I like that you try to portray Dawn Wall as it doesn't count, but it literally opens with them getting shot at while rock climbing and getting kidnapped.
I would unironically watch a movie about route setters driven to their limit and holding the climbers hostage by making them climb something hard they set, great movie idea
Never seen any of these films, yet I am terrified of doing ant rock climbing or mountianeering... Probably because of news reports and friend's serious injuries...😮
i can imagine a japanese or korean indie movie trilogy about this: SendOrDie, SendOrDie 2tiny2crimp, SendOrDie III dragon dyno... it would have over the top gore and CGI so crap it becomes great and it would become a cult classic
Don't let him fool you! It is as deadly as the movies suggest! Within the first 5 minutes of being in a bouldering gym, a volume whipped out a knife and stabbed me in the neck. I died 30 seconds later from blood loss. True story.
I'm in the background of that Love Hard scene! It was shot in the gym I worked at, all the staff were asked if they wanted to work as background actors. Funny thing is the climbing displayed in the film and on set was not at all how you would normally climb in a gym. There's a part of the scene where the main girl gets dropped from the top of the wall 40ft to the mats and then just sticks the landing like she didn't fall 4 stories 😅
Watch Cliffhanger again watch the scene where the girl dies again. If you watch carefully, you'll see that Frank is actually laughing like a maniac when she falls to her death! A hilarious blooper that made it to the final cut.
3:36 I literally almost choked on my food laughing at Magnus going to the gym to "jump up and down with a ball above his head" 😂 it might be the funniest thing I have seen all day
I remember thinking that Black Diamond should have sued the producers of Cliffhanger for showing their Bod harness buckle failing under body weight. Also Stallone had a literal bolt gun. Bang, the bolt's in with a hanger. Eiger Sanction was pretty well done. The accident where only Clint survives was based on the uber-iconic 1936 climbing disaster on the Nordwand (north face of the Eiger), when the party of four young Germans all perished trying to retreat in severe weather. That was when the face earned its nickname, the "Mordwand" (wall of death). The attempt to rescue the final survivor, from Wikipedia: " In the morning, the three guides returned, traversing the face again from a hole near the Eigerwand Station despite avalanche-prone conditions. Toni Kurz was still alive but almost helpless. After four nights exposed to the elements, one of his hands and his arm was completely frozen. Kurz hauled himself back to the mountain face after cutting loose Angerer below him. The guides were not able to pass an unclimbable overhang that separated them from Kurz, but they managed to get a rope long enough to reach Kurz by tying two ropes together. While abseiling, however, Kurz could not get the knot that joined the two ropes to pass through his carabiner. He tried for hours to reach his rescuers, who were just a few metres below him, desperately trying to move himself past the knot, but in vain. He then began to lose consciousness. One of the guides, climbing on another's shoulders, was able to touch the tip of Kurz's crampons with the head of his ice-axe but could not reach higher.[4] Faced with the futility of his situation, he famously said only "Ich kann nicht mehr" ("I can't [go on] anymore") and then died."
Probably also worth noting that one of the crew on The Eiger Sanction, a climber and cameraman named David Knowles, died during the filming. It was from the usual thing that kills people on the Eiger Nordwand: a rock falling a very long way and hitting someone. That wall is now fairly safe to climb, as I understand it, because people start very early (the middle of the night, generally) and plan to be off the wall before the melting ice starts bombarding the slopes with debris. All that said, mountaineering is a very different sport than rock climbing. They share some skills, but then so do running a 60m sprint and playing soccer.
Extemism is what makes climbing different it's like watching a biker doing an insane jump, it will make people more interested in the sport they wont start free sloing but it is the initial intigue which grabs people
I always wished that we'd made a film about the construction of the NROCs via ferrata in west virginia in 2002. I wanted to call it 'The Lord of the Rungs'. Budump-bump!
Thing is, I do think it depends on the kind of climbing you're doing and what is interesting to watch. Cutting edge alpinism and big wall climbing (even for established/easier routes) is inherently very dangerous. I think the issue is the hyper focus on subjective hazards (like free soloing or poor/infrequent gear placement that fails) as opposed to objective hazards like rock fall, avalanches etc... If you've done a lot of expedition level climbing or alpinism these things happen all the time and are constant hazards. I was just ski-touring and climbing in the alps a few weeks ago and while touring on easy terrain was almost killed by a large rock fall, luckily it didn't trigger an avalanche as well - but it narrowly missed me. Another example, climbing in Bolivia I hiked to high camp at 17,000 ft. We wake up to climb and I realize I have SEVERE food poisoning. We sleep a few more hours, pack our things up, and have to hike treacherous terrain, at high altitude, while sick and with almost no chance of rescue if there is a fall or other injury. Those two examples are also common. My point being that big alpine climbing is actually very dangerous and showing those kinds of hazards would be far more interesting than people being blown up by nitroglycerin...
i love your humor, great video! slightly surprised that when describing the 6 different type of climbing you didn't use 6 clip of magnus for extra meme points LOL
Honestly, after a year of bouldering i've had less injuries than after one semester of handball or field hockey. And grand total of zero times have i gone back home covered in bandages with a bleeding scalp, so definitely better outcomes than football (the one where you actually kick the ball).
For a great perspective on free soloing, watch Magnus's video from a free solo of the 200+ meter Armatron wall at Red Rocks, NV, with 'the' Alex Hannold, who appeared to sandbag Magnus into it. The pro sport climber Magnus was clearly gripped at times, while Alex casually filmed him with a big camera while balanced on narrow ledges. The desert-varnished RR sandstone is beautiful to see. At one point Magnus says something about what if he fainted and fell off. Hannold points out that it's the same behind the wheel, etc. But climbers take that kind of risk constantly, 'scrambling' on 3rd class terrain (using the hands but unroped) over drop-offs on approach and descent, and most elite climbers are as comfortable soloing short sections of easy 5th-class terrain as a newby is on the approach trail. Hannold is a mutant, but I think it's all relative.
Y'know, another thing movies portray inaccurately is driving cars. They're always getting in car chases, going off jumps, having cars explode, etc.! But I've driven a fair amount & I can honestly say that kind of stuff hardly ever comes up IRL..
And movies depict most Englishmen as ruthless and cunning villains. But I’ve lived in England all my life and hardly anyone is a ruthless and cunning villain.
Yes! I am a climbing fan and Motorsport fan here. Obviously F1 was an extremely dangerous sport in the past but it’s a lot safer since then. I mean a driver hasn’t died since 2015
@@noelvalenzarro We did not just try, but succeeded. But that's flippant. To be serious, compare the results of British colonialism with any other colonial power, or with the rule of local rulers dispossessed by the British, and see which you like best. Also, take a look at Nigel Biggar's book.
Before WWII there were three to five thousand climbers in the US; with thirty to fifty deaths a year; now there are three to five million people who go climbing each year; with the same number of deaths. So as you said; much safer.
Cool video. One example that often surprises non-climbers is that skiing and snowboarding are generally more dangerous activities than climbing. But obviously, saying you’re taking the family skiing isn’t seen as some hardcore thing the way taking your family out to the crag sometimes is.
I actually think a movie about gym climbers could be very good. It would focus on the atmosphere, camaraderie, friendlyness, why people go there... It could be fkn good. Just look at climbing channels on youtube. They aint full of actions and many of them arent the very elite climbers even - still they get good numbers because people are just interested in that world.
3:41 that's Cimb Cincy in cincinatti. Did a USAC comp there a few months back and got completely fucked up on that orange route lol. also that black boulder was in the MYB round and apparently only one or two people topped it so hats off to mr. Climbing Stuff for making that move
Actually there were Dynos in early climing! In Elbsandsteingebirge in Saxonia, Germany which got a long history of climbing, you got routes which involve "Sachsensprung" (may be translated to Saxon's jump) which is used to traverse between different rock towers. Also it is regarded a legitimate way of sending to just jump from a neighboring tower to the one you want to top. Oh and human pyramids are also allowed to send. They even got a grading system specifically for the jumps besides their general grading system. Example: th-cam.com/video/ndoyMDCY-m4/w-d-xo.html (Triggerwarning: Rock climbing in Saxonia is mostly trad style without chalk and involes a lot of slab climbing on slopers)
From a research arcticle "Evaluation of Injury and Fatality Risk in Rock and Ice Climbing" from 2010: "Overall, climbing sports had a lower injury incidence and severity score than many popular sports, including basketball, sailing or soccer; indoor climbing ranked the lowest in terms of injuries of all sports assessed."
I am a mountain biker and I feel the same about mountain biking, if more people only knew how good it is to just cruise through the woods instead most people think about huge gaps jumps drops
A decent documentary about real rock climbing is “Jäger des Augenblicks - Ein Abenteuer am Mount Roraima”. It of course uses narrative to dramatise things but the climbing shown is legit.
His Dark Materials is not a movie (actually, there might have been a movie? I can't remember, and don't care), but a famous (and well written) series of books, which references rock climbing, during which nobody dies! I suspect the author had experience climbing though, because he makes such casual reference of Friends and other niche climbing terms that I think it just went over people's heads anyway.
I think the issue is that it's hard to portray rock climbing in a compelling way to the average viewer because there isn't much of a team aspect to it, so that can't be a source of drama. Also there's no points to give someone with limited knowledge a frame of reference for how well the climber is performing. The only way to really make it compelling or exciting to an average viewer is to make it about danger. If someone almost slips and falls to their death but then manages to barely save themselves, that's a lot more exciting than someone getting a cramp and having to contemplate if they can make it to the top or if they'll have to repel back down. At the end of the day, making movies is about getting butts in the seat, and writers/directors have to make the movies that sell to the widest possible audience.
Fun fact I never saw the ending of Cliffhanger For context, I was a kid when the movie showed on TV, it ran late and my parents had a rule where I had to go to bed by exactly ten p.m, so it didn’t matter that the movie was almost over, that’s the rule, no exceptions
The real thing with Ben moon and jerry moffatt is the best climbing movie that I have ever seen to date definitely worth a watch I've honestly watched it 20 odd times
In cliffhanger, the scene where she dies she’s wearing a black diamond harness which is shown to fail in an unrealistic way, black diamond actually sued and made some money because of this.
12:00 That would be dumb, yes. But couldn't you make a movie about indoor bouldering the same way there's movies about football; there is no thread of death there. Just a movie about someone training to be the best climber they can and winning the big comp or whatever.
Give a try to the animated movie "Summit of The Gods" it's not a rock climbing movie, it's an alpine mountaineering movie, but it's the best climbing I've ever seen. Surprise alert though, someone still dies.
Free soloing is fascinating and learning about the people who do it is very fun, I think free solo is a fun watch, but I would hope that lay people wouldn’t equate free solo with climbing. Alex even points out all the time that he is not even close to being one of the best climbers and climbs well under the grade many of the greatest climbers can climb, what he does is purely spiritual for him.
There are TONS of movies about climbing where no one dies: but those are movies made _for climbers_ (e.g., Reel Rock). The problem arises when you make movies for non-climbers. I mean, imagine a movie about Nascar made for the general public... wonder what's gonna happen?
There are some climbing scenes in les rivières pourpres, and as far as i remember nobody dies while climbing there? However the kill count in total is still quite high lol, good movie imo
In Vertical Limit they also placing gear while top roping 🤔. They did a really bad job on "researching" climbing for this movie (or they just did not care).
The actors actually called them out on this; like why don't I have a helmet; why don't I have beard stubble if I am fighting for my life for several days on a mountain? The answer basically was then the audience can't see your good looks as readily.
"No one would watch a full length movie about people climbing safely." Yeah I definitely didn't just spend an hour watching Louis and Magnus. Haha. That would be wild. [Shifty eyes]
rockclimbing is a form of climbing. this should be absolutly basics and obvious. anything that is not rockclimbing - climbing rock .. for fuck sake - is as well another form of climbing. its rockclimbers who need to get these things all twisted to successfully identify as 'rockclimbers'. downstream of this .. lots of confusion. e.g. an expert content creator can talk definitions gibberish for 13 min and 100 people commenting without anyone calling it out
Literally procrastinating my research paper I’m writing right now about the mediatization of current times showing this incorrect depiction of climbing safety
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I like that you try to portray Dawn Wall as it doesn't count, but it literally opens with them getting shot at while rock climbing and getting kidnapped.
And they push someone off a cliff!
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I was gonna comment the same thing
Sure, but its totally unrelated to the film. It's a story from his youth. 🤷♂️
That section was disconnected from the actual climbing part, the climbing for the Dawn wall wasn’t focused on danger at all
I see Alex Honnold's strategy: no gear, so Hollywood can't make a film that kills you by gear failure! Big brain.
they could make the rock fail. That would an innovation?
I would unironically watch a movie about route setters driven to their limit and holding the climbers hostage by making them climb something hard they set, great movie idea
The twist is they break the beta.
Never seen any of these films, yet I am terrified of doing ant rock climbing or mountianeering...
Probably because of news reports and friend's serious injuries...😮
i can imagine a japanese or korean indie movie trilogy about this: SendOrDie, SendOrDie 2tiny2crimp, SendOrDie III dragon dyno... it would have over the top gore and CGI so crap it becomes great and it would become a cult classic
i also would watch this movie
I'm so glad to find out that I can start climbing/bouldering without dying in the first 5 minutes
Don't let him fool you! It is as deadly as the movies suggest! Within the first 5 minutes of being in a bouldering gym, a volume whipped out a knife and stabbed me in the neck. I died 30 seconds later from blood loss. True story.
@@AceRanger20actually, it’s happened to me 3 times last week
You know the bit in the movie where the guy falls to his death? That's a V2 in my gym
Dude, you are ridiculously funny!
And you had me with "this Alex handhold guy free soloing mount everest" ROFL
I m still fucking rolling on the ground while writting this because of that joke
"Alex Handhold" is a years old joke, he's just repeating old-ass memes that others came up with.
@@danielwesterlund1905 Oh, I didn't know. But the main point was Mount Everest anyway :)
PewDiePie made a bouldering video. It’s all come full circle.
Now it’s your turn to move to Japan and have a kid.
He already has part 2 fown
It's come full boulder. Or giant pebble.
I'm in the background of that Love Hard scene! It was shot in the gym I worked at, all the staff were asked if they wanted to work as background actors.
Funny thing is the climbing displayed in the film and on set was not at all how you would normally climb in a gym. There's a part of the scene where the main girl gets dropped from the top of the wall 40ft to the mats and then just sticks the landing like she didn't fall 4 stories 😅
One of maybe two creators on YT where i don't skip the sponsored segment
Me watching this: but what about Princess Diaries?
Climbing stuff: shows the scene from Princess Diaries
Jakob Schubert breaking a hold and barely holding on during FA of project BIG > some crappy gear failure. Hollywood, learn your lesson goddamnit
8:25 "Thats that one with Alex HandHold guy free solo mount Everest" LMAO
I insightyolod mt Everest flash style and got the speed record too.
Watch Cliffhanger again watch the scene where the girl dies again. If you watch carefully, you'll see that Frank is actually laughing like a maniac when she falls to her death! A hilarious blooper that made it to the final cut.
3:36 I literally almost choked on my food laughing at Magnus going to the gym to "jump up and down with a ball above his head" 😂 it might be the funniest thing I have seen all day
You cannot die in that pants!
The route setters did it! It all makes sense now!
Who else did you expect? Your first hint should have been when they started using dual tex as foot holds... and not the textured side!
They just needed new ways to realize harder routes.
We NEED "Requiem for a Dyno"!!!!
I remember thinking that Black Diamond should have sued the producers of Cliffhanger for showing their Bod harness buckle failing under body weight. Also Stallone had a literal bolt gun. Bang, the bolt's in with a hanger.
Eiger Sanction was pretty well done. The accident where only Clint survives was based on the uber-iconic 1936 climbing disaster on the Nordwand (north face of the Eiger), when the party of four young Germans all perished trying to retreat in severe weather. That was when the face earned its nickname, the "Mordwand" (wall of death). The attempt to rescue the final survivor, from Wikipedia:
" In the morning, the three guides returned, traversing the face again from a hole near the Eigerwand Station despite avalanche-prone conditions. Toni Kurz was still alive but almost helpless. After four nights exposed to the elements, one of his hands and his arm was completely frozen. Kurz hauled himself back to the mountain face after cutting loose Angerer below him. The guides were not able to pass an unclimbable overhang that separated them from Kurz, but they managed to get a rope long enough to reach Kurz by tying two ropes together. While abseiling, however, Kurz could not get the knot that joined the two ropes to pass through his carabiner. He tried for hours to reach his rescuers, who were just a few metres below him, desperately trying to move himself past the knot, but in vain. He then began to lose consciousness. One of the guides, climbing on another's shoulders, was able to touch the tip of Kurz's crampons with the head of his ice-axe but could not reach higher.[4] Faced with the futility of his situation, he famously said only "Ich kann nicht mehr" ("I can't [go on] anymore") and then died."
Probably also worth noting that one of the crew on The Eiger Sanction, a climber and cameraman named David Knowles, died during the filming. It was from the usual thing that kills people on the Eiger Nordwand: a rock falling a very long way and hitting someone.
That wall is now fairly safe to climb, as I understand it, because people start very early (the middle of the night, generally) and plan to be off the wall before the melting ice starts bombarding the slopes with debris.
All that said, mountaineering is a very different sport than rock climbing. They share some skills, but then so do running a 60m sprint and playing soccer.
Extemism is what makes climbing different it's like watching a biker doing an insane jump, it will make people more interested in the sport they wont start free sloing but it is the initial intigue which grabs people
I think it keeps most people out of it
I always wished that we'd made a film about the construction of the NROCs via ferrata in west virginia in 2002. I wanted to call it 'The Lord of the Rungs'. Budump-bump!
honestly dude, I don't even climb anymore but you're my favourite content creator. Would literally listen to you rant about a sock for an hour.
When I find your content really funny, it‘s your „commercials“ that are HILARIOUS!! 😂😂Men. You‘re a funny guy if you don‘t already know that!
Thank you my lord for the formidible entertainment you provide with each and every audio-visual youtube video :)
Thing is, I do think it depends on the kind of climbing you're doing and what is interesting to watch. Cutting edge alpinism and big wall climbing (even for established/easier routes) is inherently very dangerous. I think the issue is the hyper focus on subjective hazards (like free soloing or poor/infrequent gear placement that fails) as opposed to objective hazards like rock fall, avalanches etc... If you've done a lot of expedition level climbing or alpinism these things happen all the time and are constant hazards. I was just ski-touring and climbing in the alps a few weeks ago and while touring on easy terrain was almost killed by a large rock fall, luckily it didn't trigger an avalanche as well - but it narrowly missed me. Another example, climbing in Bolivia I hiked to high camp at 17,000 ft. We wake up to climb and I realize I have SEVERE food poisoning. We sleep a few more hours, pack our things up, and have to hike treacherous terrain, at high altitude, while sick and with almost no chance of rescue if there is a fall or other injury. Those two examples are also common. My point being that big alpine climbing is actually very dangerous and showing those kinds of hazards would be far more interesting than people being blown up by nitroglycerin...
i love your humor, great video! slightly surprised that when describing the 6 different type of climbing you didn't use 6 clip of magnus for extra meme points LOL
This dude always cracks me up. Good shit. 😂
Stallone was the bomb in cliffhanger yo..great video!
Honestly, after a year of bouldering i've had less injuries than after one semester of handball or field hockey. And grand total of zero times have i gone back home covered in bandages with a bleeding scalp, so definitely better outcomes than football (the one where you actually kick the ball).
For a great perspective on free soloing, watch Magnus's video from a free solo of the 200+ meter Armatron wall at Red Rocks, NV, with 'the' Alex Hannold, who appeared to sandbag Magnus into it. The pro sport climber Magnus was clearly gripped at times, while Alex casually filmed him with a big camera while balanced on narrow ledges. The desert-varnished RR sandstone is beautiful to see.
At one point Magnus says something about what if he fainted and fell off. Hannold points out that it's the same behind the wheel, etc. But climbers take that kind of risk constantly, 'scrambling' on 3rd class terrain (using the hands but unroped) over drop-offs on approach and descent, and most elite climbers are as comfortable soloing short sections of easy 5th-class terrain as a newby is on the approach trail. Hannold is a mutant, but I think it's all relative.
Y'know, another thing movies portray inaccurately is driving cars. They're always getting in car chases, going off jumps, having cars explode, etc.! But I've driven a fair amount & I can honestly say that kind of stuff hardly ever comes up IRL..
And movies depict most Englishmen as ruthless and cunning villains. But I’ve lived in England all my life and hardly anyone is a ruthless and cunning villain.
Yes! I am a climbing fan and Motorsport fan here. Obviously F1 was an extremely dangerous sport in the past but it’s a lot safer since then. I mean a driver hasn’t died since 2015
@@CartoTypeWell y’all did try to colonize half the world which lead to the decimation of many groups and the cultural eradication of countless peoples
@@noelvalenzarro We did not just try, but succeeded. But that's flippant. To be serious, compare the results of British colonialism with any other colonial power, or with the rule of local rulers dispossessed by the British, and see which you like best. Also, take a look at Nigel Biggar's book.
Another classic and entertaining take! thx
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Dude i would watch that movie about the V10 bomb
Before WWII there were three to five thousand climbers in the US; with thirty to fifty deaths a year; now there are three to five million people who go climbing each year; with the same number of deaths. So as you said; much safer.
Yup. Try telling people that rock climbing is statistically safer than driving, and they think you're taking the piss.
I feel for you guys. I'm a motorcycle racer and when I tell people how rare a fatality is in my sport they just flat-out don't believe me.
Cool video. One example that often surprises non-climbers is that skiing and snowboarding are generally more dangerous activities than climbing. But obviously, saying you’re taking the family skiing isn’t seen as some hardcore thing the way taking your family out to the crag sometimes is.
Taking the family to sushi train is pretty extreme too. Always a gamble.
I actually think a movie about gym climbers could be very good. It would focus on the atmosphere, camaraderie, friendlyness, why people go there... It could be fkn good. Just look at climbing channels on youtube. They aint full of actions and many of them arent the very elite climbers even - still they get good numbers because people are just interested in that world.
How did he know I’m not wearing pants
Everyone's been too embarrassed to say anything but your webcam has been on this whole time.
Your channel feels like it would have been massive if you were around in 2013. Your attitude is that of old legends. Good stuff.
OMG, new hilarity high bar set. Jayzus, you are on fire, man.
Damn. Rugne are so lucky to get sponsored by some one as influential in this sport as "climbing stuff".
3:41 that's Cimb Cincy in cincinatti. Did a USAC comp there a few months back and got completely fucked up on that orange route lol. also that black boulder was in the MYB round and apparently only one or two people topped it so hats off to mr. Climbing Stuff for making that move
Alex Handhold 😭😂
Actually there were Dynos in early climing! In Elbsandsteingebirge in Saxonia, Germany which got a long history of climbing, you got routes which involve "Sachsensprung" (may be translated to Saxon's jump) which is used to traverse between different rock towers. Also it is regarded a legitimate way of sending to just jump from a neighboring tower to the one you want to top. Oh and human pyramids are also allowed to send. They even got a grading system specifically for the jumps besides their general grading system.
Example: th-cam.com/video/ndoyMDCY-m4/w-d-xo.html (Triggerwarning: Rock climbing in Saxonia is mostly trad style without chalk and involes a lot of slab climbing on slopers)
From a research arcticle "Evaluation of Injury and Fatality Risk in Rock and Ice Climbing" from 2010: "Overall, climbing sports had a lower injury incidence and severity score than many popular sports, including basketball, sailing or soccer; indoor climbing ranked the lowest in terms of injuries of all sports assessed."
I’m working on a cool outdoor dyno, will be in the Reddit at some point.
I didnt know until right now in my 36th year of life that the beginning of that Ace Ventura movie was from another movie
He does it again, solid gold!!
Fall (2022) is an alright movie about falling I mean climbing. 😆
I am a mountain biker and I feel the same about mountain biking, if more people only knew how good it is to just cruise through the woods instead most people think about huge gaps jumps drops
A decent documentary about real rock climbing is “Jäger des Augenblicks - Ein Abenteuer am Mount Roraima”. It of course uses narrative to dramatise things but the climbing shown is legit.
Did you watch “Iwa-Kakeru! -Sport Climbing Girls”? Pretty solid anime that covers rock climbing in a sports like story.
I love your videos so much😂
I like how you discuss important topics in a funny way, it's quite creative
It's not the movies. It's the accidents.
The Thanos moment was unexpected xD
His Dark Materials is not a movie (actually, there might have been a movie? I can't remember, and don't care), but a famous (and well written) series of books, which references rock climbing, during which nobody dies! I suspect the author had experience climbing though, because he makes such casual reference of Friends and other niche climbing terms that I think it just went over people's heads anyway.
I was bummed after I bought free solo on TH-cam and it’s only like 10 minutes of actual climbing
The safe free soloing is outdoor bouldering or deep water solo climbing. But I think all type of climbing is interesting.
I think the issue is that it's hard to portray rock climbing in a compelling way to the average viewer because there isn't much of a team aspect to it, so that can't be a source of drama. Also there's no points to give someone with limited knowledge a frame of reference for how well the climber is performing. The only way to really make it compelling or exciting to an average viewer is to make it about danger. If someone almost slips and falls to their death but then manages to barely save themselves, that's a lot more exciting than someone getting a cramp and having to contemplate if they can make it to the top or if they'll have to repel back down.
At the end of the day, making movies is about getting butts in the seat, and writers/directors have to make the movies that sell to the widest possible audience.
Rock climbing as a hobby was also portrayed in the Big Bang Theory a few years back !
Damn I love your video
They are just perfect
Fun fact I never saw the ending of Cliffhanger
For context, I was a kid when the movie showed on TV, it ran late and my parents had a rule where I had to go to bed by exactly ten p.m, so it didn’t matter that the movie was almost over, that’s the rule, no exceptions
More movie breakdowns!!
Alex handhold 😂
Yeah, the guy that soloed Mount Everest! 😂
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The real thing with Ben moon and jerry moffatt is the best climbing movie that I have ever seen to date definitely worth a watch I've honestly watched it 20 odd times
Were you at North Mass Boulder in one of those clips
i would watch that movie for sure
he's climbing a rock, looks like rock climbing to me.
The real football, what the one where it spends 90% of the time in their hands? MURICA ;) JK loved the vid, Alex Handhold gag killed me :D
In cliffhanger, the scene where she dies she’s wearing a black diamond harness which is shown to fail in an unrealistic way, black diamond actually sued and made some money because of this.
"there's a bomb on top of the slab?"
"BETTER CALL ANNA HAZELNUT!!"
"slabby"
"football, the real one" unsuscribed, lol
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12:00 That would be dumb, yes. But couldn't you make a movie about indoor bouldering the same way there's movies about football; there is no thread of death there. Just a movie about someone training to be the best climber they can and winning the big comp or whatever.
Comp climbing movie would be crazy
best climbing channel hands down. please don't burn out!
I only recognize that opening scene of Cliffhanger from Ace Ventura 2. RIP to that Racoon.
Free Solo did get me watching random actual rock climbing content lol, so that’s cool. Dude seems nuts
Give a try to the animated movie "Summit of The Gods" it's not a rock climbing movie, it's an alpine mountaineering movie, but it's the best climbing I've ever seen. Surprise alert though, someone still dies.
I would add that into the 1970s; one in ten who went to the greater ranges died each year.
Free soloing is fascinating and learning about the people who do it is very fun, I think free solo is a fun watch, but I would hope that lay people wouldn’t equate free solo with climbing. Alex even points out all the time that he is not even close to being one of the best climbers and climbs well under the grade many of the greatest climbers can climb, what he does is purely spiritual for him.
There are TONS of movies about climbing where no one dies: but those are movies made _for climbers_ (e.g., Reel Rock). The problem arises when you make movies for non-climbers. I mean, imagine a movie about Nascar made for the general public... wonder what's gonna happen?
Can confirm, currently wearing the highballer pants and I have yet to die.
Yeah, that's it, promote indoor climbing and keep people out of the backcountry. I like that climbing real rock and gnarly peaks scares people.
Remember when David Lee Roth climbed that mountain on the music video?
Still waiting for "requiem for a dyno". In a cinema near me :(
Love watching your videos !! Keep up the work :D
There are some climbing scenes in les rivières pourpres, and as far as i remember nobody dies while climbing there? However the kill count in total is still quite high lol, good movie imo
In Vertical Limit they also placing gear while top roping 🤔. They did a really bad job on "researching" climbing for this movie (or they just did not care).
The actors actually called them out on this; like why don't I have a helmet; why don't I have beard stubble if I am fighting for my life for several days on a mountain?
The answer basically was then the audience can't see your good looks as readily.
"No one would watch a full length movie about people climbing safely."
Yeah I definitely didn't just spend an hour watching Louis and Magnus. Haha. That would be wild. [Shifty eyes]
Vertical limit is an absolute classic
Have you seen Touching the Void, which is a semi-documentary alpine climbing film. No one dies
I'm not a climber, once I get above about 10 feet I'm done, even indoor walls are terrifying
According to Game of Thrones attending weddings is more dangerous than climbing.
How is free-solo NOT rock climbing? they are literally climbing a rock in the most pure form..
You, sir, are a very funny man
rockclimbing is a form of climbing. this should be absolutly basics and obvious. anything that is not rockclimbing
- climbing rock .. for fuck sake - is as well another form of climbing.
its rockclimbers who need to get these things all twisted to successfully identify as 'rockclimbers'. downstream of this .. lots of confusion. e.g. an expert content creator can talk definitions gibberish for 13 min and 100 people commenting without anyone calling it out
Literally procrastinating my research paper I’m writing right now about the mediatization of current times showing this incorrect depiction of climbing safety
Was hoping to see a review of the old Batman series climbing scenes here.