British Special Forces - Bulgarian-Ottoman Relations - Caporetto I OUT OF THE TRENCHES

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  • @ahmetben8812
    @ahmetben8812 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    There is the diary of second lieutenant Mehmet Şevgi Yazman(1896-1974) who fought at the Eastern Front along with the Austrians.It is a 300 pages book and he barely mentioned Bulgarians and Bulgaria . He only mentioned:
    " (...)we passed through Bulgaria(...) we stopped a station belongs to Bulgarians, went a restaurant and meals were so delicious etc."

  • @eeeboytvr
    @eeeboytvr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Every time I watch 'Out of the trenches' I picture Flo behind the camera strumming his spanish guitar!

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      it's actually Toni playing but otherwise it's accurate

  • @allanlank
    @allanlank 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Concerning the aggressive Canadian troops, I have heard this story. A German prisoner asked a Canadian soldier why they fought so fiercely. The soldier replied "The French and the British can go home for the weekend, we're stuck here for the duration".

    • @otakunthevegan4206
      @otakunthevegan4206 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      allan lanktree A German veteran of world war 2 said the Germans feared the Canadian soldiers more then the Americans.

    • @IMAN-od8jv
      @IMAN-od8jv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakunthevegan4206 why?

  • @MrSwatbg
    @MrSwatbg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The Bulgarian forces have fought together with Ottoman troops here and there, close cooperation was limited. The Bulgarians did clash with their ally, Austro-Hungary, in Serbia, and close, intensive cooperation with the Turks has been considered risky and not very wise idea. Makensen himself has been aware of the risks.
    In his telegram to the commander of III-rd Bulgarian army, Gen.Stefan Toshev, Makensen writes: _"The Turkish troops are good, but they are fit mainly for defense. They should be looked upon as the Bulgarian troops from second line and the Turkish troops to be used for defense."_
    The Ottoman troops in times showed excellent defensive qualities indeed. Their co-actions with the Bulgarians mostly were expressed in either additive support for the Bulgarians, or Bulgarian involvement (under Bulgarian initiative) in case the earth beneath the Ottoman's feet gets too hot. An example for that is when (on 04.10.1916.) *Ivan Kolev's cavalry* has filled in the defense gaps of the *25th Turkish infantry division* during a successfull but short-lasting Russian penetration at the villages of Cumana (Mustafa Hacı) and Tataru (Azaplar) south of Constanta. And this is just one example.
    Earlier, on 20.09.1916, evening, the *25th Turkish infantry division and battalions of 59 and 75 Nizam regiments* have been put under Bulgaria's III-rd army command, and deployed on the position between the villages of Azaplar (Tataru) and Erebler. The task given by the Bulgarian high command has been to counter any attack between the troops in Dobrich and the division of Gen.Ivan Kolev. The *15th Turkish infantry division* has been put under the command of the *25th Turkish inf.division's* leadership, and deployed on the same defesive line, just behind the right flank.
    On 21.09.1916, morning, the Romanians (6th joint Romanian brigade, 5th joint Romanian brigade) attack the left flank of of the Dobrich positions, direction - the village of Engets, where the *74th Turkish regiment* is located. Accurate artillery fire has forced the Romanians to stop. During the day's second half, the Bulgarian troops in Dobrich, assisted by 6th Bdin, *25th Turkish* divisions and part of Gen.Ivan Kolev's cavalry division have launched counter-offensive, turning the Romanians into rout.
    In the first and second battles of Cobadin, together with German aid for the Bulgarians, there were Ottoman troops too.
    The mentioned Turkish divisions also have some significant notable accomplishments under their own initiative too, mainly after a successfull defense and counter-attack, but according to records, mis-organisation often halted a chase after Romanian forces in rout due to either lack of shells for the artillery or slow movement.
    These are just few notes. There's a lot more that can be written. Entire battles are often recorded hour by hour in Bulgarian logs, or whole campaigns, assault after assault, defense after defense.
    So, yes - The Bulgarian forces have had shared lines with the Ottoman ones, but not to a degree they've had with the Germans.

    • @runway1898
      @runway1898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      THANK YOU FOR THIS! I wish there was more info about wartime Bulgaria in English that was ratably available

  • @dobriltanev9722
    @dobriltanev9722 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    As a guy who come from a Bulgarian family if Historians,I can tell You that (it is quite well known to be honest,We study it at school) The Ottoman Empire gave Bulgaria 2,500 square killometers of land in Trace (Trakia).And both nations were unhappy with the Balkan wars (Bulgarians mostly with the Second and the Ottoman Empire with the First).My Grandmother told me about my grand grand father (Her grandfather),who was taken as POW after the war (WWI) and taken to Romania.There were a LOT of deseases while in POW camp and most of the people who went there,died.Lice were basicly endemic and so was Typhus.

  • @RolfHartmann
    @RolfHartmann 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I love a report from one of the British commanders at Gallipoli where he in part credited a failed offensive which nearly succeeded on the lack of Gurkhas in his forces saying something extremely British like: On that mountainous ground those little fellows would have been at their jolly best.

    • @Entropyisheresy
      @Entropyisheresy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I have mad respect for the Nepalese people, incredibly generous and hospitable when they want to be while being incredible fighters when they have to be.

    • @RolfHartmann
      @RolfHartmann 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Singapore even has special units of Nepalese police.

    • @IMAN-od8jv
      @IMAN-od8jv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RolfHartmann yeah I've seen it in the port of Singapore

  • @adrianayala5476
    @adrianayala5476 7 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Indy looks a bit tired in this video. Don't overwork yourself guys.

    • @edwil111
      @edwil111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      meh maybe had some vodka or schnapps.

    • @Yuffie777
      @Yuffie777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rude...

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:22 never change Indy ❤

  • @hansheden
    @hansheden 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    1:30
    "Winter was coming."
    Bloody Starks. There're everywhere.

  • @varovaro1967
    @varovaro1967 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best channel ever? Yes! Definitely! Thank you forever! Who else views chapters more than once?

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We usually watch them more than once haha.

  • @kknives36
    @kknives36 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    So my Great Grandpa was from Bulgaria (and is why I'm Orthodox) but his dad fought in WW1. Though I live in Texas. He told my grandfather that he hated the Turks and Germans equally. A lot of Bulgarian people hated the war in general. However they saw it as integral to the nation's survival.

    • @DarthYasen
      @DarthYasen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      you should come back here, in Bulgaria

    • @simeondunev4890
      @simeondunev4890 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      come back to Bulgaria ! We will welcome you with open arms

    • @DarthYasen
      @DarthYasen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes, open bottles too, if you are into that sort of thing ;)

    • @kknives36
      @kknives36 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to go to Bulgaria and drink a few beers and some rakija!

    • @DarthYasen
      @DarthYasen 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      call us up if you ever drop by sofiya

  • @lelpolel7347
    @lelpolel7347 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    There're many anecdotes about Turks and Bulgarians in Mehmet Sevki Yazman's 'Kumandanım Galiçya ne yana düşer' (Where is this Galicia, commander?). They simply did not like each other and turkish soldiers passing by Bulgaria were concerned about their safety.

    • @lelpolel7347
      @lelpolel7347 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As I know, this book is available only in turkish and polish.

  • @Deathskull0001
    @Deathskull0001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    There's a website called literaly bulgarianhistory it's run by a group of highly motivated young people, they do research into exactly stuff like this. Like for example they had an article about a French soldier in WWI who's letters were found or captured I cant remember, describing how apparently they thought we were cannibals and were utterly horrified at the possibility of capture. I'm pretty sure they'd be willing to translate or at least point to sources were you to contact them.

    • @markototev
      @markototev 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Link me this site?

    • @Deathskull0001
      @Deathskull0001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      bulgarianhistory.org

    • @Kentucky_Caveman
      @Kentucky_Caveman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deathskull0001 thanks for the link!

  • @johnsproule1645
    @johnsproule1645 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    7:22 : British infantry tactics involved flying overhead in red airplanes?

    • @johnsproule1645
      @johnsproule1645 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see it's the right link now. Love the show.

  • @chrispza
    @chrispza 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Indy and crew, thank you for maintaining a level of excellence and a plethora of historical insight delivered with panache and verve.
    Perhaps you may have mentioned it in your talks, but I feel this bears repeating: the Last Post Association in Ieper (Ypres) is the society that has the honourable task of maintaining the traditional sounding of the Last Post at the Menin Gate every evening, and an especially momentous ceremony there on 11/11/2018.
    The Association publishes regular E-mail bulletins, and one may join oneself. There is even an app!
    Thanks again, Indy, and I hope you get as much from this project as you give to us.

  • @jazepi22
    @jazepi22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for answering my question! Great answer.

  • @andrescheerrahald
    @andrescheerrahald 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "winter is coming..." 1:31

  • @davididiart5934
    @davididiart5934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Three cheers for the TGW crew! Hip-Hip!

  • @CzarOfMars
    @CzarOfMars 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hi Indy and crew! I have a question regarding OOTT: do you really come up with the answers on the spot like it is shown in the video, or do you prepare your answers. I am extremely impressed that you would know that much simply off the top of your head.

  • @YvonTripper
    @YvonTripper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching a Canadian series called the Valour and Horror, which said that Australia and Canada were less industrialized than Britain or France during World War I, and so more of their troops were agricultural workers who were more prepared for trench life (digging, dealing with the elements, etc.) so they got a reputation as being superior troops (but that by World War II that had all changed).

  • @eoingarry912
    @eoingarry912 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great episode

  • @mblac19
    @mblac19 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Around 7:09 there's a picture of british troops. One of the soldiers has what looks like a roman horsehair crest on his helmet. What's up with that? I'm trying to think of reasons for it beyond decoration and I can't. Not only that but it would be such an unusual decoration that I'd wonder that the officers let him get away with it (unless he is an officer?) and would be more likely to draw unwanted enemy attention and fire.

    • @sherk3286
      @sherk3286 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe he was just horsin around

    • @jakejackson4177
      @jakejackson4177 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can answer one thing for certain, he is definitely not an officer, although it is true that many officers adopted the uniforms of their men in some respects in order to be less identifiable, they would not have carried the amount of equipment that this soldier is carrying, the full webbing and marching order kit etc...an officer kit was generally consisted of, a sam browne belt with revolver and holster, a case for binoculars, a map case and a canteen.
      With regards to what is on the mans helmet, the helmets generally had a cloth covering on them in order to prevent sunlight reflecting off them so they wouldn't stand out more than what they already were and for camouflage purposes, so its possible it is merely the cloth covering that has somehow come loose and just been folded back for the time being, just a theory on that last part though but possible.

    • @scruffscruffeton986
      @scruffscruffeton986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It appears to be an air burst of an artillery round. The soldier's head is covering up the lower part of the blast.

  • @AYoutubeAccountName
    @AYoutubeAccountName 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perhaps a fun anecdote for OOTT Guinness (as in the drinks company) had a small fleet of ships and one barge was commandeered for use in the great war and another was sunk, It would be interesting if you could find out more about their stories I couldn't find out what the barge was used for but the other ship I think just hit a mine.

  • @alfonsomora92
    @alfonsomora92 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys! You said to remind you about the German Asian Corps Special, so I was wondering in you still had plans to make it. Love your show! Keep up the great work! Greetings from México!! 🇲🇽

  • @spenserjohnson9215
    @spenserjohnson9215 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be cool to have a ticker tape scrolling along the bottom updating us with extra facts and figures, as well as a blow-by-blow of the action on the western front, even when quiet.

  • @lachd2261
    @lachd2261 7 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Many of the elite British units were in the BEF in 1914, and most had been killed by 1915.
    Australian, New Zealand and Canadian troops were thus often considered fitter and stronger than their British Tommy conscript counterparts, and that’s why they were considered shock troops. They were also, in some cases, better led by tactical innovators rather than the crusty establishment British.
    In addition, many of the conscript Tommies were working class, living and working in poor conditions at home and were not well fed.
    One of the reasons why the British liberal welfare reforms were so popular in 1908 was that there was a big moral panic in the decades before the war that a large percentage of the British population were physically unfit for military service. Some of these troops would not have been accepted for service in 1914 but were conscripted later.
    By contrast, the dominion troops often lived in superior conditions at home. By 1917 they were battle hardened troops.

    • @iseeyou1312
      @iseeyou1312 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Australia also never had conscription during WW1 and the vast majority of troops (80%+) from NZ and Canada were volunteers.

    • @lovefist208
      @lovefist208 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pretty sure indy also shares your opinion in this very clip. did you watch the whole clip solaris 24?

    • @bloodndestroy
      @bloodndestroy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Julius Caesar once said "it is not these well fed long haired men that I fear but the pale and the hungry looking." The best fighters, in war and sports, almost always exclusively come from poverty or a life of hardship. Combat of any kind is usually more mental than physical, although the well fed long haired men do make impressive looking imperial guards!

    • @Murray.Sutherland
      @Murray.Sutherland 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Solaris 24, in intelligence reports captured from the Germans in 1918 and regarding the New Zealanders. The assessment was in specific comparisons to a British division next to it on the front. The things noted where the relative independent nature of the colonial British in comparison to divisions raised in Britain. The qualities of there training (specifically the number trained to use the lewis gun). And their level of motivation, I.e. my Kiwi forebears could be, to put it delicately, real haters... the assessment in summary stated that the New Zealanders where quantitatively and qualitatively superior to their British counterparts, and that they wanted to accurately define their location on the frontline.

    • @iseeyou1312
      @iseeyou1312 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caesar wasn't talking about soldiers, but rather the capacity for revolution. Those who are placated are unlikely to rebel against authority.

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was generally said that the Dominion folk were accustomed to looking after themselves in the outdoors, as well as having practical experience with guns and horses, compared to the average soldier from the UK ☆

    • @LtKharn
      @LtKharn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except of course that most of them were urban or sub-urban, not that being a hardy outdoorsman will help you much in an arty barrage or in the muddy trenches of ww1.

  • @Captainflake99
    @Captainflake99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Indy. Have you ever heard of the incident during the ruso japanese war with the british fishermen? i know its out of the scale of the war but it was something our history teacher loved to bring up.
    Essentially what happened was that the russian baltic fleet was required in the sea of japan so it made it long journey around. as it got to the north sea the baltic fleet spotted small vessels in the distances and somehow thought they were japanese warships, (submarines i think he said). so the fleet enaged them and took outa few ships before realising that it was a british fishing ship.
    The press found out about this and the major nations closed their ports to the baltic fleet, so not only could they not go through the suez canal, they had to go around the cape of cope hope on coal fumes no chance of making port to refuel. so by the time they arrived in the sea of japan they were in no fit state to fight.
    its not that relevant but its one of those moments which oyu see in the great war were nothing went to plan and people to eager to fight and make mistakes.
    anyway love the chanel, keep it up :)

    • @sherk3286
      @sherk3286 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Captainflake99 The Baltic fleet being late and undersupplied played a major role in Russia losing the war, which of course helped set up Russia's position to start the Great war

    • @Philip_of_Santos
      @Philip_of_Santos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Captainflake99 It almost led to war especially both empires are in a state of Cold War in Central Asia and in China also. The british public especially in the newspapers were calling the Russians “Drunk as usual” and other anti Russian sentiments. However, the Russians were the first ones who approach them and apologise to the British goverment and pay compensations to the families of the British fishermen who are involved in the Dogger Bank incident. The British also were held back by their new entente cordiale which was also an ally of Russia. Which was France

    • @Captainflake99
      @Captainflake99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kevin Philippe C Santos that's it I remember my teacher saying that the sailors were drunk hence their mistake. But you are correct they were hesitant about accepting the compensation as they were also in a defensive alliance or something or other with Japan. When I tell other people about this no one has ever heard of this.. I'm glad a few people did 😀

    • @Captainflake99
      @Captainflake99 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird Al Spank a Bitch absolutely. Perhaps if this didn't happen the war on the eastern front would have been different and even if the war had proceeded as it did up to 1917 the sailors of Kronstadt involvement in the revolution may not have been as significant

    • @Kentucky_Caveman
      @Kentucky_Caveman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Captainflake99 interesting story.

  • @michaeldugas7362
    @michaeldugas7362 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I especially enjoyed the soft jazz guitar in the background

    • @dinosaurfilms
      @dinosaurfilms 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha, I just realised that!

  • @erichrabal2350
    @erichrabal2350 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Indie and crew, I have watched your show for a year now, and I believe I have a good understanding of the war and it’s been a while since you’ve done a special on the actual trenches of the war. Could you cover how men put them together, kept them from caving in, etc.

  • @blakerobson9312
    @blakerobson9312 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indy and guys love your work! amazing stuff
    but please make sure you take care of yourselves, you look tired Indy and im sure everyone here will understand if you guys are a day or two late with an episode just so you can rest

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like the Regimental Kukri in the background.

  • @enveenva5584
    @enveenva5584 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nearly 800k now

  • @The_Republic_of_Ireland
    @The_Republic_of_Ireland 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this channel so much!

  • @bipedaltoad
    @bipedaltoad 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Indy, would you ever consider making an episode about the newfoundland regiment? Keep up the great work!

    • @bipedaltoad
      @bipedaltoad 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve Kaczynski I know. Out of over 800, around 180 made it back, very tragic. We lost so many in one day.

  • @MrBandholm
    @MrBandholm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding British elite units, one cannot completely dismiss the Royal Marines, although not often used, they did have a few raids, that would be considered actions of elite units.

  • @nesa1126
    @nesa1126 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode! Thanks

  • @Audunforgard
    @Audunforgard 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Methinks Indy is more than a little bit hungover here :D

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Nice job.

  • @MrFloz85
    @MrFloz85 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question for OOTT. My grandmother told me that her grandfather served in the German army on the Eastern Front, and was taken prisoner at some point. He was moved to a POW camp in Siberia, but because he was a carpenter, nearby farms would often "borrow" him for work, so he apparently remembered his time in Siberia fondly, with decent food and a sleeping place near the stove. My grandma said that he didn't return home until the early 1920s though, and apparently by initially travelling east to Vladivostok and then back to Germany by boat.
    My question is this: what do we know about what happened to Central Powers POWs after the Russian Revolution? Was there some sort of coordinated return of prisoners, or did they just sort of get lost in the chaos of the civil war to make their own way home, as my great-great-grandfather apparently did? Thanks for doing this show guys, and keep up the good work!

  • @DarthYasen
    @DarthYasen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do a special on Vladimir Vazov(and the Vazov brothers in general, they are all great men that have influenced our culture a lot )

  • @janwacawik7432
    @janwacawik7432 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Howdy, Indy and team! I and many others would love to hear you tell us the story of the French Blue Devils. What were they equipped with? What was their purpose? Were they really the equivalent of German Sturmtruppen? I would be delighted to hear Indy explain that. And a little post-scriptum, because Indy butchered my surname a bit last time, it is pronounced like "Vatslavik" Cheerio, fellas.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      if you give us photos of these guys and a good English source, your video will be ready in no time

    • @janwacawik7432
      @janwacawik7432 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Great War Unfortunately, I know no sources of information regarding them. I only know that they were a part of Chasseurs Alpins and took part in the Battle of Yser. Unfortunately I don't know any book about them, but there should be scraps of info online.

  • @quantitativeease
    @quantitativeease 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm disappointed you guys are not coming to the States, but I cannot say I am surprised. It seemed a ridiculously expensive proposition, especially in proportion to the role of the U.S. in the war. I wish I could go to one of your Europe meet-ups.

    • @quantitativeease
      @quantitativeease 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh, believe me-I know that! I'm American and grew up in military communities. Russia going out of the war without the U.S.A. coming in could well have handed victory to the Central Powers.

  • @flakafazliu4776
    @flakafazliu4776 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hey Indy could Bulgaria have stayed out of the war and if so would that have made a difference. Love the show keep up the great work.

    • @aleksk4151
      @aleksk4151 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if Bulgaria took Entente side , it would have made big difference with COnstantinople/Istanbul issue. The Ottoman empire would be overwhelmed because it would not have Bulgaria (as an ally) as a barrier to guard their Western border and Istanbul would have probably been captured !

  • @BillyMartin4Life
    @BillyMartin4Life 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You put the wrong link at the end, that's sends me to the video on the red baron. Interesting as it is, it's not the video that you plugged at the end.
    Outside of that, great video as always

  • @batuhantuncdemir5384
    @batuhantuncdemir5384 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    About Bulgarian - Ottoman troop relations issue: from the book "Commander, where is Galicia?" by Şevki Yazman (a WW1 turkish officer that served in Galician Front): "Neither us, nor the Bulgarians could see each other as friends. But being allies, they provided supplies for us." I didn't read the book (it's old and hard to find these days), just found some passages after a quick net search. It seems there was dislike between Ottoman and Bulgarian troops but no major bad behaviour against each other. The governments had already quickly put aside the hostilities of Balkan Wars I suppose, for Bulgarians wanted to capture Greek-Serbian-Romanian territory and Ottomans wanted to take Egypt from Britain and Caucasus from Russia with no rush for any Macedonian territory. So both governments had different priorities by that time, causing no conflict.

  • @12coudak000
    @12coudak000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The face expressions and clothes hasn't changed since 1914

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did read a few months ago about the British coming up with the idea for special forces prior to WW1 but they did not follow it through. Having said that WW2 saw the SAS, the SBS, Army and Royal Marine commandos along with the paratroopers, as well as other specialist groups. So when we got there we did not mess about.
    Also many British regiments were elite forces, such as the Highlanders. The Highlanders were one of the few that the German Prussian regiments did not like to face.

  • @Delta2196
    @Delta2196 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe the reason why Canadian and Australian forces were more perceived as Shock Troopers is because they had a different way of fighting then typical European style or more of incorporated European training into the style of fighting that is used in fighting in the environments of the countries. I mean, personally as a Canadian myself, the style of warfare that is based in Canada throughout the wars such as the war of 1812 and the way Canadian hunters hunted animals is different compared to European style. Keep up the good work on the videos though!

  • @Elador1000
    @Elador1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hope you still plan to do another video about Czechoslovak legions.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      we do

    • @Elador1000
      @Elador1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great. I am looking forward to it :)

  • @Whattwa
    @Whattwa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd suggest that dominion troops may have been more agressive due to their upbringing. A lot of ANZAC soldiers came from rugged rural environments and thus grew up active and vigorous, that paired with a desire of both men and officers to prove their worth as equals with the British.

    • @LtKharn
      @LtKharn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In reality, most ANZAC where not rugged rurals, that is a myth, then as now, the Australian population was mostly urban. As so their army was also mostly urban.

    • @vitabricksnailslime8273
      @vitabricksnailslime8273 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +LtKharn. What you say is entirely true, but it obscures the nature of the urban development at the time. My own father, born 1912, used to trap and shoot rabbits as a youth around places as close in as Marrickville (the Warren is still a location) and Earlwood in Sydney. Similarly named the Rabbitohs of South Sydney. Many urban dwellers still had easy access to lots of outdoors activities, hiking and camping being very popular pastimes.

    • @etiennesauve3386
      @etiennesauve3386 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      At first I thought a bit the same thing. Life in Canada in the early 20th century was not easy, many people were working as lumberjack in the winter. My grandfather was in the army in WWII and had still had worked as a lumberjack most of his life. He camped under a tent in winter in Québec City and that was one of his best memories as one of the best winter he had. Thought conditions breed though men.
      The thing is that about half of the men of the canadian contingent in 1918 had been born in the british isles so I'm not sure to what extend the harsh living conditions influenced the toughness of the men. It could be true for some regiments like the 22nd since it was made up of french canadian, thus born in canada and had endured harsh conditions in their daily life but even if the physical conditions of the men were superior, poor moral would have made them poor fighters.
      Maybe the dominion troops felt like they were seen as inferior by their british counterpart and felt the need to prove themselves.

  • @sm3393
    @sm3393 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question for Out of the Trenches: I know that alcohol was very important to troop morale on the front lines. And that back home it was viewed as an impediment to the war effort. I was wondering the role of soft drinks during ww1. Keep up the good work!

  • @danieltaylor5542
    @danieltaylor5542 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Four Cheers For Flo!

  • @haydonanderson1430
    @haydonanderson1430 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did Indy just say "Winter is coming"

  • @keithyork7691
    @keithyork7691 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Indi,
    I was interested in your comments about the Commonwealth troops having a reputation of agressiveness and being regarded as Shock Troops. As an Australian and Great War historian I am familiar with these storiies. I am also lead to believe that due to a number of issues the Commonwealth troops felt a need to prove themselves. Remembering that the attitude to war was ,especially at the beginning, that it was the proving ground for the worth of a nation. Australian federation was in 1901, New Zealand 1906 and Canada in 1867.., all young countries. As for command of these national forces and the easier relationships between ranks (particularly in the AIF) because the class system of Britain was not strictly adhered to in these nations. Do you agree with this assessment?

  • @jakejackson4177
    @jakejackson4177 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Day to Indy and his fellow informers. I have a question for OOTT, would you please give a little background knowledge to the role that the new Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary Karl I played during the war and his role during the sixtus affair, there doesn't seem to be much written on Karl and I would appreciate your thoughts on him and his role during the war.
    Thank you and I hope this makes it onto the show, keep up with all the splendid work that you do and looking forward to all the spiffing future episodes! Pip Pip!

  • @akillerpacman1709
    @akillerpacman1709 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey TGW crew I have a question for OOTT. What sort of music was popular with troops, during ww1?

  • @jeffmcarthur5617
    @jeffmcarthur5617 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just FYI, the link you have in the tag at the end is of the Red Barron, not of British infantry tactics as Indy says. Not a big deal of course, but if you want to fix that, I thought I'd point it out.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      fixed now, thanks Jeff.

  • @GravesRWFiA
    @GravesRWFiA 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the dominion forces wewre all volunteers, by this point of the war the UK forces had conscripts in them andi t resulted in a lower quality. As for british SF. the overall sense of a 'game' meant that most troops were capable of a raid, the playing wizard jpes on the enemy-tactics in a raid weretoss a few bombs in and rush in and grab the survivors. if you read the autobiographies of men like Robert graves, Basil Rathbone and Harry Drinkwater you get a feel for the idea that nay soldier could be expected to, and carry out raids without extra training.

  • @stupidturntable
    @stupidturntable 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is whoever strumming those jazz chords in the not distant enough backround play a Hötzendorfer?

  • @kstreet7438
    @kstreet7438 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello team again. Always make it to every video within 30 mins lol

  • @sven_the_giant
    @sven_the_giant 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe another reason why the Australians and Canadians were considered shock troops is because they were a "heartier" people. Having endured harsher climates and living in relative desolate areas, they developed a nack for survival, toughness, built stronger bodies and a had a relentless resolve for life and autonomy. Some of these men developed a hard as nails ethos from living in the sticks.

  • @reigoraal913
    @reigoraal913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indy will you do a special episode for Estonia because it's gonna be the 100th birthday of Estonia on the 24th of February?
    Love your videos, keep up the grat work

  • @w0lfgm
    @w0lfgm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For Bulgarians - they will open their archives in about 50 years. For Ottomans, well good luck.

    • @KofteG61
      @KofteG61 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A really big problem is that not a lot of people can read old Ottoman Script, since the language and alphabet changed. Also a lot of documents were destroyed by either fires, floods, enemies and sometimes probably even by the new government.

  • @shogoyamagishi
    @shogoyamagishi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice background music

  • @searaider2466
    @searaider2466 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 7:08 the second fellow from the right, carrying an entrenching tool and a rifle, appears to be wearing something on his helmet. (Looks to me like an Ancient Greek style adornment) I know it was common for soldiers in the trenches to modify their equipment, is it possible for anyone to share some insight into wether soldiers would decorate their helmets like this?

  • @australiaday637
    @australiaday637 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indy I have heard that that the Australian troop when on strike because of the continued use of them as shock troop is this true. Love the channel

  • @SovietDoge
    @SovietDoge 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey super Indy and crew! I've got a burning question for months now: Did music play a big role during the war? Were songs used to boost morale? Were there like hits throughout the trenches? I'd love to know. Keep up the good work comrades!

  • @bazzatheblue
    @bazzatheblue 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There were no Great War equivalents to the SAS in the British army,though there were elite regiments such as the Guards regiments the Grenadiers or Coldstreams,and the Highlanders who were generally the shock troops of the British army since the union of 1707,if the British needed an enemy shifted they generally put the jocks in first,but the Anzacs and equally the Canadians and Newfoundlanders were formidable in ww1.

  • @breeroberts1777
    @breeroberts1777 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was this the first episode to have background music? I spent half the video pausing it trying to find the source of it until I decided it was actually coming from the show. :)~

  • @cyborgrat
    @cyborgrat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Germans were affraid of Canadians because they didnt break the line when gas got used, they tough(if i remember right) they were ghosts.

  • @jagamoasta2310
    @jagamoasta2310 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hy Indie and the Crew, I wanted to ask you what your favourite/in your opinion best Bolt action rifle (Exept M98 and German Weapon) of the war was. And what do you think of the Steyr Arms (because i am from Austria this would interrest me). You and all of the Crew ceep up the great Work because you are really talented in it.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      frag mal lieber Othais oder Ian, ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass noch niemand in unserer gesamten Crew jemals ein Gewehr aus dem 1. Weltkrieg in der Hand hatte.

    • @jagamoasta2310
      @jagamoasta2310 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Great War Ja aber sie werden sich doch sicher ein wenig auskennen oder?! Das sind doch Historisch bewanderte Leute die sich für den Krieg interresieren da Sind doch Gewehre ein wesentlicher Faktor!

  • @parkerholder3159
    @parkerholder3159 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question for Indy and the team. What is your plan for the future after the end of the war? Other than the Treaty of Versailles, will you do the Russian Civil war or The Second World War? I know that the latter is a stretch but I’m sure that I and many countless of others wouldn’t mind that it wouldn’t be recorded 100 years later. Keep up the good work!!!

  • @historysabo3208
    @historysabo3208 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Indy I have a question for out of the Trenches. My Great Great grandfather was an officer in the Royal Italian engineers during the war and lost a leg in the fighting. What function did the engineers play on the Italian front, what were the duties of an engineer officer, would he have seen combat or mostly been assigned to duties behind the line?

  • @chrismusix5669
    @chrismusix5669 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's RIGHT you better answer all my questions about the First World War! Rawwwrr!

  • @toastyshortz4520
    @toastyshortz4520 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey are you guys gonna do videos for the new battlefield 1 trailers?

  • @griffingetz530
    @griffingetz530 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Indie I love the show and have a question for out of the trenches about communication during the Great War. Since Radio wasn’t used at the time how would pilots communicate with each other in Ariel combat?

  • @otterwingate7581
    @otterwingate7581 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if Indy could talk about the border regiment. More specifically the second battalion. I'm trying to find some ancestors one of which being 202856 J. Grisedale but I'm having problems pin pointing any specific battles. God bless.

  • @papabearpaw5866
    @papabearpaw5866 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take care

  • @JSAst
    @JSAst 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So apparently the red baron really influenced the evolution of British infantry tactics?

  • @johnkilmartin5101
    @johnkilmartin5101 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dominion troops had lower numbers of conscripts, more ardent imperialists and a higher percentage of rural troops who required self motivation in their civilian lives.

  • @canbalciogluvb
    @canbalciogluvb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The only advantage the Ottoman Empire expected and got from Bulgaria being an ally is the railway connection to AH and Germany. This meant that Big Berthas could be brought to the Gallipoli front agains the allies thus one of the main reasons why The Allies decided to evacuate Gallipoli.

    • @summertimej7316
      @summertimej7316 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The great advantage the Ottoman Empire got from Bulgaria being an ally was that the Bulgarians stopped the Russians in Dobrudja on their way to Constantinople….The Ottoman capital was the main Russian aim in this war. The Russians were absolutely sure that they will take it but didn’t succeed due to Bulgarian participation on Central Power’s side.

    • @901Sherman
      @901Sherman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@summertimej7316 When was it stated that they were gonna invade Constantinople via Dobrudja? Only one source states of such plans and even then, those turned out to be rumors. Plus, there were still Russians beating back the Turks in the Caucasus and while those were ridiculously farther, they could still posse a threat to the capital.

    • @summertimej7316
      @summertimej7316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@901Sherman Probably the Russians wouldn’t invade Constantinople via Dobrudja but the Bulgarians could invade it via Thrace if they were Entente ally … They were very close to do it only 2 years earlier, during the Balkan wars. Churchill wanted very much Bulgaria as an ally. In this case the war would be over 2 years earlier, Brits wouldn’t have so much casualties, and Constantinople would be taken from the Turks for sure. My point is that Bulgaria’s role in the war was very significant.

  • @majormegamagor
    @majormegamagor 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a question for out of the trenches: I know that nations experimented with all sorts of weapons. But how did a soldier on battlefield got to use it? Were THE soldiers chosen randomly or were they trained to handle such weapons. And when they used it, were they giving any feedback to high command? Thanks for answer. Keep up the good work!

  • @bananabishop
    @bananabishop 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the love of god, do a video of BF1 Rising Tides!

  • @diamondknifer4441
    @diamondknifer4441 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dear Indy and crew, hey it's me again I have a very interesting question for out of the trenches. For years my grandpa, a Vietnam vet told me stories about his time in the war before he died. One of the stories he told me was a rumor when he was station in the south was one of the tortures the Vietcong did to POWs was they would force you to eat the meat of your fellow dead comrades all though he told me it was a rumor and was probably not true it got me thinking was there any incidents of cannibalism in war. Especially during wwi during the winters like in the mountains when the Russians and there enemies had short food supplies. Also on a side was it true that Russians had to fight off wolves during the war.
    Thanks for the hard work I been a fan since cody for alternate history hub show me your channel

    • @jakejackson4177
      @jakejackson4177 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indy will answer the part in regarding the war I am sure, but I can tell you that in the Russian civil war there was definitely episodes of cannibalism, especially in places like Ukraine, which until 1918 was the breadbasket of Russia, but when the Bolsheviks requisitioned most of it for their war against the various white forces, it led to massed starvation and famine, much as it did when Stalin did the same 20 years later.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1921%E2%80%9322
      i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/12/30/12/3BB6B4F200000578-0-image-a-22_1483101155805.jpg
      Don't look at the second image if you don't like the idea of seeing human suffering or are of a nervous disposition.

    • @diamondknifer4441
      @diamondknifer4441 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jake Jackson, thanks I hope Indy answers this in out of the trenches

  • @baron_von_brunk
    @baron_von_brunk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indy, it looks like you just finished a four-day bender of drinking energy drinks, playing Super Mario Bros. 3, and not sleeping.

  • @Rollins36LP
    @Rollins36LP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    He said "Winter is comming" without any special Voice or Gesture :(

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      First of all he said "Winter was comming", secondly as "everybody" knows: winter is already here...

  • @Angrychickenthatflys
    @Angrychickenthatflys 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do one on the Polar Bear expedition. That shit was cool as hell, allied coalition face of against bolshevik forces in east siberia.

  • @Jonnythehatguy11
    @Jonnythehatguy11 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting you bring up Canadians and Austrailians as the British equivalent to shock troops. As a Canadian I've done alot of my own reading as well as visited local museums about Canadian tactics and specifically how they differed from those of the British. One reason for this I learned is that while the Canadians were the most significant Colonial presence on the Western Front they were still limited in number to those when compared to the main British army. This allowed and almost forced troop tactics to remain far more economical as each soldier was more valuable simply because there was less of them. As the number of troops was less, Canadian Troops were allowed to train harder and with more squad coordination as it required way less time to train troops on newly developed tactics. Also it should be said that Aurther Currie played a large part in Canadian success as he was unwilling to simply throw large amounts of men into MGs like his English contemporaries. Demanding proper troop organization and training for any upcoming attacks that would use shock troops.

  • @zach7805
    @zach7805 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Indy, I have just recently (past month) watched a whole bunch of your videos and I truly enjoy them. My question is, during and after the Christmas truce of 1915 and seeing their enemy, laugh with them, sing with them, believe the same god, why would they go back to killing them. Even after seeing that they are just like them, human.

  • @nicholasdigaetano
    @nicholasdigaetano 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    High guys I have a question for out of the trenches. What was the first marine corps reserve unit deployed to Europe? Keep up the good work.

  • @ekmalsukarno2302
    @ekmalsukarno2302 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait for your video specials on Indochina and French colonial Africa.

  • @nicholasgietz6766
    @nicholasgietz6766 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys i have a question for out of the trenches how was retreating done in trench warfare was it as simple at running to the next trench or was it like going over the the back of the trenches
    Love the show keep up the great work

  • @Kickbox72
    @Kickbox72 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you believe the Russian Revolution was a popular uprising, coup d’état, or a mixture of the two and do you believe there was anything Nicholas II could have done to prevent the revolution in 1917 or would be attempting to prevent the inevitable given his previous mistakes and awful public image at this time. Thanks for any response, love the show and all the work Indy and co put into it. Keep up the fantastic work!

    • @Kickbox72
      @Kickbox72 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve Kaczynski I agree, either option would have provoked a severe reaction, which is why I believe his days were numbered no matter the outcome. Pulling out of the war may have given him more time, but would probably have brought back memories of their embarrassing defeat to Japan in 1905.

  • @raymondgill9796
    @raymondgill9796 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the chanel. Could you ask your neighbour to st,.op practicing the guitar while you are recording.

  • @macncheese_SNAKEWAY
    @macncheese_SNAKEWAY 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *Indiana Neidel*

  • @podemosurss8316
    @podemosurss8316 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:33 They should have given the command of the Austro-Hungarian forces in Caporetto to general Ned Stark, then.

  • @spanigo_9703
    @spanigo_9703 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This could be an out of the trenches question
    "Hello indy and crew,
    I was wondering what if any, was the availability of religious services on the western front.Thank you so much for the amazing work you(indy&crew) are doing. I really hope you continue post 1918.

    • @jakejackson4177
      @jakejackson4177 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am sure Indy can probably give a better answer than myself and am sorry if I am spoiling the fun of it, but in the British Army at the very least, most battalions at some point or another when they were being rotated out of the trenches would be made to attend a church parade where they would be given a service by a military chaplain, and military chaplains were on hand in many cases just behind the lines and even in the trenches to administer to the spiritual needs of the men and comfort the dying and even writing letters for the wounded when they were not able too.

  • @roberthoward9500
    @roberthoward9500 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really hope TGW does a profile on John Monash as he seemed to be a great example of a properly modern WW1 General.

  • @PtolemyJones
    @PtolemyJones 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    More than moving down into Italy, I think the bigger concern had to be crossing the width of Northern Italy and opening a second front in France... if the troops shipped to that front were putting pressure on France, rather than trying to occupy Italy, it seems like they might have been worth rerouting...