Valorant Vs. CS:GO - A Brutally Honest Comparison (hi ohne)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Valorant and CSGO are the most popular competitive FPS games on the market. Their similarities have caused a war between the two. Which one is the better game?
0:46 Weapons/Utility/Abilities
3:57 Weapon Mechanics
4:39 Movement
5:07 Map Design
6:28 The Communities
7:57 Skins
10:13 User Experience
11:16 Community X Developer Relations
13:16 Conclusion
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Here before ohnePixel reacts to this.
Bais pixel*
@@stringtaino shit
Me too
Same.
Yes
I tried CS recently and honestly
The gunplay blew me away and I had way more fun
I just couldn't get used to the maps just from how many there were
Although I felt the same starting Val with all the abilities so I think Im just gonna keep at it and play more CS
My friends and I have been using CS for Valorant warmup just bc the gunplay is more fun…. Until you get awped
i have fun
until my deagle on the head misses bc first shot accuracy lmfao
The new Competitive mode where you can pick exactly which maps to play will help with that a ton. Welcome!
@@linkplays2952Valorant's first shot inaccuracy is also fairly shit tbf
@@YourAverageUsername42 It's same thing in cs btw, it just isn't stated by devs. Funny that a lot of valo haters use this as some smart argument tho. Also, gunplay in cs2 is a lot worse than in Valo, in CSGO, I agree, gunplay and source movement were the only thing keeping me for 2 years before leaving cs to valo. But CS2 just demolished movement and gunplay (at least at current patch)
lowkey but 20yo supermodels to todlers comperation is hella wierdXDDD
lmfao I was thinking the same thing
Yeah cuz from a fair perspective, Valorant was created on a time with better technology but CS has time to adapt since their technology isn't stationary.
@@YourAverageUsername42 yea man i got the point but out of the topic its just crazy thing to say XD
Can we talk about how good he is in both Val and csgo he hits some crazy plays
crispy af
Finally, someone who talks about region when it comes to community
Great video overall! As a huge CS fan I think it’s undersold in this video the skins hold real world value. If someone purchases something, they should become full owners of it and, therefore, be able to sell it. I think it’s also similarly predatory to have rotating shop items, and items that may never come back, because it creates the FOMO gambling creates. We shouldn’t kid ourselves about the Fortnite style FOMO, especially because it is clearly a more kid friendly game (Fortnite, OW, and Val). That said, this video hit the nail on the head in all of its critiques against Valve/CS, especially crate/skins gambling. Though, an argument is to be made that, like you said with Valorant skins, the buyer knows what they’re getting into (or should). That said, Valve should do better to ensure appropriate aged people are the only ones participating in the gambling.
Finally, it does disappoint me CS fans take things too far with their hate toward Valorant. I think it should be a meme - that is, clear and silly jokes, and both games should support each other. After all, CS fans can likely thank Valorant for pushing Valve to do more with CS. I don’t play Valorant much but will definitely support it and keep trying to heal the divide❤😂
I actually think having the skins be worth real money only makes the issue worse. It gives people more of an incentive to gamble and "invest" thousands of dollars for a simple paint job. I’m just not that big on investments, stocks, NFTs, etc. so maybe my priorities are elsewhere. And don’t get me started on gambling and casinos. I get upset over losing $5 to a simple claw machine at the fair, let alone thousands on card games and slot machines.
@@CR0WYT Definitely fair points. I'm just on the other side of this one, except with gambling. I hate gambling -- never liked going to the casino or opening cases cause it's just throwing away my hard earned money! On the other hand, I am very into investing (stocks, crypto, art) haha and so any way Valve/CS can further legitimize the skin "investments" should be made (and thus far they have with allowing cs float and legit websites to exist). But they also need to limit gambling, children involvement and protect consumers overall
@@CR0WYT Plus, you don't actually own any of the skins. Valve could just take them away, ban your account, etc..
Great video overall! As a huge CS fan I think it’s undersold in this video the skins hold real world value. If someone purchases something, they should become full owners of it and, therefore, be able to sell it. I think it’s also similarly predatory to have rotating shop items, and items that may never come back, because it creates the FOMO gambling creates. We shouldn’t kid ourselves about the Fortnite style FOMO, especially because it is clearly a more kid friendly game (Fortnite, OW, and Val). That said, this video hit the nail on the head in all of its critiques against Valve/CS, especially crate/skins gambling. Though, an argument is to be made that, like you said with Valorant skins, the buyer knows what they’re getting into (or should). That said, Valve should do better to ensure appropriate aged people are the only ones participating in the gambling.
Finally, it does disappoint me CS fans take things too far with their hate toward Valorant. I think it should be a meme - that is, clear and silly jokes, and both games should support each other. After all, CS fans can likely thank Valorant for pushing Valve to do more with CS. I don’t play Valorant much but will definitely support it and keep trying to heal the divide❤😂
@@WillieWood42the stock market is literally just gambling bro….
9:57 “VASS?? You can resell it doeee” - Ohnepixel
finally a comparison that isnt all about one thing and isnt biased
found the valorant player
@@TAELSDOLL found the csgo player
@@TAELSDOLL found the csgo player
@@ertiaa but is he right though?
@@TAELSDOLLFound the biased guy
(Seriously I don't care what game you hate more, being biased is a crime in comparisons)
As a CS player who also plays valorant but not as much as I play csgo (cuz its addicting) and doesn't understand why both communities hate each other so much I agree with ur opinion
I absolutely hate how Valorant does not have spray patterns in the game, idk why they want to force people to tap/burst and it just lowers the skill ceiling by a TON
You think so? I thought it made the game harder because you can’t just spray
@@StephGoKrazy that makes the game luck based, not skill based
@@pantheonatreus981the skill lies in not relying on Spray
@@Siuubeink then they should remove vandal and just use guardian instead, there is a spray in game for a reason, it’s a gameplay you choose. You either aim to tap head or control to spray. What’s the sense of fps in just tapping heads?
@@Siuubeink in both games first you aim for the head and then if you fail you start spraying. While in cs you have control over second stage of shooting( if you didn't hit headshot) in valorant you pray for random to kill the enemy
You're the first one who did a comparison without being biased love it u earned my respect and subscribe❤️
That is not how bias works but ok
@@hamiamsandwitch6571 HHHHHHHHHHHHH
20+ year CS veteran here. Started in CS Beta-->1.6 (almost went pro, but then...adulting)--->CS:Source--->2006-->stopped gaming for a loooong time--->Got back into gaming in 2019 and discovered CS:GO. Loved it but also shocked at how much hadn't changed. Especially the terribly racist and toxic community.
Enter Valorant in 2020. Played the beta and fell in love. I too was worried about the "magic agent ability" stuff. I'm an old school CS player! I'm used to gritty, same util for everyone, etc. However, after playing a CS:GO for about a year and noticing ways it could be improved -- Valorant did ALL of that for me.
I didn't hate CS:GO at all. But it still had an "ancient" feel about it. Like, having to open the console and google custom commands to change certain settings? Like, I still have to do this 20 years later?? Talk about a barrier to entry for new players. 😳 And the fact that pro players were still playing at resolutions I was using in 2004 and it's STRETCHED and looks like ass? But, hey, that's what you gotta do to get better FPS and to see player models best, and be pro. Not in Val, luckily.
Like you said in the video, Riot looked at what Valve has done poorly with CS and "fixed" it for Valorant, and added their own little twist. And they adapt and change stuff QUICK. They love the community and I'm very impressed.
The Valorant twist of adding agent abilities was REALLY hard for me to embrace at first. But I've come to love it because it makes the possibilities and gameplay much more dynamic VS the more rigid, predictable tactics of CS (where everyone has the same abilities).
So, I play A LOT more Val than I do CS now. I just enjoy it more. But CS is my roots and will always have a place in my heart. However, I'm stoked to play some CS2. It looks like (again), there really isn't much of a leap in gameplay beyond bullets/HEs dissipating smokes. Nothing to really shake up the meta and have players adapt and re-innovate their style/gameplay. It just feels like a rigid, SAFE update. But I'm still excited to get back on the CS train and try it out.
I love both Val and CS equally but for different reasons. I better end this novel now. 😆 I agree with everything you said in the video. Thanks for putting this together!
You nailed it, said everything that I was saying to some of the other people in the comments.
My only issue is that when I play any CS match I feel like I'm in Russia. But I like the free speech aspect of it and believe people should say whatever they like. If someone doesn't like it - there's a mute, problem solved.
Hey! Quick tip for your aps flash on inferno bounce it off the chimney. They way you threw it wouldn’t blind anybody on site or pit
Less buttons on csgo to push , means my brain is happy
You have a really good commentary style with some really good humour sprinkled in here and there despite the analytical style of the vid! nicely made
Wow, spot on. You addressed all the relevant points and stayed neutral the whole time. I respect you for being honest and not taking a side. I've been a die hard csgo fan the whole time and you got everything right. This is the best and least biased video on this topic so far and I'm glad someone did it right. Thank you
This video is really the only real COMPARISON video I've seen on this subject. Only really giving your own opinions towards the end with some splashed of it throughout the video. Other than that just comparing and showing both sides of the coin. Amazing video keep up the great work.
valorant said they want each map with a gimmick. some has portals, some has 2 T spawns, some have rotating doors and so on. I dont want to deal with some of the unique map related bs and would rather not play on those maps, yet cant opt out.
That's how everyone feels whenever a new map is released, everyone hates it, but when they are forced to play it and are forced to learn to play it, they get used to it. I remember, I had that issue when Lotus first came out, I hated it, and it's grown quite a lot on me
Im pretty sure that ohnePixel will react to this and will disagree with many of your points. This video seem more neutral than most of other ones that talk about this topic (especially the one from hardcore CS players most of the time).
I really dislike that Valorant spray paterns are not consistent and really like CSGO being consistent and rewarding for adaptable players
Some things to mention: It is easier to develop a e-sport scene nowadays than it was 20 or 10 years ago. E-Sport as a whole has grown a lot. CS and CS:GO grew alongside e-sport, Valorant was created in an era that already has a solid foundation for this type of competition. About the Valorant community being more open-minded than the CS community, this is easy to explain, many Valorant players came from other games, from cs:go itself, pubg, crossfire, point blank and several other fps, while cs:go there is usually an audience that has played the same game forever.
Honestly, Valorant's franchise system is not very good in e-sport, it limits the number of teams and players because they honestly do not do shit for tier 2 competition, in CS, Valve shits on all tiers but frees companies to create their own annual circuits that are simply open to everyone with a team to participate like BLAST, DREAMHACK, ESL and IEM.
Spot on! I’ve been playing CS for more than 15 years on and off. Played some COD when I was a kid but it was COD 2 and modern warfare and I’ve only played it single player. CS has always been the only FPS I’ve played multiplayer and I never felt the need to play something else. In Valorant’s case, I’ve personally never tried it and never will, because the cartoony vibe of the game is not my cup of tea.
@@datsj2152 it's only half of it I don't like because it's cartoony. The other half is all the incels, and weebs who white knights every gamer girl on valorant. That what mostly killed my vibe.
This is comming from a mainly cs player, but there are some points I want to address here.
Obviously CS had many years to develop and figure things out and Valorant has a lot of complexity in game balance due to the agents and obviously Valve should have supported the game way more than they did, thats not in question.
But I feel like its not really fair to put every point CS does potentially better than valorant down because the game had lots of time. The reason is that Valorant may not have had the same amount of time but Valorant was able to take a LOT of CS established features and use those. So they already had a good base to work on, while CS especially in the competetive aspect had to build up a lot of those things first.
I played both games a lot and I can for sure say that both are good in their own way. I personally highly prefer CS though mainly because the game has a lot more depth to it. Valorant has its abilities that give the game a lot of mechanics, but things like counterstrafing, air strafing, B Hops, spray control, etc are things CS has that give the game incredible depth and replayability. This obviously isnt for everyone but its something I highly prefer.
My biggest point for CS though is the "potential" of each player. Whenever I play Valorant I have the feeling that the agent I picked lacks something, meaning that for certain situations I needed a flashbang, a smoke, a molly or whatever. When I pick Jett, I get smokes but no flashbangs, I think you get the idea. This means that in a certain situation I am at a disadvantage, to the point of having to win it by chance or not beeing able to win it regardless of what I do.
In CS every player has the exact same potential, meaning that I can do the exact same play as even a pro player if I have the required skill to pull it off. I have the same equipment as anyone else on my team. Again, this is not something everyone will prefer, but its something that I highly value and that actually keeps me from really enjoying Valorant.
Afaik the "lacking something" in every agent is a very intentional choice by Riot to encourage playing more as a team rather than as an individual. So instead of you having every utility you need you might have the smokes but have to ask a teammate to flash for you, or the other way around. Or alternatively you'd have to get creative with all the other types of utility you might have. Either way that's the justification, although it's completely understandable if it just doesn't do the trick for everyone.
You see, the point falls flat, when you realize that Valorant was able to take what was already established by CSGO and improve on it, while Valve sat around doing nothing to improve the game whatsoever. Without competition, Valve got lazy and they never gave much thought into improving the game, CS2 felt like a genuine change and a push to make the game better, but so far the experience has been subpar and not what I expected, laggy ass servers, hitreg issues, among other things. On, the other hand, I haven't really had those issues with Valorant and even if I did, it was mainly due to my own network and not the servers. And Valorant is a team based game, through and through and Riot has been trying to make that happen since the game first released, balancing agents so that certain agents don't become overpowered and just do everything on their own. It's a different style of gameplay that you either get used to or you don't, which does put off a lot of players and I can understand why, it's frustrating that you have to rely on the limited amounts of utility that is provided for a certain agent, rather than just having a utility that you can purchase and use for all agents.
@@chrzx7499 Honestly, it also adds a level of complexity and makes players really think about the situation that they are in, if you are playing smokes only and are in a clutch situation, you have to think hard and quick to win the round, which CSGO lacks, you have smokes, flashbangs and grenades, which you can all use to try and clutch a situation, which kind of feels a bit shallow, at least to me, but at the same time, I don't really mind the style of gameplay that CS has either, it's something that's been around for a long time and it's just become a norm.
Both fun games, can’t wait to play cs2. One thing Val has over cs though is you can’t get kicked from a ranked/comp match, by a 4 stack of trash you just carried to match point.
for someone who plays both, thats a really good video. im mostly on your side on many points.
for example, Imho the gunplay and utility usage feels so much better in cs.
and the fact that i can buy a skin i wanna try out and just resell it to get something else is just hella dope! In valo i would have to buy all the skins i wanna try out. ( which i technically did, riot got alota money from me)
+ the animations and stuff are too distracting. i definitely love the stickers approach in cs waaay more since it lets you personalize your guns so much more^^
As a CS player, the main reason Valorant doesn't peek my curiosity (not hating it, just not exactly interested) is the agents system. It's not because of the "magic skills" themselves or anything, but because it just reminds me of the reason I could never get into LoL, which many of my non-fps friends played and tried getting me into, and that is the plain scale of the initial learning curve to understand the game if you did not start right at the beginning with a digestable handful of characters to understand. It's not too terrible as of yet, but there is already 20+ different agents, and you need to learn how each of them work against one another, and the number's growing. By some point you get 100+ different classes, many beginning to look similar, due to lack of new ideas I suppose, but it just makes the game super hard to get into at that point, or if you decide to take a break and have to learn the game again. I know there is skill and fun to be had in this process and gameplay, but it's not something that ever interested me. CS has just a few basic guns, same util; pick your thing and you can basically come back to the game anytime, and it's virtually the same as it was. That said, I do like it when there are maps which are added/removed from rotation, because having a new map which everyone has to learn is something which boosts the experience in my personal opinion. Other than that I think the comparison is very objective and I definitely don't intend to trash Valorant as it's a well designed game and found it's generous share of players. Definately gave me more reason to try it sometime!
I like your video coming from a CS only background. You presented and compared the aspects pretty well. However, when it comes to skins and trading, I think there's a dark spot on the CS community I have not seen in any comparison video before: Scamming!
It is such an issue, there's content creators out there that make regular videos about the most recent scams and so on, it is such a tragedy IMO. (tho I've never lost anything myself)
great vid
was just wondering where i can watch the content shown in the video @12:34
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How did you change your gun to left arm
I’m with you on a lot of aspects. I play both however I personally can’t stand playing the same 2 maps every single game on cs2 now just like csgo. It’s boring to me because it becomes so repetitive. However, map design, I do lean more towards cs2 for now because they have had that time. But valorant is always changing the maps after they take them out of rotation or even while in rotation. So that’s nice.
I like cs2 in certain ways but I can’t get over having to play at 64 tick in the “NEW” cs2 after how long it’s been technically out since it’s more of an update, not a new game. You’d think they would prioritize player experience. But here we are. I also can’t stand the team killing on cs2 because people will troll on purpose after they get flustered from something that happened, and start just damaging you so you die faster, then sometimes out right kill you just because. It becomes ass and toxic.
My experience over the years is also that I see way more communication on valorant with talking/pings/quick chat, than I ever have on cs2.
I like cs2 but I think riot is doing more for their community than valve has done in 20 years. And it shows.
Riot is a predatory and abusive company that has weaponized capitalistic gain of their pro scene and their skins. I’m sorry but both are shit, and if you praise Riot of all companies I think you need to look deep within for a second there buddy.
9:47 relatable. Been wearing the same Jordan’s since 2019; still wear em today.
Really liked the clothing and buying real life things comparison to skins
Great video man. Ur production is really good
your right in alot of ways but I think Valve Cares But scared to make changes because of the community. So they watch what the community does and tires to fallow it slowly. plus vlave cares more about innovation over anything else EX sub tick.
tbh both is a great game
Nah valorant is garbage single player games are more fun than that boring trash
only unbiased video on this topic i have ever seen everyone says they are unbiased but this is the only one thats actually unbiased
things you said in the last. minute made me sub and like ya❤
keep up the great work❤️
Best take, I completely agree w u bruh, this the only one that’s not acc biased
Enjoys both games gang wya
That's the most mature comparison i've ever seen, good job.
I gotta say you got it for me. I kinda just play val and didn't mind the cs beef till I watched a short of some cs player shitting on val. Soo I wanted to see what's actually ppls take on "Valorant vs Csgo" xd
Only a val player would use super models and toddlers in the same comparison, saying the toddlers are still developing into supermodels is creepy asf.
When in comes to matchmaking, I bet if valorant or any other game for that matter allowed third party matchmaking the flaws of the official matchmaking will be so apparent
insightful and well balanced with touches of rationality, especially liked the clothes metaphor, great stuff
i have played both and while moreso playtime in cs and recently alot of CS2 i think both games are good for their audiences, valorant appeals more to a class based system and some just like the game for the artstyle, cs has always had the same skillset just varied and changed over the years, movement, everyone has the same util, economy focused (much more than val imo), the movement is my main draw to cs over all the years valorant just doesnt feel the same to me and thats okay thats why i play cs, but valorant is not a bad game because i dont like the movement, both games appeal to separate audiences and if your one of the people who can play both kudos to you! when i play valorant i have fun but then i just miss bhopping so it can be the simplest thing that drives our brains away.
The one thing i like about csgo is that every player is the same, you dont have certain powers depending on what character you choose, the only thing that matters is how familiar you are with the game. Valorant is a different take on counter strike mechanichs which i really liked, but it hasn't stuck to me as much as cs did. But i have enjoyed both games. But in the end who cares, just play what you want
Yeah, there are pros and cons to the style of gameplay that Valorant has, I don't mind it, maybe because I played Apex before playing Valorant which kind of also leans into that category, but not entirely. But, it can make playing tough when playing with difficult players who don't want to fulfill their roles.
ohne needs to see this,such a good video bro
You can bhop and air strafe in valorant but you lose speed when bhoping and yo air strafe you have to add a w input to you d or a but you gain no speed but you could do a 180 way faster. Just add in this to tell people the correct info.
the foreshadowing is crazy
Val u cant just sit and have fun u have to go i like its a ranked match no matter what mod u are playing csgo u get on half asleep and have the funnest time ever and no one wdating on without getting bullied on csgo so thats a huge plus
R.I.P CS GO
Csgos most toxic ranks imo are DMG -Supreme, such large egos and get super mad instantly. Most players give up by the third round, and flame their temamates. My man, we lost pistol round unless the enemy team royally fucks up we rnt supposed to win the next 2, CHILL OUT.
Honestly I agree with most of this, and I feel like ohnepixel shouldn't have much of a say cuz he doesn't even play valorant, he says it's shit but in reality he never touched it. It really makes no sense to me. Like brother there 2 different games from 2 different companies, you can say the same about Dota 2 and LoL but when I played Dota that was so different that it was even confusing
Ohne loves CS because of skins, that’s why he does it. Why would he like valorant, they have awful skins, no market or skin value, no personality in the skins or uniqueness like float value, wear, stickers, stat track, pattern based, name tags, etc.
There is quite literally no reason for him to get into it since skins aren’t really all that important to valorant other than for robbing their player base.
true but isn't that like a shit reason to like the game, like you can say the gameplay is different or movement or gunplay but nope its a different colored gun that makes him like it more. @@cookeez7010
@@cookeez7010then why would you spill the hate if you are not even spend 1 minute to play it? To make your hate argument stronger, play the game first.
Agree for the most part. The one thing I will point out is that you can also get what you pay for in cs when it comes to skins. There is alot of skin markets on the internet and also the steam market. There is so many skins these days in cs that surely everyone can find something that they like and is reasonably priced. But good luck getting knives for a good price.
skins. Well, more bassy skin sounds more powerful. Some skins have smaller profile, some skins have better visibility tracers and so on. Some skins just feel heavier. based purely on data it doesnt matter as nothing changes but it does. there was a game with 2 identical guns, except different skins and one of them was more bassy. Community complained that the bassier version was too OP and stats proved that the bassier version had higher kd ratio than the other gun.
It's placebo. People perform better with a skin that fits their tastes better. People say Prime gives you aimbot, but that's mainly because of all the hype that surrounds it. I own Prime and Champions and I much prefer Champions over it and I still perform well regardless of skin.
Are there any other shooters like Valo or Cs? my CPU needs some special function or smth like that and im currently banned on Valorant for queuing with a Cheater without knowing (lol) thx for any help given =)
5:44 you can do thaaat? or did the ult just missed you?
It was an old clip, so maybe you could before, but now you can't.
7:22 i South america, everyone in valorant is a pro or trash (even in causal) and in cs it mixed but toxic and chill.
replay system to check if good players are legit or just cheating is great in CSGO, Valorant on the other hand literally have no plans on implementing it
I think youre wrong. Replay is in chinese version of Val
@@miso5119well that doesn't really help if it's only in China, does it?
As someone who only plays when I've free time and tried both game I prefer Valorant more than CSGO, when I played CS I feel like I always play with people that been playing the game for 10+ years and it's not really fun for me but when I tried Valorant I've got drawn in the game, while there are obvious smurfs or experienced players in Valorant there are also a lot of new players like me, I can see their levels too so I know who's a veteran and most of the time the matches are much more balanced compared to my experience in CSGO, I play in Asia so it might be a region thing. In Valorant the community is not that harsh than CS from my experience, when I was playing the game I feel like CSGO is not for casual players who just want to play the game and treat it as a game, yes I do somehow understand the toxicity in my CS matches because of course most people would not want someone who's not good at the game on their team but I don't have a lot of free time, I have my priorities in real life too and can't just sit all day and play or practice for 10 years just to be able to compete and I'm not doing that because I'm not going pro or go streaming, there are other things that I need to do or want to do aside from playing all day, I do think that both games are good even if my experience in CSGO is not that good I can say that the game is very good, while I didn't played Counter Strike/ CS that much, the game is still like a family to me because it is very famous especially in internet cafes, I can't imagine an internet cafe without someone playing it, so I hope that CS would continue to be around even in the future, but I'm also glad that there is Valorant because as a casual player it's really good to have a lot of options to play and pass the time.
play 30-60 min per day till 1 years and you're decent as a mge and gamesense comes from repition
yeah no place for noobs in csgo and its good to not have casual players play the game we prefer it that way
I mean Asia is also just ass at CSGO so that might be your problem bro. CSGO is far more rewarding because you put in the time to get good at it. While valorant is easier to get into, you are very quickly met with a low skill ceiling and at that point it all comes down to who has been aim training for longer and who has a better PC. I don’t understand this argument of “it’s easier to get into” yeah and guitar hero is easier than picking up an actual guitar, but since when is the easier route the better one? Why are so many valorant players scared of putting in the work to get better. You do you man but I mean it when I say that you will find CS far more rewarding and exciting in the long run, I enjoyed valorant a lot when it was in beta, but I very quickly lost any want to play it because I didn’t feel this overwhelming urge to get better, the skill ceiling is visible from the get go.
@@cookeez7010 I agree with all of what you said and If you ask me which game is better, I'd say CSGO/CS 2, but on two conditions, only if it's free from cheaters (if you don't have prime) and a toxic community. But pointing out from my experience CS can be harsh to new players, and I know it's not their fault but the matchmaking's, it's unfair from both veterans and new players to get matched with each other and no one likes it, new players would not want to play with veterans and veterans would also not want to play with new players. That's why I prefer Valorant because of much better community and balanced matchmaking. I'm not saying that my answer is will not change, but right now in my opinion Valorant is a bit better compared to CS 2 if you're new to first person shooters or if you just want to play and enjoy the game as a game.
@@cookeez7010 As a Valorant player that plays the game casually too it's not that I'm afraid to put it the work, same from op, I only have 30mins to 1hour to play in a day and I want to use that time to relax and have fun after work I don't have time to practice my aim or even do some aim trainers, no offense to counter strike community but their toxicity and matchmaking too are the reasons why I shy away from the game, In Valorant having a balanced matchmaking can make my day, even if I lose I still find it fun because of having a closer and fair game against people on the same skill level as me but when I tried the new CS 2 the people there just auto headshot me and my team is very toxic too, the worst is they shot and killed me, even if I want to get good lets say it will take months or even years because I can't dedicate more time like other people into the game and if my experience will be the same thing everyday for month I'd rather just not for now, I don't want to play the best game according to the public, I want to play the game that I think is the best. I hope that you don't take this personal as I'm only talking about the general community in CS and I know you're not a toxic person, for you that is already good at the game maybe Valorant is not fun maybe because it's not challenging enough compared to CS, everyone has their own reasons why they choose what to play, CS 2, it's looking very good, I hope next time my experience will not be the same as when I've tried it.
1000 hour immortal valorant and 20 hour cs2 player here.
Shooting and movement is so much easier in CS, it feels nice and weighted maybe it’s a function of being in lower lobbies but my god is it so much easier to pop heads vs valorant and that am literally shows with all the high hs % shown at end of games for both teams. That being said is much rather play valorant just because it’s more “fun” and I love the wrinkle of agents and abilities and actually good looking skins. Also the color palette of cs is just so ugly man.
It’s also a plus I get to play with friends who are girls. Not trying to grind hundreds of hours with just sweaty dudes and I’ll stand by that
Honestly, Valorant will always be a NO from me just because of Vanguard. I played it quite a bit during closed beta, and then a few months after launch, and it was pretty fun. Gave me a taste of Siege in the CSGO format, but it always felt wrong and off. I really enjoy the abilities for the most part, but when the shooting and movement feel off, I can't touch it.
I built my first pc during COVID and I tried both games, but valorant was so much better than csgo for me because valorant is so much easier to pick up and my friends who doesn't even play FPS games can hop on and we can have fun, and it runs so much better than csgo and the best thing for me is that after playing for 3 years I have never played against a cheater.
exactly and cs players don't want casual players to have fun with them we take this game as a matter of life and death and won't like to teach a player who just want to have fun
parts of the map take is kinda slow but everything else is pretty true
I totaly agree with you.
So i have been a CS player but not as fanatic as most people, i have tried Valorant and i like it, but i gotta admit watching ohne quit the video 4 minutes in because it's not biased enough towards csgo really makes you think why people defend cs and Valve so much when Valve themselves don't care most of the time about their fans. It feels like they only care when they want more money or once in a blue moon.
Either way nice video gotta say i agree that people should try the other game for 1-2 hours before completly blocking it out their mind and only shit-talk it, people enjoy different things and that is fine and at the end of the day competition brings innovation, if cs was the sole game on top Valve could litterly not do anything all year around (like tf2) and have people praise it while bringing in millions of dollars, having Valorant take some of the market share will hopefully bring more things to both games.
Solid video once again.
4:57 Good Neon players use her sprint to Bhop
I've been playing cs2 (didnt touch csgo) and the guns just feel so good. I mostly care about if the guns feel good to shoot. I played valorant a year ago and it just wasn't for me. I'll give it another shot because I wasn't too interested when I first played it.
Same bro, I had zero interest in Valorant until like last year
I know you only briefly mentioned it but honestly the edaters in valorant have ruined the reputation of matching names to the point where my gf and I will play valorant with matching names (we've been together for 7 years we're not weird we just play together) and just get harrassed for "being edaters" even though I said literally nothing and she's sitting behind me lmao. Meanwhile matching names in csgo don't even get acknowledgement the majority of the time. I didn't really have a point just wanted to complain lol
I totally understand
waiting for Ohne Pixel to react to this
2:15 "never caught off guard, and easy to counter" he says as he Xray shreds some guy through the floor....
He should’ve been able to hear my dart coming and he was more than capable of shooting the dart before it scanned him. Skill issue on his end.
Skill issue, shoot the dart thats right infront of you lmao.
1:24 correction, Skye flash cannot be shot down.
pretty sure it can unless they recently changed it
Valorant players don’t shit on CS??? Someone hasn’t watched the last few big events live chat on TH-cam. It’s plagued with Valorant players shit talking CS and trolling saying CS copied valorant
Best comparison i’ve seen
Good video, good points. Personally I like CS just because the movement feels so much better and faster, never really liked VALORANT's base movement but its still an alright game, just not my cup of tea. As for the Riot vs Valve as a company, both have their issues and reasons for being so. Riot has the money and knows their competition so they invest heavily on new content and marketing to compete with established titles.
As for Valve, you can't really say that they are just sitting back and watching the money roll in while doing nothing. First, CSGO's meta is well defined content wise, everytime they added a new weapon or slight price change to a gun, the meta was changed heavily. CZ pocket AK update, Revolver madness, Krieg meta. Mini AK was the best pistol in the game, Revolver could do everything and Krieg made the AK obsolete. Valve knows the thin line for updating CS, and while yes they could update the servers or make a better anticheat, they are very silent on what they are working on. Secondly, the amount of people working on a game isn't defined by the higher-ups, but the actual employees themselves. Its why TF2 updates seems like only one guy is doing it and only a handful working on CSGO while DOTA gets updates constantly and more attention is brought to Steamdeck, VR etc etc. Basically what im trying to say is we have no idea when Valve started development on CS2 and how much resources moved from updating CSGO to producing a new counter strike game. For all we know they could have been making a better anti-cheat since 2016 while developing CS2.
I also just want to add that it also seems like it's ran by the community because, well, it is in a way. Valve cares and acknowledges the community by giving them the keys to create content, mainly skins and maps that could be added into the game. Just as the original CS was made by the Half-Life community, so too would CSGO be built and supported by it's own community.
@@bioethan1 Sorry you cant compare Valve ro Riot... Riot is better in every single way, shape or form...
@@sasukebyak massive L take my boy
I played valorant my hole unti cs 2,bro the chat restrictions in valorant suck so much, i enjoy cs better bc i get to play the game and don't get restricted after i insult a kid bc doesn't uses flashes
Bro’s dropping the hard R over flashes
I played valorant at 2 Times on my uncles laptop, my uncle only plays on dust 2 because he claims *I only play on simple maps* but in reality he doesn’t wanna improve, i suck at tactical shooters
your aim is so smooth
One big thing for both games is Valorants lack of customization with its view models, and Cs not rewarding players for time investment such as actual good skins, Knives etc. the way their loot box system works where you have to have a key to open them is just dumb.
Here you go kiddo, here’s some of the best affordable skins in CSGO that are far cheaper than valorant and require 0 gambling since you can just buy them in the market:
Glock-18: moonrise, winterized, nuclear garden
USP-S: Ticket to Hell, cortex, cyrex, black lotus
AK-47: Frontside Misty, Legion of Anubis, Ice Coaled, Phantom Disruptor , slate
M4A1-S: Nitro, Nightmare, Emphorosaur-s, Basilisk, Flashback
M4A4: In living color, Tooth Fairy, Spider Lily,
AWP: Atheris, PAW, Worm God, Chromatic Abberation, Duality, Morris
Almost every single one of these skins is far cheaper or somewhat cheaper than what you’d pay for it’s counter part on valorant.
@@cookeez7010now try buying a cheaper knife on csgo
@@cookeez7010 You can also sell the random things you get from the game. And then buy the skins, so you dont need to pay for it
for me personally I dont see the point of battle pass skins. the things I like about skins are sounds and relaods. also the reskins are terrible in battle pass
"I dont think any of Valorant's maps are bad"
Lotus would like to know your location
Lotus is good.
cope@@CR0WYT
Debate aside: Those are some sick clips you have in here 🔥🔥
I prefer Valorant over CS, as someone who grew up playing cs1.6.
It just feels so much better. I'm not a big fan of the graphics or the agents and the abilities, but the game just feels smoother and better.
9:14 crazy play bro, you won this round?
Yeah time ran out for the last guy.
@@CR0WYT SIUUUUUUUUUUU
I play both and i prefer the real fps rather than abilities over skills i still play valo when i wanna chill tho
I know this video is a month old, but I'd like to point out that subtick 64 tick is more accurate than 128 tick.
I prefer CS because it's a more crisp and refined game. Don't like the rng in valorant spraying, don't like the weird abilities (fine with flash/molly/smoke ones), and HATE the tagging system. If you get touched for 1hp in valorant your character suddenly can't move an inch. No possibility of getting away.
5:26 you couldntve picked a better comparison????????
"comparing supermodels with toddlers"
That just feels wrong on so many levels
I played valorant for about a year and a half and I quit a few months ago. Recently I have gotten into cs and I already like it so much more than valorant. I feel like cs is more simple and straight forward than valorant. in cs it relies on aim but in valorant it relies on tactics and ability knowledge. Like you could be a great aimer but don't know how to use abilities then you would be screwed in valorant. Also I feel like valorant is overwhelming because you got to do all these stuff with your abilities and dodge or play around the enemies abilities where in cs, you just aim and shoot with some positioning and utility knowledge. Overall I just think cs is better than valorant. Oh yeah I also forgot the skins. Valorant skins have way too much going on while cs is more simple. And to all the people saying it costs hundreds of dollars to buy knifes and stuff like that, you can sell it back when you don't want to. I personally spent about $150 on Valorant skins that I can never get my money back. Also what if I don't want to play fracture so I can just pick my own map that I can play?
Ok, that might of sounded bias to cs so here are some good things of Valorant. The maps, and the community is just a little bit better if not the same.
no cap, I don't want to play a specific character just to have fun on a certain map
I play csgo and I have no idea why anyone would spend 1,000 dollars for a knife on either game when you can save it for real things. If I opened a case and got a fade karambit or whatever I would probably just sell it for some real money.
Me too
btw skye flash cant be shot anymore
I came from Valo and hit diamond and played it from the start. Now after trying CS2 my choice is clear. CS2 is better.
facts
i think people who switch find the game they switch to better, more fresh content. not saying valorant is better i just think after a few months you should revisit valorant
I used to love csgo but now l like valorant more cuz i feel like csgo isnt good enough to keep me like valorant.
Theres a few things that made me upset while watching this video.
First skins, while it wont change anyones opinion on which game is better, you can buy skins for free in csgo, because you get a weekly case you can sell and buy cheap skins. All my guns in cs have skins i genuinely think are some of the best skins even though its like 2 dollars in total. You never have to gamble.
Next is the esports scene. Csgo's esports scene is where most of valves attention has been. I get it that csgo has been building up for 20 years but even at the start of it it was much more hype than the valorant e sport scenes now.
Third is valves attention to csgo. People often trash valve for not taking care of cs, but in reality, cs has been up and running for 20 years. Every update matters so they take it extra slow and try not to break the game. Thats why i think cs is so popular even today, cause they dont rush to solve problems, they do it slowly and well. Yes i know problems like the negev and the nova/xm1014 exist but there are plenty of other problems they are trying to fix.
Last is anti cheat. I remember someone explaining why valves anticheat is better. In short, valve is using ai to detect when someone is cheating based off the way they play instead of what they have in their pc. Its a much more time resistant anti cheat, because you never know how cheaters can get past the anti cheat, and you would constantly need to upkeep an anticheat software that looks into your pc files. But valves ai detection is better because it doesnt matter how the player cheats, he will be noticed, though not all cheaters will be detected.
All in all, what im trying to say is valve needs to keep their house of cards from tumbling so they cant rush updates or stuff like that. Also about the 64 tick thing, its because a lot of the cs community plays on crap pcs so valve needs the game to be as efficient with memory and cpu as possible for those players.
But great video :) i liked it
I prefer anti cheat that doesn’t make me disable Windows security features.
I never had to disable windows settings in either Windows 10 or 11.
@@CR0WYT Everytime I launched Valorant I got "The driver cannot load because it is incompatible with a Windows security mitigation called Hardware-Enforced Stack Protection. You can disable this security mitigation by clicking the Disable button below and rebooting the device. However, doing so will downgrade the security of your device."
@@HellSpawnRulerOfHell never had that in either Windows 10 or 11. Maybe you installed something or enabled a setting you just forgot about and Valorant is conflicting with it. Base Windows should not restrict you from playing Valorant.
I just couldn't imagine buying a skin in a game and it being worthless lmao. My CS inventory is worth 3k and I can literally sell it and just have 3k real dollars.
I agree with the cs skins thing but if I quit cs I can just sell my skins and get some profit but if i quit valorant my money is gone
valorant esports take aged like milk
EU val is a lot chiller and usually has a good spread of nationalities. Playing CS in EU (talking about north west) is shit, everytime i play its with screaming russians. maybe it is just my experience but so far I have never ran into e daters or "strange" people on Val. My only bad experience with Val was when i first started and got slated for never using abilities. Take my opinion as you will as I play and love both games but the community portion of the video confused tf out of me
about the community:
the best community in Minecraft
but to be serious, for me it's just unplayable on high ranks in CS, like 2k elo on faceit. people think of themselves as the kings of the world and they treat anyone else like shit. i haven't played valo with high rank players, so can't really tell, but for my region (Russia) valorant is better, people there is much more kind