since 2014/15 up till now not that i couldn't juggle/remember the movelist or shit but i happened to just execute his destructive move at the perfect time & that was called playing my friend since then i havent really been visiting arcades/consoles. I bet i would hv smoked Koreans during early years but as of now I'm not in the form or familiar with the gameplay but i could still ball bust some pro tier players in those earlier seqs even today!
What's cool about all this is the potential for newcomers.I hope that we veterans and experienced players can be helpful to new players instead of criticizing them for things they don't yet know.
It´s just that the first impression to a lot of people who casualy play fighting games is that Tekken (or 3d fighters in general) is just button mashing because they see they pull of some cool moves by mashing (maybe beat arcade that way), once they play against somebody who actually knows how to play Tekken, they mash harder and still lose and get angry/confused, calling characters op, cheap etc. (a lot of people I personally played against) ... in MKX it´s the other way around, pretty much...it seems harder to them because merely mashing won´t give you "cool" moves...That alone means "deeper" to those people...they don´t know any important mechanics of either of those games, probably doesn´t even use basic things such as dashes or even low guard/block
To be honest I can see that. I think the new character Katarina has a move that combo's into itself like 5 times. I can see how someone might think that. Its a shame he used the worst fighting game ever to compare however. Mortal kombat will die out. The gore was the succes factor back in the day, but the gore is just '' meh '' now.
If you want to get better in Tekken as a new player here are some tips. A. Try as many characters as you can in practice and arcade to get a feel for them, then pick the one that you >enjoy< the most, it's important that you enjoy the character because you're going to be spending alot of time playing with them.... B. "Spend more time in practice then in actual matches" So initially you just want to get all of your execution down (get the hard part out of the way first), like movement, character specific execution stuff, and some combos. C. "Only play matches for >data
great tips tekken is by far the hardest fighter out there to learn .I'm usually OK for the most part like mk,soulcalibur but I'm complete trash in tekken I don't know the fundamentals,or matchups so I'm screwed online I must learn not only my character but everyone in the roster so I'll know what's coming .I'm definitely investing my time on tekken7 this time around time to git gud !
Anibal Mattiwos this is by far the best tips and tricks I've seen in awhile, I have been playing tekken for a very long time but I've been playing sports games competitively more so for the later years and have recently switched to fighter games competitively, I love the game but I am complete trash this has shown me something to catch an edge on what to do to better myself rather than " button mashing " you truly have helped me and I thank you.
@anibalmattiwos what an Underrated message, this tips can be used for all FG, specially the "play for the data, no to win" countless of peaple play this game for "the win" and learn bed habits. In the past I used to do these same mistake. Thank you for this tips again
Aris I have to say. This is the best representation of the skill gap in Tekken that I have evr heard. I know you were talking casually. But if you're reading this, I salute you. There is great wisdom in your words.
Tekken is the most balanced game in fighting games in my opinion. Every character seems viable to me unlike games like smash melee and street fighter. I love how much thought goes into even the simpliest moves and the way that frame data works in this game makes everything just feel so natural. The crush system is amazing too. Most definitely the realest, teeth grinding, and gratifying fighting game out there in 2017. I just wish the game had some kind of way to push new players forward a little bit, like a much more interpersonal training mode, or even a level up your game style guide for every character and the universal game options that every character has.
In any fighting game, it is purely on the player to push themselves to get to any specific level. And this requires both time and effort. I have played fighting games with with great training modes and replay features yet most of everyone still play at a low level or don't understand that when it comes to personal problem solving on how to handle situations, they can't always rely on someone else trying to tell them what to do. And that by analyzing the situation and just tooling with training mode for a few minutes, they can come up with potentially practical solutions. It just requires time and effort.
chocholatefrenchpudd I thought Tag 2 was good on starting out new players on the basics That little combot mode was pretty decent to me I think the REAL issue with most new players is not wanting to put in time and doing homework I came up in about a year after simply watching high level tourney play, studying, and getting my ass kicked and being told my mistakes in the process while learning from it No one wants to keep losing (which i can understand) but you have to lose and learn from the person who beat you If you got a good teacher and the proper resources you can excel as a newcomer
Kaze Korp. You can also play as Warioman. Obviously neither of them are tourney legal, but they're still more like normal characters because they can be damaged.
Yeah Tag 2 was fun for what it was supposed to be, I still feel like it's unneeded mechanics and *way* too big roster makes it seem more like $60 fanservice than a tournament game though
I feel that way sbout sf5 but i still enjoy it. Now that i've been playing tekken 7 for a few days i have to admit, i've been having a lot of fun. Fun seems to be the theme instead of anxiety.
Wolfed 09 been playing since 4 years of age and am now 17 I'm just one of those people who never caught on, I still love the game it was a very vivid and fun part of my early childhood and even if I'm trash I'm still gonna play this game to death
He could not have been more right. T7 is my first tekken game and I finally feel like I'm a decent/solid Tekken player after these few years I've spent with the game.
@@urmama54 not really a thing you 'master' without playing a Mishima for like 10 years but got the fundamentals down after a few months. The problem is it takes a lot more work to get the same output compared to other characters. But really satisfying and rewarding, with an unlimited skill ceiling if you're into that
I have been watching Tekken for a long time and got my ass kicked by Asian dudes several times so i know i'm trash. Learning and suffering my way to being decent.
I'm trying to become really at good at tekken now. I'm hoping when tekken 7 comes out I win more than 50% of matches online. It's really amazing how deep the game is.
60% without knowing buttons? What rank and what characters? Usually most people who aren't legacy players sit at around 30-40%, that's if they practice regularly aswell. Normals are from around 40-55%, High tier legacy players are at 55% and above.
Might actually be the only fighting game I spent countless hours (literally) in practice mode. Never played tekken till a year before ttt2 and boy remember it was so cool. And I was hooked. Now o haven't played it for like 2 years so yeah I'm ready to get my shit pushed in again.
Well I disagree that your world crumbles when you realize your bad. I think when you realize your bad, you can then learn and develop and "your world" becomes better.
I never met a guy who had a chance to beat me at tekken... in real life. In online mode, i am ranked as "Fighter". And that says a lot about the game. I think is the greatest fighting game ever without a doubt, but its so hard to learn that people gave up quickly.
"You have know idea that you're trash..." I think that rings true for most games with an online PvP element. But fighters do tend to take that phrase a little deeper than normal along with certain shooters.
in arcades i used to be pretty good at tekken, was great at 2 and 3, stopped playing after tekken tag. However you could always spot the scrubs cause some casual would come on the machine, pick eddy, and bash the shit out of those buttons and win against someone. I remember when that shit happened to me, i spent the lext 2 week playing nothing but eddy so i could just exploit mashers I hated those players because i felt they would break the machine, i mean some people would just manhandle the sticks to outrageous lengths.
LOL totally forgot about this. I can confirm I'm playing it and loving it. Ofc it is hard and I've been sharked, but it's not so bad - made it to Marauder already. (pssst I'm streaming and making videos for this game)
@Keaton lol damn, blast from the past. I actually fell completely in love with T7 in spite of the learning curve and became a decent low-tier tournament level Akuma player. Check my channel. Played and streamed for years. Feels like another life now. Still love Tekken. Thanks for bumping this :)
That was soo me! First time playing a tekken game was on tekken 7 and after hours and hours of offline mode I went online and MAN.. I SUCKED SOOOO HARD. But that was actually what hooked me. It's an awesome game man, even tho I still suck, I love it for the it's depth and potetial.
LIL DOOP Win% means absolutely nothing and I'm actually glad they decided to only have it visible in player info menu in T7. Having your W/L and perecentage looming over your character and opponent negatively affected the psychology of online play imo...there was a tendency for a players mentality to change going into a match depending on what their opponents Win% was. Theres that, and theres also the fact that a year ago I was in green ranks with 70% wins, routinely losing to yellow ranks that had 40% wins
I agree with Aris about some things, many things actually... but calling Tag 2 "trash" is immature. The options that TTT2 gives players is unlike any other game, making it a truly unique experience and an excellent standalone fighting game. Why are people still making TTT2 combo videos and discovering new things? The game survived this long for a reason. I love TTT2 the same way I love MVC2... Limitless options. Fast, frantic gameplay. I use 20 characters and 10+ teams in TTT2, so it never gets old for me. Too each his own... but a Tekken community leader should not "shit on" a game that the majority of the community respects.
to me TTT2 is the peak of the second generation of Tekken, i.e. T4-TTT2. So it's no wonder it's the hardest Tekken game to be good at because it's a mix of all the gameplay features Tekken's had since T4, plus they have almost 60 characters in the game.. Sadly though some people don't appreciate the depth of gameplay that comes with all these stuff. Some don't get past the frustration of dealing with extra variables you have to consider like timing your ss to avoid Tag Crash around the wall.
But again it's his opinion. He's free to dislike TTT2. Those who like the game should continue to play TTT2 and promote it, at least until T7 comes to your area.
Fighters Generation To be honest, compared to Tekken 5:Dark Resurrection and Tekken 6, Tekken Tag 2 has been outright frustrating especially when lag gets involved. TTT2 is not a bad game, but there are so many broken elements especially when it comes to ranking matches. I've bought TTT2 in July of 2013 and looking back at my replays from that year and comparing them to the matches now, I see the improvement so Aris has a point. I had found at SoCal Regionals 2016 that Tekken 7 actually takes a little bit more time as well because some moves of characters have been changed or downgraded to fit the new mechanics.
what makes this game trash (as a technical and patient player) is that every character has those crazy crush mid launchers and hopkicks. you dont have to read to your oppenent or play patient. just throw some hopkicks out and do 60 percent combos without much effort. and with lag even when u block it you barely get a 10f punisher. so ur oppenent can block like 5 of them and if 1 hits its so worth it.
chiefkamachi1: I've made it a personal mission not to fall for hopkick spammers. That was in 2002 or so... and I have to say I'm still successful in that in TTT2. I'm not the greatest player in the world, but I will beat players who rely heavily on hopkicks. :) Hopkicks were never ever a "major problem" for me in TTT2. Playing 4+ years.
Sv4 dosen´t even have a wavedash or a backdash cancel only a regular dash for back and vorwart, and the focus cancel tekken is deeper because of sidestep and crushing.
navychief929 i thinking umvc3 is the perfect storm of that. you can destroy all ur family and friends in that game because u know a mixups and crossups but youll always ALWAYS find someone 10x higher level than u online at tourneys etc etc. if mvcI wasnt coming out i can guarentee the game would prbly still live on for another 3+years. every character is unique enough to have some sort of meta high level play that someone out there can use
I respect intermediate/high tekken players because they actually learned how to play neutral in 3D and there is a lot more to it on the surface than you are seeing. Combine it the large amount of movesets characters have and you create different situations. Then you gotta dig into FRAME DATA to get your best buttons for punishes, or if the move has tracking. The possibilities expand along with trying to adapt to your opponent. And this applies to every character in Tekken with a different variation/focus on tools that you may like. KOF is somewhat the 2D version of this in terms of movement options and choices.
It's kind of like League of Legends. Decent players are Gold-Platinum. To get there, you need to play at least 2 years. Only if you're very talented (map awareness, decision making etc.) you're going to reach Diamond. And if you want to get to Master or Challenger, you need to put like 3 or 2 years on top.
Guilty Gears tutorial system did pretty well, id like to see a tekken variant. its no miracle cure but introduce new players to at least optimal punishers for each character. juggling is cool and fun as hell but punishing and poking is key
You know Tekken 7 FR is going to be my first Real 3D Fighter I'll learn, like I played tekken on psone before but I was a toddler, I'm really excited to learn this game.
Why does Aris dislike Tag mechanics? I thought they were very fun and well thought out! They took bound and rage, which were sort of just added for more damage, and gave them a strategic influence.
Movement was most of what I focused on during my few weeks of eat sleep and breathing tag 2 so I can get to where I want to go but that's about it. I've been a Melee player for about 4 years and those are two very different fighting games.
Man this game is hard to get into. But I am trying. Lucky for me I have a round 1 in my area, so I have access to the vanilla arcade version of 7. I get bodied so much. But I feel I am improving. Very different from 2d fighters.
TekkenToshin round 1 in San Jose ca. Round 1 is awesome! It's like a Japanese style arcade with everything from fighting games to ufo catchers, karaoke and bowling. The arcade attendants are super helpful too when the fighting games break down or need button replacements. I haven't won a single game of t7 though. So I can't unlock my treasure chest online lol. I just get salty and play street fighter for a bit
This is me right now. Picking some random shitty character that looks cool, going to his moves screen and scrolling through hundreds of moves, and not even being coordinated enough to do the easiest sequences. I just go into games and mash my controller and having the odd move come out.
the first fighting game let alone video game I've ever played was Street Fighter 2 on the Super NES and here I am in 2017 still playing fighting but this is the first time that I've ever really bought in an arcade stick gone to tournaments and really took it to a competitive level and I have to say I like it
Bro Paul by the beastie boys lol I feel you tekken tag 2 was kinda silly but got us to understand the game a little better at least me I started taking the game seriously at tekken 6 though
Take on me.. I knew we could be friends. I have just discovered you but have been playing for years and have still learned from you. I subbed hope to catch a stream sometime or maybe even run into you online it would be an honor to get beat down and you analyze me so I can get better.
I swear, my little brother picked Miguel and reached Marauder with like 30 wins. I picked Jin and I’m stuck at expert with 155 wins. I feel useless... My world crumbled so hard...
Miguel can breeze through lower ranks tho, I have a overlord feng which I main but I'm stuck at expert heihachi because like Jin, heihachi has a super long mastery time. U cant just win with those guys.
Went to mostly playing SF when 4 came out then playing Tekken every so often at locals is real jarring you forget how much execution goes into just movement haha
Jose Valera jr I work at the Dave and busters in milpitas they took the tekken 7 machines before I got hired there so a little over a year ago. they had vanilla back then. otherwise I wouldn't leave lol
Yes reality has hit me that I actually suck. After watching so many videos and learning so many things. I see the sharks. Even though I started playing this game when I was 6. That means nothing now. Man it sucks. But I'm starting my years.
Everything he said about Tekken Tag 2 is right! been saying it for years, it's not a proper Tekken game, it's gimmicky juggle crap that had way too much.
That was the plan before release but i"m really clicking with Shaheen and Jack7. I don't know, it feels weird playing an SF character in a Tekken game, even though he's made to fit this game. I'd prefer to play a tekken character in a tekken game, if that makes sense. Loving T7 though.
DigitlSamurai well moving and adapting from a 3d fighting game wouldnt be as hard as adpating feom 2d to 3d. you should be able to get a hand with movement easier then 2d players.
Tekken is like Soul Calibur. Scrubs think they got it figured out, but they don't. I was good at SC2, therefore I understand Tekken where it crosses over.
am i the only person who thinks 3d fighting games are easier than 2d? i mean im shit at both of them, but 3d definitely makes way more sense to me and im better at them just because of that
Saying a mechanic has nothing to do with a particular fighting game is utterly moronic. Parry and supers had nothing to do with SF until they did, just defence nothing to do with fatal fury, until it did etc etc.
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I could listen to him talk about Tekken all day.
I died when he said add 6 month to a year for a normal human lmao.
My first tekken was 2, and i've always had a lot of fun playing it with my brother/sister and my friends wrecking everybody usually. played a lot of tekken 3 and 4, a little bit of 5 and 6 but only with 7 i've started playing online and all of a sudden i'm hearing about safe or unsafe moves, korean back dash, juggles and shit everywhere. after 15 years or more i feel like i'm new at this game..
Herman Toothrot Yeah man same notion, i had my reign in Tekken 3 with Paul not because of fuckin chain combos that had become some convention/requisition/compliance for game nerds since 2014/15 up till now not that i couldn't juggle/remember the movelist or shit but i happened to just execute his destructive move at the perfect time & that was called playing my friend since then i havent really been visiting arcades/consoles. I bet i would hv smoked Koreans during early years but as of now I'm not in the form or familiar with the gameplay but i could still ball bust some pro tier players in those earlier seqs even today!
exactly!!! :D
That's pretty much the story of every person who starts to play Tekken seriously.
Me too :/
Herman Toothrot this comment touches my heart. Same here bro 😂😂😂
What's cool about all this is the potential for newcomers.I hope that we veterans and experienced players can be helpful to new players instead of criticizing them for things they don't yet know.
Kit Garrett hell no fuck the new players XD jk
SORAandJINKAZAMA lmao
Kit Garrett im going to bully the fuck out of them. no mercy
Abram Little gfy
Abram Little That's such a douchbag move
I just had an argument with a guy who thinks that MKX is deeper than Tekken.
He also said that Tekken is all about button mashing.
I want to die.
ThePumao X They didn't see top level players 😂😂
It´s just that the first impression to a lot of people who casualy play fighting games is that Tekken (or 3d fighters in general) is just button mashing because they see they pull of some cool moves by mashing (maybe beat arcade that way), once they play against somebody who actually knows how to play Tekken, they mash harder and still lose and get angry/confused, calling characters op, cheap etc. (a lot of people I personally played against) ... in MKX it´s the other way around, pretty much...it seems harder to them because merely mashing won´t give you "cool" moves...That alone means "deeper" to those people...they don´t know any important mechanics of either of those games, probably doesn´t even use basic things such as dashes or even low guard/block
Jagger Django exactly
To be honest I can see that. I think the new character Katarina has a move that combo's into itself like 5 times. I can see how someone might think that.
Its a shame he used the worst fighting game ever to compare however. Mortal kombat will die out. The gore was the succes factor back in the day, but the gore is just '' meh '' now.
mk is way harder tough then tekken and tekken is also really kids friendly then i mean when it comes to how brutal mortal kombat is gore wise
If you want to get better in Tekken as a new player here are some tips.
A. Try as many characters as you can in practice and arcade to get a feel for them, then pick the one that you >enjoy< the most, it's important that you enjoy the character because you're going to be spending alot of time playing with them....
B. "Spend more time in practice then in actual matches" So initially you just want to get all of your execution down (get the hard part out of the way first), like movement, character specific execution stuff, and some combos.
C. "Only play matches for >data
great tips tekken is by far the hardest fighter out there to learn .I'm usually OK for the most part like mk,soulcalibur but I'm complete trash in tekken I don't know the fundamentals,or matchups so I'm screwed online I must learn not only my character but everyone in the roster so I'll know what's coming .I'm definitely investing my time on tekken7 this time around time to git gud !
Anibal Mattiwos this is by far the best tips and tricks I've seen in awhile, I have been playing tekken for a very long time but I've been playing sports games competitively more so for the later years and have recently switched to fighter games competitively, I love the game but I am complete trash this has shown me something to catch an edge on what to do to better myself rather than " button mashing " you truly have helped me and I thank you.
But who wants to spend all that time in fucking practice mode, shits boring as hell
Have you won anything?
@anibalmattiwos what an Underrated message, this tips can be used for all FG, specially the "play for the data, no to win" countless of peaple play this game for "the win" and learn bed habits. In the past I used to do these same mistake. Thank you for this tips again
Aris I have to say. This is the best representation of the skill gap in Tekken that I have evr heard. I know you were talking casually. But if you're reading this, I salute you. There is great wisdom in your words.
find a seat and get out a note pad because Tekken school is in.
gluesniffer2 I could say the same thing.
I'm the teachers pet ! teach me sensei
Tekken is the most balanced game in fighting games in my opinion. Every character seems viable to me unlike games like smash melee and street fighter. I love how much thought goes into even the simpliest moves and the way that frame data works in this game makes everything just feel so natural. The crush system is amazing too. Most definitely the realest, teeth grinding, and gratifying fighting game out there in 2017.
I just wish the game had some kind of way to push new players forward a little bit, like a much more interpersonal training mode, or even a level up your game style guide for every character and the universal game options that every character has.
In any fighting game, it is purely on the player to push themselves to get to any specific level. And this requires both time and effort. I have played fighting games with with great training modes and replay features yet most of everyone still play at a low level or don't understand that when it comes to personal problem solving on how to handle situations, they can't always rely on someone else trying to tell them what to do. And that by analyzing the situation and just tooling with training mode for a few minutes, they can come up with potentially practical solutions. It just requires time and effort.
chocholatefrenchpudd
I thought Tag 2 was good on starting out new players on the basics
That little combot mode was pretty decent to me
I think the REAL issue with most new players is not wanting to put in time and doing homework
I came up in about a year after simply watching high level tourney play, studying, and getting my ass kicked and being told my mistakes in the process while learning from it
No one wants to keep losing (which i can understand) but you have to lose and learn from the person who beat you
If you got a good teacher and the proper resources you can excel as a newcomer
I'd say Project M is one of the most well-balanced fighting games, even if it's just a mod.
Mike Voss uh... giga bowser Lol
Kaze Korp. You can also play as Warioman. Obviously neither of them are tourney legal, but they're still more like normal characters because they can be damaged.
TTT2 is not trash. It is just gimmicky with the tag mechanics. Still a very fun game with a large roster.
I agree, its not a bad game! It's just a gimick fest with the clone characters and tag mechanics. Other than that, it is a good and fun game.
Large roster is, in a competitive standpoint, a negative
I always liked the tag mechanics.
Yeah Tag 2 was fun for what it was supposed to be, I still feel like it's unneeded mechanics and *way* too big roster makes it seem more like $60 fanservice than a tournament game though
Yeah definitely not trash, that was an elitist/moronic statement by him
Tekken is stressful, oh boy. I love it.
I feel that way sbout sf5 but i still enjoy it. Now that i've been playing tekken 7 for a few days i have to admit, i've been having a lot of fun. Fun seems to be the theme instead of anxiety.
I'm setting here trying to listen. But I keep jaming out to the song in the background
Take on me (take on me),
Take me on (take on me)
I'll be gone
In a day or two
I agree
to be a "good player" in tekken dude that requieres YEARS of practice trust me
Wolfed 09 I play it since i'm 6 years old xD now I'm 16
Infam0us Ph0enix - TEKKEN 7 I have played Tekken since i was 14, now im 37 😁
SCORPIONFURY ^^
why should i trust you?
Wolfed 09 been playing since 4 years of age and am now 17 I'm just one of those people who never caught on, I still love the game it was a very vivid and fun part of my early childhood and even if I'm trash I'm still gonna play this game to death
Two years turned out to be completely accurate. Thanks Aris
He could not have been more right. T7 is my first tekken game and I finally feel like I'm a decent/solid Tekken player after these few years I've spent with the game.
whats ur guys mains?
@@urmama54 learned the game with Shaheen and he's still my main, but I play Paul, Dragunov and Devil Jin as well
@@joeytcb in regards to devil jin how easy has it been to master kbd, wavu, electrics, combos? or does ur fighting style rely on other tools?
@@urmama54 not really a thing you 'master' without playing a Mishima for like 10 years but got the fundamentals down after a few months. The problem is it takes a lot more work to get the same output compared to other characters. But really satisfying and rewarding, with an unlimited skill ceiling if you're into that
I have been watching Tekken for a long time and got my ass kicked by Asian dudes several times so i know i'm trash. Learning and suffering my way to being decent.
Every failure is a chance to learn and improve.
There's no way, but up.
I'm trying to become really at good at tekken now. I'm hoping when tekken 7 comes out I win more than 50% of matches online. It's really amazing how deep the game is.
bennymountain1 Interesting. Definitely looking forward to ranking up then
60% without knowing buttons? What rank and what characters?
Usually most people who aren't legacy players sit at around 30-40%, that's if they practice regularly aswell.
Normals are from around 40-55%, High tier legacy players are at 55% and above.
Fear OfSilence I am at 58 %, 1200 wins about 800 L's been playing since Tekken 2, could be a lot better but don't play as much as I used to.
It's okay, it's probably ghost battle.
fuzzymini12 No my 1200 come from online battles with some of the best, if that comment was for me.
Might actually be the only fighting game I spent countless hours (literally) in practice mode. Never played tekken till a year before ttt2 and boy remember it was so cool. And I was hooked.
Now o haven't played it for like 2 years so yeah I'm ready to get my shit pushed in again.
How many mairjuanas did this guy inject
Ben Jackson Lol.
Yes.
Well I disagree that your world crumbles when you realize your bad. I think when you realize your bad, you can then learn and develop and "your world" becomes better.
I never met a guy who had a chance to beat me at tekken... in real life. In online mode, i am ranked as "Fighter". And that says a lot about the game. I think is the greatest fighting game ever without a doubt, but its so hard to learn that people gave up quickly.
guerrerosioux I totally agree.
guerrerosioux in Italy there was no fucking one at day one to buy this game. That explains a lot
Elia Pasquinelli All that says to me is that Italians are bad at Tekken.
Donovan Chilton that's funny cause t7 has an Italian character lmao
Aris is describing the Dunning-Kruger effect.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Lord Aris has spoken kids.
It brings a smile to my face whenever Aris shits on DOA. Him and Rip commentating DOA that one time at a wnf was some of the funniest shit
Trips oh please link to that shit asap lol
Can't remember which wnf fight it was tbh. Search wnf dead or alive and go through all the uploads I guess
Gota love this guy, passion for the game is beautiful
Sometimes i forget just how long I've been watching Arnold play his stupid video games. Gta gang clan races was a top tier period of my life.
I came back to this video after 3 years and I'm still learning. Won my first online tournament against a 3 year old so, that's cool.
"100 years and they never get better... that could be you". Lmao the encouragement.
"You have know idea that you're trash..."
I think that rings true for most games with an online PvP element. But fighters do tend to take that phrase a little deeper than normal along with certain shooters.
watching this video for Tekken 8 its 2 years away but im so hyped for 7 and 8
I'm suppossed so be playing Tekken right now, but this player keeps kicking my ass
in arcades i used to be pretty good at tekken, was great at 2 and 3, stopped playing after tekken tag. However you could always spot the scrubs cause some casual would come on the machine, pick eddy, and bash the shit out of those buttons and win against someone. I remember when that shit happened to me, i spent the lext 2 week playing nothing but eddy so i could just exploit mashers
I hated those players because i felt they would break the machine, i mean some people would just manhandle the sticks to outrageous lengths.
The manhandling, down to rock the whole cabinetfor some, i remember. Mashers don t need eddy , mashers will mash anything like in my memories:Iori.
Bookmarking this so I can come back in June after I've been eaten and verify the details.
Charles Francis Awaiting your return.
LOL totally forgot about this. I can confirm I'm playing it and loving it. Ofc it is hard and I've been sharked, but it's not so bad - made it to Marauder already. (pssst I'm streaming and making videos for this game)
Charles Francis lol
@Keaton lol damn, blast from the past. I actually fell completely in love with T7 in spite of the learning curve and became a decent low-tier tournament level Akuma player. Check my channel. Played and streamed for years. Feels like another life now. Still love Tekken. Thanks for bumping this :)
Tekken is the hardest fighting game period its so many learning curves to it
The cycle will repeat again this week
Kinda crazy watching this video again years later with tekken experience. He could not have been more right.
Dude... I didn't know Hagrid was a badass steamer & played fighting games!... Great music too!
That was soo me! First time playing a tekken game was on tekken 7 and after hours and hours of offline mode I went online and MAN.. I SUCKED SOOOO HARD. But that was actually what hooked me. It's an awesome game man, even tho I still suck, I love it for the it's depth and potetial.
I've watched a few of your videos puddle. And I must say, You are a real man. Big nose, beard, Real man.
Much Luv brah.
learning frame data currently and practicing my KBD's to get better. I have 73.8% win rate with my Alisa (Main) in Tekken 6, cant wait to buy T7.
LIL DOOP Win% means absolutely nothing and I'm actually glad they decided to only have it visible in player info menu in T7. Having your W/L and perecentage looming over your character and opponent negatively affected the psychology of online play imo...there was a tendency for a players mentality to change going into a match depending on what their opponents Win% was. Theres that, and theres also the fact that a year ago I was in green ranks with 70% wins, routinely losing to yellow ranks that had 40% wins
I agree with Aris about some things, many things actually... but calling Tag 2 "trash" is immature. The options that TTT2 gives players is unlike any other game, making it a truly unique experience and an excellent standalone fighting game. Why are people still making TTT2 combo videos and discovering new things? The game survived this long for a reason. I love TTT2 the same way I love MVC2... Limitless options. Fast, frantic gameplay. I use 20 characters and 10+ teams in TTT2, so it never gets old for me. Too each his own... but a Tekken community leader should not "shit on" a game that the majority of the community respects.
to me TTT2 is the peak of the second generation of Tekken, i.e. T4-TTT2. So it's no wonder it's the hardest Tekken game to be good at because it's a mix of all the gameplay features Tekken's had since T4, plus they have almost 60 characters in the game..
Sadly though some people don't appreciate the depth of gameplay that comes with all these stuff. Some don't get past the frustration of dealing with extra variables you have to consider like timing your ss to avoid Tag Crash around the wall.
But again it's his opinion. He's free to dislike TTT2. Those who like the game should continue to play TTT2 and promote it, at least until T7 comes to your area.
Fighters Generation To be honest, compared to Tekken 5:Dark Resurrection and Tekken 6, Tekken Tag 2 has been outright frustrating especially when lag gets involved. TTT2 is not a bad game, but there are so many broken elements especially when it comes to ranking matches. I've bought TTT2 in July of 2013 and looking back at my replays from that year and comparing them to the matches now, I see the improvement so Aris has a point. I had found at SoCal Regionals 2016 that Tekken 7 actually takes a little bit more time as well because some moves of characters have been changed or downgraded to fit the new mechanics.
what makes this game trash (as a technical and patient player) is that every character has those crazy crush mid launchers and hopkicks. you dont have to read to your oppenent or play patient. just throw some hopkicks out and do 60 percent combos without much effort. and with lag even when u block it you barely get a 10f punisher. so ur oppenent can block like 5 of them and if 1 hits its so worth it.
chiefkamachi1: I've made it a personal mission not to fall for hopkick spammers. That was in 2002 or so... and I have to say I'm still successful in that in TTT2. I'm not the greatest player in the world, but I will beat players who rely heavily on hopkicks. :) Hopkicks were never ever a "major problem" for me in TTT2. Playing 4+ years.
Street Fighter 4 is the same way. Its so deep that you think you're good until a real player verses you and then oh boy, get your butt ready.
navychief929 It's not even close. If you already know how to play fighting games, learning SF4 is a cake walk compared to learning Tekken
Sv4 dosen´t even have a wavedash or a backdash cancel only a regular dash for back and vorwart, and the focus cancel tekken is deeper because of sidestep and crushing.
navychief929 i thinking umvc3 is the perfect storm of that. you can destroy all ur family and friends in that game because u know a mixups and crossups but youll always ALWAYS find someone 10x higher level than u online at tourneys etc etc. if mvcI wasnt coming out i can guarentee the game would prbly still live on for another 3+years. every character is unique enough to have some sort of meta high level play that someone out there can use
navychief929 bruh sf4 pssssh plz
I respect intermediate/high tekken players because they actually learned how to play neutral in 3D and there is a lot more to it on the surface than you are seeing. Combine it the large amount of movesets characters have and you create different situations. Then you gotta dig into FRAME DATA to get your best buttons for punishes, or if the move has tracking. The possibilities expand along with trying to adapt to your opponent. And this applies to every character in Tekken with a different variation/focus on tools that you may like. KOF is somewhat the 2D version of this in terms of movement options and choices.
3 years later and I am still wondering when will Mudman1000 run out of money. He's still at it.
It's kind of like League of Legends. Decent players are Gold-Platinum. To get there, you need to play at least 2 years. Only if you're very talented (map awareness, decision making etc.) you're going to reach Diamond. And if you want to get to Master or Challenger, you need to put like 3 or 2 years on top.
Guilty Gears tutorial system did pretty well, id like to see a tekken variant. its no miracle cure but introduce new players to at least optimal punishers for each character. juggling is cool and fun as hell but punishing and poking is key
love your vids on tekken your ideas and knowlegde helps me rethink about stuff in the game or my own play, w/o discorraging me which is great
You know Tekken 7 FR is going to be my first Real 3D Fighter I'll learn, like I played tekken on psone before but I was a toddler, I'm really excited to learn this game.
I've been playing 7 years and have been averaging avenger rank for the longest time. Feels bad man :(
I've been playing Tekken since 4 and I am still trash
Been playing since 1 and I guarantee you that I'm worse than you are.
Tag2 was my first and favorite. Played T6/TTT2/T7 and Tag2 has the best customization options (more generally).
Why does Aris dislike Tag mechanics? I thought they were very fun and well thought out! They took bound and rage, which were sort of just added for more damage, and gave them a strategic influence.
Aris Speaks The Truth!
that metaphor is depressingly accurate. but I'm trying to get better. I can't really juggle, but I'm trying to get better
Movement was most of what I focused on during my few weeks of eat sleep and breathing tag 2 so I can get to where I want to go but that's about it. I've been a Melee player for about 4 years and those are two very different fighting games.
3:51
I've been playing Tekken for 11 years, still awful though.
Practice and time, you'll get good eventually, play it casually and enjoy it, you'll get good but after some tiimmmmeeee.
last time I seriously played tekken was 20 years ago and oh boy these words are so true
God tier music
Man this game is hard to get into. But I am trying. Lucky for me I have a round 1 in my area, so I have access to the vanilla arcade version of 7. I get bodied so much. But I feel I am improving. Very different from 2d fighters.
TekkenToshin round 1 in San Jose ca. Round 1 is awesome! It's like a Japanese style arcade with everything from fighting games to ufo catchers, karaoke and bowling. The arcade attendants are super helpful too when the fighting games break down or need button replacements. I haven't won a single game of t7 though. So I can't unlock my treasure chest online lol. I just get salty and play street fighter for a bit
I put in T6 last night and watched some of my recorded games... I didn't realize how bad I used to suck.
This is me right now. Picking some random shitty character that looks cool, going to his moves screen and scrolling through hundreds of moves, and not even being coordinated enough to do the easiest sequences. I just go into games and mash my controller and having the odd move come out.
the first fighting game let alone video game I've ever played was Street Fighter 2 on the Super NES and here I am in 2017 still playing fighting but this is the first time that I've ever really bought in an arcade stick gone to tournaments and really took it to a competitive level and I have to say I like it
What about if you've been playing tekken 7 for 2 years now and still at 1st dan?
Give it a rest man lmao
Bro Paul by the beastie boys lol I feel you tekken tag 2 was kinda silly but got us to understand the game a little better at least me I started taking the game seriously at tekken 6 though
and when i come out that kiddy pool i come out a tekken god
Take on me.. I knew we could be friends. I have just discovered you but have been playing for years and have still learned from you. I subbed hope to catch a stream sometime or maybe even run into you online it would be an honor to get beat down and you analyze me so I can get better.
avoidingthepuddle talking about tekken as lyrics over take on me
if you are good at tekken you are good at soul calibur right?
I swear, my little brother picked Miguel and reached Marauder with like 30 wins.
I picked Jin and I’m stuck at expert with 155 wins.
I feel useless... My world crumbled so hard...
Miguel can breeze through lower ranks tho, I have a overlord feng which I main but I'm stuck at expert heihachi because like Jin, heihachi has a super long mastery time. U cant just win with those guys.
Went to mostly playing SF when 4 came out then playing Tekken every so often at locals is real jarring you forget how much execution goes into just movement haha
how can he have licensed music without getting the video muted?
I'm pretty sure I've always known in trash; it's why I never got in to Tekken (or any fighting game) at all until now, and it's only casually now
You had a thumb up, until the doa reference.
did you like ttt1 and do you think the tag system could work?
There is Tekken 7 at David Busters in Milpitas CA... And at Round One in Concord CA..
Northern California...
Jose Valera jr I work at the Dave and busters in milpitas they took the tekken 7 machines before I got hired there so a little over a year ago. they had vanilla back then. otherwise I wouldn't leave lol
damn aris just mentioned sajam's name then went into a sick segue
Yes reality has hit me that I actually suck. After watching so many videos and learning so many things. I see the sharks. Even though I started playing this game when I was 6. That means nothing now. Man it sucks. But I'm starting my years.
TTT2 is one of the best Tekken and one of the best fighting games
Gonna have to relink this video for those complaining about how hard T8 is.
Also rip gang clan.
what's the name of the song in the beginning
Aris analogies are god tier.
Everything he said about Tekken Tag 2 is right! been saying it for years, it's not a proper Tekken game, it's gimmicky juggle crap that had way too much.
imo tekken is the easiest fighting game to pick up, the hardest to master
Good stuff, but where are the song names
Never knew Hagrid jammed Tekken
jay kj Lol
Tag Crash is dead. Long live Everlasting Trash.
no chat this time time ?
can't wait tell the game comes out f***en hyped ugh
rare footage of Aris not being High..
I don't like it..
As a pure sf player.... im eagerly awaiting T7 and forever abandoning the turd that is sfv
Picking up Akuma?
That was the plan before release but i"m really clicking with Shaheen and Jack7. I don't know, it feels weird playing an SF character in a Tekken game, even though he's made to fit this game. I'd prefer to play a tekken character in a tekken game, if that makes sense.
Loving T7 though.
I said the same now, im back to SFV man is not a perfect game but easy better than that piece of shit tekken
@@mextyle_327 Yeah that's okay, it was too difficult for you. No shame in picking something simpler if your brain can't handle it.
Anyone knows the name of the song?
Does it make a difference that I'm going to Tekken from Virtua Fighter?
DigitlSamurai well moving and adapting from a 3d fighting game wouldnt be as hard as adpating feom 2d to 3d. you should be able to get a hand with movement easier then 2d players.
Your music is the real thing
Aris the greatest.
1:20 iheard this song before
Can any one tell me the name
Tekken is like Soul Calibur. Scrubs think they got it figured out, but they don't.
I was good at SC2, therefore I understand Tekken where it crosses over.
am i the only person who thinks 3d fighting games are easier than 2d? i mean im shit at both of them, but 3d definitely makes way more sense to me and im better at them just because of that
This explained my life until the age of 13
Saying a mechanic has nothing to do with a particular fighting game is utterly moronic. Parry and supers had nothing to do with SF until they did, just defence nothing to do with fatal fury, until it did etc etc.
after 1 year i still suck, better luck next year