Federal PUNCH .22lr in Ballistic Gel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Shooting this self defense .22 long rifle ammo into ballistic gel alongside Winchester Silvertip.
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It’s always a pleasure to hear someone refer to ‘cartridge’, ‘case’, and ‘bullet’ in the correct context.
For that, and your demonstrations, I thank you Mr. Buffalo sir. ✊👍❤️🇺🇸
That's an amazing amount of penetration for a 22LR. Thanks again Buffalo for all that you do for the Firearms Community. God bless.
Yes, but it's actually overpenetrating. A bigger wound channel with about 12 inches would be best. 16+ inches is on the high side.
@@nickmotsarsky4382 keep in mind this is only 10% gel
@@nickmotsarsky4382 According to the FBI more than 18 is overpenetration. I think this is perfect and I doubt if it exited, there would be much energy left.
@@jeekyboi9564 Isn't FBI gel 10% ?
From a guy who follow all the major guns channels on TH-cam, you sir just became one of my favorite. Love the way you explaine everything really well in a calm and informative way. And i love the accent too ! 😄 cheers from Belgium (sorry for my english)
I agree, and i like his accent too!
Paul Harrell just did a video on this stuff too, I’m glad to see it in gel though.
Glad you had a vacation! I had a 7 day vacation a couple weeks ago as well, have another coming up- they’re necessary.
I was just about to comment about Paul Harrell putting out a video yesterday on this stuff. Kind of cool seeing the performance in both a meat target and gel block and with different firearms.
@@thomaswashburn3513 I think 1Shot TV did videos in a bunch of calibers for Federal Punch
Some others mentioned the Paul Harrel video. I honestly didn't know about it. He does a good job of getting his points across. I tend to talk in circles most of the time....lol I actually recorded this video Sunday and then after I got it edited I posted it over on Patreon to give those guys the early viewing of it. The public release just happened to coincide with Paul's.
@@buffalosoutdoors you don’t talk in circles, you’re laid back and methodic. I always enjoy your videos Buffalo.
@@jaysontretner3145 No bargains here.
If I were to carry a .22 lr for self defense, that Punch .22 is what I would carry. That is some darm good penetration for a .22 revolver. Thanks!
Outstanding content Sir! Love the methodical approach. Your vids are top shelf. Is it just me, or does anyone else find it calming to watch lead projectiles rip through gel?
It's not just you...
Yes, pretty much everyone likes seeing bullets do damage to shit, so your good.
Yes it is fun to watch bullets penetrating the gel, 12 gauge slugs are the best.
I like it too!😝😍
Calm down. You can blow him later
Love these clear gel block tests. Can never get enough of them.
Glad you got a vacation. Hope you rested up and got recharged. Stay safe out there and take it easy man. Thanks again for the videos. 😎👍
Thanks man it was a much needed break. I am rested and ready!
This ammo is the real deal in handguns that’s for sure, stuff feels like shooting a mini 22 magnum
Glad you and the family had a great vacation, Now, I'm very old school, also was in Military Security for 16 yrs and police officer for 11 yrs using .38 special, then .357 mag, then then the 9mm at which time I left law enforcement because of my personal use of 9mm in Vietnam. Back then the 9mm would not stop a 4 ft nothing person hopped up on drugs, much less a 6 ft persons without hitting 'em with between 3 to 5 rounds. Not trying to give you a hard time cause I really enjoy what you do. As a person who hunts, large game, bird hunts, was in the military security and law enforcement, I have formed an opinion, base on my personal experience. I DO NOT want to discredit you or start arguments with your viewers. To me the difference I see in the CCI, Federal and Winchester, is if you want pure pentation or stopping powder/bullet staying in the body cavity. Even the FBI data relates back to the .38 Special, which is about the same as the subsonic 9mm that is used in law enforcement. So to your users, my question is if use in self defense would you rather have complete pentation going through the body cavity or a round that stays within body cavity doing it's damage that relates in the end to instant death or bleeding to death internally. At the law enforcement school I attended, we studied gun shot wounds, and there the Corners, Trauma Surgeons, stated that outside of the instance damage of large calibers, a .224 cal round, like the .22 LR, 1/000 larger than the AR15/M16 .223/5.56mm, creates the most damage to the human body. Because the bullet will go in one place and end up in another, unless it hits bone mass. So thank you for showing the difference between the different manufactures of .22 LR rounds, leaving the choice up to the shooter. Keep up the great work and hope this post does not cause you problems. If it does please delete my post. After all, it's my opinion, and my experience. God bless and have a great day.
I guess a bit of both. I carry a 40 cal for the same reason(.40 cal wouldn't exist if the 9mm Silvertip did its job). I carry frangible 2000 fps rounds that will penetrate a 3a vest( first round in chamber)and bonded Winchester ranger rounds in mag. I want to cause damage to what I hit leave some fragments and let the next round(s) have uniform expansion and penatration.
Appreciate your comments. I usually carry 9mm with a 4 in barrel because I'm more accurate with 4 in or longer. Often in summer, with lighter clothing; carry a Ruger sr22, 4.5 in. Using CCI Velocitor ammo. Shoots reliably and flat out to 25 yds. My 22lr groups are usually tighter than the 9mm.
Would also recommend a Lucky Gunner video. They went to a Federal ammo factory. Federal ppl talked abt a 2200 fps velocity point where a rifle bullet begins to tear a much wider wound path than any slower pistol cartridge can. An interesting discussion. Abt 3 yrs ago. 🤔🤔
Why don’t you have over 1 million subscribers? Seriously, you are a gentleman and provide well produced content.
Buffalo, you are very good at what you do; and you explain everything very clearly. Keep up the good work 👏
Originally the 22 short had a 29 gr bullet and the LR a 40 gr, The long consisted of the long rifle case and the short 29 gr bullet. So basically we are back to shooting longs again.
The federal 22lr punch was designed to penatrate and that it does very well,better than any other 22lr load,it completely out performs the cci stinger,in my tests it always penatrates better than anything else and that's what your after in 22lr for self defense not expansion,try it on coconuts and gallon jugs of water,2 coconuts and 3 gallon jugs of water it usually stops in the third jug,and that is viscous for a 22lr load,I carry my kel tec p17 loaded with 17 federal punch in it,it's dead reliable and accurate I would not want to be on the receiving end of it,that's a one way ticket to the grave yard
Glad I found this earlier video you did on the 22LR Federal Punch. From what I have seen thus far, whether 22LR Federal Punch is fired from a S&W 43C or a 22LR rifle it is definitely a deep penetrating bullet and bad news for the "receiver down range".
That's a great camo look on the S&W Sport II.
This is probably the sixth video I've actively searched for to understand what all of the hullaballoo is all about and why this "Punch" was/is so popular when there exists other, better, and cheaper options on the market. CCI Stingers (JHP, 1640 fps) have always done the job well and are great to break in any new gun. Norma has a "Eco Speed 22" lead free ammo @ $3 a box rated at 1706 fps... flat nosed just like this.
Those and Winchester Super X (1300+ fps and available in jhp) come to mind when terms ".22LR" and "self defense" are mentioned. I'd need some _serious_ convincing to try this out just for kicks. What we saw here from the gel test was a lot of overpenetration which is the total opposite of what any caliber SD ammo is supposed to do.
I was pleasantly surprised to see how far away it looked like you were from the gel. Many TH-cam ballistics gel videos are essentially point blank. I think it’s more interesting when it’s farther away.
I do too!
After I tried this ammo out I bought it for both my .22wmr and .22lr pistols. This is a great cartridge.
These are great results to see. I bought this 22lr punch specifically for rifle use in my 10/22.
Breaking news there’s Buffalo on the beach, witnesses said it seemed to be domesticated and was well socialized.
😂🤣😂 nailed it.
Hah, you beat Paul Harrell releasing this video 😉
Great video. Thanks much!
God bless all here.
Federal punch and the cci velocitor seem to be the two standards in 22lr defensive ammo. I'm honestly leaning towards the punch a bit since higher velocity seems to make for more reliable expansion.
The only problem I see with using this round in a three inch revolver is the brutal recoil.
😂🤣😂
That's why I have nothing to do with them. "wrist breakers"
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LOL, for 1/2 a sec i thought you had the limpest wrists in the world.
❓ Huh?! 😜❓
You've got good aim for that being a 3" barrel and hitting the center of that.
In my opinion buffalo is a damn good shot
@@dontaylor9719 agreed!
Looks like a consistent performer. Might be a great defensive option to stock up on that will give adequate penetration in either a rifle or a handgun. I am tempted to ask to see it side by side with the CCI Stinger. I imagine it would be very close out of a pistol, but would probably expand too much and give shallow penetration out of a rifle.
I am glad that you have had time to spend with your family on vacation. Hope things are going well for you. Thank you for your videos, they are a joy for those of us who are not able to shoot as much, have fun God bless.
Really liked this video the gel really shows how much power it really has learned a lot as usual thanks!
Good video, Buffalo! Welcome back from your vacation! Thanks for the info on this round. Looks pretty impressive for a little ol’ .22 if a guy had to use it for self defense. Stay cool back there, it looks miserably humid! -OG
I am really enjoying these rimfire videos; especially the 22lr and 22 wmr videos. I even picked up a 6" barrel Heritage Rough Rider, with both the .22lr and .22wmr cylinders, on sale for $139; because it looked like great fun at the range. Also, Buffalo, your videos inspired me to do some testing for myself, just for the fun of it. I do it when developing loads for my centerfire pistol and rifle ammo and I just wanted to see what results I would get from my rifle and revolver.
Heritage is making a lot better Quality firearm, than 20 year's ago. I have a "59" Ruger "Super Single" convertible that my dad left me it has a micro adjustable rear sight -- love the configuration of a Colt type revolver! Cheap to shoot & very versatile. Did you know you can get .22 W.R.F. that will shoot out of your magnum cylinder ( a Kinda forgotten caliber that is being produced again) they leave the barrel about 1000 fps " if I remember correctly "!
Nice video Buffalo. I really miss the "know your limits" videos. Are you planning any more?
Actually I have a channel update coming soon, I don't want to let the cat out of the bag completely but I am going to be doubling my video output starting in August and that will give me more opportunities to do the "funner" videos like I used to do. So you will see some more of those limitations videos soon.
She is hotter than a sheriff's pistol up here in western Canada and a tad smokey, so I'm feeling the heat and the smoke and ash is keeping me indoors looking out. I guess ill get my range time with you buffalo.....good info.
Interesting results. Just punching holes. That is basically what is being done with any firearm. Some holes are just bigger than others.
I really like all of your comparisons between the .22 cartridges and firearms.
Glad to have you back. Hope you and your family had a great time on vacation.
Thank you! We really enjoyed the break. We hadn't went anywhere like that in a long time.
I love your channel. Glad that you made it back safely and it good to see you. Continued Blessings.
From all the test I've watched on the Tube, looks like the Stingers have performed the best, Speer needs a gold dot in 22 LR.
I think they have one
Maybe it’s .22 mag I’m thinking of
Very interesting results, i’m kind of surprised 22 inches, is a lot for a 22 to go through
Wow, great job, thanks Mr. Buffalo, this video show me how effective is the 22lr special this the federal punch 22lr ammunition for self defense.
Because of my job as a driver sometimes carry my 9mm it can be a little bit uncomfortable specifically when it Hot on summer or cold on winter in Florida., Which yeah it got a weird whether change.
So last year i bought a Ruger LCP 2 in 22lr for practice/plinking on the range that is more cheaper than shot my 9mm all the time and as a pocket Carry gun.
The ammunition that used to carry for self defense was CCI stinger and CCI mini mags, or Aguila Intersector but because of the pandemic it was kind of hard to find.
And i saw this ammunition lauch by Federal, and i bought some of then, i shoot it on the range and it runs pretty good on my Ruger but i were still got my doubts about it for self defense.
But now by Watching this video, i can trust that it will do the job done on a thread.
I carry this on my gun for pocket Carry and i got 2 magazines extra, one with 10 CCI stinger and the second one with 14 CCI mini mags, wich should be enough to stop and attacker.
A double tap with the fed punch = dead man
Flat nose with controlled velocity tend to penetrate deeper. There are videos of 9mm that do the same. The velocity and penetrating effect of punch is a game changer.
Glad your back! Great video!
Thanks! It sure felt good to be back on the range!
Great video. When I open my gun safer looking for a good, "what shall I carry today" choice I generally skip over the .22LRs. Love the cartridge, and growing up on a farm, I was always impressed with the capability of this little round especially when it came to dealing with threats to the livestock. But I personally believe there is a practical limit to how hard you can push this little bullet, out of a pocket carry gun, before it tumbles or otherwise becomes unpredictable. Rifle performance is another matter and I have no issues keeping a .22 rifle handy for a variety of reasons. So to me looking at a .22LR pocket carry option is not a reasonable option. I do enjoy watching these videos to see how far ammunition technology has come.
A lot of people dont have much money to have more than a .22-LR.
They cant open a safe and choose their “gun of the day”.
If you don't mind sharing more, I would be interested in hearing about the effectiveness of the 22lr against predators on your farm. Were you using a rifle by chance? I have wondered for a while about a 22 rifle for coyotes, within 50 yards...
@@scottphipps3577 I’ve used .22LR on Coyotes out to about fifty yards but I was using a bolt action rifle. Worked well. I’ve also used the shot rounds on rats within 10 feet or so. Other than that the .22LR works very well for small game.
@@jjjsmith2497 that's a garbage answer full of bullshit. You can get a .38 special revolver or a 380acp semi auto for what a 22 pistol costs. There is no excuse
The Punch is designed for Self Defence. That usually happens in a 12-15 yard range. If you want longer range accuracy then you'll need a diffrent round designedfor long range. For self defence you want tumble. Tumbling cuts and tears causing more internal damage. I alternate my mag load with punch and Sniper 60 grain.
Nice video,
Looks like a good winter carry ammo to me
Seems like a bunch of us took a little vacation at the same time. That "Punch" ammo is definitely interesting. You look good and rested Buffalo, glad you're back. 👍
Darn those Silvertip's are no joke! Those Federal punch are good too, I usually use CCI Mini mag solid nose exclusively but some of these new round's look pretty exceptional too. People just don't take a .22lr seriously, but they kill more people every year than any other caliber.
Cool test. I'm not sure if it is any better than other 22LR or not. What I would hope for in 22LR for self defense use would be enough energy to break bone. Shot placement would obviously be even more critical than for other calibers. That said, no one wants holes poked in them!
Those Punch are no joke!👍
They surprised me with the penetration! Thanks for stopping in man I know you stay pretty busy on your own great channel! Keep up the good work!
@@buffalosoutdoors Thank you brother.😎
Nice work, 22 inches 29gr. bullet out of a revolver, wow! Might have to find some for my Bearcat.
The first round fired had a much louder report than 2nd and third makes Me think that Federal has a charge consistency issue . All said I believe that revolver 22 Lr would perform satisfactory loaded hot
I couldn't tell much difference in the report there at the range but that was a pretty good drop in velocity between those 2 shots. Thanks!
@chris mclaughlin with automated reloading machines this could be true , even hand loads can be inadvertently double charged but you know this already. I will say this I bought some high quality 357 mag ammo once that was so hot that it flattened the primers and the trigger guard of the big N Frame bit the backside of my middle finger. I pulled a bullet and weighed the charge at 21.5 grains and called the factory who said it was consistent with the round but asked me to ship the remainder of the 50 Rd box . The company sent me back a nice letter claiming that nothing was found out of the ordinary with the cartridges along with 2 full boxes of the identical ammo . On a hunch I pulled a bullet and weighed the charge 19.4 grains it was and the powder appeared to be identical.
@chris mclaughlin Maybe that's true but for anyone reading this who doesn't already know, .22lr isn't going to blow a firearm up no matter how hotly it's loaded, the risk is probably a squib getting lodged in the barrel from undercharging. *Typed this and then remembered .22s with plastic bolts exist. IF you own and are trying to shoot a Zip 22, disregard what I said above and just hang it on your wall and buy something different before it chooses one of the myriad ways it has of hurting you.
@chris mclaughlin absolutely, centrefire rifles are a whole different ballgame and even 22 carries risks as you say. I don't have much experience with federal but it sounds like you've had enough experiences to make dismissing them offhand a bad idea.
Edit: I have personally seen far more problems with handloaded rounds than any factory ammo too, for what it's worth. The theoretical precision afforded by doing it yourself is in many cases just that, theoretical.
Welcome back ! Nice to recharge , do any fishing ? Suprising results in(out) of gel.
That wound channel from the rifle is not from proof of the HP opening, it is from a cavitation due to higher velocity. Followed by a compression explosion causing the burn marks
not a HP
Hello Buffalo I'm always looking forward to your videos always great content and info. You mentioned you are ready to melt down your blocks just wondering if you can make a video of that seeing that I never see any content about it on any channels. Thank you
Awesome video. I like the rifle performance for that load
Yo Buffalo!! Hope all is well on your end brother, glad to hear you took a much needed vacation also! Heck I need one myself...especially with the way the country is goin nowadays.😵 Thanks bud & God bless you & yours!🙏👍🇺🇸💯
Thanks man! I appreciate that. Yeah it was long overdue. I am now rested and motivated to get back to my favorite hobby though!
Excellent work Buffalo, maybe try a good cheap 40 grain lead bullet next like a Remington thunderbolt to see how they perform in contrast to all these jacketed .22s
Thanks! I always appreciate the suggestions and ideas.... that's what keeps the channel rolling!
@@buffalosoutdoors I appreciate the reply Buffalo, it’s no problem just tryin to help you out. Wanted to see myself anyways cause me and my folks out west in New Mexico and Texas have killed lots of jackrabbits with .22s and lead 40 grain round noses always seemed to kill them just as dead or better than the jacketed and hollow points (and before the Rona they were cheaper too lol)
Thank you Buffalo for the effort in putting the info out there .
Good video...i've always used cci velocitors in my walther p22 with a 3 1/4 inch barrel with great results and perfect reliability....i think I'm gonna stick with them...
Velocitors are hard to find these days. But well worth seeking out.
@@davidcox3076 well I have about 4 thousand rounds...i think I'm good for a while lol
@@steventuck1524 If you find a couple thousand of them missing one day.... it certainly wasn't me who took them. : )
@@davidcox3076 well I would be happy to share...we gotta look out for each other, especially in these times!
I started using the velocitors to run in some pistols that wouldn't feed a slower cartridge. Like the Sig Mosquito. I carry a Ruger sr22, 4.5 in. It feeds reliably. The cartridge in the magazine lines up almost directly into the chamber. Nice flat groups out to 25 yds.
Imagine 16 of these rounds out of a Kel-tec P17! I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of that…😮
I really enjoyed your series on the Federal .22;r Punch rounds. THANK YOU! LMHSr
Never underestimate a 22lr, it can hurt someone in a defense mode !!
Although many say 22 ain’t nothing to worry about. I have never had anyone volunteer to stand there and let me shoot you with it!😛🤪
That Federal punch is amazing!!! Great video by the way
After trying 50 rounds in my lcp II , it is my new carry round when I use this for deep concealment.
Deep concealment?
You mean you keep it in your prison wallet?
@@BB-1990 I was like, "prison wallet"...?
Then it dawned on me. DEEP concealment lmao
Gold.
Paul Harrell just did a video on these
... seemed incredibly consistent speed wise....
Glad you had a good time with the family. They are very, very important.
Thank you David you are so right about that.
Good to see you back again. Got your batteries recharged 👍🇺🇸
Glad to see you were able to enjoy some time away with family.
Good stuff! I always liked/trusted Federal Ammunition. It surprised me with the inconsistency. Still looks pretty good.
thank you Buffalo! glad you guys had a fun vacation!
CCI MINI MAGS are still KING … but these other fellers are nice too
Mini Mag solid's are my go to .22 lr's also. Grew up on CCI and know exactly what their performance in the field are!😚😊 Stinger's hit hard..but not even close on the penetration level.
Frank Atchison : That is the truth!
CCI mini mags are all I use. In .22.
Just bought a hundred of these, some for my 22 pistols and some for my Henry lever action rifle, which is where most of it will go I think
Throw that alarm clock in the lake. Enjoy your time with your family. Cheers from Texas.
Glad you got some time away from the grinds of daily life with your family Buffalo!
Love these rounds. They really do pack a paunch.
.22LR is no joke. Will kill just as quick as any other calibre.
Congrats on your vacation, I hadnt had one in 7 yrs to n went out west a few days, it did me a world of good even too
Down in Alabama Florida myself this week, having a good time first time here. Great video as always.
I’m holding out for Federal Donkey Punch +P+.
😂 same now
Thanks for the video Buffalo, just got back from orange Beach Al on the gulf coast this past Tuesday myself. Really beautiful on the gulf coast hope y'all had a great time.👍👍
That's awesome man. We were on the gulf side as well. We split our time between Mexico Beach and PCB.
Makes me happy with my Tippmanm M422 purchase. Now I just have to order some of these rounds!
I bought 4 boxes of this for my lcp 2. Stuff is really hot. I'm talking ball of flame out the end. Sadly it wasn't reliable in my Ruger. It caused a lot of double feeds in an other wise extremely reliable gun. Sticking to stingers for now and just picked up four boxes of Winchester silver tips today.
Just a guess, but it seems that placing the second gel block against the first one gave the first block rear support, thereby helping it to provide more resistance to the incoming slug.
More of a tic tac than a slug
Welcome back!!
Interesting.....as always.
Fine job Buffalo
Thank Bill!
Glad you are back. Thanks for another great video
Great video! Love all of your 22lr shows
Penetration is everything. People are always talking about wound tracks. You hit someone with two or three rounds that federal punch and they're going down game over
A vacation to Florida in the summer? OOF.
Thanks! It was much overdue! We're not gonna wait so long before we go back this time.
Thanks for bringing us along buffalo
Just bought 500 rounds of these for my tx22,tx22 compact & m&p 15/22
Glad you and the family were able to take a break.
Thank you! We enjoyed it.
Still impressed with the Silver Tip.
I like how you country people talk.
Thank yee!
The high penetration of the federal punch is concerning. We dont want to over penetrate.
You allways do the best tests Thank you
Federal punch has been put to shame by regular round nose projectiles😂
Hey good for you all! Great family time!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Those little boola’s really hum dinger. I haven’t seen these Federal Punch here up North. Have to keep my eyes open
The reason it goes so deep is it is more stable than other rounds, so less tumbling.
i just received 3 boxes of that ammo, haven't fired any yet, be shooting an LCP2 22 cal pistol, and hopefully my Tippmann can fire it also.
Love the testing on this!! keep up the good work
Great video that was exactly what I was looking for!
My man's sweating like a freight train.
Not for me. The Federal punch line in both 22 and 9mm seems like an expensive solution searching for a problem.
Federal hst in 9mm seems better.
Another excellent video Buffalo, as always!