Thanks for your time and effort in bringing this to everyone, much appreciated !! I agree with you regarding reinstating the railway, but something is better than nothing as they say 👍
Whilst I still think reinstatement of the railway would have made more sense, I have have to confess I thoroughly enjoyed the cycle from Midleton to Mogeely . Finished to a very high standard with quality materials , I think most people who use it will find it was well worth the wait. Phase one (Midleton to Mogeely) is to be officially opened to the public on the first weekend of March 2024. Buy me a coffee ? buy.stripe.com/7sIaG653zd70cyA7ss
This railway should never have been closed down. In perspective it could be extended via Dungarvan all the way to Waterford, as Cork and Waterford are the only major cities in Ireland not connected by a railway.
I’m planning out a review of the old railway lines that could be reopened. I’m thinking they should move the greenway to allow for the railway to come back to Youghal. Could that be possible?
Irish rail have said that they reserve the right of way and the right to restore the railway in the future if the need arises. The chances of that happening are slim to none . Realistically, there isn't a population density in Youghal to justify the investment of a new railway line . It would make more sense to build a light rail network from Ballincollig into cork and out to Douglas- like the dublin luas . That would be a far better spend of whatever infrastructure money is coming corks way in terms of rail. Just because something could be reopened doesn't mean it should
@@dronehawk that is a fair statement, although I’ve heard about traffic becoming an issue in Youghal. If that is true then what would be the solution other than the greenway?
No the provision is there , how it will be done is interesting. East Cork is a major commuter corridor with Youghal , Killeagh and Mogelly which includes Castlemartyr.
I’d hardly describe that as a major corridor - Youghal a few thousand people and the rest tiny hamlets not worth mentioning. Far more people will use this greenway than a railway.
@@spacetweekas someone who works in east cork all the time I can guarantee you that Mogeely & Killeagh are growing and growing year on year with new estates popping up like mushrooms. Not exactly that tiny anymore.
Many thanks for the up-date. This is all very impressive even over the top. A facility for a tiny minority of enthusiasts on bikes who will not be liked by walkers looking for a quiet country walk. Having said that many walkers do not want a municipalised tarmac path in a straight line but would prefer a circuit . The skewed farm track over bridge is an extravagance .My guess is that an E U grant paid for part of this. Is the gross width of the railway land sufficient for a railway track with a bridleway alongside?
I doubt the lycra clad brigade will want to use it much. Too many young children and pet dogs . Not a good idea to have cyclists passing close range at 30 kph .
Its not really for road racing cyclists, And its not really going to have a lot of commuter cyclists because its between midleton and mogeely, , I assume there'll be plenty of dog walkers and joggers , and kids and families on bikes
Greenways are mostly for cyclists and walkers should give way. The cattle bridge is essential in order to prevent cattle escaping onto the greenway and being an impediment to greenway users. I don’t see how EU grants are relevant and it’s highly unlikely one was involved here - this is commonly assumed but usually not the case. Bridleways are a British thing and not found in Ireland. The railway should not be reinstated as there is no business case or population for it.
Point taken about the cattle bridge and bridleways . Nevertheless it looks like a very expensive alternative to having field gates unless the cyclists must protected from the hazards of cow pats on the macadam. I suppose that cycling in a straight line on the level has its attractions and at least it is safe..@@spacetweek
Restore the railway, fuck these stupid greenways removing a serious needed piece of transport that we should have more of. Not pointless paths for walkers & cyclists.
Couldn’t a few custom made carriages with rubber wheels be pulled along by some sort of vehicle, on that new road, in place of a train. Back and forth at the appropriate times throughout the day ?
I hear that Iarmrod Eireann had been considering substituting something like the vehicle you mention for the LimJnctn-Waterford line for regular trains because of the low usage of the route. It might make sense here because there simply is not the population on the route to justify a regular train. People ought to stop reading. Enid Blyton books sentimentalising and. romanticising rural rail services featuring deferential rosy-cheeked Stationmasters growing prize-winning flower displays !@@dronehawk
I am sure that it is always better to reopen the railway . These cycle ways are mostly used by just a few people , much less than the promotion people promised...
That's true , however to be fair , I don't think the size of the population of youghal would make the railway a viable investment in this case. A light suburban railway in the City between Ballincollig and Douglas, or even carrigaline would be a better use of any infrastructure funds.
Looks very nice.It's just a pity it's not a railway anymore.
Thanks for your time and effort in bringing this to everyone, much appreciated !! I agree with you regarding reinstating the railway, but something is better than nothing as they say 👍
This looks great, fantastic for families, the elderly and disabled to use. It will bring great business to the area
Whilst I still think reinstatement of the railway would have made more sense, I have have to confess I thoroughly enjoyed the cycle from Midleton to Mogeely . Finished to a very high standard with quality materials , I think most people who use it will find it was well worth the wait.
Phase one (Midleton to Mogeely) is to be officially opened to the public on the first weekend of March 2024.
Buy me a coffee ? buy.stripe.com/7sIaG653zd70cyA7ss
Happy to get you a coffee and a couple of pints for all the amazing work you do. Enjoy! 🍻
This railway should never have been closed down. In perspective it could be extended via Dungarvan all the way to Waterford, as Cork and Waterford are the only major cities in Ireland not connected by a railway.
They reason it never went to Durgarvan was due to the topography of the land. The climb out of Dungarvan is evidence of this.
I don't think that this railway would ever have been dismantled had it been built on the route I mentioned.
Stunning videographical study of Irish transport history brought to a Local, National and International audience.
Great video thanks. I plan to visit this regularly, a lot nearer than Dungarvan greenway.
Great use of the old railways. Will bring much needed tourism to these locations.
excellent job.
I’m planning out a review of the old railway lines that could be reopened. I’m thinking they should move the greenway to allow for the railway to come back to Youghal. Could that be possible?
Irish rail have said that they reserve the right of way and the right to restore the railway in the future if the need arises.
The chances of that happening are slim to none . Realistically, there isn't a population density in Youghal to justify the investment of a new railway line . It would make more sense to build a light rail network from Ballincollig into cork and out to Douglas- like the dublin luas . That would be a far better spend of whatever infrastructure money is coming corks way in terms of rail.
Just because something could be reopened doesn't mean it should
@@dronehawk that is a fair statement, although I’ve heard about traffic becoming an issue in Youghal. If that is true then what would be the solution other than the greenway?
Irish Rail still have the right of way to reinstate the rail line if its required and it could happen.
Your kidding right ?
No the provision is there , how it will be done is interesting. East Cork is a major commuter corridor with Youghal , Killeagh and Mogelly which includes Castlemartyr.
I’d hardly describe that as a major corridor - Youghal a few thousand people and the rest tiny hamlets not worth mentioning. Far more people will use this greenway than a railway.
@@spacetweekas someone who works in east cork all the time I can guarantee you that Mogeely & Killeagh are growing and growing year on year with new estates popping up like mushrooms. Not exactly that tiny anymore.
Cant wait to test out my 3000watt ebike on this.
that's a motor bike😂🤣
Many thanks for the up-date. This is all very impressive even over the top. A facility for a tiny minority of enthusiasts on bikes who will not be liked by walkers looking for a quiet country walk. Having said that many walkers do not want a municipalised tarmac path in a straight line but would prefer a circuit . The skewed farm track over bridge is an extravagance .My guess is that an E U grant paid for part of this. Is the gross width of the railway land sufficient for a railway track with a bridleway alongside?
I doubt the lycra clad brigade will want to use it much. Too many young children and pet dogs . Not a good idea to have cyclists passing close range at 30 kph .
Not to mention the electric bikes Best from Norwich and occasionally from West Cork@@dronehawk
Its not really for road racing cyclists,
And its not really going to have a lot of commuter cyclists because its between midleton and mogeely, ,
I assume there'll be plenty of dog walkers and joggers , and kids and families on bikes
Greenways are mostly for cyclists and walkers should give way. The cattle bridge is essential in order to prevent cattle escaping onto the greenway and being an impediment to greenway users. I don’t see how EU grants are relevant and it’s highly unlikely one was involved here - this is commonly assumed but usually not the case. Bridleways are a British thing and not found in Ireland. The railway should not be reinstated as there is no business case or population for it.
Point taken about the cattle bridge and bridleways . Nevertheless it looks like a very expensive alternative to having field gates unless the cyclists must protected from the hazards of cow pats on the macadam. I suppose that cycling in a straight line on the level has its attractions and at least it is safe..@@spacetweek
Restore the railway, fuck these stupid greenways removing a serious needed piece of transport that we should have more of. Not pointless paths for walkers & cyclists.
Parts of the railway line not greenway should be reopened to trains.
Couldn’t a few custom made carriages with rubber wheels be pulled along by some sort of vehicle, on that new road, in place of a train. Back and forth at the appropriate times throughout the day ?
Not a bad idea
I hear that Iarmrod Eireann had been considering substituting something like the vehicle you mention for the LimJnctn-Waterford line for regular trains because of the low usage of the route. It might make sense here because there simply is not the population on the route to justify a regular train. People ought to stop reading. Enid Blyton books sentimentalising and. romanticising rural rail services featuring deferential rosy-cheeked Stationmasters growing prize-winning flower displays !@@dronehawk
Nope: railway any time.
I can't see the old , disabled , people with families and babies cycling that , but they could be on a train
I take it you’ve never been to the Netherlands then.
Give it back to the trains! 😡
Eamon says no
@@dronehawk who's Eamon?
Ryan
No case for trains here, tiny villages only
@@spacetweek OUR TRAINS MATTER!!!!
I am sure that it is always better to reopen the railway . These cycle ways are mostly used by just a few people , much less than the promotion people promised...
That's true , however to be fair , I don't think the size of the population of youghal would make the railway a viable investment in this case. A light suburban railway in the City between Ballincollig and Douglas, or even carrigaline would be a better use of any infrastructure funds.
Maybe...
Did you ever hear about the 2 way bus in Japan ?