This is Not Rock Climbing
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Timestamps because why not:
0:00 Intro
0:48 Cliffhanger
2:43 Rungne Sponsor
4:20 Vertical Limit
5:57 The Eiger Sanction
6:59 Free Solo vs Dawn Wall
9:17 Other Sport Movies
10:07 What is Rock Climbing?
11:45 A Real Climbing Movie
Music:
Clouds by Joakim Karud / joakimkarud
dizzy by Joakim Karud / joakimkarud
Credits:
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HOW DID YOU KNOW I'M NOT WEARING PANTS?!
I see Alex Honnold's strategy: no gear, so Hollywood can't make a film that kills you by gear failure! Big brain.
I like that you try to portray Dawn Wall as it doesn't count, but it literally opens with them getting shot at while rock climbing and getting kidnapped.
And they push someone off a cliff!
minor details
I was gonna comment the same thing
Sure, but its totally unrelated to the film. It's a story from his youth. 🤷♂️
That section was disconnected from the actual climbing part, the climbing for the Dawn wall wasn’t focused on danger at all
I'm so glad to find out that I can start climbing/bouldering without dying in the first 5 minutes
Don't let him fool you! It is as deadly as the movies suggest! Within the first 5 minutes of being in a bouldering gym, a volume whipped out a knife and stabbed me in the neck. I died 30 seconds later from blood loss. True story.
@@AceRanger20actually, it’s happened to me 3 times last week
I would unironically watch a movie about route setters driven to their limit and holding the climbers hostage by making them climb something hard they set, great movie idea
The twist is they break the beta.
Never seen any of these films, yet I am terrified of doing ant rock climbing or mountianeering...
Probably because of news reports and friend's serious injuries...😮
i can imagine a japanese or korean indie movie trilogy about this: SendOrDie, SendOrDie 2tiny2crimp, SendOrDie III dragon dyno... it would have over the top gore and CGI so crap it becomes great and it would become a cult classic
i also would watch this movie
PewDiePie made a bouldering video. It’s all come full circle.
Now it’s your turn to move to Japan and have a kid.
He already has part 2 fown
It's come full boulder. Or giant pebble.
You know the bit in the movie where the guy falls to his death? That's a V2 in my gym
Dude, you are ridiculously funny!
And you had me with "this Alex handhold guy free soloing mount everest" ROFL
I m still fucking rolling on the ground while writting this because of that joke
"Alex Handhold" is a years old joke, he's just repeating old-ass memes that others came up with.
@@danielwesterlund1905 Oh, I didn't know. But the main point was Mount Everest anyway :)
I'm in the background of that Love Hard scene! It was shot in the gym I worked at, all the staff were asked if they wanted to work as background actors.
Funny thing is the climbing displayed in the film and on set was not at all how you would normally climb in a gym. There's a part of the scene where the main girl gets dropped from the top of the wall 40ft to the mats and then just sticks the landing like she didn't fall 4 stories 😅
Jakob Schubert breaking a hold and barely holding on during FA of project BIG > some crappy gear failure. Hollywood, learn your lesson goddamnit
One of maybe two creators on YT where i don't skip the sponsored segment
Me watching this: but what about Princess Diaries?
Climbing stuff: shows the scene from Princess Diaries
We NEED "Requiem for a Dyno"!!!!
8:25 "Thats that one with Alex HandHold guy free solo mount Everest" LMAO
I insightyolod mt Everest flash style and got the speed record too.
The route setters did it! It all makes sense now!
Who else did you expect? Your first hint should have been when they started using dual tex as foot holds... and not the textured side!
They just needed new ways to realize harder routes.
Extemism is what makes climbing different it's like watching a biker doing an insane jump, it will make people more interested in the sport they wont start free sloing but it is the initial intigue which grabs people
Thank you my lord for the formidible entertainment you provide with each and every audio-visual youtube video :)
How is free-solo NOT rock climbing? they are literally climbing a rock in the most pure form..
Alex handhold 😂
Yeah, the guy that soloed Mount Everest! 😂
I remember thinking that Black Diamond should have sued the producers of Cliffhanger for showing their Bod harness buckle failing under body weight. Also Stallone had a literal bolt gun. Bang, the bolt's in with a hanger.
Eiger Sanction was pretty well done. The accident where only Clint survives was based on the uber-iconic 1936 climbing disaster on the Nordwand (north face of the Eiger), when the party of four young Germans all perished trying to retreat in severe weather. That was when the face earned its nickname, the "Mordwand" (wall of death). The attempt to rescue the final survivor, from Wikipedia:
" In the morning, the three guides returned, traversing the face again from a hole near the Eigerwand Station despite avalanche-prone conditions. Toni Kurz was still alive but almost helpless. After four nights exposed to the elements, one of his hands and his arm was completely frozen. Kurz hauled himself back to the mountain face after cutting loose Angerer below him. The guides were not able to pass an unclimbable overhang that separated them from Kurz, but they managed to get a rope long enough to reach Kurz by tying two ropes together. While abseiling, however, Kurz could not get the knot that joined the two ropes to pass through his carabiner. He tried for hours to reach his rescuers, who were just a few metres below him, desperately trying to move himself past the knot, but in vain. He then began to lose consciousness. One of the guides, climbing on another's shoulders, was able to touch the tip of Kurz's crampons with the head of his ice-axe but could not reach higher.[4] Faced with the futility of his situation, he famously said only "Ich kann nicht mehr" ("I can't [go on] anymore") and then died."
Probably also worth noting that one of the crew on The Eiger Sanction, a climber and cameraman named David Knowles, died during the filming. It was from the usual thing that kills people on the Eiger Nordwand: a rock falling a very long way and hitting someone.
That wall is now fairly safe to climb, as I understand it, because people start very early (the middle of the night, generally) and plan to be off the wall before the melting ice starts bombarding the slopes with debris.
All that said, mountaineering is a very different sport than rock climbing. They share some skills, but then so do running a 60m sprint and playing soccer.
honestly dude, I don't even climb anymore but you're my favourite content creator. Would literally listen to you rant about a sock for an hour.
i love your humor, great video! slightly surprised that when describing the 6 different type of climbing you didn't use 6 clip of magnus for extra meme points LOL
3:36 I literally almost choked on my food laughing at Magnus going to the gym to "jump up and down with a ball above his head" 😂 it might be the funniest thing I have seen all day
You cannot die in that pants!
Dude i would watch that movie about the V10 bomb
How did he know I’m not wearing pants
Everyone's been too embarrassed to say anything but your webcam has been on this whole time.
When I find your content really funny, it‘s your „commercials“ that are HILARIOUS!! 😂😂Men. You‘re a funny guy if you don‘t already know that!
Y'know, another thing movies portray inaccurately is driving cars. They're always getting in car chases, going off jumps, having cars explode, etc.! But I've driven a fair amount & I can honestly say that kind of stuff hardly ever comes up IRL..
And movies depict most Englishmen as ruthless and cunning villains. But I’ve lived in England all my life and hardly anyone is a ruthless and cunning villain.
Yes! I am a climbing fan and Motorsport fan here. Obviously F1 was an extremely dangerous sport in the past but it’s a lot safer since then. I mean a driver hasn’t died since 2015
Alex Handhold 😭😂
This dude always cracks me up. Good shit. 😂
I love every ad you do
Honestly, after a year of bouldering i've had less injuries than after one semester of handball or field hockey. And grand total of zero times have i gone back home covered in bandages with a bleeding scalp, so definitely better outcomes than football (the one where you actually kick the ball).
Another classic and entertaining take! thx
Before WWII there were three to five thousand climbers in the US; with thirty to fifty deaths a year; now there are three to five million people who go climbing each year; with the same number of deaths. So as you said; much safer.
Yup. Try telling people that rock climbing is statistically safer than driving, and they think you're taking the piss.
Stallone was the bomb in cliffhanger yo..great video!
I always wished that we'd made a film about the construction of the NROCs via ferrata in west virginia in 2002. I wanted to call it 'The Lord of the Rungs'. Budump-bump!
For a great perspective on free soloing, watch Magnus's video from a free solo of the 200+ meter Armatron wall at Red Rocks, NV, with 'the' Alex Hannold, who appeared to sandbag Magnus into it. The pro sport climber Magnus was clearly gripped at times, while Alex casually filmed him with a big camera while balanced on narrow ledges. The desert-varnished RR sandstone is beautiful to see.
At one point Magnus says something about what if he fainted and fell off. Hannold points out that it's the same behind the wheel, etc. But climbers take that kind of risk constantly, 'scrambling' on 3rd class terrain (using the hands but unroped) over drop-offs on approach and descent, and most elite climbers are as comfortable soloing short sections of easy 5th-class terrain as a newby is on the approach trail. Hannold is a mutant, but I think it's all relative.
3:41 that's Cimb Cincy in cincinatti. Did a USAC comp there a few months back and got completely fucked up on that orange route lol. also that black boulder was in the MYB round and apparently only one or two people topped it so hats off to mr. Climbing Stuff for making that move
I actually think a movie about gym climbers could be very good. It would focus on the atmosphere, camaraderie, friendlyness, why people go there... It could be fkn good. Just look at climbing channels on youtube. They aint full of actions and many of them arent the very elite climbers even - still they get good numbers because people are just interested in that world.
Thing is, I do think it depends on the kind of climbing you're doing and what is interesting to watch. Cutting edge alpinism and big wall climbing (even for established/easier routes) is inherently very dangerous. I think the issue is the hyper focus on subjective hazards (like free soloing or poor/infrequent gear placement that fails) as opposed to objective hazards like rock fall, avalanches etc... If you've done a lot of expedition level climbing or alpinism these things happen all the time and are constant hazards. I was just ski-touring and climbing in the alps a few weeks ago and while touring on easy terrain was almost killed by a large rock fall, luckily it didn't trigger an avalanche as well - but it narrowly missed me. Another example, climbing in Bolivia I hiked to high camp at 17,000 ft. We wake up to climb and I realize I have SEVERE food poisoning. We sleep a few more hours, pack our things up, and have to hike treacherous terrain, at high altitude, while sick and with almost no chance of rescue if there is a fall or other injury. Those two examples are also common. My point being that big alpine climbing is actually very dangerous and showing those kinds of hazards would be far more interesting than people being blown up by nitroglycerin...
I’m working on a cool outdoor dyno, will be in the Reddit at some point.
Love watching your videos !! Keep up the work :D
Fall (2022) is an alright movie about falling I mean climbing. 😆
OMG, new hilarity high bar set. Jayzus, you are on fire, man.
I like how you discuss important topics in a funny way, it's quite creative
Damn. Rugne are so lucky to get sponsored by some one as influential in this sport as "climbing stuff".
Cool video. One example that often surprises non-climbers is that skiing and snowboarding are generally more dangerous activities than climbing. But obviously, saying you’re taking the family skiing isn’t seen as some hardcore thing the way taking your family out to the crag sometimes is.
Taking the family to sushi train is pretty extreme too. Always a gamble.
I love your videos so much😂
From a research arcticle "Evaluation of Injury and Fatality Risk in Rock and Ice Climbing" from 2010: "Overall, climbing sports had a lower injury incidence and severity score than many popular sports, including basketball, sailing or soccer; indoor climbing ranked the lowest in terms of injuries of all sports assessed."
More movie breakdowns!!
The Thanos moment was unexpected xD
Did you watch “Iwa-Kakeru! -Sport Climbing Girls”? Pretty solid anime that covers rock climbing in a sports like story.
He does it again, solid gold!!
Your channel feels like it would have been massive if you were around in 2013. Your attitude is that of old legends. Good stuff.
Were you at North Mass Boulder in one of those clips
Damn I love your video
They are just perfect
Rock climbing as a hobby was also portrayed in the Big Bang Theory a few years back !
According to Game of Thrones attending weddings is more dangerous than climbing.
The real football, what the one where it spends 90% of the time in their hands? MURICA ;) JK loved the vid, Alex Handhold gag killed me :D
Comp climbing movie would be crazy
The safe free soloing is outdoor bouldering or deep water solo climbing. But I think all type of climbing is interesting.
Dear Sir, I appreciate your humor. Sincerely, Me
His Dark Materials is not a movie (actually, there might have been a movie? I can't remember, and don't care), but a famous (and well written) series of books, which references rock climbing, during which nobody dies! I suspect the author had experience climbing though, because he makes such casual reference of Friends and other niche climbing terms that I think it just went over people's heads anyway.
There are TONS of movies about climbing where no one dies: but those are movies made _for climbers_ (e.g., Reel Rock). The problem arises when you make movies for non-climbers. I mean, imagine a movie about Nascar made for the general public... wonder what's gonna happen?
Free Solo did get me watching random actual rock climbing content lol, so that’s cool. Dude seems nuts
I'm not a climber, once I get above about 10 feet I'm done, even indoor walls are terrifying
"football, the real one" unsuscribed, lol
I was looking for this comment
At least the opening of "Cliffhanger" begat the great parody in "Ace Ventura, Pet Detective." The pathetic misrepresentation of climbing goes much farther back, into the adaptations of James Ramsey Ullman novels, from the Nazi vanquishing in the 1950 "White Tower," to the fictional Matterhorn first ascent in "Banner in the Sky," Disney 1954. Too often, actual top tier climbers of their day did the bulk of the actual climbing and stunt work, including the gawd-awful "Eiger Sanction," and "Cliffhanger," with Wolfgang Gullich and Ron Kauk selling their souls, WG tragically dying on the drive home from the final filming. "Vertical Limit" was also execrable.The common denominator in all was the compulsion to exaggerate beyond physics, the capabilities of climbers and even their equipment.
Free Solo was a unique outlier, in that it focused on one special talent, with an incredible goal, and fully represented his actual deed without need for manufactured melodrama. I have seen far too many clueless gumbies new to climbing, attracted by TH-cam videos, but very few newcomers enticed by Alex Honnold's climbs; and the legions of free soloists are mostly greatly relieved that Alex did what many posers talked about, because now no one else has to risk their lives on such a sobering, daunting, path.
Simply put, very few ambitious climbers facing the level of difficulty Alex soloed, if set on the ground, could solo high enough to hurt themselves falling off.
Did even mention valley Uprising
I think the issue is that it's hard to portray rock climbing in a compelling way to the average viewer because there isn't much of a team aspect to it, so that can't be a source of drama. Also there's no points to give someone with limited knowledge a frame of reference for how well the climber is performing. The only way to really make it compelling or exciting to an average viewer is to make it about danger. If someone almost slips and falls to their death but then manages to barely save themselves, that's a lot more exciting than someone getting a cramp and having to contemplate if they can make it to the top or if they'll have to repel back down.
At the end of the day, making movies is about getting butts in the seat, and writers/directors have to make the movies that sell to the widest possible audience.
12:00 That would be dumb, yes. But couldn't you make a movie about indoor bouldering the same way there's movies about football; there is no thread of death there. Just a movie about someone training to be the best climber they can and winning the big comp or whatever.
Give a try to the animated movie "Summit of The Gods" it's not a rock climbing movie, it's an alpine mountaineering movie, but it's the best climbing I've ever seen. Surprise alert though, someone still dies.
i would watch that movie for sure
"it's the most pure form of climbing" JB
A decent documentary about real rock climbing is “Jäger des Augenblicks - Ein Abenteuer am Mount Roraima”. It of course uses narrative to dramatise things but the climbing shown is legit.
In Vertical Limit they also placing gear while top roping 🤔. They did a really bad job on "researching" climbing for this movie (or they just did not care).
The actors actually called them out on this; like why don't I have a helmet; why don't I have beard stubble if I am fighting for my life for several days on a mountain?
The answer basically was then the audience can't see your good looks as readily.
All these climbing movies and you don't even mention the greatest climbing movie of ALL TIME?! K2: The Ultimate High. Filmed on actual mountains in Pakistan and British Columbia, with the best opening rock climbing scene ever put to film. How does this not get a mention?
Alex hand hold guy haha
What about the climbing in catch that kid, I watched that so much in my childhood
Literally procrastinating my research paper I’m writing right now about the mediatization of current times showing this incorrect depiction of climbing safety
"Magnus Midtbø himself climbs in these pants"........ Magnus OWNS and PRODUCES Rungne. He invented Rungne. He IS Rugne....
"Just let her go" :)))
There are some climbing scenes in les rivières pourpres, and as far as i remember nobody dies while climbing there? However the kill count in total is still quite high lol, good movie imo
I watched this video, tried rock climbing, and then died after my gear failed. Thanks a lot.
I would add that into the 1970s; one in ten who went to the greater ranges died each year.
Can confirm, currently wearing the highballer pants and I have yet to die.
Have you seen Touching the Void, which is a semi-documentary alpine climbing film. No one dies
Know what’s hilarious? I know you’re joking, but we were a vertical limit family, and as a kid that’s where I learned about nitro glycerin. I legit thought “how on earth do I stay away from this stuff forever?”
So did he send that V10?
he's climbing a rock, looks like rock climbing to me.
Vertical limit is an absolute classic
for a second i thought you meant the REAL football 😅
In free solo, Alex Honnold mentioned that he doesn’t have fear because of something up with his brain, so free soloing isn’t scary for him.
Fun fact I never saw the ending of Cliffhanger
For context, I was a kid when the movie showed on TV, it ran late and my parents had a rule where I had to go to bed by exactly ten p.m, so it didn’t matter that the movie was almost over, that’s the rule, no exceptions
Was hoping to see a review of the old Batman series climbing scenes here.
sheldon went indoor climbing in big bang theory
"there's a bomb on top of the slab?"
"BETTER CALL ANNA HAZELNUT!!"
"slabby"
This channel isn't called Ninja Warrior Stuff?
best climbing channel hands down. please don't burn out!
I would watch that movie. It's like Die Hard in a climbing gym. Climb Hard.
The Eiger Sanction second half disaster was based on the 1936 Eiger's North Face disaster if I recall correctly. Unlike Eastwood eventually cutting himself free the real story had Toni Kurz die after many attempts to cut himself down because his finger and hands were too frost bitten to cut his own rope, The BBC has a great documentary on climbing the Eiger North Face and goes into the 1936 disaster, then if you watch the Eiger Sanction it is almost identical what goes wrong during the 1936 climb.