First World War - Massiges Trenches part 2
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- First World War trenches filmed in June 2016 using a Phantom 3 drone.
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I watched this in conjunction with your walkthrough of the trenches. Really brings it home for me how intense the fighting must’ve been. It’s one thing to read about the war, but it’s another to see where it happened, and see where they’re still finding remains. It’s heartbreaking, but important. Thank you, again.
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Your films bring me much in the way of therapy. Thank you for all your dedication and hard work!
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A very good touch at 4:45 where you pan the camera beyond the recovered trenches and show the miles of farmland beyond.
It gives a real sense of how this 'little bit' was just a small part of the whole horror.
Very good video's sir !!!
Thank you for watching. In 1918 as far as you could see would have all looked the same - devastation.
Amazing! Massiges is on my "need to go see" list already, but I did not know there is so much to see. Thanks for sharing. Brilliant work 👍
Thank you for watching. I believe this is the best place on the Western Front to see what it was like. Most places the trenches are either shallow ditches or sanitised reconstructions.
Thank you for the poignant but amazing videos and the informaton. My MA dissertation is about the representations of death and dying in first world war poetry and soldiers diaries. I haven't been able to visit all the places I've come across in my research (I have been to Sanctuary Wood, Hill 60, Vimy Ridge and Flanders Field museum and Tyne Cot) so these videos have really helped to situate soldiers accounts and to also picture the conditions they describe. Thank you.
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Hello Steven, your videos are a wonderful insight to the battles of world war 1, as i have been unable to make the trip from Australia you have taken me there! Thankyou, as with many people i too have a grandfather who was involved in battles in France and your videos help me to understand what these men, from all sides, went through. Thankyou Steven, look forward to seeing all your videos.
Thank you for watching. This very day I have been to Fromelles where on the 19/20th July 1916 over 5,000 Australians were killed in pointless diversionary attack.
Quite recently they found a mass grave of over 300 Australian soldiers and created a new cemetery and a visitor centre. Hope to have some film on TH-cam sometime next week.
Just amazing!!! What more can be said about your work. The history that you bring back to today. Wonderful video I love the work you do. Please keep them coming Thanks you!
Thank you for watching. I am going to Hill 70 near Loos in December. Weather permitting, should get a good film.
Love these videos Steven. You do an excellent job!
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Well done Steve, this adds a whole new perspective to the conflict. Very moving and evocative. Thank you
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Just watched it again. Great job Steven. Terry&ThePirates
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Great video. My grandfather fought there in the 23eme RIC (régiment d'infanterie coloniale). He had 20 on the september 24th. On the 25th the assault took place and he was shot by a German. He told my father years later that he saw the man aiming at him. He said that it was the german way to wish a happy christmas.
Thank you for watching and sharing your GF’s story.
Absolutely enjoying your work. I am disabled and could never see these things. Drones are amazing for this kind of filming. Thank you...
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Excellente vidéo qui met en évidence cette tragédie de la guerre 14-18. Qu'elle puisse être classée comme "passeur de mémoire" aux jeunes générations.
Merci. Jean-Jacques Maisans
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Amazing! Pretty much been everywhere on the old Western Front, but never been to Main de Massiges - always wanted to go - and always wondered what there actually was to see ... the ground level pictures I saw before didn't do any justice to the scale of this restored/preserved piece of frontline - but now I got a good idea.
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WOW! I can't believe people fought like this. I've read about the hardships. But to see these videos really brings it into perspective. I'd rather have been in WW2 than WW1. Your videos are absolutely eye opening.
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Great post again Steven, the times I have been to Verdun , not realising Messiges is only 40 miles down the road, will be visiting this next year .
Thank you for watching. I have visited most of the Western Front and I believe this is the place to see.
The anomalies in the film are real, this area of the sept 1915 battle is a huge cemetery, where up to this day, men are excavated from graves in trenches that are exumed. You will not hear birds in the middle, only on the side of this museum. I was there in 2022, it is more dug out, with also tunnels underneath. The eerie feeling of dead men is still present. When one goes there, be respectfull to those who still rest here.
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I love WW1 history had a stressful day at work my x is pregnant with my kid 🙃 my electric bill is threw the roof and this found me. Thanks for calming me down sir.
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I really enjoy this video, it seems like it would be an very great experience to go and visit
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Great video again steve, fascinating.... im going to beaumont hamel and Redan Ridge in a couple of months could you advise where i might obtain a july 1916 Trench map.
Thank you for watching. Email me on steven@s-upton.com I will send you the closest I have to Jul. 16.
I can't stop watching your videos tonight
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Excellent set of videos on this subject. Very sobering when realizing how many hundreds of kilometers the trenches ran on for, and how many times they were moved just for gains of a few tens or hundred meters in some areas. I would love to be able to view the trench lines from the air, then be able to click on a ground view in particular spots; of course, that is probably beyond the reach for most TH-camrs and gets into the realm of Google Maps :)
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I filmed the Western Front in 360 4K VR last year. At this site, I found live rounds, grenades (French and German) as well as fingers and ribs. These were found during the French archaeological digs here and hidden away until they could be formerly recovered. I've been tempted to film the battlefield sites from the air but the French laws are quite strict, so I haven't - yet. when you are on your own on that site, it is an amazing feeling.
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Such a verdant place, well except for the trench area. I have been binge watching your videos.
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Another awesome video. All your videos are a perfect companion to Peter King's great documentary "They Shall Not Grow Old", for anyone seriously interested in the history of WWI on the Western Front.
What Peter has done to those old films is amazing. A must see for anyone interested in the Great War.
GREAT JOB! I was 777th like... and you'll get many more.
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Amazing footage.
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This is worthy of an Emmy
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Steven,as I'm very interested in everything concerning the first world war, I like your videos a lot. Don't forget (and this also for those who would like tho make pictures over there) That it is strictly forbidden to use drones in this area. It is part of the larger military camp of Suippes.
Last time I visited those restored trenches, rainy weather and fog, and looking towards hill 197, there was an exercise with machine guns in the camp. goose bumps.... Being very small in these trenches, with the sound of rattling machine guns...They sometimes practice with artillery....
Thanks for your productions,
Peter
Flanders
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Hello Steven, Congratulations....! Shimmying or no Shimmying, your "From the air" drone filmed presentations are of great historic value, another unique view of the horrors of senseless loss and destruction. History has given us a "worm's eye view", but this new dimension allows for the real scale to be appreciated. Thank you for your sensitivity of production, which I am quite sure is much appreciated by all.
(Personal question) What are the rules of using a drone? Have you experienced any difficulties? Get back to me please.
Thank you for watching, and your comments. As yet not aware of any rules and had no one stop me or even pay any interest.
Thanks, and you've done a wonderful job.
Rules in Belgium are max altitude is 10 meters and on private ground with agreement of the owner.
Everywhere else, it’s illegal unless you’ve got the license.
In France, I’ve got no idea...
Another fantastic video Steven, this one actually brought tears to my eyes. The drone view plus the music really hits home in conveying the unconscionable slaughter of perhaps the most unnecessary and pointless war ever, even though as far as I know I had no ancestors who fought in it. But then again if this war hadn't been fought I wouldn't even exist, since my mother's grandparents would never have emigrated to the USA if this war hadn't happened. They were ethnic Germans living in the Alsace region, and were evicted from their homes after Alsace became part of France after the war. I wish I knew more of the family history besides that.
Thank you for watching. Yes, it’s a sad episode in human history.
They werent expulsed. They were proposed french citizenship, which they refused.
@@pierren___ nonsense.
@@SSHitMan truth hurts
The drone footage is brilliant very interesting Cheer's paul
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Molto bello. Grazie per la condivisione.
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Amazing presentation! Keep up the great work.
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Im a ww2 guying starting to branch out to ww1...and this is some terrifying shit to see and imagine
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The shaking footage might be from one of the drones rotors getting into a vortex ring state. Not impossible at very low speeds and especially while hovering. The drone has 3 other rotors though, so it will naturally recover, thus the effect isn't catastrophic like in a full sized helicopter.
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Fantastic footage
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Good job! Very interesting.
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lovely images. I've noticed that your website link doesn't work?
Thank you for watching. I have not been able to find the link to test it. Try www.sdubooks.com
Part of me wishes we could see this after a lidar scan....so beautiful girl and pastoral when we know actually transpired in those trenches. Beautifully captured as always.
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Would Scapa Flow benefit from this aerial treatment? Great work! Thank you!
Thank you for watching. Scapa Flow may very well be a good place to film. However, I will leave that to someone else as my main interest is the Western Front.
The temporary shimmering of the video is probably caused by the drone entering the direct path of a commercial microwave communication link.
Thank you. No one else has suggested that.
Thank you for another very informative film. It does make me wonder how many brave young souls found their final resting place near where they fell, and how many of them must still lie under those tranquil green fields, their names recorded as "missing." As you rightly say, we will remember them.
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How do they keep this site from being overgrown by grass and bushes ?
Very nice video by the way.
Thank you for watching. Sorry I do not know the answer to your question. I was there as recently as June 2023 and more has been excavated.
Cheeky subscribe. This is quality
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At first I thought those were primary and secondary trench lines from the same army. But I think they are opposing lines that close in. Close enough to hear the other side's personnel, and probably even within grenade range. I don't see how any soldier could relax for a second.
Thank you for watching. I have been to places where the opposing trenches were even closer! Then there were places where they were up to a mile apart.
In some places , the primary trench lines were very close ; at "La butte de Vauquois" the guide told us that a French soldier , holding his gun could touch with his bayonet the bayonet at the end of the german soldier's gun...
I've just watched a presentation, in a Western Front Association on-line series, on "Hidden places on French battlefields" - it's available on the WFA FaceBook page. In that, Mike St Maur Sheil states that the Massige trenches were created by a local farmer as a tourist attraction. Any comments Steve?
I am not aware of that claim. We do know that the front line was here and that the craters were marked on contemporary maps. Those are well documented facts. They also found several bodies whilst excavating the trenches, unless that is also a hoax . If this was created as a tourist attraction it has not worked as I have been there several times and never seen another person. There is no money involved and nothing is for sale, no shops nearby either. I am not an expert but believe they are genuine.
Can someone with knowledge on the subject describe the soil conditions in the immediate vicinity of the trenches? The surrounding countryside looks so verdant but the disturbed soil in and around the trenches looks very poor and bereft of organics.
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Are the trenches untouched or are they renovated so people can see what they looked like during the war? It might be a stupid question but I'm not from France and I'm not an expert. Thank you
Thank you for watching. They have been restored over recent years.
My grandfather Jervy Johnson married to Marie Johnson who had a brother ne Ben Platt fought in the trenches and was hit by mustard gas he also help build our lakes here in South Carolina and the Santee Dam near Monks Corner
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Remember, remember , so we don't make the same mistake again !
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As far as my first thoughts about the video image flutter, I figured the vast quantity of souls lost on that ground, apparently still has a force that affects the operation of the camera.
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Thanks i whil go to there ,,wath is the name of the museum or place
Thank you for watching. The nearest village is Massiges. It is east of Reims and west of Verdun. In the video there is a map showing its location.
Mr. Upton is this trench system open to the public or is it on Private property?
Completely open. I have been there several times and never seen another person.
Will drive there very soon
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There's a lack of books and information about anything not UK in WW1 it seems for some reason.
I am sure you are right. There are some very good French books; but I do not speak or read french! Try Neath Verdun, August-October, 1914 by Maurice Genevoix it is available in English. He also wrote a very good book on his experiences in the opening weeks of the war in 1914, again can be found in english.
I read a book once.
Check out the channel "The great war" here on youtube. Highly recomendable! They talk about ww1 week for week exactly 100 years later. And also have loads of extras.
Are you American or a Commonwealth citizen? If you are Commonwealth there are plenty of books about the ANZACS and Canadians, from the UK and Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. As far as the US goes, that is US historians fault for ignoring their own history. Most Americans, historians included, see WWI as a footnote and focus all their attention on the Civil War and WWII.
@@StevenUpton14-18 I have come across some WW1 documentaries filmed from the German side recently, narrated in German as well, regardless of that the footage was very good and stuff I'd never seen before.
How do they keep the trenches from filling in over time? Is the brush continuously removed?
They require continuous maintenance.
@@StevenUpton14-18 Thank you. I thought they might and they do an excellent job.
@@michaels4193 I believe that it is all done by volunteers from a local society.
How ironic that those fields now give life to crops every yr.
Thank you for watching. Nature is great at recovering if we give it the chance.
heat shimmer? was it a snow day?
Thank you for watching. There was no snow when this was filmed. The white appearance is due to it being chalky ground.
You are wrigh you must show respect it is one off the biggest graves in the world heroes. All of them paul
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Jersey Johnson 2 sons John Q. JOHNSON AND COEY Johnson served in WW11
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Great drone work and video! Really appreciate your channel and your coverage. It's really appalling the amount of carnage and death that these political leaders of that time allowed to continue for 4 years. It's sickening and shocking! I'll probably never get to these the battle grounds but sure appreciate all your footage. Thank you!
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why no greens on trenches? thats of using gas ?
Thank you for watching. This area has only in recent years been excavated to reveal the trenches.
11-11-2018. Lest we forget
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All quite on the western front has brought me here
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AMAZING CONTENT @@StevenUpton14-18
Just overwhelming it makes you realise just how dreadful it must have been
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I can see Paul Bäumer and Stanislaus Katczinsky’s world more clearly.
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The juxtaposition of a modern day FPV drone flying over and through WW1 trenches that are a hundred years old and in pristine state is both tragic and poignant.
Thank you for watching. Walking the trenches is okay, but seeing them from the air at fairly low altitude is so much better in helping you to understand this tragic part of our history.
Awesomost
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@@StevenUpton14-18 Mon plaisir mon amie
The German army thru the kitchen sink at them but the French army didn’t break.
Thank you for watching. The French were very determined not to give ground, sometimes at great cost.
They called it the war to end all wars. Yea right, didn’t learn a thing did we?
Twenty years later WWll and rolled over the WWl battlegrounds
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You should walk there and record
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Metal detector heaven
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the shimmering is just a a mass gathering of all the ghosts of the dead. nothing to worry about
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So man lives for what? barely 100m in either direction...
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Just thinking the whole area looked like that .... what a horrible place to send a teenager in uniform
From the north sea all the way to the Swiss border.
A bit hard to watch.
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Very sobering and very beautifully presented. The music sounds very similar to Jean Michel Jarre, but I am guessing it isn't. If you could tell who it is by, I would be grateful.
Thank you for watching. I made this film so long ago I cannot remember who composed the music. It was a royalty free download from TH-cam.
It’s sad we only have tiny pieces left cause it’s been covered in farm fields They should have kept the scars across Europe maintained
maybe then people wouldn’t be so gun Ho for war today
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The Germans did not use mines that much? How come? or did they? I don´t hear much about that, just counter-tunneling..?
Thank you for watching. The Germans did use mines. I have no idea of numbers, so cannot compare. But I do have over 800 trench maps of just the British sector and there are mine craters everywhere. The main difference in each sides attitude was that the Germans were predominately in a defensive posture whilst the French and British were on the offensive. Mining was a tactic that would be used mostly to attack and capture a position and to dominate no-mans-land. There was also counter-mining done by all sides to stop the opposing army from mining under your position.
@@StevenUpton14-18 Makes sense, I guess. Saving that labourous effort for the Germans. Can´t be a small effort doing all that work.
That Australian movie about mining companies - worth a watch?