Hey everyone. Because I am being asked the same question, I have decided to put this here and pin it. There are some of you who have asked why I said that the way Mo'Nique went about expressing her frustration was wrong and you don't seem to understand why I said that. I am not referring to Mo'Nique speaking out about the issue of pay gaps in Hollywood. I supported her doing that. She was well within her right to do so and I supported most things she was saying about the situation. The PROBLEM I had was when she went on stage during her stand-up routine (and this was also mentioned on the Steve Harvey daytime show when she appeared as a guest) and told Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels to suck her d*ck. She said a lot of really lewd and unprofessional things because she was frustrated. Please watch those videos for yourselves. Now, some of you have no issue with what she said and you support her lashing out. I happen to disagree. I did NOT like when Mo did that and I think she did herself a huge disservice when she did. So, there you have it. That is why I said I didn't like the way she went about it.
I agree. There are more dignified ways to do it. We as black people tend to be aggressive when we're wronged, rather than follow our forebears example of being dignified when it comes to challenging the system. Think #CycelyTyson #SidneyPoitier #DiahannCarroll #HarryBelafonte. Monique could have handled it off stage. I agree with Monique concerning how Netflix treated her, but not about promoting #Precious. So what Tyler didn't want to pay her to promote the movie; it's your project; promote it. It only can add more money to the coffers and you'd have a better platform to justify what you're fighting against. My other point is, Monique DID make us aware of pay differences for Black actors as well as women, but so did #ViolaDavis, and no-one talks about that. Why?
@@charlesdavis545 Monique got a settlement with Netflix. A lot of people seem to forget that she was right about Netflix. Not only that but shortly after one of the Senior Managers was fired for saying the N word during meetings. Also, several employees filed discrimination lawsuits.
@@charlesdavis545 No, it wasn't Monique's 'project'. It was Tyler Perry, Oprah Winfrey and Lee Daniel's project. Monique was hired and paid to do a job as an actor and she fulfilled the contract and moved on. If they wanted her to do more ie promotion, they needed to PAY renumeration for that work, her time and inconvenience (time away from her family, mental wellbeing, chill & relaxation she would forgo, etc.). You represent everything that is toxic in mentality about a certain section of the Black community that has a mindset based in low self-esteem and that Black people have no 'value' and because of that should accept working for nothing ('How dare you actually want to get paid for work as a well known, experienced and award winning entertainer and actor?!'). Yet you & Tyler Perry & Co. wouldn't dare to even suggest to a white woman of a much lesser calibre and status to Monique, to leave her home and come and work for NOTHING. But yet you expect a Black woman to do that and even berate her for wanting to be paid?! That is the epitome of a toxic mindset.
@@marriejames01 Well said! Monique highlighted an important issue, opened doors, inspired and gave others the 'confidence' to challenge discrimination in the workplace.
Very sweet, ur insight is true. I won't take too long with this address but may I point something out that I have noticed among us and we can apply this to Monique's not-so-subtle Rebuttals to Tyler and opera . An others, Tell me if you heard this before truth and lie went swimming 1 day as they got out in the middle of the water in splashing around all of a sudden truth was looking out for lie ind discover that lie jumped out of the water got dressed up in truths Clothes and took off running. So out of the water comes Naked truth chasing chasing the well-dressed lie. Think for a moment what are the lies that we as black people know about Hollywood You and I both know the answer so we don't even have to think about it. I know that when you live in a glass house you shouldn't throw stones well Monique didn't throw the Stone she shattered the foundation that has been built on a lie, Nothing is beautiful or pretty when it shattered. How many black men and women worked in Hollywood and went to their graves knowing the truth but couldn't speak it. She spoke it raw she spoke it truthfully and she spoke it without fear even though there was going to be a backlash even though there were clowns and ccoon a nd other people who weren't going to agree or support Monique. Steve Harvey and so many others But the truth is the truth. Hollywood is not going to change and we are not going to change it. Elijah Muhammad said back in the 30s all the way into the 70s. And minister farrakhan echoes it today we must do for self or suffer the consequences. Some of us still rebel against that Today these people are not our friends they never were our friends we don't have friends. We must look into ourselves and Settle our petty Differences because we are Hollywood every Black man and Woman that would Walk away from Hollywood that industry would sink in less than 24hrs I Don't think any of us would deny that .. Are they powerful yes do they have resources yes do they have government influence in federal support and everything yes are they wicked yes are they deceitful yes are they the Demonic yes are they sadistic yes but that's not who we are and that's not what we should represent a black devil is no worse than a white devil Because a devil is a devil.
Tyler Perry: "I don't believe in giving money away for free" UNLESS your name is Prince Harry 😂 Gave millionaires free security and free housing, but couldn't pay Monique to do promotion.
The issue is its never your problem until it's on your doorstep. None of them stood up for Monique or helped in the fight, but here we are.. Good luck to her and her career
they dont stand up for each other; they tend to be narcissists; also moniques situation while there was much merit in it ( and im trying to package her right now; i dont read about this on the internet ) while there is much merit in moniques situation; these two situations moniques and ms hensons are different; different circumstances; although they are related; and both women have a legitimate gripe; but theyre not the same; thats over simplifying; ms hensons career is going amazingly ; what hallucinations are you having? having nothing to do with her or moniques situation at times having to do with monique; there is terrible undervaluing of women as they age; and of course black people do get whats bad in a system often the worst; so she is beginning to get old and just because of that her value will start to decline; now pair this with an opposite dynamic of experienced starts valued by experience not the stigma of age command more money; so this is why often they throw away mature stars particularly more so; mature women; some big star men; not most but some are allowed to age; the younger people are cheaper and have a longer time to be a product ; longer time left on this earth; sorry to hear this about ms henson; she has starred in many AAA movies with profit margins of 200 million plus; and should command a value of at least 1 - 2 million per picture fairly; surely 500 thousand should be the floor of what any full budget ( over 40 million dollar movie bids her at ) ; this is sad; but it has nothing to do with your imagined fantasy world of how this all breaks down ; ( what do i know? i just got off the phone with monique's husband this morning ) and i would love to place ms henson in a movie or on broadway ( although she admits shes not up for the challenge of a broadway schedule but maybe if it was 4 - 5 times a way instead of 8 ) ; something i learned from mo nique and sidney is not to wear out stars; not to treat stars badly by working them half to death; a mature star should not be asked to perform live more than 4 - 5 times a week; and the show should be double cast or now ; an exciting new possibility is to augment the live performances with a 10 - 40 dollar a " ticket " ( streaming ticket ) streaming income ; performances streamed live in real time ;
but what you just said and i support monique entirely means absolutely nothing; your analysis etc; her demands are very reasonable; often stars demands are not reasonable; this is
Others don’t wanna stand up because of the fear of losing their jobs and getting blacklisted! That’s why I will always respect Mo for standing her ground!
I don't care what anyone says about Monique's delivery and who she cussed out or told off in the process. The principle of the matter is she was speaking truth to power and eventually forced Netflix to pay her what she deserved, which means it was a fruitful endeavor. Taraji and co. completely left Monique out in the cold, when they could've and should've joined forces with her to bring about necessary changes for everyone. The lack of unity among Black people, including Black Hollywood, has been a long-standing driving force in our own struggle to elevate as a community. Love your channel btw! 242 all day!
Its not just controversial , if you look at Monique's filmography she hasn't done solid work in nearly 7 years, after she complained about the pay disparity.
ALL of these so-called BLACK ACTORS had their chance to band together and make their voices HEARD when Mo’Nique was reaching out and calling out for her Brothers and Sisters to stand together. EVERY ONE OF THEM NINJAS kept SILENT! and allowed the media lie on her! Oprah-Steve Hardly-Tyler Perry-Lee Daniel’s-Cedric The Entertainer-DL Hughley-Rickey Smiley, and on and on! Mo’nique only got $50,000 for Precious! WTF! Wake up Beloved Sista. Issa, Tyler and Shonda had to “PLAY THE GAME” and “GIVE SOMETHING” to be where they are! Even Spike Lee had to SUBMIT to darkness to the position. And profanity being used is no EXCUSE to ignore the MESSAGE and the TRUTH! Ninjas love a smooth LIE, but REJECT the HARSH TRUTH! The FOOLISHNESS!
The entertainment industry is ran by whyte society and blk folks, begging at the door, looking for crumbs instead of grouping together, and starting their own entertainment industry vehicles. We are our own worst enemy crabs in a barrel.
Preach Mo!!!! She did not go about it the wrong way. People just could not believe the audacity that she had to speak up and speak her truth. Now everyone is saying exactly what she's been talking about. Inequality hurts like hell.
Thanks for watching. Inequality does hurt like hell. Like I said, I supported her message. Her delivery? Not at all. That's not how adults communicate. She has been blacklisted as a result. Think about it. Would you be receptive to your coworker telling you to suck her d*ck. How would you respond? Be honest.
Monique didn’t go about anything wrong it’s just erroneously common when AA speak up about inequality in the work place housing banking no one wants to Hear it. But every other POC or victims of injustice gains a voice and tangible results. AA women have to fight to win then the next fight you start all over. Sad no one understood the number for Monique getting paid 50k for Precious but was expectorant to fly internationally for free. When Monique name was free promotion for Precious . Sad they didn’t back Mo up.
@@michaelcoletta4547 I agree. That's her main issue. Really don't think Black Women realize how much we are hated by so many different demographics. That will always affect your money!!
@@thatgirlkells5505 another problem is that while Mo no doubt cares about the issue, her boycott campaign and the way she went about everything was a little disingenuous... she used the larger issue as a rallying cry to garner support not just for said issue, but to bolster her position regarding demands that most reasonable people would consider quite excessive. Had she not been so out of touch with her own personal career demands, she might have ACTUALLY helped make progress on the pay gap issue... but because she got greedy, she likely ended up doing more harm than good. I'm sorry but her demands were unreasonable, and her raising the wider issue does nothing to make them more reasonable.
To answer your question as a white audience, I do like seeing black actresses on screen. ESPECIALLY when they can deliver a powerful performance, and not just “inserted” into the movie somewhere for comedic relief.
Let’s keep it ALL the WAY real Zendaya and others like her are killing it cause they’re mix race. they’re palatable and accepting to other ethnicities and races 🤷🏽♀️
@@rw2382She can't help her ethnicity. It's not her fault how the system is set up. In addition, she is way younger. Older actresses, regardless of ethnicity tend to get fewer roles. It stinks, but that's the nature of the beast.
I don’t see the allure with Zendaya. It’s like they pick certain people and say they’re gonna force you to like them. I haven’t;t liked her in anything I’ve seen her in. I don’t see the talent or anything special there.
The industry only wants us to seen and thought of in a very narrow way. It’s like maths or english, if repeat a word or equation enough you will learn it and will stick in your mind. That’s exactly what they do with us. There isn’t really the “inclusion” nor “equality” in reality that they peddle.
thats a whole other problem; we have a production company that is basically centered on black upper middle and upper class projects ; our projects are about black people of the higher socioeconomic classes; there are people who dont want that; and there has been ugliness
I’m white and yes, I want to see black actors cast in a wide array of roles and paid equally. What I don’t want is forced diversity that’s used to pander to what woke Hollywood “thinks” we want. Hire based on talent and pay accordingly!
What are you even talking about? Forced diversity?? To be diverse should be a given in films, and obviously they should be paid equally but the issue is why are they being paid unequally? Is it because they are black? Is it because they feel they need to have a black person in that role therefore they are paying them very little? Is it because of the role of the character? Is it because that person accepted a certain amount before and this is something that is known? How much money is she expecting to get? What is the pay based on in Hollywood??
It doesn't work that way unfortunately. And just for the record, we're talking about actors....people who don't shape society, create innovations, are not educators, etc....I'm more concerned about people who are truly making a difference in our community not being compensated their worth than someone who's "acting" in a movie and concerned about their pay.
@@ASmith-jn7kf forced diversity. Examples include hiring a black actress to play Cleopatra, who was not black, the remake of the Little mermaid, and taking a classic character and race, swapping her. The DEI effort has gotten so bad that nobody knows who was hired for their skills, and who was hired because they fit a quota. Claudine Gay is the perfect example of a DEI hire. She committed the ultimate sins academics, and yet remains employed and collecting her $900,000 salary, while the other two university presidents, she testified alongside with we’re fired. The double standard that lowers standards for “minorities“ is going to come back and bite us all in the butt. I am now going to wonder if I meet a Doctor Who is not white, a pilot who is not white, or anyone with whom I trust my life with, made it to their position because of their elastic aptitude and exemplary, skill set or was it just based on immediate characteristics? I don’t know about you, but I don’t wanna fly a plane where the pilot was hired for what they look like. I’m nervous flyer already but now that enters my mind and makes me wonder and question. It was already a problem before DEI became so prolific and honestly, I think that in the 2000s we had reached probably the greatest results in terms of making racism of relic of the past. I’m not saying that it doesn’t exist just that it doesn’t exist in a systemic level, and what so many don’t realize is that as white people it is green, too anyone who is not white or not a man or not heterosexual, as somehow needing a leg up. It’s insulting to those who have actually worked hard and deserve their position. If I was black, I’d be pissed! I would not want people around me to doubt my capabilities because of my skin tone just as I don’t appreciate the fact that it is become AOK to spew anti-hate and rhetoric everywhere. The civil rights movement was all about integrating and equality not equity. The people who fought in those marches, just wanted the same opportunities that everyone else has in this country. We have achieved that goal, but with so many middle-class young people who literally have no meaning in their lives and are so spoiled and narcissistic that they have to invent problems like “trans genocide.” I could go on and on, but you probably won’t even read this in its entirety..
Monique never went about it wrong, she was tired of being of being lowballed and spoke it up . She stood her ground and waited patiently to get what she's worth.
Agree. If she started attacking the other actresses and sending them hate or blaming them over something that wasn't really their fault, then yeah I would've understood the backlash or apathy more. But no, she behaved herself like what you said.
the industry is totally wicked and there are people still black balling monique; she also has her supporters; but ive had people shut the door in my face because i had a monique project; very ugly
And Monique was ridiculed for speaking out and she wasn’t being supported by her peers and friends. Everyone seemed to be against her. Now the tide has turned. The worst thing to do is stop fighting for the pay you deserve. Actors need to band together and unite or create their own production company so they decide what their pay is.
@@alainam.denino67 youre talking to someone who has been there for her all along and is trying to package shows for her; im her friend and ive been there for her; and im there for her now; and i just wrote her an email saying im there for you; and i got the best shows for her
It's Hollywood. Think hypocrites. The sole interest is MONEY. Lotsa money. If the movie won't make MONEY everywhere,especially overseas,which is a BIG market, it will not be made.
the elephant in the room is that they are looking at how large of an audience u attract,,thats what is affecting the pay of black actors. Denzel and Will SMith , Eddie Murphy are the black actors that can consistently draw a huge crowd worldwide. Chadwick just before he passed managed to do the same. how many people are watching Jennifer Aniston's show versus Angela's show, thats what they will use as the excuse, so people need to keep that in mind. For black female actors, the writing of their parts needs to get better . there is a science to this and people arent looking at that, they just having expectations that never get realized. Will Smith famously explained how he became a box office champ, its because he studied the movies that made the most money and he tailored his entire career to that and put in the work and audience bought it. they dont care about your resume, thats not what its about,. Are people going to come see u when u put a project out is the question
That would be the case for some, but Angela Bassett, Taraji P. Henson, and Viola Davis are extremely popular and they still don't make a decent salary. They have had breakout movies that made them cross over to the white audience. Benjamin Button was huge. Black Panther movie was huge. The Help was a big box office hit.
Shonda was writing 2 shows for abc when the CEO denied her entrance to Disney land when she had a free pass. He told her something to the effect of..”don’t we give you enough?!” She left them & went to Netflix. Then we got bridgerton
It was an ABC executive that told her this via a phonecall. She'd wanted to get her sister a pass. She told this story in a magazine. After the call, she told her team she was changing networks.
Only thing with Friends, it was the #1 TV show in the USA for several years in a row, and the entire cast negotiated together to make that happen. I'm not sure we've ever seen that type of pay on a TV show since (maybe Big Bang?). Plus, this was long before the competition from streaming channels. I understand your point, but I do think it was a different time. In terms of seeing black actresses in film - ofc I'd love to see them 😍
This will be an unpopular opinion. Mass audience appeal gets the big salaries. It gives those actors & actresses bargaining power at the negotiating table. One of the things that will hurt your mass audience appeal is forgetting you’re an entertainer & becoming an activist. Entertainment is for escapism. Hollywood went so political since 2015, they’ve decimated the one thing their careers depend on: good will from the audiences. The bigger the audiences the bigger the paycheck & Hollywood stopped trying to entertain and they just made audiences feel like the “unwashed masses” & the undesirables. So the audiences moved on. God bless her but she’s so focused on what someone else got she’s completely blind to the entirety of Hollywood’s problems which have just started. She’s crying now? They went on strike [and very few cared!] for a greater share from a well they let run dry. 2024 will be far worse. TV ratings are down. Movie box offices are down. There were more blockbusters flops than hits so we’ll see less blockbusters as well as less scripted tv shows. The streaming bubble is collapsing, you will have more actors & actresses competing for less roles because roles are going to begin drying up, more having to do commercials and only those actors & actresses that kept their mouths shut the last several years will weather the storm Hollywood created for itself.
You’re not wrong, can we just go to a movie as a family and have NOT have to see anything sex themed? Can we laugh, have fun and not have to deal with agendas and politics? There is a time for it, make those movies and if people like that kind of stuff, let them enjoy it. Otherwise let’s pay people who do their job well, well.
Sadly, that is so true. I am an older, white-as-table-salt woman, so I can't exactly weigh in on the issues black actresses have, but I can say if I have to watch another unrealistic car chase or superhero movie, I'm going to scream. Or cry. One or the other! Hollywood is and always has been about the money, not necessarily quality, but modern Hollywood is a whole other level of greedy and lazy. I do not care what the color of the actors are, but I do want depth and quality from the actors and the writing and right now, we got nothin'. Hollywood is churning out nothing but sequels and prequels and do-overs. They have absolutely no original ideas anymore, either on TV or in films. These days, I typically watch reruns or old sitcoms on television, or foreign movies. And it makes me sad because I've always been an avid moviegoer. Nowadays, I go more for a popcorn fix than to see a movie I'm excited about.
Henson is a fabulous actress, who has not had nearly the recognition she deserves (she should have won Oscar for "Hidden Figures" IMO), and it hurts to know she's also not being properly compensated. We need artists like her and I pray she will stick it out.
@@SquirtlePower809 I was appalled that she wasn't even nominated for her performance, while Octavia Spencer (who was great in a supporting role) was... to me Henson was the LEAD of that film and gave an extraordinary performance--a complete characterization of enormous originality and subtlety and a profound emotional impact. I mean, the Oscars rarely get it right, so, whatever--but this actress deserves more recognition and opportunity.
@beamanact 💯 agree! And not that this really matters, but I'm an actual trained actor that won numerous national awards during college and have been a director and acting coach for 17 years, so I've got a pretty good eye for this stuff. And her performance was a masterclass really. She made so many unique and yet profound choices in that performance. I remember just constantly being surprised, in the best way, with every scene that passed. She was meticulously AND YET organically constructing the character as a living ,breathing, fully 3 dimensional person. It is one of those performances where I don't even need to know the back story of the character-- because everything was told to me through her performance. Watching the film, you feel as though you DO know her story and who she is just from the way she delivered her lines. There is so much rich detail that informs you about the character without having to explicitly give a monologs about her past, her family life, her relationships, her interests, etc.-- like all of that is communicated through her performance of the available lines. It's brilliant. And it is something that very few actors have the ability to do. I would argue Cate Blanchett is the BEST at this, even more than Meryl or Viola. But all of them have that same ability. And I agree Octavia is great, but she was nowhere near Taraji in this particular movie. I think it was a timing thing as Octavia was still riding the incredible success of recent performances around those years. And you are right the Academy isn't great with their choices. Better than the Grammy awards imo lol! But still not fantastic. Curious, what did you think about last year's winners? Any that you strongly disagreed with? I will say that best supporting actress was wrong. Jamie did a great job, but it wasn't Academy award level to me. And best actress I still struggle with. I don't mind that it went to Michelle Yeoh, but Cate Blanchett pulled off a MONSTER of a role in Tar. I mean, that was a hurricane of acting lol. Best director I totally agreed with, BUT best film...hrmmm I thought The Fabelmans should've won. And I know it's taboo to break up best film and best director (though I'm not sure why). Best actor, I'm ok with Brendan taking it, though I probably would've gone with Butler in "Elvis". Overall it wasn't a shocking year to me. I have a feeling this year is going to be a mess lol
@@SquirtlePower809 I've been a professional actor for 33 years and a coach and theatre educator for two decades so yeah, i hear you! I don't have a whole lot to say about recent Academy Awards and going forward I will have even less interest and respect for the Oscars due to the imposition of diversity quotas in every area of filmmaking as a prerequisite for consideration for awards. Michelle Yeoh is a phenomenal actress and her performance was great--but also, I think, deservedly, she was being recognized for her body of work as well--this is often the case at Oscars...someone overdue for recognition... and her win last year represented an acknowledgement of that fact. I agree with you about The Fabelmans, but, again, Hollywood is "de-centering" such stories.The 2017 Oscars were a hot mess. I have very strong feelings about "La La Land" which I still feel was hugely overrated and Emma Stone's performance, while memorable, doesn't hold a candle to her work in "The Favourite" or even "Easy A" which I think is a masterful comic performance. Hollywood loves to celebrate itself and "La La Land" was a love letter to the industry. What was weirder--Viola Davis nominated for SUPPORTING actress for "Fences???" Um. What? She was the lead. It's interesting to think what Best Actress category would have been like...I love Meryl but "Florence Foster Jenkins" is not in the same league with even her own best work. Ruth Negga was wonderful in "Loving" which was a very important film that went otherwise unnoticed. Had there been any justice (and let's face it elite awards aren't about fairness) the Best Actress category would have been: Viola, Taraji, Ruth--see where I'm going? In 2017 three actresses of color in one category--no. Now? Absolutely. Oops. That was a long comment. LOL
*I know that this is a serious discussion, BUT, I cannot ignore the fact that the woman humbly brought a box of tissue for Taraji and she took it and did not even acknowledge that woman’s presence. Some may say that I am nitpicking and that she was emotional and that was the lady’s job, but I have always felt that people who take the “server class” for granted are not very nice people. The irony of complaining about being treated less than, whilst being incapable of taking a second to say “thank you” to someone helping you.*
You and I are alike. I also said she should have said thank you. But, Taraji is typically polite to people when I see her in interviews...But, I also think she should have said thanks. I will say maybe she was just emotional and not thinking in the moment. Thanks for watching!
@@ThisBahamianGyal I love your insightful content and world view, Rogan, and I can tell that you are a very respectful and kind person! Fellow Caribbean girl here (Trinidad).
Nah youre just noticing the hypocrisy of the “all white people are privileged & we all owe money to all blacks who we keep from making money” 🙄 (even though the families of most white Europeans in America today didn’t even get here till 1890-1920, anywhere from *THIRTY TO SIXTY YEARS POST ABOLITION!!!* The people kanye tried to warn us about, who also came after kick cannon kyrie irving & whoopi recently are who’s behind this race war - they are also who owns Hollywood….they look white so we take the blame for all the evil they do….if whites were the oppressors, then no one would be allowed to talk about us, ya know, like how no one is allowed to upset those that Ye spoke of…. So long as blacks wanna buy the victim narrative being handed to them you’ll continue to notice the hypocrisy….you’ll also see the hatred manifest until we find ourselves in a civil war so we can kill each other off while those behind it get to hide away in their mansions they own from all the money they have from owning every source of media we use from the “news”, to Hollywood to social media to google to this very site…
But it's all about supply and demand. The show friends was HUGE so of course they had to pay the big bucks ANDDDD there were differences in pay rates per cast member and they were all white. There's a lot that goes into why someone is paid higher than others...
That's what a lot people don't get about these pay gap discussions, there's literally a million things that go into why someone is is getting paid vs what someone else is getting paid. If this was 50 years ago, I could definitely understand where Henson and Monique were coming from, but in this day in age where diversity quotas matter more than anything, even more than merit in some circumstances, those arguments seem weaker today than in the past and that's only one aspect of this situation. We haven't even started into the rise of streaming services vs cable over the past two decade or drawing power for the box office just to name a few more factors. There might be some racial issues that come into why black actors don't do well but that has more to do with overseas markets like China not being very fond of black people than it does with the US, Canada and the UK.
The Friends actors got together and they ended up getting paid a million per episode. In modern family Sofia Vergara was the highest paid and she’s Latina. Well except Ed O’Neill made a little more than her. Taraji or Monique have not been in any global popular show for them to get paid millions an episode. Let’s keep it real.
I’m sorry but complaining about pay inequality in Hollywood is pointless. The entire entertainment industry has always been full of inequality and it always will be as long as we live in a free-market, capitalist society. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about TV, movies, or the music industry. For the most part entertainers who work in these fields will get paid up front based on their earning potential which can vary greatly. Rihanna has gotten paid a whole lot more in her career than India Arie mainly because she’s way more popular and has generated way more revenue. Denzel Washington has made significantly more money than Woody Harelson because he has had more box office success than Woody. It doesn’t necessarily matter which entertainer is more talented or how many industry awards they've won. It’s all subjective to the public anyway and there are a multitude of reasons why they will spend their money on certain entertainers over others. Indeed, race (and gender) can be a factor in many consumers’ decisions when it comes to film and television because people will often support actors who look like themselves. But this is an issue that Black American actors should be aware of from the jump because we’re a minority living in predominately white country. So if they can’t deal with this reality, then they should consider choosing a regular job where they can earn an annual salary.
Thank. It’s basic economics. There no need for a think piece. I’m not speaking about the content creator. I’m talking about the idea that these successful people are victims when it keeps black people from using critical and informed thinking skills.
Yep, was thinking this same thing. She is not a very popular actress so her compensation will not be up there. I'm sure there are other nuances to pricing and compensation, but I suspect that is the biggest determinant.
Truth. If you’re consistently working on low budget productions with the smaller studios, you can’t expect some huge check. You WOULD have to repeatedly negotiate. When someone wants Denzel on screen, they factor his proposed salary into the money they request for a budget. They APPROACH him! So many Black actresses are one dimensional character types and they’re all the same characters. They’re easily interchangeable and that’s why so many of us-even as other Black women-get confused about who was who in what. It’s why production companies don’t necessarily care about who they’re getting, so they don’t plan for it. It is no longer how it was when we know good and daggon well that Vanessa was Teri and Vivica was Maxine in Soul Food.
I worked in security at a tv station and I usually met celebrities. I met Taraji once and was struck by how genuine she seemed. When she said hi she made me feel seen unlike other celebrities were u feel you’re a by the way thing. She looked at you saw you acknowledged you and made you feel seen.
Yes to seeing Black actresses on screen. But it needs to be intelligent shows like drama, Sci-fi, suspense , etc. Not typical black love movies and hood ish.
I hate to say talking about not making enough right now is just not great today. So many people are struggling to pay their bills so when they see an actress, no matter her race complain about how much she makes, it’s frustrating. Black male actors make around the same amount as their white counterparts depending on how popular they are. I think unfortunately there’s a stigmatism around black females in general that may be the popularity of a black female actress is not as high regarded as a white female actress. Black men don’t seem to have that problem. I think unfortunately the stereotype of a black woman is very negative a lot of times, so when that stereotype is put into a show I think it can turn viewers away. When only 7% of your viewers are black women (if all watch) it can make it difficult. Lastly Comparing what someone made on friends versus what anyone makes on any show today is it unreasonable. That show made way more money than any show today because viewership has decreased so much. You also when comparing a TV show and the amount the actresses make you need to look at how much the show is making. I don’t think the show the Angela is on makes nearly as much money as the one Jennifer and Reece are on. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. I believe everyone should be paid what they should be paid the matter their race but I think there’s so much more that goes into it. I think the biggest thing is that black actresses need better characters that are not so much what many see as a negative stereotype. And I sincerely hope that happen.
Exactly!!! Plus these women have production companies. They are producing and writing there own show’s and that’s how they make more profit. Instead of all of them creating hair care lines start producing your own material. 🤷♂️
The people must understand that part of the issue is black, white, Asian, Hispanic people support white TV . Not so much when it comes to black TV. Why is that? Well it's because black TV focuses on the black stereotypes mostly. That hurts the progress
He had some writers at one point. The only way he became a billionaire is because he writes and produces all his shows and movies. He writes everything in days and films a movie in like 4 days and it shows. Most writers and producers it takes them months or years to finish one project. Tyler is cheap, but he’s top 4 of wealthiest film directors with George Lucas and Steven Spielberg. That’s hilarious 😂😂😂😂. The crap that he does is horrible with no creativity
If it’s a good movie, sure I’d watch/support it. The thing is, we are being told we need to watch/support them bc the actors are of a certain race. Being black does not make a movie good. But there are plenty of good movies with black casts - one of my all time favorites is American gangster. If you’re asking specifically about women, I personally find that just like comedians, when it comes to acting men are much stronger. They leave much deeper impressions on me. I can’t remember a single hysterical joke I’ve ever heard from a woman nor can I name you a single movie I’ve truly enjoyed that had an all female lead, except maybe clueless but there were guys in it that helped make it what it was, it wouldn’t have been so great without the guys. 🤷🏼♀️ Hollywood needs to focus on original story telling, not rewriting history to make one race look more powerful than the other while misrepresenting who the real people were. Also, people need to stop going to social media to tell whytes we aren’t allowed in the theater on opening night bc that’s solely for them…but what we can do is go there TO PAY FOR THEIR TICKETS THEN MAN THE DOORS TO PREVENT OTHER WHYTES FROM ENTERING….who TF do they think they are & who TF do they think we are??? That completely turns me off from wanting to support *ANYTHING* from that community…..oh & it would help if they came up with their own characters instead of casting black actresses as already well known beloved characters on purpose & not bc they’re the best for the role then crying r-ism when we don’t want to watch it. That’s my honest opinion.
I would absolutely love original stories from other countries, there’s got to be a goldmine of them!! Especially ones that don’t involve other races at all!
@@Naadeneo you’re absolutely right about it being done one purpose. What most people aren’t aware of (even though, those responsible actually admit it….but we aren’t “allowed” to talk about this particular group w/o either comments getting deleted or being attacked for being “anti-something or other”, so to tell you who I’m talking about, I have to speak cryptically so this doesn’t get deleted by bots that are programmed to delete any comments that don’t favor them bc this group also controls this very platform, let’s just say those I am referring to are who Kanye told us about) they are behind this race war they’re desperately trying to instigate - people believe whytes are responsible for lots of shit we actually didn’t do, “they” did it but they taught us whytes were responsible. (Do u know who owned the textbooks Americans learned from in the 80’s/90’s?? Ya know the girlfriend of that creep who had that island that lots of politicians & celebs visited where bad things were being done to young people?? Well, HER FATHER owned our textbooks- so we were lied to such extremes that you wouldn’t believe it - especially in our “his-story” books) I often make these 2 point to people bc getting people to believe me is the challenge but once they’re intrigued enough & they begin to look into this for themselves, they’ll find tons of info & even admissions to this being true; Point 1: If whytes were the oppressors, do you think all other races would not only be allowed but be encouraged to trash us as often & loudly as they do? They’re encouraged to attack us by our country’s most powerful & influential institutions (government, media, Hollywood, corporations- all of which are dominated by Ye’s foes, mind you) if whytes were REALLY the oppressors & in control of everything, we would have come up with an accusatory word or phrase to call people to shut them up the way they have their “anti-something or other” word they accuse everyone of who so much as accidentally insults them. (Not only is Ye a perfect example but so is whoopi, Nick cannon, kyrie irving - all 3 unintentionally upset this group & were forced to publicly apologize to them - whytes never get any such treatment & thats bc *ITS NOT US WHO’S REALLY IN CHARGE & POWERFUL ENOUGH TO OPPRESS ANYONE!!!* In fact it’s our unwillingness to ruffle feathers that’s allowing the real oppressors to blame us!!) 2nd does it make any sense to you why our own govt would be destroying our country & weakening us to such an extent as to leave us completely vulnerable to an outside attack on our own soil?? Why on earth would the leader of the most powerful country on earth go out of their way to destroy their own power & prestige? Well, if I told you that *ALL OF THE TOP TEN POSITIONS WITHIN THE CURRENT PRESIDENTS CABINET WERE ALL FROM THIS ONE GROUP WHOM WE ARENT ALLOWED TO SPEAK OF* all 10 of his *TOP ADVISERS* not to mention top donors *TO BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES* are from this one group & how *THEY ALL HAVE CITIZENSHIP NOT ONLY IN AMERICA BUT ALSO IN ANOTHER COUNTRY IN THE M.E. THAT STARTS WITH AN I & ends in an L* then suddenly the fact that our govt is in fact being run by agents of a foreign nation starts to paint the pic of exactly what’s going on here. They are intentionally weakening us from the inside between the open border, the alphabet mob that’s sterilizing CHILDREN via messing with puberty & surgeries, pushing victim narratives for certain groups & villain narratives for others & they use their ownership over our media to fan the flames that further divide us, hence why disney (currently owned by one of “them”) is doing what they’re doing. They’re not actually interested in telling amazing stories with black characters, their intention isn’t to entertain us, it’s to manipulate us, to mentally condition us, to piss us off & make us hate each other. Divide & conquer. By placing black actors in white roles, they anger whytes while furthering the victim narrative of blacks…which in turn creates more animosity amongst blacks for whites. It’s all very clear as day once this agenda is pointed out to us…like I said if u look into this for yourself you’ll find lots of evidence including many of them admitting that what I’m saying is true. Look up “1500 rabbi’s sign petition” you’ll see one aspect as to what I’m talking about.. look at who’s at the top of every organization/corporation pushing these agendas. Or even every celebrity who denounced their “white privilege”, you’ll find people like chelsea handler, the Arquette sisters, David schwimmer, seth rogan, sarah silverman, Sasha baron cohen - it’s not a “COHEN-cidence” that these people *ONLY CLAIM TO BE WHYTE WHEN THEYRE CONDEMNING ‘WHYTENESS’* yet they claim they are NOT WHYTE but that they are jay ish whenever they aren’t trashing whytes. So as unfortunate as it is, you’ll never see any great black stories be turned into movies, *ESPECIALLY NOT BY DISNEY!!* bc that’s not what it’s about….mark my words on that. I’ll be stunned if this doesn’t get deleted lol
Just yesterday, my husband and I had this same conversation pointing out how ownership and camaraderie would save many Black actors and actresses. I am glad you pointed out how others have found success using that formula. Like most things in life, you'll succeed if you do for yourself rather than complain all the time about fitting into a group that doesn't have your best interests at heart. We talked about several things in line with your points. Great video, Gyal. Have a merry Christmas. 😊
Thank you! I feel the same way. I don't need a seat at anyone's table. I will go find the empty chair somewhere else and have a seat. Merry Christmas, honey!!
@@jeremiahsams2848Putting a black actress as a mermaid is laughable. Non-seafaring people wouldn’t have myths about mermaids but Disney did it for…….reasons. To push an agenda. Like others say instead of always begging to be shoe horned into other people stories why not mine and/or create your own.
@@jocelynmoore9432that’s where most of the money comes from! The little mermaid did well in the USA, but flopped and lost money over seas. People don’t understand how these big budget movies work. We believe it just revolves around the USA and it doesn’t. If Latin America or specially China or any Asian countries doesn’t support it they don’t make money.
Lol..she has hit the wall at her age and is not a big Hollywood draw for fans point blank period. She's worth 22 million dollars and needs to better with money. By now she should've seen the jobs weren't coming as often and made plans to survive in another field or invested her millions. NO matter the skin colour some careers are limited and have expiration dates
I know im going to catch a lot of flack for this, but it really is supply and demand. If people like what youre putting out, youre gonna get paid. Now if as a whole average white people get paid more than average black people then thats a horse of a different color. Id be interested to know what these movies/shows gross. Could explain why youre not getting paid as much. Another thing to consider is most black women I run into are overbearing and entitled. That doesnt translate well overseas or anywhere else. Think about it. If white people have to defend themselves against accusations of being racist and are born inherently racist then why are we above defending ourselves against stereotypes about our community. All I see is we proving people right most of the time.
Jennifer Aniston didn't get 1 million in the 90s because she was white or because she deserved it. Friends was the top rated TV show at the time and was raking in millions globally. Heck, the haircut Aniston got on the show even became popular across America, called The Rachel. The pairing of Aniston and Schwimmer and their on/off relationship was water cooler talk for millions. By the time their contract was up for negotiations, Schwimmer was going to be paid a million dollars. The rest of the cast was going to be paid lower, with Lisa Kudrow and Matt LeBlanc being paid the least. It was Schwimmer who fought for everyone in the main cast of Friends to get paid the same as him, which made Aniston, Cox and Kudrow the highest paid female TV stars at the time. So unless Angela Bassett's on a TV show that is being aired globally, raking in millions, is well loved by the masses for her role on said show and is fighting for equal pay for all her cast members during contract negotiations, it's just wrong to be comparing her to Aniston.
I totally agree with your comment. All these black actressrs should get together and set up.tbeir businesses. Why do every black woman that have made a name for themselves feel the need to get into the beauty industry. Do something more interesting and educational.
The other thing that we have to understand is that black actors cater to primarily black audiences. Black people only make up 13% of the population. And then we narrow that down even more if they’re catering to primarily black women which brings it down to a smaller niche at 7% of the population.
Facts and then factor in children! Then bLK people that just don’t care about that show or movie. It makes a huge difference. Don’t forget overseas because that’s how most movies make money
And I'm tired of all these celebrities complaining and crying about how much is left for them. They still make much more than their worth celebrities are spoiled and many if not most do not deserve/earn what they are paid try living on minimum wage or even double minimum wage and see how hard life is. You don't help society you don't produce anything you just entertain so if you don't like how much you earn get out of the business you don't belong there and the public who is responsible for your salary don't need you.
The problem is your salary isn’t based on your movies but on how many tickets “ your name specifically adds to the gross sales”. TH is an okay actress, but the majority of America won’t go see a movie just because she’s in it. Julia Roberts, SandraBullock- they will. People support they own. Best believe every Italian will show up for DiNiro. All the Irish going to show up for Thom Cruise. Sad but True. There are over 40 million black folks in America. When a black actress or actor is on the roster we need to buy them tickets. We need to stop buying damn chains and whips and make our own movies and broadway musicals . Period
The ACCURACY of this commentary on typecasting. 🙌🏾🙌🏾 Yes!! This is why we need more black creators making solid content. I love the movies that Isaa Rae has been putting out. Her TV shows too.
You have to understand the reason why we aren’t doing well in Hollywood isn’t just because of the pay. It’s also because we’re not getting the material to show off our talent. We aren’t getting the writing to show off our talent. The material is weak as stereotypical and is exploitative at times. Now is the time for us to do our things. Now is the time to stop with the exploitation of things. And start putting out good shit. Now is our time.
You really believe that?? Do you need me to list all of the movies and TV shows in the last few years that had INCREDIBLE BLACK ROLES and scripts. But, there can always be more, I'm cool with that of course.
@@SquirtlePower809Please do cause a lot of it is trash and not quality. Most of the best movies I watch about black peopleor historical figures have been produced by Jewish and white people.
@ASmith-jn7kf wakanda films, get out, US, (his other movie with the alien lol, can't remember the name for some reason), Empire, empire records, dream girls, the color purple, till, 12 years a slave, the US vs Billie Holiday, the butler, django unchained, everything Samuel L Jackson has done, everything will Smith has done, blackish, Leslie Jones, The help, the woman king, BET, straight outta Compton, bad boys films, ma raineys black bottom, moonlight, hidden figures, black klansman, judas and the black messiah, if beale street could talk, fences, Da 5 bloods, King Richard, the inspection, the hate u give, one night in Miami, The harder they fall, Respect, Jennifer Hudson talkshow, Passing, dear white people, concrete cowboy, master, honk for Jesus save your soul, jazzmans blues, ummmm what else....there is a ton more but that's all off the top of my head
The Jennifer Aniston comparison isnt really accurate. Friends made money, lots of it, for NBC. All 6 made the same. All 6 stated they'd only go as long as they did IF they all got that bank together. NBC wasn't ready to let the Friends revenue go. It was a joint team effort they took on to make that $1M per episode and all 6 of them made that much. Not just Jennifer.
I was looking for this comment. I agree and I also didn't agree with the comparison. First of all they didn't make that amount in the beginning but after the huge succes. It's one of the best sitcoms. It's like when they say woman in soccer and man don't get the same. But what the man soccer bring in of money is nothing compared with woman
Hello from London, I just discovered your channel and subscribed, thank you for doing such an amazing job and giving great content.When Monique spoke about it year ago nobody was supported her, the silence was crazy and most of the people in the industry were saying oh Monique is the problem, she is difficult, blablabla and it's sad that only now people realise that Monique was right. She got an apology for Lee Daniel, and her netflix special. I've been supporting Monique since day one and i will continue to do so. My issue with Taraji is that during the Monique Debacle she didn't say a word and now she is crying. Mind you i love Taraji but i think us as black people need also to take some accountability for the lack of support in our community.
Hi!!!!! I am planning to return to London next year, God-willing. I only passed through on my way to Dublin. LOL. Thanks so much for subscribing. Now, to your point....Here is why I think Taraji was silent. Taraji has an excellent working relationship with Tyler Perry. She has said numerous times that he was the first person in Hollywood to pay her, her worth...it was like $500k. That allowed her to negotiate bigger deals. Mo'Nique was telling Tyler to suck her d*ck and being very disrespectful. There is NO WAY Taraji is gonna support Mo'Nique in that moment.....even if she felt she had a point. Take it away from Hollywood....let's say you were working in an industry earning £50,000 for years and someone (whom you consider family) came along and offered you £250,000 and that allowed you to negotiate a higher salary. Let's say your coworker had a financial issue with this person and told him to suck her d*ck on social media. Who you riding with? Even if you agreed with that person in principle....You are probably not gonna speak in their defence because of what they said to that person you consider family. Sorry....I know this was long.
@@ThisBahamianGyal Hello, oh nice to hear that you are planning to visit London . Regarding Taraji you made a valid point yes she was in a tricky situation however i would have appreciate to hear say at least ; " i don't agree with the direspectful comment Monique made towards Tyler but she has point regarding salary and black actress in Hollywood ". Also remember that Monique was upset for a valid reason; because Tyler has been shady to her and he later apologize to her during the phonecall that Monique famously recorded , Tyler knows what he did to her was wrong. Let's keep pushing and work hard and hopefully things will get better for all of us in the future.
When Jennifer Aniston did Friends There were basically four networks on television. Now there is an endless amount of content online. All actors are paid commensurate with the ratings they bring n. That's how it works.
what’s the excuse with all the top shows in the 90s. Why didn’t they get comparable pay? Martin Lawerence Show (all the actors were already known actors) Fresh Prince of Bel Air…. Living Color…. Living Single …. 23:20 even this Heavy hitter Director and Producer Michael Bey said this. This was in the 90s.
We don’t translate over sees because black actresses are often marginalized to only black roles. Meaning these movies won’t be receptive over sees because they’re too specific to black AMERICANS. being that black Americans make up only 13% of America, our targeted stories won’t be received the same way that other movies do, because most people won’t be able to identify or understand the foundation of our films which is black American culture. Rather than white actors get roles that translate across all demographics, Harry Potter is a great example. Why can’t a black movie just be a bunch of powerful wizards, why do they all have embody a single world view. Think about how many black fantasy or sci-fi movies exist, not many
HERE COMES THE TRUTH... It's what she said it's all the above, they should find a way to band together, and use their influence to support each other 🙏😇💯
I’ve always found the whole “They’re like the black (insert name here)” compliment to be incredibly condescending. If someone just said Viola Davis was of the same acting caliber as Meryl Streep, it would’ve been a genuine compliment. Instead it’s basically like saying “hey, you could never dream of being comparable to this talented white actor, but you are still incredibly talented… for a black person.”
Interesting. I never thought of it that way. I actually thought it was more of a direct comparison, but highlighting the racial aspect in a positive way- like Viola Davis is the black Meryl Streep literally means they are equals but one is white and the other is black. She's the black Queen of Acting. Idk. I can see it both ways honestly.
I'm a white dude (ugh its so tired having to always start sentences with what my race and sex is) but anyways - my fave actresses are black (viola davis, Whoopi, Mo, Angela Bassett, etc.) And i absolutely want them to be paid more. One thing i need to say is-- in the entertainment industry your pay is commensurate with what YOU can bring in. And sadly, Taraji is not Tom Cruise. A lot of these amazing actresses are not blockbuster hits. Like you compared Jennifer Aniston, but she is a bigger name and Friends was a MASSIVE SHOW. So I'm honestly struggling with this topic, because i do WANT these women to get paid more and be supported, but i also realize that this is a business and they pay for what the client can produce. Am i out of line on this? If you can show me a bunch of white actresses getting paid more than black actresses and they are at an equal level of stardom, then i will absolutely stand with them. But I'm not sure that is the case right now tbh. You even mentioned Tracy Ellis and Gabrielle Union-- lets be real, outside of the black community, most people dont know who they are. They are still not the global superstar types.
@ThisBahamianGyal I hope I'm not coming across combative, cause I really do feel for them and want them paid more. Idk I'm just struggling with what is realistic vs what is idealistic, does that make sense? Anyways, I appreciate your videos, they always give me things to think about in more depth.
You are correct! They are not international A list actresses. Look at Salma Hayek she makes good money or Sofia Vergara from modern family made the most and she’s not even an actress lol. It’s about how much the filmmakers will make at the end! 🤷♂️
Nobody goes broke making money and living within her means. Buy $1m house instead of $6m house. Buy $100k car instead of $400k Rolls Royce. Invest in Index funds and live happily ever after. Just like Mike Tyson said, "As much as you work hard to make money, there is someone working twice as hard to separate you from that money". Anyone who has ever seen $2million in US should never be poor again in life.
@@MissTi23 I didn't miss the point. If you feel unappreciated and underpaid, MOVE! Take what you can and start something for yourself. That's how artists and musicians moved into branding, liquor, perfumes, etc. Be an employer for once and stop whining.
24:50… That’s how so much of the Black audience gets lost. That’s how small the call is for Black actresses is-how SLIM the pickins. Personally, I can name 30 or so Black actresses without pause. [I can also do that for maybe 5 or 6 other races, but that’s because I have ridiculously diverse viewing habits bordering on embarrassing.] Anyhoo… Many of us can only think of 3 or 4 when put on the spot. The reason for that is because they’re all cast for the same role, movie after movie and show after show. The roles are so stereotypical that the actresses are interchangeable, which makes them easily forgotten or confused with each other. Or sometimes they’re so many of US in a movie with such poor writing or character construction that someone gets left out in the recall. For example: Soul Food was beautifully written. Everyone will remember Maxine and Teri, and what their beef was and who played them and everything else. If I ask about Girl Trip though… If someone only saw the movie once, they will either remember that Tiffany Hadish was crazy but can’t think of her character’s name, forget Jada was there, only remember Queen Latifah because she was still playing Khadijah 20 years later, OR, somehow, confuse Regina Hall with Tessa Thompson-but never actually know either of their names or who the character was or what they had going on. *ahem* The same could be said for Ocean’s 8 though. Sometimes, there are just TOO MANY PEOPLE in the movies. Most of Our movies are like that. Hollywood, as a whole, needs to learn how to scale back and focus on individual characters again, and I wouldn’t be the least bit mad if they started with Black movies.
You explained this so beautifully. When I first heard about this, I like alot of people, was fealing some kinda way about it. But, I get it now. Shame on Tyler Perry and Oprah for going along with this mess.
We need to see more black leading ladies. But for the love of god please no more stereotypical shows and movies. We all come from different backgrounds and upbringing. They need to diversify the storytelling that they do.
Taraji need to put in more work in like Denzel Washington and Samual Jackson for her to get a raise. She still makes more money than the average working person.Taraji is not top tier actress so she needs to stop playing the victim make your money work for you.Invest in business,real estate etc.Create a business get better financial people to negotiate more money for you.But that crying aint going do it.
She seems to be a good actress, but I honestly don't see the range. It's sad that she feels this way, but not everyone is going to make it. The revamped "Color Purple" is nothing I want to see again. Where are the writers? Write new material. Create something innovative. So far, I don't see much innovation. A strike is not the answer. As far as promoting your film, the actors go to events like Cannes and do not get paid. Monique became defiant about not doing something that every other actor does willingly. she had the opportunity for international exposure had she attended the various global film festivals.
we have to look at viewership when we talk about pay disparity. Angela Bassett 9-1-1 has 5.2M viewers vs. Jennifer Anniston Friends had a whoping 52.M viewers. More viewers more advertisment dollars.
I have a lot of respect for Mo’Nique. She was the only comedian that didn’t throw Rosanne under the bus. She said she knew who Rosanne was when nobody was looking.
I grew up in the 70's so I watched many multiracial programs. I'm not saying it was perfect. I was a kid and didn't think twice about who was on tv or in a movie. Today, I understand black artists want their own programming and stations and are proud. If you create content that caters to a specific group, you know you don't make the money and that decreases income. Your example with Martin and Will appealed to a large audience. It's all marketing, investors and audience. If the actors want more money, you know the producers and investors want even more. I think another example is women vs male pro sports. The NBA will make more money than the WNBA for the same reasons.
Actually, Lee Daniels ended up apologizing to her for his role in that incident so I don't think Monique went about the situation wrong at all. Like she said you have to speak out and if you have to be the first one to take the attack then that's what you do because that's what a real activist does! Monique was real and she took it to a real level and now people are understanding what she was saying
You must admit there are no great roles made for blacks very often. Very few get get roles that call for a role model black person. They're given stereotypical roles or are given a role once played by a different race. The black directors can't think outside the box and create something that is not ghetto. There are some great black actresses. Alfre Woodard, Cicely Tyson, Angela Basset, Halle Berry, Octavia Spencer, Hattie McDaniel and so on. When there is a population of black at 13.6,you have to make the money by playing to the population. Hollywood needs to make black new roles that are appealing to all or most races before they will become as famous as the very few there are. Don't take stereotypical roles and only take roles that are going to make your skills better.
I thought this was known. Which is why diversifying your income is important. Diversifying the movies would be good too. I love horror/supernatural movies. I don't rush to the theater to see slave movies. Or remakes. And we did have a black "Hollywood", but it was labeled black exploitation, by black folks at that, and it killed the careers of many writers, actors, producers, etc.
I may be wrong but I never heard Taraji P. Henson make this into a black-and-white issue. This is a black-on-black issue. Because in almost every industry white people are getting paid more than black people; it cuts deeper when someone who looks like you discriminates against you too. And Taraji used a lot of profanity, so what’s the difference between what Taraji and Mo'Nique said? Do actors and actresses have an ‘upwork?’ Taraji P. Henson, Mo'Nique, etc. should see what they’re getting paid for doing the project. I think it’s a sign of the times, Fiverr has dumbed down industries. I am a graphic designer too, I had this female Dominican who’s also a designer try to talk me into doing a project for seven hundred to a thousand less than my quote. I ended up walking away because it wasn’t worth my time. And they should have something similar to upwork so they can decide to walk. I think black people have created a monster by saying black people were kings and queens because everyone can’t be kings and queens, someone has to cook and bring the king and queen their meal. What I have learned from watching black women is there’s always a problem especially when dealing with other women. And Oprah Winfrey is the common denominator between Taraji and Mo'Nique. Currently, I no longer fight for equal pay because I’ve watched for almost a decade people doing the least amount of work and getting paid the same as I do. I’m now arguing for a pay system(s) that pays by the weight you carry, how many steps you take and how long it takes. We have smart people, smarter than I, who should be able to figure this out, and now we have AI.
When Monique and Taraji claim they don't earn as much as their "white female counterparts", I have to ask - Who exactly do they have in mind, when they say "white female counterpart"? Because, as much as they'd like to assume, both actresses aren't the household names they think they are. Both appeal to a very niche demographic within the US. Beyond that African-American demographic, I would be hard pressed to find anyone who would even know either actress. Mo'Nique, in particular, was fighting with Netflix, saying her comedy special deal should have been as much as Chapelle, Kevin Hart and Amy Schumer. But those three have been regulars on TV and made a name for themselves for years and had a major following. Even Schumer, the worst of those mentioned, had a much larger fan demographic than Mo'Nique. And after that special aired, it was mostly panned by people who actually watched it. So again, I ask - who exactly are these women talking about when they say "white female actor counterparts"?
And our girl Rogan sums it up with her first two lines of this video. Great! Edit.: looking at it from outside the US, you might wanna say "Angela Bassett is making less than her white counterparts in a majority white country". We all agree that it shouldn't matter, but I think it still does. Also, she's never been the main character of a tv series, as far as I know. I love her! She's an amazing actress, but I think it does matter whether you're the star of a show or not. What about black actresses in black countries? We never talk about them. Black doesn't translate overseas? I live overseas and we loved the Cosby show, the prince of Bel Air was a hughe hit, The colour purple 1985 was a smash hit and I love that movie. Why would people say such stuff? America is america - not the entire planet.
I can only speak for South Africa. In that country, the actors are sorely underpaid, a little more than $8 per hour on average. They can't even work as actors full time. Though the acting and production are excellent, the actors have very little to no control over the present or future profitability of their image, voice, or work. Most of the money goes to the producers.
@@troberson5501That's exactly what I mean. People in Hollywood shouldn't complain that much. I get it, it's an american race thing that I won't be able to understand in its entirety, but they complain on a level that others never reach. Merry Christmas to South Africa!
Because we live in a Capitalist country with a majority white audience with spending power. Unfortunately that's why. The same reason the WNBA is paid less than the NBA. This is global as well as colonization has impacted the globe. I was just in Egypt and non of the shows or videos has Nubian looking actors ..only white passing Arabs. I feel for Taraji and all of these amazing Black women having to deal with this.
It’s profitability. Jennifer star power compare to Angela basset is different. Friends was a blockbuster show so the stars get paid based on that and 911 the show, Angela get paid based on how the show is doing. I remember when the Big Bang was doing so well in the ratings and the whole team got a huge pay raise because of that. Denzel and Samuel Jackson would not be in the same pay grade though they have been in the industry around the same amount of years. There are so many variables in paying actors and some of these actors need to understand that. Get better agency to negotiate for you and don’t just let your team take care of everything for you 🤷🏽♀️
To keep things in context…Variety just reported this on Dec 27th…”Taraji P. Henson Fired Her Team After ‘Empire’ Success Led Nowhere and Cookie Spinoff Failed: ‘Everybody Had to F-ing Go…They Had Nothing Set Up’”…cause there’s a difference between richer than us celebrities crying about their problems and almost literally everybody else.
@@ThisBahamianGyal she should have talked to me! I would have advised her to step outside her comfort zone & go for a Marvel movie or DC movie or some other mainstream IP because she was typecasting herself.
I don't watch movies or shows as much as I used to (mostly because I'm drawing or reading and won't pay attention) but back when I did a lot of films and shows portrayed lifestyles that I couldn't relate to or even begin to understand. I grew up on a farm on an island and to see a show/movie during my younger years meant having to watch things like Boys in the Hood, Baby Boy, and other shows like it. It didn't interest me, but to be fair most movies and shows don't interest me. My thought is that there should be more care in choosing roles and advocating for not being typecasted into particular roles. I know this is probably harder to do in Hollywood but many of the films with black female leads are not going to appeal to large parts of the population, especially if the watcher can't relate or understand specific lifestyle references. -An aside, of course I'm not speaking on fantastical story lines.
I noticed that in the UK black actors and actresses get really meaty and diverse roles. I also agree that black actors and actress should open up their own production companies. That being said, I still think they need to fight for higher wages because we aren't telling white actors and actresses to do that to get higher wages. And let's be honest, Viola Davis can out act and has more accolades than many of the highest paid white actress (including the highest paid).
In the entertainment industry, your talent doesn't matter, your skill doesn't matter, your resume doesn't matter. The *ONLY* thing that matters is how much money you can generate. Mo'Nique's audience is limited to a subset of black women, and so is Taraji P Henson. So they don't generate the revenue to ask for high payouts. They do not have mass appeal. As far as the Angela Bassett and Jennifer Aniston comparison is concerned, Angela Bassett's television series 9-1-1, has an average of 9.62 million viewers per episode. The television series Frends, had an average of 20+ million. We have to *STOP* having these emotional arguments and start using logic.
Hi there. These are all great points. You are absolutely correct, so no argument here. I disagree that I was making an "emotional" argument, though. It was just baffling to me that a woman like Angela could still be so far behind salary-wise than Jennifer. She literally is making peanuts in 2023 compared to what Jennifer made in the 90s. But, your point is valid...Jen was on an extremely popular and wildly successful show. Thanks for watching and weighing in!
If I was a black actress being unfairly paid, this is what I would do: if a producer offered me a job in their next project and they tried to low ball my salary, I would either humbly decline the offer or I would do the project but I would use the movie as free publicity and advertisement for my other endeavors. So I may not have gotten a huge salary for doing that particular project but in doing that project, it helped me obtain MORE REVENUE for my other streams of income. So if I only got $200,000 for a movie, that movie is going to be shown world wide. So that's the time to either put out an album. A clothing line. Start a makeup line. Perfume. Or reach out to companies that sell my favorite product and ask them, hey. I'm going to do a movie soon and I would like u to sponsor me and I'll endorse your product. Etc. So I would actually end up making way more money than what I got doing that project. 👍👏
It's not about colors. It's not about skills. It's about bankability. You need to be a bankable, globally-appealing, enigmatic actor to be naming your price. Unfortunately, you won't be able to work on that because it's God-given. Wonder how the world's geniuses who are supposed to know how the world works are not presidents? It's because they don't have the mass appeal most presidents have. I think the earlier the black community accepts it, the better for them. Just like Asians. Just who among Asian actors can just dictate their price? I think only Jackie Chan and no one else because he's the only one with a global appeal and producers will surely make money from them.
This is not just about pay inequality. It’s about those same people crying keep voting for administrations that’s for big government. She complaining about Uncle Sam taking 50% but was the ambassador for the administration that’s against her tax bracket making money and taxing the shit out of them
My God in heaven! I am so blessed to have found your channel!! You are truly marvelous! Your transparency and gift of insight is almost blinding. it's that clear, that bright! 🎉
@@ThisBahamianGyal my psyche is tuned on, my mind, turned on, and my ears, tuned in! God is with us! He is omniscient and knows exactly when to bring his people together ❤️ May He continue his blessings upon you and your loved ones. Excellent reporting 👏 👍
People need to put some respect on this woman’s name. Taraji has been out for a very long time. I remember her in the movie baby boy that wasn’t even supposed to be this great movie and she outshined everyone in there. She is an amazing actress and has been showing it for decades and the fact that we are sitting here having this conversation and this poor woman is crying about how she doesn’t feel valued and some people are saying that she’s just a rich spoiled millionaire who’s crying about $1 million check that’s not the point.And it’s sad that she is made to feel this way.
i didnt realize her request was so reasonable; its a great shame she has to " push " for the floor or her value; i couldnt imagine not offering her 750 k a picture
She's been acting for 20 plus years she should be set. Sounds like she mis managed her money. She's crying about taxes that everyone has to pay. She should know the game by now she didn't have a plan. She can also get a Husband
@@lashonnmurray2762 no theyre horribly underpaid; i package these people; talent at their level from the african american talent people; this is my day job; i am doing this right now literally; i thought she was screaming for 2 - 4 million the very up end of her worth which is in the 1 - 4 million range; that she has to fight to get 200 thousand is obscene; it really is; a white male star would be getting 4 - 6 million with similar credentials; im not speculating i do this; and most of the time i dont agree with the actors; i find them to be a bunch of lying self indulgent narcissists; as a union director; i have to deal with them; no one has more contempt at times for actors than i do; but this is obscene; that she has to jump through hoops for 500k which should be the floor or her value
While it's true, and sucks, that black actresses spend just as much as other actresses but get paid less per movie the fact is that their movies make less in profit. Why? She said it herself, "I'm tired of hearing that we don't translate overseas." I'd be tired of hearing that crap too, but it's true. My white husband and I buy, rent, (Amazon Prime and Vudo) and go see just as much "black" movies as "white" movies but we're American. We can relate to black actors. We understand where black directors and writers are coming from. Our hearts are rooting for the black heroes because we're American and practically the same. In other countries where they watch American movies, it's not the same. They're not interested in movies with mostly African American actors. They don't relate to the theme. So they don't PAY to watch them. Which translates to less profit. Black movie producers are doing great, they're coming up bigtime and we shouldn't be pushing them down because they're not paying their actors the same. They're working with what they've got AND they're innovating rapidly.
The question I would ask Is how much money, eyeballs, ratings is the black actresses bringing in on their shows or movies. You may have been in the game for a long time and is popular but is the quality of work bringing in high dollars so they could get that 1,2,or 3 million. Jen Aniston brought in the views for Friends and was paid well. It can't always be about race, maybe better quality and value.
Apparently Taraji doesn’t bring seats to the theater and that’s why the Color Purple flopped. You can’t expect millions of dollars when people are not watching your shows or movies. You can win all the awards, but it’s all about how much money you are making them and if it’s worth it to pay you that amount. Monique’s Netflix special bombed also.🤷♂️
Monique told the truth! People keep talking abou her delivery, but I really need us to get out of respectability politics because all it does is confine us to a position where people can easily abuse you. The reason why people had an issue with Monique is because she belongs to a marginalized group that animosity was fueled by fatphobia, stereotypes, respectability politics, and being the palatable 🥷🏾. Black people do know that streotypes attribute negative connotations to black people based off of our skin color it has nothing to do with our behavior. If you are a black woman you is automatically seen as aggressive, angry black woman, not a team player, and problematic. I am proud of Monique for standing up for herself and upcoming black women in the industry when you are facing oppression you dont have the time to be nice thats our problem now we want to use morality and niceness against a system that has no morals and will destroy you in a heart beat. Oprah, Lee Daniels, and Tyler Perry assassinated that womans character, lied on her, tried to make her look crazy so I would be cussing them out too.
I saw Monique talking about that at the time, she was never rude, or used profanity. She was assertive, yes but she was never disrespectful in any of the interviews. I think the media did a good job in painting her as problematic.
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Hey everyone. Because I am being asked the same question, I have decided to put this here and pin it. There are some of you who have asked why I said that the way Mo'Nique went about expressing her frustration was wrong and you don't seem to understand why I said that. I am not referring to Mo'Nique speaking out about the issue of pay gaps in Hollywood. I supported her doing that. She was well within her right to do so and I supported most things she was saying about the situation. The PROBLEM I had was when she went on stage during her stand-up routine (and this was also mentioned on the Steve Harvey daytime show when she appeared as a guest) and told Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels to suck her d*ck. She said a lot of really lewd and unprofessional things because she was frustrated. Please watch those videos for yourselves. Now, some of you have no issue with what she said and you support her lashing out. I happen to disagree. I did NOT like when Mo did that and I think she did herself a huge disservice when she did. So, there you have it. That is why I said I didn't like the way she went about it.
I agree. There are more dignified ways to do it. We as black people tend to be aggressive when we're wronged, rather than follow our forebears example of being dignified when it comes to challenging the system. Think #CycelyTyson #SidneyPoitier #DiahannCarroll #HarryBelafonte. Monique could have handled it off stage. I agree with Monique concerning how Netflix treated her, but not about promoting #Precious. So what Tyler didn't want to pay her to promote the movie; it's your project; promote it. It only can add more money to the coffers and you'd have a better platform to justify what you're fighting against. My other point is, Monique DID make us aware of pay differences for Black actors as well as women, but so did #ViolaDavis, and no-one talks about that. Why?
@@charlesdavis545 Monique got a settlement with Netflix. A lot of people seem to forget that she was right about Netflix. Not only that but shortly after one of the Senior Managers was fired for saying the N word during meetings. Also, several employees filed discrimination lawsuits.
@@charlesdavis545 No, it wasn't Monique's 'project'. It was Tyler Perry, Oprah Winfrey and Lee Daniel's project.
Monique was hired and paid to do a job as an actor and she fulfilled the contract and moved on. If they wanted her to do more ie promotion, they needed to PAY renumeration for that work, her time and inconvenience (time away from her family, mental wellbeing, chill & relaxation she would forgo, etc.).
You represent everything that is toxic in mentality about a certain section of the Black community that has a mindset based in low self-esteem and that Black people have no 'value' and because of that should accept working for nothing ('How dare you actually want to get paid for work as a well known, experienced and award winning entertainer and actor?!').
Yet you & Tyler Perry & Co. wouldn't dare to even suggest to a white woman of a much lesser calibre and status to Monique, to leave her home and come and work for NOTHING. But yet you expect a Black woman to do that and even berate her for wanting to be paid?! That is the epitome of a toxic mindset.
@@marriejames01 Well said! Monique highlighted an important issue, opened doors, inspired and gave others the 'confidence' to challenge discrimination in the workplace.
Very sweet, ur insight is true. I won't take too long with this address but may I point something out that I have noticed among us and we can apply this to Monique's not-so-subtle Rebuttals to Tyler and opera . An others, Tell me if you heard this before truth and lie went swimming 1 day as they got out in the middle of the water in splashing around all of a sudden truth was looking out for lie ind discover that lie jumped out of the water got dressed up in truths Clothes and took off running. So out of the water comes Naked truth chasing chasing the well-dressed lie. Think for a moment what are the lies that we as black people know about Hollywood You and I both know the answer so we don't even have to think about it. I know that when you live in a glass house you shouldn't throw stones well Monique didn't throw the Stone she shattered the foundation that has been built on a lie, Nothing is beautiful or pretty when it shattered. How many black men and women worked in Hollywood and went to their graves knowing the truth but couldn't speak it. She spoke it raw she spoke it truthfully and she spoke it without fear even though there was going to be a backlash even though there were clowns and ccoon a nd other people who weren't going to agree or support Monique. Steve Harvey and so many others But the truth is the truth. Hollywood is not going to change and we are not going to change it. Elijah Muhammad said back in the 30s all the way into the 70s. And minister farrakhan echoes it today we must do for self or suffer the consequences. Some of us still rebel against that Today these people are not our friends they never were our friends we don't have friends. We must look into ourselves and Settle our petty Differences because we are Hollywood every Black man and Woman that would Walk away from Hollywood that industry would sink in less than 24hrs I Don't think any of us would deny that .. Are they powerful yes do they have resources yes do they have government influence in federal support and everything yes are they wicked yes are they deceitful yes are they the Demonic yes are they sadistic yes but that's not who we are and that's not what we should represent a black devil is no worse than a white devil Because a devil is a devil.
Tyler Perry: "I don't believe in giving money away for free" UNLESS your name is Prince Harry 😂 Gave millionaires free security and free housing, but couldn't pay Monique to do promotion.
Oooooooohhhh excellent point. Damn, I wish I had remembered that. Thanks for pointing that out, babes! ❤️❤️
@@ThisBahamianGyal That's all I could think about! 😂 Thank you for this commentary. I'm a new subscriber, now.
Exactly! Tyler is a simp.
Tyler Perry reached out to Meghan. Not Harry. Harry cane along for the free ride.
@@teresab8884But did he reach out to Meghan BECAUSE of Harry? Who’s Meghan without Harry?
Edited to add. Harry doesn’t need the free ride.
The issue is its never your problem until it's on your doorstep. None of them stood up for Monique or helped in the fight, but here we are.. Good luck to her and her career
Don't know about anyone else but Taraji stood with Monique.
She explained why people didn't get behind Monique's fight @9:00
Thank you!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
they dont stand up for each other; they tend to be narcissists; also moniques situation while there was much merit in it ( and im trying to package her right now; i dont read about this on the internet ) while there is much merit in moniques situation; these two situations moniques and ms hensons are different; different circumstances; although they are related; and both women have a legitimate gripe; but theyre not the same; thats over simplifying; ms hensons career is going amazingly ; what hallucinations are you having? having nothing to do with her or moniques situation at times having to do with monique; there is terrible undervaluing of women as they age; and of course black people do get whats bad in a system often the worst; so she is beginning to get old and just because of that her value will start to decline; now pair this with an opposite dynamic of experienced starts valued by experience not the stigma of age command more money; so this is why often they throw away mature stars particularly more so; mature women; some big star men; not most but some are allowed to age; the younger people are cheaper and have a longer time to be a product ; longer time left on this earth; sorry to hear this about ms henson; she has starred in many AAA movies with profit margins of 200 million plus; and should command a value of at least 1 - 2 million per picture fairly; surely 500 thousand should be the floor of what any full budget ( over 40 million dollar movie bids her at ) ; this is sad; but it has nothing to do with your imagined fantasy world of how this all breaks down ; ( what do i know? i just got off the phone with monique's husband this morning ) and i would love to place ms henson in a movie or on broadway ( although she admits shes not up for the challenge of a broadway schedule but maybe if it was 4 - 5 times a way instead of 8 ) ; something i learned from mo nique and sidney is not to wear out stars; not to treat stars badly by working them half to death; a mature star should not be asked to perform live more than 4 - 5 times a week; and the show should be double cast or now ; an exciting new possibility is to augment the live performances with a 10 - 40 dollar a " ticket " ( streaming ticket ) streaming income ; performances streamed live in real time ;
but what you just said and i support monique entirely means absolutely nothing; your analysis etc; her demands are very reasonable; often stars demands are not reasonable; this is
Mo’ Nique, every actress should have supported you! Period!
@@user-cq6mn4dr6q No, she tried to use the issue to push her own unreasonable career demands... her greed ended up doing more harm than good.
Others don’t wanna stand up because of the fear of losing their jobs and getting blacklisted! That’s why I will always respect Mo for standing her ground!
I don't care what anyone says about Monique's delivery and who she cussed out or told off in the process. The principle of the matter is she was speaking truth to power and eventually forced Netflix to pay her what she deserved, which means it was a fruitful endeavor. Taraji and co. completely left Monique out in the cold, when they could've and should've joined forces with her to bring about necessary changes for everyone. The lack of unity among Black people, including Black Hollywood, has been a long-standing driving force in our own struggle to elevate as a community. Love your channel btw! 242 all day!
Absolutely, you're right! It's called Karma...
Amen. Spot on.
I agree.
This lack of solidarity is for all black people no matter the continent, unfortunately 😢
Mo didn’t cuss anyone out. She called them out. The Black community that dragged her should be embarrassed.
Mo'Nique said it perfectly. That's the problem. People always tiptoe around controversial topics.
Its not just controversial , if you look at Monique's filmography she hasn't done solid work in nearly 7 years, after she complained about the pay disparity.
Do for self
ALL of these so-called BLACK ACTORS had their chance to band together and make their voices HEARD when Mo’Nique was reaching out and calling out for her Brothers and Sisters to stand together. EVERY ONE OF THEM NINJAS kept SILENT! and allowed the media lie on her! Oprah-Steve Hardly-Tyler Perry-Lee Daniel’s-Cedric The Entertainer-DL Hughley-Rickey Smiley, and on and on! Mo’nique only got $50,000 for Precious! WTF! Wake up Beloved Sista. Issa, Tyler and Shonda had to “PLAY THE GAME” and “GIVE SOMETHING” to be where they are! Even Spike Lee had to SUBMIT to darkness to the position.
And profanity being used is no EXCUSE to ignore the MESSAGE and the TRUTH!
Ninjas love a smooth LIE, but REJECT the HARSH TRUTH!
The FOOLISHNESS!
Oohhh, I love this "Ninjis love a smooth LIE, but REJECT a harsh truth." I needed this wording. Definitely a true observation!
@@jocelynmoore9432 right! 🔥
The entertainment industry is ran by whyte society and blk folks, begging at the door, looking for crumbs instead of grouping together, and starting their own entertainment industry vehicles. We are our own worst enemy crabs in a barrel.
Preach Mo!!!! She did not go about it the wrong way. People just could not believe the audacity that she had to speak up and speak her truth. Now everyone is saying exactly what she's been talking about. Inequality hurts like hell.
Thanks for watching. Inequality does hurt like hell. Like I said, I supported her message. Her delivery? Not at all. That's not how adults communicate. She has been blacklisted as a result. Think about it. Would you be receptive to your coworker telling you to suck her d*ck. How would you respond? Be honest.
@@ThisBahamianGyalshe said wayyy after the mess started... So her delivery was on POINT
Monique didn’t go about anything wrong it’s just erroneously common when AA speak up about inequality in the work place housing banking no one wants to Hear it. But every other POC or victims of injustice gains a voice and tangible results. AA women have to fight to win then the next fight you start all over. Sad no one understood the number for Monique getting paid 50k for Precious but was expectorant to fly internationally for free. When Monique name was free promotion for Precious . Sad they didn’t back Mo up.
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Exactly!!! 🎯 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@ThisBahamianGyalher and Kee Daniel’s made up recently & he apologized to her so clearly she went about it right.
Wish Monique had given the same light and support Taraji P been getting! Monique spoke facts and she was just given the back hand
Colorism
Monique's delivery is extremely off putting. She needs to address that!!!!
@@thatgirlkells5505 she also was comparing herself to people that had much larger drawing potential
@@michaelcoletta4547 I agree. That's her main issue. Really don't think Black Women realize how much we are hated by so many different demographics. That will always affect your money!!
@@thatgirlkells5505 another problem is that while Mo no doubt cares about the issue, her boycott campaign and the way she went about everything was a little disingenuous... she used the larger issue as a rallying cry to garner support not just for said issue, but to bolster her position regarding demands that most reasonable people would consider quite excessive.
Had she not been so out of touch with her own personal career demands, she might have ACTUALLY helped make progress on the pay gap issue... but because she got greedy, she likely ended up doing more harm than good. I'm sorry but her demands were unreasonable, and her raising the wider issue does nothing to make them more reasonable.
To answer your question as a white audience, I do like seeing black actresses on screen. ESPECIALLY when they can deliver a powerful performance, and not just “inserted” into the movie somewhere for comedic relief.
Let’s keep it ALL the WAY real Zendaya and others like her are killing it cause they’re mix race. they’re palatable and accepting to other ethnicities and races 🤷🏽♀️
I 100% agree that that is playing a huge role in her getting roles.
And it's a reason why I kind of have a knee jerk negative reaction to her.
How many in that top 10 paid list have even won an Oscar?
@@rw2382She can't help her ethnicity. It's not her fault how the system is set up. In addition, she is way younger. Older actresses, regardless of ethnicity tend to get fewer roles. It stinks, but that's the nature of the beast.
I don’t see the allure with Zendaya. It’s like they pick certain people and say they’re gonna force you to like them. I haven’t;t liked her in anything I’ve seen her in. I don’t see the talent or anything special there.
Yes. I'm interested in more black actresses on films but more ranges of black female perspectives instead of the same stereotypical roles.
They use those stereotypes as a way to justify paying black women less the than their counterparts.
The industry only wants us to seen and thought of in a very narrow way.
It’s like maths or english, if repeat a word or equation enough you will learn it and will stick in your mind. That’s exactly what they do with us.
There isn’t really the “inclusion” nor “equality” in reality that they peddle.
thats a whole other problem; we have a production company that is basically centered on black upper middle and upper class projects ; our projects are about black people of the higher socioeconomic classes; there are people who dont want that; and there has been ugliness
Thank you. Yes.
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Another millionaire crying about oppression, this is clownworld 🙄
I’m white and yes, I want to see black actors cast in a wide array of roles and paid equally. What I don’t want is forced diversity that’s used to pander to what woke Hollywood “thinks” we want. Hire based on talent and pay accordingly!
What are you even talking about? Forced diversity?? To be diverse should be a given in films, and obviously they should be paid equally but the issue is why are they being paid unequally? Is it because they are black? Is it because they feel they need to have a black person in that role therefore they are paying them very little? Is it because of the role of the character? Is it because that person accepted a certain amount before and this is something that is known? How much money is she expecting to get? What is the pay based on in Hollywood??
It doesn't work that way unfortunately. And just for the record, we're talking about actors....people who don't shape society, create innovations, are not educators, etc....I'm more concerned about people who are truly making a difference in our community not being compensated their worth than someone who's "acting" in a movie and concerned about their pay.
@@ASmith-jn7kf forced diversity. Examples include hiring a black actress to play Cleopatra, who was not black, the remake of the Little mermaid, and taking a classic character and race, swapping her. The DEI effort has gotten so bad that nobody knows who was hired for their skills, and who was hired because they fit a quota. Claudine Gay is the perfect example of a DEI hire. She committed the ultimate sins academics, and yet remains employed and collecting her $900,000 salary, while the other two university presidents, she testified alongside with we’re fired. The double standard that lowers standards for “minorities“ is going to come back and bite us all in the butt. I am now going to wonder if I meet a Doctor Who is not white, a pilot who is not white, or anyone with whom I trust my life with, made it to their position because of their elastic aptitude and exemplary, skill set or was it just based on immediate characteristics? I don’t know about you, but I don’t wanna fly a plane where the pilot was hired for what they look like. I’m nervous flyer already but now that enters my mind and makes me wonder and question. It was already a problem before DEI became so prolific and honestly, I think that in the 2000s we had reached probably the greatest results in terms of making racism of relic of the past. I’m not saying that it doesn’t exist just that it doesn’t exist in a systemic level, and what so many don’t realize is that as white people it is green, too anyone who is not white or not a man or not heterosexual, as somehow needing a leg up. It’s insulting to those who have actually worked hard and deserve their position. If I was black, I’d be pissed! I would not want people around me to doubt my capabilities because of my skin tone just as I don’t appreciate the fact that it is become AOK to spew anti-hate and rhetoric everywhere. The civil rights movement was all about integrating and equality not equity. The people who fought in those marches, just wanted the same opportunities that everyone else has in this country. We have achieved that goal, but with so many middle-class young people who literally have no meaning in their lives and are so spoiled and narcissistic that they have to invent problems like “trans genocide.” I could go on and on, but you probably won’t even read this in its entirety..
Monique never went about it wrong, she was tired of being of being lowballed and spoke it up . She stood her ground and waited patiently to get what she's worth.
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That's right keep these women in prayer. Monique rode with her from the beginning.
I saw the entire situation with Mo'nique. She behaved appropriately. Her enemies merely did an excellent job gaslighting the public (except me).
She is still not working. What is she on that is making her millions?
Agree. If she started attacking the other actresses and sending them hate or blaming them over something that wasn't really their fault, then yeah I would've understood the backlash or apathy more. But no, she behaved herself like what you said.
They totally dismissed Monique, and what she was trying to say to everyone about the wickedness of the industry
the industry is totally wicked and there are people still black balling monique; she also has her supporters; but ive had people shut the door in my face because i had a monique project; very ugly
And Monique was ridiculed for speaking out and she wasn’t being supported by her peers and friends. Everyone seemed to be against her. Now the tide has turned. The worst thing to do is stop fighting for the pay you deserve. Actors need to band together and unite or create their own production company so they decide what their pay is.
@@alainam.denino67 youre talking to someone who has been there for her all along and is trying to package shows for her; im her friend and ive been there for her; and im there for her now; and i just wrote her an email saying im there for you; and i got the best shows for her
what you said the last line denino is the key; your own production company BUT you have to do the work and have the skills-
It's Hollywood. Think hypocrites. The sole interest is MONEY. Lotsa money. If the movie won't make MONEY everywhere,especially overseas,which is a BIG market, it will not be made.
So proud of Monique. A real woman of class. God bless her.
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I think they need to stop doing Hood movies . Taraji P. Henson role in Benjamin buttons should have gotten her an a academy award .
Exactlyyyyy
I agree. No more maid movies. No more Slave movies. No more hood movies.
They'll stop when we as black people stop supporting them.
So true
Yep
the elephant in the room is that they are looking at how large of an audience u attract,,thats what is affecting the pay of black actors. Denzel and Will SMith , Eddie Murphy are the black actors that can consistently draw a huge crowd worldwide. Chadwick just before he passed managed to do the same. how many people are watching Jennifer Aniston's show versus Angela's show, thats what they will use as the excuse, so people need to keep that in mind. For black female actors, the writing of their parts needs to get better . there is a science to this and people arent looking at that, they just having expectations that never get realized. Will Smith famously explained how he became a box office champ, its because he studied the movies that made the most money and he tailored his entire career to that and put in the work and audience bought it. they dont care about your resume, thats not what its about,. Are people going to come see u when u put a project out is the question
Acting is subjective. Sports is objective. A black actor has a built-in 13% of the American audience. A white actor has a built-in 65% audience.
This is the comment I was about to make. Can you put butts in the seat?! That's what it comes down to.
That would be the case for some, but Angela Bassett, Taraji P. Henson, and Viola Davis are extremely popular and they still don't make a decent salary. They have had breakout movies that made them cross over to the white audience. Benjamin Button was huge. Black Panther movie was huge. The Help was a big box office hit.
@controlmyownlife8902 These women weren't the star of any of these movies.
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Shonda was writing 2 shows for abc when the CEO denied her entrance to Disney land when she had a free pass. He told her something to the effect of..”don’t we give you enough?!” She left them & went to Netflix. Then we got bridgerton
Are you serious? They did that to Shonda for real? This woman has been giving ABC hits for years. Damn!
@@ThisBahamianGyalyep.
It was an ABC executive that told her this via a phonecall. She'd wanted to get her sister a pass. She told this story in a magazine. After the call, she told her team she was changing networks.
Only thing with Friends, it was the #1 TV show in the USA for several years in a row, and the entire cast negotiated together to make that happen. I'm not sure we've ever seen that type of pay on a TV show since (maybe Big Bang?). Plus, this was long before the competition from streaming channels. I understand your point, but I do think it was a different time.
In terms of seeing black actresses in film - ofc I'd love to see them 😍
The problem is BLACK FOLK don’t compete, we WAIT! 😢😢😢😢😢
This will be an unpopular opinion. Mass audience appeal gets the big salaries. It gives those actors & actresses bargaining power at the negotiating table.
One of the things that will hurt your mass audience appeal is forgetting you’re an entertainer & becoming an activist. Entertainment is for escapism.
Hollywood went so political since 2015, they’ve decimated the one thing their careers depend on: good will from the audiences. The bigger the audiences the bigger the paycheck & Hollywood stopped trying to entertain and they just made audiences feel like the “unwashed masses” & the undesirables.
So the audiences moved on.
God bless her but she’s so focused on what someone else got she’s completely blind to the entirety of Hollywood’s problems which have just started.
She’s crying now? They went on strike [and very few cared!] for a greater share from a well they let run dry. 2024 will be far worse.
TV ratings are down.
Movie box offices are down. There were more blockbusters flops than hits so we’ll see less blockbusters as well as less scripted tv shows.
The streaming bubble is collapsing, you will have more actors & actresses competing for less roles because roles are going to begin drying up, more having to do commercials and only those actors & actresses that kept their mouths shut the last several years will weather the storm Hollywood created for itself.
You’re not wrong, can we just go to a movie as a family and have NOT have to see anything sex themed? Can we laugh, have fun and not have to deal with agendas and politics? There is a time for it, make those movies and if people like that kind of stuff, let them enjoy it. Otherwise let’s pay people who do their job well, well.
It's a sensible opinion.
.... And that's not allowed on the Internet 🛜
I absolutely agree. You said it better than I did. Ty!
You're not wrong, and you stated it precisely. Thank you.
Sadly, that is so true. I am an older, white-as-table-salt woman, so I can't exactly weigh in on the issues black actresses have, but I can say if I have to watch another unrealistic car chase or superhero movie, I'm going to scream. Or cry. One or the other! Hollywood is and always has been about the money, not necessarily quality, but modern Hollywood is a whole other level of greedy and lazy. I do not care what the color of the actors are, but I do want depth and quality from the actors and the writing and right now, we got nothin'. Hollywood is churning out nothing but sequels and prequels and do-overs. They have absolutely no original ideas anymore, either on TV or in films. These days, I typically watch reruns or old sitcoms on television, or foreign movies. And it makes me sad because I've always been an avid moviegoer. Nowadays, I go more for a popcorn fix than to see a movie I'm excited about.
Henson is a fabulous actress, who has not had nearly the recognition she deserves (she should have won Oscar for "Hidden Figures" IMO), and it hurts to know she's also not being properly compensated. We need artists like her and I pray she will stick it out.
I think her second Oscar nomination is right around the corner😉
She was truly magnificent in that movie. I remember I didn't know her very much at that time and she just destroyed me.
@@SquirtlePower809 I was appalled that she wasn't even nominated for her performance, while Octavia Spencer (who was great in a supporting role) was... to me Henson was the LEAD of that film and gave an extraordinary performance--a complete characterization of enormous originality and subtlety and a profound emotional impact. I mean, the Oscars rarely get it right, so, whatever--but this actress deserves more recognition and opportunity.
@beamanact 💯 agree! And not that this really matters, but I'm an actual trained actor that won numerous national awards during college and have been a director and acting coach for 17 years, so I've got a pretty good eye for this stuff. And her performance was a masterclass really. She made so many unique and yet profound choices in that performance. I remember just constantly being surprised, in the best way, with every scene that passed. She was meticulously AND YET organically constructing the character as a living ,breathing, fully 3 dimensional person. It is one of those performances where I don't even need to know the back story of the character-- because everything was told to me through her performance. Watching the film, you feel as though you DO know her story and who she is just from the way she delivered her lines. There is so much rich detail that informs you about the character without having to explicitly give a monologs about her past, her family life, her relationships, her interests, etc.-- like all of that is communicated through her performance of the available lines. It's brilliant. And it is something that very few actors have the ability to do. I would argue Cate Blanchett is the BEST at this, even more than Meryl or Viola. But all of them have that same ability. And I agree Octavia is great, but she was nowhere near Taraji in this particular movie. I think it was a timing thing as Octavia was still riding the incredible success of recent performances around those years. And you are right the Academy isn't great with their choices. Better than the Grammy awards imo lol! But still not fantastic. Curious, what did you think about last year's winners? Any that you strongly disagreed with? I will say that best supporting actress was wrong. Jamie did a great job, but it wasn't Academy award level to me. And best actress I still struggle with. I don't mind that it went to Michelle Yeoh, but Cate Blanchett pulled off a MONSTER of a role in Tar. I mean, that was a hurricane of acting lol. Best director I totally agreed with, BUT best film...hrmmm I thought The Fabelmans should've won. And I know it's taboo to break up best film and best director (though I'm not sure why). Best actor, I'm ok with Brendan taking it, though I probably would've gone with Butler in "Elvis". Overall it wasn't a shocking year to me. I have a feeling this year is going to be a mess lol
@@SquirtlePower809 I've been a professional actor for 33 years and a coach and theatre educator for two decades so yeah, i hear you! I don't have a whole lot to say about recent Academy Awards and going forward I will have even less interest and respect for the Oscars due to the imposition of diversity quotas in every area of filmmaking as a prerequisite for consideration for awards. Michelle Yeoh is a phenomenal actress and her performance was great--but also, I think, deservedly, she was being recognized for her body of work as well--this is often the case at Oscars...someone overdue for recognition... and her win last year represented an acknowledgement of that fact. I agree with you about The Fabelmans, but, again, Hollywood is "de-centering" such stories.The 2017 Oscars were a hot mess. I have very strong feelings about "La La Land" which I still feel was hugely overrated and Emma Stone's performance, while memorable, doesn't hold a candle to her work in "The Favourite" or even "Easy A" which I think is a masterful comic performance. Hollywood loves to celebrate itself and "La La Land" was a love letter to the industry. What was weirder--Viola Davis nominated for SUPPORTING actress for "Fences???" Um. What? She was the lead. It's interesting to think what Best Actress category would have been like...I love Meryl but "Florence Foster Jenkins" is not in the same league with even her own best work. Ruth Negga was wonderful in "Loving" which was a very important film that went otherwise unnoticed. Had there been any justice (and let's face it elite awards aren't about fairness) the Best Actress category would have been: Viola, Taraji, Ruth--see where I'm going? In 2017 three actresses of color in one category--no. Now? Absolutely. Oops. That was a long comment. LOL
*I know that this is a serious discussion, BUT, I cannot ignore the fact that the woman humbly brought a box of tissue for Taraji and she took it and did not even acknowledge that woman’s presence. Some may say that I am nitpicking and that she was emotional and that was the lady’s job, but I have always felt that people who take the “server class” for granted are not very nice people. The irony of complaining about being treated less than, whilst being incapable of taking a second to say “thank you” to someone helping you.*
You and I are alike. I also said she should have said thank you. But, Taraji is typically polite to people when I see her in interviews...But, I also think she should have said thanks. I will say maybe she was just emotional and not thinking in the moment. Thanks for watching!
Can you grant some grace and mercy? EVER? Damn.
It’s always the tone or polite police. Let the woman have a human moment FOR ONCE.
Bw are EXHAUSTING.
@@ThisBahamianGyal I love your insightful content and world view, Rogan, and I can tell that you are a very respectful and kind person! Fellow Caribbean girl here (Trinidad).
Nah youre just noticing the hypocrisy of the “all white people are privileged & we all owe money to all blacks who we keep from making money” 🙄 (even though the families of most white Europeans in America today didn’t even get here till 1890-1920, anywhere from *THIRTY TO SIXTY YEARS POST ABOLITION!!!*
The people kanye tried to warn us about, who also came after kick cannon kyrie irving & whoopi recently are who’s behind this race war - they are also who owns Hollywood….they look white so we take the blame for all the evil they do….if whites were the oppressors, then no one would be allowed to talk about us, ya know, like how no one is allowed to upset those that Ye spoke of….
So long as blacks wanna buy the victim narrative being handed to them you’ll continue to notice the hypocrisy….you’ll also see the hatred manifest until we find ourselves in a civil war so we can kill each other off while those behind it get to hide away in their mansions they own from all the money they have from owning every source of media we use from the “news”, to Hollywood to social media to google to this very site…
T. Hensen is known for being a bitch to the film crew and production staff and so is that asshole T. Howard.
But it's all about supply and demand. The show friends was HUGE so of course they had to pay the big bucks ANDDDD there were differences in pay rates per cast member and they were all white. There's a lot that goes into why someone is paid higher than others...
It’s not any deeper than that. This whole video (Taraji) is draining and anti intellectual.
That's what a lot people don't get about these pay gap discussions, there's literally a million things that go into why someone is is getting paid vs what someone else is getting paid. If this was 50 years ago, I could definitely understand where Henson and Monique were coming from, but in this day in age where diversity quotas matter more than anything, even more than merit in some circumstances, those arguments seem weaker today than in the past and that's only one aspect of this situation. We haven't even started into the rise of streaming services vs cable over the past two decade or drawing power for the box office just to name a few more factors. There might be some racial issues that come into why black actors don't do well but that has more to do with overseas markets like China not being very fond of black people than it does with the US, Canada and the UK.
The Friends actors got together and they ended up getting paid a million per episode. In modern family Sofia Vergara was the highest paid and she’s Latina. Well except Ed O’Neill made a little more than her. Taraji or Monique have not been in any global popular show for them to get paid millions an episode. Let’s keep it real.
I’m sorry but complaining about pay inequality in Hollywood is pointless. The entire entertainment industry has always been full of inequality and it always will be as long as we live in a free-market, capitalist society. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about TV, movies, or the music industry. For the most part entertainers who work in these fields will get paid up front based on their earning potential which can vary greatly.
Rihanna has gotten paid a whole lot more in her career than India Arie mainly because she’s way more popular and has generated way more revenue. Denzel Washington has made significantly more money than Woody Harelson because he has had more box office success than Woody. It doesn’t necessarily matter which entertainer is more talented or how many industry awards they've won. It’s all subjective to the public anyway and there are a multitude of reasons why they will spend their money on certain entertainers over others.
Indeed, race (and gender) can be a factor in many consumers’ decisions when it comes to film and television because people will often support actors who look like themselves. But this is an issue that Black American actors should be aware of from the jump because we’re a minority living in predominately white country. So if they can’t deal with this reality, then they should consider choosing a regular job where they can earn an annual salary.
Thanks for your contribution!
Thank. It’s basic economics. There no need for a think piece. I’m not speaking about the content creator. I’m talking about the idea that these successful people are victims when it keeps black people from using critical and informed thinking skills.
Yep, was thinking this same thing. She is not a very popular actress so her compensation will not be up there. I'm sure there are other nuances to pricing and compensation, but I suspect that is the biggest determinant.
Exactly my thoughts
Truth.
If you’re consistently working on low budget productions with the smaller studios, you can’t expect some huge check. You WOULD have to repeatedly negotiate.
When someone wants Denzel on screen, they factor his proposed salary into the money they request for a budget. They APPROACH him!
So many Black actresses are one dimensional character types and they’re all the same characters. They’re easily interchangeable and that’s why so many of us-even as other Black women-get confused about who was who in what. It’s why production companies don’t necessarily care about who they’re getting, so they don’t plan for it.
It is no longer how it was when we know good and daggon well that Vanessa was Teri and Vivica was Maxine in Soul Food.
Exactly, roles should be made directly FOR Viola Davis at this point.
I worked in security at a tv station and I usually met celebrities. I met Taraji once and was struck by how genuine she seemed. When she said hi she made me feel seen unlike other celebrities were u feel you’re a by the way thing. She looked at you saw you acknowledged you and made you feel seen.
I wanna attribute that to her being from DC!! Sike! Just being silly
Yes to seeing Black actresses on screen. But it needs to be intelligent shows like drama, Sci-fi, suspense , etc. Not typical black love movies and hood ish.
They don’t write things like that on BET
I hate to say talking about not making enough right now is just not great today. So many people are struggling to pay their bills so when they see an actress, no matter her race complain about how much she makes, it’s frustrating. Black male actors make around the same amount as their white counterparts depending on how popular they are. I think unfortunately there’s a stigmatism around black females in general that may be the popularity of a black female actress is not as high regarded as a white female actress. Black men don’t seem to have that problem. I think unfortunately the stereotype of a black woman is very negative a lot of times, so when that stereotype is put into a show I think it can turn viewers away. When only 7% of your viewers are black women (if all watch) it can make it difficult. Lastly Comparing what someone made on friends versus what anyone makes on any show today is it unreasonable. That show made way more money than any show today because viewership has decreased so much. You also when comparing a TV show and the amount the actresses make you need to look at how much the show is making. I don’t think the show the Angela is on makes nearly as much money as the one Jennifer and Reece are on. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. I believe everyone should be paid what they should be paid the matter their race but I think there’s so much more that goes into it. I think the biggest thing is that black actresses need better characters that are not so much what many see as a negative stereotype. And I sincerely hope that happen.
Best logical and objective comment on here. 💯 Spot on.
Exactly!!! Plus these women have production companies. They are producing and writing there own show’s and that’s how they make more profit. Instead of all of them creating hair care lines start producing your own material. 🤷♂️
The people must understand that part of the issue is black, white, Asian, Hispanic people support white TV . Not so much when it comes to black TV. Why is that? Well it's because black TV focuses on the black stereotypes mostly. That hurts the progress
But.... Tyler Perry makes more money than ANY actor or actress! But he is known as being EXTREMELY cheap. with the people who work for him.
Oh I didn’t know that
@@awillis244 Sure. His writers have publicly complained about that for YEARS!
Well they stayed, why complain about something & continue to do it. That's not the only job.
@@lashonnmurray2762 Who told you they stayed? Many eventually left when they could .And then complained about a former cheap ass boss!!! Questions?
He had some writers at one point. The only way he became a billionaire is because he writes and produces all his shows and movies. He writes everything in days and films a movie in like 4 days and it shows. Most writers and producers it takes them months or years to finish one project. Tyler is cheap, but he’s top 4 of wealthiest film directors with George Lucas and Steven Spielberg. That’s hilarious 😂😂😂😂. The crap that he does is horrible with no creativity
Doesn’t matter how good you think you are, if the paying audience are not buying it, then you’re not going to be over paid.
Exactly, Monique and Taraji?? No.
Exactly!!! Last thing watched from Monique was the Parkers!!! 😂😂😂. And she wants to get paid millions 😂😂😂😂
The people who pay to watch are the ones who decide if it’s worth paying for.
If it’s a good movie, sure I’d watch/support it. The thing is, we are being told we need to watch/support them bc the actors are of a certain race. Being black does not make a movie good. But there are plenty of good movies with black casts - one of my all time favorites is American gangster. If you’re asking specifically about women, I personally find that just like comedians, when it comes to acting men are much stronger. They leave much deeper impressions on me. I can’t remember a single hysterical joke I’ve ever heard from a woman nor can I name you a single movie I’ve truly enjoyed that had an all female lead, except maybe clueless but there were guys in it that helped make it what it was, it wouldn’t have been so great without the guys. 🤷🏼♀️ Hollywood needs to focus on original story telling, not rewriting history to make one race look more powerful than the other while misrepresenting who the real people were. Also, people need to stop going to social media to tell whytes we aren’t allowed in the theater on opening night bc that’s solely for them…but what we can do is go there TO PAY FOR THEIR TICKETS THEN MAN THE DOORS TO PREVENT OTHER WHYTES FROM ENTERING….who TF do they think they are & who TF do they think we are??? That completely turns me off from wanting to support *ANYTHING* from that community…..oh & it would help if they came up with their own characters instead of casting black actresses as already well known beloved characters on purpose & not bc they’re the best for the role then crying r-ism when we don’t want to watch it. That’s my honest opinion.
Thanks so much for the feedback. I enjoyed reading your comments!
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I would absolutely love original stories from other countries, there’s got to be a goldmine of them!! Especially ones that don’t involve other races at all!
@BrandiBAR there are plenty of African stories in free domain so they are doing it on purpose, especially Disney. Kiroku is a good one.
@@Naadeneo you’re absolutely right about it being done one purpose. What most people aren’t aware of (even though, those responsible actually admit it….but we aren’t “allowed” to talk about this particular group w/o either comments getting deleted or being attacked for being “anti-something or other”, so to tell you who I’m talking about, I have to speak cryptically so this doesn’t get deleted by bots that are programmed to delete any comments that don’t favor them bc this group also controls this very platform, let’s just say those I am referring to are who Kanye told us about) they are behind this race war they’re desperately trying to instigate - people believe whytes are responsible for lots of shit we actually didn’t do, “they” did it but they taught us whytes were responsible. (Do u know who owned the textbooks Americans learned from in the 80’s/90’s?? Ya know the girlfriend of that creep who had that island that lots of politicians & celebs visited where bad things were being done to young people?? Well, HER FATHER owned our textbooks- so we were lied to such extremes that you wouldn’t believe it - especially in our “his-story” books)
I often make these 2 point to people bc getting people to believe me is the challenge but once they’re intrigued enough & they begin to look into this for themselves, they’ll find tons of info & even admissions to this being true;
Point 1:
If whytes were the oppressors, do you think all other races would not only be allowed but be encouraged to trash us as often & loudly as they do? They’re encouraged to attack us by our country’s most powerful & influential institutions (government, media, Hollywood, corporations- all of which are dominated by Ye’s foes, mind you) if whytes were REALLY the oppressors & in control of everything, we would have come up with an accusatory word or phrase to call people to shut them up the way they have their “anti-something or other” word they accuse everyone of who so much as accidentally insults them. (Not only is Ye a perfect example but so is whoopi, Nick cannon, kyrie irving - all 3 unintentionally upset this group & were forced to publicly apologize to them - whytes never get any such treatment & thats bc *ITS NOT US WHO’S REALLY IN CHARGE & POWERFUL ENOUGH TO OPPRESS ANYONE!!!* In fact it’s our unwillingness to ruffle feathers that’s allowing the real oppressors to blame us!!)
2nd does it make any sense to you why our own govt would be destroying our country & weakening us to such an extent as to leave us completely vulnerable to an outside attack on our own soil?? Why on earth would the leader of the most powerful country on earth go out of their way to destroy their own power & prestige? Well, if I told you that *ALL OF THE TOP TEN POSITIONS WITHIN THE CURRENT PRESIDENTS CABINET WERE ALL FROM THIS ONE GROUP WHOM WE ARENT ALLOWED TO SPEAK OF* all 10 of his *TOP ADVISERS* not to mention top donors *TO BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES* are from this one group & how *THEY ALL HAVE CITIZENSHIP NOT ONLY IN AMERICA BUT ALSO IN ANOTHER COUNTRY IN THE M.E. THAT STARTS WITH AN I & ends in an L* then suddenly the fact that our govt is in fact being run by agents of a foreign nation starts to paint the pic of exactly what’s going on here.
They are intentionally weakening us from the inside between the open border, the alphabet mob that’s sterilizing CHILDREN via messing with puberty & surgeries, pushing victim narratives for certain groups & villain narratives for others & they use their ownership over our media to fan the flames that further divide us, hence why disney (currently owned by one of “them”) is doing what they’re doing. They’re not actually interested in telling amazing stories with black characters, their intention isn’t to entertain us, it’s to manipulate us, to mentally condition us, to piss us off & make us hate each other. Divide & conquer.
By placing black actors in white roles, they anger whytes while furthering the victim narrative of blacks…which in turn creates more animosity amongst blacks for whites.
It’s all very clear as day once this agenda is pointed out to us…like I said if u look into this for yourself you’ll find lots of evidence including many of them admitting that what I’m saying is true.
Look up “1500 rabbi’s sign petition” you’ll see one aspect as to what I’m talking about.. look at who’s at the top of every organization/corporation pushing these agendas. Or even every celebrity who denounced their “white privilege”, you’ll find people like chelsea handler, the Arquette sisters, David schwimmer, seth rogan, sarah silverman, Sasha baron cohen - it’s not a “COHEN-cidence” that these people *ONLY CLAIM TO BE WHYTE WHEN THEYRE CONDEMNING ‘WHYTENESS’* yet they claim they are NOT WHYTE but that they are jay ish whenever they aren’t trashing whytes.
So as unfortunate as it is, you’ll never see any great black stories be turned into movies, *ESPECIALLY NOT BY DISNEY!!* bc that’s not what it’s about….mark my words on that.
I’ll be stunned if this doesn’t get deleted lol
Just yesterday, my husband and I had this same conversation pointing out how ownership and camaraderie would save many Black actors and actresses. I am glad you pointed out how others have found success using that formula. Like most things in life, you'll succeed if you do for yourself rather than complain all the time about fitting into a group that doesn't have your best interests at heart. We talked about several things in line with your points.
Great video, Gyal.
Have a merry Christmas. 😊
Thank you! I feel the same way. I don't need a seat at anyone's table. I will go find the empty chair somewhere else and have a seat. Merry Christmas, honey!!
What she said about not appealing oversees is interesting and I never thought about marketability in different cultures.
The overseas market is also where a lot of money is made.
The black Mermaid movie completely flopped overseas.
@@jeremiahsams2848Putting a black actress as a mermaid is laughable. Non-seafaring people wouldn’t have myths about mermaids but Disney did it for…….reasons. To push an agenda. Like others say instead of always begging to be shoe horned into other people stories why not mine and/or create your own.
@@jocelynmoore9432that’s where most of the money comes from! The little mermaid did well in the USA, but flopped and lost money over seas. People don’t understand how these big budget movies work. We believe it just revolves around the USA and it doesn’t. If Latin America or specially China or any Asian countries doesn’t support it they don’t make money.
She can cry me a river!
Lol..she has hit the wall at her age and is not a big Hollywood draw for fans point blank period. She's worth 22 million dollars and needs to better with money. By now she should've seen the jobs weren't coming as often and made plans to survive in another field or invested her millions. NO matter the skin colour some careers are limited and have expiration dates
Taraji Henson, Yes enough is enough periodz. The truth must be told, love you young lady; Almighty God is Good. 🙏❤💪🏽
I know im going to catch a lot of flack for this, but it really is supply and demand. If people like what youre putting out, youre gonna get paid. Now if as a whole average white people get paid more than average black people then thats a horse of a different color. Id be interested to know what these movies/shows gross. Could explain why youre not getting paid as much. Another thing to consider is most black women I run into are overbearing and entitled. That doesnt translate well overseas or anywhere else. Think about it. If white people have to defend themselves against accusations of being racist and are born inherently racist then why are we above defending ourselves against stereotypes about our community. All I see is we proving people right most of the time.
Jennifer Aniston didn't get 1 million in the 90s because she was white or because she deserved it.
Friends was the top rated TV show at the time and was raking in millions globally.
Heck, the haircut Aniston got on the show even became popular across America, called The Rachel.
The pairing of Aniston and Schwimmer and their on/off relationship was water cooler talk for millions.
By the time their contract was up for negotiations, Schwimmer was going to be paid a million dollars.
The rest of the cast was going to be paid lower, with Lisa Kudrow and Matt LeBlanc being paid the least.
It was Schwimmer who fought for everyone in the main cast of Friends to get paid the same as him, which made Aniston, Cox and Kudrow the highest paid female TV stars at the time.
So unless Angela Bassett's on a TV show that is being aired globally, raking in millions, is well loved by the masses for her role on said show and is fighting for equal pay for all her cast members during contract negotiations, it's just wrong to be comparing her to Aniston.
I totally agree with your comment. All these black actressrs should get together and set up.tbeir businesses. Why do every black woman that have made a name for themselves feel the need to get into the beauty industry. Do something more interesting and educational.
The other thing that we have to understand is that black actors cater to primarily black audiences. Black people only make up 13% of the population. And then we narrow that down even more if they’re catering to primarily black women which brings it down to a smaller niche at 7% of the population.
Facts and then factor in children! Then bLK people that just don’t care about that show or movie. It makes a huge difference. Don’t forget overseas because that’s how most movies make money
And I'm tired of all these celebrities complaining and crying about how much is left for them. They still make much more than their worth celebrities are spoiled and many if not most do not deserve/earn what they are paid try living on minimum wage or even double minimum wage and see how hard life is. You don't help society you don't produce anything you just entertain so if you don't like how much you earn get out of the business you don't belong there and the public who is responsible for your salary don't need you.
The problem is your salary isn’t based on your movies but on how many tickets “ your name specifically adds to the gross sales”. TH is an okay actress, but the majority of America won’t go see a movie just because she’s in it. Julia Roberts, SandraBullock- they will. People support they own. Best believe every Italian will show up for DiNiro. All the Irish going to show up for Thom Cruise. Sad but True. There are over 40 million black folks in America. When a black actress or actor is on the roster we need to buy them tickets. We need to stop buying damn chains and whips and make our own movies and broadway musicals . Period
The ACCURACY of this commentary on typecasting. 🙌🏾🙌🏾 Yes!! This is why we need more black creators making solid content. I love the movies that Isaa Rae has been putting out. Her TV shows too.
Thank you so much!! Thanks for watching.
You have to understand the reason why we aren’t doing well in Hollywood isn’t just because of the pay. It’s also because we’re not getting the material to show off our talent. We aren’t getting the writing to show off our talent. The material is weak as stereotypical and is exploitative at times. Now is the time for us to do our things. Now is the time to stop with the exploitation of things. And start putting out good shit. Now is our time.
You really believe that?? Do you need me to list all of the movies and TV shows in the last few years that had INCREDIBLE BLACK ROLES and scripts. But, there can always be more, I'm cool with that of course.
@@SquirtlePower809Please do cause a lot of it is trash and not quality. Most of the best movies I watch about black peopleor historical figures have been produced by Jewish and white people.
@@SquirtlePower809 name them.
@@strklo absolutely!!!
@ASmith-jn7kf wakanda films, get out, US, (his other movie with the alien lol, can't remember the name for some reason), Empire, empire records, dream girls, the color purple, till, 12 years a slave, the US vs Billie Holiday, the butler, django unchained, everything Samuel L Jackson has done, everything will Smith has done, blackish, Leslie Jones, The help, the woman king, BET, straight outta Compton, bad boys films, ma raineys black bottom, moonlight, hidden figures, black klansman, judas and the black messiah, if beale street could talk, fences, Da 5 bloods, King Richard, the inspection, the hate u give, one night in Miami, The harder they fall, Respect, Jennifer Hudson talkshow, Passing, dear white people, concrete cowboy, master, honk for Jesus save your soul, jazzmans blues, ummmm what else....there is a ton more but that's all off the top of my head
The Jennifer Aniston comparison isnt really accurate. Friends made money, lots of it, for NBC. All 6 made the same. All 6 stated they'd only go as long as they did IF they all got that bank together. NBC wasn't ready to let the Friends revenue go. It was a joint team effort they took on to make that $1M per episode and all 6 of them made that much. Not just Jennifer.
To add for context, I don't know anything about The Morning Show... I'm only talking about the Friends reference.
I was looking for this comment. I agree and I also didn't agree with the comparison. First of all they didn't make that amount in the beginning but after the huge succes. It's one of the best sitcoms. It's like when they say woman in soccer and man don't get the same. But what the man soccer bring in of money is nothing compared with woman
Hello from London, I just discovered your channel and subscribed, thank you for doing such an amazing job and giving great content.When Monique spoke about it year ago nobody was supported her, the silence was crazy and most of the people in the industry were saying oh Monique is the problem, she is difficult, blablabla and it's sad that only now people realise that Monique was right. She got an apology for Lee Daniel, and her netflix special. I've been supporting Monique since day one and i will continue to do so. My issue with Taraji is that during the Monique Debacle she didn't say a word and now she is crying. Mind you i love Taraji but i think us as black people need also to take some accountability for the lack of support in our community.
Hi!!!!! I am planning to return to London next year, God-willing. I only passed through on my way to Dublin. LOL. Thanks so much for subscribing. Now, to your point....Here is why I think Taraji was silent. Taraji has an excellent working relationship with Tyler Perry. She has said numerous times that he was the first person in Hollywood to pay her, her worth...it was like $500k. That allowed her to negotiate bigger deals. Mo'Nique was telling Tyler to suck her d*ck and being very disrespectful. There is NO WAY Taraji is gonna support Mo'Nique in that moment.....even if she felt she had a point.
Take it away from Hollywood....let's say you were working in an industry earning £50,000 for years and someone (whom you consider family) came along and offered you £250,000 and that allowed you to negotiate a higher salary. Let's say your coworker had a financial issue with this person and told him to suck her d*ck on social media. Who you riding with? Even if you agreed with that person in principle....You are probably not gonna speak in their defence because of what they said to that person you consider family.
Sorry....I know this was long.
@@ThisBahamianGyal Hello, oh nice to hear that you are planning to visit London . Regarding Taraji you made a valid point yes she was in a tricky situation however i would have appreciate to hear say at least ; " i don't agree with the direspectful comment Monique made towards Tyler but she has point regarding salary and black actress in Hollywood ". Also remember that Monique was upset for a valid reason; because Tyler has been shady to her and he later apologize to her during the phonecall that Monique famously recorded , Tyler knows what he did to her was wrong. Let's keep pushing and work hard and hopefully things will get better for all of us in the future.
When Jennifer Aniston did Friends There were basically four networks on television. Now there is an endless amount of content online. All actors are paid commensurate with the ratings they bring n. That's how it works.
Exactly. Some how it’s a racist issue.
what’s the excuse with all the top shows in the 90s. Why didn’t they get comparable pay? Martin Lawerence Show (all the actors were already known actors) Fresh Prince of Bel Air…. Living Color…. Living Single …. 23:20 even this Heavy hitter Director and Producer Michael Bey said this. This was in the 90s.
@@marjorielauture4497you can’t compare any of those shows to Friends lol. You think the cast of Full House made as much as friends? Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We don’t translate over sees because black actresses are often marginalized to only black roles. Meaning these movies won’t be receptive over sees because they’re too specific to black AMERICANS. being that black Americans make up only 13% of America, our targeted stories won’t be received the same way that other movies do, because most people won’t be able to identify or understand the foundation of our films which is black American culture. Rather than white actors get roles that translate across all demographics, Harry Potter is a great example. Why can’t a black movie just be a bunch of powerful wizards, why do they all have embody a single world view. Think about how many black fantasy or sci-fi movies exist, not many
Yes, ownership is the key to Black success not waiting for someone else to promote your career.
HERE COMES THE TRUTH... It's what she said it's all the above, they should find a way to band together, and use their influence to support each other 🙏😇💯
Yes, I support Black actresses!!!
Monique never went about it wrong, she did it the right way
I’ve always found the whole “They’re like the black (insert name here)” compliment to be incredibly condescending. If someone just said Viola Davis was of the same acting caliber as Meryl Streep, it would’ve been a genuine compliment. Instead it’s basically like saying “hey, you could never dream of being comparable to this talented white actor, but you are still incredibly talented… for a black person.”
That is precisely how I look at it, too!!! Thanks for articulating that so perfectly. ❤️
Interesting. I never thought of it that way. I actually thought it was more of a direct comparison, but highlighting the racial aspect in a positive way- like Viola Davis is the black Meryl Streep literally means they are equals but one is white and the other is black. She's the black Queen of Acting. Idk. I can see it both ways honestly.
I'm a white dude (ugh its so tired having to always start sentences with what my race and sex is) but anyways - my fave actresses are black (viola davis, Whoopi, Mo, Angela Bassett, etc.) And i absolutely want them to be paid more. One thing i need to say is-- in the entertainment industry your pay is commensurate with what YOU can bring in. And sadly, Taraji is not Tom Cruise. A lot of these amazing actresses are not blockbuster hits. Like you compared Jennifer Aniston, but she is a bigger name and Friends was a MASSIVE SHOW. So I'm honestly struggling with this topic, because i do WANT these women to get paid more and be supported, but i also realize that this is a business and they pay for what the client can produce. Am i out of line on this? If you can show me a bunch of white actresses getting paid more than black actresses and they are at an equal level of stardom, then i will absolutely stand with them. But I'm not sure that is the case right now tbh. You even mentioned Tracy Ellis and Gabrielle Union-- lets be real, outside of the black community, most people dont know who they are. They are still not the global superstar types.
Thanks for the feedback. These were really good observations. Thank you!
@ThisBahamianGyal I hope I'm not coming across combative, cause I really do feel for them and want them paid more. Idk I'm just struggling with what is realistic vs what is idealistic, does that make sense? Anyways, I appreciate your videos, they always give me things to think about in more depth.
You are correct! They are not international A list actresses. Look at Salma Hayek she makes good money or Sofia Vergara from modern family made the most and she’s not even an actress lol. It’s about how much the filmmakers will make at the end! 🤷♂️
Nobody goes broke making money and living within her means. Buy $1m house instead of $6m house. Buy $100k car instead of $400k Rolls Royce. Invest in Index funds and live happily ever after. Just like Mike Tyson said, "As much as you work hard to make money, there is someone working twice as hard to separate you from that money". Anyone who has ever seen $2million in US should never be poor again in life.
Did you even watch the video? Because it seems you missed the point.
@@MissTi23 I didn't miss the point. If you feel unappreciated and underpaid, MOVE! Take what you can and start something for yourself. That's how artists and musicians moved into branding, liquor, perfumes, etc. Be an employer for once and stop whining.
24:50… That’s how so much of the Black audience gets lost. That’s how small the call is for Black actresses is-how SLIM the pickins.
Personally, I can name 30 or so Black actresses without pause. [I can also do that for maybe 5 or 6 other races, but that’s because I have ridiculously diverse viewing habits bordering on embarrassing.] Anyhoo… Many of us can only think of 3 or 4 when put on the spot. The reason for that is because they’re all cast for the same role, movie after movie and show after show. The roles are so stereotypical that the actresses are interchangeable, which makes them easily forgotten or confused with each other. Or sometimes they’re so many of US in a movie with such poor writing or character construction that someone gets left out in the recall.
For example: Soul Food was beautifully written. Everyone will remember Maxine and Teri, and what their beef was and who played them and everything else. If I ask about Girl Trip though… If someone only saw the movie once, they will either remember that Tiffany Hadish was crazy but can’t think of her character’s name, forget Jada was there, only remember Queen Latifah because she was still playing Khadijah 20 years later, OR, somehow, confuse Regina Hall with Tessa Thompson-but never actually know either of their names or who the character was or what they had going on. *ahem* The same could be said for Ocean’s 8 though. Sometimes, there are just TOO MANY PEOPLE in the movies. Most of Our movies are like that.
Hollywood, as a whole, needs to learn how to scale back and focus on individual characters again, and I wouldn’t be the least bit mad if they started with Black movies.
You explained this so beautifully. When I first heard about this, I like alot of people, was fealing some kinda way about it. But, I get it now. Shame on Tyler Perry and Oprah for going along with this mess.
Thanks so much for watching and for saying that!
Pay inequality is real in all industries in USA; low balling offers, it's disgusting in 1st world.
Black actresses from the beginning warned them. Monique ain’t the first to say this. This has been common knowledge forever.
YES! I want to see MANY more black actresses on the stage, small and large screens!!
We need to see more black leading ladies. But for the love of god please no more stereotypical shows and movies. We all come from different backgrounds and upbringing. They need to diversify the storytelling that they do.
MOE MOE The way she did was just right No sugar coating just straight up. People cooled to Monique because she’s brown not light and not a size 4.
Taraji need to put in more work in like Denzel Washington and Samual Jackson for her to get a raise. She still makes more money than the average working person.Taraji is not top tier actress so she needs to stop playing the victim make your money work for you.Invest in business,real estate etc.Create a business get better financial people to negotiate more money for you.But that crying aint going do it.
She seems to be a good actress, but I honestly don't see the range. It's sad that she feels this way, but not everyone is going to make it. The revamped "Color Purple" is nothing I want to see again. Where are the writers? Write new material. Create something innovative. So far, I don't see much innovation. A strike is not the answer. As far as promoting your film, the actors go to events like Cannes and do not get paid. Monique became defiant about not doing something that every other actor does willingly. she had the opportunity for international exposure had she attended the various global film festivals.
we have to look at viewership when we talk about pay disparity. Angela Bassett 9-1-1 has 5.2M viewers vs. Jennifer Anniston Friends had a whoping 52.M viewers. More viewers more advertisment dollars.
I don’t mind who’s on the big screen as long as a story is good.
I have a lot of respect for Mo’Nique. She was the only comedian that didn’t throw Rosanne under the bus. She said she knew who Rosanne was when nobody was looking.
I liked that, too. I also think she sympathized with her because she knew what it was like to be blacklisted. But, I like that comment.
I grew up in the 70's so I watched many multiracial programs. I'm not saying it was perfect. I was a kid and didn't think twice about who was on tv or in a movie. Today, I understand black artists want their own programming and stations and are proud. If you create content that caters to a specific group, you know you don't make the money and that decreases income. Your example with Martin and Will appealed to a large audience. It's all marketing, investors and audience. If the actors want more money, you know the producers and investors want even more. I think another example is women vs male pro sports. The NBA will make more money than the WNBA for the same reasons.
She needs to save her money regardless of her race.
Actually, Lee Daniels ended up apologizing to her for his role in that incident so I don't think Monique went about the situation wrong at all. Like she said you have to speak out and if you have to be the first one to take the attack then that's what you do because that's what a real activist does! Monique was real and she took it to a real level and now people are understanding what she was saying
She is still not working!
Tyler was part of the Monique situation He does not pay. Why did he not hook up Monique??? Is that the white person fault.
You must admit there are no great roles made for blacks very often. Very few get get roles that call for a role model black person. They're given stereotypical roles or are given a role once played by a different race. The black directors can't think outside the box and create something that is not ghetto. There are some great black actresses. Alfre Woodard, Cicely Tyson, Angela Basset, Halle Berry, Octavia Spencer, Hattie McDaniel and so on. When there is a population of black at 13.6,you have to make the money by playing to the population. Hollywood needs to make black new roles that are appealing to all or most races before they will become as famous as the very few there are. Don't take stereotypical roles and only take roles that are going to make your skills better.
Who's watching your movies & sitcoms? That's how you get paid.
I thought this was known. Which is why diversifying your income is important.
Diversifying the movies would be good too. I love horror/supernatural movies. I don't rush to the theater to see slave movies. Or remakes.
And we did have a black "Hollywood", but it was labeled black exploitation, by black folks at that, and it killed the careers of many writers, actors, producers, etc.
Welcome back, hope you're well. Looking forward to this video.
Thank you so much, babes!!
I may be wrong but I never heard Taraji P. Henson make this into a black-and-white issue. This is a black-on-black issue. Because in almost every industry white people are getting paid more than black people; it cuts deeper when someone who looks like you discriminates against you too. And Taraji used a lot of profanity, so what’s the difference between what Taraji and Mo'Nique said? Do actors and actresses have an ‘upwork?’ Taraji P. Henson, Mo'Nique, etc. should see what they’re getting paid for doing the project. I think it’s a sign of the times, Fiverr has dumbed down industries. I am a graphic designer too, I had this female Dominican who’s also a designer try to talk me into doing a project for seven hundred to a thousand less than my quote. I ended up walking away because it wasn’t worth my time. And they should have something similar to upwork so they can decide to walk. I think black people have created a monster by saying black people were kings and queens because everyone can’t be kings and queens, someone has to cook and bring the king and queen their meal. What I have learned from watching black women is there’s always a problem especially when dealing with other women. And Oprah Winfrey is the common denominator between Taraji and Mo'Nique. Currently, I no longer fight for equal pay because I’ve watched for almost a decade people doing the least amount of work and getting paid the same as I do. I’m now arguing for a pay system(s) that pays by the weight you carry, how many steps you take and how long it takes. We have smart people, smarter than I, who should be able to figure this out, and now we have AI.
When Monique and Taraji claim they don't earn as much as their "white female counterparts", I have to ask - Who exactly do they have in mind, when they say "white female counterpart"?
Because, as much as they'd like to assume, both actresses aren't the household names they think they are.
Both appeal to a very niche demographic within the US.
Beyond that African-American demographic, I would be hard pressed to find anyone who would even know either actress.
Mo'Nique, in particular, was fighting with Netflix, saying her comedy special deal should have been as much as Chapelle, Kevin Hart and Amy Schumer.
But those three have been regulars on TV and made a name for themselves for years and had a major following.
Even Schumer, the worst of those mentioned, had a much larger fan demographic than Mo'Nique.
And after that special aired, it was mostly panned by people who actually watched it.
So again, I ask - who exactly are these women talking about when they say "white female actor counterparts"?
This is the part they tune out
And our girl Rogan sums it up with her first two lines of this video. Great!
Edit.: looking at it from outside the US, you might wanna say "Angela Bassett is making less than her white counterparts in a majority white country". We all agree that it shouldn't matter, but I think it still does. Also, she's never been the main character of a tv series, as far as I know. I love her! She's an amazing actress, but I think it does matter whether you're the star of a show or not. What about black actresses in black countries? We never talk about them.
Black doesn't translate overseas? I live overseas and we loved the Cosby show, the prince of Bel Air was a hughe hit, The colour purple 1985 was a smash hit and I love that movie. Why would people say such stuff? America is america - not the entire planet.
I can only speak for South Africa. In that country, the actors are sorely underpaid, a little more than $8 per hour on average. They can't even work as actors full time. Though the acting and production are excellent, the actors have very little to no control over the present or future profitability of their image, voice, or work. Most of the money goes to the producers.
@@troberson5501That's exactly what I mean. People in Hollywood shouldn't complain that much.
I get it, it's an american race thing that I won't be able to understand in its entirety, but they complain on a level that others never reach.
Merry Christmas to South Africa!
Because we live in a Capitalist country with a majority white audience with spending power. Unfortunately that's why. The same reason the WNBA is paid less than the NBA. This is global as well as colonization has impacted the globe. I was just in Egypt and non of the shows or videos has Nubian looking actors ..only white passing Arabs. I feel for Taraji and all of these amazing Black women having to deal with this.
It’s profitability. Jennifer star power compare to Angela basset is different. Friends was a blockbuster show so the stars get paid based on that and 911 the show, Angela get paid based on how the show is doing. I remember when the Big Bang was doing so well in the ratings and the whole team got a huge pay raise because of that. Denzel and Samuel Jackson would not be in the same pay grade though they have been in the industry around the same amount of years. There are so many variables in paying actors and some of these actors need to understand that. Get better agency to negotiate for you and don’t just let your team take care of everything for you 🤷🏽♀️
Friends show was boring
@@BRKS627for you, but not for millions and millions of people worldwide.💅
To keep things in context…Variety just reported this on Dec 27th…”Taraji P. Henson Fired Her Team After ‘Empire’ Success Led Nowhere and Cookie Spinoff Failed: ‘Everybody Had to F-ing Go…They Had Nothing Set Up’”…cause there’s a difference between richer than us celebrities crying about their problems and almost literally everybody else.
I just read that today that she fired her team. She should have had all kinds of deals waiting after Empire.
@@ThisBahamianGyal she should have talked to me! I would have advised her to step outside her comfort zone & go for a Marvel movie or DC movie or some other mainstream IP because she was typecasting herself.
I don't watch movies or shows as much as I used to (mostly because I'm drawing or reading and won't pay attention) but back when I did a lot of films and shows portrayed lifestyles that I couldn't relate to or even begin to understand. I grew up on a farm on an island and to see a show/movie during my younger years meant having to watch things like Boys in the Hood, Baby Boy, and other shows like it. It didn't interest me, but to be fair most movies and shows don't interest me. My thought is that there should be more care in choosing roles and advocating for not being typecasted into particular roles. I know this is probably harder to do in Hollywood but many of the films with black female leads are not going to appeal to large parts of the population, especially if the watcher can't relate or understand specific lifestyle references. -An aside, of course I'm not speaking on fantastical story lines.
Spot on
I noticed that in the UK black actors and actresses get really meaty and diverse roles. I also agree that black actors and actress should open up their own production companies. That being said, I still think they need to fight for higher wages because we aren't telling white actors and actresses to do that to get higher wages. And let's be honest, Viola Davis can out act and has more accolades than many of the highest paid white actress (including the highest paid).
In the entertainment industry, your talent doesn't matter, your skill doesn't matter, your resume doesn't matter. The *ONLY* thing that matters is how much money you can generate. Mo'Nique's audience is limited to a subset of black women, and so is Taraji P Henson. So they don't generate the revenue to ask for high payouts. They do not have mass appeal.
As far as the Angela Bassett and Jennifer Aniston comparison is concerned, Angela Bassett's television series 9-1-1, has an average of 9.62 million viewers per episode. The television series Frends, had an average of 20+ million.
We have to *STOP* having these emotional arguments and start using logic.
Hi there. These are all great points. You are absolutely correct, so no argument here. I disagree that I was making an "emotional" argument, though. It was just baffling to me that a woman like Angela could still be so far behind salary-wise than Jennifer. She literally is making peanuts in 2023 compared to what Jennifer made in the 90s. But, your point is valid...Jen was on an extremely popular and wildly successful show. Thanks for watching and weighing in!
Also, in the 90s, the television series "The Sopranos" where the late James Gandolfino fought for the cast to get paid $ 1 million per episode.
Yes!!! You have to stick together. The Sopranos was hella popular, too. They could make demands.
Taraji and Monique is the only 2 speaking up?!! All 6 of those actors on Friends were making $1 mil an episode in the 90s!! What are we doing!!
If I was a black actress being unfairly paid, this is what I would do: if a producer offered me a job in their next project and they tried to low ball my salary, I would either humbly decline the offer or I would do the project but I would use the movie as free publicity and advertisement for my other endeavors. So I may not have gotten a huge salary for doing that particular project but in doing that project, it helped me obtain MORE REVENUE for my other streams of income. So if I only got $200,000 for a movie, that movie is going to be shown world wide. So that's the time to either put out an album. A clothing line. Start a makeup line. Perfume. Or reach out to companies that sell my favorite product and ask them, hey. I'm going to do a movie soon and I would like u to sponsor me and I'll endorse your product. Etc. So I would actually end up making way more money than what I got doing that project. 👍👏
So buying a 6 million dollar mansion was a bad idea
It's not about colors. It's not about skills. It's about bankability. You need to be a bankable, globally-appealing, enigmatic actor to be naming your price. Unfortunately, you won't be able to work on that because it's God-given. Wonder how the world's geniuses who are supposed to know how the world works are not presidents? It's because they don't have the mass appeal most presidents have. I think the earlier the black community accepts it, the better for them. Just like Asians. Just who among Asian actors can just dictate their price? I think only Jackie Chan and no one else because he's the only one with a global appeal and producers will surely make money from them.
This is not just about pay inequality. It’s about those same people crying keep voting for administrations that’s for big government. She complaining about Uncle Sam taking 50% but was the ambassador for the administration that’s against her tax bracket making money and taxing the shit out of them
My God in heaven! I am so blessed to have found your channel!! You are truly marvelous! Your transparency and gift of insight is almost blinding. it's that clear, that bright! 🎉
WOW!!!! You have truly blessed me with your kind words. Thank you soooooo much. God bless you!!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️❤️
@@ThisBahamianGyal my psyche is tuned on, my mind, turned on, and my ears, tuned in! God is with us! He is omniscient and knows exactly when to bring his people together ❤️ May He continue his blessings upon you and your loved ones. Excellent reporting 👏 👍
People need to put some respect on this woman’s name. Taraji has been out for a very long time. I remember her in the movie baby boy that wasn’t even supposed to be this great movie and she outshined everyone in there. She is an amazing actress and has been showing it for decades and the fact that we are sitting here having this conversation and this poor woman is crying about how she doesn’t feel valued and some people are saying that she’s just a rich spoiled millionaire who’s crying about $1 million check that’s not the point.And it’s sad that she is made to feel this way.
i didnt realize her request was so reasonable; its a great shame she has to " push " for the floor or her value; i couldnt imagine not offering her 750 k a picture
She's been acting for 20 plus years she should be set. Sounds like she mis managed her money. She's crying about taxes that everyone has to pay. She should know the game by now she didn't have a plan. She can also get a Husband
@@lashonnmurray2762 no theyre horribly underpaid; i package these people; talent at their level from the african american talent people; this is my day job; i am doing this right now literally; i thought she was screaming for 2 - 4 million the very up end of her worth which is in the 1 - 4 million range; that she has to fight to get 200 thousand is obscene; it really is; a white male star would be getting 4 - 6 million with similar credentials; im not speculating i do this; and most of the time i dont agree with the actors; i find them to be a bunch of lying self indulgent narcissists; as a union director; i have to deal with them; no one has more contempt at times for actors than i do; but this is obscene; that she has to jump through hoops for 500k which should be the floor or her value
Give that poor women your check girl! You should start a go fund me for her so she can buy another 6 million dollar home. 😂😂😂
While it's true, and sucks, that black actresses spend just as much as other actresses but get paid less per movie the fact is that their movies make less in profit. Why? She said it herself, "I'm tired of hearing that we don't translate overseas." I'd be tired of hearing that crap too, but it's true. My white husband and I buy, rent, (Amazon Prime and Vudo) and go see just as much "black" movies as "white" movies but we're American. We can relate to black actors. We understand where black directors and writers are coming from. Our hearts are rooting for the black heroes because we're American and practically the same. In other countries where they watch American movies, it's not the same. They're not interested in movies with mostly African American actors. They don't relate to the theme. So they don't PAY to watch them. Which translates to less profit. Black movie producers are doing great, they're coming up bigtime and we shouldn't be pushing them down because they're not paying their actors the same. They're working with what they've got AND they're innovating rapidly.
The question I would ask Is how much money, eyeballs, ratings is the black actresses bringing in on their shows or movies. You may have been in the game for a long time and is popular but is the quality of work bringing in high dollars so they could get that 1,2,or 3 million. Jen Aniston brought in the views for Friends and was paid well. It can't always be about race, maybe better quality and value.
That is a fair point. Tha ks for watching!
Apparently Taraji doesn’t bring seats to the theater and that’s why the Color Purple flopped. You can’t expect millions of dollars when people are not watching your shows or movies. You can win all the awards, but it’s all about how much money you are making them and if it’s worth it to pay you that amount. Monique’s Netflix special bombed also.🤷♂️
Monique told the truth! People keep talking abou her delivery, but I really need us to get out of respectability politics because all it does is confine us to a position where people can easily abuse you. The reason why people had an issue with Monique is because she belongs to a marginalized group that animosity was fueled by fatphobia, stereotypes, respectability politics, and being the palatable 🥷🏾. Black people do know that streotypes attribute negative connotations to black people based off of our skin color it has nothing to do with our behavior. If you are a black woman you is automatically seen as aggressive, angry black woman, not a team player, and problematic. I am proud of Monique for standing up for herself and upcoming black women in the industry when you are facing oppression you dont have the time to be nice thats our problem now we want to use morality and niceness against a system that has no morals and will destroy you in a heart beat. Oprah, Lee Daniels, and Tyler Perry assassinated that womans character, lied on her, tried to make her look crazy so I would be cussing them out too.
I saw Monique talking about that at the time, she was never rude, or used profanity. She was assertive, yes but she was never disrespectful in any of the interviews. I think the media did a good job in painting her as problematic.
I'm not talking about her calm interviews. I am referring to when she went on stage and told three people to suck her d*ck amongst other choice words.
Dear Sister, Your words, as usual, are on point. TRUTH HERE.
Thanks for watching!!! 🥰
@@ThisBahamianGyal My pleasure Highness.