GSWJ - The Ultimate Showdown: Boucher BG52 vs Martin D41. Gentlemen, To Your Corners!
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I was on the fence til I heard the strumming and the capo sounds. That pushed me in the Martin camp .
My vote is for the D41. Thanks for the comparison!
WOW that Martin ! She Special For sure!
The strings on the Boucher are supporting each other like voices in a great choir. As a result, the sound is better balanced and rich in stacked overtones. Sometimes the bass strings on the Martin overpower the treble strings, and they don't always sing together.
Martin won in my ears
You wrong
You scored a D41 , that`s freaking bad ass . Good on you man .
How come I missed this channel before? This is an incredibly truthful, inspiring, soul-warming approach to any type of review . Simply fantastic ! Thanks JP.
I have had 2 D-41 Martins and they are awesome , but that Boucher is unbelievable , wish I had one of each and all of them ! Love you and all your stuff JP !
Ya know something JP. When you say you love us, I believe it. I also believe you're reviews and trust your word. I surely appreciate you and all you stand for. Thanks for just being you.
I appreciate that
Egmond. Aaaah. Now thats a guitar. A laminate dream. I bought it 69. Sounds great now. If your fingers don't bleed...its no good.😁😷🥴
Agreed, you can feel the love and care. Just discovered this channel today, and I’m eager to see more!
I gotta go with th3 martin. Particularly when strummed, much fuller sound.
I’d have to go with the Martin in this demo. I still find the Martin projects a thickness and distinct tonal character that I don’t hear from the a lot of competitors. I personally own a 2006 HD-28 that even when compared to a D-45 in my living room the HD-28 had more volume and bottom end. It’s an absolute cannon. However the Boucher did sound fabulous. But may I also add that if I could play guitar like J.P Cormier a plywood guitar would sound great.
The Boucher sounds darker to me almost like a D-18
The Boucher is much better over all. The Martin has a muddy bottom but that is the "Martin" sound. You get it even more on a D35. Which is my opinion is the best Martin there is. You can make that Boucher sound like the Martin with the right pick but you will never get that Martin to sound like the Boucher.
Preferred the Martin sound ever so slightly
Would love to see a Yamaha LL56 in the mix. That said, Boucher seems cleaner, Martin seems deeper.
I'm just an ole hacker, and both those gitboxes sound beautiful..
I've had many guitars in my hands over the years...
I've met many great guitar players Tommy emmanuel who I consider the best of the best,
And he has said, play whatever guitar makes you want to play...
Everyone has a different ear and desire ..
Keep on pickin n grinnin folks
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Congratulations on the dream guitar man!! Thanks for all you do and your wonderful music.
The Martin had a more rich, crisp tone in my opinion.
Another great episode. Thank you
They are both glorious guitars. I chose Boucher over most of the competition for its musical qualities, but also in no small part because it is made in Canada. I have BG-52.
Your the 1 that changed my thinking on this thank you . And your exactly right on the money.
Boucher, hands down. I totally agree, Martin has the history and nostalgia, but Boucher has the quality of wood and craftsmanship that shines throughout their lineup. Had the privilege of having a great conversation with J.P. at the 12th Fret in Toronto after a great showcasing of a huge variety of Boucher guitars. When you hear them live and play them, you'll know. Thanks for sharing, keep the strumming coming.
I'm glad you express your opinion. Many don't when comparing. Wish I was there in the room. As delivered via youtube and your mic I liked the Martin more. Both sounded great.
Your paintings always create the aura of what you make .
Martin has a little more balanced tone, Boucher is a bit treble. I'd go Martin but a Santa Cruz got my heart.
Thank you JP! Two great guitars! A comparaison that many have waited for. An interesting factor to consider is the age of both guitars. The Boucher seems to be only a few months old. The Martin is at least four years old. The Boucher is still pretty “green” so still a lot of time to open and settle.
Thank you very much JP!
The Boucher top is torrified though
My dream guitar when I was young was an HD28 Martin which my husband bought for me in 2004. I prized it until it started to lose some of its character and finally let loose the plastic binding. I had that repaired and promptly sold it. I since have bought a custom OM built by a luthier near me that shamed the Martin. It’s truly in the builder. My luthier briefly apprenticed with Erwin Somogyi and the tone and sustain is ethereal. Thanks for the work you do JP
That D41 sounds magnificent ; the Boucher to my ears sounds close to a D28 wich has always been my favourite but my Lord that D41 is something special..
It’s what our ears are used, a matter of taste:)
Sir you did earn my sub, both guitars epic!
LOVED IT AGAIN JOHN !!! ❤❤🤘
I bought my dream guitar, a Martin D41 in 1972. Two years later I played a Gallagher G70 that blew the Martin into the weeds, and then into Jerry Jeff Walkers hands. My experience was much like yours in this video. I really enjoyed it!
The way you play my friend, you deserve any guitar in the world, at any price ❤ and keep on with your great eye opening comparisons. Cheers
Oh baby this is gonna be a good one
Great video as are all your videos. Both sound great hard to choose. Martin wins by a hair. Of course I might feel different if I heard them in person. Thanks for all you do.
The first demo of playing was a wonderful buttery sound by Martin. I’d choose that one.
...mmm...buttery....
Such great videos, Thank you from Moses Lake Washinton
Totally agree buddy! Well done.
On full stereo Jvc system I’m hearing a warmer beautifully toned Martin when strumming. The Boucher is slightly more articulate which gives it a colder tone blend when strumming.
Boucher has more punch on the bottom and top in finger style.
Regular picking they seemed pretty even.
I’d have to play them personally if I were to deciding to buy.
just starting the video now, but I fee like it's about to get lit. two nice guitars here.
Have to go with the Martin as I like the deeper richer tone, however I think the Boucher has better note separation and more defined.
Your playing appears so effortless. Both are superb instruments.
I wonder if the Martin will open up with play?
I think we have the right man to do it.
This was quite the demonstration ! Thank you. I have played Martins and a Bouchet. The Bouchet was positively alive. The ringing sustain of notes and chords was incredible. I have a Martin now, but the next guitar I want to buy is a Bouchet.
I liked the the Martin for drop D and the thumb picking stuff. It was tighter and more focused. For everything else, BOUCHER! That guitar sounds absolutely enormous. It has halos around the notes. My little 0-18 has that roundness but at a low volume. Love your channel! You’re real as it gets! Keep up the good work.
I like your channel,because you tell the truth,and tell it like it is.
You have a wonderful day.
This is a great channel,I'm glad I found it
Thank you.
For me,,,,the Martian sounds incredible
You are a great player,,, ,and I roughed up my hair too.lol
Wild hair Tuesday! Perfect! I just came from driving home with all the windows down. I'm Perfect! Lol
JP, you're getting better at this all the time. Great video, and review.
It does look like the Boucher has teensy fret markers. (ha, at least to my aging eyes) Maybe hard to see them in dim stage lighting?
Great commentary Thanks John
Man…they both sound so good. Trying to pick a favorite is like trying to pick your favorite kid. The Boucher has incredible clarity and a beautiful sound. The Martin has those classic “undertones” and a somewhat percussive quality to each individual string. Even if it didn’t have the name “Martin” on the headstock it would be my first pick because that sound appeals to me.
Both beautiful. I play an old Martin JC-16R GTE Jumbo Ii love it and it booms. Not anywhere near the price range as the 2 you are showing. Thanks so much . You are an awesome player.
A very respectful and fair description of these two extraordinary instruments. I have a Martin D-41 since 1972. Year of construction 70/71? Unfortunately typical neck break, but professionally by Prof. Luthier repaired. Gray original case that now tends into the gray - greenish in excellent condition. Except for the break and the reddish reeling of the guitar ceiling, except for a tiny quirk in almost new condition. Really unbelievable, I know. Tone: indescribable! Thanks for your great video - greetings from Germany - Manfred
Both beautiful, I prefer the Martin but openly admit Brand bias!
In second listen, I’d say the Boucher is brighter and loud, and beautiful. I may prefer the D-41 because I’m a rock player and like the darker tone, but rest assured, I would love to own both ❤
Both excellent and different from one another. Investment value is a factor as well. I have had my D41 for 49 years. I have handmade dreads I hand picked. They are all different. My fav of all is is a 1964 Martin D28 SW. comparisons are sooo personal! Great vid, thanks so much.
Great video JP
Awesome playing. Volume sounded the same on this side over TH-cam. Martin had more chime and thump on open string runs. Boucher had more mid punch as you go up the neck. Great comparison!
both sound amazing in different ways. Boucher sounds clearer to my ears and Martin has a grit that I also enjoy. Fantastic playing; whichever inspires you to play better is the victor
I own both of these guitars and both are great. But I’m with you JP, the Boucher is my preference as well, but I love them both.
Happy wild hair Tuesday, nice reviews.
Both sounded incredible.
They are both amazing, the Boucher, had a touch more high frequency, but that could just be the condition of the strings. I have been experimenting a lot with strings lately. For not that much money, I have settled on the Ernie Ball Earthwoods as delivering the sound that best suited my ear. And it is uniform on my different acoustics.80/20 Medium Light Phosphor Bronze. Cleary JP has a riches of guitars and how much fun it must be to play them, and have his skills... Thanks JP!
You hit the nail right on the head. The Martin has a unique sound, it was made for 'Bluegrass'. I own a 1965 J50 and a 1967 J45 Gibson. I play a 1982 Stelling Bellflower. , not that well, lol, I'm a guitar player at heart, but, the Martin sound was made to play along with the banjo, hence 'Bluegrass' sound. I would not part with my Gibson's for either, especially my J45. The Gibson sound is all together different. "My" sound, as is every guitar, that hits some one's heart strings. Like fine wine , 'preference'...Now, I gather the insults will be arriving to me. That's , ok. I love the 'Old' Gibson sound. '"My" heart strings'...Great episode. Love your TH-cam programs...👍
Each of the twp guitars have their own voices, each is unique to itself...It's a matter of opinion to the player and what they're looking for in a guitar...I have 5 guitars: Maton EBG808TE (Tommy Emmanuel series, signed by Tommy Emmanuel) Gibson Songwriter Deluxe Studio Edition, Taylor 314 CE, Takamine (Glen Frey edition, signed by Glen Frey), Martin D16-RGT (signed by Tommy Emmanuel) All guitars are played through an AER 60 Compact Amplifier. Thanks to JP for taking the time to demonstrate these two great guitars. Heard JP play at the Hullabaloo in Perth Andover a couple of years ago and also played with Dave Gunning... Great concert and funny stories.....
Great demo!
We do not get Boucher guitars on the west coast, but I saw a 2nd hand one for sale last summer
and could not believe how nice it sounded. I love my two Martins but the sound of this guitar was a way up there. Hopefully the guitar maker will expand his guitars to the west coast soon.
It was close but when you used the capo the Martin had it , it was just beautiful.
I gotta go with Martin. Both incredible guitars
Boucher, especially with capo. I’d have either but the clarity of Boucher is amazing! Thanks!!
I bought a Boucher SG-21, several upgrades and the wider nut as well very similar to yours (never having played one either, going largely on your videos). Love it, immensely, but it is a very different animal than my D41 style Collings and really couldn't compare the two at all.
They both sound great. The Boucher to me sounded brighter and clearer with more note separation. The Martin sounded darker with a nice mellow tone. I’d be happy with either one 😊
Ok. I just bought a Boucher last July and shortly after I had the chance to visit the shop where Robin Boucher (my guitar maker god) and his team make those great guitar. I bought a SG51. Rosewood. I tried many many guitar (Gibson, Martin, Taylor ) in every price range. Didnt matter to me. I focused only on the result , the emotion , the projection of the sound. All sounded good but not as great as Boucher dreadnought or om. It took me 4 years to decide as I wasnt in a hurry (already had a guitar). As a guitar player I do not deserve that instrument. It s only a reward for many years of doing home improvment myself. But what I can tell you is that they do sound better. Here , this will sound strange but, I think the Martin was slightly better. Great video. Thank JP.
Update. The Boucher is better. After listening the video for the third time.
Based on your video, I bought a Boucher BG 152 GM and could not be happier. The balanced sharp clarity through all the strings. It's as loud as I need to be. Boucher makes a fine guitar. Thanks for the great video!! Still haven't stopped thinking about that Martin D41 for one day.
The martin sounds awesome 😎
I own a 2018 Ambertone D41 and it’s a phenomenal guitar. I also own a 2019 Bourgeois AT Vintage D Banjo Killer that owns the 41 in every category, except that rumbly bottom-end.
They both are great, particularly in your very capable hands. I'd be happy with either one, and I'm no neophyte. I have a '57 D-28 and a '39 D-18 which are both marvelous, but the new guitars these days are catching up with the vintage models.
I enjoy your music. Best regards from Mississippi.
Through my headphones, 41 all day. Especially playing blackberry blossom. But I’ll take your word for it. Haven’t played a Boucher yet can’t wait to try one.
I haven’t played a Boucher yet, I plan to eventually get my grubby paws on one. I have a very unique and heavily modified or heavily repaired Martin D28 that is featured a few times on my channel. But I also have in my possession a 1978 John Greven guitar made of Brazilian rosewood and some old growth spruce. It’s easily the most powerful guitar I’ve ever heard. But on stage I play Eastman guitars almost exclusively these days because they are much more affordable and easily equipped with a pickup.
I love Martins and I own one because I can’t afford anymore 😆
You can make a tennis racket strung up sound good JP 🤙
I loved both…
great channel sir great guitars and picken sir
They are both beautiful and I wouldn't say no to either if I had the money , that's the best Martin I've heard for a long time , I've tried new models and they just don't have it but that D41 has it in spades , the Boucher is outstanding it has everything you need and more . If I had to choose one it would take a very long time. Thank you for that .
They both sound great. I don’t have a d-41 but i do have a d- 28 and a bg52i Boucher. Love them both. But Boucher’s are on another level . I’ve never played a Boucher i didn’t like. Love your guitar reviews J.P. Keep them coming.
Hello John, They're both great guitars. If they make you happy, keep them both. Like many others, I learned this the hard way.
That intro.. nailed it!
I highly recommend listening to comparisons with the tv-stereo-headphones and then comparing because the results will change radically.
Listened on the tv (eq'd for live sports) and the Martin sounded louder and brighter/sharper…maybe slightly better and the Boucher sounded more balanced, quieter, silky and less punchy.
Listened with my on ear headphones I use for exercising but they were too bass heavy to tell what was going on.
Listened with some cheap but decent over ear headphones and the Boucher came alive…It sounded as or nearly as loud but sweeter and balanced and the Martin sounded more mid scooped with bright highs and booming bass but also a bit synthetic/metallic compared to the Boucher which sounded more rounded/silky/natural.
Both are fabulous and it's a matter of opinion. If I were to join a bluegrass band I'd probably still choose this particular Martin (having not listened in person) but for everything else I think I'd go with the Boucher.
Once again after listening to the demo 3 different ways and getting very different results. I cannot wait until I can demo a Boucher in Person as I was just about and may still buy a 000-28 because I like the short scale but now I'm hesitant until I play a Boucher OM even tho it'll be 2k more than the 000-28 and full scale.
Both guitars sound amazing. The Martin speaks to me. Nothing sounds like a Martin to me. Something about the classic distinct tone of the Martin does it for me. I’d take these guitars until I could get a Santa Cruz. Lol
Well done JP. Have a 71´Martin D35, my work horse, which I will never sell, but can´t wait to play the BG152 I have ordered. From what I hear in your test is that both sound great, but it seems that the sound does not want to come out of the box as easily as it come from the Boucher...
A great comparison. I have to vote for the Martin. To me it sounds a little warmer with more bottom end. They’re both great, but if I had to choose between the two, it would be the Martin.
Holy hell, what a laser gun. Good name for that thing; “Laser”. The Martin sounds so crisp it’s hard to imagine you’d be playing something better in comparison.
When you drop down to d the boucher won hands down,both sound so similar,but the clarity of the boucher takes the cake.
martin for me . i dont know if its my ears ,but, the martin sounded louder. great review and great playing. thanks.
Great demo ! They're different
So pleased you got a D-41.....you really deserve it...great playing....the Boucher takes it with the Balance and power though...awesome....I was fortunate to buy a mint used 1990 D-41 about 15 years ago here in Belfast for an unrepeatable £1400....there is something very special about the look of a pearl Martin and it sounds so good now at 31 years old....however as a celtic fingerstyle player the Avalon or Lowden style just suit me better for DADGAD tuning........I still walk into the room though and think that D-41 is gorgeous.......even just to stare at!!!......thank you John.
There is a distinct richness of sound more so in the lower register on the Martin it appears. Keep up the great work J.P. It would be great to see the Martin up against BooBoo
Like you say it’s what sits with your heart . For many years I have bought and sold my guitars and never being happy, my last one I sold was the Maton 808 and I was bitterly disappointed with that guitar . It was great though an amp but acoustically no volume and didn’t feel right. So I went I told a guitar shop in Birmingham uk my problem just could not find a guitar to satisfy me. So because of a permanent shoulder injury I have to have a smaller bodied guitar. They bought me out the Matin 0m28E and said it’s the best one of that Martin size that they played , so I had a good play on it and wow it just sang , I couldn’t believe how good it was and the neck is like silk so easy to play. Well I bought it . At last I Owen a guitar I want to keep , it’s just beautiful, no beautiful decor on the guitar just a beautiful, beautiful sound fantastic, thank you Martin.
i have a 2010 model Wild Goose (D) ..and i wouldn t change it for any other guitar ..thanks robyn and guys at Boucher guitars ...merci
Wow. That Martin just has a more weighty sound, bags of power, I’m surprised that you say the Martin is quieter as it doesn’t sound like it in your video. The Boucher is lovely with a very sweet sound.
According to JP our ears are lying to us.
Lovely playing, as always, JP! Both sounds amazing, but I’m leaning towards the Martin, since it sounds a little more « open » if that makes sense? ( We met on Shetland Folk Festival some years ago)
The comparison I wanted thanks J.P. great Martin your right but I think your Boucher is better.
Thanks JP. Did you have the same strings on both for this comparison?
(Before watching) Ok now thats something id like to see!!!
For me the ultimate test is always when the guitar is being strummed.. I normally dont have a hard time picking a favorite but in this one i really cant choose. It seems to me that the Boucher is bigger/fuller sounding and like you said prolly louder but then the Martin seems warmer collored. Very hard to choose.
7:10 7:19 Martin is darker colored, Boucher is bigger/fuller.(Fuller spectrum of frequencies)
In therm of tone collor, Its like the Boucher is a D18 and the Martin a D28. That d41 is scooped in the mids.
Its hard to really judge as they seem to be setup differently, the d41 is more "stringy", when he strums it, you can hear some buzzing.
The Boucher has a clearer sound. Both sound amazing
I have a Martin D-41 and I prefer that tone but the other one sounds great too.
Great informative video … maybe a review (unless you have already) on the D35?
If only I could play like you, I would never complain about the name on the headstock.