Lionel New York Central Empire State Express Set
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- A review of Lionel's new 3-rail O-scale New York Central Empire State Express Train Set, which includes Lionel's new 21 inch passenger cars. More videos on the Eric's Trains TH-cam channel and at www.ericstrains.com
Tip: If you have figures that you want to you passengers, mount them with clear silicone. It is virtually invisible, it compensates for uneven surfaces, it isn't t affected by operational vibration, and the figures can be removed simply without damage to the paint. Adding figures is easy with these cars -- because of the ease of access, you can do as much work as you want and close it back up at the end of your session. Cheers!
By far my favorite whistle on any steam locomotive ever. Good job, Lionel.
I'm a 'little late' to this video Eric, but what a beautiful set! Lionel did a great job! Glad you were able to get it and enjoy it.
Thanks for sharing!
I’m impressed by the water scoop on the bottom of the tender. Now I want to see a layout with working track pans!
I really love all the valve gear detail. Especially the lubricator valve which is something Lionel commonly ignores on their steam locomotives. Even though it's fixed in place which it shouldn't be, it's still overall an fantastic model.
Great video Eric! I love those night time shots. You should have a little camera train that runs along side the trains to give a new perspective to the running shots. Maybe like a flatcar with a 1/4 tripod mount pushed by a switcher? Just a thought.
I’ve done some shots like that before, just not in every video. Thanks!
Eric, great review as always! Have you heard or seen the new book Know Thy Hudsons from the New York Central Historical Society? This engine is on the cover.
Eric,
I find myself addicted to your videos. I have watched this video 4 times already. Spent all of yesterday watching all the blog videos :)
What a BEAUTIFUL set! As always, your commentary is excellent.
That’s one Beautiful train
Fantastic video and review, Eric! This set is beyond amazing! My uncle recently picked up the Texas Special 21" passenger cars and they are beautiful, the ones in this set are amazing as well.
Thank you!
I love the whistle sound!
Fantastic, Brian will be glad that I am going to try and get the set.
Great review and great layout. I like the "railroad sounds" though I'm sure some find it annoying. I wonder if the sound of taking on water is at a tower or on the fly? People tell me it was quite a sight watching trains take on water from the troughs between the tracks. As a long time veteran of the aluminum cars, I agree the new cars look great. I am very familiar with some of the aluminum car issues, having worked for a "Lionel" and "Williams" dealer in the late 70's
Woah. Another beauty. 😍 need this set, it’s even more pricey now but hopefully one day soon!
Eric...thanks for the review. As always you did a fantastic job. Wish I could afford trains like these not to mention have the space to run them. My largest radius is 45. But no worries, love to run what I do have and I always have your reviews to look forward to. So, I still get to watch and dream. Thanks and please keep the videos rolling.
Thanks
"Ach du lieber", senor Eric!!! Wow! Of ALL the model train reviews (by others too!) AND ALL the model trains, especially Lionels, this one is my great favorite of all time! The Loco/tender & the cars could have been designed by the great industrial designer Raymond Lowey!! Absolutely GORGEOUS (reminds me of ME!)!!! I am not into model trains (I'm 80 now!), but this set "flips my jib" to no end! Better than a date with a gorgeous young girl! Wowie wow wow!!!!! "Gesundheit"!
That engine has a really nice bark to it. I'm impressed
Fantastic! I've been waiting for a detailed review of the new 21" cars. They do look amazing. I like painting, detailing and adding figures to my passenger cars. I did it with my atlas cars. I'm probably now gonna order a set of these. Thanks Eric!
Always liked O scale for tradition. Grandfather ran O, i run O, and hopefully my kids will run O. Don't get me wrong, HO is really nice looking and i had a few HO scale trains, they had to be sold when i moved sadly, but i would like to have an HO scale layout alongside my O scale eventually. I never played with trains for the prototypicalness, but i like to have things to scale. Besides that, if a loco is missing a valve or grabiron or the whistle is wrong i probably won't care.
Another bit of information: Lionel tried making a Empire State Express locomotive back in the late 90's but they discovered that the body atop a C&O 490 chassis wouldn't look right. Also the route that the New York Central used from New York City to Buffalo is now the interstate I-90.
Thanks Eric for a well done and informative review. Lionel did a good job on the entire
train. I wish my K-Line 21” extruded aluminum ESE cars had the full width diaphragms. I too have added additional passenger figures to my K-Line ESE cars but the disassembly
and reassembly process is very time consuming. For the exception of 6 numbered coaches, the entire consists of both ESE trains were named after former NY State governors. There were also 6 additional coaches that had names instead of numbers. One of the comments for this video mentioned the spoked wheels in the engine’s trailing
truck. All of the NYC Hudsons were built with a 2 cylinder steam booster engine that was geared to the rear axle of the trailing truck with those spoked wheels. They were essential in providing upwards of 12,000 lbs of extra tractive effort to assist in starting heavy
trains. They generally cut out at 20 mph. Due to high maintenance costs they were
often disconnected towards the end of the steam era.
i have 6 lionel line cars like them from the 50s and they are so heavy my engines cant pull them all at once might need some oil haha
Great camera angles. Did you review the diningcar?
The 999 at msi is a great sight there. I also love their huge layout
Very cool train
Really nice train and review Eric they did a good paint job on the cars and locomotive!
Hey! I saw the older style empire state express in 2 or three other videos on your chanel!
Gorgeous set Eric! Those passenger cars are beautiful! I have an earlier Lionel Extruded Aluminum B&O Columbian Observation Car, which I grabbed off EBay. When I got it, most of the passengers had come loose, and had to be re-glued. Needless to say, taking the car apart to re-glue the passengers was a pain in the butt. Looking forward to checking out your next video on these cars.
Standing review very enjoyable
Yay Eric is back :)
Lol its only been a month
+Oscar “the Aventador lp750 sv” Tobar didn't feel like that lol
horray!!!!!!
+The Lionel Railfan (aatrains512) true
The Lionel Railfan IM GETTIN THIS BOY
This needs to double head with your MTH 20th Century Limited. Great Video
I wonder where they got the original sound for the whistle
Love this locomotive 🚂
I think people sometimes forget that their is a fun factor to this Hobbie I think Eric is right who cares what some people think it's a model of a prototype if you like the prototype so much ho see it at a museum just my opinion
Indeed.
The only problem with your logic is that many engines were not preserved. Many classes, including the New York Central Hudsons, were wiped out completely by dieselization.
I love the whistle steam effect.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Great set Eric, the pass cars are the best of the best " I hope to see some day a American woman putting passengers figures in Lionel cars .
The good-looking piece I just wish I had the size layout for it
Can you please do a review on the brand new lion chief plus 2.0 berkshires ?
Cool set. I like the blooper clip lol.
Thanks!
+train wreck not really, except there seems to be a wider variety of products made for 3 rail. 3 rail is also more simple to wire.
MMID303
MMID303 I agree it's funny right?
Ok, Eric, you might not have noticed this, but the last axel on the engine, the one on the trailing truck, is spoked, fun fact, only the first few streamlined hudsons had that.
Eric, I had 8 passenger cars which were aluminum and they were junk they used silicone to glue the passenger in what a joke, the lights also were glued, they come off rolled around in the car it was a mess. I called Lionel and complained that did a lot of good, well that's good they are not putting in the passengers, I would rather do it myself it's more fun !. the engine looks great and the passenger cars look really nice. I don't have the New York Central 4-6-4 in my collection, I ordered the Yellowstone 2-8-8-4 #225 so I have to pick it up first before I commit to another engine.
Man it's been awhile since you uploaded a video and I really enjoyed the video
I love the full-sized diaphrams on the passenger cars. (I think this is a NYC-only convention.) The sprung passenger trucks are really nice, too. Sadly, plastic car bodies kind of make my skin crawl when I touch them. Modern CNC technology should allow Lionel to produce accurate window and door arrangements and still keep costs down, so there is no need for cookie-cutter window and door arrangements across all railroads.
Hi Eric You say you haven't bought the sound car yet, well let me tell you it is great, with sounds not mentioned in the book. I also have the original TMCC version which although good it just doesnt have all all of the sounds of the legacy version. I bought mine from Trainworld and after waiting for this to be delivered, I am so pleased. I do not have the stream line locomotive YET?????
You should do a video of outtakes. I bet it would be quite funny.
amazing video just like all of them!
Hi Eric, another great video, as usual clear and to the point. I would like your opinion about operating couplers on passenger cars, do you think they are necessary...thanks again. Frank
This is SO cool said my Grandson Tyler!
Great review.
Very nice.
Eric, great review as always. I was wondering where the Lionel Video was where they show how to add people to the car. I tried finding it, but can't seem to find it. Could possibly provide a link?
Awesome train video, I like it. :)
Awesome review Eric!
Do we have enough information on the 999?
x3 good review, Though I don't really like the streamlined Hudsons to be quite honest.
Bismarck These locos are a tribute to the Art Deco movement in industrial design prior to ww2
nice vid do you have any old trains
marcia monteverde I know he has some postwar trains
Eric what set do you like better
MTH or Lionel? Both are beautiful to my eyes
Probably the Lionel a little better
I love it already!
Amazing train :)
He said December 7th 1941 and I was like oh nahh 😂
Hey, you can’t use MTH DCS on Lionel locos can you? I’m new to dcs
Eric, can you please review NYC Niagra? Thank You.
Eric, if you picked something for BFIMO for the engine itself, what would it be? Great video by the way!
Probably the tender.
I hope we get a lionchef ready to run set of this and New York central 20th century limited a boy can only dream
did anyone notice the shifting trains in the backround
Band Scores Galore Yep!Not filmed all at once.
I love your videos sub and like, keep up the good work.
hey Eric just wondering if you could give me some tips on building a 3 rail O scale layout my old one was just a thin board and had a bend in the middle so the trains would tend to short circuit.
Excellent video, however, IMHO, the best passenger cars for O gauge are done by Golden Gate. Lionel has improved tremendously and Atlas has come on strong. Keep up the great videos.
GGD makes wonderful passenger cars.
NYC and prr and other railroads that I like and I like all company’s and this is a nice engine and I like Lionel and other sets
Could you also please do a review of the lionel red comet, I dont care if its the reproduction or the original but could you pleasemdo a review of it, the set is worh the money!
The cars are much improved and look so much better compared to a lot of o scale cars. I don't understand the criticism
Some people just live to criticize.
Hey Eric, you probably dont remember me, but I was at your house 2 years ago for the open house pilgramage, anyway, could you review the MTH premier C&O K4 No. 614, in the Greenbrier Presidential Express livery
I did not order one of the new Greenbriers.
okay, just somethin interesting to kick around/
Does it depend on what kind of transformer you have or do you need a controller for the sounds?
Also could you do the MTH 20th century limited, you know, the one with the dreyfuss hudsons?
He already did
Already did it
oohh yeah, forgot, oops.
this level of detail should be a vision line model
I want to see a double header of the 700E hudson and the empire state express hudson
On Thomas & Friends, Conner is based on a Dreyfuss Hudson. Did you know that?
Ok, good to know.
Love it
So I have a question if you were going to move to a different house how would you move the train setup
Do you use JT's Mega-Steam smoke fluid in your engines?
What's with the Nails and Springs?
Do you press a certain button to have crew talk before start up. When I press my start up button when I run my legacy centipede the engine just starts but no talking.
How do you hook the Empire to the remote I’m having trouble can you please make a video
Nice
Does Lionel actually sell these models directly off their website, or do you have to go through a Lionel dealer to get them?
They sell a limited number of items from their website, but for the most part the model train hobby works on the concept of pre-orders. Each year, Lionel puts out 2 catalogs. Once a catalog is released, you have a set amount of time (usually a couple months) to put in your pre-order with a Lionel dealer. Typically the dealer will require a 10% deposit for the pre-order and then the model usually arrives anywhere from 6-12 months later...give or take. Lionel makes it's decision on how many of a particular model to manufacture based on the number of pre-orders, so if you don't pre-order a model you might not be able to find one after the fact.
@@Ericstrains so does that mean that I would not be able to buy this set now in 2020 and have it come straight from Lionel?
@@NinjagoGuy416 exactly. Typically the only way to find an older set is on eBay and places like that. Every now and then Lionel might have an older set from a few years ago that is still in stock, but it’s very rare. The best way to make sure you get the stuff you want is my pre-ordering when a new catalog is released.
@@Ericstrains that’s what I was afraid of 😞 thank you for the information though, I really appreciate it!
I’m wondering where the screws on the layout go
When the engine starts moving the middle wheel did the wheel slip a little.
I like the whistle but the bell is odd having the NKP 765's bell
FireFox 422 oh hey
when you remove the front coupler cover you don't have to completely unthred the 2 screws
This may be unpopular, but traction tires are a real deal breaker for me. They just seem so tacky compared to a history of magnatraction that really was a game changer to begin with. Such an excellent solution and keeps metal on metal as it should be. These locos would just be so much more killer with magnatration. That’s my two sense. Similarly, I would buy these if they cut out the electric sounds and had air whistle tenders… I love Lionel and I’m loyal. I also hate being critical. I keep buying vintage PW trains.
Anyone agree?
Hay Eric do a lights off
i went to go see the 999 in chicogo last year
I got to see 999 back in 2012.
I think the 6-38100 F3 Texas Special passenger cars are nicer looking than these passenger cars on screen. It's aluminum but its 18'' and also has that nice red paint skin on it.
I agree but the only problem with those cars is that they don't have a detailed interior in them.
yea ik but I think that's why some modellers put their custom interior inside the cars.
+SteamKing2160 True.
Hi Eric, I just bought this set the other day brand new, and I just completed my layout. I've noticed that your engine seems to be fine going over switches at slow speed. Whenever my engine goes over a switch it just dies, and this is with every steamer I own. I have Atlas 054-072 switches. What my dad and I did was run two different transformers with 2 buses for each track we have, but no matter what, at slow speed the engines struggle over the switches. Do you have any tips for Atlas switches? Thanks!
Did you make sure that the center rails on the switches are not isolated from the rest of the grid, because it's a lack of power there. Make sure your wiring is right there and you're using metal rail joiners (if applicable)
Do you mean the center frog that lifts the roller?
bump
Do the train have blue tooth
cool
I have this exact same engine same road number in ho scale
NYC 999 when?
We're did you get the Empire State Express
Legacy Station
You need to do 999!!!!!!!