Mafell P1CC - The World's Most Expensive Jigsaw?
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- In this second part of our Mafell session with Robin we take a look at the P1CC jigsaw which carries a whopping £400 price tag, but is it worth it? and would Robin consider swapping his Festool PS 420 EBQ-Plus CARVEX jigsaw for this beast?
900W universal motor with an impressive 114mm depth of cut and built-in extraction system to keep the workpiece clean at all times. Takes standard bayonet type sawblades in addition to a unique CUnex W1 blade, allowing the tightest curves to be cut with 90° precision. Both base plates can be used in conjunction with Mafell guide rails systems. Supplied with parallel fence and circle cutting attachment.
• 900W
• 5-Stage Pendulum Orbit Action
• Variable Speed
• Tool-Free Blade Change
• Dust Extraction Facility
• Aluminium Base
• All-Metal Gearbox
• Lock-On Switch
Applications:
• Cut-outs for sinks and kitchen hobs.
• Trimming work on furniture and kitchens for interior fitting.
• Perfectly straight cuts when used with a guide rail.
• Recesses.
• Cutting circles and curves.
• Cutting workpieces to length.
• Ideal for cutting wood, laminates, plastic, metal, timber containing metal, gypsum, melamine resin panels (Trespa) and fibre-cement board.
#Mafell #Woodworking #Powertools
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These 2 guys bring a smile to my face every single time. I love their videos, super professional, great chemistry, very informative and helpful.
Really like this format. You both work really well together and great chemistry. Neither trying to upstage the other and you can tell there is a genuine respect and friendship. Keep this up.....:-)
Robin Hood popped out the blade and Roger Tuck didn't even blink, perfect composure, fantastic!
Well, You guys are great. Great review, Impressive saw!! I think I need one of these. You guys are just a kick! Love you guys! from Olympia Wa USA.
Another great video. Thanks guys!
Love these guys.. their collaboration is so cool.
They are expensive but so good. Their after sales service is excellent, my mortiser had a small twist in the base plate (possibly due to it falling off the bench?) contacted Mafell and they replaced it free of charge. Have had no problems with any of their kit.
Top work guys, great working chemistry between the two of you, amazing how many little tips you can pick up just from the banter.
Hi Robin I was very impressed with the review of the jigsaws I have the Festool jigsaw like yours I still have my Metabo that is still working but was very impressed with the Mafell maybe when we all get back to work after this virus I might consider treating myself keep up with the brilliant videos.
Another entertaining video lads. You really do deserve more subs.
Love the videos, real tradesmen reviewing tools.
I love seeing you guys doing videos like that!
Here in Germany Mafell is considered as the brand which provides both absolute
precision and power. Their Tools mainly used by carpenters and for processing of large quantities of beams. If you have to cut trough 100 mm of material on daily basis on a professional level the answer is Mafell.
I would love to hear your opinion on their portable table saw 'Erika' (most german name ever :) ) and the revolutionary KSS system.
Lennart the KSS is incredible I have an 80 and only once have I had another saw out of the box since I brought it. I’d love an Erika but it’s costs a bloody fortune.
The KSS 80 is a very nice construction tool, but it hast quite some heft to it. For almost every job I found the small sister of big ol' 85, the KSS 300, to be more than enough. Obviously it's not the right machine for beams or thick boards but it rips through sheet good and flooring like nothing. With the MaxiMax set the sheer amout of applications in one systainer is just ridiculous...
Lennart I do a lot of green timber framing so need the depth of cut. I brought the 80 first as I couldn’t afford two but my plan is to buy a kss50 or 60 later in the year as you are correct it’s a lump of a tool. What a tool it is though I brought some Bosch guide rails and my plunge saw stops in the workshop now.
Lennart I also needed a beam planer so couldn’t afford that and two saws at same time.
great !
£400 for a jigsaw wow nice vid lads keep them coming all the best kev
Hi guys, revisiting this great video again as I bought one of these after this review and it’s a fantastic bit of kit, but I’m in the market for a cordless, and Robin cited the new Hikoki 36v barrel handle as being “as good as the Mafell”. I’ve already adopted the Hikoki multi volt system but I had to go with the Makita barrel handle (which is an ok bit of kit) as Hikoki didn’t do one at the time but it would be extremely useful for a side by side review if possible? Keep the great content coming guys.
I like watching video's made by craftsmen who know what they are talking about. Plus the videos are informative and entertaining at the same time. Keep up the good work.
I have looked at this myself before I fixed my carvex and just couldn’t have the wire. Another great review 👍
Have you guys looked at the Starrett Dual Cut blades - cuts on the down and the up stroke to eliminate break out.
Would love to see your review on them.
Love the channel BTW
great review guys
I have the pleasure to own the P1 myself. It's incredible to work with. And a feature I didn't hear was the bottom actually uses the air from the motor to blow and transport the dust away and out of the back. And not in your face
Hi guys, have owned the Mafell jigsaw and a few festool jigsaws , the mafell is by far the superior tool until it got stolen then I went back to festool, great channel buy the way , keep up the good work..
I am so sorry that the Mafell got stolen. It is a real problem in this country now and I can't see it getting better.
You guys are very entertaining. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Barry. We are trying to do more but the other evening when we had a session booked we both decided we were too knackered from working out on site in the hot sun.
It is very hard to find the time.
Skill Builder No problem. Hope you managed a few cold beers in front of the footie to relax! 🍺🍺
@@SkillBuilder does the jigsaw have a light on it?
@@SkillBuilder good evening, do you know if Mafell is going to rid this jigsaw of its cord, add a battery and a light?
Looks great
I've been using a Dewalt Jigsaw with NiCd batteries for many years and the batteries have had it so thanks to you to I'm £500 poorer this evening! It does look good so I am sure it is money well spent...
..should have rebuilt the battery pack using high-discharge lithium cells like I did. Breathes new life into old tools (and doubles, triples the capacity!)
hey… don't know if someone else mentioned it but you can put the blade in backwards which is handy for some cuts… that is only possible because there isn't a guide system for the blades… I had a festool but sold it to buy the mafell…
I've been using Bosch jig saws for three decades barrel grip.
I found a tiny amount of lubricant on the roller and the pivot keep your jigsaw working smoothly and reduce the heat buildup on blades.
You have to be really pushing a jigsaw hard to discolor the blade from heat. until 20 years ago no manufacturer had the blade stabilization guide or the orbital action in the same configuration as Bosh.
Now it seems like the standard.
the real star and all of this is the Bosch corporation selection of blades which can cut anything on any job anytime anywhere 🤭 . The bosch jigsaws I see now or cheap plastic for DYI mostly.
funny how if you're in the trades for 40 years you see the quality of tools shift yet get more complex and better but cheeper. not to say there aren't a lot of amazing tools out there that we never had when we were young . 👍⚒️
I always enjoy you guys and your tool and job videos. if I keep watching more I'll finally figure out the terms for tools and cutoffs you guys throw around 👍👌
On a more serious note! I noticed that after 20 minutes you both had problems turning the jig saw off!
As always another absolutely cracking production great work well done all at Skillbuilder HQ 🛠🍒⚒
Interesting you should say that because I have the same problem on my Festool PSB 420 Carvex. I think the switch is just too far away from the grip.
@@richardmasters3571 I'm glad I'm not the only one with that problem. Probably should have got the
D handle.
Excellent bit of kit yes it's heavy but if you're not man enough to hold it you should be using one I'm now retired I was 68 years old I like to still use mind , if you want to cut a straight line it's perfect and if you want to go around curves circles it's excellent even at angles , best jigsaw I have ever had, no problem at all ,
Phil from the Moulin in France
wish had motor elect. brake...for that kind of mony
great job mates
Interesting, thanks. ... this fancy kit is for the consummate pros, the double blade is a good idea, will it trickle down? My 20 year old Makita could so with an upgrade tho tempted by the cordless tech . btw, I always try use safely glasses when jigsawing, especially when you have having to eyeball your cutting line on chipboard, avoids getting those woods flakes in ur eyes, and avoid pterygiums at the worse case.
Had mine now for a few years, awesome bit of kit, had others makes not patch on this. Does everything I ever asked it to do. The double blade are somewhat expensive though £28.00 for 2 ouch.
I like see yours videos. You're specials. A hug!!!
Mafell makes the best tools for carpenters!
I am agreeing, its great kit
Track saw is the best tool I have ever owned, very happy I never got a festool
I have had the Mafell for a few months and it is undoubtedly the finest jigsaw I have ever used. It makes the Carvex look like the awful jigsaw it really is. Sorry Robin, the Carvex is Festool's dog. The Mafell cuts 100% straight, there is a support glide in the Systainer which clips to both bases to keep it rock steady when using the rail and, as there is no blade guide at all, you can reverse the blade and cut by pulling the jigsaw towards you. Precision engineering at its best, the tilt base provides extra support on perpendicular cuts, the two pins in the trammel guide make circle cutting a breeze and the dust blower/extraction system is just superb. Great video, (RTFM in future!), and you will over the next few days see that this wunderkid is worth every penny of its outrageous price!
Very fine comment! Next time I would like them to be a little bit better informed about what they are working with, just as you say.
Yes you are right we tried to squeeze this one in on the end of the track saw video session and a ten minute read of the 'effing manual' would have been an investment. We will do better next time. The blind leading the blind. Sorry guys
Good on you Roger! The jigsaw will amaze you both with its performance and capabilities. I nearly fell of the bar when I saw the price but one quick demo convinced me that it was the Clachan a Choin!
Festool dropped an enormous clanger with the Carvex and I bought one having been delighted with the Trion only to find that instead of improving it they had gone backwards. It broke three times and in the end it became an expensive paperweight as I couldnt in all honesty pass it on to someone else. The 18v version is a dog too, and I tested it against the Metabo 18v jigsaw which trampled all over it. I bought the Metabo as Mafell do not (yet) make a cordless P1CC but the latest news on a single battery platform for a number of German powertool manufacturers may change that. Possible a Mafellised Metabo, just like the drills Metabo make for Mafell.
I did buy festoon b4 I saw/heard of Mafell and wish I had gone for P1 as once u add the extras the price point was/is so close.
I’d never go back to my POS carvex from the Mafell. The cunex blades are cracking but they are bloody expensive. That said I’ve never bent one or burnt one out so they are actually worth the investment. Once you had a bit of time and familiarity with it you will see it is truly superior. Get Nathan out from NMA to show you all it’s tricks.
I like your style very much. Seriously reviewing stuff and still talking simply and friendly with a good deal of humor, thank you.
As a carpenter I've lived with out a jigsaw for 3 years! Track was and multi tool and router covers me for all jigsaw work so far!
Was saw
Had one of these about 5 years now and mainly use Bosch TO1 BR reverse cut blades and it’s a perfectly chip free 90 degree cut at about a quid a blade you not get a better cut. Nothing else out there to touch this, yes expensive but the time it saves more than pays for itself. Just missing a light 🤔😉
Fantastic jigsaw.
Ever the professionals - just keep talking as Robin shoots a blade across the bow! *chortle*
my speciality!!!!!
I think I want the Carvex though, I know nothing about it but one thing is for sure I can’t afford the Mafell today or prob tomm. Maybe a little down the road bc I would love the mafell but it’s outside of my budget. I don’t often say that too 😆 I hope the carvex is at least top 3 overall bc I need a good jigsaw & the new dewalt is looking pretty sexy atm
Good motor and a solid mechanism, but there's no deadman switch, and the blade is almost impossible to see if you're cutting from above (which is sometimes necessary).
I own the Mafell ,work with it one of the best tools i have imported from Germany to Australia so far! Worth every cent. Usually I love your videos but have you ever watched a video about the saw before you did the test how to use it? I am pretty sure you don"t .
You guys filmed it as a QVC commerical... except there is no scrolling number to call to order.
And Robin is not screaming "We only have 20 units left...."
lol
Hi , at 20:50, Obviously you're missing a small plastic piece that comes clipped under the hoof, so that the jigsaw does not tip over the rail guide ! I find it unfortunate that you have not seen fit to test the many cutting options offered by this saw and its accessories ! it is quite unique in jigsaws !
I find increasingly that my jigsaw only sees about ten minutes of action, mainly for cutting out recesses for sinks and trimming the excess from work surfaces to reduce the work done by a router. For plunge cuts in situ I use a multi tool.
ILove Jig saw.
6 years old job saw you just now saw it ?
What a
I have only just found my glasses
I find I use a jigsaw less and less as time goes by, but have no complaints with my dewalt.
That thumbnail is what nightmares are made of.
have you done a jigsaw showdown? looking for a new one (under £200)
The mafell cunex W1 blade is only 75 mm long . They concept the cunex to fit only for P1cc but Bosch Precision Cut blade can cut straight up to 160 mm the cunex W1 only 75mm.
I think the P1CC is the most expensive Jigsaw, but forthe best Perf&Quality/price ratio, the Bosch GST 160 CE is the best one.
They do a scribe base that looks really good for cutting skirting boards.
Look at Mafell free hand coping foot you tube video.
Use the angle blade cut feature!
Speaking of an apprentice, how much should an apprentice get paid on average in the uk and us?
Hi Roger
Which is better...
With or without handle?
You did not ask me, but I want to tell you, the handle makes no sense, because with the bodygrip, you are much closer to the center of weight.
So you get much more control.
I´m a carpenter for over 40 years, and never saw a collegue with a handeled jigsaw.
The P1CC is the finest jigsaw in the world...dead on straight cuts. Unmatched power and accessories... unmatched dust extraction...... worth every cent...I have 2 of them...
Joe Framer one for each hand
@@Tommy-on6sl Lol
You have just used the best jigsaw in the world ! And use it from underside all the time, 30 years of jigsaw work everyday experience!
festo ps2 - 450watt and still going strong after 20 years of kitchen fitting. being left handed I prefer the body grip style and have an atlas copco for rough work also 20 years old.
I got both of them, and I have to say, the Mafell is much more precise.
What is Robin's main trade? Another great video!
He is a carpenter and like many carpenters he has branched out to run building projects from the ground up. He still works on the tools almost every day. Sometimes he has Sunday off
I like Robin & Roger. ..it's good to review tools and ask Questions. ..
I am a chippy!!! love it too, building is a way of life and having a trade or craft is in my opinion one of the greatest things you can do in a lifetime!! just wish the money was better!!!
You guys and your Brit accents kill me! I'm curious to know something: you guys seem to get along very well...close buddies...are you? Either way, you're very funny and generally informative. There are a lot of features and capabilities you didn't cover, though. Also, it would have been nice to see the result if you put a square on your scroll cuts. After watching your video and others on this piece of kit, I'm going to buy one despite its enormous price.
Lol these guys great Honest evaluation
if your working upside down how high would the work be ?? (ie on workhorse,? trestles?
Hi Steven, I use it on trestles but I'm only 5ft 7!!!! I would imagine if you are over 6ft this may be low and uncomfortable, its a good question/point keep them coming!!
Robin Clevett thanks Robin, I agree I think it would be uncomfortable and awkward on certain jobs ? love the videos with you & Roger .
figure it out... no rules... just most comfortable
I love circular saw
yeah, for cutting ...circles?!
and the first rule is safety goggles haha!!
Hold it upside down and get no breakout - on the top!
did you even watch this video or just comment?
Just commented, was I supposed to watch the video?
No we love comments it is just that we did use it from the bottom and discussed it,
@ 06:06 The Cheeky Apprentice nearly shoots the Master with his Festool saw blade, But! Being the Master means you notice! Clock the Cheeky Apprentice and carry on with your piece to camera 😜🍒📹
Fantastic! I'll go and buy one today - hell why not two? That's the thing about carpentry, unlike with metal machining - precision is far more important! I've tried using all the junk brands like Bosch, Makita, Dewalt etc to cut a 1 tho extra cut and they just can't do it...huh. I'm old enough to see through BS - tell me, if Mafell (a tool brand I have never heard of until now) have been in business since 1899 - give me a link to a hand tool made by them from 1900 or so.....
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david baker So because you haven’t heard of them or don’t require a tool of this precision they can’t be any good?
You need to get out from under the rock your living under. Probably never heard of Hilti rotary hammers either…
'Thrust wheel' behind the blade chaps
No sorry roger mate the corded machines nowadays are last year cordless all day long but it does look like a quality machine
What's with the On/Off switch ?? You have to manually turn it off
Yes with a body grip it is often used under the workpiece so the cut is down. The switch means you can then hold the post and achieve better control on scrolling.
Ahh already purchased the mc55 and sold my ts55r after the tracksaw reviews, im starting to see red, ps does anyone wanna buy a carvex
The carvex is cool too, it has light and a motor brake, just is not that precise.
You seem to have trouble turning it off. That's a bit of a concern...
You`re right, the switch goes up and down instead of forward backward as all other jigsaw-switches I know, do. Thats quite irritating, and I don`t see the reason why they did so.
Not sure why you didn't use the CUnex blade on your eves scroll. That's the point of that blade - a square cut through thick stock. Also, the main reason Mafell can do away with guide rollers is the shaft/"piston" is much thicker than other jigsaw brands. Both the fixed base and tilt base will plonk straight on the rail. Don't forget to use the little plastic spacer clips to support the off-rail part of the base though. This is the "accept no substitutes" jigsaw. Do some homework - do it justice guys ;)
Thanks for that. We will do it again.
Robin did say he'd have a proper look to be fair. Good bants between the 2 of you btw. I like the presentation style.
To be honest the only reason we stuck it up is to see if people like the format of taking it out of the box and finding our way but we need to be a lot more clued up on the product.
We are going to rescue this one with a new edit which keeps some of the chat but has stronger content.
A five year old kid was missing from your video Roger. If in doubt on anything, and I refer to me trying to set up my IMac, a passing Grandson or similar will quickly sort out all the technical details without ever reading the manual!
I'm starting to feel bad now buddy lol.
Tools from germany the best
Why do people feel it is so important to promote nation supremacy in all things? It leads to wars and besides which many German tools are made in China.
Mafiafellicious jigsaw!
Roger don't forget the safety glasses
Colin You are right. Too rushed on this one.
Ja, Mafell Stichsaege ist die teuerste auf dem Markt, aber auch die Beste. Das kann man nicht bestreiten.
a russian spekin dutch ha
Black and Decker had a jigsaw in the 1970s that used the same system (no roller). But you had to use an allen wrench to change the blade.
I was thinking Robin sounded like he was high, then i realised I had you tube running a 1:25 normal speed.
I jacked it up to double speed because I could feel myself growing older waiting for these guys to get down to business... it's just a jigsaw, FFS!
Are you using a correct posh blade for it?
of course, we always use the posh blades.
first world genius working people, obviously
hi there. can you make review of some uk made tools
Are there any? It would be a short series
@@SkillBuilder thanx guys
if I want to make a straight cut, the last tool I'd reach for is my jigsaw so I don't quite understand the point of that attachment I won't lie. If I happened to cut through my circular saw flex last thing on a friday, yeah I might well clamp my spirit level to the workpiece and use that as a straight edge as a last resort but I'd never choose to! Am I missing something?
I've also got a router attachment for my tracks, which I bought for housings and rebates. I never use it because the convenience of the track for a plunge saw is knowing that your splinter guard is zero clearance. As soon as you start introducing some arbitrary offset, set up time goes way up which is no good on repeat passes - looks like you'd have the same issue with the jigsaw attachment as far as I can see.
I can't disagree with a word you say. No point in putting it on the rail
With the CUnex (double thick) blade, it cuts surprisingly square - not sure why they opted for a standard blade in the vid. I use the short 800mm rail to finish the corners on cut outs after plunge saw cuts. I get a perfect square every time. Some might not want to be that anal but there you are. I use the jigsaw and rail for solid insulation too. Quick, straight and less messy than colleagues who still insist on a hand saw. Good for straight cuts on thick stock too with the longer CUnex blade. It's about options. I didn't always see the point of jigsaw and rail but it's a setup I use often now.
Bisch Basch Bosch each to their own, if for whatever reason it ends up being seen, I opt for the Japanese saw after plunge. I like the look of the mafell in all fairness but 90% of my jigsaw cuts are back cuts on a scribe so I'm not bothered in the slightest about drift
1) If you need to do a flush cut
2) If you need to do a short cut (shorter than your circular saw blade diameter)
3) with some materials like laminate flooring or plexiglass, it's better to use a jigsaw than a circular saw
You're assuming this saw will only be used for timber... I could see the rail being handy to use for cutting other sheet material like plastic and metal or where the circular saw just isn't appropriate.
How about some ppe guys glasses ear defenders.
your videos are so funny! ..i like how the short hair guy looks a little bit drunk ...no judgement guys.. i dont know exactly way ...but love your videos .. very onest revew also..
The short haired guy is a drinker for sure. He drinks tea all day long
Jigsaws have all went cordless. I have metabo. And metabo is part of the CAS system.
Mafell is for tough guys , Festool is for softies :-)
De Walter maffel is an expensive Metabo..!
TheDarthvader123 Mafell produced 85% of everything in own factorys in germany , Metabo produced angle grinders only in germany other tools of Metabo are made in Poland or czech or asia ....how can mafell be expensive metabo?
As far as I know Metabo only makes the drill/drivers for Mafell.
they make the batteries and the drills are same shape bodies but better guts
jon dW the only thing what i know is that Metabo build angle grinder in germany and they have a new factory in shanghai ...you can see that with angle grinders in oz tool talk video of metabo factory tour . And there is a post of a german carpenter he was on a Mafell factory tour and he wrote that 85% of all parts and tools of mafell are made in germany , sadly he was not allowed to make a video in the factory of mafell .
2:54 "The Germans they talk to each other"
Yes,indeed they do! Especially in this
Case.Mafell and Festool are just 58 miles apart from each other ^^
Robson and Jerome fell on hard times!
im with ya on the surprise party. Not for me either thanks
Thanks Mark. Sometimes I think I am just a miserable old git. It is good to know others are wired the same
lol... thanks.
Why would you choose wire over battery?
Longer use life. Cheaper. Battery is the most expensive part in most tools these days. And the first thing to fail as well.
freshpootube I couldn’t see myself using one on site to be honest, maybe better for workshop use?
Been cutting upside down for 20 years!!! Bloody plumbers
lol
Does any fitter still use a jiggie to cut out a sink though?
Track saw all day long.
I agree but there is such a thing as DIY and many people doing up their own houses have limited budgets and hardly any tools.
@@SkillBuilder Mafell budget saw, got it. ;)
I still own the carvex and I agree it’s the worst jigsaw I have ever used ..... the blade guide just doesn’t work and if it jumps out of work piece it always breaks the gear cover ..... horrible machine festool definitely need to upgrade ....... is the Mafell still good with the cheaper blades ie Bosch ?
It was a dog for sure and some say it was not even their machine just rebadged.
Yes. Mafell do not make jigsaw blades. Mafell blades are made by Scintilla/Bosch in Switzerland and the only difference is the logo on the blade and a higher price! The Bosch T101B is perfect in the Mafell as are all the Bosch blades.
Bradford joiner 1 year on lol and I’ve decided to buy the metabo 140plus what a machine love it ........ it’s got the old type blade tensioner with the wheels which actually works ......... plus it costs £160 with 3 years warranty ......sorry festool but you’ve lost a customer to your jigsaws
Do you guy's know that they do jigsaw blades that cut on the down stroke
They did mention that
Sorry must get new batts for this hearing aid
Hilti WSJ 850-EB costs 55 pounds more then the mafell P1CC i wonder if the hilti is any better
I have one and it is great. I suspect it is the same tool because Hilti bought German tools for their woodworking range rather than making it.
Schitilla are a Bosch subsidiary are they not?
Yes they are
Skill Builder I believe scintilla developed the jigsaw as we know it.
I just thought it was me obs not i had a upside down blade for my jigsaw and it bounced all over d place
No videos together any more have Roger and Robin had a fall out ?
I put some serious thought into buying the P1CC but in truth a jigsaw isn’t really a tool I need to be precise. Spending £500 on one where a £150 tool will do doesn’t make much sense to me.
Agreed .
Makes sense. But because it is so much more precise then ever before was one, you can find new applications. Then it makes sense again.
I am in the United States we call them barrel grips