A 383 STROKER Will Be Replacing The JUNK 327 Small Block
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A couple of weeks back we showed you a 327 engine that our customer brought us for a rebuild... and unfortunately it was in pretty sad condition.
• The last shop did NOT ...
That 327 may have seen its final days, but the cleaning guy has a plan to put together a 383 to make some reliable power! This is the start of that series!
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JIM, YOU HAVE BEEN REBUILDING ENGINE OVER THE YEARS AND OBVIOUSLY HAVE DONE COUNTLESS ENGINE REBUILDS. THE QUESTION HERE IS. OF THE BIG 3 FORD, GM AND CHRYSLER. WHICH BLOCKS AND THE ENGINE IN GENERAL WERE THE MOST ACCURATE IN THEIR FACTORY MACHINING. THE REASON I AM ASKING THIS QUESTION IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT CARROL SHELBY IN THE BEGINING OF BUILDING HIS 289ci COBRAS/SHELBY'S. HE WOULD BREAK DOWN THE HI-PO 289 ENGINES AND CHECK THE MACHINING. IT WAS SO PRECISE AND ACCURATE THAT HE STOPPED CHECKING THE FACTORY ENGINES. HE LEFT THEM AS THEY CAME FROM THE FACTORY.
87 didn't come with TBI only 88 and up did also 87 we're still considered a square body so your noy 87 it 88 model model year just like mine
Think title says 89 lol. Idk where he got 87 🤣
I have one of these motors for sale!!!! Nj
@@JAMSIONLINE Nope but any caes we make all error
Just an FYI… We love engine tear down videos too. Every piece tells a story and we like stories… That’s why we sit and watch and advise while y’all do all the hard work.
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Goal is to do builds from teardown to startup in series of videos. Just happens often the customer has already torn them down!
@@JAMSIONLINEDude, The cleaning guy tore that engine down
The tear down and explanation of the machining is definitely I enjoy from this channel.
For shits and giggles, why wouldn't you not put an indicator on the block just to check for flatness, instead of a level. Also I thought he started with .040 thou. On the first side. Ronnie.
@@JAMSIONLINE I got a engine that needs a tear down and rebuild. How do I get in contact with you?
You know as much as an engine expands and contracts it is amazing that just a few thousands can clean everything up. Your dad is a gem...
Cleaning guy has access to the camera equipment? He sure is coming along nicely.
Just need to get him a good microphone to use now when I’m gone haha
My philosophy is...
Pressure wash it first before working on it !😉🇺🇸
Wow! Really? Thought he was a Dr. or somethin',
Retired toolmaker/moldmaker here, and car enthusiast. Absolutely love all your videos! So nice that block cleaned up at .030 over!
That your Dad, sorry, the cleaning guy, was exited enough about a customer engine, to spend a weekend pulling a donor, speaks so much about your business. You are a legend. And your cleaning guy is clearly capable of creating them .
Bravo. ❤
Glad you had that old truck. Those blocks are getting hard to find.
Funny how there were just millions of the 5.7s all over. And now they are going by the way side because of the Ls. Just like the 5.7 did with the older engines.
I was kinda thinkin that old truck needed that engine
Those blocks seem to be plentiful imo. The 327 specific castings are hard to find, but the 010 two piece rms and all the 1 piece rms blocks are still everywhere, at least in my area.
I'd like to hear the engine running once you have finished building it.
Love the details and discussions. Jim is amazing ... he's obviously seen (and done) A LOT yet remains very humble! We know shooting a video adds considerable time to any task when trying to run a small business so THANK YOU for sharing with us!!!
It's great to see your dad being so calm about things. there is really no need for drama for every little thing.
I agree 100%,we're all ADULTS,and I turn so many videos off because of the childish drama, just can't tolerate it.
What I like so much about this channel is your plain English descriptions of what you’re doing and why. Thank you, men.
It’s impressive how clean you guys keep your shop 👍
They have a full time cleaning guy.
@@sjv6598 Who has instilled his good practices in his son. A clean shop is a professional shop.
As an old gearhead I love watching your channel. Great content and you have a fantastic father & son relationship.
I'm a CNC machinist from Europe. Your medieval measurement units really messes with my head. I'm sitting with a calculator and converting every measurement you're talking about =D
Love your videos!
When i had to make euro parts you just have to memorize the conversions. It's not a big deal as long as the conversions and results are correct.
Most of stamping dies I built in last 10 years before retirement were Metric@@realblakrawb
But when it gets to small measurements, they change to thousands..
which is the Metric system. Why not us 1/ 983 " guys?
@@patverum9051thousandths of an INCH.
Nothing metric about it.
I have nothing but full on respect for not just your skills, but that you know the limitations of your machines and how to work within them and how to clearly explain what you're doing and why and how.
I’m loving this 383 engine build with all the details explained. This is something rarely seen anymore because people usually now buy crate engines but building one from scratch is nice to see the way I would remember doing this. Looking forward to seeing the next video.
I love your dad and how excited he was for the 1M views. Just made my day.
I love a good 383 stroker. I think I've build a dozen or so. We (my friends and I) even figured out how to get them to reliably red line to 10k+ RPM. This took a great deal of work, but ran perfect for years on pump gas.
Cleaning guy Jim has forgotten more about engines and machining than most ever know. I love to see a master at work. I also like the dynamic between you both. Keep up the excellent work of saving iron to work another day!!
As someone who has worked on motors for a long time it sure is pretty cool to see how you guys so what you do, you guys are super smart the measurements everything is so entertaining, I can’t wait to see this engine finished.
The care, commitment and precision ya'll bring to this craft is astounding.
Bravo!
So glad you guys are showing the entire process on this. It’s very exciting. Keep it up guys.
I am new to your channel. Although I have been a mechanic for 45+ years, I am still interested in how to line bore and knowing whats-what in engine building. Anything that you can show will be awesome. Thank you.
I used to work in a machine shop.. I loved align honing the mains.. very satisfying. I know it makes a difference to torque on the oil pump when doing so.. We used to have a fixture plate that we could center up the bores on, so they were in spec.. or you could offset a hair to unshroud the intake valve. But taking off just a little like you are, I can see it’s best to center it so it isn’t an interrupted cut..
Been a backyard builder most of my life, but never really got to see the machining as I was blessed to have a real good shop locally. Nice to see super experienced machinists at work firsthand. Keep up the great videos, I am 60 and still learning from watching you guys work. Thank you
As an amateur machinist working with nothing but a small lathe, it is really neat seeing what professionals do with made for purpose equipment, looking forward to the next one.
I worked at an automotive machine shop that specialized in “race” engines when I was out of high school, I learned a TON about how the machining process worked, I was just a clean up guy, tore the engine down and thermal cleaned it and magna-fluxed. But still what a great job that was, these videos bring back great memories
Thanks for the effort and time guys. Great fun to watch.
Thanks for watching!
@@JAMSIONLINE I'm looking forward to seeing what rods you use (cap screw ?) how you mock up and clearance the motor and which balancing path you take as one piece rear main seal motors can be all internal (which means using aftermarket neutral flywheel or modded factory piece) or internal/external depending with crank you're using .....
Guys this is fabulous stuff to watch. I'm a cabinet maker but have always wanted to be able to do a full engine rebuild - the precision you work to is superb and your mastery of the subject amazing. I hope we get to see the whole process. Love your videos
I don’t know whether I mentioned this on one of your TH-cam videos before but the following is a fact. I’m a pretty old guy now and I was a Chevrolet partsman in the beginning of my career at auto dealers. It is a business that I really loved and excelled at. I moved on to other things in my life and that means I started my own business 50 years ago. However the reason for this bit of comment is although it is hard to believe, there was a time when our parts department could sell a bare block with factory cam bearings in it for $100, it was a 327 two bolt. At the dealership where I work we stocked six of those.
I'd like to see how you clearance for connecting rods when making 383. Awesome stuff
Besides the machine work I would really like to see the complete reassembly and installation of this engine with all the modifications that will be done to it.
As you guys build it could you discuss key steps(tricks) that us hobby engine builders may not know. Thanks for the videos.
Its awesome to see SBC get some love. When I turned 19 in 2000 My cousin ( Father was Gm Mechanic) Helped me build a .030 350 with 461 Cylinder Head , a roller cam in the .465/.465 range shorty headers, 700r4 3.08 gears 2400 stall dual plane intake and a 650 cfm Edelbrock and Install it in my 89 Camaro I had the car dynoed in 2004 here in Florida it made 279whp@ 5400 / 338wtq @4300. Car ran a 13-13.2 @106 mph. It wasn't the fastest but it was one of the greatest burnout cars ever. The engine out lasted 3 700r4 that were built. hahaha
Shout out to all the wives that help us keep moving forward!!!
I work on cylinder heads at an engine shop in arkansas and I just want to see the whole process, especially with small block chevy motors like this. Love the work yall do
I love watching you two, this is a very special channel I've stumbled across. Both of you are very humble yet supremely skilled and talented. And i love that you guys aren't afraid to talk like "normal people" instead of the usual loud bombastic YT garbage. Well done, keep it up!
when i got in to cars back in middle school, i believed slap a turbo and some nice wheels and it will go fast. as the years go by finding channels like yours, makes me admire the car culture more knowing how intricate it is to build an engine.
The cleaning guy is sure bucking for a promotion. I think he deserves to be made Chief Cleaning Tech, Grade 1.2.
I've been contemplating a jeep 4.0 to 4.6 stroker build for a while, watching your videos has helped me to understand the detail of the process. Perhaps as a suggestion for a video, how the interaction with a customer works as far as the work needed, parts a customer should supply, what a customer should ask, etc. most of us have some understanding, but we don't know what we don't know. also, would like to see cam bearings installed.
If given the opportunity the preference is you supply 0 parts but cores if doable. That way it's the brands they know , trust and measure out well. Saves them time working around bad work and if something's not up to scratch they've got warranty and the supplier on speed dial.
Talk to us more about 4 corner scuffing and what goes wrong internally when certain failures occur. Oil starvation, overheating, etc. A lot of us have those situations arise and wonder what it does to the internals of their engines. Love the channel.
God, I miss working with my dad you guys work so well together
I'm lucky to have a family owned business so my dad and I are together a lot ❤
Speaking of the numbers getting smaller, someone thought that the dryer was responsible for clothes not fitting right over time, but it turns out it's the refrigerator.😅
Lol
Like Rodney Dagerfield said my wife connected to a machine that keeps her alive it’s called a refrigerator
I'm certain that my belt is shrinking
I'm just getting in to watch the videos this father and son are making. I love how great these men get along. The dad has all kinds of experience with engines. The son doesn't look old, but in the videos he takes his father's feedback and never see any squabbles between the two. I love that guys. I lost my dad almost four years ago and id give everything to spend another day doing things with him like old times. I miss my dad so much and watching videos from y'all only makes me miss him even more. Keep up everything fellas, definitely got a sub and a like from me.
Built my first small block Chevy the summer of 64, right out of high school . 265 ci with dual AFB's. Have loved them ever since.
Can't wait to see you put it together !
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the process of getting this engine back together and running.
You can make sure that all the cylinders clean up just fine by doing the last cylinder first instead. 👍
This video is awesome-freshly cleaned and machined engine parts are a pleasure to behold…even more so when it all comes in like you want without hiccups
Greatly looking forward to the next one!
I wish I would have chosen this as my profession. I'm sure it's not all roses, but neither is being a software developer! I love the idea of cleaning up old motors and making them perform! Maybe it's not too late in life.
It's never to late to start a new adventure
I would love to have my own workshop to do this sort of work but a single machine costs way more than what I can afford. I'll try to get rich first.
@@CoreMaster111 I agree. Let's make a deal: either of us win the lottery and we'll get the other their dream shop!
So great to have a wonderful dad that's shares all his knowledge with you.
So jelly.
It would be cool to see what improvements can be made to help oil flow/pressure and to strengthen the block (like grinding off casting flash and sharp edges). Love the content! Keep up the good work!
I would love to see as much of the details and nuances of the machining and assembly. The cleaning guy is old school cool!
Beautiful work as usual. Nice to see the client get lucky with the oversize.
It's really interesting to watch you guys go through it step by step explaining all of the ins and outs. You guys do really nice work. Great video thanks for posting.
That's great you found your customer a block. I would like to see it all. A series would be great. All the way out the door. I have a Ls3 block in a machine shop right now. I found her for $500. Just needed 1 sleeve. It overheated and on startup it drop a valve seat and shattered the piston. He shut it off pretty fast so it only had a nick on the side wall from the wrist pin. I am doing a Ls3/6L80 swap In a 03'Crown Vic Police Interceptor.
That's another level being able to verify cylinder location and angularity of the original bore before sending the cutter through. We have an older Rottler so 0.020" over (0.015") or larger for us, a .010" increase we'd just hone it. It's excellent to show the process to the thousands of viewers, but from a profitability standpoint, bolting the plates on and honing it to .030" would result in at least half the "shop hours" required to complete the process. Cool video!
Im glad you got the views you did so that you continued with this. Alot of fun to watch
I truly love your precision. It is so nice to see real craftsmen. Fantastic guys really
That you noticed how beautiful the tree looked and a rainbow behind means you are paying attention to the best things.
around 55 years ago.I was working at a full service gas station (remember those?). I got a call from a guy that had started changing his oil in his garage and had twisted the filter off leaving only the base. So I towed it to the station and put it on the lift. I was able then to reach from below with a long bar nestling it in one of the return holes and gently tap on it to get it moving. New filter and the day was saved.
I appreciate being subbed to this channel because it's fun and educational, and the cleaning guy makes the mathematics behind the work almost as easy as pushing a broom.😁👍
I did watch the 327 tear down...it was the first video from you guys that I'd ever seen. But I'm subscribed to your channel now!!! Really like and appreciate your knowledge and information on what goes on in engine internals. I've been working on cars for over 40 years myself and what I have learned, if nothing else, is that you can't ever know everything! I've also learned to always keep a teachable spirit!!
Thanks for the videos and the extra knowledge!!
Enjoying your content so far!
I just discovered your channel, are used to work at heads by Paul in Englewood back in 83 through 86. Watching you machining brings back memories are we going through all of them as well as future videos keep them coming.
Definitely want to see you guys clearance the block in detail for the stroke. To many TH-cam doctors out there with there ideas. Would like to see how it's done correctly.
On the throttle body you removed. If you have 0.375 thin wall guide liners you can rebush the throttle shaft.
Warning the throttle blade screws are specials. You can loosen them about 1/2 to 3/4 turn. Till the deformed area hits. Grind that off with a dremel. Tighten the screws and take a tiny fraction more so you still have threads to deform later..
With the shaft out. Drill thru the bore with a letter Y drill. .404 bore, .372 shaft, .030 guide liner thickness. Gives you .003 shaft clearance. Hose clamp the guide liner on a wooden 3/8 dowel to cut to length. I assemble the shaft with a little grease. You do have to back the idle stop screw out to center the throttle blades. Then you can offset center punch the exposed ends of the screw threads. Getting rid of the oval throttle shaft bore gets the tps voltage to return to the same exact fraction of a volt every time.
I know you are not putting the throttle body on this stroker but i thought i would share what i used to do in the engine rebuilding shop i worked in because i had the tools and thinwall valve guides.
Your set-up of the block before machining was particularly interesting.
This is one of my favorite channels, Love the step-by-step detailed information, Makes me want to build something!
Awesome! I guess you guys will drill and tap the bosses in the valley for the roller cam lifter guide retainer. Would like to see that process as well
Watching you interact with your father reminds me of my dad and I. He was my father and best friend
Machinists and Mechanics are some of the most under paid professions. An honest mechanic is priceless.... So the next time you take your heap to a fella that fixes it, be grateful and appreciative.
Great video, good discussions. Thanks. I would love to see and hear that engine running when it is finished!
It'd be lush to see (and hear) these things start up and run after all your work!
Bored hundreds of motorcycle cylinders, back in the day. Hearing the full clean cut in a cylinder never gets old.
I am so glad to find you both. I am fascinated with inspecting the teardown, and now starting a build from the beginning, and the amount of detail step by step.
My father who was a REME (Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineering, British Army) trained and who worked all his days as an agricultural and then automotive mechanic, his trick for a troublesome oil filter was to hit a big screwdriver through it and then twist it off, made a mess but was easy and quick.
I got a sbc block an a muncie 4spd from my father-inlaw before he passed , Are plans were to build a 383 and find a nice body to put in . This has lit a fire under my but .Thanks guys its the little things like this that i can look for in a quality buid!!!
As an old street rodder (now pushing 72), I'm impressed! Wish you were closer...
Love watching you guys making the machining magic! Something satisfying about seeing freshly machined metal. Will you be balancing and blueprinting the engine?
Thanks guys for the good, clean content. 👍
As an east coast guy I love (and envy, in some ways) the situation you and your dad have! Great Plains, great guys, great relationship, great shop, great work, and great videos. Thanks!
Dude, those mouse pads are incredible. Ordered one as soon as you said where the link was. Been a mechanic my whole life and that design shows exactly how I explain the basics of engine operation.
I can’t believe that this story began a year ago. Amazing!
i've seen shops use something like dummy heads and torque bolts to it before doing the hone. from my understanding it is suppose to replicate any distortion the cylinders have when the actual heads are installed.
My favorite you tube channel. We need a video each day lol
Awesome shot of the tree and rainbow. It’s a good sign for this engine build.
This is a fine example of a family full of love, morals and values. That builds success. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you for these informative videos..I enjoy them very much…
Thank you for watching!
@@JAMSIONLINEfairly new subscriber, good stuff thanks. Think 9:1 is overly conservative. For pump gas on 91 10.5:1 with 0.040" or less quench and a performance cam you'll be good with some margin of safety (can use a dynamic compression calculator like Wallace Racing offers). You can go higher but it gets load dependent (weight, time under load...). I'd also recommend going to a 106 LCA on the cam (many circle track cams off the shelf there). Just adjust your duration to have your targeted overlap. You'll make more power everywhere and it doesn't cost anything vs what most run at 110-112.
Enjoying this build. Great to see all the detailed work that goes into this!
My mom had a '69 Impala - a nice 2 door - anyway every time we took the oil filter off it was real fight. we would put it on finger tight - no matter it was a fight to remove
What is so interesting about engine work,the precision and your skill is second to none.
I can't stop watching though !!
18:00 Nice to hear ”blueprint” being used the right way.
Great video, love watching setting up and machining being a retired engineer in the UK, liked and subscribed today 👌👍
Would love to see you guys grow a performance division in your business
I must say, of all the machine shops and fab shops Ive been in and worked in, yalls is the absolute cleanest I have ever seen. The only cleaner one I have ever seen were pics from a Nascar engine builders shop. I wish I could keep mine half as clean as yall do.
The timing of this series is amazing! I’m building an 010 4 bolt L82 numbers marching engine to a 383 for my 79 Vette!
Use capscrew rods for ease of clearance , floating pins for ease of mock up and assemble .....
I bought a "Storm" boring bar about thirty years ago, it sits on the deck and bores the adjacent cylinder, it was made in 37. I adapted it for boring Harley cylinders, never have done an automotive block but have a couple 350's that are due for a rebuild this summer. I suspect I'm better off getting my blocks bored on a dedicated machine having watched the anomalies I can't even measure without a similar setup for checking center to center distances. Thanks!
160k+….. so glad to see this channel growing, and some Colorado boys!
Nice to see the awesome tree and rainbow. Cool little deviation and only is ppl who watch the whole video will enjoy it!
If the center to center measurement is off, but still works, it must be within tolerance because otherwise, the rods would not sit in the journals on the crank.
Would love to see the full build