Metal in the Freon? Pistons Coming Apart Pontiac Firebird!
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- Part 2 Reassembly: Metal in the System! Grenaded Compressor! Pontiac Firebird 3.8
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I can’t thank Ray, his wife, and his staff enough for taking good care of my car! What a fantastic experience. Being able to trust a mechanic and have faith they have the knowledge is priceless. Also the great comments relating to my made me smile!!! My two girls are fighting over who will get it when I’m gone!!! Lol
A common problem for those of use with classic cars, especially ones as nice as yours.
Watch your back in case they want it sooner!
Have you had it since new?? Beautiful car, well kept…
You've taken care of the old girl. Looks like new under the hood. Ray don't play! He calls it like he sees it and does his best to take care of his customers. Thanks for the great videos Ray!
It’s clearly a well loved car. Not a bit of rust on her
Thank you Ray for disassembling the Compressor - interesting to see the innards and how they work.
Me too.
Schooling his subscribers
Yup first time seeing that
Nice educational video 👍
Similar to a pressure washer pump.
That coach shot was the best.lmao
Your show is sooo much better than the dealership show.. 100% better
Can't argue that.
Nice clean 20+ year old Firebird. Cudos to the owner for taking such good care of it. Thank you for the compressor autopsy, that was very interesting. Looking forward to tomorrow's posting as always.
@misterrichardc Nah it just reached end of a very long life...especially if the car spent it's entire life in Florida. It's never seen salt that's for sure.
@@gregoryking9348 Besides all the saltwater in the ocean surrounding :p
Obviously I kid, even if you lived closer to the coast and did most your driving near the coast it wouldnt be comparable to the road salts here.
😅 26:29
Gloves!!!
Your wife will appreciate it more than you can imagine.
16:51 😅
hello everybody from Australia
Nice work Ray…I like how clean the customer keeps his engine bay.
And Ray blows AC oil all over it…
Troy: fine line between insanity and happiness ! 😜
I agree with your assessment on the 3800 which is probably why GM stopped making it. It was ruining their reputation for crappy cars.
This engine compartment is really clean for a vehicle of this vintage
Owner for sure appreciates that vehicle. Awesome to see.
I like this car. First time i see one... beeing from the other side of the world 🙃
Welcome to the party! Where are you located?
Its basically a chevy camaro 😁 the firebird has always been a favorite of mine. I owned/crashed a couple of them myself
One look at the Firebird, you know that it is loved, and it will get any repairs that it needs.
Also I am surprised that Ray didn't pick the car up a few inches with the lift so he didn't have to bend over so much.
That may have made it more difficult to reach the back of the pump.
I'm sure that Ray wouldn't even consider stressing the integrity of such a fine automobile!
That's a trick I learned long ago to save strain on my lower back with lower cars!
Another very good video. I like the autopsies. Always interesting to see how these components are assembled, how they work and what goes wrong.
Saw the metal chips but not where they broke off from. What actually failed & what was the cause of failure?
Probably a bearing. But since it looked like it was brass, it was probably. Either a race. Or a shim. Most likely a bushing.
@@RayTuttle You didn,t even look ! Thats why we was watchen fer. And u didn
@@boggy7665 must have been a piece that totally broke away. I think it was part of the swash plate
I can absolutely confirm 3800 series 2's will run with a hole in the block. Was racing one once, and apparently shot a rod through the block, and through the power steering hoses and battery cables (the battery had been relocated into the cab and the cables ran through the firewall near the failure) I was completely unaware how bad the problem was, and was going to be perfectly happy finishing the lap and pitting in normally - the only thing that stopped me was the fire that resulted from the battery shorting out amidst aerosolized power steering fluid.
Aye man that comment about that person liking the older videos when you were at the other shop cause of the drama ...here's my 2 thoughts yoh forget the drama your doing way better for yourself and you and Troy work good together at least from what I cam tell in the videos but just mad respect for you amd your hustle and your work relationship with Troy and the wife unit 💯 everyday viewer so I respect the grind less drama and more about the Cars good job man
In addition to giving us a guided tour through the compressor, just look at all the left over bolts that you can put in your amazing bolt collection. 😮
I hope you will be cleaning the radiator of the bugs that way air will flow better over the condenser coil and also help cool the radiator😊
Exactly what I was going to comment.
Love bug season begins in a month or two.
@@spaceflight1019 well at least it'll be clean for a couple months. 😆 🤣 😂
I love watching your videos. I’m a coroner in southern Idaho and have been in classes week talking about dying and autopsies. Listening to you talking about things dying and doing autopsies is hilarious. We work on different things but talk the same talk. Keep up the great work
Ray don't give up your day job. We would miss your good humor.
The "Clickage Master" excels once again! 🚨🏆 Superb video.
As you were going through listing of all of the parts to replace, I was waiting for you to come back and say “customer declined all repairs” - having a flashback to your old shop! This speaks to your comments about no drama with your customers. If you were up in New Hampshire, I would take my diesel to you any day and let you figure it out as you go, since you figure out things better then any of the guys who are supposed to already know what they are doing!!
the Florida heat forces the owner fork out $1000 or no driving.
Late, but I just gotta say I have an irrational lust for those particular bodied Pontiac Firebirds/Trans Ams/Firehawks. They are just so good looking.
Nice Pontiac. Beautiful shape.
Many years ago, my mechanic rebuilt my compressor instead of replacing it. Replaced all the 'O' rings. Haven't had a bit of problems since.
Thanks for showing us the internals of the compressor. Very interesting. Doing post mortems on dead equipment is one of my favorite parts of your videos. And thanks for the brake clear ... I was having withdrawal symptoms.
TH-cam is awesome. Without it, I never would've heard of you.
The GM 3.8 liter from Ponticrack is no joke! With proper maintenance, they'll outlast the vehicle itself every single time, and will continue running until the heat death of the universe...
Had one pushing 330k miles and it still would go if I put another head on it
I had a 1999 Chevy S10 with the 4.3 Liter V6 that was borderline bulletproof. Does that one have similar DNA to the one in this Firebird?
Yep, I owned a 2004 Chevy LS Impala-18 years old with 3.8 liter engine. It was T-Boned on Parking lot and Totaled, everything on this car worked good and was still original except Battery--water pump, alternator, Air Cond. Comp.- these components never failed--Best car that I have ever owned, With Advice from YT video's wife bought a 2022 Lexus after Retiring from Walmart-32 years...
@@randybeard6040 I'm actually surprised someone would work at Walmart for 32 years
@@randybeard6040 I'm actually surprised someone would work at Walmart for 32 years
My brother has a Pontiac with the 3800. It ran up nearly 500K as a daily driver before he retired.
I think you lucked out in being a V6
I can only imagine how tight it would have been with a bigger engine
My Bird is a 3.4L V6 and it is a PITA just to change the spark plugs😲 I can imagine what the LS1 is like.
This is the only car automotive chanel I watch, found it, and stuck with it since the Dood lee doo days😂
I like your wit Ray, and the way you explain things,that's why I watch, I don't repair cars, I do motorcycles 😅
Great chanel 🇦🇺. 🇦🇺.
Thanks for the memories Ray. I was an automotive HVAC specialist for GM, Toyota, Honda and Porsche/Audi for 15 years before I opened my own shop where I specialized in installing heat and A/C systems in classic and custom cars. Even did a few tour buses for some well known performers as well as stuff like a front and rear system in a1939 Cadillac limousine with 1975 500 cu. in. Caddy engine and front frame clip and a 1940 Chrysler Town limo with a Nova front frame clip with rear steer. Custom built 1968 Hemi Roadrunner we built special order and got the engine from Don Garlits and had it de-tuned to 850 HP.and 1950 dropped, chopped and channeled 1950 Merc, with a 2015 LT 6.2 'vette drivetrain and entire computer system, even several double sleeper semi tractors. 1929 ford 5 window coupe, and god only knows how many everyday grocery getters.
Watching you bust knuckles getting into impossible places and repairing some of the poorly designed late model systems is like a trip down memory lane. The wife always asks me why I binge on your videos, "Wasn't 55 years of that enough for you?" she asks. "I'm 73 years old and actually it wasn't enough. I'd still be at it if my poor old broke dick carcass could do it. But back in the bad old days if we were really lucky, we had maybe one lift and did most everything on our knees or on a creeper. After about 30 years it took it's toll on the back and knees and shoulders. Which is one of the reasons I went into A/C work. For some reason, guys in my generation always treated A/C systems, electronics and automatic transmissions like there was some mystical black magic inside and not for many wrench twisters to screw with. So I did transmissions for years until my back was shot and moved on to HVAC and I still mess with electronics and diagnostics as long as I can fine some assistants to climb around like a monkey with test leads and meters. I'm 6'2" and I simply do not fit into these late model speck-mobiles that you don't get into. You have to put them on like a shirt or a pair of shoes. My hats off to you sir for dealing with things realistically and logically . Both you and your wife unit and Eric and Mrs. O have replaced everything else I watched since I retired a,d I truly believe I would go totally crazy if you guys quit doing your excellent videos. thank you, Thank You , THANK YOU for helping me retain what's left of my faith in mankind.
It's a great day with a Rainman Ray video right away in the morning! 👧
That's a real nice looking Firebird! Willing to bet the compressor was on the way out and it started to underperform. Then someone added some more refrigerant, sealing it's fate.
I loved the autopsy! Thank you for including that!
I had a '77 3.8 in a Firebird before GM gave them an even firing crankshaft. The uneven vibrations knocked the hell out of the timing chain and sprockets. It was going on the 3rd timing set when I gave it away at a little over 100K miles. Thanks for the videos.
I feel your pain. I am also in FL and the temperature is super high with high humidity. No doubt a lot of A/C work going on for sure.
Thank you Ray for also being fair and putting your customers first. Charging the system to make sure a compressor was needed even when you were 99% sure it was, but wanted to make sure you were not charging the client for anything not needed. That is what makes you a great person! Hope your back feels better!
Also, that was complete awesomeness seeing the internals of that compressor! Thank you for that!!!
Beautiful car. I just sold my 98 ls1 convertible trans am with 139k original miles she was in excellent condition. I just didn't use her anymore. Was a sad day watching her roll off into the sunset.
I'm amazed that much metal got through the passages of the condenser. New versions of condensers have very tiny passages! Even if you flush you can't get all the metal out. Outstanding demonstration, Ray.
Thanks for taking the extra time and showing the inside of the compressor. Very interesting.
Well done owner with taking care of that firebird. I had a mint 98 same color that was sweet. Did a few basic mods and would get a little over 30mpg on the highway. Awesome car that I still miss today.
I feel your 4th-gen F-Body withdrawal pain, I miss my '97 WS6 T/A and '99 Formula too. Low mileage well-maintained/documented 4th-gens are seeing significant price jumps at the major auctions (e.g Barrett-Jackson) the past few years.
Glad to see you're letting the Young lad go. Can't wait for a ride in his Jeep
Hey Ray, looks like they take care of what they own. I used to love customers like that, it makes everything easy and a good day.
Love the FERRARI decals on the wheels! Awesome 😂
i had a Pontiac Bonneville with a gm3800 supercharged series 2 by the time i sold it it had over 600k on the clock and on its second trans. still ran great #1 bullet proof engine.
Great job as usual. I was stunned at how easily that old compressor just came out after unbolting.
It came out like a delivered baby.
You obviously never delivered a baby.... a lot of "wotk" involved 😂
You gave birth often 😂 @inCountry6970
@@jilbertbsnap, we had the same thought 😂😂😂
A buddy of mine had a GTP with the supercharged 3800 II . Gave it to his father at 402k miles. His father gave it a once over and tested the compression and it was still well within spec. The car was a GM though, so it had 3 transmissions in its life.
Florida man can’t wait for winter.
Ray, that is why you have small funnel so you don't spill stuff. You have had a really interesting week so far. Good work. Hang in there.
28:07 - Ray: "I don't like stinging pain."
🐝: "I'll be right over."
I have that very same Firebird in Red and a '97. It's all stock and runs and looks great with only 77k. Just had it out yesterday with the top down and a beautiful day here in IA. GREAT VIDEO RAY!!!!
@@Peter-nm1ps a '97 to a '02, Don't think so.
For its age, that's one clean Firebird!
Refilling the system to the correct amount and checking to see if the compressor had an issue, Was such an honest and honourable thing to do. If I lived anywhere near you, I'll take my car to you. What an honest mechanic.. good job Ray
Love those birds. I want a WS6!
I miss my bright red '97 WS6 Trans Am which I sold back in the day to buy a special order solid roof black sleeper '99 Formula (looked like a 6-cylinder to the uninitiated and to the California Highway Patrol too) which was lighter and faster than the T/A. Miss that black 4th-gen F-Body big time!
Thanks for taking the time to split open the compressor. That the first time I've see the internals.
The ferrari center caps on those wheels....lol. Also the green sludge coming out of that compresser looks like it would turn you into a ninja turtle.
Hey, thats it !! Troy's shop name is Sport..cause its on the side of his truck ! That's how we know !
“Vintage, 2002”…I feel old!
I am so impressed with Ray's natural mechanical ability. I know years of experience have gone into what we're watching but so many auto techs have 1 year 20 times rather than 20 years of experience/learning. Thanks for the content sir. I can't believe its free!
@ 2:19, Ray's number one Fan. And just an FYI for anyone new to Orifice tube, the line will have a "Dimple/crimp" that sets the depth it goes in the line. Ray might show it on the reinstall. Hey Ray are you getting extra on the core charge for the disassembly?? Made that easy on the rebuild!
Yeah, they give him an extra $0.50.
16:51 😅
Hey Ray, I loved it when you disassembled the AC compressor. Now I understand how it works, thanks to you.
Completely agree that the 3.8L V6 is one of GM's best engines. But you can never go wrong with a V8!
"Jeep people doing Jeep things." Is the Jeepest sentence I have ever heard
I can still remember the days where we sold more A/C clutches than compressors .
I like how you said SEND IT and you weren’t freaking kidding!! Lmao 25:10
Tool Manufacturers must love modern cars. Years ago, a set of Open Enders was all you needed.
I love that color on the Firebird. My favorite is the 2001-2002 Firebird TA WS6 with the manual transmission. Come on Powerball!!!
That color is called Navy Blue Metallic (28U), GM produced 890 non-convertible WS6 models in that color in 2001 and 868 in 2002 -- I don't know the breakdown of autos vs. 6-speeds though. They're fun cars, I miss my '97 WS6 T/A and '99 Formula big time.
LOL…That had to be hard for Lauren to act like she was mad, because I’m sure that’s not in her nature…she’s deserves an academy award for best 2 second short!
Compressor forensics thanks very interesting.. You heard it at startup but teardown proved it. Great job.
Those a/c pumps with those piston make a good gift for your gear head wife😁 brought her home 2 bouquets of pistons she was happy, a new hair tie hanger 👍👍 just got another the other day
I love those 3800 gm engines, and your absolutely right they'll run with a hole lol, I blew the one up in my 87 Buick I could see the crack in the side of it , lost all oil and still got me home lol.
Talking about that 3.8 I've got a 2004 Pontiac grand prix that has 289000 miles that still runs great but the transmission has decided to play out. So we bought it new and we're going to fix it. Love your channel Ray
Looks like the owner takes good care of his car.
You make all of this look so simple.
He popped that hood and said, "ooooooo!"
One of the prettiest cars that the US has produced, particularly that colour. Orfis ? orfis tube ?
Designed and engineered in USA, assembled in Canada. 😁
ooh, very sparkly!
I had an early 90's Olds 88 with the 3800 v6 it was a great car. I was traveling five states for a living and over 350K on the engine with out any major issues. I have always thought it was one of the best engines GM ever made!
That orfice tube came out surprisingly easy. That’s always nice.
Guten Morgen Ray. That was a crazy A/C system repair. Interesting what the compressor look like. Habt auch einen schönen Tag. 👍
Can't wait for next video.looking forward
Wish Ray was close so I could see my own car worked on!
That compressor was a ticking time bomb. That thing had one hell of a racket
Another learning video, and the side training for troy from jedi matter on how to use grinder.😮
I have a 2001 silver Firebird with t-tops and the 3800. I love this car. Mine is in great shape too. The guy I bought it from took great care of it. For some reason the car came with the performance suspension package and leather seats, which was usually only seen in the Trans Am and Formula models. My engine bay isn't as clean as I live on a dirt road, but I do maintain the car and have no issues with it at all. I'll keep this car for the rest of my life and my 13 year old has already laid claim to it.
Looks very like a water pressure pump. Great show, Ray. Power flush was definitely the way to go 👍
Ive disassembled a hydraulic pump before, looked alot like this, which is essentially what a ac compressor is
Fascinating to see the workings of that compressor. A bit like the barrel engine that powers some old torpedoes. Cheers Ray!
The hydrostatic transmissions on lawn mowers work much the same way.
Es como todo motor y/o bomba hidráulicos, algunas generan presión y los otros la reciben para crear movimiento mecánico.
En los aviones también se utilizan, unos como bombas (algunas de acodado fijo y otros de acodado variable) pero también como motores hidráulicos para accionar mecanismos diversos. Los motores son de acodado fijo (en ángulo permanente)
Los motores en máquinas viales y pesadas también utilizan la presión hidráulica, generado generalmente por bombas de pistones múltiples, para accionar y así mover orugas, impulsando sus ruedas dentadas, con reducciones epicicloidales de por medio para aumentar el par.
Es un Sistema muy seguro, potente y preciso. Unas de las desventajas es su complejidad y su trabajo a muy altas presiones hidráulicas, que pueden deteriorar los diversos componentes, además de las pérdidas inevitables por roturas, vibraciones, "golpes de ariete", niples, acoples, sellos y juntas, o tubos rígidos y/o mangueras flexibles.
I audibly exclaimed "Jesus christ!" when you pulled that oriface out! Good call on going for the whole system.
"Troy grinding on his Jeep back there" paints a different picture than Ray may have intended... or does it? 😂
that is the first time I have seen a catastrophic failure like that, metal fragments all over!
plugging everything up! Along with the” exploded view “ of the compressor . I have not seen one
taken apart to see the components and how it pumps! multiple pistons arrangement. nice video
you have your self a great cool day!
I love the 3.8. I have had several that never gave me problems. I don't understand why GM stopped making them.
Mopar's slant 6 engine was bulletproof as well. Time moves on.
@@TheJcrandazzo I had a couple of those too. They sounded odd.
Who needs cold air in Florida 😂
Man, i wish i had that much room in my engine bays!
long time since disassembled a compressor, thanks for the memories, good job, good money....
love the old F-Bodies. Much is the same between the V6 and V8
Nice car, nice to see a 4th gen being taken care of
I love how you refer to the top of your tool box/chest/cabinet as your "desk". 🤪
Great vid Ray and you aren't kidding the 3800 is the best GM motor produced.
Also him cutting those clean jeep fenders HURTS
Hats off to the owner for taking such good care of this Firebird. I used to flush R-12 systems with R-11. This is before the government tyranny.