Porch Canopy Build Final - Installation on the house
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- I'm building a canopy over the front door of a house supported on curved braced gallows brackets, the roof will be double roman tiles on 3x2 timber rafters, from below the the rafters will be seen but matchboarding will obscure the tiles & battening
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Great video 👌🏻 good to see someone taking pride in their work.
Thankyou very much, I'm glad you liked it & I'm glad you appreciate that i try to do a good job 👍😊
😀 thanks very much, about to make one myself. All three videos were very helpful and a pleasure to watch.
Thanks & you're welcome, glad it was helpful & best of luck with your build 👍👍
Top notch craftsmanship. Just gorgeous!
Thankyou, glad you like it 👍
Gid, You made my day, the wife has argued with me for years that there is no such word as cockled, you have proven me correct, well done mate. Nice job on the porch as well.
Thanks 👍 I just Googled cockled, - Cockled - Urban Dictionarywww.urbandictionary.com › define › term=Cockled
The moment when someone gets distracted by a penis and stops what he or she is doing. 😂🤣🤣 I should have Googled cockled over 👍😂
@@Gidjoiner Oh no! 🤣🤣🤣Thats not what I understood it to mean. Cockled over as in twisting your ankle or something not seating flat.
Yeah that's what i know it as, I didn't know that other version until Googling it 😂😂
Nice to see old fashioned real maths, great video
Thankyou 👍 Glad you appreciate that, 👴😁
Just watched your video Gid, a Master tradesman its help me a lot the way you have talked us through was excellent thank you for sharing your master skills😊
Your a cracking tradesman mate. Wish they where all like you.
😀 Thanks James 👍 I guess you can't have the good without the bad
Lovely job for fellow joiner. Didn't know you could get wide chasing blade learn something new every day.👍
Thanks 👍 Yep, makes it a bit simpler n they last quite a long time, 👍
Great to see real craftsmen at work. Thankyou
Thankyou Andrew I'm glad you appreciate that 😊👍
Thanks for uploading Gid! The best i've seen on this subject.
I may even try this summer
👍 Thanks 👍 Hope it works out ok 😉
Good stuff Gid. This work was part of my line when I was at it. Code 4 lead goes to about 4ft , then another piece with 6" overlap.This is for the expansion. The long lead Apron looks better but may crack ( could take 30 years) I always used lead bats for wedging the lead in with my hardwood bolster, but I know they are selling those spring clips now. My method was to put a half inch fold in the lead at forward edge and dress it back down towards you. Your claw hammer is actually good for folding it, or dress off over scaffold batten. This gives your "drip return" that stops capilliary rain driving up past lead and into your cut wall groove. If job was on an exposed S/W elevation, I put Butyl sealant well back into the groove, then offer the lead in there. Bat it up with folded lead wedges and dress to tiles. That sealant never dries out so makes it storm proof. Point up remainder of gap with mortar. I liked your nifty thick Diamond blade. Back in my day we put 2 carborundum blades on the 9" grinder to give the extra groove width.
The bit at the eave for the felt is called a tilting fillet. Old way was a 6"x2" cut diagonal corner to corner to give that profile. Sometimes I did the cheeks of the porch in sheet lead, other times I wire lathed over the plywood and roughcast the same as the house. The knees I made similar to yours. If the roof was going to be heavy, ie Rosemary tile or heavy slate, I made triangular mono truss up and fixed them in with screwed rod and chemical grout at 600 mm centres. Then I just put the 2 knees in for show. Yip........you could have done with a hand on that, and even a wee scaffold lol. Looks good anyway ..........and watertight.
Alex Bowie !
I really wanna tackle this but I'm having second thoughts lol. I think I'll watch this video over and over and over again first 😉
😁 Yeah i don't think it's for the faint hearted but if you don't have a go... best of luck, if i can help i'll try 😉
Excellent Job, nice to see some quality workmanship and thought go into a project.
Thanks, That's nice to read 👍😉
Yyyyyyyyyyy
Nice job!! I have a feeling this is not the first construction you've made 🙂
Thankyou, sorry just seen this msg, YT notifications are a bit rubbish sometimes, no it's not the first, I've been a joiner for nearly 40yrs now 👍 Thanks again, glad you liked the job 😊👍
Really enjoyed watching this, I admire the care and detail you put into it.
Thanks Daniel, much appreciated 👍
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Thank you so much. must of watched this so many times notes taken now to tackle the job.
👍 best of luck, just remember there's a lot of weight there, i considered the condition of the wall first, the holes i put in for the brackets weren't right under the window, they're to the side with the full weight of the 1st floor bricks right up to the roof on top 👍😊
Thumbs up just for the long division 👍🏻
😁😁 Thanks 👍
Old school tradesman, top job 👍
Thanks Mick, yep feeling a little old at the mo 👴🤣👍
Good job, clearly explained. Thank you.
👍👍You're welcome Thanks 👍
Great video. I've learned alot from your video. I'm going to try refurbishing my porch in the spring. Thanks for the video
Thanks & you're welcome 👍 , I'm glad you've learnt, it was useful & best of luck with the refurbishment
I enjoyed this video alot. Nice job 👍🏻
nice job
Thanks Michael 👍
Mate!!! You’re such a talented joiner! I’ve only just started my career as a carpenter/bench joiner. If I get a fraction as good as you I’ll be happy. You deserve loads more subs 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks Chris, Kind words 👍😊
I try to do a good job that I'm happy with, enough to take photos of & leave knowing i did my best, sometimes time/price affects how much effort can go into something but experience gained from others throughout my 34yr career gives me little tricks n tips of doing things to an acceptable degree within the given time scale, Ya never stop learning n improving but a lot of it is based on rules that have been around for 100s of yrs,
Yep more subs would be good, maybe in time 😉
Gid joiner you’ll get the subs for sure. Just takes time so I’ve heard, I’m bing watching all your videos now so hopefully that will help with the TH-cam algorithm lol
Nice job 👍
Thanks Chris 👍😊
Nice work. In my country (Denmark) lead was banned about 25 years ago. Strange to see this used knowing just how poisonous it is. However it is easy to work with. Glad your phone survived the tumble.
lovely job, just watched all 3 videos, so great to watch a proper job being done, sadly guys like you are a dying breed, mates have bought new build houses and they just throw them up these days with gaps and bits missing, thanks for making this series of videos. :-)
Thanks 👍 Yeah that's what i try to do, to make things as they used to be or as near as, hopefully will last a while, Yeah new builds are shite
Love it mate don't matter how old vids are hope see more soon and recovering well 👍
Thanks 👍 getting there slowly 😊 Keep well yourself.
Spot on gid ! Love the van
Thank Andy 😊👍
Very nice indeed ! Thank you.
Thank you too & you're welcome 👍
Excellent stuff
Thankyou, glad you liked it 👍
Amazing job! You try so hard. I love watching your videos, keep it up mate👍
Thanks Lewis 👍 I'm glad you like them, will do 👍👍
Great work, as always
Thanks 👍😊
Excellent work and approach to Joinery
I hope you manage to convey to your customers how much effort you put into doing everything right when giving them price
Thanks collcolin 👍
Price was agreed at the beginning, I've worked for these people before & all my work comes word of mouth, always has, & I'am never out of work because i try to do it right. I think it's presumed/assumed what you say 😏😂
Great video Gid thanks
No problem Thanks 👍
Brillant work pal, it's a real privilege to watch a master builder at his craft, I built a full length house canopy a few years ago, 16 Saturday's at 10hours per day, 160hours and just like you I was building it myself, you do feel a great sense of assignment, anyways keep up the brillant work and I hope your wee van passed its MOT, kind regards Louie from Northern Ireland
Thanks Louie👍, yrs of watching, learning & trying to improve by working for good companies with quality workmen, I'm just trying to share what I can 😉
Yep it does feel good to do the final bits n know you've done it to the best of your knowledge.
Van passed 😁
Nice job Gid 👍👍
Thanks Les 👍👍
Great stuff Gid!
Thanks yewgoigo 👍
Great job 👍
Thanks 👍
Nice neat job!
Thank you, glad you liked it 👍
good work, helped me no end
Thanks, Glad to hear it 👍👍
Top job 👍🏼
Thankyou 👍😊
I really loved the video and the comments really brilliant 🚀🚀🚀👍
👍👍 Thanks 😉
great vid mate, I'm a builder everything was done spot on and a nice talk through as well
Thanks,👍 That's good to hear, I mumble n waffle a bit but editing sorts that out 😀
Hi TehGoldfish, would you happen to know how much it would cost to employ a builder to do this?
Work of art sir
Thankyou 😊 👍
Another great video. Very informative. It would be good to hear how the van gets on. Good luck!
Thanks Harry, the van passed!! 👍😂 I've got a bit to do on it that's been needed doing for a while,
Excellent video .
Thanks 👍 glad you like it
Wow. Great job.
Thanks Craig, appreciated 👍😊
Top job mate
Nice work...
Thanks 👍
Very informative as usual Gid.... I love you deadpan style. Really cool to watch... Nice one.
Thanks Sharp, 👍 stick to the facts, that's me 😉
Another great Vid. Thank you. : )
Good glad you like them, Thanks 👍
Great attention to detail good luck with the mot👍
Thanks Dean,
Good day today, the van passed!! 👍
I've got stuff to do on it that's been needed doing for a while but I'm still on the road ,😊
Excellent bit of work. Shows the uneducated masses that there are skilled and diligent tradesmen still out there and demonstrates the amount of work that goes into a job of this size.
Thankyou Mick 😊👍 Yep, there are still a few around but not too many, i was lucky to get in just before a lot of firms closed n the old joiners retired, that's why I'm sharing. these braces can be bought already made but then there's the pitch to do & all the little things that have to be taken into account to install the whole thing.
Another great job Gid 👍👍👍 Excellent workmanship, especially whilst filming it and taking time to test how well your phone bounces 😂😂😂 Glad it survived the test and glad your van passed it's MOT 😎
Thanks Nick, 😊
I've wanted to buy a new camera for a while now, sort of glad i haven't yet tho, doubt it would have survived that drop 🙄😂
Yep van flew through, a couple of advisory notes but nothing i didn't know about, 😊
Brilliant !!!
Thanks Terry 👍😊
yet another very fine job i hope the van will pass the test for you
and i hope that customers will see the amount of time and effort that goes into doing a first class job as you have done here
Thanks James, Van passed !! 😁 a couple of bits to sort out but I'm still on the road. 👍
I'm never out of work because people know I'll do a good job as correct as poss, a lot better than some out there anyway 😉
I don't think they will ever realise what it does take to do something like this, watching the telly on a night but not concentrating because i drift off into my work,
It's always been satisfaction for me that I've done a good job i can feel proud enough to photos in the end.
People who have painted the work by themselves or who've got a shit painter in, most of the time don't get photos taken after because it looks crap, one reason i spray stuff 😂
i totally agree with you badly painted work can and will ruin even the finest job
and its brilliant your van has passed the test
i had to put my car throught the nct {national car test in ireland} and the only fault they could find was a small little cut in a dust cover over a ball joint that you could hardly see 😒 the ball joint it self was perfect 😒
a lot of the time the tests are a money making racket as we have to pay for the retest but i suppose it was not too bad in a 10 year old car its the joy of motoring🙂🙂
looking forward to your next project 👍👍👍👍
regards
james
nice tidy job enjoyed the video
Thanks 👍 glad you enjoyed it
Nice job
Thanks Andy 👍
Nice and informative video. You need Go Pro camera which can easily sit on your hat. I am not a builder but enjoyed watching the extra care you have put in this job. Very hard to find builder like you this days.
👍 Some people have mentioned the head go pros, camera gimbals etc.. prob give a better shot but to be honest I video my work, i don't make videos if that makes sense, filming is secondary to my work, just setting up the tripod is a time consuming sometimes pain in the arse, my phone is in my pocket, if i had to film with a vid camera i wouldn't be filming it, sorry,
Thanks tho n yeah i get work because people say it's hard to find someone, esp someone with experience,
Glad you enjoy them, Thanks 👍
Impressive and Excellent workmanship! Well done!😉
Thankyou very much shaun 👍
@@Gidjoiner you deserve the credit pal
👍😁 thanks
Just about to do a pitch roof myself as a DIY’er. Watched this a few times to get the technique for the birds mouth and pitch. Really helpful vids. Nice one 👍
Thanks Adam 👍 sorry haven't been on line recently so if you haven't already built your roof there's one thing i can't remember if i mentioned in the vid, that is about the seat of the birdsmouth cut, i said 1/3 of the rafter but the seat cut of the birdsmouth shouldn't be wider than the wall plate, In Figure 2-15 of this link it shows the cut, If the cut is wider than the width of the wall plate the underside of the rafter isn't supported properly, If you go 1/3 & the cut is wider than the wall plate then change to 1/4 width of the rafter or even 1/5 or 1/6 until the seat cut is no wider than the wall plate. If you already know this than sorry but i had to mention it n i hope all goes or has gone well 👍👍 www.waybuilder.net/free-ed/Resources/Trades/carpentry/Building01/default.asp?iNum=0903
cheers that’s really useful! Hopefully doing the roof this weekend coming 🤞. Going to re-watch a few videos before and definitely read this 👍👍
Ok I managed to get the roof done. It wasn’t as easy as it looks but your method was good to follow. My bird’s mouth wasn’t perfect but a bit of tweeking and I got there. I’m no tradesman so that just shows the method works 👍
@@adamgriffiths4178 👍 Good 👍, yeah i like roofing because a bit of thought needs to go into it 👍 maths & geometry are fine on paper but on site practical techniques get the job done too, 😉
Nice explained
Thankyou, glad you liked it 👍
Feeling dizzy watching that vid. Great to watch though very informative.
Thanks 👍
Once again Thankyou
👍 You're welcome, Thanks 👍
thanks for this
Very impressive workmanship fella ! I've wanted to build one of these for a while and this has given me the confidence to tackle it. I wouldn't know how to price it though. Thanks for your demo.
Thanks 👍 I draw it then simply add up the materials, the hardest part is working out how long it would take to build it, so i break it down into parts & try to work out what i can get done in a day, In the end the price is an agreement with the client, at the end I stick to that orig quote, it's up to me to get it done within that time-ish, I don't add on more if it takes longer so like i say that's the hardest part.
@@Gidjoiner Hey up ta for that Gid...very helpful that. It's the most comprehensive bit of advice I've ever had been since I set up on my own. I like your style man..once uve given the price that's it !
It is just a very varied project this canopy...interesting. Thanks again fella 👍
Enjoyed this alot, your videos are far better than most peoples because they are "real life" rather than everything being in a perfect workshop like alot of youtube videos, id be interested in hearing about the van!
Thanks Sam, yeah i think that's what I'm aiming for, realism, I don't know everything n don't always do it the same as others would but i try to explain my actions & share what i know,
Van passed !! 😁 a couple of bits to sort out but I'm still on the road. 👍
Gid joiner good to hear! Im learing alot from your videos, where are you from?
Leeds West Yorkshire 😶
Good, Glad your learning 👍
Looks the business big man. another happy customer
Thank Mr boots 😊
Yep, They paid me in full to help cover potential Mot costs even tho i haven't finished the gutter 👍
@@Gidjoiner I'm quite sure they know you're good enough to come back and finish it by the standard of the work that you have already left. My own car / van is in the garage as well getting a new clutch been in since last Wednesday and still no sign of it being fixed using the wife's car at the minute and it's doing my head in good luck with the MOT
Thanks, Yeah I'll be back, I've to repair the bottom of the rotten door frame, crappy job that'll be 😒
The van passed!! 👍 £40 for the certificate .
I've got stuff to do on it that's been needed doing for a while but I'm still on the road, I feel ya pain not having a vehicle ,😊 I haven't got access to another so it's pedestrian for me if I'm off the road,
That's a long time for a clutch, different garage next time?
best ive seen yet
Thanks 👍
Excellent job Gid, very nice work work, :]
Thanks glen 👍😊
Tidy job mate
Thanks Fred 👍
Great work mate, loved it & a quality finish. Though UPVC facia etc would last longer than wood👍
Thanks, 👍 A plastic fascia would last longer than you n I but it wasn't for this job.
Gid Joiner And the UPVC facia would look awful. As long as it’s maintained it’ll last forever.
Thankyou
Thanks 👍
Another good one Gid, check out felt support trays on screwfix, item: 36622 will save you some hassle on the next one 👍
Thanks 👍 I think you mentioned something about sucking eggs in one of your previous comments n forgetting I've been a joiner since i was 16, 35yrs ago, those ones at screwfix are expensive, Burtons Roofing supplies do one cheaper but they're the other side of town for me, Wickes do one similar price to Burtons & is just around the corner from most of my work, also Selco has just opened a shop next door to screwfix, I chose to use scraps of ply for this job,
www.wickes.co.uk/Premium-Felt-Support-Tray-1-5m/p/169557
www.selcobw.com/felt-support-tray-black-1-5m
Nice job m8, the only thing that I would have done differently would have been to use lead mate sealant rather than sand and cement, it tends to flex and expand and contract with the lead better than cement and I know that your all about using the best products. Nice one gid
Exactly! Cement mortar point for virtually all aspects of roofing works have been removed from the BS.
Thanks 👍, When undercutting bricks, removing the cement to get the lead in I always feel i should fill it with something solid, I'm just a bit old school i guess but I'll keep the sealant option in mind, the job I'm on will get that,
@@Gidjoiner each to their own we all have the different little things and ways we go about things. I just trialled the lead mate originally and found it to be just as solid as cement but it will also flex when the lead expands and contracts so it avoids the cracking you inevitable get with cement. There's nothing at all wrong with pointing them in though -- for anyone else who bar read this.
@@garethheathcote4988 Thanks, yep the flex & better adhesion is what I'm after for this job I'm on,
It's a bastard to make look neat tho.
Nice job mate. A lead dresser would definitely have been easier. You'll probably find it this week now you don't need it. lol
Thanks Steve, Yeah it'll just dawn on one day where it is or in many many days in the future I'll find it n remember this time 🙄😃
nicely done and very well explained TY! 9:12 re sum = 2175 not 2185.
Thanks 👍 The calculation is 2360 - 175 = 2185, It is correct in the video
As a a roofer i wouldent have pointed the tiles,you can buy dry verge units and there alot better than coming back to re point it every year
Thanks, i know these people wanted no plastic, as traditional as poss, they wanted the wood fascia even if that means some maintenance but thanks again i'l keep those in mind & although the house roof is pointed i'm sure they prob wouldn't have noticed if i'd used them, 👍👍
You should have made a double hipped canopy for this house, it would have given it a first-class look. Next time..!
All options of design & materials are discussed but in the end it's the clients choice n I build as requested
I love that you take great care in the way you do what you do. Well done. Which part of the country are you in? I could have some jobs for you if you are interested.
Hi n thankyou, I'm glad you notice, I've a limited time to do things as well as i can but i do try to 👍👍 I'm in Leeds, thanks for the offer but i rarely have to travel further than North Leeds, Sorry,
Really liked it and got me inspired and i am going to build one of these for my door(easter holidays project ha ha )
just need bit of info if you could help
what size timber you used for
gallow brackets ?
wall plate and rafters ?
and what size gallow brackets you used ?
and what was the distance of wall plate from top of gallow brackets ?
Regards
Hi, not an easy one t answer that, every job is different, i would poss change everything for another job, The main timbers for the brackets were 4x3, the wall plate i think was a 6x2 & the rafters were 3x2, I can't remember the size of the main beam that went across on the front, Sorry for being vague, 👍
How would i calculate how far from the house I’m able to extend the overhang while still having it be able to support itself free floating, (without using supports to the ground) and how would i determine the proper pitch required for the maximum length and/or does it have to do with weight. Don’t want it to come crashing down on grannie ya know.....or do i? LOL. Just joking.
I want to get the most coverage as the basement Walk out entry faced direct west which is where the storms and driven rain come from so i want as long of one as possible yet would Ike to eliminate support posts to the ground. Thanks
Fine class job, canopys look a bit better with the 10x6 tiles but the price goes through the roof about 60 for a m2 plus triple lathe and time.
Hi, Thanks Mark 👍
yeah I'd have preferred plain tiles but this was their choice to match the roof on the house.
@@Gidjoiner 👍👍
These are what i call plain tiles that i put on this job, is that the 10x6 you refer to ?
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@@Gidjoiner Rosemary tiles we call them in leicester 10x6 in inches i'm old ha ha.
🤣 just had a look at Milfords site, Rosemary's what they call them too, I'm old too 🤪
Fantastic job! I’m in the process of building one at the moment. What material did you use for the white facia board?
Thankyou, much appreciated, 👍 everything is Pine or Ply, the white faced board, (Fascia) is pine, it's over 8ft long so a strip of ply would've had to be joined at some point but also ply can start to delaminate over time, 👍
Great video what size timber did you use
Thanks Mr brookes, do you want me to list everything ? 😏
Would liked to have seen it when painted and the new gutter fitted.
At the end of the vid a window with a link to Door Frame Repair should appear, the finished job is at the start of that th-cam.com/video/2c93kqQ6s-k/w-d-xo.html
Will the underneath be finished? I sure would like to see it all finished.
The T&G boarding i put on the rafters under the breathable membrane was put on upside down because that will be seen from underneath, the clients chose that open design, it all got painted, watch this vid, they'd painted some of it th-cam.com/video/2c93kqQ6s-k/w-d-xo.html
Great work.
Forgive me if this was explained, but how many days did this take, and how much would you charge for this complete job (or similar), including materials? Trying to get an expectation of cost if I was to employ a joiner to do something similar.
Hi, Thanks 👍 That's not an easy one to explain, I charge materials + my labour, Building suppliers & tradesmen will charge a different price depending on which part of the country & I'm sorry but i don't share my labour prices online The materials came to about £400 + I quoted 5 days of my time 👍 it prob took me longer but at the end of the job i charge what i quoted in the beginning 😏
@@Gidjoiner Thanks, That's a fair answer and gives me some kind of idea of what we'd be looking at!
Now... has your video given me enough confidence to give it a go myself and have an excuse to buy lots of new tools... or spend the money to get someone in to do it for me...?
Thank you for the video. May I ask where you are based and how much do you charge for something like this? Thanks
Thanks you're welcome 👍 sorry i don't share those details, all my work comes word of mouth through recommendations, the price for a job like this is Materials + labour, the materials will vary from city to city n country, & i don't share my labour charges,
Just thinking if lead flashing be OK for my santoft tailes they have this high wavy profile 🤷🏻♂️
Hi, I don't know to be honest, I'm a joiner but I don't see why not, prob best asking a roofer tho 👍
Hi, hope you’re well.
Where are you based? Are you able to do a job in Manchester?
Hi gid, I’ve got a porch to build similar to this but a lot smaller, when it comes to the timber fascia/match board etc, what measures should I take to weather proof the materials? Thanks
Hi, most of the wood should be ok painted,I put clear treatment on the most prone of the pieces, As long as wood can dry out it's ok if it gets a bit wet but design should be made so that there's no flat surfaces, water runs off instead & not allowed to sit/stay n soak in, on the bottom of the braces, in the little V where they meet the uprights on the wall i put some filler so water runs out, it doesn't sit in the V, that got painted.
Gid joiner could you recommend a clear treatment to use? Does this just go on before a primer?
Also if I just prime the timber with standard white primer before fitting it should be ok to go?
This is the treatment i have, i think, I don't have enough info about it to 'recommend' as i guess time will tell if it's any good but i go for the one in the builders merchants, www.google.co.uk/shopping/product/3864637042676123577?lsf=seller:87981,store:14432743186361770829,s:h&prds=oid:11269397598190289340&q=timberland+wood+treatment&hl=en&ei=PNxEXIGeO7Oo1fAP2rOEIA&lsft=gclid:CjwKCAiA1ZDiBRAXEiwAIWyNC6jNJjKxXEkwTICcD2RkZ0D-zLMC49tC_jfo4nm_Fc7AzJl2FfTRvxoCfL4QAvD_BwE
I can't say exactly without going out into the shed, If it's something different I'll let you know,
Primer is ok for an overnight sealing coat but not for long term exposure to the elements, yes the treatment goes on first onto the bare wood,
Lovely job mate, lovely to watch another chippy working and enjoying himself. Would you mind advising how much you roughly charged for this job? Many thanks
Thanks Robert, 👍👍 Sorry i don't want to share the exact figures but i do a CAD drawing & quote my time + materials, i give a spreadsheet list of materials with my labour at the bottom, the materials price i don't inflate, they cost what i pay pretty much n i try to work out how long it'll take me to do it n add that to the bottom giving a total price, my clients like the honesty of that & I stick to that final price providing the client doesn't change anything from the agreed drawing, I'm crap at working out how long a job will take but don't charge more if it does take longer, so it gets done to an acceptable standard asap n the client knows exactly how much they'll be paying in the end n not fretting when I'm late or they see me sat on my arse drinking tea 😉😁 I don't do a lot of that tho cos i do have to crack on n get it done & I don't remember how long this took, it takes as long as it takes but i don't rush a job n bodge it just to get it done on time, all my work comes word of mouth so each job/client is my advertising, Prices will vary from joiner to joiner n region to region, i quoted 5 days + materials. I normally make enough 💷💰😏 just 😂, it's not about the money for me often, i like to build n as long as i pay the bills 😂
@@Gidjoiner Thanks for taking your time to reply to me, it's really helpful. I've been a carpenter since leaving school, I've just turned 26 and now feel I have the confidence to start going out on my own finding my own jobs. I've subscribed to your channel and look forward to further videos. Cheers
Thanks Robert best of luck, I've been a joiner 36yrs n started doing my own jobs 20yrs ago, still struggle to get prices right tho, it's easy to build in your head but time ticks away when building, & on site there's other people, working for yourself you have to do everything. All i can recommend is set your standards high, then when you fall short of that at least it'll be good, or as i end up saying 'that'll do' 😏 I was lucky to have a decent social life in the 90's, met a lot of people who are now family people, those all knew 10 people who know 10 others n so on, I've never advertised n I'm never out of work because i take pride in my work & do a decent job at a fair, open n honest price, 😉 Don't be greedy but also don't leave yourself short, it's not easy finding a middle ground 👍
Nice job, how much do you reckon the total cost will be, ballpark figure,
Thanks James.👍
For the porch/canopy?
@@Gidjoiner
Yes, just wondering?
Plus how long did it take?
Not easy to put a price on labour, it took longer than a younger man would 😃 & filming adds time, I built it over the last couple of weeks, not 8hr days, plenty of Tea 😎 what i charged & how long it took doesn't relate.
Materials came to about £350, inc guttering bits, bought n waiting for painting to be done, some stuff i had, some like the 9x3 i had to buy more than needed, the Lead alone cost nearly £70.
How much is cost to put canopy on front door?
How does that trick work taping the 2x1 to the level pal, could you try explain. Second time watching this, quality
Hi, i think i used 3x2 in this, the 2" is 2/3's of the thickness of the rafter to the birdsmouth, It's a little hard to explain in writing. If you haven't learnt roofing geometry try this link or google 'roofing birds mouth drawing' www.pinterest.com/pin/523754631640318424/
Top man cheers!
The 2x1 taped to the level is to get the angle for the plumb cut at the top of the rafter, I do mention it in the vid but i understand it isn't easy or obvious if you're not used to this, I think watched a few times n maybe more understanding of roofing then come back to this n it'll be an "ah" moment 👍 sorry can't explain more 😊
Hi it's me again can you tell me what size through bolts you used to fix the gallows bracket to the wall thanks
Hi, it was these,
www.screwfix.com/p/easyfix-sleeve-anchor-12-x-130mm-m12-10-pack/19649?_requestid=331017
I used these 130mm ones all round for everything because that is what my tools were set up for & i wan't 'to be sure'.
I thought the 100mm ones would be a bit short but they are fine for standard 44mm/2" timber
www.screwfix.com/p/easyfix-sleeve-anchor-10-x-100mm-m8-10-pack/19292
What screws are those? The anchors?
Hi mate trying to learn my self cut roofs and lean to /porches similar to this one im struggle to get my head around pitch and birds mouths plum cuts ect why Did you put the timber underneath your level when working out pitch?
Hi, it's not easy to explain in writing but the birdsmouth cut is roughly 1/3, of the width, (not always tho, you don't want the cut so big that the inner part of the seat cut is hanging off the wall plate not supported) anyway that piece of 2x1 is roughly 2/3 of the 3" rafter, up on the wall plate I'd taped it to the level at the bottom to get the true angle with the level sitting on the top wall plate at the top, imagine if i removed that piece of wood, didn't change the angle of the level but moved the level down vertically, basically the timber represents the remaining wood above where the birds mouth gets cut, I've put a picture on Facebook for you 👍 facebook.com/photo/?fbid=6287679351318378&set=a.153123471440694
Ps if you look at this time in the vid 'th-cam.com/video/-qkEsReNp7Q/w-d-xo.html' I use the 2x1 to make the line to cut to,
@@Gidjoiner yes mate that makes sence especially with the photo you've added thanks for the reply mate enjoyed watching your vids👍🏻
@@Gidjoiner can i use that method on any roof I'm putting rafters on? Does the size of the wood change you tape to your level or is it always 2x1?
Yeah you can pretty much use it on most roofs, I've put quite a few on that's what I use, it's only for determining the angle, you might already have the angle if you're working to a specific tile that has to go on a roof with a certain pitch. or like this one i was sort of trying to match the main roof, the tile specs were also taken into account. but if you're going to do roofing more often you might be better learning rafter rules n calculations .... blah blah 🤣 Google - size of birdsmouth cut, 1/3 will come up often but like i say you don't want the seat cut any bigger than the width of the top of the wall plate it's sitting on. I'm a general joiner & don't want to give you false info, - On a bigger roof use a string line instead of the level when trying to get the angle.
What is that thing that makes the dot where to drill?
I think you're referring to these? very handy gadget 😉
www.screwfix.com/p/marxman-green-chalk-non-permanent-marker/1977k#_=p
Cracking video very informative and great to see your skills applied , one thing you can't beat is experience, I have wanted to attempt this for a while and I now realise how important each step is, I will definitely be referring to this video once I start 😀