@@Percival917 from the marketing material on their page, it looks like it'll be integration based. Since you're using their VPN they probably will keep some of your info to sell
While other weapons are whiffing, juggling gauges or stamina, or buffing themselves to unlock their "real" moveset, Lance is attacking. Always, constantly attacking.
@@Floridamangaming729 Saying that the lance is slow is like say that the greatsword is slow lmfao. It just has a different way to close gaps, unironically one of if not the most mobile weapon in the game specially in Rise.
@@TokYoYo Tbh I think people are overreacting because it was revealed alongside Long Sword. Plus, we haven't actually gotten to use the weapon hands-on yet.
What seals the lance for me as God tier is its power as an attrition weapon. You constantly lay in attacks, inflicting statuses and wearing down the Monster while it's attempts to break you down are fruitless. You aren't burning consumables, you aren't carting, and the monsters offense can barely scratch you. Lance, when played well, can out last just about everything.
Exactly right, my favorite weapon in Monster Hunter World by far. Maybe i screw up once or twice but when i'm in the zone i bare use more than one mega potion per quest.
Small correction regarding to the World's power guard. I believe that you actually take more chip damage with it than with normal guard but in exhange you get higher knockback resistance and ability to guard 360 degrees.
Funnily enough the normal counter actually has better knockback resistance then the power guard. If you block an attack that’s to strong with a normal counter you simply don’t counterattack but you don’t move an inche while power guard would get you knocked back a little bit
Remember that gen 5 lance can guard advance mid combo after any input, guard advance in any direction after an input, and cancel a high knockback state into a power guard.
@@clockwork204 have the cat shoot a mini turret on the palamute's back similar to the tanks that they have from gen 4 games or have palamute chariot the tank of the cats that'll be fun
@@plumbysaklami1678 they need to add a palamute + palico combo bonus such as the one you mentioned in upcoming update which unlocks additional combo abilities like having your palico mounting a mini ballista or gatling cannon on your palamute
Lance is by far my favourite weapon to play. Its defensive until you've practiced enough then you move around faster than any other weapon :D I love how it's the most "active" weapon as well. Most animations are short, meaning you're constantly able to re-evaluate, reposition and re-engage. Everyone should play lance for at least 50 hunts, its amazing. Sheathing your weapon is one of the most dangerous things a lance player can do :D
@@sadaharuthedog7105 insect glaive. the two weapons i always end up playing or coming back to even if I'm trying to main a different weapon for a while.
@@SuperRADLemon I think you played it really straight so it may have just come off as, like "i already did the gunlance video" vibes to ppl who weren't listening.
just realized that after bowgun, the series is gonna be over. I was really enjoying it, but I hope whatever you do next is gonna be just as RAD-pilled and Based
Bit of a correction, Anchor Rage's buff is dependent on far the monster knocks you back meaning having Guard is actually a detriment. Better to have Evade Extender in this case. Spiral Thrust is based on guarding so having Lv5 Guard benefits more.
Twin Vine is for when you're in a multiplayer hunt with 3x LBG and you're tired of chasing the monster around. Or to do silly things like launch yourself hundreds of feet into the air when a monster flies away to another area. Edit: There's no planet on which it should cost 2 Bugs.
+ guard point on hops + easy transition into a level 2 charge or triple poke combo with an enhanced first poke + effective guard level 3 that stacks with the armor skill + mini diversion that stacks with the armor skill + now, rightfully, one wirebug + nearly a full minute natural duration with a generous maximum range
"Im super rad" me, literally every time : "and humble too" Just a little bit of extra info too though, in gen 3 thanks to the advancing block and new counter strike, guard lancing was king. We needed little investment in guard skills to do really well from what I remember. In contrast, in gen 4, evade lancing was nuts. Max your evasion window and the i-frames extended just a little past the full animation, so just chaining backhops meant you were 100% invulnerable.
Imagine if instead of twin vine it was a counter that sends the hunter flying back, followed by wirebugging back into the monster which can be aimed to hit a weak spot. Essentially it's the Iceborne clutch counter but for wirebugs.
Finally an honest weapon. Saving the best for last of all the melee options. Though with the Spiral Thrust, you seemed to miss the final third heavy attack that you can also choose to do a turnaround smack if you miss your target.
As a longtime lance main i can't even begin to describe how much lance improved in World just because they add the ability to counter after the 3rd poke
14:27 note that, while power guard does significantly reduce knockback and stamina usage, it actually increases chip damage. Not a very well know fact about the move, so I can't blame you for missing it.
Just started lancing a week or so ago and god damn do I love it. It's an amazing weapon and feels so good once you start getting into the flow of it's combat. Still really learning it but already I can see the potential.
Literally the exact same for me except I just picked it up in Rise. Used it a couple of times in world and just couldn't get the hang of it but now I'm in love
Literally the exact same but in G and GU, did not understand the flow at all until way after I beat the G rank final boss. Now it's tied as my all time favorite weapon, and made monsters like Glavenus and Barioth way more fun, also made me love some monsters even more.
I think Lance really reached its peak in World. The leaping thrust as an alternative follow up to the advancing guard, the clutch claw use as a counter thrust alternative that could make up for its low damage with easy wounding and not to mention the ridiculous affinity boost it provides with the weakness exploiter skill, but above all the ability to launch a barrage of slinger ammo while always guarding, which is great for building up stagger to then knock a Wyvern over for some damage.
One thing i think it would be good to add is that the Lance had (for only few games) a unique mechanic of piercing damage, in simple words, if the hitzone has a shitty cutting hitzone but a good impact hitzone, it would do cutting damage using the impact hitzone in consideration.
Of all the hitzones in the games, that makes up like... 2. Of hundreds. And even then, you can still bounce because it was a percentage of the cutting zone, instead of switching to one or the other!
Lance is the weapon that had me completely fooled. I went into it just to be able to use against Behemoth in World not thinking it'd be fun but holy shit Lance is sooo much fun. You can really dominate a monster from the first second.
Spiral Thrust also has a 3rd hit, I think you missed it. You press X after the 2nd Dash. It has the highest MV throughout the skill. You can also change it into a back slap, lower MV, but works nicely if you overextend a bit out of the monster.
As a person who changes what weapon I play each game, I have been enjoying the heck out of the lance in rise. It feels very rewarding and fluid once you get down the combos. There are so many tiny optimizations that can be performed and having the switch skills also make it have a good variety even for its seemingly simplistic pokes. Have to say I'm very delighted to be using it and thankful you covered it the way you did in this video. Keep up the good work.
The lance was a major reason I got into MonHun back in FU. Every game back then was "sword, BIG sword, and axe" Spear and Shield caught my attention, and the game kept me coming back. I started with the lance and eventually I got to main it in Rise. 300hrs at the moment. I use other weapons too and would rate Rise Lance a B compared to other Rise weapons.
Interesting factabout Tri's lance; If you used the Wii motion controls, the counter happened by titlting the wiimote to the left and interestingly enough it was actually much faster to counter with the weapon because of this. Because counter generally required you to press "guard" before the counter motion actually happens, even if the counter inputs were executed perfectly on the controller it was still quite a bit slower.. So the Wiimote was far superior in this instance. This however did change in 3U version.
Power guard actually increases chip damage instead of reducing it. The advantages are 360 coverage, greatly reduced knockback, and multiple options out of it, two of which have mind's eye.
14:25 the power guard in World actually takes *increased* chip damage compared to regular guard Edit: also, a big advantage of power guard is that it's manual counter thrust can be aimed 360 degrees, so you can use it to still punish monster charges or other attacks that leave the monster to your side or behind you Finally, Guard Up does not allow a shield to block every attack. There are a few special attacks, including all pin attacks, that cannot be locked even with guard up
I like Lance cause it's consistent damage. Your shield is so good that you can just tank every attack and keep on poking even if it has lower damage relative to other weapons. My main is CB which is great for damage spiking unless you whiff a lot (which I do) then DPS isn't too high. Lance is a super comfy weapon
This has probably already been suggested but wouldn’t it be cool to see a history of the frontier exclusive weapons, even if there might not be as much to talk about, or just one big video about how frontier weapons differed from their main series versions.
Little late, but a couple of things about twin vine that were a little easy to miss. It reduces knockback significantly when connected to the monster as well as reducing stamina cost. Also, the jump you can do actually has invincibility frames making it a good move-in/dodge tool. it will also activate faster if you initiate the jump right before an attack, causing you to block the hit and jump immediately after.
The lance is unpopular because people who have never used the lance assume the lance is only for defense. Little do they know the lance outputs some of the highest constant damage of any weapon.
since sun break is coming up i hope they rework twin vine, something like attaching it to the end of the lance so that it has more range or something simple. the only thing you can really do now to almost guarantee that it will hit is doing a guarded advance then twin vine
Lance is my first love and true main of the series. It's a weapon that I can depend on to kill the monster effectively with minimal risk if time is not a factor.
The lance just fits with me perfectly, I remember I had to force myself into using other weapons because I didn't want to become completely reliant on it
A little "hidden" tech about MHW lance (and gunlance too) is that you can aim with L2/LT while your shield is up, meaning that you can do side/backwards guard dashes and also longhops out of neutral instead of after an attack, this also lets you aim the Wyvernblast of the gunlance. And also (unless I misunderstood) 14:23 Power Guard actually increases chip damage, so yeah, be careful when guarding big attacks
I'd like to point a couple of things out. The first is what's probably the biggest use for power guard outside of tanking multihits: canceling block recoil. Because you're able to follow up with a power guard after blocking any heavy attack, the need for higher levels of guard is negated. Furthermore, health augments in world also negated the chip damage from the weapon. Another little-known fact about power guard is its inherent guard up after holding the stance long enough, which lets you tank certain unblockable attacks. The second, more important point to discuss is how lance was used in older games, notably gen and 4u. In 4u, the skill evasion +3 granted a stupid amount of s for any dodge, including backhops. Backhops, coincidentially, also lasted as long as those s before you could activate another. This means that chaining 3 backhops together would let you through almost any attack. This completely negated the need for a shield, and thus, evade lancing was born. In Generations, the evasion skill was nerfed to 2 levels. However, thanks to the addition of hunter arts, specifically absolute evasion and absolute readiness, which granted a ton of s, and enraged guard, which provided a massive attack boost, evade lancing is still powerful to this day, perhaps even surpassing 4u lance. Striker lance's charge finisher has a whopping 70 mv, and paired with the hunter art gauge boost from deviant weapons and striker style, allowed lancers to basically spam hunter arts. This was actually buffed in gen ultimate, as sp mode gives striker style natural hunter art regen. Adept lance, although not as popular, is still used by a large portion of lancers in both generations and rise. This, much like evade lancing, negated the need for guard skills. However, instead of relying on s, adept lance changed the standard guard into an adept guard, which, after blocking any attack, could be followed up with a cross slash, a sidestep, or another guard. While this seems just as effective as evade lancing, it is much more difficult to time an adept guard, and it's harder to chain into one from an attack. Lastly, tanky/traditional lance is the final prevailing play style, and focuses on guard skills and counters. While survivability is highest with this style, damage output is low, as time attacking, as well as offensive skills, are traded for defense.
Just a quick note on power guard in world. While it does not drain stamina when blocking, you conversely take more chip damage. This makes it much worse when blocking multi-hit as compared to simply blocking or guard dashing. Essentially it's there to block big hits that you don't have enough guard in your set for normally or if you don't have enough stamina at that moment in the fight.
The adept block is my favourite mechanic introduced in Gen and is probably my favourite mechanic in the entire series. I wish Rise's Insta-Block did it justice, but it didn't as much as I hoped. It also can't be understated how good Enraged Guard really was. It was basically a free Adrenaline +2 on top of your set. It was like the person who developed the Lance in Gen just smashed their keyboard when making it.
Hurray some love for the lance :D Not sure if you wanna hear about this, but there were a few things that you missed: The swipe gives you „super armor“ so you can ignore things like long swords and switch axes (I don’t know since when it does that but I’m pretty sure it does that at least since 4th gen) If you receive heavy knockback that moves you backwards you can enter the power guard by pressing X/A/B The midair thrust you can do from twin vine is actually a bit stronger that a regular midair thrust (motion value of 40 instead of 30 I think) The shield charge can also perform a thrusting finisher by pressing A instead of X
I am a Bow main but Lance is my secondary main weapon. Followed by the SnS and then the GS. I like the Lance a lot but for some reason I absolutely hate using it against Brute Wyverns. I don't know why but when I go in with a Lance versus any Brute Wyvern it always turns out to be a bad time. I have no problem using it when going against Flying Wyverns, Elder Dragons or any other monster type. It is just always Brute Wyverns for some reason
@@Kasaaz I imagine its because that those with a build similar to Mitsune slide circles around with those who use slower moving weapons? I wouldn't know since I am still trying to save for a Switch. I thought about it and I think my problems with a Lance when facing Brute Wyverns is because they are tall and a lot of their attacks come from high angles (Brachy's punches, Uragaan chin slam) and a Lance only blocks things that come from the front. So if you are close to the monster the hitbox of the attack can get behind the shield and hit you directly.
@@dianslabbert504 Yeah, you just spent the whole fight yelling, "COME BACK HERE!" as they slide or move away to launch projectiles at you. Mizu and Sonmacanth and even Royal Ludroth will do it. It is also nice because you can use it to hop over Somnacanth's sleep 'beam' thing where it slowly spins.
About Anchor Rage, the damage boost seems to be based on knockback rather than damage, which is why the skill guard is not recommended if you use anchor rage.
A bit of an adition: The hability to do the counter stance after the last attack in the triple poke combo has been brought back in World and it still persists in Rise. It's one of the reasons why the weapon felt so good in the 5th generation. Also in Tri and 3U, Lance was really the king of underwater combat since positioning wasn't that big of a deal and you could just stay there and block/counter every attack, and because lance pokes are really precise it made for a really easy time underwater.
I'd say the lance is the #2 most iconic weapon of Monster Hunter, just behind the great sword. The lance weapon pose (shown on many of the box covers of the game) is on the same level as the Michael Jordan basketball logo, when you see it you simply think "Monster Hunter"
Godly retrospective for a godly weapon. I do have a question, do you plan on changing your previous weapon history thumbnails more in line with the more recent ones to maintain consistency or nah?
Fun Fact: In Rise.. the damage bonus you get from Anchor Rage isn't based on the damage or power of the incoming attack... it's based on the KNOCKBACK of it... So powerful roars actually give the highest bonus despite dealing no damage. In addition to this it means that the damage bonus is inversely affected by Guard armor skill, if you have higher levels of guard you'll get a smaller bonus. The skill to take instead if you want to take high levels of Guard is the replacement Spiral Thrust... Spiral Thrust cannot activate at all if the attack has too much knockback so it gets very much better with Guard.
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While other weapons are whiffing, juggling gauges or stamina, or buffing themselves to unlock their "real" moveset, Lance is attacking. Always, constantly attacking.
Scripture from the Church of lance. Book 1, Chapter 1 verses 1&2.
Yea but id rather not be as slow as a basarios.
@@Floridamangaming729 evade lancing is a thing my guy
@@Floridamangaming729 lance, at least in gen 5, has a ton of mobility, you just need to know how to use it.
@@Floridamangaming729 Saying that the lance is slow is like say that the greatsword is slow lmfao.
It just has a different way to close gaps, unironically one of if not the most mobile weapon in the game specially in Rise.
Lance is for when you want to stand in front of a monster and say, "No."
Broke: Gunlance is a Lance with a gun attached
Woke: Lance is a Gunlance with no gun
Bloke: lance is a gunlance with piercing damage modifier. Gunlance is an OP lance in bomber hands.
Millennial: Lance
Gen Z: Gunlance
Lance is only for absolute kings. That's why it's the least popular weapon, most people aren't cool enough to handle it
@@onerandomguy4832 he's right - Lance Main
*insert Gigachad picture*
@@onerandomguy4832 🤡
he is right
I’m trying to tell myself this even after the disastrous Sunbreak update video :(
@@TokYoYo Tbh I think people are overreacting because it was revealed alongside Long Sword.
Plus, we haven't actually gotten to use the weapon hands-on yet.
What seals the lance for me as God tier is its power as an attrition weapon. You constantly lay in attacks, inflicting statuses and wearing down the Monster while it's attempts to break you down are fruitless. You aren't burning consumables, you aren't carting, and the monsters offense can barely scratch you. Lance, when played well, can out last just about everything.
Exactly right, my favorite weapon in Monster Hunter World by far. Maybe i screw up once or twice but when i'm in the zone i bare use more than one mega potion per quest.
Playing lance makes me feel like a brick wall and I love it
Small correction regarding to the World's power guard. I believe that you actually take more chip damage with it than with normal guard but in exhange you get higher knockback resistance and ability to guard 360 degrees.
Funnily enough the normal counter actually has better knockback resistance then the power guard. If you block an attack that’s to strong with a normal counter you simply don’t counterattack but you don’t move an inche while power guard would get you knocked back a little bit
Someone has uttered the words that shall not be spoken together "Medium" and "Bowgun" next together
Remember that gen 5 lance can guard advance mid combo after any input, guard advance in any direction after an input, and cancel a high knockback state into a power guard.
If there's one weapon I'd say is the most fun when mastered, it has to be the lance
I wish that you could use your dog to charge the monster with your lance like jousting
I hope they add dog/cat combo stuff like that in the G-Rank expansion (if that's going to be a thing).
@@clockwork204 have the cat shoot a mini turret on the palamute's back similar to the tanks that they have from gen 4 games or have palamute chariot the tank of the cats that'll be fun
@@plumbysaklami1678 they need to add a palamute + palico combo bonus such as the one you mentioned in upcoming update which unlocks additional combo abilities like having your palico mounting a mini ballista or gatling cannon on your palamute
I have good news for wilds
Lance is by far my favourite weapon to play. Its defensive until you've practiced enough then you move around faster than any other weapon :D I love how it's the most "active" weapon as well. Most animations are short, meaning you're constantly able to re-evaluate, reposition and re-engage. Everyone should play lance for at least 50 hunts, its amazing. Sheathing your weapon is one of the most dangerous things a lance player can do :D
Lance hard carried me when I was trying to clear chaos gore magala in 4u and it has been one of my two staple weapons ever since.
The other?
@@sadaharuthedog7105 insect glaive. the two weapons i always end up playing or coming back to even if I'm trying to main a different weapon for a while.
"Imagine a weapon that's like the gunlance but without the gun part" is such a funny fucking opening line. 10/10
LOL
@@SuperRADLemon Imagine, if you will, an electric toothbrush... but it's not electric??? HUH?!?
@@Moosebones no one appreciated this line tbh
@@SuperRADLemon I think you played it really straight so it may have just come off as, like "i already did the gunlance video" vibes to ppl who weren't listening.
@@Moosebones my biggest flaw is playing jokes so straight people take it seriously and get mad at me
just realized that after bowgun, the series is gonna be over. I was really enjoying it, but I hope whatever you do next is gonna be just as RAD-pilled and Based
Every video Rad makes is based.
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@@gamecavalier3230 awesome >:)
In rise i know it as "the weapon I see no one use"
that's because we're all playing single player to avoid tripping
Yeah, the Insect Glaive as well
@@lightbrand_ the wrath of long sword has affected us all.
Its my main but its kind of a pain to play it in multyplayer lol
We are to fast for your eyes to follow
Bit of a correction, Anchor Rage's buff is dependent on far the monster knocks you back meaning having Guard is actually a detriment. Better to have Evade Extender in this case.
Spiral Thrust is based on guarding so having Lv5 Guard benefits more.
Oh see I missed that. Thank you!
@@SuperRADLemon Don't feel too bad. I've got over a hundred hours of Rise Lance and didn't realize that nuance to Anchor Rage.
it's been a year, but this was patched right?
@@realenew it was indeed patched and its 100% based on the damage of the attack you were hit with. Guard is no longer a detriment. 💖
Wish you talked about the evade Lance meta in Tri 🥺 great vid though as always
Unknowledgable video. That was the most important era
I’m new to the Lance gang but once I really gave it the chance it deserved it clicked immediately. This is where it’s at.
Twinvine is nuts, bc it also gives you 5 lvls of guard, freeing up your build entirely for dmg/utility
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Lance: "oh no i lost the monster, but thats okay, because the monster is attached to a string so I don't lose it"
Twin Vine is for when you're in a multiplayer hunt with 3x LBG and you're tired of chasing the monster around. Or to do silly things like launch yourself hundreds of feet into the air when a monster flies away to another area.
Edit: There's no planet on which it should cost 2 Bugs.
I liked for the edit 😂 1 year later
It got buffed to one Wirebug in Sunbreak, though.
@@TornaitSuperBird That's great news, two bugs was too much for it
+ guard point on hops
+ easy transition into a level 2 charge or triple poke combo with an enhanced first poke
+ effective guard level 3 that stacks with the armor skill
+ mini diversion that stacks with the armor skill
+ now, rightfully, one wirebug
+ nearly a full minute natural duration with a generous maximum range
IB Lance was the one weapon I managed to convince to friends to near main till the end of the game. 5th gen definitely brought some magic with it
One of the last to be covered, just like how Capcom sees it 🥲
You're in a King of the Iron Fist tournament and no one has been thrown off a cliff yet? Smh.
"Poke, poke, poke, hop" is the beat that will never leave my mind as long as I live
Amen brother
"Im super rad"
me, literally every time : "and humble too"
Just a little bit of extra info too though, in gen 3 thanks to the advancing block and new counter strike, guard lancing was king. We needed little investment in guard skills to do really well from what I remember. In contrast, in gen 4, evade lancing was nuts. Max your evasion window and the i-frames extended just a little past the full animation, so just chaining backhops meant you were 100% invulnerable.
Whats rhe best hunting style for guardlancing in GU? Adept?
Imagine if instead of twin vine it was a counter that sends the hunter flying back, followed by wirebugging back into the monster which can be aimed to hit a weak spot. Essentially it's the Iceborne clutch counter but for wirebugs.
You forgot to mention Anchor Rage doesn't work well with Guard while Spiral Thrust does.
Finally an honest weapon. Saving the best for last of all the melee options. Though with the Spiral Thrust, you seemed to miss the final third heavy attack that you can also choose to do a turnaround smack if you miss your target.
As a longtime lance main i can't even begin to describe how much lance improved in World just because they add the ability to counter after the 3rd poke
14:27 note that, while power guard does significantly reduce knockback and stamina usage, it actually increases chip damage. Not a very well know fact about the move, so I can't blame you for missing it.
Just started lancing a week or so ago and god damn do I love it. It's an amazing weapon and feels so good once you start getting into the flow of it's combat. Still really learning it but already I can see the potential.
Im gonna be sad when this ends
Don't worry. He'll come up with something else to dive into🙂.
@@RPGeenius the history of monsters lol
I thought Lance was clunky when I started and never touched it for a long time. I picked it up in Iceborne's endgame and I fell in love with it
Literally the exact same for me except I just picked it up in Rise. Used it a couple of times in world and just couldn't get the hang of it but now I'm in love
Literally the exact same but in G and GU, did not understand the flow at all until way after I beat the G rank final boss. Now it's tied as my all time favorite weapon, and made monsters like Glavenus and Barioth way more fun, also made me love some monsters even more.
I think Lance really reached its peak in World.
The leaping thrust as an alternative follow up to the advancing guard, the clutch claw use as a counter thrust alternative that could make up for its low damage with easy wounding and not to mention the ridiculous affinity boost it provides with the weakness exploiter skill, but above all the ability to launch a barrage of slinger ammo while always guarding, which is great for building up stagger to then knock a Wyvern over for some damage.
One thing i think it would be good to add is that the Lance had (for only few games) a unique mechanic of piercing damage, in simple words, if the hitzone has a shitty cutting hitzone but a good impact hitzone, it would do cutting damage using the impact hitzone in consideration.
Of all the hitzones in the games, that makes up like... 2. Of hundreds. And even then, you can still bounce because it was a percentage of the cutting zone, instead of switching to one or the other!
@@ShupperDupper it's pretty much useless, but it is a unique feature.
Lance is the weapon that had me completely fooled. I went into it just to be able to use against Behemoth in World not thinking it'd be fun but holy shit Lance is sooo much fun. You can really dominate a monster from the first second.
Lance for life! I feel like a centaur when I'm charging forward
Minotaur?
No centaur, think jousting
Spiral Thrust also has a 3rd hit, I think you missed it.
You press X after the 2nd Dash. It has the highest MV throughout the skill. You can also change it into a back slap, lower MV, but works nicely if you overextend a bit out of the monster.
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Playing mhfu and mhp3rd on a phone, lance and dash juice instantly becomes my best friend
As a person who changes what weapon I play each game, I have been enjoying the heck out of the lance in rise. It feels very rewarding and fluid once you get down the combos. There are so many tiny optimizations that can be performed and having the switch skills also make it have a good variety even for its seemingly simplistic pokes. Have to say I'm very delighted to be using it and thankful you covered it the way you did in this video. Keep up the good work.
The lance was a major reason I got into MonHun back in FU.
Every game back then was "sword, BIG sword, and axe"
Spear and Shield caught my attention, and the game kept me coming back.
I started with the lance and eventually I got to main it in Rise. 300hrs at the moment.
I use other weapons too and would rate Rise Lance a B compared to other Rise weapons.
Lance is definitely my fav. Great video, helped me understand some things as someone who has only played gen5.
Interesting factabout Tri's lance;
If you used the Wii motion controls, the counter happened by titlting the wiimote to the left and interestingly enough it was actually much faster to counter with the weapon because of this.
Because counter generally required you to press "guard" before the counter motion actually happens, even if the counter inputs were executed perfectly on the controller it was still quite a bit slower..
So the Wiimote was far superior in this instance. This however did change in 3U version.
Lance is the only reason I beat tempered Xenojiva back when he released.
Guard up, heat resistance, and guard 5 basically made him a joke.
Correction: Power Guard makes you take EXTRA chip damage but guarding in this way will drain zero stamina once an attack is blocked.
This baby getting me through GU, love me some lance
Been binge re-watching these and am honestly invested in the algorithm plot
I double lance back hopped right into this video. I love these history vids!
Call this the new Monster Hunter game cause with a notification this early I had to *Rise* to the occasion.
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I know it's not the most popular but I really like the lance, it's very fun I don't understand why people don't like it.
People think this weapon is slow and tanky, but an experienced lancer in any gen (except for Rise and maybe World) can put up some pretty quick times.
Lance: for pacifists who want to stand next to monsters and be friends.
Blocking fatalis flames with that one "super guard" must have been cool
Almost to the end of this long journey. First the history of monster hunter. Then frontier. Now the weapons. Whats next i wonder?
Power guard actually increases chip damage instead of reducing it. The advantages are 360 coverage, greatly reduced knockback, and multiple options out of it, two of which have mind's eye.
I'm so glad that you're going to make a medium bowl gun video thank you.
Very glad we say poke otherwise I'd be telling my Lance main friends how great they are at thrusting
your music taste.... I love every single song you had playing
14:25 the power guard in World actually takes *increased* chip damage compared to regular guard
Edit: also, a big advantage of power guard is that it's manual counter thrust can be aimed 360 degrees, so you can use it to still punish monster charges or other attacks that leave the monster to your side or behind you
Finally, Guard Up does not allow a shield to block every attack. There are a few special attacks, including all pin attacks, that cannot be locked even with guard up
I like Lance cause it's consistent damage. Your shield is so good that you can just tank every attack and keep on poking even if it has lower damage relative to other weapons. My main is CB which is great for damage spiking unless you whiff a lot (which I do) then DPS isn't too high. Lance is a super comfy weapon
This has probably already been suggested but wouldn’t it be cool to see a history of the frontier exclusive weapons, even if there might not be as much to talk about, or just one big video about how frontier weapons differed from their main series versions.
He already talked about those extensively in his video series about Frontier, he even talks about some of the exclusive moves for each weapon there.
@@GadgetGabe i completely forgot
Little late, but a couple of things about twin vine that were a little easy to miss.
It reduces knockback significantly when connected to the monster as well as reducing stamina cost. Also, the jump you can do actually has invincibility frames making it a good move-in/dodge tool. it will also activate faster if you initiate the jump right before an attack, causing you to block the hit and jump immediately after.
Wonderfully done showcase of the lance's changes, man.
The lance is unpopular because people who have never used the lance assume the lance is only for defense. Little do they know the lance outputs some of the highest constant damage of any weapon.
4:59 btw in mh2dos (jp release only) you can only do it once regardless of any direction
since sun break is coming up i hope they rework twin vine, something like attaching it to the end of the lance so that it has more range or something simple. the only thing you can really do now to almost guarantee that it will hit is doing a guarded advance then twin vine
Lance Gang is here
Lance is my first love and true main of the series. It's a weapon that I can depend on to kill the monster effectively with minimal risk if time is not a factor.
The lance just fits with me perfectly, I remember I had to force myself into using other weapons because I didn't want to become completely reliant on it
That Tekken bit got a chuckle out of me.
Dps doesn't really matter when you never have to stop attacking
A little "hidden" tech about MHW lance (and gunlance too) is that you can aim with L2/LT while your shield is up, meaning that you can do side/backwards guard dashes and also longhops out of neutral instead of after an attack, this also lets you aim the Wyvernblast of the gunlance. And also (unless I misunderstood) 14:23 Power Guard actually increases chip damage, so yeah, be careful when guarding big attacks
I'd like to point a couple of things out. The first is what's probably the biggest use for power guard outside of tanking multihits: canceling block recoil. Because you're able to follow up with a power guard after blocking any heavy attack, the need for higher levels of guard is negated. Furthermore, health augments in world also negated the chip damage from the weapon. Another little-known fact about power guard is its inherent guard up after holding the stance long enough, which lets you tank certain unblockable attacks.
The second, more important point to discuss is how lance was used in older games, notably gen and 4u. In 4u, the skill evasion +3 granted a stupid amount of s for any dodge, including backhops. Backhops, coincidentially, also lasted as long as those s before you could activate another. This means that chaining 3 backhops together would let you through almost any attack. This completely negated the need for a shield, and thus, evade lancing was born.
In Generations, the evasion skill was nerfed to 2 levels. However, thanks to the addition of hunter arts, specifically absolute evasion and absolute readiness, which granted a ton of s, and enraged guard, which provided a massive attack boost, evade lancing is still powerful to this day, perhaps even surpassing 4u lance. Striker lance's charge finisher has a whopping 70 mv, and paired with the hunter art gauge boost from deviant weapons and striker style, allowed lancers to basically spam hunter arts. This was actually buffed in gen ultimate, as sp mode gives striker style natural hunter art regen.
Adept lance, although not as popular, is still used by a large portion of lancers in both generations and rise. This, much like evade lancing, negated the need for guard skills. However, instead of relying on s, adept lance changed the standard guard into an adept guard, which, after blocking any attack, could be followed up with a cross slash, a sidestep, or another guard. While this seems just as effective as evade lancing, it is much more difficult to time an adept guard, and it's harder to chain into one from an attack.
Lastly, tanky/traditional lance is the final prevailing play style, and focuses on guard skills and counters. While survivability is highest with this style, damage output is low, as time attacking, as well as offensive skills, are traded for defense.
Whoa, never imagined you'd make a video on my favourite weapon, the poke sword
Entered the Tekken tourney did ya?
Well You're Leroy so you'll be fine
Just a quick note on power guard in world. While it does not drain stamina when blocking, you conversely take more chip damage. This makes it much worse when blocking multi-hit as compared to simply blocking or guard dashing. Essentially it's there to block big hits that you don't have enough guard in your set for normally or if you don't have enough stamina at that moment in the fight.
The adept block is my favourite mechanic introduced in Gen and is probably my favourite mechanic in the entire series. I wish Rise's Insta-Block did it justice, but it didn't as much as I hoped.
It also can't be understated how good Enraged Guard really was. It was basically a free Adrenaline +2 on top of your set. It was like the person who developed the Lance in Gen just smashed their keyboard when making it.
Hurray some love for the lance :D
Not sure if you wanna hear about this, but there were a few things that you missed:
The swipe gives you „super armor“ so you can ignore things like long swords and switch axes (I don’t know since when it does that but I’m pretty sure it does that at least since 4th gen)
If you receive heavy knockback that moves you backwards you can enter the power guard by pressing X/A/B
The midair thrust you can do from twin vine is actually a bit stronger that a regular midair thrust (motion value of 40 instead of 30 I think)
The shield charge can also perform a thrusting finisher by pressing A instead of X
I am a Bow main but Lance is my secondary main weapon. Followed by the SnS and then the GS. I like the Lance a lot but for some reason I absolutely hate using it against Brute Wyverns. I don't know why but when I go in with a Lance versus any Brute Wyvern it always turns out to be a bad time.
I have no problem using it when going against Flying Wyverns, Elder Dragons or any other monster type. It is just always Brute Wyverns for some reason
Leviathans are why Lance has Twin Vine. They're so annoying otherwise.
@@Kasaaz I imagine its because that those with a build similar to Mitsune slide circles around with those who use slower moving weapons?
I wouldn't know since I am still trying to save for a Switch.
I thought about it and I think my problems with a Lance when facing Brute Wyverns is because they are tall and a lot of their attacks come from high angles (Brachy's punches, Uragaan chin slam) and a Lance only blocks things that come from the front. So if you are close to the monster the hitbox of the attack can get behind the shield and hit you directly.
@@dianslabbert504 Yeah, you just spent the whole fight yelling, "COME BACK HERE!" as they slide or move away to launch projectiles at you. Mizu and Sonmacanth and even Royal Ludroth will do it. It is also nice because you can use it to hop over Somnacanth's sleep 'beam' thing where it slowly spins.
About Anchor Rage, the damage boost seems to be based on knockback rather than damage, which is why the skill guard is not recommended if you use anchor rage.
A bit of an adition:
The hability to do the counter stance after the last attack in the triple poke combo has been brought back in World and it still persists in Rise. It's one of the reasons why the weapon felt so good in the 5th generation. Also in Tri and 3U, Lance was really the king of underwater combat since positioning wasn't that big of a deal and you could just stay there and block/counter every attack, and because lance pokes are really precise it made for a really easy time underwater.
Lance is Love, Lance is Life
"Imagine the gunlance without the gun" Alright... I'm intrigued.
Go on
I'd say the lance is the #2 most iconic weapon of Monster Hunter, just behind the great sword. The lance weapon pose (shown on many of the box covers of the game) is on the same level as the Michael Jordan basketball logo, when you see it you simply think "Monster Hunter"
17:40 on top of that, skilbind anchor rage only last 10 freaking seconds... this is nothing
Time for more monhun history!
Really hope Magnet Spike soon and how its related to the shelved idea Wyvernian Boomerang
Why didn't you cover evade lancing in MH4U!? It literally makes you immortal.
I'm here for the mandatory lance lecture before wilds is released
SuperRAD is fighting Akuma?! Whelp now we see why you needed a new controller😲
Kept us waiting, huh?
Good luck in the King of Iron Fist Tournament my dude, watch out for lightning-imbued uppercuts!
Thanks! Will do!
when I want the job done right I get the lance when I am just messing around I use everything else
Godly retrospective for a godly weapon. I do have a question, do you plan on changing your previous weapon history thumbnails more in line with the more recent ones to maintain consistency or nah?
how in the actual FLIPIN crap am I late for this????best video so far, obviously
Fun Fact: In Rise.. the damage bonus you get from Anchor Rage isn't based on the damage or power of the incoming attack... it's based on the KNOCKBACK of it... So powerful roars actually give the highest bonus despite dealing no damage.
In addition to this it means that the damage bonus is inversely affected by Guard armor skill, if you have higher levels of guard you'll get a smaller bonus.
The skill to take instead if you want to take high levels of Guard is the replacement Spiral Thrust... Spiral Thrust cannot activate at all if the attack has too much knockback so it gets very much better with Guard.
YOOOOO LANCE VIDEO ? FINALLY !
i can't wait to see what sunbreak adds to the lance! It better be some fun shit like twin vine.
I loved lance since 3u demo the armor and lance looked so cool so I tried it and loved it